1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: What's going on, Dirty Birds. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Tory maclaney here joined by Omni s Upon and Tarren 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: Walk and we are about to break down one of 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: the biggest games for the Falcons to date, heading up 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: to Washington, d C. 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Or Maryland technically Maryland. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that general area of the country Maryland received no excitement. 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: There, Sorry Maryland, Maryland. I feel like it should be 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: in DC. 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Like I know that we're out in Flowery Branch right now, 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: but we do, like the Falcons do play in Atlanta. Say, 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: add the same qualm with Metlafe Stadium that's actually in 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: like Rutherford, New Jersey, and they're like the New York 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: Jets and the New York Giants. 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a qualm I have. I do have a 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: little bit of a problem with that. It's not like 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: they're saying I don't know I have mine. Immediately went 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: to like the Milwaukee Packers. Just spend time with my family. 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: We are recording this the day after Christmas. 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Also, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to all 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: the people out there, all of our fantastic listeners. We 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: love you guys so much, even when you maybe don't 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: love us all that much. And that's okay, but I 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: wanted to start off this podcast with a little bit 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: of fun because I was having this discussion with my 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: family while I was home for Christmas yesterday, and we 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: were talking about all of the gifts that quarterbacks give 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: their offensive linemen during this time. And just as an example, 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: I looked this up. Patrick Mahomes gave his offensive line 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: rollics watches, Joe Burrow Samurai swords that is Wild Wild, 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: and then Russell Wilson a ten thousand dollars Airbnb gift 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: card that can be used anywhere around the world. 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: So, and I know, Justin Herbert was. 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Taking a lot of heat on Twitter and ex and 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: social media because he got them. My friend Chris Ram, 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: who used to work with us here at a lantinfalcons 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: dot com but he's now with ESPN covering the Chargers, 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: he posted this video about Justin Herbert had gotten him 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: is offensive line luggage, and everybody was like calling him 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 2: cheap because he got him luggage. But I'm like, those 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: specific pieces of luggage were every bit of probably three 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: And so useful. 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: Right, you're gonna use that like you're gonna use that 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: all the time, not to say you're not gonna use 46 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: the rule, but truly, how often are you gonna use 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: the Samurai sword unless you're Kayla McGary and you get 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: married with a broad. 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Sword like I don't, I wouldn't even know where. 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 3: But then how often that's a wedding right? 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: One time? 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: Ideally? Yeah? 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Now, though I do know if you've listened to Falcons 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: and Focused podcast, one of my favorite episodes was with 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Kayla McGary and he did say that he walks his 56 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: dog with the broad sword on his back, so maybe 57 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: he gets more used than we think and across the 58 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: other side of the so don't you imagine dog with 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: the sword specifically? But that brings me to the question 60 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: if you're a quarterback in this league making the money 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: that these guys make, and let's just say that the 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: right that is in and of itself, I'm fine with. 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: But if you were gonna give a gift to the 64 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: men who put. 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: Their lives on the line to protect you, not the 66 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: same but they do, what would you get them? 67 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 3: Do you have an immediate answer? Because I have too. 68 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: Mine's like very personal and kind of lame, and I 69 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: would a real quarterback would never have the time for this. 70 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: But I'm like, I also can't think in terms of 71 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: that much money, Like I don't know, really, I don't 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: know what that probably like, I don't know cars or 73 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: something like that would be. 74 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 2: Didn't brock Party give his offensive line cars. I think 75 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: he got them full on trucks. 76 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Perhaps. I feel like. 77 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: That's like, that's like an easy thing to think of 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: ms of that money. But like for me, I think 79 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: like giving like vintage sports gear of like their like 80 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: childhood team, whether that's college or NFL or NBA or. 81 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: Something like that. 82 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: That's a very specific thing to me, but like going 83 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: deep into it, like because that stuff can get really expensive. Sure, 84 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: so then that's where some of that money could come in. 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: But like, you know, something memorabilia, something that like is 86 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: very dear to them, that is very you because you do. 87 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: Love a good thrift. 88 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: Fine. 89 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Oh, and I feel like this is right in line. 90 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: I think someone did do and I don't know, I 91 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: don't want to say exactly who it is. 92 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: I think it was one of the LA teams. 93 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: But someone got every person in the locker room their 94 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: high school jersey. That's which I saw is so sweet. 95 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: But in the same vein, I feel like you and 96 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: whoever this person was. 97 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: It's gonna kill me that I can't remember who it was, 98 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: But y'all got it, Tarin, Okay, well would you. 99 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: I can tell you've been thinking about this. 100 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: So I have two ideas. One was getting them all 101 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: like a really nice Alexa, but then programming it so 102 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: it speaks only in my voice. 