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Speaker 1: What's up y'all.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to No Fouls Given, presented by Prize Picks.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm Big Wise, joined as always by Paul Pierce,

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Speaker 2: Danny Green or the Legends in the House. Got another

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Speaker 2: fantastic show on deck for you guys. So we're gonna

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Speaker 2: walk him down right now. I wanted to get into

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Speaker 2: something a little bit different because there's some news of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Former LA Laker Houston Rocket played on a few teams

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Speaker 2: in the League, Detroit Detroit Christian Wood. He's a long

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Speaker 2: beach guy. His home was broken into. He fired off

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Speaker 2: a few shots at three intruders and they escaped. Nobody

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Speaker 2: was hurt, they they left or whatever. The news kind

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Speaker 2: of hit me a certain way because aving is Sherman Oaks,

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Speaker 2: and I don't live far from Sherman Oaks, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: one town over from over there. So it's just like wow,

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Speaker 2: like this is really happening. And then as I'm reading

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Speaker 2: a news story, they're.

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Speaker 3: Like, yo, it's been happening, you know, like in your backyard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of.

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Speaker 2: These home invasions, and you know, it made me think

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Speaker 2: about you guys, honestly, because I feel like a lot

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Speaker 2: of times athletes do become targets for this kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like they want to take something from you guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean, which leads into another topic that's been big

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Speaker 4: across the country.

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Speaker 3: It's like the gun laws.

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Speaker 4: Right, A big part of my career is in Texas,

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Speaker 4: so it was very loose out there with the gun laws.

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Speaker 4: And I think I'm okay with people owning a firearm

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Speaker 4: if you go through the proper training. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: easy to do it in certain places. You go like

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Speaker 4: a little ten hour class and then you give you

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Speaker 4: a gun. You allowed to buy a gun anywhere. I

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Speaker 4: don't think you should have access to it like that,

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Speaker 4: but if you do it the right way, you should

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Speaker 4: be able to own a firearm.

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Speaker 2: Well, for this freaking this is the reason like number one,

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Speaker 2: like these people came into his house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know, like if he had family home

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Speaker 1: that kids kids.

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Speaker 4: This is why, Like again what I was saying is

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Speaker 4: this makes me want to be like, you know, I

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Speaker 4: need to get back into like the gun range and

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Speaker 4: like make sure because I got young kids.

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Speaker 3: I ain't trying to have.

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Speaker 4: Real and mind you don't want to hurt anybody, But

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Speaker 4: I'm glad nobody got hurt, but you let off some

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Speaker 4: morning shots. But you should be equipped to know how

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Speaker 4: to protect yourself if be in that situation because you

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Speaker 4: don't know what the robbers had, what kind of weapons

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Speaker 4: they might have had.

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Speaker 5: This could be traumatizing though, Yeah, seriously, because like if

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Speaker 5: they broke in, why.

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Speaker 6: You were home?

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Speaker 1: Like it was one pm?

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Speaker 5: Now, Like how you feeling when you're just sitting around

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Speaker 5: the house any time of the night, Yeah, any time

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Speaker 5: of the day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you home. I've been a victim of a robbery.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't home, and you know it was this in Boston,

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Speaker 5: was here right here in Los Angeles area?

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Speaker 6: Uh, like a year ago?

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Speaker 3: That's wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, you get to the points

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Speaker 5: and where you like, man, I'm like, I want to

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Speaker 5: sit in my backyard with my gun. I mean, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: it's one o'clock, Like one o'clock, they just gonna run three,

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Speaker 5: Like damn.

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Speaker 6: If I got kids, I.

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Speaker 5: Got family, Like it's dangerous, man, So I just say, man, please,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what we gotta do or

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Speaker 5: or what's next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like prevent this, like I mean, got people from

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Speaker 4: It's funny because I was just talking to somebody recently

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Speaker 4: about like, you know, I don't know if you visit

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Speaker 4: the UAE over in Abu Dhabi and Dubai like pretty

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Speaker 4: strict like Abu Dhabi, if you walk around with a

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Speaker 4: knife and like you, it's harsher punishments. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: if that's the answer, Like I don't know if they

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Speaker 4: need to change the laws to make it if you

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Speaker 4: get caught trying to rob somebody like harsh punishments. But

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Speaker 4: they got to figure out a way to do something

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Speaker 4: because all the time I hear like people getting their

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Speaker 4: houses robbed, even stores like jewelry stores or certain i'm

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Speaker 4: gonna say restaurants, but just this.

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Speaker 6: Is like the robbery capital.

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Speaker 5: It feels that way because I just saw something of

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Speaker 5: the day on the news where some people ran up

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Speaker 5: on into a restaurant and grabbed the dude watch boom.

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Speaker 6: Let me get that. Yeah, you know, right there in

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Speaker 6: Beverly Hills or something.

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Speaker 4: And they them their professionals, they kind of like st stocking,

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Speaker 4: but they're like watch, they're waiting and they either clocking

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Speaker 4: your home, seeing you leave or seeing what you want.

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Speaker 4: What kind of watch you got on like they was

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Speaker 4: stalking this dude saying, oh he got an r M

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Speaker 4: or he got this. So they knew what they were

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Speaker 4: going in for and they only took that and they

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Speaker 4: took nothing else. But yeah, bro, there's gotta be some

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Speaker 4: type of repercussion.

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Speaker 2: What advice would you give to, you know, your fellow

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Speaker 2: athletes out there in terms of trying to stay safe.

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Speaker 5: It's it's tough because really it's sophisticated. These ain't just

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Speaker 5: casting I like this home and I'm gonna go up

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Speaker 5: because I was wondering, I'm like, so was this a

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Speaker 5: random like? Its targeted. It's sophisticated. It's a group of guys,

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Speaker 5: or not even a group of guys. It's an organization

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Speaker 5: you know that's out there. I mean it's sophisticated too.

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Speaker 5: They'll have drones flying over taking picture scene, what times

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Speaker 5: your cars there and not there and and.

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Speaker 6: Really clocking you.

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Speaker 5: So to prevent it, I would say this, if you're

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Speaker 5: a professional athlete, maybe you hire twenty.

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Speaker 6: Four hour guard, armed guards in front of your house.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know, that could be a solution if you got

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Speaker 5: the money to afford it, especially when you're out of town,

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Speaker 5: you know, But outside of that, man, you just I

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Speaker 5: don't know what else you can do.

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Speaker 4: Truthfully, I know everybody's different, right, but after seeing it,

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Speaker 4: and even after seeing the fires, it made me not

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Speaker 4: want to have anything valuable in the crib. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: not walk out the crib and anything valuable, like even

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Speaker 4: telling life. Like certain places you go, you don't need

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Speaker 4: to be wearing that type of jewelry. And that's one

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Speaker 4: of the reasons why I kind of stopped wearing joy

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Speaker 4: kind of soul like I read like I don't care,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't care to have it at the time,

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Speaker 4: but I don't want to be targeted. If you go

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Speaker 4: out there, people see they know, they're not dumb. They

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Speaker 4: see what kind of you know, items and materialistic they're experts,

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Speaker 4: especially here in certain pat Now, if you go to

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Speaker 4: certain areas like okay, certain events you go to a

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Speaker 4: a wedding, cool, But if you're going out to a

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Speaker 4: like certain places, you don't need to be wearing none

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Speaker 4: of that stuff. So I know, I'm not telling people

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Speaker 4: to do with their money. Yeah, and how to wear

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Speaker 4: like how to operate and how to clothe themselves. But

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Speaker 4: you make yourself less a target if you don't be

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Speaker 4: as loud with what you're wearing. So that's just how

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Speaker 4: I started to move and it was like I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's crazy because I'm of two minds.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, like you work your ass off your

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Speaker 2: whole life to achieve a certain mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, should be to enjoy your be able to enjoy

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Speaker 3: the fruit to labor.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, like, do you really want to

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Speaker 2: make yourself a target for these kind of kinds of people.

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Speaker 2: It's tough, man, It's really tough that that news definitely

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Speaker 1: When I saw my phone today, I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully everybody's good man and prayers up to his family

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Speaker 4: Christian Wood and hopefully it's not like a mental fact

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Speaker 5: Like this is the thing too though, Like I wasn't

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Speaker 5: in my home right, yeah, I steal right now today.

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Speaker 3: I'm unsafe, Like you don't feel comfortable, it's like unsettling feeling.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he was home, so I can't even imagine.

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Speaker 2: How did you guys find out that the home was

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Speaker 2: broken into? Like did you guys, see it on your

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Speaker 2: security cameras while you were going.

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Speaker 5: I was out of town and then I looked at

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Speaker 5: my phone the next morning, like my Lauren went off,

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. And then I had somebody to go

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Speaker 5: to the house and the glass was shattered, and I

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Speaker 5: they were in and out in like four or five minutes.

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Speaker 3: They had it. Jesus professionals.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like you guys said, hopefully Wood and his

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Speaker 1: Type of thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, damn Tony Allen moving Wait, Like that's kind

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Speaker 1: Then you get into it.

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Speaker 2: And you realize that it's like a you know, weed possession,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know, they didn't specify how much cocaine

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Speaker 2: they found, but it had to be some like some

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Speaker 2: minuscule amount because they're calling that possession as well, And

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, bro, y'all, I get it. He's a

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Speaker 2: prominent person. He played in the NBA for how many years?

