1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: It's my birthday month. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: March birthday. Kelly. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Actually when this podcast comes out, it will be the 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: day after my birthday. So we're just going, wow, well, 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: I know a little ahead of time, but it's cancer season. 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: That's kind of like after the new Moon, ain't it. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: I guess I was gonna ask you soon the new 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: moon's in cancer? What day is the new moon? 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: It's Wednesday, July seventeenth, on a Monday. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's the next week, okay, because this will come 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: out July twelfth, the day after my birthday. And we're 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: talking today about the new moon cancer. And we were 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: just mentioning venus retrograde because I was telling you I 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: have been reading so much about this retrograde, just you know, 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: like news articles or people have fall on Instagram and 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: everything about venus retrograde is like that I've been reading 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: is a little bit doomsday for relationships. It's like, expect 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: a lot of breakups, divorces, all these things. And when 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: I got your outline about it, it put me a 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: little bit at ease to why venus retrograde is here, 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: what it's going to do for us, and what's going 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: to bring up in just a little bit more of 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: a positive light than like dun, dun, dun, your relationships 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: are fucked. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I'm a lot more positive than 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: and a lot of the uh astrological predictions. 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: You always seem to there's a purpose in all of 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: it for us, and so I think that's exactly. 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 3: And if you know the purpose, well then no matter 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: what's it acceptable right right? If you want to work 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: with the energy instead of against the energy, well then 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: it can't be too catastrophic. 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: Right exactly. And it just puts us. I think when 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: I look at the things that I'm like, oh, oh 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: my gosh, it's going to be mercury retrogade or anything 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: like that, all that I sense myself starting to do 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: is kind of panicking thinking about things that I can't 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: actually try. I can't control, but I do still try 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: to control them. And it's all things that I'm wasting 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: my energy on because it's going to happen anyway, as 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: you already say, it's already mapped out. So that's what 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about a little bit today. Do 45 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: we want to start with the new moon and cancer? 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: Why sure, let's start with Okay, Well, I mean, you know, 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: I didn't feel like going I didn't feel like it 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: was necessary to go back into all the emotional crap 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 4: and all of that. 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we all know that cancer is the most 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: emotional sign in the zodiac. 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Correct. 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, if you didn't have emotions, 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: what a shitty life it would be? Right? 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I can't have what we were just. 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: Like animals and we just operated on instinct alone. We 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: wouldn't have no effort lessence, we wouldn't have no joys. 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: How can you? How can you have the joy and 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: the venus and all the wonderful things and the beauty 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: and all in life if you didn't have emotions? 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: Right? 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: Right? The only thing is that you've got to be 63 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: able to h control the negative emotions and operate in 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: the moment without getting all you know, whacked out in 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: sideways emotionally because of because those emotions are all coming 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: out of the past. 67 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: Anyway, as we move on, I just like this moon 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: because it's a calling and it's a it's a sense 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: of personal destiny and that falls into that, you know, 71 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: passionate sense of things, and I think that it's really 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: important that we look at I mean, we all realize 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: we have a sense of sense of purpose in life 74 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form, and this moon will 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: help us to really lock in that passion inside, that 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: emotional side of you know, what we want to accomplish 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: and do I mean, you know, I like, I love 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: the line daring to live the life as a grand adventure. 79 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: I mean, if we're always on an adventure. I mean, 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, how wonderful is that? I mean, you know, 81 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: so you know, the the chart itself is is a 82 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: little bit tough because we we've got a a couple 83 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: of different things going on there. That's a little complex. 84 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: You mean at the same time as this new moon. 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but I mean, you know, but we've we've 86 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: we're going to have some conflicts between how we handle 87 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: our personal need needs versus how much we serve others. 88 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a bigger problem. Or feel like our obligations. 89 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: You know, anytime have you feel like you're giving out 90 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: more than you're getting back. That's a real problem. Yeah, 91 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that causes people a lot of problems, and 92 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: it's a lifelong problem with some people for sure. I mean, 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: you know, we don't understand how to have that balanced 94 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: approach to fulfilling one's responsibilities but also having personal enjoyment 95 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: and fulfillment ourselves. I mean it has to be an 96 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: equal expression, and that means this has got to be 97 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: a positive self esteem. I mean, I feel good enough 98 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: about me to go out and enjoy the world, but 99 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: when I have responsibilities, I enjoy the responsibilities as well. 100 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: And so I think that that's going to be a 101 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: little bit of a challenge during this cancer new Moon 102 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: is to look this month at how are we serving 103 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: ourselves and others in kind of a balanced way. And 104 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: then we have a sense of we're needing. There's a 105 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: little bit of a frustration in the fact that we were. 106 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 3: There's a lot of sensitivity that we can sometimes feel 107 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: around people. I mean you and you know what that means, 108 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: And so we can easily become victim to other people's situations, 109 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: and uh that keeps us away from going forward and 110 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: making positive developments in our own life. When we feel 111 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: like we're all wrapped up in other people's gunk and 112 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: stuff and we have this oversensity, we might even feel 113 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: a little guilt because of what we're you know, you 114 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: know about what's going on with them and we're not 115 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: doing enough to help them and all of that. You know, 116 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: we've got to really understand that that causes a negative 117 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: result when we overindulge somebody else's problems and then actually 118 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: don't don't take care of ourselves again. 