103 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: Okay, if you're Patrick Mahomes, I feel like that is 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: really a tough imagine, like waking up in the morning, Alexa, 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: what time is it and it's me? 106 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Or if it's like you're or. 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 3: Just programming into anything. I don't think it could actually 108 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: be in my voice. That sounds like that's where the 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: money would come in, right, Yeah, And just making it 110 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: like an Australian accent or something. You can do that anyway, 111 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: I know, but making it program in it so they 112 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: can't turn it off like something that seems. 113 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: Like more of a trick than it does. A gift. 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: An alarm at six am every day, I mean, they're 115 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: probably already awake. 116 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: This seems like. 117 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 5: Way more of a prank than it does like a 118 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 5: kind gesture for all the work offensive, that's true. I 119 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: feel like both of Girl's answers were very answers to 120 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 5: you guys. 121 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: Specifically, my other was a roomba. 122 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 4: Just ai apply. 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: Terren's like, I will send someone to your house and 124 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: have it all robot. 125 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: Just sounds so I wish I had a rumba. 126 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: Terren's actually just putting this out in the world to 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: let people know she would like a room. 128 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: But I gave my dad an Alexa one year, and 129 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: let me tell you, is the gift that keeps on giving. Yeah, 130 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: and now they're everywhere. Oh, I'm sure every room has 131 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: a device. Yea, the camper has a device. 132 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: There you go. 133 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, you need to give something again. You do 134 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: know firsthand how important it is and I don't even 135 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: have one, right. 136 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 137 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: Speaking of important things, the Falcons have a very important 138 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: game coming up this weekend, traveling up to Maryland Maryland 139 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: Bass the Washington Commanders at eight twenty pm on Sunday night. 140 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: This game got the next Sunday Night football should be 141 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: a lot of fun and there are so many implications 142 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: about this game, and right off the top, I think 143 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: we should this is where we should start ye playoffs 144 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: in the potential of being at the top of the division. 145 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: As a lot of people know and if you've been 146 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: living under a rock for a long time, then maybe 147 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: you don't know this. But a couple of days ago, 148 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost to the Dallas Cowboys, essentially putting, 149 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: well not essentially, putting their record right back at eight 150 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: and seven along with the Falcons. The Falcons hold the 151 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: tiebreaker over Tampa Bay because of the two wins they 152 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: had over that over the Bucks in October, So essentially, mathematically, 153 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: as long as the Falcons win as many games as 154 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay over the next two weeks of the season, 155 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: they could clinch the NFC South. 156 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: The problem with that, though, is you. 157 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: Face a Washington Commander's team that is playing really good 158 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: football and playing very clutch football. You just saw what 159 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: they did to the Philadelphia Eagles this past week. It's 160 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: a team that's not only I think on the rise. 161 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: I think they're very well coached. Dan Quinn is the 162 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: coach of the Washington Commanders right now. Raheem Morris someone 163 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: they I mean, they coach together. I've covered them both 164 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: together on the same staff not too long ago. So 165 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see how this game goes. But ultimately, 166 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: and I think I can say this and not have 167 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: any qualms about it. This is a must wing game 168 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: for Atlanta. The Falcons have Washington and then they'll end 169 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: the season against the Panthers. Meanwhile, the Bucks have the 170 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: Panthers this week and then the Saints to close out 171 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: their season. There are so many things that can happen 172 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: over the next two weeks, but ultimately, the Falcons put 173 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: themselves in. 174 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: The best position. If they beat the Command that would 175 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: be a huge win. 176 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: So I kind of want to start off just by, 177 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: you know, let's start off with a little bit of 178 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: hope on what would it mean to this team, to 179 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: this organization to go up to Washington or Maryland and. 180 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Get a win. 181 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: Would mean this team is speaking at the right time, 182 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: even with a starting quarterback that is in a second start, 183 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: Like the defense has been rolling, special teams has come 184 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: through majority of the season. Like when you are able 185 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: to put those three faces of the ball together in 186 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: week seventeen against a team like this on Sunday night, 187 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: like it really tells you that, Like they're ready for playoffs, 188 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: and they'll put themselves in the best position to do 189 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: that because right now they hold their destiny. So as 190 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: long as you keep winning you don't have to worry 191 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: about what Tampa Bay does because you already beat them twice. 192 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 4: You hold that tiebreaker, And I mean, it's gonna be 193 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: a huge game. Like I was talking to Jake Matthews 194 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: about it, who's, you know, the longest tenured Falcon, and 195 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: he said, this feels like the closest thing to a 196 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: playoff game that we've had since twenty seventeen. And there's 197 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: going to be a lot that's asked of Mike and 198 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: the offensive line, and they're they're up for the challenge, 199 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: they're ready for it because they want to play meaningful football. 