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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 2: You and Connor went back and forth on social media,

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Speaker 2: but you said it's over for Connor. I mean the money,

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Speaker 2: the money that he made from Floyd, the money that

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Speaker 2: he's made off his alcohol, the money that he that

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Speaker 2: he's making now to go back into I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: worth three hundred million dollars to go in there, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know what, I want to get kicked

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Speaker 2: in my face, hitting my face, elbowed in my face.

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Speaker 3: Need Yeah, there's no need there. Yeah, he doesn't need that.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need this anymore. Marvin Hackler said, it's hard

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Speaker 3: to get up in the morning when you're sleeping on

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Speaker 3: souven sheets right way back in the Yes, yes, there

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Speaker 3: are a few sayings in the world that are untrue.

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Speaker 3: That was like that, you know that one where it's like,

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Speaker 3: to be the champion, you got to defend the belt.

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Speaker 3: That's bullshit. Rick Clair started.

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Speaker 1: To beat the man you gotta beat.

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Speaker 2: Rick Clair started that, man, I'll beat the man that

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Speaker 2: beat the man and be just as happy.

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Speaker 3: Give me one belt. The moment they put that belt

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Speaker 3: on you, you're the champion. But fighters have actually believed

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Speaker 3: that Connor it's the and he's one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: superstars in the world. Right he can't walk into any

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Speaker 3: room with everybody knowing who he is, so the access

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Speaker 3: he has, how's he gonna look past all of that

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Speaker 3: to going to a training camp to fight, especially if

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Speaker 3: he wants to do it right.

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Speaker 2: Francis and Kano he was in the UFC he left, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it seems to be. There's some speculation that he might

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Speaker 2: be wanting to come back. There was this talk about

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Speaker 2: Francis fighting John. Yep, would you like to see that fight?

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Speaker 3: I would have. I would have not now, I would

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Speaker 3: now still back then, I wanted to because Francis in

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Speaker 3: his last fight against Cyril uh his wrestling looked better.

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Speaker 3: But I do believe that if he fought John, that's

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Speaker 3: some more serviceable will fight for John because John can wrestle, Yes,

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Speaker 3: and he probably would just take Francis down. No, And dude,

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Speaker 3: do you remember when he was elbow people in the

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Speaker 3: back in the day like he just I think Francis

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Speaker 3: would have to knock him out. But Francis could knock

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Speaker 3: people out.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen anybody hit harder than France. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: he got power, He's got the most power seen in

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Speaker 3: my life. He'd be knocking dudes'll he hit Alice the

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Speaker 3: Overeim in his head, the back of his head touched

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Speaker 3: between his shoulders. He hit him with theever cut. The

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Speaker 3: back of his head touched between his shoulders as he

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Speaker 3: was falling down. I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 2: But Francis boxed because okay, he uh Tyson Fury and

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Speaker 2: it gave him some confidence and then he ended up

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Speaker 2: fighting Anthony Joshua got knocked out, but he made some money.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yep, he's the only one that's actually done that.

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Speaker 3: And it worked out because he was a heavyweight champ

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Speaker 3: and Shannon he looks like the heavyweight champ when he

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Speaker 3: became the champ, and I was like, okay, look at him. Now,

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Speaker 3: you look like you're looking at the baddest man on

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Speaker 3: the planet. Yes, you're looking like this dude. France and

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Speaker 3: Gano looks like he's walking to any place, and you go, well,

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Speaker 3: that's a dude. I'm not trying to and he had

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Speaker 3: he had it so when he moved over it worked.

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Speaker 3: He was that way champ. Yeah, but should he dropped

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Speaker 3: Tyson Fury, Remember he knocked it out. I thought it

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Speaker 3: was over. Yeah, man, you should. I exploded out of

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Speaker 3: my chair. But then Anthony Joshua beat him back, and

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Speaker 3: you saw when Joshua dropped him the difference in a

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Speaker 3: boxer and a guy that because Francis was like this,

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Speaker 3: he needed to grab him. He got flatline.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is is that boxers understand how to faint.

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Speaker 3: And when he gave him that faint, When he gave

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Speaker 2: Went, I was like, oh my god, and boxer a

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Speaker 2: boxer throwing a punch in the MMA. Look, I understand that,

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Speaker 2: you know, they both hit hard, but boxers is just

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Speaker 2: something about that punch and where it's coming from.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Shannon.

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Speaker 3: I went trained one time in Oakland when I first

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Speaker 3: started boxing gym. They hit you with a jab and

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Speaker 3: it's like, what the hell was that? Because they know

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Speaker 3: It's not jam jamb touched trying to take you out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm just mad in there getting my ass, but I

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Speaker 3: want I could beat everybody up in there. I'll start

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Speaker 3: wrestling every one of you fools pistol because the dudes

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Speaker 3: just putting it on you. They just putting it on

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Speaker 3: you because there's nothing you can do.

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Speaker 1: Why do you fight brock Lesler.

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Speaker 3: The w W got him, the WW took him back.

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Speaker 3: It was that was my golden goose man. We had

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Speaker 3: that moment in the ring. I pushed him, he pushed me.