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Speaker 2: But like that headline kind of killed me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, possessed charges of possession of meth or cocaine. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: the so they don't even know that was the main

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Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, who sports reported that? And I

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Speaker 4: was like, that was the main one that came out first.

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Speaker 3: Then I came out first, and I'm like, what the not?

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Speaker 4: My favorite perk spoke on it earlier, so I think

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Speaker 4: he got more of the inside of the story.

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Speaker 2: Got you and can you te up the video the

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Speaker 2: saying that Tony was uh with was actually driving with.

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Speaker 2: They got the police body cam footage of the gentleman

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Speaker 2: explaining to the cops exactly what happened, and he's still arrested.

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Speaker 1: Tony Allen, I.

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Speaker 7: Don't have anything to hide from anybody.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of weed.

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Speaker 6: It's probably not even a Graham.

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the other, and I have a prescription. It's

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Speaker 7: the other that you're talking about field testing. Tony Allen

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Speaker 7: has absolutely nothing to do with that. Tony Allen has

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Speaker 7: only been in my car since eight.

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Speaker 1: Poin forty three this morning, and we came straight here.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that's testing that is probably weeks and

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Speaker 5: weeks and weeks old.

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Speaker 6: And I'm willing to go to your station right now

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Speaker 6: take a fifth test to prove that I'm not even

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Speaker 6: doing it myself. But physical control of your vehicle coin.

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Speaker 7: And yes, I understand that. I understand that's the charge,

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Speaker 7: and I understand that's possession.

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Speaker 6: I understand that. But I can absolutely promise you, sir,

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Speaker 6: that is not mine. I do not take cocaine. I

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Speaker 6: take my hydra conones. I spoke a little bit of

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Speaker 6: weed because the hyde conoes make me easy.

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Speaker 7: But I have a background from being professional wrestled for

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Speaker 7: fifteen years. That's why when the gentleman opened up my trunk,

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Speaker 7: you'll see that I have several Jimmy hart Soto's and

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Speaker 7: several Jimmy hart Sion autograph sunshades. I was the promoter

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Speaker 7: that ran the Jerry Law and Jimmy HARDIV and Truman artist.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to sir.

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Speaker 6: I just did Tony Allen have anything? Tony Hallen has

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Speaker 6: the show? No, I'm talking about what the cocain. Tony

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Speaker 6: all has absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Nothing to do with any event.

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Speaker 7: Tony Hallen had some on this person, as you know, sirs,

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Speaker 7: personal personal amount.

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Speaker 6: Tony's got absolutely nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 1: I wish I would let Tony go. I am.

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Speaker 6: I will take one hundred.

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Speaker 7: Percent responsibility for everything in my vehicle.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, there was a grindary.

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Speaker 7: It's probably got maybe a half a grand marijuana in

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Speaker 7: it from last night that I just didn't finish off.

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Speaker 6: And I accidentally left my pipe in the car. Again,

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Speaker 6: I just threw everything in and.

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Speaker 1: Again I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, you know, like you've read that headline and

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Speaker 2: this it's almost like, are we trying to paint a

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Speaker 2: certain kind of picture of people?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it can kind of feel that way.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: When I first saw it, I was at dinner with

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Speaker 5: my kids and I saw it. I wasn't even like

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Speaker 5: really worried about it because I know Tony, that's like

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Speaker 5: my brother. We talked at least once a week.

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Speaker 6: I looked. I was like, oh that.

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Speaker 5: And then when I saw you know who he is with,

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Speaker 5: I was like, I know, Tony probably had nothing to

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Speaker 6: I knew off the.

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Speaker 5: Top, like you know certain guys if he had a

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Speaker 5: little tree all right, whatever, you know, outside of that,

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Speaker 5: I know he didn't have nothing else to do with

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Speaker 5: none of that other story, like because I actually actually

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Speaker 5: and so after I saw it on social media, I

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Speaker 5: got on the phone with some of the bros that

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Speaker 5: you know, the inside of the situation and explain exactly this,

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Speaker 5: and it was I was like, Oh, he good, So

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Speaker 5: it's just crazy.

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Speaker 4: He explained all that, and the cops still was like, nah,

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Speaker 4: we're taking them with us. Got to jam him up

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Speaker 4: and then still have to put reports out with his.

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Speaker 6: Name, and he had I think he had to stay tonight.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Yeah, he had to stay tonight.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ for some reefer. That's crazy anyway, Tony, allen

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Speaker 2: hold your head.

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Speaker 5: Man free Tony, we got you.

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Speaker 6: We got you, killing.

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Speaker 2: Free t a man moving right along. We're gonna walk

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Speaker 2: him down, man Lake Show.

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Speaker 4: They got it done, man. They find a ways to

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Speaker 4: win bro even without Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 2: So luka doncic thirty five nine boards, like we all

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Speaker 2: picked him for the over thirty three and a half

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Speaker 2: just to toot our own horn.

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Speaker 3: I mean since he had like eleven twelve, I think

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Speaker 1: Something like that. He control the whole game. Me and

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Speaker 1: Christian were actually at a crypto.

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Speaker 3: For the game, and so you were there to watch

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Was it fun to watch the game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, You mean that the last the crazy shit that happened.

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Speaker 4: About the whole game. The end of the game made

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Speaker 4: it fun, for sure, But the whole game did.

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Speaker 1: Was you enjoyed it?

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Speaker 3: There was eighty three throw shot in that game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's.

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Speaker 3: Both teams shot forty four.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's different when it's a TV product.

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Speaker 2: When you're at the arena and the ladies coming to

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Speaker 2: take your drink.

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Speaker 1: Or it's.

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Speaker 6: Different.

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Speaker 1: I'm chopping it up with Paulie.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what I mean, Like it was

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Speaker 2: fine for me, but I understand what you mean with

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Speaker 2: the whistle. And I think we talked about how like

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Speaker 2: tight they're calling it early season that that wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: But I think just watching Luca just be unapologetically great

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Speaker 3: And we expected that.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to see more Webby, but we couldn't because

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Speaker 4: of the foul trouble. Right he found out, Harrison Barnes

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Speaker 4: found out. I'm like, yo, damn it. Everybody had four

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Speaker 4: or five files. It was a lot, bro It was

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Speaker 4: a lot to watch. Now going back to the m

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Speaker 4: v P Ladder or top three, you know all.

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Speaker 3: The ladder shifting. Sg A still in there, but we's

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Speaker 3: coming out. Yogic is in the top web on the

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Speaker 3: way out because I mean he had a tough game

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Speaker 4: Two Knights in row, which was not a bad night,

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Speaker 4: but said the foul trouble and then you could tell

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Speaker 4: trying to get him the ball, Like they got to

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Speaker 4: and he has to figure out how to stay and

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Speaker 4: demand on that spot instead of coming to the three

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Speaker 4: on they called karmelong spot in certain places, get on

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Speaker 4: starting to throw different things at him. He's it's kind

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Speaker 2: Paul, what do you think wemb he should do if

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Speaker 2: he's having trouble Guys fronting him, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: So he's not able to get the entry pass like

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Speaker 2: guys are being like very handsy and physical. I thought

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Speaker 2: I thought it was brilliant that JJ put Ruy on

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Speaker 4: Mean, he saw the the blueprint the night before the

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Speaker 4: Phoenix they did like roy O'Neill. I think Ryann they

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Speaker 4: threw different. They threw smaller like big guards, but smaller

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Speaker 4: it has somebody weeks out behind him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they have to build something around him

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Speaker 6: I think you watch Joker how where he operates between post.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's seven four, Yeah, he needs one dribble

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Speaker 4: Then he get offense rebound two from there, like he

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Speaker 1: It felt like in the fourth quarter he started getting

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Speaker 3: Figuring, trying to himself more, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And getting getting the ball.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of some of it feels like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a mature thing. He's definitely gotta he's still maturing.

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Speaker 4: We're still seeing that how to be consistent, how to

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Speaker 3: But that's their whole team.

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Speaker 4: You could down the stretch you could tell they had

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Speaker 4: no real clutch time poise, right, And that's what Darren

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Speaker 4: Year a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: Even before he got the injury in his hand, he

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Speaker 4: but you've seen him. He's a guy that has been

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Speaker 4: in a situation in the clutch and will be okay

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Speaker 4: with making a play. Were getting guys settled. Once when

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Speaker 4: your leaders, I'm like that for them to have an

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Speaker 2: Is that something that refs often called that Mark now

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Speaker 2: Smart the in and out because he tried to rush

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Speaker 4: There was a violation of inbound Mark Smart, he didn't

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Speaker 3: He threw the ship full court. They got a violation

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Speaker 3: they were.

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Speaker 1: Up to that's not called in my bugget.

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Speaker 4: The way he did that was kind of crazy, Oh

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Speaker 4: he did it was kind of crazy. It was remember

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Speaker 4: Kat was out of bounce hitting the ball. The referees

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Speaker 4: But it wasn't that bad because Katie had a bound

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Speaker 4: it was pretty.

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Speaker 2: On the opposite end of the We obviously can't see

450
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Speaker 2: where his feet on relationship.

451
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 3: You see it on the tube. It was like, damn

452
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 3: he doing before he even got a bounce.

453
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Speaker 4: He was throwing it before he even you know, and

454
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 4: even when he threw it, I don't think he got

455
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 4: all the way out Like it was.

456
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Speaker 3: It was pretty bad.

