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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him. Dufa Brankers.

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Speaker 4: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: That's all. Gotta get some things off my chest, Kenny,

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Speaker 3: that's why we have a podcast, Anak and Florian podcast

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Speaker 3: Back in your Life. It's Monday, January twentieth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: It is episode five thirty three of the ancan Florent

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Speaker 3: podcast Anticonfloring Podcast, presented by DraftKings DraftKings. The Crown is yours,

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Speaker 3: Ken Flow. In some part when this show launched in

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, it was because, you know, let me clear

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Speaker 3: my throat, I got to get some things off my

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Speaker 3: chest after these pay per view events as you did.

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Speaker 3: Of course. My goodness, Ken Flow, YOUFC three eleven. These

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Speaker 3: are my favorite shows to do with you. And we

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Speaker 3: have so much to talk about. I feel like we're

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Speaker 3: up against the clock already.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, man, one a night, dude, so much to talk about.

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Speaker 3: But let's get into it, dude, Well before we do that,

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Speaker 3: if I could so. Donald Trump is being inaugurated as

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Speaker 3: we speak, as the forty seventh president of the United

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Speaker 3: States of America. So now I'd imagine in all of

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Speaker 3: your mixed martial arts glory and UFC slash Anakin Florian

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Speaker 3: podcast preparation this morning, you did not throw on the

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Speaker 3: cable news network or Fox News and you didn't see

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Speaker 3: any of that. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 6: I actually I did see a little bit of it now,

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Speaker 6: not on television, a little bit on the introne as

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Speaker 6: I was prepping for the show a little bit and listening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had it on, and of course Trump

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Speaker 3: and all his glory, but Dana White right behind all

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Speaker 3: of the former presidents on the podium there on the

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Speaker 3: das or dais or whatever you call it, right, but

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Speaker 3: Dana right behind Barack Obama and former President Bush red

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Speaker 3: tie and all. I don't know that I've ever seen

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Speaker 3: Dana in a red tie. And I didn't even know

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Speaker 3: that Dana was there. And I'm tweeting about like Dana

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Speaker 3: buying the Boston Celtics right simultaneously, because there's this rumor

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Speaker 3: that the Boston Red Sox owner John Henry is going

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Speaker 3: to put together you know, his Fenway Sports group maybe

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Speaker 3: is gonna bid for the Celtics, and most of us

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Speaker 3: Boston sports fans are like, please know, right, So, Dana White,

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Speaker 3: if you are watching the Anak and Floran podcast somehow

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Speaker 3: after you leave the inauguration today and I know that's

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Speaker 3: not your usual Monday working order to watch our show,

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Speaker 3: but if there could somehow be a Dana White lead

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Speaker 3: group to purchase the Boston Celtics, that is that is

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Speaker 3: my Christmas wish. I know it's after Christmas, but I

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Speaker 3: just needed to get that out there. Ken Flow after

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Speaker 3: ce and Dana this morning, you know he needs to

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Speaker 3: go buy the Seas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean they would have what

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Speaker 6: the Red Sox, Liverpool FC?

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, and the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: Wow. So to what extent do you follow free agency

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Speaker 3: and signings and Liverpool FC and how John Henry and

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Speaker 3: them are doing as owners compared to maybe other Premier

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Speaker 3: League teams?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: They play in the Premier League? Is that right? Little bit? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Exactly so, because certainly the Boston Red Sox and I

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Speaker 3: this is not really for this audience necessarily, right, but

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Speaker 3: they haven't been spending money historically the way they used to,

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Speaker 3: and they become almost a mid market team as opposed

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Speaker 3: know you can pay a luxury tax, and Boston Celtics

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Speaker 3: a Dana White led ownership group would be willing to

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Speaker 3: were competing for championships anyway, UFC three eleven, my word.

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Speaker 3: And before we get into all of that, the into

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Speaker 3: it dome can flow, right. So when we were talking

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Speaker 3: event of the year last year, right, it was everything

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Speaker 3: sphere right. Fighter of the year for me last year

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Speaker 3: was the sphere. Fight of the year happened inside the sphere.

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Speaker 3: Event of the year was the sphere card of the year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't the sphere, right, but my gosh, man,

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Speaker 3: that venue was just the place where so many of

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Speaker 3: where not that it's a comp right, but there would

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Speaker 3: gone to to ensure that this halo was maximized. I

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Speaker 3: don't know the extent to which it translated on TV

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Speaker 6: No, it looked really cool. It looked really cool. I

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Speaker 6: imagine it was even better live. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: how much this sport has grown. And I think the

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Speaker 6: implement this kind of technology and I'm here for well.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking as well. Our producer Cody

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Speaker 3: Merrill chimes in the private chat. For him, it translated

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Speaker 3: better on TV than the sphere, which I think is interesting.

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Speaker 3: But I agree it is interesting when you think about

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Speaker 3: the futuristic nature of the arenas that we could see,

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Speaker 3: because the arenas aren't going to go backwards in theory, right.

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Speaker 3: This is I think a smaller venue when compared to

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Speaker 3: maybe some NBA arenas, but pretty intimate. You know, it

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Speaker 3: rises high, but my gosh, they did an outstanding job

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Speaker 3: Steve Balmer, who I believe is the owner of the

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Speaker 3: La Clippers. All right, Oh, last thing I'll get to,

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Speaker 3: by the way, Ken Flow. On this date, thirteen years

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Speaker 3: ago you and me called our first UFC fight night Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Jim Miller, Melvin Galade, the Men on the Marquee. So

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Speaker 3: thirteen years ago today, Oh yeah about that. Now I

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Speaker 3: give me all of that thing and views you're not

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Speaker 3: pay per views. I am in recovery mode now. Crystallino

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Speaker 3: Ray Longo later, I do want to be clearheaded those

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Speaker 3: later on. We have legendary mixed martial arts coach for

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Speaker 3: rosta hobby joining us live, and I always like to

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Speaker 3: reunite Campone fasta hobby together. They tried to be Jose

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Speaker 3: Aldo back in twenty eleven. All Right, you have to

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Speaker 3: give Quo Islam makashev is the man, was the man

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Speaker 3: and still the man. Hanato Moikano deserves an abundance of

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Speaker 3: We got some great Dan Hooker sound coming up from

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Speaker 3: submission radio. But what else can be said of now,

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Speaker 3: at least on paper, canfil the most decorated UFC lightweight

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I've talked about this quite a bit,

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Speaker 6: he made it look easy against the guy at Hanata

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Speaker 6: Did not expect to fight Isla Mahashev last week, but

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Speaker 6: for Islam Mahashev to do what he did to Moikano

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you saw what Henner Gracie

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Speaker 3: I usually try to conquer hard things in my life

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Speaker 3: I could conquer Brazilian jiu jitsu, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: when I watch Henner go through this, I am responsible

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Speaker 3: for seven of their views. I I it's inherently complicated

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, your own arm becomes your worst

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Speaker 7: And you know, I think many times we think.

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Speaker 6: You know, you have to be able to think about, Okay,

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Speaker 6: if Islam Mahashef takes my back, what do I do there?

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Speaker 6: What do I do against his right hand. How do

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Speaker 6: And this is where it becomes very difficult on less

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Speaker 6: like Islamhashev, who brings so many different weapons. How do

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Speaker 6: you do that in a six week camp an eight

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Speaker 6: very tall task for Moi Kano.

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Speaker 3: Later we're going to get into sort of striking and

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Speaker 3: effective striking and how even though umar Ormago metav may

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Speaker 3: was not a more effective striker in this fight. But

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Speaker 3: when it comes to effective grappling versus levels of Brazilian

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Speaker 3: jiu jitsu black belt. I'm only asking you this question

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Speaker 3: because I believe in a post fight interview with Megan Olev,

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Speaker 3: Islama Kashev referenced something about, you know, black belts or

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Speaker 3: their levels to this black belt game. So I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to put you on the spot. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know under whom Hanato Moikano is a Brazilian jiu jitsu

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Speaker 3: black belt, but you know, Islama Kashev did sort of intimate,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, bro, I I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even know what I'm asking you, Kenny, Right,

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Speaker 3: But like Islam Maikashev is sort of saying, there are

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Speaker 6: There's no question about that that there was a time where,

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Speaker 3: So when you look at Islami Kashev's skill set and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, And again it was really, uh, it was

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Speaker 3: How great he is. All right, Paul, Question number three.

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Speaker 8: Hooker idea, that's pretty yeah. I thought that it was

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Speaker 8: But like Will Tittles your you know you absolutely everything.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, like obviously saw Dana White just say that

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Speaker 9: You know, Daddy can't Daddy can't buy backburn, Kenny, I'd

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks to Submission Radio and thanks to your

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Speaker 7: An excuse for not cutting weight. Is that? Would you

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Speaker 6: that has had multiple back injuries in fights in jiu

431
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Speaker 6: jitsu tournaments. I competed in the World Championships about three

432
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 6: or four years ago. I was warming up with a

433
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Speaker 6: guy that's probably one hundred and twenty five pounds. I

434
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 6: picked that guy specifically to warm up with, and what

435
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Speaker 6: happens I injure my back about thirty minutes before I'm

436
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Speaker 6: supposed to go out there and compete, and I compete

437
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 6: with a hunched back, barely able to walk.

438
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Speaker 7: These things do happen. They suck.

439
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 6: Now, there was an existing injury there that maybe revealed

440
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 6: itself as maybe I was making weight even though I

441
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 6: didn't really cut much weight.

442
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: But these things happen, They do happen.

443
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 6: But speculation is gonna come about, like what Dan is

444
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 6: talking about. When you hear maybe someone like Dana White

445
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 6: say he's gonna have to work his way up to

446
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 6: a title fight again, I thought that was an odd remark,

447
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 6: especially considering that I don't know who else, who else

448
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 6: you're supposed to put in there right now, that's gonna

449
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 6: be a better fight than armand Serukian.

450
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Speaker 7: But again, you know, correct me if I'm wrong.

451
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 6: So that's the way I see it, and I think

452
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 6: it's it's a really unfortunate timing, uh for Armand and

453
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 6: his team obviously was preparing really well, look to be

454
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 6: in tremendous shape. Yeah yeah, and for that to happen, man, Uh,

455
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 6: it just sucks all the way around.

456
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Speaker 7: There must have been something that was existing there.

457
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 6: He was dealing with some bumps and bruises and injuries

458
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 6: like you always do, especially with these.

459
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Speaker 7: Five round fights.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh and it you know, it reared its

461
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: ugly head. He's a very flexible guy. I know people

462
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 3: are gonna lean into a lot of the exercises that

463
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: he does and maybe some stuff that he was doing

464
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: leading up to the fight, and that is going to

465
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Speaker 3: open him up to some criticism. Part of the reason

466
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: I think he pulled out of the fight is because

467
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: he is so confident in his ability to beat Islamikashev

468
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: and everybody else that he feels like he can beat

469
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 3: a man if need be, which is going to be

470
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 3: the necessary course of action, and then get back to

471
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 3: the Islami kashe fight. But I do feel like Dan Hooker,

472
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 3: you know, immortalized behind me. Don't hunt what you can't kill.

473
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you the way that individual is wired.

474
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: He would have said, pump me full of muscle relaxers

475
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: or whatever is legal under the confines of the drug

476
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 3: system to loosen up my back. I need to make

477
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: that weight and fight Islamikashev in whatever condition.

478
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Speaker 6: And John, he's smart too, like he sees a guy

479
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 6: in armand who's at the top of the ladder who

480
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 6: just had that opportunity, And what better a way than

481
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 6: to make a future fight then you know, criticize some

482
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 6: guy that you know just had this opportunity, either to

483
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 6: you leap frog that individual, or yeah, just set up

484
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Speaker 6: a fight in the future.

485
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Speaker 3: So I think it's smart and people like this, right, Yes,

486
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: and Dan did finish his remarks on Submission Radio by

487
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: saying that he feels like Arman maybe is gonna have

488
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: a hard time getting fights because people are gonna think

489
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: he's unreliable. Michael Chandler is campaigning for that fight, and

490
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 3: I do think that fight makes a lot of sense. Arman.

491
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 3: Saergian said, I'll fight you, but I'd rather fight a

492
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: guy Michael that beats you twice. I want my rematch

493
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: with Charles Olivera, even though Arman beat Charles at UFC

494
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: three hundred. So fifty percent of people think Arman would

495
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: be the most competitive to try to dethron in Islam.

496
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Speaker 3: Thirty seven percent of you think it'll be Charles Dubronx Olivera,

497
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 3: who just looked fantastic in that white suit. I mean,

498
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Speaker 3: I basically came out of my seat in the goddamn

499
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: celebrity shot. So in terms of Islamikashev at welterweight, right,

500
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: I am not sitting here with a Blao Muhammed t

501
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: shirt suggestive that Blah Muhammed and Islamikashev would never fight, right.

502
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: I do think it is largely out of the realm

503
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: of possibility because of the connective tissue between Balal and

504
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: this camp. But we're Bla Muhammed to reign for a

505
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: long time and the same of Islamikashev at fifty five.

506
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: I think it's an inevitability, right. But as Daniel Cormier

507
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: said on pay per view, when you cross divisions like this,

508
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: it does in some part hold up two divisions, even

509
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: though you're having a title fight in one of them.

510
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: But it does delay the number one lightweight contender, whomever

511
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: that may be, if Islam were to move up. But

512
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 3: right now, there isn't necessarily an obvious guy. I mean,

513
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: for me, it would probably be Charles and Arman obviously

514
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: didn't do anything to lose the title shot. But you

515
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: can understand Kenny why some people would say, all right,

516
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: Islam set the title defense record at lightweight, the guys

517
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: die to be a welterweight champion, why not move up?