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Speaker 3: WW paid him back. They were paying Brock like six

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Speaker 3: seven million a year, maybe ten. You're telling me, Brock,

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Speaker 3: you can go fight DC and lose. Are you can lose?

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Speaker 3: I'm beating brock Lesler, man, I was beating Brock. Don't matter, Shay,

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Speaker 3: I was beating brock Lesler. It was one of the

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Speaker 3: safest fights I could have had. I'm telling you that's

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Speaker 3: the truth. It's just the truth. I like Brock duds

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Speaker 3: a great guy. But I watched what Kane did to her.

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Speaker 3: I watched how he would react to getting punched, and

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Speaker 3: I was gonna punch it. He would have to take

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Speaker 3: me down to win the fight, and I can wrestle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not arest. I mean he was arest, but.

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Speaker 3: If he shoots on me, I'm I'm gonna make it

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Speaker 3: so hard for him to get that take down. There

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Speaker 3: by the time he gets it, he's exhausted. Now I'm

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Speaker 3: up to my feet and then you're done. That's why

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Speaker 3: with Cane, he took Kinge down. Caine got up started

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Speaker 3: needing him in his face. I saw Brock recently. He

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Speaker 3: still has that scar on his eye from when CA

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Speaker 3: need him in the face. Still got that big scar

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Speaker 3: on his eye.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Crazy scholarship.

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Speaker 3: I got like offers back then, but I had bad

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Speaker 3: grades and I just was not going to college to

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Speaker 3: play football. It was hard to It was hard for

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Speaker 3: me in the school that I was in to first off,

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Speaker 3: there's way too much pressure on football down there in Louisiana. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we weren't very good, but I mean I was

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Speaker 3: the All State m VP defensively. I was pretty much

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Speaker 3: missed to everything in football because I was a good

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Speaker 3: little linebacker. But I was small, and they were talking

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Speaker 3: was like, I'm supposed to chase how much chase Randy Moss?

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Speaker 3: I mean he do so Like I'm not smart. I

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Speaker 3: like a linebacker, yes, but I was thinking, But I

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Speaker 3: because he was graduating the same year. I was like,

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Speaker 3: there's no way, No, I'm good. Yeah. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go wrestling, and I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 3: I got I got an offer to go play football.

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Speaker 2: You in Hersha Walker's Colonel corner. Yes, m yes, could

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Speaker 2: Herschel made a career out of that.

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Speaker 1: Oh he did what he was supposed to do. Have

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Speaker 1: work and move it along, Shannon.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, man, is he was? He really

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Speaker 3: the great? He was the great. He's one of the

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Speaker 3: greatest athletes, wasn't. Yeah he was, Yeah, Shannon, this man

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Speaker 3: was so strong. But I don't think I've ever seen

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Speaker 3: anybody like. He was very stiff, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: He had no pleaxibility or he wasn't even in football. Bro.

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Speaker 3: He was so stiff. But when he hits you, oh

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Speaker 3: and this shit, he would like move his feet. He

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Speaker 3: He ain't never left the ground, bro. Herschel would be

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Speaker 3: walking towards you like this. So when when this man

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Speaker 3: sometimes Herschel shocking dudes. Hey, And then we're in the back.

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Speaker 3: I swear to God, it was the most Herschel Walker

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Speaker 3: is a different individual. Herschel Walker has had some stuff

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Speaker 3: in his life where it's like his anger. But if

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Speaker 3: you meet him and you you men, yeah, yeah, he

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Speaker 3: is the nicest person. We are all broke. Back in

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Speaker 3: the day, Herschel was staying at the Intercontinental. Are was

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Speaker 3: the name of that hotel downtown San Jose, No, but

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Speaker 3: a nice one. But Herschel owned a chicken company.

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Speaker 1: You know Hershel that ya ya ya ya yah yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: Of the biggest ones in the country does. But because

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Speaker 3: Herschel got free rooms at this beautiful hotel downtown San Jose.

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Speaker 3: He would feed us all, but he wouldn't eat. He

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Speaker 3: would eat one time a day, Bro, he would he

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Speaker 3: this is the nicest guy ever, multi millionaire, rich, nice

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Speaker 3: I said, this is this This dude is dark. There

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Speaker 3: is the darks out of a gun. Bro. He started

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Speaker 3: talking to himself talking about I'm killing this. They don't

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Speaker 3: do ye talking about killing this dude. Wow, he to

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Speaker 3: get himself there he went there. I was like, yo,

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Speaker 3: I've heard people like talk to himself to hype himself up.

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Speaker 3: Herschel was on a whole nother level. It was the

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Speaker 3: most intense thing I've ever seen in my life. And

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Speaker 3: he went out there and he won.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: He was over forty. Yeah, he was over forty, retired

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Speaker 3: his thing in one of you, I want to fight

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Speaker 3: in Strikeforce, which at the time was the second biggest

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Speaker 3: to that place, Shannon, Yeah, you'd be like, yo, this

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Speaker 3: dude is crazy. I look back at the other dudes.

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Speaker 3: I was like, are y'all seeing this? Everybody acting normal?

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Speaker 3: Herschel's all about killing moff Here's all I killing people.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever think about doing WWE?