119 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: Right, you wanted to do the therapy lingo on that 120 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: that would be codependent? 121 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why? Why? I mean, you know, if you want 122 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: to be a therapist, be a therapist. But even a 123 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: therapist has limitations on how much they're going to rescue. 124 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: There's going to be a little bit of a rescue 125 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: feeling to this, uh in this new moon. 126 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: And trying to get out of that dynamic. Is that 127 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: what you're saying? Like or. 128 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: But because it's a it's a Saturn mars in virgo 129 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: and and it's a Pisces Virgo issue. I mean, you know, 130 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: Virgos are always able to break things down into the 131 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: details and the problems and then fix. And they got 132 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: a sense of wanting to fix things, and they want 133 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: to fix things to get the feedback that if I 134 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 3: fix you, you'll love me. That's kind of the metaphor for 135 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: a lot of what Burgo goes through. And so it's 136 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: going to be a real challenge in realizing that we 137 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: to lift the burden from the one they're supposed to carry, 138 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: it is a greater sin. Everybody's got their own tools, 139 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: everybody has their own connection to spirit to be able 140 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: to fix the problems that they're in, no matter what 141 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: they are. So I think that it's you've got to 142 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: be very careful this month in trying to fix people 143 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: or fixed situations. 144 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: That is hitting the nail head for me. 145 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: And then of course, I mean, you know, there's a 146 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: nodal aspect to this which is very karmic and it's Arees. 147 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: Libra and Aries is very self assertive, self dynamic, and progressive, 148 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: and Libra is always about leaning on depending on others 149 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: and relationships. So we got to be careful to not 150 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: get caught up in allowing others to make decisions, to 151 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: be supportive of our own needs, we got to be 152 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: more aggressive and assertive to go go get what it 153 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: is that we want, what we need, and so that's 154 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: very important. So you may find some people that's trying 155 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: to trying to lean on you, or you may be 156 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: catching yourself, trying to lean on somebody else to get 157 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: rid of your own problems. And that's part of that 158 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: whole dynamic of a saturn ours that I just discussed. 159 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: So we got to take care of ourselves first. And 160 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: let's look and if before we can love and give 161 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: ourself away, we have to have a self to give away. 162 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: So if we don't build a good, strong sense of 163 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: self esteem and against the self worth, why the hell 164 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: would anybody want us? 165 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: Right? But the trick is, or this has been the 166 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: story of my life at least, like whenever if I don't, 167 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: if I have an empty camp cup and I'm still 168 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 2: trying to give, it goes back into that place. It 169 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: kind of ties back into what you're just saying. Then 170 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing all the work to try to fix them, 171 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: to earn my place in their life, to earn love, 172 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: to like, to earn my worth or whatever. And it's 173 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: not actually giving, it's caretaking. And like people using. 174 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: You're using the perfect word earn. Right, I don't have 175 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: to earn anything from anybody. If you like me, you 176 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: like me for authentically who I am. Now, if I've 177 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: got to earn it, it means I've got to put 178 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: out effort to get you to like me for who 179 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: I am. Well, that don't work, Yeah, any in any 180 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: relationship or capacity. Yeah, so I think that that's a 181 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: perfect word that you're using here. You don't you don't 182 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: earn respect, you don't earn love, you don't earn friendship. 183 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: What do you mean how do you not earn love 184 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: and respect or trust and respect? 185 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: Darling? I love you just because of who you are. 186 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: I don't need you to be anything other than who 187 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: you are. 188 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: But the trust and respect thing feels different to me 189 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: a little bit. 190 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: No, Like what, Well, why respect is earned? What respect 191 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: is earned? Because I'm a I respect myself and I 192 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: respect who I am and I respect others. That means 193 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: that that's that's an attractive attribute of who I am authentically. 194 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: Right, But you're so you're saying who you are authentically 195 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: has certain behaviors that then earns respect and trust from 196 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: others just by you being you. 197 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well, well, I mean you love me or 198 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: hate me, and I've got clients on both sides. 199 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: Right, that's true, I do. Yeah, I think I heard 200 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: when you first said you can't earn trust or respect 201 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: it through me because I think certain behaviors do earn 202 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: trust and respect in relationships, and then certain behaviors can 203 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: lose it too. But it doesn't mean changing who you 204 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: actually are. 205 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have to try to be something. I mean, 206 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 3: that's you know, all that's doing is you're just suppressing 207 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: who you really truly are so that you could get 208 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: this person to be to think of you the way 209 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: you want them to think of you. That ain't being authentic. 