518
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 3: And yeah, if Leon Edwards was the champion, you know,

519
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: maybe that'd be the fight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And listen, he gave that shot to Volkanovski right

522
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 6: coming up from one hundred and forty five pounds. I'm

523
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 6: sure he wants that same courtesy going up to one

524
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 6: hundred and seven pounds. And sometimes when you get these

525
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 6: great champions, you know their goals go beyond just being

526
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 6: a champion in their weight class. They want to conquer

527
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 6: as much as possible. And of course, I'm sure that

528
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty five pounds weight cut gets a

529
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 6: little old. Islam didn't look so great up there on

530
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 6: the scale and sometimes doesn't. And I'm sure he wouldn't

531
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Speaker 6: mind having to cut less weight for one hundred and seventy.

532
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: So Hanato Moikano is a really smart man. He watches

533
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: the financial news Kenny all the time. He has redirected

534
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: his career with work ethic and an understanding of how

535
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: to maybe maximize a microphone a little bit be resonant

536
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: with fans, right, but man, his interview with Joe Rogan

537
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: was really telling and it really peels back the surface

538
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: for a mixed martial arts athlete. This was not one

539
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: day's notice. This was a lifetime of work to try

540
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: to put yourself in position to be the best one

541
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five pound fighter in the world. He

542
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: fought Hafel Dosanjos in a five round co main event

543
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 3: with no training camp. Did Moikano on four days notice

544
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: at UFC two seventy two or whatever it was. That

545
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: was his last loss prior. Right, we understand now Islama

546
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: Kashev is otherworldly, but Hanato Moikano has been put positioning

547
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: himself his whole life. Right, just had an amazing training

548
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 3: camp for Banil dhar Us. You'd think some of that

549
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: would be fucking useful against Islam Kashev. And he says

550
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: to Joe Rogan, you know I'm sad. I'm sad. Right,

551
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: A lifetime of work put me here, and you know

552
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 3: I tapped in four minutes or whatever it was.

553
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Speaker 6: I think why we've seen Moikano kind of emerge as

554
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 6: this big star is not only because of his fighting

555
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 6: style is aggression, but he's not afraid to be real

556
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 6: with with the audience and with himself. This guy has

557
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 6: positioned himself extremely well, as you mentioned, and a lot

558
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 6: that has to do with him taking advantage of his

559
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: mic time in his interviews. I love it, you know,

560
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 6: of course, you know I eat up all the bitcoin

561
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 6: stuff and all the economic stuff that he spits out.

562
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 6: But this is a guy that it really has known

563
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 6: or is understanding all the different facets of this sport

564
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 6: and of this business. And he's thirty five years old.

565
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 6: He's kind of near the tail end of his career.

566
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 6: I think wants to maximize it the best of his

567
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 6: ability and really felt this was an opportunity that was

568
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 6: kind of destined for him to be a world champion.

569
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Speaker 7: In this sport.

570
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 6: It was not to be, But like I mentioned to

571
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: him on Twitter, man, he's gonna come back, and he's

572
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 6: gonna come back stronger. Sometimes you don't know the things

573
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: that you're vulnerable to until you actually experience it. You

574
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 6: need to see what that next level is like to

575
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 6: elevate yourself, and facing a guy like Isla mahashef is

576
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 6: a great way to do it.

577
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 7: He'll be back and he'll be better.

578
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Speaker 3: I think so too, And we'll see if they do.

579
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Speaker 3: Hanato Moikano versus Banil Darius and try to put that

580
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Speaker 1: Now, time for the Ray long Minute.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, come on, Ray, Oh shit, Ray Ray. All right,

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Speaker 5: Let's just start this off by saying that anybody that

615
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 5: thinks that Umar won that fight go see a psychiatry.

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00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 5: I said, I don't know I have I'm in shock

617
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 5: over something. I'm in shock over this.

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Speaker 3: I have no twenty talking points on this fight, and

619
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Speaker 3: one of them was actually not that. I didn't even

620
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Speaker 3: think we were going to talk about the outcome being

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Speaker 3: in question. I do think if when Umar watches this

622
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: back he'll recognize that he lost three to two.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, look, I'm scoring at four to one. Three

624
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: to two is all right, But okay, we were going

625
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Speaker 5: into the hours. We had to get at least four round.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think maybe I'd said that because the

627
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Speaker 5: end of the fight was just so humiliating and dominating

628
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Speaker 5: that you. I mean, if you're looking at that fight

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Speaker 5: right with the sound orf and body language, boy was

630
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Speaker 5: who's winning that fight? Like the guy was? I thought

631
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 5: he was embarrassing him, putting him down, laughing looking at him.

632
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: Would that guy do that? He did anything? So it's

633
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: not a discret. I think Guma was a good fight.

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00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 5: I think he's got I think he's got a lot

635
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: of growing up to do, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me take thirty seconds to set this up.

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00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: We want to get Kemflo's thoughts. Congratulations though, to the

638
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Speaker 3: future UFC Hall of Fame coach Raymond Peter Longo, who

639
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: fucking does it again and again and again. He comes

640
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: over the broadcast boot arms out to the side like

641
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do now? And I don't know

642
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Speaker 3: how Marob Dwallash Willy classifies himself as a human being

643
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: because that kid is on a completely different genetic level

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Speaker 3: than any man created before him. That's a conversation point,

645
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: but it is Mirob dwallash Willy making good despite his

646
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 3: lack of health on a first championship title defense Ken

647
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: Flow unanimous decision forty eight forty seven times two dissension

648
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: judge did have it forty nine to forty six, four

649
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: rounds to one four the still bandam weight champion Marob

650
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 3: dwallash Willy. I'm gonna let kem fog get in here,

651
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: Ray just if I could on the fight and then

652
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: the floor is yours.

653
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 5: No, then would go crazy because I don't know if

654
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: I'm happy, I'm pissed off, but uh, you know, before

655
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: I get going to man, john Wood did a great job.

656
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 5: I want to shout out him. He had a kid

657
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: from Chechnia. Al Jo obviously always does a good joby.

658
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: I get, you know, a lot of the credit, but

659
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: these guys really put a lot of work in So

660
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to buy piss that. I can't think

661
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 5: of the kid's name.

662
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: I'll get it for it's on my fighter card, but it.

663
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: Actually isn't like Casine okay good, And I want to

664
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 5: show you a picture of Morob's leg four weeks ago,

665
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: because when you talk about injuries, I thought the guy

666
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 5: was gonna lose his fucking leg. So I want to

667
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 5: show you that so you get an impact of what

668
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 5: I'm not bullshit, but go ahead, let's go, Kenny, Let's

669
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: do it well.

670
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: For me, I think that Morob put himself in just

671
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 6: the perfect scenario. This is this is what dreams are

672
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 6: made of. Uh, you're down two rounds, you come back

673
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 6: on potentially right. Uh, you come back, you win two rounds,

674
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 6: you're heading into the fifth.

675
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: You are now smiling.

676
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 6: Your opponent is exhausted, Uh, you know, doesn't want to

677
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 6: deal with that kind of pressure ever again.

678
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: And Morob is just ready to destroy out there.

679
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 6: And this is why conditioning is such an important uh

680
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 6: part of the fight game and why it's such a

681
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: crazy hack when you have a guy like a Morob

682
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 6: duala Javili who can pressure you on so many levels.

683
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 6: And is what's more impressive is, you know, Morob may

684
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 6: not be the most technical striker in the world, but

685
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 6: he stays busy enough and he always has that element

686
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: of taking the fight into the clinch or putting you

687
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 6: on your back at any point, and the breaks off

688
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 6: of the clinch were really important as well. If he

689
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 6: wasn't successful with the takedown, he was hitting you to body,

690
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 6: he was kneeing your leg, he was you know, punching

691
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 6: you upstairs. It's non stop stress physically, spiritually, mentally, and

692
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 6: it's amazing to see that in twenty twenty five at

693
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 6: that level from Morob was a sight to see. And

694
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 6: with all the circumstances around it, whether it's the injuries

695
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 6: or you know, the unfortunate uh, you know, circumstances around

696
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 6: timing with this fight, how he really didn't want to

697
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 6: have to do this at this point, how you know,

698
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 6: maybe he felt you know that uh, you know, Umar

699
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 6: didn't deserve this spot. So that was the concern for

700
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 6: me is mentally, how is Morob coming into this fight?

701
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 7: All that didn't matter.

702
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 6: When the lights come on, this guy shines brightest and

703
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 6: really has come into his own pretty late, like just

704
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 6: recently as a champion, and it's amazing to see.

705
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, we go back. I think everything we've said

706
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 5: in the last year about Morob is just coming to fruition.

707
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 5: They built a monster by trying to get rid of

708
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 5: his kid and lining him up with all these tough

709
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: fights and him getting through those tests, they got a

710
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: monster on their hands. The confidence keeps building, the momentum building,

711
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 5: you know.

712
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: What I mean.

713
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 5: Like he's just and your dealer with a special mindset.

714
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 5: That's the difference. Like even go to the cardio always

715
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: had good cos he's always the hardest worker in the gym.

716
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 5: That you can't take that away. But when you couple

717
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 5: that Kenny with a guy that loves to do what

718
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: he's doing then would do it for free, your cardio

719
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 5: goes extra ordinary, superhuman. He's not stressed out in there.

720
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: Why would you, cardio? Do you get tired when you

721
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 5: go to a concert and you're sitting there, you start feeling, Oh,

722
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 5: he loves it. He loves it, he lives for it.

723
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 5: That when you put that with really good cardio training

724
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: always on the he'll go on to treadmill and now

725
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 5: he'll spot the extra five rounds. When you put all

726
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 5: that together, that's what you see in superhuman cardio. Look,

727
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: i'll give you a good example. George Foreman was a killer.

728
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 5: He was the original Mike Tyson. Nobody lasted two rounds

729
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 5: with him. And then when one guy think it was

730
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 5: Jimmy Young figured out, let me just take him to

731
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 5: like seven round he gassed out. Yeah, he guessed that

732
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: he couldn't win a fight. Then he takes ten years off.

733
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 5: He comes back as a mature guy in his forties.

734
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 5: He could go twelve rounds easy because he was relaxed.

735
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: There wasn't a stressful situation. You I go like this,

736
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 5: if you could, if you're a runner, right, I say

737
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 5: that to the guy's in the gym. I know who

738
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: has good cardio, a good machine cardio. And then they

739
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: get in there and spa and there goes sideways. Why, Yeah,

740
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: you're stressed out. You're not. You don't want to be there. Yeah,

741
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: your cardio is great, but if you can't couple that

742
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 5: with the love of what you're doing, you have no cardio.

743
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: That's what we see, what we were I think that's

744
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 5: exactly what we see.

745
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: Look at him.

746
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 5: He could have went another five rounds. There's no question

747
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 5: of mine. I seen him do it, and I'm sure

748
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 5: you can ask John he's seen him do it now

749
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 5: in the gym. Anybody who knows Morob this isn't a

750
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 5: surprise to it all.

751
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: It's just and even if you have good cardio, Yeah,

752
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 3: take a sip of coffee. Even if you have good cardio,

753
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: sometimes in a championship career, in a UFC career, you

754
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 3: can have cardio abandonment on fight night. But I always

755
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: used to think, right, Kobe Covington loved being in a

756
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 3: fight so much that he was able to sort of relax,

757
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: and that just allowed him to just be as if

758
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 3: he's at a concert. To your point, so it's interesting

759
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: that you sort of talk about rob Dwallash Willy in

760
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: that way. So when you did an interview ray recently

761
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: about Morob, I just wrote down a few words that

762
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: you said. So pace right, and Kenny, I'd like to

763
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: get your thoughts on this. We can talk about cardio

764
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: and work ethic and intensity was another word that you said.

765
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: Genetics will ability, hard work right, but pace the ability

766
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: to set and maintain this pace. There is no point

767
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: of comparison, right, So I don't know if it's pace.

768
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: When I say who has the second best pace or

769
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: sets the most frantic, furious pace in UFC history, I

770
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: say second to Marob Dwalash Willy, Kenny, I guess we'll

771
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: start with you, man like in terms of his pace

772
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: and his ability to set it and keep it. I

773
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: don't know that this man has any equal in UFC history.

774
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 7: Really, no, I'm not sure he does either.

775
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: And it's an amazing thing because you know, we do

776
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 6: our best to be unwilling dance partners. But when you

777
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 6: get a guy who ca get in your face and

778
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 6: especially physically get a hold of you, grapple you, and

779
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 6: then as soon as there's any space that's there, he

780
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 6: then begins to punch you and just keep that pressure

781
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 6: on mentally and physically. It's tough to deal with. If

782
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 6: I'm going if I have a difficult strength and conditioning,

783
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 6: you know, session, I can deal with it because I

784
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 6: know I have to get through it, and you know,

785
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 6: the like the repercussions of it is that maybe I

786
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 6: just didn't do that good. The repercussions of being tired

787
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 6: in a fight is that Marob Dwalashvili is there out

788
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 6: there trying.

789
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 3: To kill you.

790
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 6: So it's a completely different thing of being tired and

791
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 6: then being tired against a psychopath who's in front of you,

792
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 6: who's trying to literally hurt.

793
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 7: You as bad as possible.

794
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 6: So that is a scary thought for a lot of people,

795
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 6: and people just aren't really prepared or understand what it

796
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 6: means to be against a machine like Morob. It's just

797
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 6: a whole different all of wax, and there is no

798
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 6: running away. You can't run outside the cage. You can't

799
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 6: stop the session. You know your coach can't really go

800
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 6: in there.

801
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 7: And save you. You're in there for better or worse.

802
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 6: And Umar found out what it's like to face someone

803
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 6: like Morob dwaalash feeling.

804
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 5: And I tell Kenny, you'll appreciate this. You know you've

805
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: been in fights and it's a cliche, but you know

806
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: you're sitting on the corner, you're tired, and your coach

807
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: look at him and you see the guy breathing heavy,

808
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: his stomach's going in and out, and you get a

809
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 5: new sense of energy. But imagine looking over in the

810
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: court of guy's laughing. You're guessing out of breath, you're

811
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: out of breath, and your coach goes, look at him.