457
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 4: So normally they don't call it, but I feel like

458
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 4: they had to call that one. I thought the tipping,

459
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 4: I didn't realize when I watched it. I didn't know

460
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 4: how much time they put back on the clock. I'm like,

461
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 4: there's not enough time to even foul a guy. When

462
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 4: I saw the clock, it was like point two point one,

463
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 4: and you know, Jake Larivia thousand on the tipping. I'm like,

464
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 4: I don't even know there's enough time to even foul somebody,

465
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 4: so Champagne And also when Champagne got to the free

466
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 4: throw line, I'm like, he's never been a situation before. Yeah,

467
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, he's going I'm like, and he's a shoot.

468
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 4: He's a shooter, so I'm like, he's a good shooter.

469
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 4: But I don't matter who.

470
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Speaker 6: You are, which this is a Los Angeles.

471
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Speaker 3: It's a tough scenario for this young kid, but he's

472
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Speaker 3: gonna learn from it.

473
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Speaker 1: The first one, from get to the second shot, I

474
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: was like, if you.

475
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Speaker 4: Make the first one, he's gona be right, but this

476
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 4: first one is gonna be tough. And then soon enough,

477
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Speaker 4: I was like, damn, I knew he It was tough

478
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 4: for my fel. He's a good shooter though, and he'll

479
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 4: he'll bounce back from it. But not having Dylan Harper,

480
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 4: not having Darren Fox, but they did get so hand back.

481
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 4: Yeah his first game, Kelly Olynock, I forgot what was

482
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: over there. Yeah, they're they're pretty deep team. Man Cornett

483
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 4: is still out. Yeah, Like if they get Coornate olynic

484
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 4: At the big behind Wenby and you got Darren Fox

485
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 4: and Dylan Harper, they're gonna be good.

486
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: So good learning experience from.

487
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to get the ball because the Lakers they're

488
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: moving bro looking pretty good.

489
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, they looking good.

490
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 5: I'm trying they need to try to find a way

491
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 5: to train Lebron.

492
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 6: He gonna hold him back.

493
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: Hot topic. It's been a hot topic. You know.

494
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna ruin the equilibrium.

495
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so.

496
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 4: I think it only helped, like guys get more open looks,

497
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 4: like Jake Laaravia had a tough game. I think because

498
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 4: Austin Reeves wasn't there. Like if you have Austin and Luca,

499
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: now he gets more open looks.

500
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, though, like you got Luca is the

501
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 5: guy clear and we're seeing what Reeves improvement is looking

502
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 5: like with the ball, the way he play makes. How

503
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 5: do you implement Lebron to what they're doing?

504
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 6: Now?

505
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, how does that work?

506
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 5: Because I my playmakers are clearly read and Luca, like

507
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 5: Lebron's not a spot up shooter, he's not a post player.

508
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 6: He needs the ball in his hand.

509
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 4: But they made it look good last year. They all

510
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 4: three don't have to be at the floor at all times,

511
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 4: at the same time for the start the game and

512
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 4: finish the game. So there's gonna be times where you

513
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 4: can take one of them off.

514
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 6: But I say it works.

515
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 4: Bron playing in the dunker and runner he did last

516
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: year like more floor playing, playing the good screen. He

517
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 4: was playing the role playing like a Draymond role.

518
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, he could do that.

519
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: He's just he's the best.

520
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 6: You're trying to turn Lebron is a Draymond.

521
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 5: Now you just saying.

522
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 3: I said he could play the Draymond role, like where

523
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: he can be the screen of the quarterback.

524
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: So you're saying Lebron's gonna come back and he's gonna

525
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: want to be on the ball.

526
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 6: Twenty five, seven and seven.

527
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's about right. But he can still do that.

528
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 4: But playing the pick and roll action like him being

529
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 4: the role guy. He playing the dunk or something.

530
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 6: He throws the ball in his hands at the top.

531
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Speaker 2: You're saying Lebron doesn't know how to adjust his game.

532
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 4: He had he didn't know the series against Golden State

533
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: when they went to the Western Conference finals. Draymond even

534
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 4: his pop was like, yo, I don't know how to

535
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: guard this because we've never seen Bron do this before.

536
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 6: What year was that?

537
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: It's like two three years ago, but they didn't have.

538
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: Memphis long ago.

539
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 6: Had Schroder was I know it was Dangelo and.

540
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: Bron gonna come back and he's gonna prove you wrong.

541
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: He's played off the ball, play a.

542
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 6: Different roster year that they got swept by Denver.

543
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was Western Conference finals. They won one.

544
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: It was sweet. Was the sweet.

545
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 5: Ye know, they got swept.

546
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 3: They got to Western. Nobody predicted that.

547
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: But again, now you have Luther with Yes, now they

548
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 4: have Luca, but he's played off the ball before with

549
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 4: that group, and he's played off the ball with Luca

550
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 4: last year or something, So he's a Luca.

551
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Speaker 6: Wasn't there last year and the last when they went

552
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 6: to the conference. I'm saying.

553
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: So you're just saying Lebron's gonna come back.

554
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: He's gonna demand to play like it's Cleveland in two

555
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: thousand and eight again, and he's going to ruin the balance.

556
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, it's not him out here demanding it. It's

557
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 5: just like I said before his gravitational pool, it's just

558
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 5: he's when he's out there, it's just here Lebron here.

559
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: I think it's more so I can see that by

560
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: human nature, they're gonna give him the ball. I think

561
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 4: Austin Reeves takes less of a role in that with

562
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: the starting group, but I think he takes more of

563
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: a demand. Once he's with that second unit.

564
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 5: He's going to bring down the contract value of Austin Reeves.

565
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 6: It may be a good thing.

566
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 5: And a long for the Lakers because this Austin Reeves

567
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: price is way up. With Lebron, it goes down significantly.

568
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 6: So we'll see.

569
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Speaker 2: And I do I want to highlight JJ Reddick because

570
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: I do think he's doing a great job in terms

571
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: of this group feels together, like being there, like it

572
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: seems like these guys like each other. They like they

573
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: each other, they they understand like what their offensive philosophy is.

574
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: It's like when this Luca action doesn't work, I'm gonna

575
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: come and do this.

576
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like this is a.

577
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Cohesive offense and group and you know they're piecing the

578
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 2: like I like that they're piecing the defense together where

579
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: it's like every now and again, they're zoning up every

580
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: now and again, they're making eight and plays super aggressive

581
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: on the pick and roll.

582
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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this is like.

583
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: I give J.

584
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: I give JJ some love, but I like, I gotta

585
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 4: give credit to the players man for sure, like they

586
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: making it happen, like stepping up Nick Junior getting twenty

587
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: five DeAndre a and getting twenty nine and like twenty

588
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 4: two and ten against Wenby, you know, Jake Loraven having

589
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: a couple of career nights for them, Like they're having

590
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: guys Marcus Smart doing the dirty work, like they're hooping

591
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: looking for like DeAndre knows is a make a break

592
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: season for him.

593
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: Marcus Smart knows like it's a make a break They're hooping.

594
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 5: In this In this offense, though, where do you position

595
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: Lebron in the pick and roll with Luca? Like in

596
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: the in the basis of the offense, the way is ran.

597
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 5: You got eight and the pick man and rolling.

598
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 4: It's got so yeah, So look at the one, yeah,

599
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: Alston at the two, right, Rory at the three, Brown

600
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: at the four?

601
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 6: Now is he in the corner?

602
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: Nah?

603
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 6: Does it ruin the to me?

604
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Bron can Alternately.

605
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: He's a slashing spot. He's like a wing slash.

606
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 6: So Lebron's the picker now, yeah, and you put the

607
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 6: dun spot.

608
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 4: But I feel like he can still be on a

609
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: on a wing where he's a slash the spot when

610
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: somebody drives. You know, he does that when somebody he

611
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 4: does that slash for the dunk type ship. And also

612
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: if you have Reeves in a slash spot or a corner,

613
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: he could be a pinned down They come off a

614
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 4: double double dh O handoff, and he can be a

615
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: roll shake up guy where he is shooting the three

616
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: better than his the last couple of years than he

617
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: had in his first half of his career, so he

618
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 4: can still shoot the three, and then from there you

619
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 4: can also attack off the catch. You know he's gonna

620
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 4: be attack off the catch. He's not gonna be his

621
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: pick much down with.

622
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: Luca because he played with Kyrie and they actually perfected this.

623
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: Like there's just sometimes Luca's just like here.

624
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: Like the ball off the floor, Like Bron is gonna

625
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: be running like receiver Bro. Lucas gonna be throwing up

626
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: it sometimes. And I was to seem doing last year

627
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: at forty, like run the floor, get dunks and out rebound.

628
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: Guys in the dunker spot. I'm like, what this MOFFU?

629
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: Really?

630
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: So I was on something.

631
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: I woke up this morning the athletics sent me a

632
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: push notification says Lebron is ready, He's ready to start

633
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: coming back up. Yeah, so he's he's about to come

634
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: back seven and.

635
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: For sure he got time now, like he don't have

636
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: to rush them being seven to two like they were like, oh,

637
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: Lakers are in trouble. He could actually take his time

638
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: and come back end of November and be really ready.

639
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I don't think we could

640
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: be fresh. We got a fresh bron I'm saying, you

641
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: seem as you give him two weeks off last year,

642
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 3: just took a week off.