210 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that makes more sense to me. 211 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: So that kind of leads us into you know this, 212 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: this whole Venus retrograde cycle, doesn't Yeah, yeah, I mean 213 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: basically we've been talking about values at nauseam for how 214 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: long now, I mean months? Couple of months? Okay, Well, 215 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: now we finally got to the energy and planet of 216 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: beauty and love and joy and happiness and values and 217 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 3: the way I like people to understand Taurus. And it's 218 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: got a dual rulership. It's it rules Taurus and Libra. 219 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: But understanding Taurus really brings what what what Libra energy 220 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: is all about? You know, when we go out, when 221 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: you start with the zodiac of airres Ares is the explore, 222 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: the adventurer. I mean, you move out you're not thinking 223 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: about what you're doing, You're just going as a discoverer. Well, 224 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: I usually use the Clarson the Lewis and Clark Expedition. 225 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: And so when Lewis and Clark's the Adventurers set out 226 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: to discover the new territory, well, they had to find 227 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: places that was beautiful that they wanted to set down 228 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: roots that they love. It's like you know, when you 229 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: go to buy a house, you go about, you know, 230 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: fifteen different homes. What are you looking for? You're looking 231 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: for something that's beautiful to you, that you love that 232 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: you want to now decorate and and take care of. 233 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:10,479 Speaker 3: So Tarus and Venus and is all about that beautification 234 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: of our life. And it's about the experience of being 235 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: in this world and enjoying what this world has to offer, 236 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: which brings us into values because I value what is 237 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: beautiful to me and what I love, and that brings 238 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: me joy, and that brings me objectivity by virtue of 239 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: what I'm love and enjoy. 240 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So. 241 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: Libra and tars is also about having the resources, the 242 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: talents and abilities of survival. So when I discover this 243 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: new land or this new new place, I have to 244 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: have resources and tools to make it home, to make 245 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: it safe, to make it secure. It has to have 246 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: values because so there's a self worth in the things 247 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: that we find beauty and love in. That makes sense. 248 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that does make sense. 249 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: And so you know when we when when we have 250 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: a venus retrograde, it's like any other retrograde. It's uh, 251 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: it's about teaching us about those values, about those relationships 252 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: that we have in our life. Whether it's a relationship 253 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: to a house or a relationship to a human being, 254 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: all those things are reflective of who we are. Are 255 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: they not? Yes? 256 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: And I think like one point I want you to 257 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: make quickly before we keep going into the retrograde piece 258 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: of this is I think as a culture, in the 259 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: pop culture version of astrology, and you know, and I've talked 260 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: about this around mercury is retrograde has looked at as 261 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: like so negative. And you've taught me more about it's 262 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: kind of more this time to pause and reflect and 263 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily like bad things are going to happen, 264 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 2: but it might bring things to the surface that are 265 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: still there to be worked on. Can you kind of 266 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit? 267 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, basically, when you're looking at a venus retrograde, 268 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 3: you are doing some reevaluation. You are looking at In 269 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: other words, the way we talked about it in astrology 270 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: is an energy is always moving forward. Well, when consciousness 271 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: can no longer get to that next point, it's like 272 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: the retrograde says, okay, well let's back up and go 273 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: get where the actual planet is going to go direct 274 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: to get a new perspective, to get a new perception, 275 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: to get a new understanding about what's important our the 276 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: beauty and I always brought up my own word. I 277 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: think it's just what's important, what's important in our life? Yeah, 278 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: because what's important in your life, you're going to nurture, 279 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: you're going to take care of it, you're going to 280 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: love it. And that's kind of what that retrograde is. 281 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: It's a process of redefining, reevaluating our values and the 282 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: values of the relationships that we're in. Now. You know, 283 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: if you want to use it as a negative, I 284 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: mean you know you can say, well, I'm in a 285 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: bad relationship. Well, a retrograde venus is just going to 286 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: get you to realize that why are you in a 287 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: bad relationship? Why have you created a relationship that that 288 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: actually you're saying it's bad, but it's going on inside 289 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 3: of you, because a relationship is doing the job of 290 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: objectifying who what's going on inside of you? 291 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: Right, So that's that's the point about people saying, well, 292 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: there might be a lot of breakup in divorces, but 293 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: it's not like this retrograde is causing that. It's just 294 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: shining lights on maybe relationships that aren't serving you anymore 295 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: and bringing that to the surface. So as what you're 296 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 2: saying is like to either figure out what's going on 297 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: with you that's keeping you in this relationship, or why 298 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: you would choose a relationship like that, or. 299 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: Or maybe how you have not been giving to the 300 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: relationship honestly or that fully Now you're not communicating honestly 301 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: and truthfully of what's important to you. No what, I 302 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: rarely rarely see a divorce and a problem with relationships 303 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 3: when Venus is retrograde. Yeah, I see that come in 304 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: when it's Jupiter or Uranis or Saturn where the realities 305 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: are bumping up against each others. But I don't see 306 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: it with a Venus retrograde. Venus retrograde is just going 307 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: to say, you know what, I recognize this in a 308 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 3: little bit different perspective, and I'm seeing how maybe I 309 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: could change that would help change my attitudes, change change 310 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: what's important to me. I mean, you can have a 311 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: very important relationship that's with a Venus retrograde and say, 312 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not giving enough honestly to the 313 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: relationship or I'm not getting from the relationship what I want. 314 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: And so you's got to be communicated, doesn't it. And 315 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: if it's important enough, you probably will. 316 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: You will. Yeah, So Venus goes retrograde on July twenty third. 