WEBVTT - Achieving Better Global Health Through Data Science 

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Masser and

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Stenovek on Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>It is time now for the Bloomberg Business Week Women's

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<v Speaker 1>Health segment, where we focus on key issues in developing technologies,

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<v Speaker 1>impacting the president and future of women's health around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kind of say the world of women's health

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<v Speaker 1>was rocked a little bit this past week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, President Trump created a potentially existential crisis for ken View,

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<v Speaker 2>the maker of tailanol, with just three words about the

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<v Speaker 2>company's most recognized product, he said, don't take it. The drum.

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<v Speaker 2>Administration is linking tailanol's active ingredient, acetamnifin, to autism and

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<v Speaker 2>urging pregnant women Carol to largely avoid the medication, although

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<v Speaker 2>decades of scientific research have yet to identify a single

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<v Speaker 2>case cause. Excuse me for autism.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get more though, into the bigger, broader

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<v Speaker 1>picture of women's health. Doctor Joan Larroverer is with US

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<v Speaker 1>Interim Chief Medical Officer at Boston Children's Hospital, Director of

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<v Speaker 1>Innovation and Outcomes. She's also co founder and president of

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<v Speaker 1>the NGO Virtue Foundation, which is delivering healthcare in over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five countries, so she has a big global perspective here.

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<v Speaker 1>She joins us here in studio, doctor la Rover. So

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<v Speaker 1>nice to have you here with us.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you. I'm great, Carol, Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for having me today.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot we want to talk to your in town.

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<v Speaker 1>With everything that's going on, we're looking at global health

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<v Speaker 1>with global leaders. I do need to ask you though,

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<v Speaker 1>about what we got from the administration this week, the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration, the president on pregnant women taking Thailand. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just curious what it's been like. And I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>been in New York, but what you've been hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>your team back at Boston Children's when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>this news and what they're hearing from patients and what

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<v Speaker 1>the guidance is that you're giving them.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Carol. Well, firstly, at Boston Children's we don't take

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<v Speaker 3>care of pregnant women. It's a children's hospital. But right

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<v Speaker 3>this obviously encomstances compasses women and children, and I myself

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<v Speaker 3>don't take care of autism patients. I'm a pediatric cardiac

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<v Speaker 3>intensive care specialist, but I am hearing from my clinical

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<v Speaker 3>colleagues that they are getting calls from families and creating

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<v Speaker 3>confusion around this is really a challenge, and we're really

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<v Speaker 3>sort of taking that head on in terms of addressing

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<v Speaker 3>the questions of families as they are coming to us.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that we've noticed about this moment in time

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<v Speaker 2>is and we spoke to a doctor from the American

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<v Speaker 2>College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists earlier this week, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>this tension between what we're hearing from professional organizations as

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<v Speaker 2>far as recommendations go, and what we're hearing from the

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<v Speaker 2>American government and the HHS. And it doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 2>that's happened in the past, where you don't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 2>the government aligned with these professional organizations. I'm just wondering

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<v Speaker 2>how you're thinking about this moment when it comes to healthcare.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a challenging time for healthcare, and I think we

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<v Speaker 3>just stick to our mission that we are trying to

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<v Speaker 3>provide the best, safe, most effective care to children that

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<v Speaker 3>we can.

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<v Speaker 1>I am also curious, like we said, you're in town

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had the benefit of talking to global leaders

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the big issues that are out there,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's climate change. We've talked a lot about AI

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<v Speaker 1>this week, but looking at healthcare from a global perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to bring you into this because you're very

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<v Speaker 1>involved when it comes to the applications of AI in medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to us about kind of where we are today

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<v Speaker 1>with it and kind of where it can go.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I think we're at one of the most exciting

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<v Speaker 3>times in healthcare. And I've been involved with AI with

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<v Speaker 3>Virtue Foundation for fifteen years and never has it been

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<v Speaker 3>like this moment in time because I think that the

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<v Speaker 3>tools that are now unlocked, particularly now with GENAI, cloud computing,

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<v Speaker 3>big data, we're seeing use cases that are much more

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<v Speaker 3>actionable than before and at an enterprise scale.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Break it down?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can break it down in the content of