643
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 6: The chemistry is there right now. I don't know.

644
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 5: Now you gotta reach that's like going back to training camp.

645
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 5: Now when you implement him into the starting lineup, it's

646
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 5: like now, if they drop a first couple of gamebody's

647
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: gonna be like, oh, you know, he's messing up the

648
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 5: got and by everybody you see them, you know, we'll

649
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 5: see all right.

650
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: We gotta get to the other side of the NBA life.

651
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: There's there's those that are having seasons like the Lakers.

652
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Everything is rosy.

653
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: You wake up in the morning, you want to watch ESPN,

654
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: you want to read everything that's being written about the Lakers.

655
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: You happy if you're in Maverick's land.

656
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Uh, it's madness over there.

657
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: Nico really said this.

658
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: This is this is not Nico. This is a Dumont

659
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: the team governor.

660
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so Miriam Adelson, who owns the team, she basically

661
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: put this guy Patrick Dumont in charge.

662
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Yes, but that quote right there, the governor's from Dumont.

663
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: But the quote right there, I think I've done a

664
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: really good job. Here was that from this year from Nico?

665
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Which quarter are we looking.

666
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: At in the middle. Jason Gallagher retweeted, Oh.

667
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's just saying I can't recent. No,

668
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: I think he's saying, like in his ten uere as

669
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: they go.

670
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: To the finals, one year, conference finals, all of that.

671
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: I think he's saying, like I've done overall.

672
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: So don't don't judge me by this this year again.

673
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: Yes, but I do want to get to the Patrick

674
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: Dumont quote where he says.

675
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: Trading April, so like after the trade, right after the trade, Okay,

676
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: April twenty first, twenty twenty five, so.

677
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: Patrick Dumont, Patrick Dumont said, quote, trading Luka Doncic was

678
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: a decision about the future.

679
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: We got the.

680
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: Championship games and we didn't win, so we had to

681
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: decide how to get better.

682
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: And I guess this is a new owner with the.

683
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, brand new owner and I guess they thought getting

684
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: rid of Luka Dontich meant better days for the Dallas

685
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: Mavericks going to be ahead.

686
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: They're last in the West.

687
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: They're looking like New Orleans. Bro, this is bad.

688
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: They're dead last in the West, really bad.

689
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: This is how you said a franchise back decades. Yeah,

690
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: like seriously, like one move can set it back for

691
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 5: one bad draft pick or one one trade, like they

692
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: overthink it, like, well, like what's the what's the You

693
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 5: don't trade a first team all NBA MVP candidate years in.

694
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: A row and he's only twenty five to twenty six.

695
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: It's just like, come on, you would hope that you

696
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: would speak to like Patrick would have talked to Cube Cuban.

697
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, no, let me you should have you know,

698
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: let me have a conversation before I make this decision.

699
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: Now.

700
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: This is a bad decision all around, and said, I

701
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: don't even blame Nico for this because I think I

702
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: think this was above him obviously the owners back in this.

703
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there was a.

704
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: I think with ownership where they were basically eight months

705
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: away from being faced with giving Luca a contract of

706
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: three hundred whatever millions.

707
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: The big extension. What he's showing he fully deserves.

708
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: For sure, and they're like, wait a minute, we can't

709
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: get this guy to come in on shape. Wait a minute,

710
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: we asked this guy to do X, Y and Z

711
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: and he blows us off. Wait a minute, Like they

712
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: felt like that's not the kind of guy you hand

713
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: that much money too and that much commitment to. But

714
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: like the flip side is like what has he done

715
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: on the floor, Like it's been nothing but positive, insane success,

716
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: unprecedented success.

717
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

718
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: I guess the what if, Like the question is like,

719
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: would Luca have been skinny Luca in doubtas.

720
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: I truly don't believe so, I don't think so.

721
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: So you think it's his career would have taken a

722
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: different turn if he did.

723
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: I really do think that.

724
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any It's almost like the

725
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: John Moran thing that I was saying, like they've never

726
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: been able to basically tell him what to do, but he's.

727
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 4: Never been Zion where he's been hurt every years so

728
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: far that far out of shape. I feel like he.

729
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: Injuries the last about.

730
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: The guys, the cat, like even if he wasn't skinny,

731
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: looka in Dallas thirty thirty nine and nine. Hearing these

732
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: numbers thirty nine and nine league like in Dallas, y'all

733
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: taking that?

734
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Come on, that's this And you know because like because.

735
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: Nico, he's got the whole Kobe connection. Obviously he was

736
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Kobe's guy, Nike and all of that. And if you

737
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time with Kobe and you see

738
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: like his his level of work ethic, I can understand

739
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: what somebody would say that's the model for superstar success.

740
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: Paul's is like bro thirty nine and nine.

741
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: And he plays all your y'all plays all year.

742
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 6: Round, saying I'll take it. This is nuts.

743
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to present the Dallas point of view.

744
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: Obviously I don't.

745
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: Is making RP look great? Rob Polinka he looks like

746
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: a genius.

747
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Rob, Well, you know what we overwrapped it was

748
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: smart enough, Like, yes, Dallas is in the last place,

749
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: But we gotta ask was the trade of Luca a

750
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 5: long term goal or did they feel like they can

751
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 5: still compete when they made the trade.

752
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying that they thought they could compete,

753
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 6: but like you can't think you can't think that.

754
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: Llas, Yeah, they was they saw so like, we can't

755
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: I see what they expected him to a D.

756
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: But if Ad, if Ad came in skinny on some

757
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: Luca skinny ad type, which it didn't happen, so like

758
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: not saying that he was out of shape, but he

759
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: didn't come in like you know, I'm about to be cool.

760
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: With Cooper playing the point though I'm trying to develop

761
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 5: him right now.

762
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: This wouldn't be a convererce if eighties was healthy all

763
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: the time, was in great shape, if he looked like

764
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: eighty that we saw early Laker days or New Orleans,

765
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: this would be a different conversation. So they pretty much

766
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: banked on if we trade for a D, can we

767
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 4: get him health like do you have the medical staff.

768
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: To keep him healthy?

769
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: Aging and get him.

770
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 4: And but it's like we got a win to win championship,

771
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: and I feel like with this person we could win

772
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: in the next two three years. We can win the

773
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: championship with Gafford, Lively, Kyrie Clay. Now again, Kim's put

774
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: a whole bunch on a D because everybody else not playing.

775
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: Kai's not there right now. Cooper Flag is still trying

776
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 4: to he's a rookie. Clay is having a rough year

777
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 4: right now, Like everybody is having a tough time right now.

778
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 4: But that's what they were banking on A D's health

779
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: more so than anything, and that's a tough thing. As

780
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: he's getting older, it's a tough thing to bank on. Yeah,

781
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: but you know you better have the best medical staff

782
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: in the world to make sure he's where he needs

783
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: to be.

784
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 5: Right division the way is looking right now. If I'm

785
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 5: Dallas Mavericks, I'm looking to trade a D play to

786
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 5: get into the lottery with this deep draft class coming up,

787
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: and see who I can deal with Cooper Flag Like,

788
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: that's that's if I need.

789
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: You train, you gotta trade everybody. You gotta trade Ki.

790
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't think they I don't think you play first

791
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: pick this year.

792
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: I think that's that's another.

793
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: At what point do you shut it down? And at

794
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: what point do you give this group until you're like,

795
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: all right, we're gonna just.

796
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: Right now, really yeah, right now, November six, right now, listen,

797
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: like I got a way to obviously ad show he

798
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: can play some more and not be hurting so his

799
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: value can come down.

800
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Wait till it's at least twenty twenty six, I give it.

801
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: You want to give it a whole season.

802
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: No, this is I ain't coming back to like end

803
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: of December January, right, yeah, I gotta give it the

804
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: full season.

805
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 5: I mean still, what is your expectations for this team

806
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 5: before the season started? What what was your expectations Conference finals?

807
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 5: Western Conference Finals? Yeah, before the season started.

808
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: No, yes, And I don't think I'm alone in that,

809
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: Danny stop. Everybody's looking at a d with this.

810
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 4: So with Lively and if Kyrie coming back with Clay,

811
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: Like with Cooper Flag, everybody the hype Cooper Flag coming out.

812
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: People thought Cooper Flag was like, yo, we got cool.

813
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: They got one to see.

814
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 6: I had him six seed that best.

815
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 3: I think that's easy to say right now. No, name

816
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: the teams.

817
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: I can name the teams I had ahead of them

818
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 5: before the season started. Had obviously okay, see Denver, Minnesota,

819
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: Houston off the jump.

820
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: So you had him at five, Clippers and Lakers.

821
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 6: I think I had Clippers and then maybe.

822
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: That Okay, see I had Denver and I had that

823
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: broke once they got the number pick and got Cooper Flag,

824
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: most people had him at.

825
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: Three or four.

826
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: No, No, no, maybe publications.

827
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm not.

828
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm in like the minority here, I

829
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: had him six that best Western Conference finals was never

830
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: in the cards.

831
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: For this team.

832
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: And had nobody had Minnesota above them?

833
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: They don't.

834
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 5: I haven'tbody had Minnesota, but they have no Yes, everybody,

835
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: they have no guards was showing now they signed.

836
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 3: Was out. Yeah he's coming back soon though because.

837
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 6: Not at the beginning of the season.

838
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: When Kyrie said he's coming back soon, that doesn't mean

839
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: that that was Actually.