317 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: But would we be feeling any of that energy already? 318 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, because it's in its shadow. 319 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought, because everything you're talking about, 320 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm already feeling. 321 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. And of course you know that it's in it's 322 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: going retrograde in Leo, which is probably one of the 323 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: most dynamic signs in the zodiac. So I mean you're 324 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: going to feel a strong sense of self. You're going 325 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: to feel that self directed I mean, you know, Venus 326 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: and Leo don't listen to anybody, right, all right, and 327 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 3: so and they dramatize every emotion that there ever was, 328 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: and but they're also honest and frank and they can 329 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 3: be calculated, but it's also one of the most loyal 330 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: and compassion and affectionate signs there are. So you see 331 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: actually going into a retrograde period to establish well, it's 332 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: leo is love given? If you if you're yes, Leo 333 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: is love given. Aquarious is love received, which is its 334 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: opposite side. Yeah, so we've got we're going to be analyzing. Uh, 335 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: you know, well, are we given as much to the 336 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: relationship as we're getting back? Are we given more? Are 337 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: we not giving that passionate loving self? You know, if 338 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: you're disappointed, what where where's the disappointment come from? Because 339 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: you you realize you're not being honest in the relationship. 340 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: And so I think a lot of those things are 341 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: going to be addressed. I mean, this is in you're 342 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: reevaluating a lot of internal and external values in relationship, 343 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: and so what a venus retrograde is going to do. 344 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: There's going to be a tendency for overreactions and exaggerations 345 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: that are really the reverse of what we're feeling we 346 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: wish to express because we're unsure of our values of 347 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: what's important and so forth. So this is going to 348 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: a retrograde, is actually going to get you into what's 349 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: really important. Okay, Okay, And so when we a lot 350 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: of times with a venus retrograde, we're going to be 351 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: feeling we're going to be feeling some unconscious, uncomfortable feelings 352 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 3: about relationships, uh, and what's important and the needs for 353 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: emotional security. And the problem is is we're going to 354 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: be trying to make corrections that are not really imbalance 355 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: with with who we are, and that cause is an 356 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: even greater imbalance. 357 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: Okay. So basically what I hear is like stuff comes up, 358 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: we get triggered, we react, but it's not necessarily like 359 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: maybe you're it's the thing where you're in a relationship 360 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: and you're arguing over how to load the dishwasher, but 361 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: it's really not about how to load the dishwasher. Yeah 362 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you're like some some real 363 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: shit underneath all of it, but you fix someone put 364 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: a plate in the dishwasher. So I'm hearing just a 365 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: lot of that maybe, So absolutely, what can we do though, 366 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: now that we have this awareness that maybe that's going 367 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: to be coming up. 368 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: It's like anything else in relationships, you have to discover 369 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: what was your and then you have to stake a 370 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 3: responsibility for the intention and the emotion of why you 371 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: responded and reacted an imbalancing way of how to character 372 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: not really how you would have liked to have responded, 373 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: but you're responding unconsciously. It takes about two milliseconds because 374 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: you're being insecure about something that you haven't even recognized yet. 375 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So you find yourself acting out of character 376 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: or like doing something or saying something that you're like, 377 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: why did I say that? I don't even mean that. 378 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: Maybe it's time to sit with yourself for a second 379 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: and look at like what is coming up? Where is 380 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: this coming from? Is it happening? And the thing I 381 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: keep saying to myself because I've had a week of 382 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: just weird triggers and very similar to what you're describing, 383 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: like I'm saying things or I'm doing things, or I'm 384 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: like questioning or trying to control, and I'm like, what 385 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 2: is actually going on now? Is it happening now? Or 386 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: is this old? Like I keep having that sensation of 387 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: just like what is reality now? Or is this something 388 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: that happened in the past. And that seemed to help 389 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: me kind of get to the bottom of some of 390 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 2: the things that have come up, because most of the 391 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 2: time they're really not happening right now. 392 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: Right Well, in negative emotions are just threats to the 393 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 3: subconscious mind. Yeah, so when you respond that a character, 394 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: you're responding to protect. What that should be the question? 395 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: What am I trying to protect here? What am I 396 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: feeling oversensitive about? And actually, as I look at the chart, 397 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: I mean that's exactly what we're going to be bumping 398 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: up against with this retrograde is overreacting to negative conditions. 