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Speaker 3: So? I thought about it right after I was wrestling.

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Speaker 3: But then it's hard. People talk about that stuff being fake.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, it's scripted, yeah, but it ain't fake. It hurts.

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Speaker 3: You got to throw your arms back. So every time

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Speaker 3: it's like it's like slapping against the rig or when

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Speaker 3: it's it's hard man. And that's why you see him

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Speaker 3: all break down like that. Yeah, like they're all like

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Speaker 3: they're all like messed up, like their their their knees

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Speaker 3: don't work. They're like football players and us y'all got

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Speaker 3: it hard. Football is hard man. The the wear and

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Speaker 3: tear on the body is it's crazy, and so is

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Speaker 3: MMA in wrestling. I'm one of the lucky ones. I

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Speaker 3: feel like I got out pretty clean, right. Derek Lewis, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: black beast bro. He coming there to do one thing

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Speaker 3: you already know. He ain't tried to take you down.

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Speaker 2: He ain't tried to kick you, he ain't try to

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Speaker 2: knee you.

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Speaker 3: Trying to knock you out. He tried to knock you

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Speaker 3: out the knockout kick.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: He got more knockouts than anybody in the history of

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Speaker 3: You'll see he hits hard. I thought him. He hits hard.

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Speaker 1: Did did you see her? The ground?

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Speaker 3: You see his wife? She was in there so embarrassed

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Speaker 3: Derek about some crazy stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he I go, what do you who?

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Speaker 3: You want to fight next?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: What do you want next? He looks over at his wife.

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Speaker 1: But you were the first man to submit him.

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Speaker 3: I did. Yeah, he couldn't wrestle. It was why I

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Speaker 3: Yeah I knew. I knew he couldn't wrestle, So I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta get I mean, you got to

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Speaker 3: Dan Henderson, that little dude, he was like he was

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Speaker 3: Yeah nasty Josh Burnette, that's not dirty. It's like I'm

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Speaker 3: I saw, Hey, I thought Josh Bournett. I was trying

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Speaker 3: wide open here, first fight I ever had a black guy.

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Speaker 3: He need me an eye, cutting my head open. When

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was bad. I walked to my mama house

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Speaker 1: I'm a young kid.

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Speaker 3: I can't cry. So I saw my mama. I fall

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Speaker 3: my eye was open. Everything was They put stitches for

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Speaker 1: I fell down.

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Speaker 3: I'm in her lap like a seven year old kid. Again,

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Speaker 3: Please make me feel better. That's how nasty he was

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Speaker 3: in there, dude. He was elbowing me, he was grabbing me,

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Speaker 3: he was doing everything he could to just like inflict

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Speaker 3: guys just no matter where you are, they're just trying

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Speaker 3: if you aren't. You look at Elliott Taporia. He's a monster.

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Speaker 3: He's a monster. He's one of the best fighters of

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Speaker 2: What does it feel like to knock someone out? What

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Speaker 2: does it feel like to get knocked out? Because you

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Speaker 2: and I know exactly what you're saying, because I've been

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Speaker 1: I was like, we call him futs. I said, fuotz.

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Speaker 1: How we get to leave? I don't want to laugh, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, how do we come with?

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Speaker 2: I just remember like we were losing before this happened,

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Speaker 1: He said, food we go to the super Bowl. I

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Speaker 2: But it's a funny feeling to get knocked out because

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Speaker 3: Hey, my coach told me that's just bad. I'm laughing

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Speaker 2: No, No, that was I was like, no, you probably

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Speaker 2: ask him again. I started out like I started jumping

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Speaker 3: We got the ball this dude, So I get knocked out, right,

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Speaker 3: That was John kicked me and they hit him with

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Speaker 3: the follow up shots. Right, the only time I knocked out.

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Speaker 3: I'm crying.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I go to my corner. I asked my coach. I said,

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Speaker 3: Rogan interviews me as we're walking out of the octagon.

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Speaker 3: I looked at him and I go, hey, what happened?

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Speaker 3: He tells me, I break down crying. He told me

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Speaker 3: I did that seven times. He had to keep explaining

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Speaker 3: that's bad, he said. He told me seven times. And

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Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, yeah, he lost. I was like, God,

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Speaker 3: damn it, I swear to God. I woke up and

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Speaker 2: Like lost, did did you not? Because obviously, so how

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Speaker 3: It was it was it was beautiful. It was beautiful, man,

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Speaker 3: it was beautiful. He kept body kicking me. That's what

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Speaker 3: I feel great. My cardial was great. Third round, but

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Speaker 3: But when I lean, he was not going low. He

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Speaker 3: I'm like doing this thing running away from him. Yo,

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Speaker 3: he kicks my leg to spin me. Yes, I remember,

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Speaker 3: so he kicks. Yeah, So I suspend. It's like that,

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Speaker 1: Then you don't know where you're at.

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Speaker 3: When I did that, I fell and that was it.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't not My body was gone. But like if

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Speaker 3: I spin, and when I spin, I'm like seeing all

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Speaker 3: It was like a kid trying to hit a pinata.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy, man. Then I fall on my stomach.