812
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: What am I looking at the guys he's dancing in

813
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: the corner. I mean, that's the difference. He's never dude,

814
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: he's look, he's a That nickname is so that that

815
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: might be the best nickname ever the machine. I agree

816
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not sure he's uming now myself,

817
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: and I know him for fifteen years.

818
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 7: There's a couple movies out there.

819
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 6: It's about Steve Prefontaine, who is a runner back in

820
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 6: the day, and yeah, and he used to say this,

821
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 6: and this is what it reminds me.

822
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 7: It reminds me.

823
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 6: It reminds me of Mirob and that he said, you know,

824
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 6: it's not a race until I see that, you know,

825
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 6: my opponents are tired.

826
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: I make it about heart. I sprint from the get go.

827
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 6: There is no pacing, There is no me I'm gonna,

828
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 6: you know, take it easy for a certain round or

829
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 6: for a certain lap. I go hard as hell right

830
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 6: from the beginning. And I make it a battle of will.

831
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: And that's what Marab makes it because he knows what

832
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 6: he's made of. He can suffer better than you. And

833
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 6: that's what Marab makes it. He makes it a fight

834
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: about who can suffer better.

835
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, and he can suffer. Yeah.

836
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: It's amazing, It really is amazing to unpack everything that

837
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: he is as he sits here now with one of

838
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: the top ten longest winning streaks in USC history, as

839
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: arguably the greatest bantam weight of all time and that's

840
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: not a conversation we need to have. But when you

841
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: look at this wins list, part of the frustration with

842
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: Team Dwallish Willie, with Umar R Mogo Mattam getting this

843
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: championship opportunity was that there's no Jose Aldo, Henry Suhudo

844
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: pyodur Yan scalp that preceded this championship opportunity. Even though

845
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: the Corey Sanhagen win was outstanding. There's some mo more

846
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: stuff I want to get into. But first, really quickly,

847
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: if I could on Morob, can you show us the

848
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: cut that we all knew existed and then we could

849
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: finally talk about on the broadcast. Can you pull out

850
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 3: your phone and show us the cut? Oh you sent

851
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: this to Cody, all right, so Cody's gonna show us

852
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: this cut here of what Morob Dwallas Willy was dealing with.

853
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: He cut this on the bleachers at the syndicate. MMA

854
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: Gym and John Wood suggested that this eventually got infected.

855
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: They tried to stitch it up, but then it reopened

856
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: and they really thought that this fight actually might be

857
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: in jeopardy based upon this, And I imagine Morob dealt

858
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: a lot of challenges training through it. Go ahead, yeah,

859
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: telling me to stall. I mean, you're producing the show now.

860
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: By the way, what are you By the way, when

861
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: do you have to leave? Just tell us when you

862
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: have to leave? All right? Yeah, that's the cut. No,

863
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: I mean I saw Danny Rube showed me an absolutely

864
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: gnarly picture of this. I can't even believe the extent

865
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: to which it healed.

866
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 5: That's the picture I just showed you. That's the picture

867
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 5: I took. And when I took that picture, know what

868
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 5: he said to me, Ray, I go, you can't fight

869
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 5: with that. I mean, it's you. You're infected there.

870
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: I go, uh, it looks much worse than that.

871
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 5: Worse than that. So when I seen listen, when I

872
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 5: seen that, he told me. Know what he told me, Kenny,

873
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 5: I just started kicking with it today. I'm good.

874
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: Oh god, there it is.

875
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: That's a nice close up there, Cody. Yeah, that's nasty, man,

876
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: because that's after that's after heat. He thinks it's healed

877
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 4: right there, right. He thinks you just saw it was healed.

878
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: Beautiful, Kenny. You just have to be a of a

879
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: different mindset to train through that. But and Morob said

880
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: in his postfight remarks. He said he heard Umar suggest that, oh,

881
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Morob will probably pull out of the fight, and then

882
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: he's like, well, now I can't pull out of the fight.

883
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: If medically I'm forced out of it, I guess, so

884
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: be it. But he's just he's not to pull it

885
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: out tight. No, no, he's not unless maybe it comes

886
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: to pro creation, you know, So good for Pallis Willie

887
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: when it comes to everything that accompanies this. And let

888
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 3: me just say real quickly, Ray, and then I'll give

889
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: you the floor. So John Wood, amazingly humble man, a tremendous,

890
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: tremendous coach, deserves certainly a ton of credit. He was

891
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: there in the trenches rob every day. Okay, but how

892
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 3: about Ray logo?

893
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: Right?

894
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean, how about this guy getting it done again?

895
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: You know, the two greatest pand weights of all time.

896
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: That says nothing of Chris Wiman or Matt Sarah and

897
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: this guy and how old he is now getting it

898
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: done across multiple generations. I mean, dude, look at you, man,

899
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: one of the greatest cornermen coaches of all time.

900
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so much. You didn't like the.

901
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: Call, though, you said, if you mute the commentary you

902
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: think it's for one. I mean, I thought Omar got

903
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: a lot done over the first ten minutes.

904
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 5: You know, but I'll tell you enough. But but very

905
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: close though either way, right they were close rounds or

906
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 5: you think he ran away with those rounds.

907
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: No close, you know, But.

908
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 5: He outstruck Uma. He out controlled time Umar seven to

909
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 5: two on the takedowns. Where where'd that come from? Nobody

910
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 5: would I'll tell you one thing. Nobody was worried going

911
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 5: into the third round. I agree, we weren't sure, but

912
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: we knew he was gonna pick it up. And I

913
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: and I think, uh, you know, if he's gonna get

914
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 5: Umar was gonna be in the later round, So why

915
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 5: go crazy at the beginning. So because maybe he laid

916
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: back a little bit, he gave the guy a little

917
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 5: bit of his shine to look good, but never in

918
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 5: any danger he got well, he think of his legs

919
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 5: buckled one time. I'll give him that. I would give

920
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 5: him probably that round. But uh but just based on that,

921
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 5: but nothing else. But hey, listen, it goes back to

922
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 5: what I said last week, and I'm not This is

923
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 5: not disrespectful. First of all, the utmost respect for kuld

924
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 5: be the utmost respect for howve and Mendez. And I'll

925
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: tell you, as a coach, that's this is what you

926
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: look for. You want to coach against the best coaches.

927
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: I love it.

928
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

929
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 5: Wouldn't lose a drawer. Look, they got us, you know

930
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 5: Howvea got me on the rock cold fight. You know whatever,

931
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 5: it's all good. I love the guy. I hope he

932
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: I hope he likes me. But you know what I mean,

933
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 5: like it's those what the coaches do. They want to

934
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: go against the best coaches, just like a fighter. So

935
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: that night, to me was just fantastic. You know, everything

936
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: was jelling, that was in sync. You know, you're against

937
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: a good team. I don't even know if they've ever

938
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 5: lost a fight, but you know, it was all it

939
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: was all good. Now I lost where the hell I

940
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 5: was going with that, But I think that was no.

941
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: The first two the first two rounds, I think Morob

942
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 5: was I'm not saying chilling, but he wasn't. He didn't

943
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: want to expose himself there when he knows, we know

944
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 5: he has the gas tank for the last three hard rounds,

945
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: you know.

946
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I feel like that's the thing, you know,

947
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 6: when you know you can go hard for all five rounds.

948
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 6: It almost sure it matters overall in the scorecards. But

949
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 6: as long as you can keep that guy going at

950
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 6: a pace that is he's more comfortable going at, you're

951
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 6: setting yourself hopefully for the ultimate checkmate. And I was

952
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 6: just teaching a clause about jiu jitsu on this. You

953
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 6: don't need to pass the guard right away. You just

954
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 6: need to get them to work enough to the point

955
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 6: you do eventually pass.

956
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 3: They're done. They have nothing left.

957
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 6: You defeated them mentally, and they've spent all their energy

958
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: in the process. And that's what's so great about is that,

959
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, It's like I'm running at

960
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: full speed, but the other guy's only running at eighty percent,

961
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 6: but we're still at.

962
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 7: The same pace.

963
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 6: Over time, I'm going to be exhausted and that person

964
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 6: is going to start to run away from me. And

965
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 6: and that's the benefit of having that kind of engine

966
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 6: or or gas take if you will, that Morob duwalash

967
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 6: Peel he has.

968
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, just an amazing work in the corner.

969
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 5: Ray.

970
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 6: You know, the people you go to war with is

971
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 6: very is obviously a very important component of that.

972
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: You've been with him since the beginning.

973
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 6: He trusts you and and that that was awesome to see.

974
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. I thought it was. I thought everybody

975
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 5: was yelling.

976
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know.

977
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 5: I can't say enough about this kid. Look who was

978
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 5: He's in a weird spot. Those guys are not used

979
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 5: to losen.

980
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: No.

981
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 5: But you know it's like even you take like and

982
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 5: Hagen could have beat that guy. There's no question in

983
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 5: my mind he could have. But he the first off,

984
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 5: Corey's got to make a lot of I think mentally,

985
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 5: he's got to make something. I heard him talk about

986
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 5: fighting space and time and it sounded like Neil de

987
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 5: gris Tyson. Dude, it's a fucking fight. Go in there,

988
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 5: impose your fucking will on the guy and get it done.

989
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 5: This is what where Cody made. I believe Cody made missake.

990
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: His defensive wrestling was good, but he never put him

991
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 5: on the offense.

992
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: And he didn't have on the gas.

993
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, because if you listen to him talk,

994
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 5: he's too cerebral. Yeah, this ain't a it is a

995
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 5: cerebral game, but dude, this is an animalistic, bare bones fight.

996
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: Just fucking you can't if you're thinking like that, Yeah,

997
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 5: you think this is fucking algebra.

998
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: And that's real. That's a real thing. That thing, you

999
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 3: know what I mean, you have.

1000
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 5: To be It's paralysis by analysis. And I think that's

1001
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: what Cody's suffering right now because I saw him fight

1002
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 5: a great fight against Umwal and I believe he could

1003
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: have won that fight. And I think, I swear to God,

1004
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: I think Trevor told him the right shit in that fight,

1005
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 5: but I don't think he was able to process it

1006
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 5: because of the way whatever's going on up there. But

1007
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 5: you have to keep these guys on their back foot.

1008
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 5: That was mob. I don't want you taking a step backwards.

1009
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 5: We're going forward. You keep that pace on him. He

1010
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 5: doesn't like it. He's not used to it. He's used

1011
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 5: to controlling the pace. Yeah, even in the coach I mean,

1012
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 5: his only big fight. You know, they get in the positions,

1013
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 5: they'd sit there for a while. Yeah, you're letting the

1014
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 5: guy breathe. Yeah, you're not getting submitted. But you're not

1015
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 5: doing what Kenny said. You're not making the guy work

1016
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 5: any position. He had to work with Marab, he never

1017
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 5: stopped and eventually that's going to break.

1018
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 6: You down and Ray similar to islamhashev as we were

1019
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 6: talking about before.

1020
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 7: You know, again, these are very well rounded fighters.

1021
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 6: And however, when you know you can take someone down,

1022
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 6: it makes things a lot more comfortable.

1023
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: And every time Umar shot a Mob.

1024
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 7: He ran into a damn wall.

1025
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 6: Marob was just so on point with his defensive wrestling

1026
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 6: and that kind of freaked Umar out a little bit

1027
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 6: when he was not successful with his takedown, which is

1028
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 6: a big component to his game, you know, still not

1029
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 6: as diverse as Islamahasha and still coming up with that

1030
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 6: experience when he was running into a wall against Morob,

1031
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 6: I think it freaked him out a little bit too.

1032
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: So I feel like if I factually tell people right

1033
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: now that Umar normago Medov broke his hand in the fight,

1034
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: to some people, that actually lands as if I'm a

1035
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: fucking normago Medov apologist, right, I am just submitting to

1036
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: you that it happened in the fight, and Umar n

1037
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: mago Medov's body language when he went back to the

1038
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: stool despite being up to nil on I think most

1039
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 3: scorecards out there, I think was a man that's like, oh,

1040
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: I might have to change some things up now. It's

1041
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: a war of attrition, right, and you gotta fight through

1042
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 3: the broken hand. And I don't know if the tape

1043
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 3: suggests that he threw it less often or didn't throw

1044
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: it at all. I don't know, right, But best of

1045
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: luck trying to outlast Marob Dwalish Willie mentally, physically, genetically,

1046
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 3: spiritually over twenty five minutes. Right. But when I suggest

1047
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 3: that there should be a rematch, right, part of the

1048
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: reason I'm doing so is because I think that's the

1049
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: most competitive fight based upon those twenty five minutes that

1050
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: I just saw. Joe Rogan called that the greatest bantam

1051
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: weight championship fight that he's ever seen, and I believe

1052
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: he said that Umar and Morob are the two greatest

1053
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: bandom weights he's ever seen. And yeah, people can scoff

1054
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: at that too, But this modern era has the best fighters, right,

1055
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: al Jamain Sterling's one of the greatest bandom weights of

1056
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: all time. Maybe these guys are distance and distant themselves

1057
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: a little bit from my dear friend Dominica Cruz because

1058
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: it's the modern era. But when I submit to the

1059
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: messes a poll question forced to choose one bandam weight

1060
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: to beat Morob to save a dog's life, who you

1061
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: send it in there? Most people are sending Umar fifty

1062
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: percent of people are sending Umar and maybe somebody saying

1063
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: patchy Mix, who's Morob's teammate and friend. You know, I'm

1064
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: just saying, if I'm trying to save a dog's life,

1065
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm sending a healthy Umar back in that. So, you know,

1066
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: I think he needs some humility or whatever. You Yeah,

1067
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: I think I think it's mean.

1068
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think one other thing too, would with where

1069
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 5: I think happened in the fight, and he too, is

1070
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 5: you know, before the fight, like Gumar, I'm not gonna

1071
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 5: get tired. That didn't happen. Right now, we're getting tired.