399 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: It's about too self conscious and fearful. It's about you know, 400 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: we need to dump the ghosts of the past. Yeah, 401 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 3: what what is in the past. It's causing me to 402 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: respond like this to self protect And that's what happens 403 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: when we get ugly or when we get in a 404 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: little fisticuff about within the context of relationships. 405 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting because the more I've learned about 406 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: the way our brains work, Like if we're looking at 407 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: this scientifically, our brains genuinely and I think you would 408 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: probably call this our subconscious mind too, just we'll do 409 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: anything to protect us. So if you've gone through something 410 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: traumatic in the past, all the rewiring is going to 411 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 2: be to not feel that pain again. So everything that 412 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: we're reacting to is actually our body's way of trying 413 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: to keep us safe. It's like a kind thing, but 414 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: it's just not all. It's kind of it can be 415 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: misdirected or it can be off. Like we're saying, some 416 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: of these reactions might be. So it helps me get 417 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: out of shame when I do have a reaction that 418 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: feels out of character to be like, oh, I was 419 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: just really scared, and my body's reaction is to be 420 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: like I don't want to go through that again. So 421 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: it's just like a survival skill and it's just not so. 422 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 3: And it's not necessarily that protection is actually coming out 423 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 3: of the ego. Yeah, the ego is your protection mechanism. Okay, 424 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: the ego, the ego will resist anything that makes you wrong. 425 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 3: Mm okay, and so but what about ego that you're 426 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: bumping up against when you are, you know, finding going 427 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: into that negative response and then the and then the 428 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: body responses actually is uh uh the ego, Well then uh, 429 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: I mean you you you stress or anxiousness, all that's 430 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: triggered out of the gut brain that goes up into 431 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: the subconscious, which then triggers a response of when it 432 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: first learned that threat, maybe when you were five years 433 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: old or six years old, right, Yeah, and that's how 434 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: it works. Yeah, So when the body is responding, you're 435 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: already you're already know that there's something in the past 436 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: a subconscious mind is reacting to. Yeah, but it's the 437 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: ego that that kicked it. 438 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: Off, Okay, because the ego does not want to be 439 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: wrong die exactly. 440 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: It will do everything in its power to make you right. 441 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: And so, I mean, you know, and you got to 442 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: look at some of these chart patterns. I mean, you know, 443 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: we're fighting against an environment right now with all the 444 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: social issues that we're all being confronted with. This is 445 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: this is huge. Yeah, and so we're fighting a lot 446 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: of this inequality and all of that. And so we 447 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: really again, and I know I've said this so many times, 448 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: we've got to listen to some of our inner guidance 449 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: to stay authentic to ourselves instead of getting caught up 450 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: in mob psychology. You know, even a saint cannot escape 451 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: mob psychology. Think of that for a minute. So, I mean, 452 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: you get into a mob, it's pretty hard to get 453 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: out of it because the energy is just so dynamic, 454 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: it's so much right. 455 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean that makes sense to me though, because even 456 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: a saint is a human flake. I think we forget that. 457 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes we put these people in charge of things or 458 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: they're in positions of power, and we assume that they 459 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: should be like not affected, and we all are, we 460 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: all have that capability. 461 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, so Venus the retrograde is saying what really is important? Okay, 462 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: and then we've got to get into alignment with what 463 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: we feel is important, our own emotional truths, and so 464 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: it helps us to discover our desires and versus what 465 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: leads into stagnation. I mean, it really gets us authentically 466 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: into the values of who we really are and what 467 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: we really want to experience as the harmony and the 468 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: peace and the beauty and love in this lifetime. Because 469 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 3: there is no there is no planet that gives you 470 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: that except Venus is a benefit. That's a very beneficial experience. 471 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I love the angel of the 472 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: Angel of success. What do you want in and from 473 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: this journey that's don't be trying. You know, you get 474 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: so many people trying to be spiritual or metaphysical and 475 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm working so hard blah blah, well stop it. How 476 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: about being a human. You're in a human condition. How 477 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: about being human and enjoying all the fruits and the 478 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: bounty and all the things that that mother earth has 479 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: to offer it this time, all the materialism. I mean, 480 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: there's nothing bad in any of the world except if 481 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: we make it bad. So this retrograde is going to 482 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: help us to discover where we're too personally identifying with 483 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 3: other people's troubles. We've got to learn how to have 484 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: loving detachment. Okay, other people's troubles is other people's troubles. 485 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: We give what we can, but we don't become a martyr. 486 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: Are a victim to that circumstance. 487 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is a big one. 488 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: Well that's my point. Yeah, and so when we when 489 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: I looked at the asteroids, remember we talked about that, 490 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: that's the feminine side. We're all going to be struggling 491 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: a little bit with the masculine energies doing this, and 492 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: that's you know, learning to you know, follow our values, 493 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: our drive to accomplish our goals and so forth, and 494 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: they so there so that we can clearly define our 495 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: direction and purpose. 