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Speaker 3: Of all times in my world to fall on my stomach,

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Speaker 3: like fall on your back to where you could see

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Speaker 2: So so you watch it. So you watched when you

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Speaker 3: Now for a long time, I didn't watch fight. I uh,

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Speaker 3: but it's on highlights and stuff. You have seen no

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Speaker 3: shield us from the if you lost. If you lost,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna see yourself getting beat at some point. That's

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Speaker 3: why it was him a Steep Ay faught. It was

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Speaker 3: I was like, damn, did I ever win a fight?

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Speaker 1: It was terrible. I mean that that I mean you

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Speaker 2: The way he can finish the fight with an elbow,

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Speaker 2: he can submit elbowed and then that that back, that spinning,

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Speaker 3: Pull step a man and you and he and you.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't telegraph it well.

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Speaker 3: The box the heavyweights, so boxing and wrestling, they're not

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Speaker 3: doing all that. You could tell right away when he

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Speaker 3: with all kinds of stuff. John hit him with knees, elbows,

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Speaker 3: spinning kicks. When he hit him with that spinning kick,

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Speaker 3: guy that hadn't fought for three and a half years

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00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: and was forty two. He looked and he just turned

433
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: down you. I was like, oh, John got him. But

434
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 3: he is very good at setting everything up. That's why

435
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: he didn't have to cheat. He did not have to cheat.

436
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 3: That's where my biggest issue is, like, you don't need

437
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: to cheat. You got all that keep that used what

438
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: you have, and he gonna always get mad at me.

439
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: You go be on me.

440
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 3: No, it is oh the other thing he said, you

441
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: live rich free of my house in my brain or

442
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: something like that. I'm like, man, shut up.

443
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: Obviously you were there when Anderson Silva was that.

444
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 3: Rock hole or was that chail Son?

445
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: No, when he checked him?

446
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 3: When when when that was Chris Widman?

447
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: Had you ever seen have you ever said? Had you

448
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: ever seen that before? Because it happened again. Another fighter

449
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: got checked.

450
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 3: Hey, Chris Wideman checked and his this broke his leg.

451
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

452
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: Then Chris Wiman kicked somebody else. Widman kicked a guy

453
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 3: named Riot Hall broke his leg. So the same thing

454
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: that happened and Anderson Chris did to himself. I can't

455
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: watch it. Did you watch it? I watched it. Can

456
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 3: you actually watch them? I can't. It looked like this

457
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: fizz leg.

458
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it like broke half.

459
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you watched it. I can't watch it even next

460
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: to the octagen.

461
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: But I watched it. I was watching it live at

462
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: the time.

463
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 3: But all those replays, I was like, how to look.

464
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 2: Because when you see it, you're like, damn that look

465
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: and then you like he tried to you know, you know,

466
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: you try to put you know, trying to balance yourself

467
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: and you just I'm like.

468
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: Damn, look like his leg. Yes, dude, I have to

469
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: ask Roguan and Ane. I'm like, I'm like, did it break?

470
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: Did it break? Did the break? They're like, oh, it broke?

471
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 3: It was like, do not watch it. I was a

472
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: throw up.

473
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean because you guys know how to how to

474
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: check because it's called you know you.

475
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: Check, you like you check the kick. Yeah, you put.

476
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: You either lean into it or you pick your you

477
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: pick your your your knee up. And they were doing

478
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: were kicking on the inside. That's why when you kick

479
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: on the inside, they just turned their knee in that.

480
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: If you kick too hard, man, you break your leg.

481
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: That's why I don't kick too much. Yeah, I was

482
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 3: out of that boxing just like everybody else.

483
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: What's the worst injury you sustained in the fight.

484
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: In a fight, just more damage like facial stuff like

485
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: black eye, cut face. I never got hurt really bad

486
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 3: in fights, but in training ribs torn a c l

487
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: uh torn a cl ribs. I tore some sort of

488
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 3: this this ligament in my shin one time kicking, Uh

489
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: broke broken hand Like I couldn't. I couldn't punch. I

490
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: didn't know how to punch. Like remember the just have

491
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: this idea that Floyd had like hands. Yes, that was me.

492
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 3: Like I broke my hand five times when I started fighting. Wow,

493
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: every time I would land right, I would I would

494
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: break my hand. So then I have a doctor called

495
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: stead Of. He did a great job with my with

496
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: this and it never broke again. He put a plate

497
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: with like eight screws because it just kept breaking. But

498
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: when knocking someone out, you don't feel nothing. You literally

499
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: don't feel anything. If you knock him out with a punch.

500
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: It's like sometimes you feel and it's like that loud

501
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: impact when you land the right way. Sometimes it's like

502
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: you don't even punch him. It's like you go right

503
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: through them. But you know it well, they fall, they fall.

504
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: When I had steep A with that one that put

505
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: him down to become the double Champ, I had just

506
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: I had thrown that punch so many times and it

507
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: just so happened to hit him and he went down.

508
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I didn't even feel nothing.

509
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like with Usmann.

510
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 3: George knoswdal, Yeah, when he called him with his chin

511
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: went all away.