200 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 201 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: I think that's really good to hear too, because something 202 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: that I was saying, and I can't remember who I 203 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: was talking to, it may have honestly even been my dad. 204 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: But going back to your point about what Jake was 205 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: saying about, you know, we haven't kind of been in 206 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: this moment since twenty seventeen, and a lot of that 207 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: is because the Falcons have, for lack of a better term, 208 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: shot themselves in the foot a lot. And I think 209 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: that when I look back over the last three four 210 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: years of covering this team, I actually think that they've 211 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: been in a lot of moments where they're in this 212 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: like do or die type of game and moment, and 213 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: I think, looking back, and this has been one of 214 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: my biggest qualms with the Falcons of late, is that 215 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: they haven't arisen to the point of surpassing these moments 216 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: with wins and coming out on top. I think there 217 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: have been so many moments where they have been in 218 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: these games that essentially changed their fate. Once the regular 219 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: season is over and they've gone and laid an egg 220 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: in Tampa or Carolina or wherever and not amounted to 221 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: what you assumed they could and what you had, you 222 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: felt like they had the potential to be. I think 223 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: something that a lot of fans tweet at me, and 224 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: I'm sure y'all get this too, is this idea of 225 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: the same old Falcons like the same old Falcons, and 226 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: it's become this like huge narrative since they lost the 227 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, it's the same old Falcons can't win the 228 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: big games. If you go up to Washington, beat the 229 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: Commanders and essentially put yourself in the position to feel 230 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: really really good about making a postseason against this Commander's 231 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: team specifically, that's kind of squashing that narrative. To me 232 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: of this is not the same old Falcons. This is 233 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: a different team entirely. It's a different mindset entirely, and 234 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: they're not going to fall into the same habits of 235 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: what teams in the past, especially in the last few years, 236 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: have been. So with that, like, that's what I think 237 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: the fans should hope for. But hope only takes you 238 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: so far, and you have to show up and you 239 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: have to perform, and you have to win this game, 240 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: no asifts or buts about it. So Tarn, I'm curious 241 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: just as you're looking at this as ONMNA one part 242 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: one side of the coin, which was the hope field side. 243 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: And I hate to put you on the spot like this, 244 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: but realistic, this is a tough team that they're gonna 245 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: face this coming Sunday night in front of a national audience, 246 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: with a quarterback who is only his second start. There 247 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: are a lot of variables that go into this matchup, 248 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: like whether, yeah, it could be pouring down rain, who knows. 249 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,239 Speaker 2: But I'm really curious what would it mean for the Falcons, 250 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: And not just like they're twenty twenty four like postseason hopes, 251 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: but what would it mean for the Falcons to go 252 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: up and lose this game knowing that they have everything 253 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: in their hands right now. 254 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a tough one because they do 255 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: keep saying they put themselves in this position. The power 256 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: is back in their hands, but just barely kind of thing, right, 257 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: And they knew this schedule when they got into this 258 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 3: position where the Bucks have I don't want to say 259 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: it an easy slate, but an easy you don't but 260 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 3: you don't know, Like, yeah, you never know what can happen, 261 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: especially in a division game, for sure, but the Panthers 262 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: and Saints are arguably easier teams to go up against 263 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: then the Commanders for all the reasons you have listed 264 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: and why they're doing so well right now. And so 265 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: for the Falcons, this is a must win, and I 266 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: think like it's if they win this it kind of 267 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 3: like re like reinfer reaffirms what they've been saying all 268 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: season long, and if not, well, Samuel Falcons, right, you 269 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like it goes back to the narrative. 270 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: You can kill it. You can kill that narrative and 271 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: all the people online, well, not necessarily they're going to 272 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: keep on chatting, of course, but it does end that 273 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: like Oh, here we go again. Oh did it again? 274 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: Just with the Falcons losing it too late? Right, like 275 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: you were peaking but you didn't do it peak too soon. 276 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: YadA YadA, ah. Like there's a hundred different ways you 277 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: can phreese it. But I think winning silences all of 278 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: that because I have the numbers. Okay, give it to us, 279 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: the Falcons right now, because I use the New York 280 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: Times simulator for reference. 281 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I love that thing. Yeah, it's fantastic. 282 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: Get a little nerdy right now. They have a forty 283 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: eight percent chance to make the playoffs as things stand. 284 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: If they win on Sunday, that goes up to eighty 285 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: five percent. Yeah, that's a pretty number. That's a pretty number. 286 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: They lose on Sunday, that goes down to thirty percent. 287 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 3: She's not passing, is indeed? Is it failing? Map? 288 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 289 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they fail? Okay, So if the Falcons and Buccaneers lose, though, 290 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,239 Speaker 3: the Falcon's chances are eighty one percent. 291 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: Right, But then you're kind of hoping, you're hoping the Yeah. 292 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's kind of how I felt like going 293 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: into this path. 294 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: Last week the Cowboys game, the Cowboys crazy crazy game. 295 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: Amazing, that was that was also what I think a 296 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: lot of people are, like, this is what you hope 297 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: like playoff football is. 298 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: I was staying up super late to watch that game, 299 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: and I was I was on a flight like, yeah, 300 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: well legit. 