1072
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 5: You know, they're so pre programmed because they're so dominant.

1073
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: You know, he's not going to break Saint Pierre's record.

1074
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 5: He's not taking that happened. He got so Morob came

1075
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 5: through on his word with everything he said, and Umar

1076
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 5: unfortunately couldn't back up what he was saying. And I

1077
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 5: think when you get in there and you start going

1078
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: holy shit, it's it's it starts a cascade of just

1079
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 5: tumbling downhill and you just start suffocating and sinking and

1080
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 5: like quicksand I mean, I don't know, I mean I

1081
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 5: just thought that I was blown away by the fight.

1082
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 5: I'm so happy for Morob.

1083
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 6: And John to go back what you were saying. I

1084
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 6: I think it's important. I think I think it's important

1085
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 6: to talk about Listen.

1086
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: I think that if you're facing a guy like.

1087
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 6: Marob Dualas, and of course it's a world championship fight,

1088
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 6: you want all your limbs to fight someone with a

1089
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 6: broken hand, it's not easy, Okay, So that sucks. And

1090
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 6: I would even say it's even that much more oppressive

1091
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 6: that he went the full five rounds against someone like Marab.

1092
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: It shows how damn good Morab is and Umar Sorry is.

1093
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 6: And I think you're right, John, I think that is

1094
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 6: the most competitive fight that you can make in the

1095
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty five pound division.

1096
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 7: So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a rematch.

1097
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 6: I think they'll probably we'll have someone else, but I

1098
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 6: definitely believe we will see them fight again, and I

1099
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 6: can't wait to that. That was one of the best

1100
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 6: fights I've seen. It is just awesome, and it took

1101
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 6: place everywhere that that's what makes it so much fun,

1102
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 6: Just the drama.

1103
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 7: The emotions from both fighters up it was perfect.

1104
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you need all of that to make a great fight,

1105
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 5: and that was that was that that's the Ali Frasier

1106
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 5: for those guys, you know what I mean, they needed

1107
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 5: each other to kind of do that, you know.

1108
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 6: And I also talked about this on Twitter, but Ray,

1109
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 6: and how cool is it that, you know, with all

1110
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 6: the circumstances around this fight, and how Morob you know,

1111
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 6: didn't really you know, had to deal with all this stuff.

1112
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: He came out even more of a legend after this

1113
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: fight that he was before.

1114
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's how you, you know, solidify yourself

1115
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 6: as a legend.

1116
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: That was amazing.

1117
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 5: You know what he should do. He should fucking retire

1118
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 5: you and fucking drive everybody crazy right now. Just get

1119
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 5: the fuck out of here. You don't need anything else

1120
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 5: that people will they'll they'll, they'll die. Everybody wants the guy.

1121
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 5: I said, that's what you should do, and everybody will

1122
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 5: go nuts.

1123
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 3: So it really is interesting where they are at when

1124
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: it comes to the spand and weight division right now.

1125
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: And I do think they'll probably let the umarn and

1126
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 3: Mago Metov, Morob Dwallash Willie rematch marinate because it stands

1127
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: to reason that it would come around again. But I

1128
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: do find it interesting this juxtaposition when it comes to

1129
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: Umar and mago Metov and his relative humility and ray.

1130
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 3: It seems to me anytime I go long winded today

1131
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: at all, you redirect the conversation to Kenny. So I

1132
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: don't know if there's an act to grind there, but no, no,

1133
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: I'm concerned. This kid has been an absolute beacon of

1134
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: humility every step of the way. He handles himself so

1135
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 3: graciously and gracefully with our staff early to the fighter meeting,

1136
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: very giving up himself. Now, yeah, he's got to eat

1137
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: a little bit of crow. I guess in some part

1138
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: in my opinion in terms of things he said about,

1139
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: you know, Morob as a striker and just how low

1140
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: level and amateurish he is. But you know, two things

1141
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: can also be true. Anthony Smith, my colleague, maybe corrected

1142
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: me that you know, Morob could maybe you know, have

1143
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: some relative sloppiness to his striking, but he's one of

1144
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: the most effective strikers in mixed martial arts and that's

1145
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: why he has you know, title defenses now a one

1146
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five pounds. So, but I think Umar

1147
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: is going to be back, and I think he's the

1148
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 3: biggest problem in this division for your guy still.

1149
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, as John to your point, I'm going back to you.

1150
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: But it was almost like Umar had a magnet on

1151
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: his head. Morob couldn't miss him with the right hand.

1152
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 5: As bad as his stand up is, and they think

1153
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 5: his boxing is, he landed that right hand over and

1154
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 5: over and over.

1155
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: Again, no doubt about it.

1156
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 5: And we really body shots were pretty cool too, man.

1157
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 5: So he did He did everything.

1158
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 3: And we should be celebrating obviously, Morob Dulash Willie. It

1159
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: becomes sort of hard to quantify him as a broadcaster

1160
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: and some of this, some of this has to be genetics, Ray,

1161
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: but I think a lot of it maybe is more

1162
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: rooted in the way you led the conversation, just in

1163
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: terms of his ability to relax.

1164
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I think I said it already. You know that.

1165
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 5: That's it. That's what it is. It's a guy that

1166
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 5: really enjoys what he's doing. It has that was born

1167
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 5: with with good DNA for cardio and who works at it.

1168
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 5: There's nobody anybody that knows Morob. No matter where you are,

1169
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: everybody's gonna he outworks everybody. He always did from day one.

1170
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I love about Chris's father in law,

1171
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 5: rist In piece Finney. Uh, he saw that kid, he goes,

1172
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: that's the guy. He would see that guy on the

1173
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 5: treadmill lift everybody was wrapping up and going home. He goes,

1174
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 5: that's your guy right there. And so it was evident

1175
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 5: from the beginning with the car that's you know, you're

1176
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 5: never gonna get Anybody says anything different because he's he

1177
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 5: and over and over and over and over and over again. Yeah,

1178
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 5: never waving well.

1179
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: And I do think some people can overtrain and get

1180
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: away with it, you know. And I do think there's

1181
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: some rudelings in terms of that Nirmago Medov team right,

1182
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: never undertrain, perhaps bordering on overtraining at times. Who knows, right,

1183
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: but not everybody can overtrain. And we look forward to

1184
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: the rebuild for Umar. He and Sean O'Malley are both

1185
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: on the Men Ray And it's interesting because al Jamain

1186
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: Sterling obviously his bandamweight days are done right. But it's

1187
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: like if you're trying to find a fighter who actually

1188
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: could beat Morob, you know, maybe it's a prime algae

1189
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: at one hundred and thirty five pounds, but as you

1190
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: look at this division, Ray Corey Sandhagen, you know, is

1191
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: a fresh matchup, you know, But beyond that, right, it's

1192
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: all rematches. It's Pyoduran, who you attempted forty nine takedowns

1193
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: against and largely dominated over five rounds. He's coming off

1194
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: a win over Davison, Figuretto, Sean O'Malley, Kenny and Ray

1195
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: has that X factor obviously, that death touch, that knockout

1196
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: power and certainly separating morob from consciousness, you know, and

1197
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: having a referee step in is one way to beat him.

1198
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: But what do you think in terms of what might

1199
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: be next for your guy and on what kind of timeline.

1200
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: If he wants six months now, I suggest he'd take them.

1201
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 5: I don't think he even wants to SI now. I

1202
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 5: think he's actually mad. He wants to prove a point.

1203
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 5: I think that you easily see this guy fight three

1204
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 5: more times this year with injuries you know, excluded, There's

1205
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 5: no question about it. Yeah, all those things. I think

1206
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 5: O'Malley's the next fight though. Yeah, I think O'Malley's going

1207
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 5: to be the next fight, if you're asking me. But

1208
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's I'm you know, it is what

1209
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 5: it is. But you know, i'd rather see O'Malley fight

1210
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: Uma and the winner gets a rematch.

1211
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense, I know.

1212
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 5: What I mean, give like a Figuredo or san Hagen

1213
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 5: something like that.

1214
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: And san Haagen are both coming off of losses, as

1215
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: is Sean O'Malley. So unless Sean can't fight, I would

1216
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: say there's a very small percent chance that they would

1217
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: give Figuretto or san Hagen a title fight over the

1218
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: former champion of that division, O'Malley, because they're coming off losses.

1219
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 5: Right, I think I think O'Malley's the fight John. I

1220
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 5: don't know why, but he had.

1221
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 3: A oh you don't know why, you know why?

1222
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 5: No, No, no, I know I'm saying I think he

1223
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 5: had a torn labram though he had an injury, but

1224
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 5: I think you get he should be good to go

1225
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: at this point. I think, I don't know, I don't know.

1226
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I think that makes a lot of sense, uh,

1227
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: financially and otherwise. I think for some people they were

1228
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: so underwhelmed by that main event between Morob and Sean O'Malley. Right,

1229
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: And I think you and I and K I mean,

1230
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm just cebmitting to you that people were underwhelmed by

1231
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 3: we all get caught up and rob breaking through the

1232
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: champion high level wrestling. We all think it's amazing, right,

1233
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 3: I'm just saying the masses didn't think that main event

1234
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: was amazing. And you know, I think a lot of

1235
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: people feel like, oh, Dwallish Willy. I mean, Dana Cormier

1236
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: said it on pay per view right now, O'Malley can't

1237
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 3: Dwallish Willie V O'Malley two. What is going to be different?

1238
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: DC said, and then Rogan said, well, Sean's making changes.

1239
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: He's off social media. And then DC said, well, now

1240
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: I'm back in. I'm just telling you people feel like

1241
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: they're going to see a similar fight.

1242
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 5: It's hard to make changes in a couple of months,

1243
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 5: you know, like physical changes. So good luck with that.

1244
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 5: He could make a couple of changes. I'm sure they

1245
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 5: saw something, but it is what it is. I mean, well,

1246
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 5: whoever he fights, I think he's just so content where

1247
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 5: he's at. I don't think he gives a shit about anything,

1248
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 5: and I think he's look you look at his The

1249
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 5: stans are just overwhelming with this guy, twelve straight. Hey, listen.

1250
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 5: The other thing is I didn't think he lost the

1251
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 5: first two fights. I could make him fourteen and oh,

1252
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 5: I know, if you think about it, right, I always

1253
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 5: was bitching about that I could make him fourteen and

1254
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 5: oh he broke Saint Pierre's recked.

1255
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: By the way, he's gonna get another.

1256
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 5: Twenty takedowns before he's done. Who's gonna break that record?

1257
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 5: That record will look for money. Well, I love it.

1258
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 6: I love pumping up one hundred and fifty five pound division,

1259
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 6: but as I look at this list, at one hundred

1260
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 6: and thirty five pounds, that might be the most difficult

1261
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 6: division in the UFC. I mean, look at look at

1262
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 6: who's not the Sean O'Malley, former champion, Pyotr Yon, former

1263
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 6: champion Davis figureto another champion.

1264
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you have.

1265
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 6: Jose Aldo at number eleven in that division, and I

1266
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: know he's older, but come on, that has been Henry

1267
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 6: Shudo at seven, and there's a bunch of guys before

1268
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 6: him that that are also world champions.

1269
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 7: That division is insane.

1270
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 6: And for Morob to be a champion right now amongst

1271
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 6: all of those dudes says a lot.

1272
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 5: You know, I think I'd like to see even you

1273
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 5: bring up that name. I'd like to see Umar against

1274
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 5: Jose Aldo. I think that's a great fight. Even though

1275
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 5: Aldo's older, he stuffs the takedowns. His stand up's good. Look.

1276
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: I want to see Sean O'Malley versus Jose Alto.

1277
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 5: That's oh, that's good too. There's a lot of great

1278
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 5: fights they could make. There really is. But Anthony Smith

1279
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 5: said something I totally agree with when he was talking

1280
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 5: about Morob and you just said that, John, was that

1281
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 5: you need somebody with that lights out power.

1282
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 7: The only way you're gonna beat.

1283
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 5: That's the only way you're gonna beat him. And when

1284
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: we were looking at Umar, like I said last week,

1285
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 5: unless I'm missing something, I didn't see him as that guy.

1286
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 5: He doesn't look like he's got the zap on his

1287
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 5: punches like these other guys. And I just like again

1288
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 5: I said, I could be wrong, It could be That's

1289
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 5: why I gave that Willie Peb Sugar Ray Robinson. Is

1290
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 5: he going to be the next superstar that I don't know,

1291
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 5: But you know, I I looked at the tape, I go,

1292
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 5: I'm not. I don't feel threatened anywhere, Like there was

1293
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 5: nothing that dominating to me, you know, except for the wrestling,

1294
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 5: which I knew he was gonna be able to you

1295
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 5: know subdue.

1296
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: How do you stop yourself from being absolutely overwhelmed by

1297
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 3: Morob Dwallas Willie. That is the quesh. Later today, coming

1298
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: up in about twenty five minutes, we will talk to

1299
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 3: for Rosa Hobby. He is the chief corner for two

1300
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: of the guys right now who are chasing down that champion.

1301
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 3: His brother Amin's a Hobby, number thirteen in the world,

1302
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: number nine in the world, Rob font who fights Domina

1303
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: Cruz obviously coming up next month in Seattle. One name

1304
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 3: that nobody is gonna mention is number ten in the world.

1305
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: Mario Bautista, coming off a contentious win over Joseado. I

1306
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 3: bring it up in this context. I love Mario, I

1307
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: love the camp from which he comes, John Crouch, everything else.

1308
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: But if you're Mario Bautista watching Marob this weekend, you

1309
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: got one of the longest winning streaks in this division,

1310
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: you got long range weaponry, you're another one of these

1311
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: hardest workers in the room, you got a great frame

1312
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: for the division can flow. And you're watching Morob and

1313
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: you're thinking, like, what's this guy made of and what

1314
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: exactly is my path to victory? Because sure Bautista could

1315
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 3: could land a spinning wheel kick, but right, like right,

1316
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's his best luck to everybody at a

1317
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: hundred thirty five pounds, including my guy super Mario.