512
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness.

513
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 3: Maza Do was mad at me one time because they

514
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: I was on. I was on the NFL NFL Alive.

515
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: I said, with the mug when you when you you

516
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: called him, I put him in, put him in a

517
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: concussion broke call though he gotta go in the tenth

518
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: because his chin went all the way back there. Yeah,

519
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: he went down bad. That was Camorrow punched through him

520
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: and he just crumbled. Yeah, that was nasty. Tomorrow looked

521
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: good coming back.

522
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: Let me see this.

523
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: When you saw Anderson Sila, he could bound his box

524
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: a little bit, but he thought Jake Paul.

525
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: See that's I have a problem with all that. I

526
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: don't know how y'all feel. I don't know how you

527
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: guys feel about the Jake Paul Anderson, the Jake Paul I.

528
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: Wanted to fight boxes boxing at his age. Yes, I

529
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: don't think that's asking too much. No, Mike Tyson, Yeah,

530
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson's you beat up on Mike. Mike sixty man,

531
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: Mike did make like twenty seven meals, so I get it.

532
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: But sixty years old. I want Jake Paul to fight

533
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: guys that he said he wants to fight Canelo. Canelo

534
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: fights one fifty four and one sixty. That's one of

535
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: his best ways. He'll fight over your care. He fought

536
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: he thought the guy at one yeah and got bivil. Yeah,

537
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: but like it's like fight Jake waighs two hundred, two

538
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: hundred ten to fifteen.

539
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I means so that means he'd be a heavyweight.

540
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like a heavyweight.

541
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: And he told me he said he wants to fight

542
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua.

543
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: That he's if he fights Anthony Joshua, all everybody's wish

544
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: and dream of him getting finished will come to fruition.

545
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: But I think the thing is he's better now. Yeah

546
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah. You no, he takes it serious.

547
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: He can fight.

548
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: You can you can appre you can appreciate that.

549
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 2: You can tell that he spends time in the gym,

550
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: you tell that he has serious coaches, and he's taking

551
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: this Craft series. He ain't just getting in there. And

552
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, it's.

553
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: Just he's a YouTuber. No he ain't.

554
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: No, he's a box no, no, no, no, no, no,

555
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: no no.

556
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: So Jake Paul's a millionaire. Yeah, Jake Paul's not training

557
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: at the local YMCA. He's got real coaches on the side.

558
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: He got real he's gotten high level coaches. Yes, and

559
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: he lives to box now. Yes, he's been boxing seriously now,

560
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: so he should be able to compete. Yes, he's a boxer.

561
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Not he's not that same kid. That's why I keep

562
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: telling those MMA guys every time they tell me I

563
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: got a chance to fight, Uh Jake Paul, I'm like, man,

564
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 3: don't do it.

565
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: Because because he boxed, that's what he does.

566
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: He's a boxer, you know, not a box No, like

567
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: my friend been asking, Ben wenting faugh him. Ben should

568
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: have never fought him, Yeah, because he was gonna get

569
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: Ben never could wrestle, he could never box. No, he

570
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: is a wrestler. Tyron Woodley. I was so sad when

571
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: Tyron Woodley kept losing him. I love t wood Man,

572
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: and I was like T woods like, you.

573
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Don't see the buttet love. You don't see them punches, Bro,

574
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: You're not That's.

575
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: Not what That's not what we do. I can't box

576
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 3: these guys. He tried to. Jake Paul tried to uh

577
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: mess with me for a while until I went up

578
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: to him in Orlando. I said, I don't play like

579
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: these kids. I said, stop playing with me. His bodyguard

580
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: I said, oh, I said, I'm gonna slap YouTube.

581
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: I said, I don't play like that.

582
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: Man, don't leave me alone. I swear to god, I

583
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: was at the commentary that sham. Yeah, I'm sitting there,

584
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: he in the back making faces at me. I took

585
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: my hand set off, I put it down. I got up,

586
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: walked right the way he was and the stands point

587
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: right in his face. I said, man, I don't play

588
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: leave me alone. I said, if I do children that

589
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: you mess around with, I'm not gonna play with you.

590
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: Leave me alone.

591
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: His body go, ye, won't do nothing. I said, I'm

592
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: gonna slapping shit out of YouTube body. Y'all can get it.

593
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: The security security security can't get me because you know, man,

594
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: come on, we grown up man.

595
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: We don't like I'm not like that.

596
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: No, man, leave me alone unless you really want to

597
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: fight John Jones. I respect because he fights me, but

598
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: leave me alone, don't. I'm not playing those childes game, right, Yeah,

599
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: leave me alone.

600
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: Do you think you see the guys in MLMA going

601
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: to fight go in the box for the money, for

602
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: the money.

603
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: They do it for the money. They look man, No, no, no,

604
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: there's only a select few people that make the big

605
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: money in the USC.

606
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Correct.

607
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: It's the goud on his truth. I mean champions make money. Yes,

608
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: Lorenzo for Tita was the best. When Lorezo Fortito was there,

609
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: he would do these discretionary bonuses. Yeah, where they would

610
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: just give you money. He had an idea of when

611
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: he wanted a champion to make and he would make

612
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: sure you got it. So when I fought John Jones,

613
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: my contract was eighty five thousand dollars. I lost the

614
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: first time. On Monday, dan It called me and goes,

615
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: you did a great job. We're gonna send you a

616
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: check for a million dollars.