301 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: And I think that it's really interesting because at that 302 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: point in time, you are, if you're the Falcons, you 303 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: are kind of like just hoping that you get something. 304 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: You hope that something else elsewhere falls your way, another 305 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: domino falls somewhere else in order to help you out. 306 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: And I get that that's the league. But I also. 307 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: Understand that this team went on a losing streak where 308 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: they lost four of five games. 309 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: In a month and a couple of weeks time, and. 310 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: That's where they lost a lot of. 311 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: Power, Yeah, and a lot of momentum coming out of October. 312 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: And I know, like we can talk all day long 313 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: about the quarterback situation and kind of the inconsistencies, but 314 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: to your point. 315 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: Like, the fact of the matter is they lost, right. 316 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: And the odds are in your favor if you win. 317 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: Is that simple? Yeah, we don't need to overcomplicate this. 318 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: And had they not put themselves in that sticky situation, 319 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: this next one is the biggest issue. The Falcons lose 320 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: and the Buccaneers win, their chances dropped to sixteen percent. 321 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: Right, then you're just hoping, by some hope that the 322 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Saints can and. 323 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, all Falcons fans are Saints fans. 324 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: Right, which is crazy in and of itself, but that's 325 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: kind of the nature of beast so relying too much 326 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: on another team's downfall, right for their own success. 327 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: I mean, they're not They're not saying that whatsoever. 328 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers are we We can say that, and 329 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: the statistics can say that, and the numbers can say 330 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: that they're there if you ask them. 331 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: They're fall only on the Commanders and. 332 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: Right rightly so, because you got to get past this 333 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: game in order to even have an opportunity, exactly, but it's. 334 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: Always better when you were able to control your own fate. 335 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: You can do that by winning. 336 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 337 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right. So moving right along, I made 338 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this because I think it's acts. It's 339 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: very very funny to me that if we go back 340 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: two weeks ago, Falcons are coming off of a win 341 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: over the Raiders, and it was when everybody found out 342 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: that the Falcons and Commander's game got flexed to Sunday 343 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: Night Football. At that time, the Falcons are coming off 344 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: of a game that even though they won, no one 345 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: felt like they won. And it was a really like time, 346 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: especially with the fan base because I remember seeing online 347 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: and I do love this fan base because one they're hilarious. 348 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: They are they're incredibly jaded, creativity, so many players and 349 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: it's so they're they're great because they let they wear 350 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: their emotions on their sleeve. 351 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: And I love it and I think it's so funny. 352 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: But I was I was watching kind of all of 353 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: the responses to the flex come in, and it was 354 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: basically just like like it was so many so many 355 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: people being like, oh no, like another prime time game 356 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: because the Raiders game was on Monday Night Football. 357 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: And I remember a lot of people were kind of 358 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,359 Speaker 1: down bad about. 359 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: The game being flexed to begin with. But then they 360 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: make the move to Michael Pennocks and then it completely 361 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: changes the way that people looked at this game because 362 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: it's Michael Pennix versus Jayden Daniels and it's kind of 363 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: a marquee matchup of what this draft class was. And 364 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's very indicative that the next 365 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: couple of minutes, I'm only going to be asking y'all 366 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: quarterback questions because I think that is the story of 367 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: the game. 368 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Story of the draft, story of the game, everything exactly. 369 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: Sea. 370 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you can't talk about this game without talking 371 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: about Michael Pennocks and Jane Daniels. So let's start off 372 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: talking a little bit about Mike. Michael Pennocks. We've had 373 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: some time to kind of sit with his first start, 374 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: and I know, I say I can speak for myself 375 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: having gone back and watched the twenty two a couple 376 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: of times and kind of dissected his role in the win. 377 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: And I wrote this in my notebook and I fully 378 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: stand behind it that I thought the performance live while 379 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: I was watching it from the press box and Mercedes 380 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: Been Stadium, I thought it was a good performance. I 381 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: thought it was a solid performance, thought it was a 382 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: clean performance. Watching the all twenty two though, it was 383 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: better than I thought it was. 384 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: And so I'm kind of. 385 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: Curious y'all's perspective, as y'all have set with the game 386 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 2: as well, as you're kind of looking at what this 387 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: commander's defense presents and what the problem areas are. What 388 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: do you think about what Michael Pennix could get in 389 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: his second start, daring you want to go first? 