1318
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 7: Okay, it's still along road.

1319
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 5: I mean he's the rob fight looks good. You should

1320
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 5: take that fight?

1321
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: What's that? Who should take that fight?

1322
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 5: Well? These other guys fight the Cruz. Listen? Oh is

1323
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 5: he fight Dominic? Hey? Listen, you gotta give it up

1324
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: to marub when they asked her about the greatest band

1325
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 5: and where he goes? No Al Jamaine Sterling and Dominic Cruz.

1326
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy couldn't care less about all of

1327
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 5: that ship. These people think they're going to get him

1328
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 5: with you. He's so grounded, it's like it means nothing

1329
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 5: to him. But he gave Dominic Cruze. You gotta love it,

1330
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 5: you gotta love it.

1331
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to Seattle to support Dominic Cruz as a fan.

1332
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm not calling the live event. He's one of my

1333
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: best friends in the world. Right But Morob Dwallish Willie's

1334
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: wins list his strength of schedule right now on paper.

1335
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: In my mind, if you wanted to have that conversation

1336
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: is impossible with which to contend, even respect to Al

1337
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: Jamine Sterling. Yeah, you can't. You can't mess with Morob Kenny.

1338
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: You can't mess with former champions left and right. He's

1339
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: fucking picking up Henry Shudo, dominating Jose Aldo and the

1340
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: clinch at altitude Pyotr jan right in a main event.

1341
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 3: He has a win over Sean O'Malley and now Umar

1342
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: Nirmago Menov case closed.

1343
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 5: Numbers wise, numbers wise, you can't argue on paper those

1344
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 5: stats are fucking crazy.

1345
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: Dom wouldn't argue it.

1346
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 5: I don't think so. No, he's there was a time.

1347
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: When he would maybe, Yeah, you argue it.

1348
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: Now this is getting The stats are crazy. They're crazy.

1349
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just hope somebody out there made some

1350
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 3: fucking money on Morob Dwell in that plus two forty range.

1351
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 5: So oh, I don't. I don't want to give them

1352
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 5: name away. But a buddy of mine been thirty thousand

1353
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 5: on Moro. Whoa I love sixty, Yeah, I love it.

1354
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 3: That line should not have been that.

1355
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 5: Look, hey, John, Yes, if Umar's name was Joe Smith,

1356
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 5: who's favorite in that fight? Morob one hundred pea. Look,

1357
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 5: Kabeep did a great job. That name means something.

1358
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 3: It really they also needed a great job getting out

1359
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 3: to a two nail lead against the greatest band weight

1360
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,959
Speaker 3: of all time. I'm just saying, like I'm not trying.

1361
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 3: Iy I tweeted so good, it's so good. Oh it is,

1362
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: and it isn't right. It's fine because my my my

1363
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 3: skin is you know, thicker than it was when I

1364
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: was thirty. The rematch. I tweet the word rematch, and

1365
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: I got the whole fan base against me, which is

1366
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 3: no because.

1367
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 5: But John, because they're saying he didn't deserve the first fight.

1368
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 5: Now you want to give him a rematch, make him

1369
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 5: earn the second fight at least. And for all the

1370
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 5: guys that said Morob was ducking him, go fuck yourself

1371
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 5: and am admit that you were fucking wrong and stop.

1372
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 5: Don't come up with ship and start attacking me. Your

1373
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 5: fucking bunch of morons. That guy's afraid of somebody. Guy's

1374
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 5: fighting every day of his life. Who's he afraid of?

1375
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: So I agree with most of what you said except

1376
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: the guarantee that Umar needs a win to get back there. Yes,

1377
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: Umar would absolutely sign on the dotted line to fight

1378
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: Sean O'Malley. Are they gonna give him that opportunity? Who

1379
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: are they gonna have Umar fight. Are they gonna give

1380
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: him Jose Aldo? Right, he'll work himself back if need be.

1381
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 3: He's not going to command a title fight. But in

1382
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: terms of how did he quit himself in this fight?

1383
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: Right without bringing the broken hand into the conversation, got

1384
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 3: off to a nice start against a guy who usually

1385
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: wins and beats you five nil. So for me, I

1386
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: say rematch because I think that's the most competitive one

1387
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five pound fight right now. But no,

1388
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 3: I don't think Umar won the fight. That's not a

1389
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 3: conversation to be had. I don't know, man. You know,

1390
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: it's like I feel like sometimes I'm damned if I

1391
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 3: do damned if I don't.

1392
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 5: You know, But that's your job, though, you're gonna that

1393
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 5: comes with the territory.

1394
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: No, yes, so Ray, would you rather be trapped on? No,

1395
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.

1396
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 5: I go if you were gonna go do that's crazy?

1397
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 5: Go have it such a good time. Yeah, I'd rather.

1398
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 5: You know what I would rather have done. I would

1399
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 5: rather have went to bed that night than pulling all night.

1400
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 5: That's what I would dude. You know I didn't sleep

1401
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 5: for like forty hours.

1402
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 3: Really tell us what happens after a win like this,

1403
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: because right to beat a power team like this, this

1404
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 3: was a title defense that had a challenging training camp

1405
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: on the front of it. Morob was not healthy in

1406
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: more ways than one. Right, And even though you guys

1407
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 3: know you're not any underdog, right, you're still wondering, Man,

1408
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 3: why is this guy at three or what is going

1409
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 3: on here? Is this guy brings something that we don't know?

1410
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 3: You know, So, like, what is it like after a

1411
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 3: win like this? Right, y'all? Just like puff out your chests?

1412
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing?

1413
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're puffing out your chest. You know you're getting

1414
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 5: it now. The adrenaline starting to wear off from the fight.

1415
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 5: You're starting to look for food around twelve o'clock because

1416
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 5: you haven't eaten in fucking eighteen hours, right, And then

1417
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 5: you do, you know, you gotta watch Morob do fifth

1418
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 5: the interviews. Then you finally get back on the bus.

1419
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 5: By the time you get back to the hotel, the

1420
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 5: bars closed, so you gotta go somewhere else to get

1421
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 5: a drink. You gotta you know, meet and greet everybody

1422
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 5: when you get back. And then you start thinking about

1423
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 5: having to, you know, be at the airport at five

1424
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 5: in the morning, so you don't want a chance blowing

1425
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 5: your flight because it was snowing that back in New York.

1426
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 5: So I don't want to miss that. I gotta get

1427
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 5: on that flight. So I don't even want a chance

1428
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 5: to even taking a two hour and that because I

1429
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 5: want to make sure I'm up, so I get to

1430
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 5: the airport early. And luckily I'm a Delta one lounge

1431
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 5: type of guy, so you know, you can take a shower,

1432
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 5: get some food.

1433
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 3: And oh shower at the airport. That's nice airline that

1434
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: I didn't do, but you could do anything.

1435
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 5: Then they got massage tables. That that place is wild.

1436
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice. Ray, that's nice having that type of treatment.

1437
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: Would you rather have a mullet for a year or

1438
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: completely bald for six months? Right, I'm sorry, I'm just

1439
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 3: getting listen.

1440
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 5: First off, I'm gonna fucking kill Aljio. He's filming this

1441
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 5: walking out. I didn't realize I'm bold in the back.

1442
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 5: I never see the back of my head.

1443
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: Yes you are.

1444
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 5: I'm miserable. I'm actually miserable right now.

1445
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: You should shave your head. Please don't go to Turkey

1446
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 3: and get a hair transplant. I give me Maybe Ron

1447
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: can go together.

1448
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 5: I think next time I'm putting the Yamaka n covers

1449
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 5: that spot up perfectly about black Yamaica and they will

1450
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 5: a difference.

1451
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, yep yeah. Last time I wore one,

1452
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 3: I think was my Bene Mitzvah in nineteen ninety one,

1453
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 3: And even on that day, I was fighting my mother

1454
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: about having to wear that.

1455
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 5: Like that's all I gotta say, life for sure?

1456
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: All right, let's go anything else before we let you go?

1457
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 3: I have two other notes on the way out, but

1458
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know if there was anything else pressing on

1459
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 3: Rob Wallash Willie. I think we've exhausted that.

1460
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 5: I think so.

1461
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 3: So there's this uh team format MMA coming up. I

1462
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 3: believe it's called GFL Cody. Is that accurate?

1463
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1464
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 3: I believe there was maybe some sort of press release. Yeah,

1465
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 3: my producer loves me bringing the supper. You're welcome, So.

1466
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 5: I'll do your producer a favor.

1467
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 3: Go ahead ask me, well, your name, Ray Longo's name

1468
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 3: was in the GFL press release. I believe that you

1469
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: will be part of some team here as some sort

1470
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 3: of coach or ambassador or leader. So what can you

1471
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: tell us about you?

1472
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck you're talking about?

1473
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 3: They had your face.

1474
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 6: Someone sent me someone sent me a picture of Ray

1475
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 6: as one of the coaches, and next to it is

1476
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 6: like an empty image of like, you know, just like

1477
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 6: a body shape. Something's like, is it you and Ray?

1478
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 6: So what is happening? Are you doing this or are

1479
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 6: they just stealing your name? What the hell is going on? U?

1480
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 5: No, I'm doing that. I'm not gonna say much today.

1481
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 5: We can discuss it next week. But h but the

1482
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 5: guy's a great guy.

1483
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 3: Uh.

1484
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 5: I think he's raised a lot of money and he

1485
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 5: wants the team format. He wants to treat the fighter's right.

1486
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 5: The guy's are super nice guy. He's hauts in the

1487
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,839
Speaker 5: right spot. And as long as he gets the funding,

1488
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 5: know which I think he already has, I think it's

1489
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 5: gonna be good. But I like the team format too.

1490
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 5: You know, I think Cave is coaching one of the

1491
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 5: teams out there.

1492
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 3: You know this, So it's uh, yeah, trash talk between

1493
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 3: Hobby and Mendez and Ray Longo going on right in

1494
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 3: front of me at the elevator bank in Angels. Yeah,

1495
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: you guys were going at it a little bit, and

1496
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 3: that was before the fight, and you just beat him

1497
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 3: in a really big fight last weekend.

1498
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 5: But it looks like everybody's everybody's gonna have fun with it,

1499
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 5: and uh, we'll see what we'll see what happens, but uh,

1500
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 5: I will tell you more about it next week for sure,

1501
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 5: next time.

1502
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 6: So this is like the end of the end of

1503
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 6: the episode that the next one to find out what happened, because.

1504
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 5: I think we have a draft coming up, so we

1505
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 5: have to draft our teams. It's I think it's a cool,

1506
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 5: cool concept, Kenny.

1507
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. I like it all right.

1508
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 3: My last note, Ray and I were part of a

1509
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 3: very special segment that was put together by our great

1510
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 3: producer Zach Candido to honor Chris Wadman in retirement retired

1511
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: on the u FC three eleven Way and Show, and

1512
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: Ray and I got to sort of pay our respects

1513
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 3: live on the air to Chris. Now. I did think

1514
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: that this was interesting because even as part of Chris

1515
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 3: Widman's amazing live on the air retirement speech, he did

1516
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 3: talk about maybe entertaining other offers. So I don't believe

1517
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 3: as I sit here that Chris is done in combat sports.

1518
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get that out there. But it was

1519
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 3: an amazing tribute, and we'll see what the future holds

1520
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: for a guy who I think should have a lot

1521
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 3: of options in television and other places.

1522
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, the only thing I'm going to say on that

1523
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 5: is Kenny never followed John. It's like following a good comedian.

1524
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 5: I the guy speaks so well and he's just rattling

1525
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 5: ship off. He's got no paper in front of him,

1526
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 5: like Algo starts going to me. I don't know what

1527
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 5: the fuck I'm gonna say. You know, he's almost did

1528
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 5: it like a marab onus. He demoralized us. I'm going

1529
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 5: holy shit with that. It's just one of my closest friends.

1530
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 7: You got.

1531
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 5: A little go least he he's got the gift of gab.

1532
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 5: I aspire to what you're doing. I'm not joking.

1533
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Well, I meant. I meant to mention Vinnie,

1534
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: and I forgot I mentioned him.

1535
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna figure Vinnie. And I also like to

1536
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 5: shout out doctor Sherry Wilkin, who was a big part

1537
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,959
Speaker 5: of my growth and always helped me out with like everything.

1538
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 5: She was the team doctor and went above and beyond

1539
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 5: anything that you can ask of any person. To just

1540
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 5: see these guys succeed, So losing Vinnie and her, like

1541
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 5: two of my biggest fans, just fucking horrible and just

1542
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 5: they loved that sport, they loved the people they were

1543
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 5: working with kind of sucks. But Vinnie, Vinnie was the

1544
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 5: fucking man. And uh, yeah, it was all good. It

1545
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 5: was good and what a great career. Shout out to

1546
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 5: Chris Man provided me with a lot of great moments

1547
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 5: and all the people we met and the laughs we

1548
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 5: had and we're still going to have in the future.

1549
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 5: Had a great time with him and al Joe this weekend.

1550
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 5: Al Joe pumping up his funk carbor rum. Uh, it's

1551
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 5: a good group of guys. Man. I wouldn't I wouldn't

1552
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 5: trade it for the world.

1553
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 3: Well, Ray Long go on top of the MMA world

1554
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,919
Speaker 3: here in twenty twenty five, ten years after we secured

1555
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 3: him for the anak Im Florian podcast.

1556
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 5: That's look how good this worried? Look how good this

1557
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 5: worked out.

1558
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: For you really knows what he's doing.

1559
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 5: That was good And I do remember I do remember

1560
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 5: that time I swear to guy. I remember I remember

1561
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 5: that exactly. But his his Zach words were, we want

1562
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 5: you to do like It'll just be a minute but

1563
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 5: we don't. Don't. I won't even ask anything about MMA.