840
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 4: Most people predicted him to come back before like Christmas,

841
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: and they thought Ad would be able to with Cooper

842
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: Flag and that front line of Lively. Guess gaff had

843
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: been out, but Gafford Lively a D PJ Washington who

844
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: they just signed extension, get d Lo, you get uh,

845
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: got Clay there, you got a loaded team for the season.

846
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: Most people would have been the number one who's the

847
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 5: number one or let's say the healthy who's the number

848
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: one option?

849
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: A D.

850
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 2: A D is not a number one option, like he's

851
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: not a creator like somebody.

852
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: Has that was before kay got back like a D

853
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 4: until Kyrie gets back.

854
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: So once k is back as.

855
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: A D, kyrieuser one.

856
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 6: Yes, neither one of them has been the number one.

857
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: Kyrie time his life has never been a number one

858
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: for anybody and now.

859
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 6: Brief, brief second in Boston. Yeah, before he got hurt.

860
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 4: Them together combined is a very good one A one

861
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: b It sounds good, but that's why you also surround

862
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 4: him with PJ.

863
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: Washington.

864
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: You extended for ninety million, you got Gafford and Lively,

865
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 4: you got Clay, you got d Lo coming off the bench.

866
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: You got Flag, the number one pick that everybody thought

867
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 4: was gonna be the best thing bad.

868
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: But he's a rookie.

869
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: I understand. It don't matter.

870
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 4: You still thought the impact of Zion, we've seen an

871
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: impact of Zion when he first started hoping. People thought

872
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: that impact we've seen one be as impact. People looked

873
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 4: at Cooper Flag, he was gonna.

874
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: Have impact right away, type of impact, not the similar.

875
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: But they thought he would come in and have an impact.

876
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 6: Not the same as Zion.

877
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: Bro He was comparing him to Grant Hill, like he

878
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: was one of the best duke to come out.

879
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm not no, like I thought he was great.

880
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: I thought it was great, but I thought, yeah, he's

881
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 5: one of the best duke players that come out.

882
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: He could be a really good rookie like and people

883
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: thought signs and flashes for the future and don't go

884
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and help teams win ever they number

885
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: one pick or not, like whoever.

886
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: You That's why, that's why people thought it was gonna

887
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: be good because he's coming to Dallas.

888
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: It was already a good team, you know.

889
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 5: Way in comparison for him was and I said this

890
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 5: many times, and when he was in college and the league,

891
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: I said, my player of comparison with him was Andrew Carolinko.

892
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, that sounds more realistic to me, but everybody else,

893
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 4: not everybody else in the world was thinking that I was.

894
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: I said, they were put him in a conversation with

895
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 3: Grant but they.

896
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 6: Andre Carolinka, who was a very good player in the NBA.

897
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: Fact, I was thinking like the more recent like Gordon Hayward,

898
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: like that's who I saw he can grow into. But

899
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 4: they're looking at Grant Hill Jason Tatum like they were

900
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: predicting him to be in that conversation of like produce

901
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: like not production, but grow into that.

902
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: It's he still can. It's still early.

903
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: But they thought being on a team like that he

904
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: would have a good impact because he's not on a

905
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 4: bump team where everbody could just throw everything out. You know,

906
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 4: I'm saying he's not on a bad team where everybody

907
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: could just trap him and he'd be the focal point

908
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 4: and targeted.

909
00:39:59,640 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

910
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: I mean to me, that roster was always unbalanced. It's

911
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: still got three cents.

912
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: It shows that. It's showing it now.

913
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: But he's a freaking this whole A d playing power

914
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: forward is ridiculous.

915
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: Admit I was wrong, but I don't think again, I

916
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: don't think I'm in the minority here. I had him

917
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: in the top three. Like I had high expectations for

918
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: his dull team before the darting season.

919
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: I was like, playing they're playing team.

920
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: But started season starting, they showed him at the point

921
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 4: guard and they're damn we have no guards.

922
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: Nobody's guards. Everyone's like, yo, this looks.

923
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: And even Kyrie comes back, you can't expect him to

924
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: just pick up where he left off at pre injury.

925
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: There's going to be a pretty decent long adjustment period

926
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: of him getting back into his body and trusting his

927
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: body again.

928
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

929
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: Maybe so, But Kyrie's had injuries before, and every time

930
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: he's coming back, he's looked Okay. He's not one guy

931
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: that I've ever had doubt I don't look at him

932
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 4: as like, oh Joe embiid, how's he going to be moving?

933
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: Guy's a stopping go shifting like guy and he's always

934
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 4: been that now, I said, we've seen it happened with

935
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: Kemba Walker, but this is not like a hip issue,

936
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: So I don't know like how that worked for him.

937
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 4: But kay, I fully expect him to be okay when

938
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: he comes back.

939
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: I hope he gets back soon because it is sad

940
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: as all hell in Dallas right now.

941
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: Man, we gotta we gotta get a crystal ball out.

942
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: Here because he has been on a fucking Because we

943
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: were looking at run Bro, unbelievable run Bro in Portland Bro.

944
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: We're trying to find their first loss, and maybe three

945
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: seconds into looking at the city.

946
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: Said Portland, he said back to back.

947
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 6: Because it was just like the flight.

948
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: Listeners shot to do that. Check too, right, said check

949
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: you play, Yeah.

950
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 5: You play back to backs and I don't care who

951
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 5: you play. And then you're playing a young team who

952
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 5: gonna get up and there they're playing hard, and then

953
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 5: you get because people don't understand, Yeah it's Portland cool,

954
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 5: I get it, but like fatigue kicking, you're flying out

955
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: You're probably not getting into like two three in the morning.

956
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 5: Your prep is gonna be minimum at best. You're gonna

957
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 5: look at some film. It ain't like going through a

958
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: real walkthrough, you know what I'm saying. You need to

959
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 5: walk throughs. Like, but when you when you look at

960
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 5: film and say, all right, this is the game plan

961
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: that you go out there, it's it's difficult.

962
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I was just like, this is a set

963
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 6: up game.

964
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 5: It was a setup game, like it was a trap

965
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: because I didn't play it on on them type of

966
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: games where we supposed to beat them, but we had

967
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 5: no rest, no practice.

968
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 6: And this is an NBA team.

969
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 5: Who's going to show up eventually, they get paid, they

970
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 5: get paid to Portland is shown that they're decent. They

971
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: ain't looking like the Pelicans or the Mavericks. They're actually

972
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: kind of So that's why I said, uh, Portland, and

973
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 5: you know they actually you know, okay, should have won

974
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 5: that guy.

975
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, if played I think it might be a little different.

976
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 6: Even if didn't play.

977
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: It was twenty It was crazy. You holiday rained seven

978
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: threes or something like that. It was it was crazy

979
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: because we were talking about it too, and I was like,

980
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be some incredible team that knocks

981
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: him all. This might be a night with somebody's in

982
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: foul trouble. They can't miss from three, you can't make

983
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: your threes.

984
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: That kind of thing.

985
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: And then they got got toy lost their first game

986
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: of the season. Finally, but shake gilges Alexander has scored

987
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: twenty plus points as of last night in eighty straight games.

988
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: This is the third.

989
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: Longest streak ever, behind only two streaks that Will Chamberlain

990
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: has well. The record is one hundred and twenty six

991
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: games to do this, Like, I have no reason to

992
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: believe he can't do this.

993
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the dude is a metronome, he's

994
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: a machine.

995
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: He's locked in.

996
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 6: This is what a lot of things have to go

997
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 6: right for him too.

998
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gottaought.

999
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 5: You would have thought like Lebron Mike would have like

1000
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 5: kind of been on the streak like this, but like

1001
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 5: something happens where you jam yo toe in the first

1002
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 5: quarter and you're done for the game.

1003
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 6: Jimmy, so something like that. But if he if he's healthy,

1004
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 6: I don't see why not.

1005
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: There's just no way to stop this guy from getting

1006
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 2: twenty points in a forty eight minute game unless he's.

1007
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 4: Him stopping himself or like an injury happening, so something

1008
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: has to go wrong. I don't think he catches both,

1009
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 4: though there's a reason why that that one of those

1010
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: records has been last last for a really long time.

1011
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: I think it gets close, though, I think it's I

1012
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 3: think it's.

1013
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: Over one hundred. He might get over one hundred games.

1014
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 4: I think it's over one hundred. But yeah, I don't

1015
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: think he's catching well.

1016
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: But even still, like.

1017
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: The equivalent of a season, an entire season, you can

1018
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: go to the next season, you play eighty games. It's

1019
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: like looking at your your game logs and you never

1020
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: went for the whole year underneath twenty Yes, pretty.

1021
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: Much he I did it for almost a full season.

1022
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: But I'm also I'm surprised Luca streak. Like, there's a

1023
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 4: lot of guys that can score the ball at an

1024
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 4: easy clip, get to the free throw line, lucky, get

1025
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: to the free throw line, very strategic.

1026
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: What else do we think has even the capability of

1027
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: getting the streak?

1028
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 6: Why hasn't Lebron done it?

1029
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 5: Had Maybe it's something that happened in the game when

1030
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 5: they couldn't finish the game, you know, what I'm saying,

1031
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 5: because they're not.

1032
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 6: They're scoring twenty for sure.

1033
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they're.

1034
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 2: Playing, yeah, maybe a blowout or something that you don't

1035
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: even play the whole fourth quarter or whatever.