617
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: What swear to God eighty five? And did you got?

618
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: He gave me a million dollars. They gave me a

619
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: million dollars a check for the first time ever made

620
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: that obviously as a wrestler. It was the first time

621
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: I'd ever made seven figures. They called me and said,

622
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: you did a great job. Here you go. Then I

623
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: fought again a few months later and I had got

624
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: a new contract and it might have been three hundred thousand,

625
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: and then we sold a few hundred thousand pay per

626
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: views and they called me and said, hey, we're gonna

627
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: give you X amount of dollars to get you back

628
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: to a million dollars. Wow, they would do that, man,

629
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: They were like, because that's what people don't understand. Like,

630
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: I know they thought it, well, this guy, these guys

631
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: are underpaid. But it's like when you become a champion

632
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: and then you're benefiting the business they did carry you.

633
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: And but even even the lowest boxers make are so.

634
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: Low bro like that makes seem like everybody making Floyd

635
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: made with the money.

636
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: They are not all making that money, but they're making

637
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.

638
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: Right, I mean they make them look like but like

639
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: you said, but the good guys.

640
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: Will make good money. What does a guy make that

641
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 3: so tanking? All them dudes are getting paid right now,

642
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: they're in a million. But they're they're the equivalent of

643
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: the Iliot, the porious and the israel out. Yes they're

644
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: they're those guys. But as you go down, as you

645
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: go down the card and you go down the pay scale,

646
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: I bet it's all pretty equivalent, are very equal. So yeah,

647
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: people talk like all boxers make money, they don't.

648
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: You work for the company now in the commentary, but

649
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: how they're negotiating with Dana as a fighter, or do

650
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: you did you negotiate?

651
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: I've managers, but I was always I was always really

652
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: good about that. I would stand on what I believed.

653
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: You know, one time I got he he was he

654
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: was like, that didn't happen. I was like, but it did, boss.

655
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: I was like, of course it did.

656
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: Boss.

657
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: I said, Uh, you were negotiating my contract when I

658
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: first came over, and I wanted like a certain amount

659
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: of money, didn't want to do it. Dana was like

660
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: kind of throwing a fit. Lorenzo goes, it's fine and

661
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 3: we'll figure it out. And by the time I got

662
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: to the airport, it was figured out right right, and

663
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: he was like, that didn't happen. I was like it did.

664
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: I was like, it's not a big deal because I

665
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: understand you have to protect your business right, and I

666
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: have to protect myself as a business because I'm a

667
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: small window to happen. But then when I was retiring,

668
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: right Hunter Campbell, who now does a lot of the

669
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: stuff with the guys, he calls my managers and he goes, so, guys,

670
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: what do you think, same as he made his champ

671
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: plus pay per view, Like, yeah, even though I wasn't

672
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: a champ, they still gave me the same pay I

673
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: made as a champion and the pay per view. So

674
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: it's like, I have nothing negative to say because I've

675
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: had all greater. The worst experience I had was that

676
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: when he said I don't want to give you that,

677
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: and I was like, well, okay, then I'll just fight

678
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: and then I won't have a contract and then we

679
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: can negotiate after that. And they're like, huh, we ain't

680
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: doing that. We ain't gonna let you get to Francis.

681
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: We ain't letting you get the undefeated heavyweight or light

682
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: heavyweight with no contract, where other people can start going, hey,

683
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 3: we want you right. So then eventually I just resound

684
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: the company.

685
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: If Dana were to ever step down, would you run

686
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: the UFCATION?

687
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: That would be a dream job for anybody. But of

688
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: course I would love to do something if they ever,

689
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: if they ever trusted me with that, I would do

690
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: the best job I ever could do, because it's one

691
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: of the greatest organizations in the world. It's one of

692
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: the biggest sports organizations in the world, and they've done

693
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: such a great job of building it that the job

694
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: itself is just don't don't mess it up. Because Dana

695
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: does what he does is he's so passionate about it

696
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: that I can't imagine the UFC without him.

697
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: But if not, but Danna's standing on business.

698
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: Now he standing on business. You can be his best friend.

699
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: He's gonna get you. He's gonna put You're gonna walk

700
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: you out the door and say, look that a little

701
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: bit I'm running out. You give a little small port

702
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: right there. Yeah, hit me up. That's good. That's pretty

703
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: good man, it's great. I'm taking that bottle. You can

704
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: take it.

705
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: That's coming with me now, but you will get your

706
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: address with sing to you your dad.

707
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: My pop's passed away, but I'm sorry that it's okay, but.

708
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: We make sure we make sure you take that you tell.

709
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: I won't drink it in his honor. I'm gonna do

710
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: exactly like him. My Positis show home. My Pathers had

711
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: the hard days. Man. My postle was working hard, and

712
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: he grew up hard, grew hard and working outside. My

713
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: dad used to show up sitting that truck for two

714
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: hours because he knew hard that at work gotta come

715
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: deal with us.