1564
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 5: We could just talk about anything. Well, yeah, is that berect?

1565
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 3: No, it was gonna be more pop cultural in sure,

1566
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 3: and I guess it was gonna be, yeah, closer to

1567
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: five minutes. It wasn't going to be sixty seconds. But gosh, man,

1568
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 3: every time, like I said on TV, like I think

1569
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 3: chaill Son and in many respects is a master orator,

1570
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: even if he says PIEI ra and bla Hall when

1571
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: he's pronouncing fighters names. I like listening to chaill Son

1572
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 3: and talk. And at that point in time, as the

1573
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: MMA fan that I was, I just loved the sound

1574
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: of Ray Longo's voice. I thought it was like I

1575
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 3: just was like, I need that on my podcast. I

1576
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 3: need those New York tones on my podcast. We got them.

1577
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,520
Speaker 5: We got Coast Covid, Baby, we got the Holy Coast COVID.

1578
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna call you later today and apologize,

1579
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 3: and I have some other things I want to get into.

1580
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: I have a surprise for you later today. I'm gonna

1581
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: blow your fucking mind.

1582
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 5: Awesome. Definitely do call me later for sure.

1583
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 3: And you know what the hint is, Delta, that's your hint.

1584
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 5: Okay, oh man, I like it.

1585
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 3: Get out of here.

1586
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 5: I congratulations. We're going somewhere, Kenny cocculation, don't you. But

1587
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 5: don't overblow it. Don't get my hopes up and then

1588
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 5: sap them down.

1589
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna blow your mind in about two hours.

1590
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, I appreciate you guys. Really. I love doing

1591
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 5: this again this I'm the Morobov podcast. I do this

1592
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 5: shift and the other man love it. It doesn't matter.

1593
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 5: That's you know, that's what keeps you going. But you

1594
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 5: guys are the best. Thanks for everything. I will talk

1595
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 5: to you, John, call me later. I will.

1596
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 3: I'll call you later. There he is. Congratulations.

1597
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 5: Yeah right, hey, easy guys.

1598
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: Congrats man, ray Longo manute every week here on the

1599
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 3: Anak and Florian podcast. And Raymond should not be telling

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Speaker 3: slash audio. All right, indeed, back to our UFC three

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Speaker 3: eleven headlines right now, Uriprohaska Jamal Hill. At the three

1632
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 3: to oh one mark of round three, Uri Prohaska prevails.

1633
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 3: He gets the other former champion out of their CANFOLI

1634
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 3: your thoughts on that featured out in the light heavyweight division, Well,

1635
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 3: you know, I've been.

1636
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 6: Critical of Prohasca, and it's not his unorthodox approach. It

1637
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 6: was his maybe perceived lack of defense, and that was

1638
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 6: much improved and I truly believe that that was the

1639
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 6: difference maker in this fight. He has improved as a fighter.

1640
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 6: His movement looked a lot better. The way in which

1641
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 6: he was engaging the strikes was much cleaner and much

1642
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 6: slicker due to the fact that he was fainting his

1643
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 6: way in. He was showing Jamal Hill a lot getting

1644
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 6: in and getting out, which I thought was awesome. I

1645
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 6: thought his pull counter was tremendous against Jamal Hill and

1646
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 6: just looked much improved, looked to be even though he

1647
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 6: was supposedly cutting down eventually for one hundred and eighty

1648
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 6: five pounds, still looked absolutely massive in there and put

1649
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 6: on a great performance.

1650
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 3: Man. So it was interesting for me to watch the

1651
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 3: postfight press conference because I thought analytically Joe Rogan and

1652
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: Daniel Cormier gave a lot of credit to Uri Prohaska

1653
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 3: for his improved defense, and I feel like maybe at

1654
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: some point we were all critical or talking about Jamal

1655
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 3: Hill's hands at some point, but Uri Prohaska at the

1656
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 3: postfight press conference was pro about maybe the commentators not

1657
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 3: giving him credit, and it was the happiest, nicest fuck

1658
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 3: them when Uri Prosca was like, fuck them, you know,

1659
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 3: it was awesome. We love him. Our fighter meetings were amazing,

1660
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 3: as is our relationship with him. But I always do

1661
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 3: think it's interesting as a journalism major, it's almost like

1662
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 3: framing by the media, like leading the horse to water,

1663
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 3: like before Yuri can even watch the fight, so I'd

1664
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 3: have to watch it back. But I did think that

1665
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 3: we were complimentary of the strides that he made because

1666
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 3: my goodness can flow. Even though Alex Panada was the

1667
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 3: only man to have beaten him in the octagon coming

1668
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 3: into this fight, there was a lot on this fight

1669
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 3: for both men, and this is a huge win for

1670
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 3: Uri PROHSCA because it actually does open up the Alex

1671
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 3: Padata fight or a magabd An caliath. You know, and

1672
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 3: there was a time not all that long ago when

1673
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: pro Hosco was talking about middleweight. So you know, what

1674
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 3: do you think now about Yuri as he continues to

1675
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 3: progress and sort of learn himself. You know, he's married

1676
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: to the game. I mean, you don't have to worry

1677
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: about that.

1678
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I think it's been his approach

1679
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 6: and how he goes about that that has been maybe

1680
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 6: a little bit troublesome for me. But what's cool is

1681
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 6: he's retained his style, his unorthodox approach, but has improved

1682
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 6: on a technical level. And that is very important. You

1683
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 6: have to stay true to yourself and where your strengths lie,

1684
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 6: but also make those technical improvements and be honest with

1685
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 6: yourself and say what am I doing wrong? And Prohasca

1686
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 6: clearly has been analyzing that, has been looking where he's

1687
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 6: been going wrong and has made very good improvements. Now,

1688
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 6: if you want to beat a guy like Alex Paeda,

1689
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 6: he may need much more of that. But the fact

1690
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 6: that he's going in this direction is a very positive sign.

1691
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 6: And on the other side of things, yeah, Jamal Hill

1692
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 6: didn't make those adjustments and didn't make those improvements you

1693
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 6: know from his last couple of fights, and that too

1694
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 6: may have been the difference.

1695
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 3: So Anthony Smith, who is close with Jamal Hill, would

1696
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 3: submit to you that Jamal is just still gaining repetitions

1697
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: and accruing experience and still coming back from that injury.

1698
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 3: And he was in Nebraska for a long time. He's

1699
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 3: acquired Danny Malina, who is Anthony Smith's striking coach, to

1700
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: be a part of his corner. And you know, even

1701
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 3: during this training camp, Jamal Hill made a decision sort

1702
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,839
Speaker 3: of mid camp. You know, things are going well in Nebraska,

1703
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna spend some time here. So I do

1704
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 3: think the appetite now for improvement is there for Jamal Hill,

1705
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 3: even if the performance wasn't perfect. So I just think

1706
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 3: with Jamal Hill, Jamal Hill's pure athleticism, if you know,

1707
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 3: he continues to commit, I really think that he can

1708
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 3: be something in this division because Anthony Smith and I'll

1709
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: just end on this. I don't know if you have

1710
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 3: anything else on Jamal, but he said there's only two

1711
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 3: guys I've ever trained with that made me train differently,

1712
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 3: stepe A Miachich and Jamal Hill, meaning that the consequences

1713
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 3: of getting hit by them was such that he had

1714
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 3: to just treat that training training session almost like with

1715
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 3: protective mechanics.

1716
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'll say this, I think that what I

1717
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 6: saw in Jamal Hill was a guy that was looking

1718
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 6: for the big punches, but he was throwing himself off

1719
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 6: balance during that process.

1720
01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

1721
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 6: I think this is a less disciplined Jamal Hill to

1722
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 6: a certain extent as far as how he was executing

1723
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 6: his techniques out there. And I also think that he

1724
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 6: just needs to add some more weapons into the game,

1725
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 6: add some more tools, and then you know, again learn

1726
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 6: from those experiences. But you know, this game is just

1727
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 6: fascinating to watch because you can get a certain read

1728
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 6: on someone. And that's why I always people always make

1729
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 6: fun of me saying at this stage of their career,

1730
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 6: and I use that all the time because things change

1731
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 6: and can change, and sometimes you could put a moniker

1732
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 6: on someone or label someone say they fight like this,

1733
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 6: and the.

1734
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 3: Next fight it could be totally different. It's a great

1735
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 3: point in speaking of things changing. It was not all

1736
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 3: that long ago that Jamal Hill was booked against Khalil

1737
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 3: Roundtree Junior and that fight went away because of an

1738
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 3: issue that Roundtree Junior was dealing with. And then when

1739
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: Roundtree Junior came back, it was in a championship setting

1740
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: against Alex Padata and I was able to give Khalil

1741
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 3: Rowntree Junior a hug. This week, it seems like his

1742
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,839
Speaker 3: nose has actually finally healed good. It happened in October

1743
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 3: and here we are in January and now Jamal Hill

1744
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 3: has to do some healing. But I think that fight

1745
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. You have another big fight

1746
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 3: at two oh five Ken flow Yampohovich Carlos Auberg March

1747
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 3: twenty second. That's an eliminator. And now we have a

1748
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 3: main event for UFC three thirteen on March eighth. It

1749
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: is Alex Padata versus magamet Ankliav. And one thing I

1750
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: said on the post show, even though I believe right

1751
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 3: now magamet Ankliav is the betting favorite, I do believe

1752
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 3: that at closing time, Alex Padata will be the betting favorite.

1753
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 3: Any early thoughts on that, well, I agree with that.

1754
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 6: I think that Pereira will probably end up being the favorite,

1755
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 6: just because you know, when you're looking at that, you're

1756
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 6: looking at on Klive's ability to take people down, and

1757
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 6: that has traditionally been a potential weakness or attack factor

1758
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 6: that people have tried on someone like Alex Peda. Obviously,

1759
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 6: when you get one of the best strikers to ever

1760
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 6: walk inside the octgun, that should be your approach. Take

1761
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 6: the guy down, do not trade uh with someone like Patta.

1762
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 6: But you know, I think that Padeda knows this. He's

1763
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 6: been working on it. I see a lot of great

1764
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 6: grappling training that he's been a part of, and that's

1765
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 6: going to be the key to his success. If he's

1766
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 6: able to stop the takedown, he's going to increase his

1767
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 6: odds greatly. If he catches anybody on the feet, they're

1768
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 6: in trouble. Not to say Unclela is not too shabby

1769
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 6: on the feet either, But I love that that fight

1770
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 6: is happening all.

1771
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 3: Right at heavyweight elevated to pay per view at the card.

1772
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 3: Reshuffling Jaielton al Meda and Sergey Spivak four point fifty

1773
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 3: three of round one. It's a TKO for Jaielton al

1774
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 3: medagainst the bonus as well and another guy who talks

1775
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 3: a lot about hard work. So you'd like to see

1776
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,879
Speaker 3: the results follow suit. What you make of Malia Genio's

1777
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 3: big win over the fellow grappler, Sergei Spivac.

1778
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 6: I think there were some scary moments, but both guys

1779
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 6: had some really good moments, you know, during that fight,

1780
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 6: whether it was Spivoc with that beautiful takedown man that

1781
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 6: was a sick takedown, got that top position, was landing

1782
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 6: some good grounded pound, but then it was all made

1783
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 6: his beautiful half guard sweep, got on top. Then Spivoc

1784
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 6: came back yet again, and then all Meida kind of

1785
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 6: I had to do something to get the fight back

1786
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 6: to the floor, ended up taking it back. So a

1787
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 6: lot happened in round one man, but in the end,

1788
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 6: I think it kind of went down the way I thought,

1789
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 6: and that athleticism advantage for all Medo was the difference.

1790
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 6: Just a little faster, a little stronger, and was able

1791
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 6: to finish when he needed to. But fun fight.

1792
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 7: While it lost it.

1793
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 3: Actually, we'll see what they do with Jailton Almeida. I

1794
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 3: feel like you need to give him Cyril gone. He

1795
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,799
Speaker 3: says he'll go to France. He's called him out three times.

1796
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 3: I think that's the fight, you know. And then he

1797
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 3: was probed again by Joe because maybe that gun fight

1798
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't happen, and he went right to Tom aspinall you know.

1799
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 3: So I think Almeida understands where he's at and where

1800
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 3: he could go. And Uh, it's going to be interested

1801
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 3: to see how far he can take it. Ryan near

1802
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 3: de Ritter ken flow by submission over Kevin Holland. He

1803
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: gets it done at the three p thirty one mark

1804
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 3: of round one. And I said on the broadcast Holland

1805
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: said he would be stunned if he got submitted by

1806
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 3: this man. He gets submitted by this man in round one.

1807
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 3: What Jamaic of the pay per view opener.

1808
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 6: I thought Deurrittor looked fantastic, really kind of took Kevin

1809
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 6: Holland out of the fight, you know, came back with

1810
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 6: that high pressure style, went for that takedown early, controlled

1811
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 6: Kevin Holland really well. I thought Kevin Holland had some

1812
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 6: nice moments as far as staying active on his back,

1813
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 6: he was looking for a triangle. At one point he

1814
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 6: was staying busy with his punches off of his back,

1815
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 6: landing a lot against the Dutchman. But in the end

1816
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 6: RDR was able to get position and finished when he

1817
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 6: needed to, you know, showing I think, cleaner technique than

1818
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 6: when we saw it in his first fight. Looking way

1819
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 6: more comfortable here. You know, sometimes that UFC debut, those

1820
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 6: jitters can be real. But he just looked way more

1821
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 6: comfortable in his element and did so against the guy

1822
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 6: and Kevin Holland, who can be a very tough out.

1823
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 6: So I thought he looked fantastic and he's going to

1824
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 6: be someone to watching that division.