1036
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is just a When producer Chris brought

1037
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: this up, I.

1038
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: Was like, this is just one of the that's only

1039
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: happened if they get if they blow somebody, he'll play.

1040
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 4: Or if they blow they get blown out and injury

1041
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: or injury. And it's like he played, you don't have

1042
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: to play the third orold quarter because we don't want

1043
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: to get hurt. We're up forty by halftime, No, for sure.

1044
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: And it's not the kind of streak where you tell

1045
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: the coach keep me in. It's like, it's fine, I

1046
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: lost my twenty point streak. All right, man, Let's get

1047
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: to our favor part of the Night, Picks of the

1048
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: Night presented by Prize Picks. There's some NBA Cup action

1049
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: coming up. We got the Rockets, its man, We got

1050
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: the Rockets at the Spurs.

1051
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: We have Wemby twenty five and a half more than

1052
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: or less than.

1053
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: I told you all that Wenby less than was coming

1054
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: in against them Lakers.

1055
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: He started off the season so Yeah, he came out hot,

1056
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: bro looked like he could score, Like he is very

1057
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 4: capable of scoring.

1058
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: Yes, but he's not the consistent team. Yes, And they

1059
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: have a lot of big bodies.

1060
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with less

1061
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: than they got sangoone, they got Steven Adams, they got

1062
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: got Katie who's like one of their worst rep Like

1063
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 4: he's seven ft. He's probably the worst defender or rebound

1064
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: on like.

1065
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: And you talk about length and ller May Kate, I'm and.

1066
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: Thompson Garden on the perimeter. You got singing and Steven

1067
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: Ies behind him with KD.

1068
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 6: You know so, and he played a perimeter. Ain't like

1069
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 6: he dominated them.

1070
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: No, And they got some guys at the bench that

1071
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: are pretty solid.

1072
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 5: Who's been struggling lately. He's not dominating the post. He's

1073
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 5: been floating. Yeah, and saying that I'm gonna go more.

1074
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: He's going to have a breakout game more than twenty

1075
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: his bounce back game.

1076
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 6: It'll be bounced.

1077
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: Back KD more or less than twenty five twenty four

1078
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, Kady is even lower than women.

1079
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one because they got the gout.

1080
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: Other threats have been scoring well, like I'm Tomson like

1081
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 4: twenty eight other night.

1082
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: Yeah shots, I'm gonna get some buckets. I'm gonna go more.

1083
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with you more so too.

1084
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna need him to more than I'm

1085
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 5: gonna go less, because I think KD is starting to

1086
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 5: realize he doesn't have to score guys stupid. I mean

1087
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 5: the last game I believe he had like nineteen and stuff,

1088
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: and he's like, look, I got some young hitters over

1089
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 5: here that that can carry me through the regular season.

1090
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 5: I'll have special games here and there. So I'm gonna

1091
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 5: go less.

1092
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 3: I think the special game is coming.

1093
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: Stefan Castle more than less than nineteen and a half.

1094
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: He's been hooping, bro. I'm going more, y'all take more.

1095
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: He's one of my breakouts year. He's been balling, bro.

1096
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: He's not afraid to shoot the ball.

1097
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: He's confidencive, aggressive, He the free throw line more. Yeah, yea,

1098
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go more. Like he's the reason why

1099
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: that they also been playing so well because without Darren Fox,

1100
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 4: he's been the guy.

1101
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: Yes, he's doing most of the ball handling, like you

1102
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: know they've been doing to go underneath the screen on him,

1103
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: and he's just not scared to let it fly more

1104
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: or less than.

1105
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: Oh, Stephan Caston, I'm gonna go less. I think the

1106
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 5: athleticism is going in the lymph of Houston is gonna

1107
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: give him a problem with the speed.

1108
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: Shn Goon nineteen and a half SANGUINEI I'm I'm more.

1109
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 6: I'm definitely going more with him.

1110
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna go more with single, more with

1111
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: is Mere, with.

1112
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: Devin for Sale fourteen and a half, more or less than.

1113
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less less for me too. But yeah,

1114
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: if Sega scored on his shoot. But I feel like.

1115
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 5: He's gonna be the odd man out out of Skott Report.

1116
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 5: He's gonna be left open.

1117
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go more.

1118
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: I feel like he's getting less shots this year than

1119
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: he was in the past.

1120
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 6: More he can get you fifteen. He had a good

1121
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 6: game last game.

1122
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: Men Thompson one of my favorite players to watch.

1123
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: He had a good game last game.

1124
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, really good game. More or less than seventeen and

1125
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: a half points.

1126
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go last time. How much I'll go First,

1127
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less.

1128
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go less.

1129
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 6: I like what our man's been doing. He had a

1130
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 6: twenty point ball game the last time. My song I'm

1131
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 6: gonna go more, I'm going less.

1132
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: I think the twenty eight was a good night.

1133
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: Prize Picks is having fun with us because he just

1134
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: had that nice game. They trying to rope you in. Yeah,

1135
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna fall for the gas what I'm saying.

1136
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: So I think he had a good game. Now it's

1137
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: like he's gonna come back down to life and get

1138
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: his like a little twelve to fourteen real be right

1139
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: at fourteen. So let's get into some rankings really quickly, y'all.

1140
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: With Jeff TG and the homies.

1141
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: UH.

1142
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: They said that Donovan Mitchell is the best two guard

1143
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Anthony Edwards is number two. Teque says

1144
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: that A has the personality and the aura and the

1145
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: and the swagger, but Spider Mitchell makes it look easier

1146
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: than AE.

1147
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Who's the best two guarden. Who's the best two guard

1148
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: in the league.

1149
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 6: Guys, for me, there's only one guy on this list

1150
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 6: that UH.

1151
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 5: Is an NBA champion the Finals MVP and he's playing

1152
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 5: without quote unquote what some would say, it's their best player,

1153
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 5: and he's been dominant I'm going with Jaylen Brown. That's

1154
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 5: not a bad He can do it on both ends.

1155
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 5: We already know how he is defensively. Well, we haven't

1156
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 5: known about Jayleen Brown.

1157
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: Is it.

1158
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 5: Can he be a number one option And he's showing

1159
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 5: that this year because every time I look up when

1160
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 5: I lose, he's around the thirty point mark every night.

1161
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm shocked you picked the Celtics.

1162
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 6: That's crazy. I mean, I just explain to you why.

1163
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 4: Now he's getting bucks. He's getting bucks. I like Donn

1164
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: a lot, but I don't think he's the best two

1165
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 4: guard in the league. And I think he has on

1166
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: his own taking a step back because he didn't have

1167
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 4: to do as much with Darius and the emergence of

1168
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: Evan Mobley. Like, he can score, and he can do

1169
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: it efficiently and he's good. But again, I think the

1170
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 4: other guys are probably better two way guys.

1171
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm say. Jaln's probably a better two

1172
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 3: way guy.

1173
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 4: But for me, I think that the purest scorer out there,

1174
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: and he has been to the finals, he hasn't won one,

1175
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: But to me, the pure score is probably booked mm hmm.

1176
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: But Ae, I think Ae and Book are the same conversation.

1177
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 4: For me, I like Anthony Edwards, but I just think

1178
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 4: he needs more consistency, more maturity. He's getting there. He's

1179
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: the more exciting, He's the most exciting two guard, but

1180
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: I think the most polished one.

1181
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with Book.

1182
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Edwards is the best two guard in

1183
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: the league.

1184
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: I think he's the He's the only guy on this

1185
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: list that defenses in the playoffs like he puts defenses

1186
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: in distress when he has the ball, and like these

1187
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: other guys, like team's got a game plan for you,

1188
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: but it did not in panic mold when Donovan Mitchell

1189
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: has the ball and and then defensively.

1190
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: He's a good player.

1191
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 4: He is, but there was times maybe this was finched,

1192
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 4: but there was times it was just easy to double

1193
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 4: him and get the ball out of his hand and

1194
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: he would not get it back. So like they were

1195
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: one of or worst teams in fourth quarter or in

1196
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 4: the clutch and fourth quarter point like I think, I.

1197
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: Think that speaks to his dominance that guys or blitzing

1198
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: the man half.

1199
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 4: Lucas gonna find yoga there, you would have you would

1200
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: have conversation, you find a way, Michael Jeffrey Jordan was

1201
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 4: gonna find way like I.

1202
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: Can't just give given to the defense.

1203
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that.

1204
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: I feel like book was.

1205
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: Still Booker's your number one.

1206
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: I feel like he's more polished, so he's your number

1207
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: one one.

1208
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown Anthony Edwards that I love that we disagree

1209
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: on that.

1210
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 6: I mean, it's only one of the out of one

1211
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 6: all of them. It's only one champ.

1212
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, true the finals. I'm great in that series.

1213
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: He literally was.

1214
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: It's a good argument.

1215
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: It's a good argument.

1216
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 6: It's a good and what he's showing.

1217
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: Now, let's get into the Mount Rushmore now shooting you

1218
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 2: guys to pick your Mount Rushmore to the four best

1219
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: shooting guards ever. Wow, I think there's two guys that

1220
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: are obviously we don't even need to have the discussion.

1221
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: Mike and Kobe's discussion has nothing to even talk about.

1222
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: The next two is gonna be tough, bro yah Ai

1223
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: in there shooting hard all time.