390 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: Sure, I the question you post to us in like 391 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: the outline is like what do the Falcons need from him? 392 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: And it's to do the same thing, maybe throw a 393 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: touchdown pass, I guess, but hey, but Jon Robinson's running 394 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: around in exactly. But it's just to keep playing cleanly 395 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: and efficiently because I mean they won, I mean that's 396 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: what works. It worked out well, and you could see 397 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: the offense improving as the game went along. I think 398 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: that was my favorite thing about last week's game is 399 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: you could see Michael growing in real time. And so 400 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: I'm curious now against a more difficult team, a stronger defense, 401 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: how that's going to happen, and if it's gonna increase 402 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: that need to improve really quickly, or if he's still 403 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: gonna stay steady EDI. And what's been fun hearing in 404 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: the aftermath of the first game is that he was 405 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: the exact same guy that we saw in that press conference, 406 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: not rattled at all. And what I enjoy too is 407 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: hearing how many players want success for him, like Jean 408 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: Robinson and Drake London are like fighting to see who 409 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: gets the first passing touchdown, and you like to see 410 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: that because that means the starters who he wasn't necessarily 411 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 3: working with originally are already on board with him and 412 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: they're supporting him, and they're wanting to be successful for him, 413 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: not that they weren't for Kirk Presens, but it's just 414 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: like it's a late season switch, and so to see 415 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: that it just helps progress this idea that this was 416 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: the right decision and even the right time. 417 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: I think it's You bring up such a good point too, 418 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: about the cleanliness of the operation, and that was the 419 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: part of it that I was kind of most surprised 420 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: about was as a rookie. As a rookie and the 421 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: Falcons had no procedural penalties at all in that game, 422 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: and that was shocking to me because you think about 423 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: all of the variables that go into someone at that 424 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: quarterback position getting the play call in, being able to 425 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: spit it out clearly, concisely, quickly, and being able to 426 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: execute it as well. And something that I've talked about 427 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: before about this position that he was in was that 428 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: a big problem for the Falcons over the last month 429 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: of the season prior to Michael Pennock's getting the start 430 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: last week was the fact that I felt like the 431 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: Falcons needed him in that start to just not get 432 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: in the way of the game, ye just to do 433 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: another to keep the chains moving, just not to kind 434 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: of have a mistake free game. And even though he 435 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: had some moments where he did, he looked like a 436 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: rookie quarterback, which is to be expected. As his first start, 437 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: I thought that he limited the mistakes that he made. 438 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: It even when he made a mistake, like even if 439 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: he kind of overshot somebody or threw it out their 440 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: feet or didn't get his feet set, he was still 441 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: making the right decisions as to where he was putting 442 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: the ball in who he was targeting. And I think 443 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: that matters to me when I'm thinking about the longevity 444 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: of someone in this league. So I'm curious to your 445 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: knowledge and as you're kind of looking at what Michael 446 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: Pennix could be in his second start, what do you 447 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: feel like he needs to do as they go up 448 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: to Washington this weekend. 449 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: You know, kind of just more of what you guys said, 450 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: like just play clean, Like the way he was decisive, 451 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: even in like that moment where he almost got sacked, 452 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: but didn't and was able to like somehow hold his 453 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: center of gravity and throw it away where it wasn't 454 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 4: in danger and you know, not getting like a penalty 455 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 4: on that as well, Like just those little things, but 456 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: also like the way it was. It was impressive that 457 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: there was no like you know, penalties or anything of 458 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: that sort. But it was also impressive the amount of 459 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: like creativity they were able to have an offense, which 460 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: I was surprised at. Like there's a stat from next 461 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: Gen Stats, and I think it was they use eighty 462 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: one percent of motion at the snap, which was their 463 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 4: most they had all season, this increase from like twenty 464 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: six percent. So the fact that like he's coming in 465 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: in his first start and is able to play with 466 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 4: guys that he hasn't you know, just don't retire, so 467 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 4: we have a repertoire with like like yeah, like Darnell 468 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: Mooney was like getting reps with his high school QB 469 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: because he was a lefty. Like these are the things 470 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: that they've been trying to do to get acquainted with 471 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 4: each other. So for them to be able to do 472 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: that in the first game, like, I'm very excited to 473 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 4: see what they can do in the second one, and 474 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: I mean it may be rainy. That maybe something he's 475 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: very used to with someone who played in Seattle. 476 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: True, so point, Yeah, it's funny that you mentioned that 477 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: because I remember when we were up in Washington, we 478 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: uh in twenty twenty one, when the Falcons played and 479 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: then turned around and played Seattle a week later, and 480 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: we practiced that week in Washington and it was like 481 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: rainy and cold, and it actually like wasn't It was 482 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: actually beautiful weather the whole entire time. And I remember 483 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: someone asking Marcus Mariota, who played in Oregon. They were like, 484 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: you know, what are you how are you gonna feel 485 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: if it's cold and rainy? And he was like, you 486 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: do realize I've played in the like played a lot 487 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: of years in this right, And same for Michael, Like 488 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: he's kind of to a certain extent not going back home. 489 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: It's a different Washington. But if it is rainy and cold, yeah, 490 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: that plays a factor. 491 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: Just being able to keep the operation clean. Yeah, in 492 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: a in the elements like that, that's all. 493 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: You need from him. 494 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: That's to me, like, you don't need him to be 495 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: this big, flashy like just chunk in the ball downfield. 