1825
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 3: I think so too, And Derittter is now calling for

1826
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: guys like Robert Whitaker and Kamzat Chimayev. It seemed like

1827
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 3: maybe Chaill sun and suggested he was going to cutt

1828
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 3: bow Nickel, but didn't do that. But either way, when

1829
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 3: you come into the UFC with this type of pedigree

1830
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 3: as a former two division champion with one right, that

1831
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: is going to ring true at some point and might

1832
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 3: help expedite his process. Certainly beating Kevin Holland as quickly

1833
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 3: as he did is going to help things. As far

1834
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 3: as Kevin Holland is concerned, can flow twenty four fights

1835
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 3: in I think a little bit above five hundred, right,

1836
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 3: But he's now lost four of five and needs to

1837
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: make some changes and a lot of people still think

1838
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 3: that he needs to make the wholesale lifestyle commitment and

1839
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 3: move back down to seventy. What do you think Kevin

1840
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 3: Holland does right now with back up against the wall

1841
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: really more than it's ever been for him in the UFC.

1842
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I don't know his habits, you know,

1843
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 6: on the daily of how he approaches his training. I

1844
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 6: would say, you know, some technical advancements in his game

1845
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 6: would would definitely serve him well, and some consistency perhaps

1846
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 6: with his training, and maybe even changing things up if

1847
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 6: a certain thing isn't work, maybe he needs to, you know,

1848
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 6: bring someone in or go somewhere else to get some

1849
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 6: you know, added mentorship or whatever. But he definitely has

1850
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 6: the talent, man, There's no question about that. He's a

1851
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 6: strong athletic fighter who has skills. He's got some good

1852
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 6: skills that you can work with. So I don't think

1853
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 6: it's over for him at all. But it just comes

1854
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 6: down to what kind of commitment he wants to make

1855
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 6: and what kind of changes he wants to make in

1856
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 6: the way that he trains.

1857
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 7: But that was a rough loss for him.

1858
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 3: Man.

1859
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 6: That was one of those where he could have built

1860
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 6: his name back up, and that just set him back

1861
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 6: just a little bit.

1862
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 3: More all right, plenty more coming up on UFC three

1863
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 3: eleven over the next quarter of an hour or so.

1864
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 3: We are absolutely thrilled to be joined by a man

1865
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 3: whose schedule certainly is packed. He is one of the

1866
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 3: greatest mixed martial arts coaches and minds of all time.

1867
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 3: And the hair looks good as always, clean and mean

1868
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 3: and lean and ready to go. Try Star Jim Zone,

1869
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 3: the great Farasa Hobby. It's good to see a brother.

1870
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: How we doing.

1871
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: How are you guys?

1872
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: We're doing well, and we certainly want to get your

1873
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,879
Speaker 3: thoughts on a few things that transpired over the weekend.

1874
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 3: But I have to lead with aimon Za Hobby, who

1875
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 3: as of this taping, is one of the best bantamweight

1876
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 3: mixed athletes in the world. He is right yeah, of

1877
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 3: one of the longest winning streaks in this division. And

1878
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 3: I got to think that you and he were very

1879
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 3: interested observers as you were watching everything play out this weekend,

1880
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 3: just in terms of you know, how you might one

1881
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 3: day try to beat this other worldly champion. Morob Wallace Willy.

1882
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's incredible. Morob is quite fantastic. Actually, it's I

1883
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 10: just rewatched round three. My only I thought Omar one

1884
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 10: round one, round two. I watched the fight once, okay,

1885
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 10: round four or five, I gave it to Morob, and

1886
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 10: then I was thinking of round three.

1887
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 3: I was like, who one round three?

1888
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 10: I just rewatched it, and yeah, I would see I'm

1889
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 10: a Rob won that round as well. It's it's quite

1890
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 10: it's quite impressive, how much work he can do, how

1891
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 10: much pressure he can take. It's absolutely insane.

1892
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1893
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 10: I feel like he's cardio is better than the guys

1894
01:31:58,120 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 10: who've been caught on EPO even. I mean, if the

1895
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 10: guys on drugs don't have cardial like this guy, like,

1896
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 10: it's just it's just it's it's insane, and uh, it's

1897
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 10: just I can't I don't understand it.

1898
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it really is.

1899
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 6: It's unusual, man, especially in twenty twenty five, to see

1900
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 6: someone who's really leading with their conditioning to get it done.

1901
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 7: It's doesn't make sense.

1902
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 6: But you know, for us, when you see a guy

1903
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 6: like that, is that something you would lean on as well.

1904
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 6: Obviously you know there's other things that he can improve on.

1905
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 6: But it's amazing that he's able to put together this

1906
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 6: package and then just kind of super charge it with

1907
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 6: this conditioning and.

1908
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 3: Beat the best guys one after another.

1909
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 10: It's unbelievable because you got to think about it. I mean,

1910
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 10: Omar was winning the striking in run one. He lended

1911
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 10: the harder shots.

1912
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: He's stunned.

1913
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 10: He's stunned Morob so Hudu stunned Morob in run one. Yeah,

1914
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 10: he has a great chin. He gets clipped, he gets hit.

1915
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 10: He got hurt by O'Malley in run five like he

1916
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 10: got hurt like he does get hurt in fighting. However,

1917
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 10: he's smart enough to survive whether the storm stay calm.

1918
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 10: He has a very calm demeanor, Like you can see

1919
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 10: him laughing and smiling, and he's enjoying himself after he

1920
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 10: gets hurt. He seems to be having fun in there

1921
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 10: because I think he knows that he has unreal he

1922
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 10: has unquestionable cardio. It's it's it's it's it's such a

1923
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 10: confidence booster, I would imagine, because Umar is in phenomenal shape.

1924
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 10: I mean he's a wrecking machine for five five rounds.

1925
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 10: I have no question in his endurance. Even he wavered.

1926
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 10: It's it's just incredible. I've never seen anybody with such

1927
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 10: cardio ever. It's just it's never.

1928
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Been I don't think we've ever seen anything like it.

1929
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 3: And I think what's most impressive.

1930
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 6: We were talking about just how difficult this division in

1931
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 6: and I know you're paying close attention with aiming in it,

1932
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 6: but you look at all the guys in this division.

1933
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 3: Is this the toughest division in the UFC right now?

1934
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 7: From a skill perspective, God, look.

1935
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 10: At look at who Murrob beats his last five fights.

1936
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 10: I mean, it's the hardest division there is. I mean,

1937
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 10: it's just it's it's an insane Even his fight with Aldo,

1938
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 10: he didn't get any takedowns on Aldo, he just kept

1939
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 10: relentless the attacking him, striking wrestling, striking wrestling like he

1940
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 10: needed so much pres because you know all those are

1941
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 10: phenomenally difficult to take down.

1942
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 5: Obviously.

1943
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's incredible how much work this man can do.

1944
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 3: It's as funishing.

1945
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 10: I can't even think I mean Kabib, in my opinion,

1946
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 10: Kabib Saint Pierre, they had an incredible cardio. But this

1947
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 10: is just something strange, different and just the bizarre. Like

1948
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 10: he gets hurting around. You know hard is when you

1949
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 10: get right, you're gonna be in a panic. You're gonna

1950
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 10: work really hard to survive. Doesn't matter he gets hurting

1951
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 10: around one round five, He's still like levels and shoulders

1952
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 10: above in terms of energy.

1953
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 3: It is strange. The great Faroca hobby joining us live

1954
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 3: here on the anakmp Florian podcast. Some of it, I

1955
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 3: would submit to you must be genetic. But Ray Longer

1956
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 3: was on earlier and he thinks to your point, a

1957
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 3: lot of it is just the ability to smile and

1958
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 3: be relaxed as if he's at a concert, so his

1959
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 3: his line stays sort of flat, if you would. But

1960
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 3: it really is fascinating because you happen to have a

1961
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 3: younger brother who you have worked hard to help build

1962
01:34:58,240 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 3: into one of the best fighters in the world, who

1963
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 3: possesses one of the longest winning streaks alongside Mario Bautista

1964
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 3: in this division. So congratulations on that. I was not

1965
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 3: there for the last win, but you know, I know

1966
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 3: a guy like you doesn't sort of get satisfied easily.

1967
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 3: But you know, not everybody can fight for the championship,

1968
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 3: and we do hope that for aim And but what

1969
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 3: is your relative level of satisfaction with what he has

1970
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 3: done to build himself into this type of MMA fighter.

1971
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 3: I'm really happy, you know.

1972
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 10: I think he's put in a lot of work, tremendous

1973
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 10: amount of work. And the last few years also we

1974
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 10: had the COVID issue. Canada that was really hit hard

1975
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 10: by COVID. They shut down the country for two years.

1976
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 10: You know, we had before that, we had a lot

1977
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 10: more pros, we had a lot more resources, so.

1978
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 3: We have to rebuild.

1979
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 10: They really did everything they could to stop us from training.

1980
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 10: It was absolutely absurd. For two years. It was incredibly

1981
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 10: credibly difficult. We lost a lot of time there, and

1982
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 10: you know, we made the best that we could. We

1983
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 10: did the best we could. We're rebuilding now, we're we're

1984
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 10: the gym is full. We got a lot of guys

1985
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 10: fighting and we're rebuilding. He's broken into the top fifteen,

1986
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 10: so you know, big fights coming up.

1987
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure had a lot of big fights coming up

1988
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 3: in the bandamweight division. Obviously to Henry Shudo, and song

1989
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 3: you Don, Domina Cruz and your guy Rob Font. I

1990
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 3: looked forward to seeing you in Seattle. So you know,

1991
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with Domina Cruz shortly after that

1992
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 3: fight was booked, and I think we were talking about

1993
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 3: who might be the chief corner for Rob Font and

1994
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 3: I said, Barasa. Hobby's like, oh my gosh, he knows

1995
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 3: me so well. So Don very well. Without revealing too much,

1996
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 3: what is your relative level of excitement for the challenge

1997
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 3: against the former Bandawid champion in a few weeks.

1998
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a big fan of Cruise.

1999
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 10: I think he's the greatest bantam weight ever because I mean,

2000
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 10: if you look at his stretch from WEC to UFC

2001
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 10: in his era, he was so incredibly dominant. I know today,

2002
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 10: I know last weekend we had probably the greatest like

2003
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 10: bantam weight fight ever. I understand that, But at the

2004
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 10: time we didn't have that kind of that kind of Now,

2005
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 10: of course, training people are getting more efficient in training,

2006
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 10: people are getting smarter, We're figuring out better ways to train.

2007
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 10: But at that time, Cruise was so high up in

2008
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 10: the buve of and you know, he had the alpha

2009
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 10: males always nipping at his heels and he was able

2010
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 10: to dominate that entire team full of studs like it.

2011
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 10: It was an incredible era as well, and he was

2012
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 10: incredibly dominant, and he did it.

2013
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:12,839
Speaker 2: In a way that nobody understood.

2014
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 10: His footwork, His movement was very spectacular, very special, very unique.

2015
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 10: He had a method to his madness that you know,

2016
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 10: he has his own format that it's very very difficult

2017
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 10: to to figure out. He has an algorithm. He fights

2018
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 10: with it. That's that's still today, still working. I mean,

2019
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 10: he's a very very unique fighter. So he's very hard

2020
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 10: to get ready for it because how many people can

2021
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 10: do how many people can mimic for you what he

2022
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 10: does and a fight.

2023
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 6: So the alpha males, the alpha males nipping at their

2024
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 6: heels for us, we had to make fun of the

2025
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 6: fact that they're so short.

2026
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 7: Huh, that's what you had to do.

2027
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 3: That that's not whatever, that's not what I've that's perfect.

2028
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 3: And how listenable. How listenable is this guy's voice, by

2029
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: the way, on that sure microphone. The hobby is with

2030
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 3: us here on the aic Florm podcast. So I know

2031
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 3: you're deflective when it comes to taking credit, right, But

2032
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 3: when I was asked by somebody in the media to

2033
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 3: name a bandamwaight going into twenty twenty four, to keep

2034
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 3: an eye on, I said Kyler Phillips. And then people

2035
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 3: say one training camp with Farosa hobby and Rob Font

2036
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 3: turns in this unbelievable performance. So I know you're not

2037
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 3: gonna take any credit, and I know maybe you gotta

2038
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 3: fight coming off, so you'll keep things close to the desk.

2039
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 3: But what what do you feel like you were able

2040
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 3: to do that that allowed our new England guy Rob

2041
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 3: Font to you I'll turn in the fuck best performance

2042
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 3: of his life. I'll tell you something.

2043
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 10: He worked really hard in the gym, Like I'm telling you, Uh,

2044
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 10: it's really hot in the gym. He was there through

2045
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 10: the same he was there months before, he was there

2046
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 10: about four months before his fight, working incredibly hard, coming

2047
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 10: in twice a day. There's nothing asked him to do that.

2048
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 10: He told me, no, that's too much. He never said

2049
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 10: that to me. He never told me, no, that's too much.

2050
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 10: I think we're over doing. He never said that to me.

2051
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 10: And I'm telling you I almost killed him in the gym.

2052
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 10: I almost killed the man. It was a very difficult summer,

2053
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 10: very difficult, hot summer that we trained every single day,

2054
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 10: and uh, he put in the work and I feel like,

2055
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 10: you know, he got to work with a bunch of

2056
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 10: you guys, they got to push him in different ways.

2057
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 10: We kind of added a few new wrinkles to his game.

2058
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 10: But you know, he's an original bat and weight great.

2059
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's a.

2060
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 10: Brilliant fighter long before I ever worked with me. And

2061
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 10: he's just such a hard work and he's so tough.

2062
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 10: I just think we got him a few new looks,

2063
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 10: a few new tools to play with, and I think

2064
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 10: it was the right fit.

2065
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 3: So Arnold Allen is another guy that you've worked with

2066
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 3: extensively and great results, great fighter, best merchandise in the business.

2067
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 3: The Almighty Merchandise team is very strong, right. But sometimes

2068
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 3: he's been held out for myriad reasons. Maybe they want

2069
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 3: to showcase him in England. I know he fought in

2070
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 3: Canada recently. But when you have a division that is

2071
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,719
Speaker 3: chiefed by a star like Ilia Topodius, sometimes it's harder

2072
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 3: than if say Movsar i Ivloyev were the champion, right,

2073
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 3: this guy Movsar maybe looking to turn around every three months.