1224
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: So I think d Wade, honestly.

1225
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: You can put pencil then, I think I think d

1226
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: Wade for me is he's definitely he's in there. He's

1227
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: in there. So he's got three championships, three championships.

1228
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: One finals, MVP, eleven All Stars.

1229
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the top seventy five times, So that fourth one

1230
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: all NB as.

1231
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 6: Bro It's not even the hardest, it's not.

1232
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: Wow. So you don't even have to consider James Harden.

1233
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: I'm just going off, Like I saw Allen Iverson carry

1234
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 5: a team to the finals that was like, had no

1235
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 5: business being in the finals.

1236
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: Okay, but they had a defensive player year six minute year,

1237
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: like that was the year they had all those guys.

1238
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: No out the East.

1239
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 6: I played agains these guys like the next year was.

1240
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 4: The strong strong, That's what I'm saying. So they came

1241
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: out these they didn't. They got swept in the finals,

1242
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 4: but they they could that. I'm wondering what the playoff

1243
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 4: match they played. He couldn't like, but he's blocking shots.

1244
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 5: Blocking shots, and rest in peace to Matombo. But Tombo

1245
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 5: couldn't score the ball at all. Okay, And then who

1246
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 5: is the second best player? Was the second best player? Yes,

1247
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 5: he was a All Star. He was the defensive player

1248
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 5: of the year six many years.

1249
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 3: Was was mcke and key Okay, George, they had they

1250
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: had to play against guy guy again.

1251
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 5: Solid, they were solid. They were like rough necks. No,

1252
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 5: they were built on defense, and Iverson carried them. He

1253
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 5: had to go for fifty and sixty for them to win.

1254
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: Okay, But again, also like the opponents he went through,

1255
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 4: Vince didn't have nobody Like the playoffs, they went through

1256
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 4: the Toronto's Vince, they had nobody on it.

1257
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: It was them too. They were like, did they go

1258
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: seven games in that series?

1259
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: Vince? Vince on this list for you?

1260
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 4: I like Vince, but I'm going Rgie Miller because I'm biased.

1261
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 4: I played against him. I'm going James because I think

1262
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 4: he's one of the hardest guys I ever lace up

1263
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 4: the like lace him up. He's one of the best

1264
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: scorers of the game. Now, his resume in the playoffs

1265
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 4: and winning may not be there a a I ain't

1266
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 4: won one yet either, But James was one of the

1267
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 4: coldest mother fuckers.

1268
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: It's about winning for you.

1269
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 6: How do you help your team win?

1270
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 5: Like, I don't like James is an amazing player, Tracy

1271
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 5: Vince amazing players. But I saw Iverson gets to the

1272
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 5: finals and get a win. Yeah, like versus the Lakers,

1273
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 5: that one loss the whole playoffs.

1274
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: That's the only only team to get one loss and

1275
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 3: they scored like fifty on them or something.

1276
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I just think Harden's production is just underappreciated, Like.

1277
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: And he's transitioned into two different.

1278
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: Production is, especially during the Houston years, where like you

1279
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: can pencil him in for fifty wins every year just

1280
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: because Harden was out there with.

1281
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: Compella. No, these teams are not that good.

1282
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: Don't matter if it's Compella, don't matter if it's Howard,

1283
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: don't matter if it's you know, they got Chris Paul

1284
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: that one year when Chris Paul still his body was

1285
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: still cooperating, they won sixty four games. Like they took

1286
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: they took kat and them to the brink seven games. Okay,

1287
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: the Warriors, Katie probably the best team we've ever.

1288
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: Seen list to this though, So let's look at this

1289
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: list right, take all of their regular season out judge

1290
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 5: them this on playoffs.

1291
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: I think I think that's not the question, though, regul

1292
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 3: this is where the This.

1293
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 5: Is where you become that guy in the playoffs, right,

1294
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 5: Ain't that where you become the guy?

1295
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 6: Why is Jordan the best ever?

1296
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 5: Because what he did in the playoffs in the finals,

1297
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 5: and why Coleby because he got five rings. Yeah, like, okay,

1298
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 5: why d Waye because he got three chips? What he

1299
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 5: did the playoffs? So let's take the regular season now

1300
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 5: out and talk playoffs.

1301
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Who you got playoff resume?

1302
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: I get why AI playoff first?

1303
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, Ray will have an argument. You can

1304
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 5: throw Thomson already have an argument. And so lit's like,

1305
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 5: come on when the chips fall down and say let's

1306
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 5: get to it. We're in the foxhole. Who want to

1307
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 5: get down? Who who's going home and who's not? I'm

1308
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 5: trying to get I got kids at home. Who's going

1309
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 5: to help me get home?

1310
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: So this goes back to this goes back to the

1311
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 4: same question that we had, like when we had the

1312
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: KDE Steph come you asking for the game for your life?

1313
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: You're picking step that my life, Harden in his prime

1314
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: or AI the step Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're asking that.

1315
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: That's that's a gooffer question though two hard and m

1316
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: v P versus O one iverson again. No, you could be,

1317
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 3: you could be a better player, but not my class.

1318
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: Would be hardened.

1319
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 6: Bro, I don't respect your opinion.

1320
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: So we got to tell him the game that my

1321
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: life and not his.

1322
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: He might usually wait for your life you're picking James

1323
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: over A.

1324
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 4: Probably probably, I think that's a different question though, Like probably,

1325
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: I feel like A is probably more clutch than James,

1326
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 4: especially in that setting in the playoffs.

1327
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 3: But I think James was the.

1328
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: Better overall players, more production.

1329
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: Just like when you said Kate and step I think

1330
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 3: is not more efficient.

1331
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 5: Bas we're talking about that, We're not talking about overall

1332
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 5: your impact on winning. Because we want to talk about

1333
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 5: an overall player, then we got Michael Jordan, Kobe, Tracy McGrady.

1334
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 6: If you want to just talk about the player.

1335
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, there also the body of work.

1336
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 1: Asking chat G B T to break the tide for us.

1337
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 4: Full this is a different question for your life. I'm

1338
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 4: not I would pick Ai, but for Mount rushmore.

1339
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 5: A eight postseasons, twenty nine a game in the play

1340
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 5: I'm done with this conversation.

1341
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 6: I'm done for this conversation.

1342
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of it.

1343
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 6: I'm done with this conversation with y'all.

1344
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: But look at that James has played in one hundred

1345
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: and seventy three.

1346
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 3: Playoffs, double the postseason. Sixteen postseasons.

1347
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: He's played in one hundred seventy three playoff games. That's

1348
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: the type of teams that he's nade those kind of teams.

1349
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: He's never missed the playoffs. I don't think.

1350
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: But AI averages thirty in the playoffs is kind of crazy.

1351
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,479
Speaker 4: He has fourteen seasons as missed the playoffs with six times.

1352
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 4: James has never missed the playoffs sixteen seasons.

1353
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 6: Hey man, I'm taking James James.

1354
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 4: I'm taking James for the Mount Roshvelle. But Ai in

1355
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 4: a clutch situation, I'm probably taking Ai for like the

1356
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: game for my life.

1357
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

1358
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 4: I'll probably go, yeah, like that's that's a different question.

1359
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: It's a different conversation.

1360
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 6: The four guys a game for your life right here?

1361
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: Who Jordan's got to put it right in that conversation honestly,

1362
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: when it comes to being clutch.

1363
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: Game for your life at all of.

1364
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 6: Them or just for the fourth Kobe and Jordan's out

1365
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 6: the Game for your life? Who you're taking? Oh, d

1366
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 6: Wade Okay, d Wade out? Uh yeah.

1367
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 5: We're talking about in their prime though, in their prime

1368
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 5: right now today when on the counch, No, no, you

1369
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 5: want me to take the game for your you're.

1370
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: A dead man.

1371
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm going with Tracy McGrady Honestly, Chasey McGrady,

1372
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: I think at his peak before the injuries, like you

1373
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: can put him with all of these guys.

1374
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 4: Honestly, yo, Clay might have an argument, like I'm going

1375
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: to Tracy evensil Clay, and I'm looking at Clay because

1376
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 4: Game six, Clay bro.

1377
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: Clay was very clutch, serious, serious, serious. Postseason was very clutch,

1378
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: and Clay used to strap people up. That's an other

1379
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: thing we forget about Clay. He was their best perimitive defender.

1380
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 4: But I'm probably going Tracy Tracy. I'm probably going Tracy,

1381
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 4: but Clay has a good.

1382
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: Tracy had his best six nine handle threes, dunks, defense, rebounding.

1383
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: Like the guy was incredible. That's good.

1384
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: Twenty nine playoff series.

1385
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

1386
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 4: Crazy thing is like his probably the last couple his

1387
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 4: point production dropped because of the last Just if you

1388
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 4: just take like he probably have been right there with Tracy.

1389
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: Man, you would have thought there would have been like

1390
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 2: way more great shooting guards.

1391
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: In the league's history.

1392
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 4: Nobody, like nobody even talked about Clyde like Clyde was

1393
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: the Clyde was back in the day. Not in the

1394
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 4: top four, but he was still very good. Though even

1395
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: even Iceman man George Love Nice.

1396
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 6: We gotta go back and do our research.

1397
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: We got Yeah, we gotta get some NBA Classic games

1398
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: up and figure that out on YouTube. We're gonna get

1399
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: into some fan questions. Uh oh, I like this question.