496 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: Okay, that feels like a big theme right now. Is 497 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: just lean Like even the smoon, there seems to be 498 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of that energy of really leaning into 499 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: your own skill set and like why you're here, what 500 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: your purpose is. I think you said playing the hand 501 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 2: ones given skillfully, Like you said that about the new moon. 502 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: So that's like a big energy right now. 503 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: It seems Yeah, well, I mean you know this is 504 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you know that just falls in the line. 505 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: We all have a plan that we're living out, and 506 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 3: it's the plan that we agreed to and it's God's plan. 507 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: We're not going to change the plan. We can accept 508 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: what influences it gives us, formulate an attitude, or we 509 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: can reject it. Yeah, and so I think that it's 510 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: very important to follow through on our commitments and not 511 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: be hoverly aggressive, but certainly asserting what we are trying 512 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 3: to accomplish. 513 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: What is a little bit about what is this autonomous 514 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: self identity? 515 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: Well that's where this comes from. I mean, to think 516 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: about what it's saying there. I mean, we've got to 517 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 3: have enough self esteem that we continue on the path 518 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: that we are on to accomplish what we want to 519 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: accomplish as a person. And so there has to be 520 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 3: a to integrate who we are authentically and when in 521 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: the context of relationships where we want to give to 522 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 3: the other person the assets of who we are, our 523 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: assets of our values, our beauty, our love, and that's uh, 524 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: we we've we're responsible for building to self esteem in 525 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 3: our life that you know, we have, we have our 526 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: sets of values and and what we uh aspire and 527 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: that's what we bring to a relationship. And so that's uh, 528 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 3: that's vesta. And you know, are you bringing to a 529 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: relationship at codependency? Are you bringing to a relationship all 530 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 3: about career and money? Are you bringing to a relationship 531 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 3: being a slug and homebody? Or you bring into a 532 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: relationship the effervescence of a person that's love and enjoying 533 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 3: and wants to merge and wants to have intimacies and 534 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 3: wants to experience the world world, not nothing to suppress 535 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: or hide. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't want to 536 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 3: be in competition with a relationship. I mean, I see 537 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: a lot of that. 538 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 539 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: Well, in other words, you're trying to make sure somebody 540 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: loves you, so you're passive aggressive, or you don't trust 541 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: someone that says I love you, and and so forth. 542 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: So there's trust issues there. Well, who are the trust 543 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 3: issues with yourself? 544 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: Is what I've learned. 545 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it forces you to look at your 546 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: own self trust. It forces you to look at yourself 547 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 3: in a way that are you really being you? Or 548 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 3: are you just trying to do a presentation of you? Right, 549 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 3: that's going to give you the feedback fact that you 550 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: need because of your all your insecurities. 551 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good one. 552 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: Yes, And so this is the deal. It's actually Venus 553 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 3: Mars and I thought we've talked about this before, but 554 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: this is a two year cycle. And so when it's 555 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 3: in balsamic, uh, that means it's just before Venus and 556 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 3: Mars come together to form a new relationship. Okay, So 557 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: balsamic is about it's called it's dream time, it's called 558 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: seating time. So in other words, balsamic, you're starting to 559 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: get orders from spirit that when you come into that 560 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: new energy like a new moon or all planetary pairs 561 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 3: come into conjunction to make a new energy, you're needing 562 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: to let go of the last cycle. So we're all 563 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: going to be going through a period of letting go 564 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: of some of their values, some of the importance, some 565 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 3: things we put a lot of emphasis on even some 566 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: way we've been responding and interacting with relationships. And this 567 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: is why you're going to get some strologers saying, oh, 568 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 3: there's going to be a breakup and all of that. 569 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: But you know, even in the context if even if 570 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: we took that a breakup is going to do what 571 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 3: It's going to make you evaluate. It's going to make 572 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: you look at yourself. It's going to make you look 573 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 3: at the whole the whole relationship dynamic of the last 574 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: couple of years. What do I need to let go 575 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 3: of that you know that was more painful or was 576 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 3: it good about the relationship? How can I see how 577 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: when it comes back into going direct and coming into 578 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: a new seating time for the relationship, how can I 579 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: step back and look at the relationship to make it 580 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: a bigger, better, stronger, more loving, more intimate connection and 581 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: relationship two relationships to our material values, to ourselves. See, 582 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: everything is a relationship, and so Venus retrograde is going 583 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: to force us to look at you know, maybe our fears, 584 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: maybe the way the way things are going right now 585 00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 3: in the world socially. So we're reevaluating a lot of 586 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 3: the beliefs and our actions and our negative emotions even suffering. 