496 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: I mean if he does that, great cool, The Falcons 497 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: will take it, but you need. The most you need 498 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: out of him is a clean operation and just making 499 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: sure that the Falcons are on track to stay ahead 500 00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: of the chains. 501 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: I feel like I've said this so many times this season, 502 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: where it's like, let's not get cute until you're efficient, 503 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: like inconsistent. Yeah, until you're like consistent with it, stay simple, 504 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: like yeah, don't don't complicate that. Yeah, they're getting too 505 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: what is it ahead of your skis? Yeah, I don't know. 506 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: I've never actually over your skis. 507 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't ski either. 508 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: That. 509 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: No, Unfortunately, these are three people who've never skied the horse. 510 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: There you go, don't put the Yeah, don't put the cart. 511 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 3: Never were attached to cart to a horse either. 512 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: But like the analogies are what they are, you'll get it, Yeah, 513 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: you'll get it. 514 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: So don't do that. I think having to almost start 515 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: over with a rookie is forcing them to do that 516 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: and keep things simple so he can get comfortable and 517 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: figure it out and find his groove and then you 518 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: can start tailoring things more around him and what he's 519 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: good at and build from there. 520 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 521 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: But I also think even in the same vein like 522 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: the Falcons didn't have to like simplify it too much 523 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: when you go back and you look at the game 524 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: plan itself and what they were executing. 525 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Like Zach Robinson was right in the week leading up 526 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: to that, it was going to. 527 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: Look pretty similar outside of a few wrinkles here and 528 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: there to better fit Michael's skill set. 529 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: And I think that ended up happening. 530 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he knows it. He's been studying this offense 531 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: all season, even if he hasn't been the one actually 532 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: taking live rep so that wasn't surprising. 533 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: But it's just like get good first, yeah, right, and 534 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: get consistent and be efficient. So let's move on to 535 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: the other side of the coin and one of the 536 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: NFL's biggest names right now because of what he's done 537 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: in his rookie years, Jaden Daniels. And I think I 538 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: speak for a lot of people when I say that 539 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: he's quarterbacking a Washington offense that is pretty high powered 540 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: and it has the ability to showcase his legs, his mobility, 541 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: his athleticism, but also his arm strength. And you know, 542 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: granted he's made a couple of mistakes here and there, 543 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: but for the most part, he's doing what needs to 544 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 2: be done to put points on the board for this 545 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 2: Commander's team. And I'll be honest using the Eagles game 546 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: as kind of your base point. 547 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: Even if there. 548 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: Was miss cusan missteps by this offense, the Commander's defense 549 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: played well enough at times to kind of minimize the damage. So, 550 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: as you're looking, Taren, I'm gonna start with you, what 551 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: is it about Jaden Daniels that is the most dangerous? 552 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: What about his game is the most dangerous if you're 553 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: the Falcons game planning for him. 554 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: His legs and his arm is obviously what got him drafted, 555 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: but his legs are what's making him unique. Right now, 556 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: the Commanders are the only team in the NFL whose 557 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: quarterback is their leading rusher. And to be fair, Brian 558 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: Robinson Junior has missed three games and he's only like 559 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: twenty eight yard short, So if you had those three games, 560 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: he's probably the leader. 561 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: Right. 562 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: So it's like a caveat like a little astereks. But 563 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: still that's crazy. 564 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 565 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting too that when you look at 566 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: what Jaden Daniels has been able to do. We've talked 567 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: a lot about Michael in his first start, in the 568 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: cleanliness of everything and the fact that Jayden Daniels has 569 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: been able to I think handle everything within his rookie 570 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 2: year has been And also, let's just be honest, the 571 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: games that they've won in the fashion of which they've 572 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: won in to to go back to the Bears, Yeah, 573 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: the Bears like that game again recently against the gas Like, 574 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: he's just a playmakers. He has this like live like 575 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: this's almost like a live nature to him, which I 576 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: realize is probably a weird thing to say. Like you 577 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: always hear about people saying like someone has a live arm. 578 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: I always think that Michael Pennix has a live arm. 579 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 2: It's like so vicious in the way that he can 580 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: get the ball into his playmaker's hands. But with Jadan 581 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: Daniels specifically, he is somebody who is a dual threat 582 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: quarterback and there is no doubt about it because to 583 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: your point, just the stats alone, but also his feels okay. 584 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: So when his feel for the game is just I 585 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: think he's playing a little bit beyond his years for sure. 586 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: And I think the Falcons when you don't have Troy 587 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: Anderson out there at middle linebacker, a speedy quarterback that 588 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: has the ability to get outside the tackles and to 589 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: move the ball downfield, not just to scramble, but to 590 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: actively move it ten twelve fifteen yards is very tough 591 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: on this defense. And so Taran are what are kind 592 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: of some stats that stick out. 593 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 3: So overall he has one hundred and twenty eight carries 594 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: for seven hundred and thirty seven yards rushing and six touchdowns. 