1400
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Scottie Pippen's play in basketball history?

1401
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 3: What do they play something?

1402
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I feel like there's I think

1403
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: people take two stances. Some people think he's overrated, some

1404
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: people think he's underrated.

1405
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: There's no in between.

1406
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: The Scotti Yeah, some people like Mike carry them and

1407
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: other people like bro like they won six championships because

1408
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: they were good players.

1409
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 4: On this for sure, and because of Scotti, And there

1410
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: was when even Mike left Scotti, they did pretty.

1411
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 5: I thought Scottie Pippen was the second best player in

1412
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 5: the league when they were winning it all, especially in

1413
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 5: the second three p Yeah, I had the second best

1414
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 5: player in the league.

1415
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had.

1416
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 4: I had him like top five, top ten, because I

1417
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: mean you get those years that he played Chuck when

1418
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 4: he was m VP, like they like Mike had to

1419
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 4: go through Orlando and they had to go through Houston

1420
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 4: alchem O Lodge, like it was like Kim has something like,

1421
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 4: So Scotty was definitely top five, top ten most of

1422
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: his prime years. He's top five, top ten. He didn't

1423
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 4: get paid like it during that time. Yeah, but in history,

1424
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 4: they didn't have him at the top seventy five. They

1425
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 4: had him the top seventy five.

1426
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, he blows.

1427
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, I think he's falls victim

1428
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: to the bucket loving nature of our society because like.

1429
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 6: He was outside of buckets, he was all around.

1430
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like the way they used.

1431
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: To harass people in the back court, like the defensively

1432
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: made him and Mike that was just some scary ship.

1433
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: Was Dennis.

1434
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: Historically underrated?

1435
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

1436
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 4: It's also hard to rank certain guys because of how

1437
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 4: good their team was. You know what I'm saying, Like

1438
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 4: he was, Draymond is gonna be held in a higher

1439
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 4: not saying Draymond's not a great defensive player.

1440
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: He's gonna be held in a higher regard because.

1441
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: Because he played on such big, great team.

1442
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like he can he

1443
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 4: mean a conversation with Dennis Robin because they had some

1444
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: of the great defensive teams. Now, if you ask an

1445
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 4: older guy is Draymond Like Dennis Robbin, Most guys be like,

1446
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like Dennis was a machine

1447
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 4: twenty like twenty rebounds, don't care about he was getting

1448
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 4: twenty rebounds and the best player gardener, gardener guards.

1449
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1450
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, so insane defensive player shouts this size fifteen shoe.

1451
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Pause. That's a crazy name though it's Dylan. This is

1452
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,959
Speaker 1: for both of you, guys.

1453
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: Could you name a player on one of your teams

1454
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: who didn't get you didn't play that much, but you

1455
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: thought was really underrated.

1456
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's a great question. Playing much like that that

1457
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 3: doesn't didn't get the opportunity to.

1458
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: Play like they got crazy rotation minutes, but you were like, oh,

1459
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: this is a tough player.

1460
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 6: Damn.

1461
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. I feel like there's one on

1462
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 4: every team that you.

1463
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 6: You like on at some point, well, I think I

1464
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 6: have to say, Okay.

1465
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: So who's the most appreciated guys you played with?

1466
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: You feel like they're like nobody ever asked you about,

1467
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: but you're like, Noah, they was, they were really good.

1468
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 6: I'll probably throw like Eddie House in there.

1469
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he made big shots for US Eddie House, Big

1470
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: Baby had somebody one of those Eddie.

1471
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 6: House get Eddie House love on that.

1472
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: I love that.

1473
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 4: That's tough, man, because I feel like every guy that

1474
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 4: I played with that was underrated at.

1475
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: The time has emerged afterwards.

1476
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1477
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like in Toronto had Norm and Fred for US

1478
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 4: and Og didn't play for US. O G, yeah, he

1479
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 4: was just on the tournament. What I'm saying, like, yeah,

1480
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 4: it's crazy.

1481
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: And l A.

1482
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 4: We just had everybody that was already kind of established.

1483
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 4: Every Bradley Ox Creuse, Okay, we had Cools, we had Rondo,

1484
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 4: we had a stacked team, gotch Ca c P was

1485
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: there myself. We had defensive rugging, javel A d Dwight

1486
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 4: that the bigs, bron they all pretty much established.

1487
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: Fred got paid, o G got paid, Norm got paid

1488
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: Norm them they made an All Star team last year.

1489
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

1490
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 4: I don't have to go back way San Antonio, like

1491
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: thinking of like Jonathan Simmons, he got some, but then

1492
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 4: he left and got paid with to Orlando.

1493
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 6: Gotcha he came And I remember Johnson out there Atletic

1494
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 6: out there, he was playing.

1495
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah on.

1496
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 4: Athletic, go like defend a little bit balling but I'm

1497
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 4: trying to think of, like there's anybody else that in

1498
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 4: San Antonio. So Patty he made name for himself because

1499
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 4: Patty was underrated, but that he had a long career. Yeah,

1500
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 4: Corey Joseph when he played some other someone else and

1501
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 4: played pretty well. Yeah, that's that's tough.

1502
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: One love that.

1503
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to close by sharing with you a KG.

1504
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: Story that I had. You got one, Yeah, okay, So

1505
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: it's Martin Luther King day. I want to say twenty nineteen. Yeah,

1506
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: I think it's like twenty nineteen. And my older cousin,

1507
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 2: who like works in the music industry, like doing this

1508
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: thing with up Nod and one of his coworkers at

1509
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: the time take us to the Soul House in Malibu.

1510
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: So for people that.

1511
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: Don't know, you can get a Soul House member, but

1512
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: the Malibu one is his own situation, super different. So

1513
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm the last person to walk in and my cousin

1514
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: he kind of turns the corner, and mind you, he's

1515
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: a Boston Celtics fanatic, so he turns the corner. Kg's

1516
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: sitting there. It's like a little bar, little thing right

1517
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: there when you first make that left, and I'm in

1518
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: the back. So I'm just watching KG and he is

1519
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: ice grilling. He like ice grilling my cousin, like, because

1520
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: you know, whats so it's not a lot of negroes

1521
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: in there. So he's eyes and it's like it's like

1522
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: a decently long walk and he's just like looking at us,

1523
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: like and if my cousin not realizing that KG was

1524
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: ice creaming him, he just goes, what's up?

1525
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: KG? Like he kind of dropped it, just like what

1526
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: up whatever.

1527
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: I was like cool afterwards, but that story stuck in

1528
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: my head because I'm like, yo, this motherfucker doesn't.

1529
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: Turn it off in the so he was ready.

1530
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 6: He was on go right for sure.

1531
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,480
Speaker 1: You remember about first meeting KG.

1532
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 6: Well, I met KG when I was in high school.

1533
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 5: You know, he has stayed at my house because my

1534
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 5: AU coach flew out the South Carolina and recruited him

1535
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 5: to play in the tournament with me.

1536
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 6: Oh wow, when we were like fifteen sixteen years old.

1537
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 5: Like he stayed like that absolutely, so yeah, but he

1538
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 5: was a country kid, you know before you know, he

1539
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 5: got like a piece of Chicago in him. He was like,

1540
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 5: you know, kind of like country kid, and you know

1541
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 5: I was a city kid. So it was kind of different.

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01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 5: And I remember taking him out on Chrisshawn Sunday. If

1543
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 5: you know about l A, you know, we wrote a

1544
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 5: show where it's kind of like, you know, it's it

1545
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 5: ain't the safest thing that like.

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 6: He looking like what is this?

1547
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 5: I'm like this Like Christian, He's like what is this?

1548
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 5: He looking like, man, this is people out. There's just

1549
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 5: people in the street, you know. So it was just like,

1550
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 5: oh man, just to see the face.

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01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 4: Was he always I heard, like because when he's on

1552
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: the floor, he said, there was games, y'all don't acknowledge people,

1553
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 4: y'all would be locked in, don't say it up and

1554
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 4: he acts like he don't know who someone is. But

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01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 4: in the locker room I heard he was. He very

1556
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 4: locked in on personnel, knew everybody what they could do.

1557
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 3: Was that a true? Like he knew the roster, like

1558
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 3: he watched basketball.

1559
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Like you really couldn't talk too much to KG

1561
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 5: before the game because he's so locked in and zoned

1562
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 5: in like he's gonna be in this in his locker,

1563
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 5: head down, drenched from his workout and just kind of

1564
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 5: like zoned like, you know. My first communication with him

1565
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 5: was probably when we stepped on the court for layup

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01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 5: line something like.

1567
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 6: That or maybe and then I'll catch him getting taped.

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01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 5: But like we had our take time, so you know,

1569
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 5: but like my first communication will be like right when

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 5: we get in a layup line or something.

1571
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 6: But like he was laser focused.

1572
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: I love that man shouts to kg uh just the

1573
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: super legend because of that. So I was like, Bro,

1574
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 2: this is so crazy.

1575
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 3: He's on guard case, so whole house in Malibu.

1576
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: Bro, it's like Obama goes there.

1577
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: You know what I matter, He's doing it.

1578
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Anyway, man, that was our show for today.

1579
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Speaker 2: Apple Music, Spotify, leave a review that really get a shot.

1583
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: Up the rankings.

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01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: Man, it really help us out. So we will see

1585
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: you guys next time. Peace out, y'all.

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