716
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably had to help something days to come.

717
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: He did, Yes, he did.

718
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan, I didn't know a whole lot about Joe Rogan.

719
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: I just knew him as the guy that fear factor.

720
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: So I didn't know that he became Joe Rogan.

721
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what I mean, because I love fear Factor.

722
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: And then they just got too they just got too

723
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: ridiculous with it. Me, I can't do this no more.

724
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: It was I mean, it was really good. The first

725
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: couple of seasons was really really good. And to see

726
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: what he's turned into as a podcaster. But in the MMA,

727
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: in UFC, he's the Howard Cosel.

728
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, he's very good.

729
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: He's I mean, he is very very good.

730
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 3: I've never met a person that actually remembers more than Rogan.

731
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: We go to dinner after the fights. Yeah, and uh,

732
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: He'll be talking about events and you f C fifteen

733
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, UFC fifteen was that in two thousand and.

734
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Four, bro, we had three hundred Now you're talking about Yeah, He's.

735
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 3: Like, I'm telling you like this, but his memory, Jurick

736
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 3: call all these things and I've never seen it anything

737
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 3: like it. But yeah, and and and Shannon. It says

738
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: something when you do a job just for the love

739
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: of doing the job, when you don't have to do it.

740
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: Joe doesn't have to do you with the Spotify thing

741
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: that he has going on and everything, and.

742
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: Dana said that when he first started doing it, and

743
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: he did it for free. Yeah, he called a fight

744
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: for free the like, and you know then they've worked

745
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: it out something later. But just because he loved the

746
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: sports so much, and and you know he fights into obviously,

747
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: you know he he know, he works at it and uh,

748
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: uh but he does an unbelievable job.

749
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: He's tremendous.

750
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: Man.

751
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: I think he does a great job of call the fights,

752
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: and I think that he and you could tell his

753
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: passion for it and everything. I mean, you guys do.

754
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 3: So you guys do like I mean, hours and hours

755
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: of TV a week. You gotta love this too, or

756
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: you can't do it. You can and you can feel it.

757
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 3: I can see it in YouTube. I've watched you from

758
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: Afar and I've admired how well you've done and how

759
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: you've really you really broke through the glass ceiling because

760
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: there was there was an idea of who you were

761
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: supposed to be at Fox. Yeah, and then eventually you

762
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: said this idea is now it doesn't work for me, right,

763
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: and you became bigger than that idea. And now it's like,

764
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 3: so I'm so happy. I don't really know you. Well, look,

765
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you, but I'm happy for what you've

766
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: done and what you accomplished because you deserve it. Man,

767
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: hard work deserves to get credit for it.

768
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: And I've watched it that. Yeah. Let me ask you this,

769
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: what have you most learned about money?

770
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Because growing up how you grew up, you know, living

771
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: out fifteen hundred bucks a month and you got a

772
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: twelve hundred dollars rent and then basically I got to

773
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: eat for the next twenty nine days. I got to

774
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: live up one hundred and fifty bucks. Yeah, now that

775
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: you have you make decent money. Yep, what have you

776
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: learned about it?

777
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: Money's hard to keep. Money's very hard to keep. That

778
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: other people don't understand. Money's hard to keep. You pay

779
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: a lot, pay a lot of taxes, you pay a

780
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: lot of other things. It just gives you an opportunity.

781
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: I feel like money gives you the ability one you're

782
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: going to be exactly who you ever want it to be.

783
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: So if a person's ugly because they have money, they

784
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: always were ugly, they just didn't have the ability to

785
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: be ugly, You're going to be exactly who you want

786
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: to be. And you have access to more things that

787
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: you have to have. And I also learned that because

788
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: you have the ability to pay for stuff, most things

789
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: are free.

790
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: Isn't that the craziest crazy thing. Well, you are to

791
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: have the most money, they get the most stuff for free.

792
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: When you are living off that fifteen hundred, you want

793
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: to go buy, you want something, you got to pay

794
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: for it. But when you have the money that you

795
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: have and you can pay for it, everybody's like, could

796
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: you please just take this? And I just want to

797
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: see you have it. Hold it, Shannon, could you just

798
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: hold it? And you're like OK. And most times you're like,

799
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: I'd rather pay for its. That'll hold it for you.

800
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: It's like, it's just it's just that, but also just

801
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: that it gives you a free It's it's it's freedom.

802
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: It really is just freedom. Like it's it's a freedom

803
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: to do things and take care of the people that

804
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: you love more than anything. I bought mama house.

805
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

806
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: That was one of my greatest accomplishments. Yes, to have

807
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: her get a big house.

808
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: Right.

809
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: And then my mom was a house cleaner whenever I

810
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: was growing up. So she would take us to these

811
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: people's houses and while she worked. The people were beautiful.

812
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: One family ast do remember to this day called the

813
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: Low Family in Louisiana, Lafayette. She'd go Monday and Wednesday.

814
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: There they gave us a car. They gave us like

815
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 3: a brand new car. Just this wonderful family people I had.

816
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: I made sure she had house cleaners when she was older. Wow.