595 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 3: He's averaging five point eight yards per carry. So when 596 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: you say he's out there and picking up yardages beyond 597 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: just scrambling, he is. And then he's averaging forty nine 598 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: point one yards per game on the ground in general, 599 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: but then on the like on a strong suit three 600 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 3: hundred one. Has completed three hundred one of his four 601 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: hundred thirty two passes, which for perspective is sixty nine 602 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: point seven percent, So. 603 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: Right in line I think with league average, yep, yep. 604 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: And for three three hundred three yards, two touchdowns and 605 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: only eight interceptions. Yeah, again, he's taking care of the 606 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: ball he touched on the interception ratio is crazy. 607 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: Right, And that's the thing is like this is somebody 608 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: who we're talking about in the context of being Rookie 609 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: of the Year, Like we're talking about in the context 610 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: of what he's doing in his rookie year is almost 611 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: unlike I think a lot of things that we've seen 612 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: in the fact that the Commanders has been a team 613 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: that I think a lot of people push to the 614 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: side going into twenty twenty four. You can't do that 615 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: because of what he's been able to do, and give 616 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: credit to the coaching staff to put putting him in 617 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: the best situations to allow himself to succeed. But speaking 618 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: of the coaching staff, something that I was listening to 619 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: today was Joewett Junior was talking about how he was 620 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: actually talking about Michael Pennocks and how Michael Penick was 621 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: someone that they brought in during the pre draft process, 622 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: got to know a lot about and they ended up 623 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: of course drafting Jade Daniels. Falcons end up drafting Michael Pennocks. 624 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: But the Commanders know a lot about Michael Pennocks and 625 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: the Falcons Jane Daniels, vice versa. So what's interesting about 626 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: that though, is, as you wrote this week, Jane Daniels 627 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: and Michael Pinnox have a good relationship with each other. 628 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: So tell us a little bit about kind of what 629 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: that connection is and even the juxtaposition of where their 630 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: careers are to this point. 631 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: I love a good juxtaposition. 632 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love a good juxtaposition truly. 633 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, No, these are two guys that started working 634 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 4: out together in the pre draft process ahead of the combine, 635 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: and along with Sam Hartman, who is the commander's backup, 636 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: they've forged upon and they become good friends. They Jaden 637 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 4: and Mike talk on the phone often, like it was 638 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 4: just last week that they last did, and they both 639 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: had like very kind words to say about each other 640 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 4: in the press conferences this week, which is nice. But yeah, 641 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 4: when you look at their trajectories, it's there's a similarity there. 642 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: And they are two guys that are twenty four years 643 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: old as rookies, they had significant moments in college. They 644 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: even like transferred in a similar way like in their 645 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: their junior seasons and found a lot of success. You know, 646 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: obviously there are two guys that were Jaden was the 647 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three Heisman Trophy winner, Mike was first runner up. 648 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: So like, these guys have kind of running parallel lines, 649 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: So for them to be able to meet in this 650 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: moment is kind of like there's a lot been building 651 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 4: up to this. 652 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 653 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: What's interesting too is you talk about these parallel lines 654 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: that were running throughout their college years, but then it 655 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: diverges once they get drafted to their individual organizations. Because 656 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels is drafted as the guy. Yeah, Michael Pennix 657 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: is drafted as the heir apparent. And with the assumption 658 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: at the time and the plan at the time, hey man, 659 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna see the field if things go 660 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: the way that you know, the Falcons wanted it to. 661 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna learn behind Kirk Cousins for a few years. 662 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: That didn't happen. We're sitting here right now in week seventeen, 663 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: and that's the plan has been shifted and it's been accelerated, 664 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: and now you have Michael Pennocks. So it's really interesting 665 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: to see the fact that like Jaden Daniels has all 666 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: of these reps and moments, and he's been taught, he's 667 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: he's being talked about among the upper echelon of quarterbacks 668 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 2: right now, and because of what he's done and because 669 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: of how how much of a threat he is throwing 670 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: the ball and running the ball, Michael Panix is kind 671 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: of coming into a completely different situation and that. That's 672 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: what I find so interesting about those stories is that 673 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: they started off so parallel and now they're back to 674 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: being parallel. But to get to the point of what 675 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: the last six months has been since they were drafted, 676 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: I think you could it's two completely different stories. 677 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: Google maps versus Apple Maps. 678 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, sure, all right, let's let's move on. 679 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: Just to wrap everything up, Tarren, we're gonna start with 680 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: you and Will. This is for you because this is 681 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: Will's favorite question the podcast end. In the podcast, Taren, 682 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: what is one thing the Falcons need to do to 683 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: get a win on Sunday Night Football? 684 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 3: Contain Jaden Daniels. I think what will be really telling 685 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: is we've talked a lot of like the past rush 686 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: lately and how the Falcons have really turned a corner, 687 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: and I'm curious to see now how they're going to 688 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: do against the Commanders. 