587 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 3: What are we holding on to so rigidly, so attached 588 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 3: that we can't reevaluate our values? And so this is 589 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: what a venus retrograde is going to do. It's going 590 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 3: to make us to really examine and reflect on how 591 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: can we well can we have a better life and 592 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 3: have a better relationship? And then when it goes direct, 593 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 3: it's going to go direct. And third quarter, well, third 594 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 3: quarter is all about building, letting go of the old 595 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 3: reality and building a new reality. You've already got the 596 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: accolades of what you've built up to this point. And 597 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: the question in all our lives, as always, is this 598 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: all there is? There must be something more. There must 599 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 3: be something more, and what that something more is? We 600 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 3: have to change to attract that new future, that new dream, 601 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 3: that new possibility to bring it into our lives. And 602 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 3: so the positives are learning how to live and the 603 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 3: excitement and our true authentic self, how to be courageous 604 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 3: and compassionate with honest communications. And I mean, you know 605 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 3: that goes on so much, it's it's it's unbelievable. 606 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: What do you mean, I mean. 607 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: It's I mean you know, a lot of a lot 608 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: of conflict is because people don't communicate their truth. Yeah, 609 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 3: they just live with the feelings and then they they're 610 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: living with their living a lie and then have guilt 611 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 3: and shame because they're living in a lie. I mean, 612 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 3: you know. See. So that's what relationships do for us. 613 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 3: They show us our truth, our authentic selves. So we 614 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 3: need to discover new hopes, dreams, and wishes during this 615 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 3: retrograde period and reanalyze learning how to live in a moment. 616 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: Then sometimes accepting reality as it is instead of you know, 617 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 3: seeing others as a self reflection of our self and 618 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: then taking responsibility for what we've created. Well, that's big. 619 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the accepting reality as it is. That's 620 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: one of the ones I've struggled with for a really 621 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: long time because it's just I think in relationships in 622 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: the past, specifically, it's just even accepting people as they are, 623 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: and think in me, accepting them where they are in 624 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: this moment instead of fixating on if they just this, 625 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: then they could get to this other side or you know, 626 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: like all of the kind of things. And so I 627 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 2: think accepting reality as it is is a really really 628 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: or it's been a really helpful thing for me to 629 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: work on well. 630 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 3: And you know, this is the thing about relationships. And 631 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 3: the reason I bring this up is because the client 632 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 3: before we're doing this now been with a person for 633 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 3: nine years, but there's a there's a big disconnect right now. 634 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 3: There's a lot of unhappiness. And it took me a 635 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: while to kind of dig in and find out what 636 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: was going on. There was a lack of being honest 637 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 3: and truthful. And what it was not being honest and 638 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: truthful that was holding off the intimacy was that there 639 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: was a there was a hygiene problem with the the 640 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: with the relationship on the other side, but yet he 641 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 3: she liked him because he had a big heart, he 642 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 3: had a good heart, and he's supporting her and he's 643 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 3: taking care of her, and so it's trying to fit 644 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 3: together and understand. And I asked her, I said, well, 645 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 3: have you ever been honest about his hygiene problems? No? 646 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, And so you see that takes a whole conversation 647 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 5: to reevaluate and understand what you're feeling guilty and shameful 648 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 5: because you're taking from a person but you're not giving 649 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 5: in the way that you could, and you're not allowing 650 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 5: the love of that. 651 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: Person because he's got a big heart, he's got a 652 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 3: good heart, so there's things to love about them. So 653 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 3: it was a conversation about, well, you know what, when 654 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 3: we meet people and everything doesn't have to be perfect 655 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 3: with people for us to love them. Not if we 656 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 3: see the God in every body and just love them 657 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 3: for what we see that's the God in them, instead 658 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: of trying to look at them as a whole which 659 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 3: we can't see and then feeling like a schmuck when 660 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 3: we walk away and have an opinion and judgment and 661 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 3: perception about them, and then we feel guilty about being, 662 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 3: you know, dishonest. Yeah, and so that's a big dynamic. 663 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 3: It's huge, and venus retrograde helps to straighten that out. 664 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 3: So that's the conflict. Okay, So Venus's retrograde in you, 665 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 3: in me, in everybody. So how about if we all 666 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 3: take responsibility for building a better life, more beautiful life, 667 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 3: more joyful life, more love in our life, more intimacy 668 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 3: in our life, and a more wonderful sharing relationship. 669 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 2: I love that, mar What a note to end one 670 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: that is just so positive. 671 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 3: Well, it's the only way I can see it. I 672 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,959 Speaker 3: can't see it negative I do. 673 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean I think that that. I think it's always 674 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 2: a little I get that feeling sometimes when I know 675 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a big energy change of like, oh 676 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: what is this? What's it gonna feel like? 677 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 3: You know? 678 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: And so it can be fear producing a little bit. 679 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: But the thing is is like it was gonna happen anyway, 680 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 2: and now I'm just like a little more aware of it, 681 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 2: so I actually have the tools to recognize, Oh, this 682 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: is that thing that's coming up in me, and it 683 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: makes sense that it's coming up right now because venus 684 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: is in retrograde, and it just kind of helps us 685 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 2: in our own evolution. I feel like it doesn't need 686 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: to be scary because it was gonna happen anyway. But 687 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: you can either like work with it, like you said, 688 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: work with the energy, or you can just be going 689 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 2: around in your life feeling like life is really hard. 690 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 3: Or how about if you discover it going on in 691 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 3: somebody else and so you try to open up a 692 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 3: dialogue and communicate with that person of what honestly is 693 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 3: happening and what they're feeling so you can understand them. 694 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 3: I mean, you see the answer to polarization, which we 695 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 3: have so much going on in our lives now, especially 696 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 3: in society. The answer to polarization is you don't fix 697 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 3: or help things by evaluating from your own reality structure. 