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<v Speaker 3>what we've done with Virtue Foundation. I'm happy to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about some of the hospital use cases too, but in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of Virtue Foundation, fifteen years ago, doctor Ebi Alahi,

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<v Speaker 3>my colleague was in Burundi and he was there caring

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<v Speaker 3>for patients and had this Rika moment where He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>we should have more granular data on the ground to

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<v Speaker 3>understand what my eyes see and I should be able

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<v Speaker 3>to see it here in New York to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to action on it. And at that time people are like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about? Right, it was very early

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<v Speaker 3>days and we started that journey of trying to first

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<v Speaker 3>get the granular data visualize it geospatially. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>we've grown up as the technology has grown up, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think key leverage points for us have been partnerships

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<v Speaker 3>with data bricks, Data robot, Karto and I can break

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<v Speaker 3>down one now if it's helpful, well.

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<v Speaker 1>And talk to us about it, because you know, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to develop the developing world, have data

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<v Speaker 1>and information, you can assess a situation and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. Yes, so talk to us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that. You do have partnerships with data bricks.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, Data Robot Cardo, what are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>building together?

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<v Speaker 3>We are building the marketplace for global health philanthropy. What

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<v Speaker 3>does that mean so you can actually see what is

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<v Speaker 3>happening in healthcare facilities and what is the work of

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<v Speaker 3>healthcare engios on the ground in lower middle income countries.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've used AI in particularly, we've built an enterprise

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<v Speaker 3>grade pipeline with data bricks where we're extracting all the

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<v Speaker 3>data that exists and co locating it to a geospatial location.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're a hospital, a Kolubu hospital in Ghana, everything

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<v Speaker 3>that's out there information wise is co located a geospatially

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<v Speaker 3>to that organization, and you create this vector graph, this

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge graph, with all these mini knowledge graphs that tell

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<v Speaker 3>you what's happened in each of those facilities.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, this is all about

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<v Speaker 2>improving outcomes and it's helping people live longer, healthier, happier lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have the data yet that shows that this

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<v Speaker 2>moment in technology is leading to better outcomes?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what we're on the cusp of. Would

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<v Speaker 3>I say that we're there and it's all, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>completely functional and moving. No, but that is the direction

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<v Speaker 3>of travel and those are the tools that are enabling

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<v Speaker 3>us to do so. For now, I can see this

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<v Speaker 3>data in ways I couldn't see before. I can send

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<v Speaker 3>the right teams to the right locations.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the better outcomes that you that you envision?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are we talking about longer life expectancy in

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<v Speaker 2>the developing and the developed world? Are we talking about

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<v Speaker 2>lower infant mortality?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're talking about all of it. I think

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<v Speaker 3>eventually economic development will solve some of our problems. But

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<v Speaker 3>in that window and time, how can we shorten the

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<v Speaker 3>time it takes till we get really more developed healthcare

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<v Speaker 3>in these markets. And we feel that this VF match platform,

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<v Speaker 3>this actionable data initiative, will allow you to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to use this information, whether you're a healthcare in GEO,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you're a government in a country, whether you're even

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<v Speaker 3>a corporation, to determine what you can build to accelerate progress.

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<v Speaker 3>And we personally are using it to send medical and

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<v Speaker 3>surgical teams to locations where the medical deserts are the

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<v Speaker 3>large populations of patients who need that ophthalmologist or that

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<v Speaker 3>neurosurgeon or that gynecologist, and so that the people who

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<v Speaker 3>are doing it, like myself, there are many in global

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<v Speaker 3>health who are doing this work, know the place they

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<v Speaker 3>can go to be most useful to the patient and

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<v Speaker 3>most useful in passing on skill.

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<v Speaker 1>In just ten seconds. So we didn't really it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>so easy to do that before. No, no, And it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably not unless somebody brought your attention to it, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>or you got wind of it. And then but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the most productive way of doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. This is to create efficiency and scale.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Gotta leave it there, doctor lower there, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Thank you really appreciate it. Interim chief

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<v Speaker 1>Medical Officer at Boston Children's Hospital, Director of Innovation and Outcomes, and,

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<v Speaker 1>as we said, co founder and president of the Virtue Foundation,