689 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: Well, it'll be a good mark No, that was good 690 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: because I think that it actually will be a marker 691 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: of how much progress has been made because of the 692 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: fact that you think back to the quarterbacks that they 693 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: faced very early on in the season. Yeah, Jalen Hurts, Yeah, 694 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. I know he's not like some people don't 695 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: consider him a mobile guy. He can get on it 696 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: like he can break a few tackles. We saw him 697 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: do it over and over and over again, Patrick Mahomes. 698 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: There were some big time quarterbacks that they faced in 699 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: the first four or five weeks of the season that 700 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: presented them a lot of issues because of how mobile 701 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: they were, because of how much they could escape the pocket. 702 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: Now you've recently. 703 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: Had a few more pocket passers that the Falcons have 704 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: been able to get after. But you're going back to 705 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: somebody who right now is one of the best duel 706 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: threats in the game. 707 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean he's second behind Lamar Jackson rushing yards correct. 708 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: So because of that, this is it's like, how how 709 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: much better we've been talking about pass rush? 710 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: It's time to prove it. How much better have you gotten? 711 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: And when you're facing someone as speedy and slimy and 712 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: stick and not sticky at all, Like, how can you 713 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: stack up when those type of quarterbacks gave you so 714 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: so many issues very early on. I'm gonna give you 715 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: the chance to answer to what is one thing the 716 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: Falcons need to do to earn a win on Sunday. 717 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: I feel like this is a pretty universal answer for 718 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: any game, but like win the turnover margin. Yes, especially 719 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 4: when you're gonna be out in the element, it's gonna 720 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: be cold, probably rainy, all these things like you want 721 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 4: to play a clean game and you don't want to 722 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: shoot yourself on the foot in this particular game especially. 723 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you give the commander's chance after chance after chance. 724 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: And they're gonna take them. They're gonna take them. 725 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing is like the different Jayden Daniels is 726 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 2: gonna get his yards, he's gonna get his passes, he's 727 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: gonna like he's gonna cause damage. It's about limiting that damage. 728 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: And if you can take care of the ball and 729 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: also capitalize on mistakes, they do make No one's playing 730 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: a perfect game. That doesn't like that doesn't happen. If 731 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: you can do that, if you can, to your point, 732 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: win the turnover margin, I want to say nine times 733 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: out of ten. I don't know what the exact numbers 734 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: are off the top of my head, but if the 735 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: Falcon this year, specifically, if the Falcons have won the 736 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 2: turnover margin. 737 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: They have almost always won the game. 738 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: And I think that just speaks to kind of what 739 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: we've said over and over the last month when we're 740 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 2: having this conversation about Kirk Cousins and how Zach Robinson 741 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 2: Raheem Morris and even Kirk Cousins himself said, I'm giving 742 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: the ball away and I can't. 743 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: You can't be doing. 744 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 3: That because the number one reason they switch, right. 745 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: And that to me is like if possessions are at 746 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: a premium and you're giving the ball away and you're 747 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: playing in one score games, it's too risky. It's too risky. 748 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: So I completely agree with you there about the turnover margin. 749 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a crazy game, though, I think 750 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: that it's gonna be. You hope it's a fun game. 751 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: You hope that it's playoff caliber. I hope every game 752 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: is a fun game. Of course, we do hope every 753 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: game is a fun game because it makes our lives 754 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: more fun and it gives us something to talk about, 755 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 2: which is nice. 756 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: But it's all for the marbles going up there to 757 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: face the commanders. 758 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: So Marylyn to Marilyn, Yeah, I'm glad that joke has 759 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: made it full circle. 760 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: But I think that's all I got for you guys today. 761 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: What's one thing they gotta do, Tori, You got to 762 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: answer your own question. 763 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with y'all. 764 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: I think that it's it's playing cleanly and I think 765 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: that goes to turnovers. I also think it goes to 766 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: like containing the pocket. It kind of goes into a 767 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: little bit of everything, which maybe is a cop out, 768 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: but I'm I think it's just playing clean football, like 769 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: a room. 770 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: To bring it full circle that Taren. Hopefully the Falcons 771 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: can do that. 772 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 2: But I think it's time for us to head out 773 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: before Teraren makes another vacuum joke or forbid God forbid 774 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: an Alexa joke, like we need to get out of here. 775 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: But they thank you guys so much for joining us. 776 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: For Tern and Amna, I'm Tori. 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Yeah, So, thank you guys so much 786 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: for joining us. 787 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: We will see you gosh after a Washington Commanders versus 788 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons Sunday night football game. Hopefully we have a 789 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: lot of good things to talk about, or just things 790 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 2: to talk about in general, so we'll see you next time. 791 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: You guys. 792 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 6: Today's episode of Falcons Final Whistle is brought to you 793 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 6: by Zaxby's. And after a long game, when I'm tired 794 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 6: and I need to refuel, I turned to Zaxbies. 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