698 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 3: You have to try to get into the reality of 699 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: the individual or the person that is having a conflict 700 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: or that you're trying to match and understand. You don't 701 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 3: understand people. I can't understand Maga by my own reality. 702 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine that. Yeah, but if I want 703 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 3: to depolarize that and realize that they have their own realities, 704 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 3: well I've got to get into that reality and we'll 705 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 3: be to understand where they're coming from, and then I 706 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 3: can and then I can say I want to participate 707 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 3: or I don't want to participate. But there's no judgment, 708 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: there's no fracturing, No, there's no polarizing. Situation doesn't have 709 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,439 Speaker 3: to be a conflict in a war, right. 710 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: I've been feeling that big time. I've talked about this 711 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: a little bit, but I've been working on a project 712 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 2: that's like political. The political views are different than mine 713 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 2: with the people that I'm working with, and it's been 714 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 2: a really good experience for me in practicing like just 715 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 2: what you're saying, allowing people to have different thoughts deciding 716 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 2: what I want to participate in, but also not like 717 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 2: having to place judgment or feeling anger or just whatever, 718 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 2: like kind of opening ourselves up to the fact that 719 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: there are ideas of other people and we don't have 720 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: to agree with them, but we also don't have to 721 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 2: like fight them on it all the time or like 722 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 2: go to war or battle like you're saying, doesn't have 723 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 2: to be so divisive. 724 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 3: You just let them have their opinion. 725 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 2: That's all to each their own, you know. 726 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, and like I said, there's 727 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 3: always something to love about everybody. 728 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's true as well. Yeah most people. 729 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. No, there really is about everyone. I 730 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: really do believe that. Sometimes. I think when you go 731 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 2: through pain with someone that can become harder. But then 732 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 2: you're like, no, there is a reason I fell in 733 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: love with this person, or there is a reason I 734 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 2: was friends with this person at the beginning. It just 735 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 2: got a little off kilter, and I don't agree with 736 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 2: that part of that. But yeah, anyway, well, Marv, we're 737 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,479 Speaker 2: out of time. I know. I know you did little 738 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 2: descriptions for each sign do you want to try to 739 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 2: get through this quickly or do you want to put 740 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 2: this somewhere on your website for people to go read. 741 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 3: I can put it on the website. This was a 742 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 3: This was pretty good for uh as far as the 743 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 3: outline for people to kind of understand this venus retrograde 744 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: and this time period we're in. Yeah, I think that 745 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 3: there's going to be even even on a macro cosm, 746 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 3: in the social level, we really have got to really 747 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 3: look at what's going on in society and what's happening 748 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,879 Speaker 3: in society and kind of get an idea where we stand. Yeah, 749 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a venus retrograde. So I think that, 750 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: you know, we all have a lot of fears or 751 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 3: a lot of having a lot of anxieties of what 752 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 3: maybe might be could be, but we also got to 753 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 3: stay in the moment. Yeah, we don't know how it's 754 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 3: going to play out. Just let it. Let it play 755 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 3: out before you start judging it, right, And uh, And 756 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 3: I think that it's uh, you know, the macro cosm 757 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 3: is always reflective of the micro so it's what's going 758 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,439 Speaker 3: on with us too. 759 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what we're experiencing on the big scale is 760 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: what is happening internally as well. Yeah, well, if people 761 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: do want to go read, Marv did a breakdown of 762 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: how venus retrograde is going to affect each sign And 763 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: if people want to go read that, where would they 764 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 2: find that. 765 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 3: They will find that at Marvin at astromarv dot com, 766 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 3: on my. 767 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 2: Blog, on your blog, and if you want to book 768 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: a session with Marv, you can email Marv. 769 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 3: At Marvin at astromarv dot com. 770 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 2: I will also put both of those sites and links 771 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 2: in the description of this podcast. So okay, I feel 772 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 2: much better going into this month. Everything else everyone else 773 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 2: is like whoa Jila is going to be a wild 774 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: get ready? So this gives me a little insight into 775 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 2: how I work with this energy. 776 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 3: I feel like this makes my day Kellie, knowing that 777 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 3: you are a lot. 778 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 2: Calmer love bet you won't get any panics. 779 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: I should probably go to bed right now, no one, 780 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 3: I know. 781 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah in the day here Mark, this is this. 782 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 3: Was good at end of the day. 783 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely four thirty times sounds right. 784 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 3: All right, We'll have a fantastic birthday and thank you, 785 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 3: be safe, love me. 786 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 1: All right, Thanks mar thanks for listening to the Velvet's 787 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, where we believe everyone has 788 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 1: a little velvet and a little edge. 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