2074
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I have a question as

2075
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 3: much as I just want to talk about Arnie and

2076
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 3: just submit to you that I think he's on that

2077
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 3: shortlist of the best fighters in the UFC who have

2078
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,480
Speaker 3: not yet fought for the World championship.

2079
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a very close and controversial fight with Mossar.

2080
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 3: I think I don't know. I feel like.

2081
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 10: I think by the new rules, the rules the way

2082
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 10: it's supposed to judge, Like if you do takedowns now

2083
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 10: you're supposed to do something with it. You can't just

2084
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 10: kind of like hold and hold. And I understand, there's

2085
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 10: only fifteen minutes. We only got fifteen minutes to fight.

2086
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 10: And I like takedowns. I think takedowns are great, but

2087
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 10: I understand also like the new rules, you know, if

2088
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 10: you're taking a guy down, it's not because you want

2089
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 10: to take him down the last twenty seconds and steal around.

2090
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 10: Like I think we give sometimes way too much to

2091
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 10: takedowns and we have to like assume, like who.

2092
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 3: Would have won this fight if there was no time limit.

2093
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 10: I think that we got to kind of work it

2094
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 10: like that because I think there's a lot of defensive

2095
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 10: takedowns sometimes that win the fight. The guy's losing standing

2096
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 10: up or he's not feeling comfort that he doesn't want

2097
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 10: a trade standing, and they kind of like do takedowns

2098
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 10: just to hold and drain the clock and get to

2099
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 10: a semi dominant position that's kind of a holding. I

2100
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 10: just feel like the sport needs to be more dynamic,

2101
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 10: you know, and especially if you guys want to be

2102
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 10: uh fan favorites, loved by the fans and all that,

2103
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 10: they got to push to that next level where they're

2104
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 10: they're trying to finish, they're trying to improve, they're trying

2105
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 10: to do something dynamics, something to finish, something to to

2106
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 10: get the fight going, you know. I just feel like

2107
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 10: most are so good at stifling, yeah, and controlling guys

2108
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 10: in certain positions where he can kind of hold that

2109
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 10: as long as as long as you need, you know,

2110
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 10: there's three minutes on the clock or four minutes, that

2111
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 10: doesn't matter whole disposition.

2112
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: For the rest of the time.

2113
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting. We just saw Grant Dawson, Kenny,

2114
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 3: I'll let you get in here, but Grant Dawson, same guy. Right,

2115
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 3: Like Hanatamoikana said, I don't know how anybody ever gets up.

2116
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, especially in today's MMMA. You can't just get

2117
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 6: the takedown and expect to win, you know. But yeah,

2118
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 6: so I agree there for us Islamaha shaf just fought,

2119
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 6: you know, on Saturday night, and I know you have

2120
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 6: some familiarity with him and there and his team. You've

2121
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 6: seen them train, You've seen what they do. How would

2122
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Speaker 6: you compare him to maybe someone like Illiot Tuporia or

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Speaker 6: is there someone else on the list that you think

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Speaker 6: is the best pound for pound fighter on the planet

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Speaker 6: right now?

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Speaker 10: I mean Ilia is up there for sure, But Makachev,

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Speaker 10: my books, is the best pound for pound fighter active today.

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Speaker 10: He's the second greatest light weight ever, I think, after Kabib,

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Speaker 10: which I think makes abdulma Nap the greatest trainer of

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Speaker 10: all time. Personally, I would say, and I mean his

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Speaker 10: his performance on last Saturday was incredible. I mean, he

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Speaker 10: tapped out on a very experienced black belt. He put

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Speaker 10: him down on the ground with ease, and as soon

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Speaker 10: as make Cono tried to get to his knees, it

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Speaker 10: was a big mistake. Makachev knows that, hey, you let

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Speaker 10: me touch your neck, it's the end of the match,

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Speaker 10: you know.

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Speaker 2: I think he could do that to anybody in the division.

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Speaker 3: So he's finishing guys.

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Speaker 10: He's finishing guys, and he's finishing them quickly, and they're

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Speaker 10: panic tapping. They're not just tapping, their panic tapping. And

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Speaker 10: these are experienced black belt olivera also Paddict tap like

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Speaker 10: he tapped with an urgency. I mean, it's an arm choke.

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Speaker 10: Why are you tapping so rapidly. I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 2: Because his neck is breaking. Is the guy's neck is

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Speaker 2: about to pop.

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Speaker 10: So it's a it's a very scary thing to see

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Speaker 10: a guy across the octagon who's making these experienced black

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Speaker 10: belts tap like that, you know, because I've topped to

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Speaker 10: arm trokes too. But you know, it's one of these Okay,

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Speaker 10: you got me, I'm gonna pat. But when you see

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Speaker 10: a guy tapping like this frantically his neck is.

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Speaker 2: Breaking, that's how hard the squeezes, that's how hard the

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Speaker 2: pressure is.

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Speaker 10: You don't get experienced black belts to top like that easily,

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Speaker 10: you know. And he's doing it. He's doing it, and

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Speaker 10: I think he could do that to literally everybody in

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Speaker 10: the division, including if the poorio goes up, I think

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Speaker 10: he takes the poio.

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Speaker 3: Down and he puts the same kind of choke on

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Speaker 3: it for.

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Speaker 6: Us, I wanted to follow up on that, you know,

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Speaker 6: because you've seen these guys train. What is it about

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Speaker 6: their team that makes them different?

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Speaker 3: Or is it?

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Speaker 6: Is it just them, you know, with their mentality and

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01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 6: they're hard training, But are they or are they doing

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Speaker 6: something specifically in their training that's separating them from from

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Speaker 6: other people.

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Speaker 10: I've been in the practice room with Cabebe. I spent

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Speaker 10: a week with them, and I'm me tell you something.

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Speaker 10: Cabeb is he's a he's a very very how do

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Speaker 10: I say it, He's he's a he pushes the guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he really pushes them. He is.

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Speaker 10: He's a practice He has a practice room full of studs,

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Speaker 10: and that's not impressed to him.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't care like he thinks. That's like I saw him.

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Speaker 2: Let's I'll tell you.

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Speaker 10: In the practice room, he was coaching, coaching, coaching, and

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Speaker 10: he felt that they weren't push I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 10: who it was, but there was one guy getting ready

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Speaker 10: for a big fight and they weren't pushing him enough.

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Speaker 3: So he looked at me. He's like me.

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Speaker 10: He put on the MMIC gloves and he went in

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Speaker 10: there and he crushed the guy. And that was the

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Speaker 10: guy getting ready for a big fight, and I was like,

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Speaker 10: my god, man, he didn't even warm up. He just

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Speaker 10: put on the mm gugs. He went in there and

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Speaker 10: crushing because they weren't pressuring him enough. He's he has

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Speaker 10: a high level of work where he wants them to work.

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Speaker 10: The amount of work that they do is really great,

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Speaker 10: is high, It's super high. I mean after the practice

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Speaker 10: he was kind of dogging on them because they weren't

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Speaker 10: working hard enough. And then he's like, coach, you have anything,

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Speaker 10: sam My, guys, I think you did great. I think

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Speaker 10: you see I see a lot of world champions here.

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Speaker 10: I wanted to bring them back up. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 10: it was an incredible practice. These guys work really really hard.

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Speaker 10: They're super super dedicated. Cabibe is very demanding. He knows

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Speaker 10: what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: He comes from a pedigree of Sambo that's like.

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Speaker 10: They know how far and how long and how much

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01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 10: to push you and how much they can get out

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Speaker 10: of you. I think it's just generations of experience and

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01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 10: there was a super great trainer. Can you grew up

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Speaker 10: under this kind of great legacy and training experience and

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Speaker 10: then he's just passing it on. It's just another level

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Speaker 10: of he's pushing them to another level.

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Speaker 3: Well, you are right there alongside the late great abdulmen

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Speaker 3: op Nirmago Medov as one of the all time great

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Speaker 3: MMA coaches. And if people are listening for the first

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Speaker 3: time or watching for the first time and they don't

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Speaker 3: know some of the connective tissue, Kenny and I certainly

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Speaker 3: have fond memories of being up there in Montreal Trystar.

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Speaker 3: Kenny of course did his final training camp with you

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Speaker 3: for his last fight against Jose Aldo and real quickly

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Speaker 3: on the way out if I could far us, Yeah,

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01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 3: we want Faross either in the center with his handsome

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Speaker 3: face body or on that big shot as much as possible.

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Speaker 3: But you mentioned the word rebuilding off the top and

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Speaker 3: some of the challenges with the global pandemic and some

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Speaker 3: of the brutalness you had to deal with because of leadership.

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Speaker 3: So Montreal might be back on the UFC calendar soon.

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Speaker 3: There are some rumblings you've got aim in. I'd imagine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not much of a goal setter, but

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Speaker 3: i'd imagine when you look at the next three to

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01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 3: five years, there's some other Canadian talent that you're excited

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Speaker 3: to see potentially get into some big spots as well.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we have Mandel Nalo. Actually I think he's up

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Speaker 10: and coming. He's a fifty five or he just won

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Speaker 10: the title here in Quebec. But he's a really incredible

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01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,719
Speaker 10: talent that I think should break into the UFC very shortly.

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Speaker 2: He's also a phenomenal, phenomenal.

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Speaker 10: Athlete, something that I think will be very very impressive

2235
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Speaker 10: to see in the UFC.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's up there.

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Speaker 3: And the last thing I'll say, Major League Baseball made

2238
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 3: the bases bigger. They've got two lengths to change the game, right,

2239
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 3: pitch count right, so you got to throw the pitch sooner.

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Speaker 3: I just bring it up because I respect you to

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01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 3: such an extent that when you talk about the sport

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01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 3: being more dynamic, I just feel like we can change

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01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts right, whether it's a ten minute first

2244
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 3: round to chew us and spit people out, whatever it is, like,

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01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 3: it is within the realm of possibility that we can

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01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 3: affect change in this sport that we all love. Yeah,

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01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 3: I think the.

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Speaker 10: Down to the point at rule now where you can

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01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 10: need the guy if he's not playing, you know, I

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01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,080
Speaker 10: think there's got to be more more also advantage for

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01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 10: the guy who's on the bottom. Like, I think you

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01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 10: should be able to upkick if the guy's knees down.

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01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,640
Speaker 10: Why can't you upkick? Why can't you only upkick when

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01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 10: he's standing up? Why can't I do it when he's done?

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Speaker 10: It will help me get up out of the bottom

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Speaker 10: and create more dynamic action.

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Speaker 2: I think there's there's room for making the rules better.

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Speaker 10: The ten minute round in Pride that made fights so special, Yeah,

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01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:17,720
Speaker 10: because you had.

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Speaker 3: A lot more time to see the grappling.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 10: In MMA, you take a guy down this thirty seconds left, well,

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01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 10: you know what, I could just hold you? Yeah, well

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01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 10: there was five minutes and thirty seconds left. Well, and

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01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 10: then maybe I could finish the submission, you know. So

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Speaker 10: I think there is definitely better ways to do the rule.

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Speaker 10: I personally, if I could throw my idea in there,

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01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 10: it should be one fifteen minute round, lock the gate,

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Speaker 10: one round for Why are we interrupting the fight? Why

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01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 10: are you getting them up off the ground? Why are

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01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 10: we stopping to take a break.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? I never seen I don't understand. Why

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Speaker 3: are they taking a break in between the fightsing how

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Speaker 3: how Ego lists Farasa hobby is right now the corner

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01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,759
Speaker 3: man that wants to see his face on TV otherwise

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01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 3: three minute round so you're a fucking man. You can

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Speaker 3: see him on YouTube. The track toutch Tube channels outstanding

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01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 3: on Instagram for Ross underscores a hobby. Much love, man,

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01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be out there just to watch as a

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01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 3: fan in Seattle because Dom's one of my bef friends.

2281
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 3: So one out there to support the other side. But

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01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 3: I'll see you take caress a hobby with us, and

2283
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 3: of course much love for Rob font I say that's

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01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 3: somewhat tongue in cheek to support the other side, but yes,

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01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 3: very excited for the first time in fifteen years to

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01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 3: go out to a UFC fight night and watch as

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01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 3: a fan. I'm gonna go there and support Dom. I

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01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 3: I've got a fucking sweet with like a Peloton bike

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01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 3: in it just in case the kidneys to cut some weight,

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01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 3: so we're ready to go. Just an incredible, incredible Mma

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Speaker 3: minds the man and nice to see him give some

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Speaker 3: shine to that dominant Cruz era, right, because I sometimes

2293
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 3: get so caught up in the modern era and I think,

2294
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,679
Speaker 3: you know, how I feel about the thirty fiver ers.

2295
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 3: But it's nice to hear Faross sort of acknowledge the

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01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 3: dominic cruz era in the bandamweight division. All right, we

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Speaker 3: got to get on out of here. Thank you to

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Speaker 3: Ray Longo, Thanks to for ross a Hobby. Thanks to

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Speaker 3: everybody for tuning in. Don't forget remember the show with

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Speaker 3: Balah Muhammad and Jason Anik over on our Anak and

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Speaker 3: Florian podcast YouTube channel coming up on Thursday. John an

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Speaker 3: dot com, Kenny Florian dot com Live for all of

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Speaker 3: your podcasts and one more sleep merchandise needs. Thanks to

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Speaker 3: our producer Cody Merrow. We are all back in your

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Speaker 3: lives next Monday, and uh the fights keep on coming thereafter,

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Speaker 3: so Pete, we'll be back and it'll be all hands

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Speaker 3: on deck. Thanks to everybody at DraftKings. Thanks for everybody

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Speaker 3: watching live on YouTube. We'll talk to you next Monday.

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