817
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: So instead of going to clean people's houses, like those

818
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 3: are the things that I'm so proud of in my life,

819
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 3: in my career that you were to do for your mom.

820
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: I mean you know that you do. It's like there

821
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: are people in your life that mean more than anything,

822
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: and that's uh, you take care of them.

823
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: Finding a bait obviously wrestling, you know, and the like

824
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: they come and to look like they beaten down your

825
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: door and said, oh yeah, I want I want to

826
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: because it's not like you know, you're down on television.

827
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: It's it's a hard job. It's a grimmy job. Your

828
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: moody some days better than others. When you found a wife,

829
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: how did you know?

830
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: I've had multiple? So yeah, you get I'm not the

831
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: best in love, you know what?

832
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: And and and I tell someone who's telling me this

833
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: the other day, They says, Shannon, the best and worst decision.

834
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: When you made the best decision, do you know it

835
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: was the best decision at the time, No?

836
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: No. When you made the worst decision, did you know

837
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: it was the worst decision at the time.

838
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: No.

839
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: No. You just live with the decisions you make. That's

840
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 3: all you can really do. But you part of being

841
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: great is being selfish.

842
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: You gotta be and.

843
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: When you're so selfish, it's hard for relationships to work, absolutely,

844
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: and I think that is like probably the thing that

845
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: athletes need to worry about the most, because.

846
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: You got to find somebody that understands yes, and not

847
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: many people do. They don't.

848
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: It's really hard.

849
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: Everybody say they can be Oh, I understand. Everybody can

850
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: be second until they actually have to be second.

851
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 3: Until also until everybody can be second when they don't

852
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: have the moment there's a comfortability to life. It's like,

853
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: wait a minute, everything that we hoped would happen has

854
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: now happened. Not worry about, but it's not done yet.

855
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: The job's never done.

856
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: No.

857
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: I feel like for high thinkers like you and myself

858
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: to just retire. Could you imagine that as you die,

859
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: I was a part of you would die. And so

860
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: for me it's like I need to be chasing career.

861
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: I need to be I gotta work, a worker, gotta work.

862
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: It's what I was put on this earth to do.

863
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 3: But that can be seen as selfish.

864
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: It is, and but that's the.

865
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: That's the only way you can become great, the only

866
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: way there, and greatness is not a some time thing.

867
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: It's an all the time thing.

868
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: It's an all the time thing. You don't get to

869
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: be great just when you want to be great in

870
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: front of people. You got to be willing to do

871
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: that work behind closed doors. Yeah, but you don't never

872
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: know anything.

873
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: Your biofe father was shot and killed by his second wife. Yep, yep,

874
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: father in self defense. Dude, you remember that?

875
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember. I remember watching things. Given day

876
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: of nineteen eighty six, were at my aunt's house, Mardorie.

877
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: We're all sitting down, we ate, we're all watching the

878
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: color purple, and my mom getting a call and she

879
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: goes crazy. It was hysterical. I was a seven year

880
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: old kid. I had no idea what was going on.

881
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: Then they told her, your dad's just been killed. You

882
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: Joseph has just been killed. Your ex has been killed.

883
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: She goes crazy. She has to sit down now and

884
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: tell me that my older brother is twelve years older

885
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: than me. Imagine a nineteen year old kid learning that

886
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: his father's been killed. I met seven, just crying because

887
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: I don't have the greatest memories. I don't have the

888
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't have the memories of my dad like like

889
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 3: your brother does, like my brother does. But I also

890
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: don't have like Shannon, I can retain one real vivid

891
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: memory of my father, and that was we were at

892
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 3: a truck stop because he drove trucks.

893
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: That's it.

894
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: That's the only real vivid memory I have of my father.

895
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: But my dad, Percy had already moved into my life

896
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: when I was three, so I'm four years into that

897
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: relationship with my mother, and it was just sad. Man.

898
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: I remember going to that funeral and I see my

899
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: dad in that casket. He's got two families, right, because

900
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: well my mom is not with him anymore. They have kids.

901
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: Hurry, action told me that you still loved your dad.

902
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: I don't think they ever fall out of love. It's

903
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: like something that they don't really let go of, especially

904
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: that first one. But my mom's sitting there with my dad,

905
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: and let me tell you, I knew my mom still

906
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: loved my dad. One time, I don't know if my dad.

907
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: I don't quite understand that my dad was I don't

908
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: know what it was. But my mom took the car

909
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: at a four way stop. The other woman was driving

910
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: the other car.

911
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: She hit her.

912
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: What she hit her, My mom was an angel. You

913
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: better hold My mom was an agent was an age.

914
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: She can't real car said, why did you hit her?

915
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: She goes, that's my call too, This is my call,

916
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: that's my call. I want to record, I go record.

917
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: I said, Oh my god, it was a little red light.

918
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: It was a bumper, but it wasn't like a hard hit.

919
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: But she like she hit her.

920
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: But yes, but yes, so yes, she must have still

921
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: loved my dad. But yeah, it was, it was. It

922
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: was awful.

923
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: You mentioned that your stepfather being came in your life

924
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: at a very young age. Yes, what did you learn

925
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: from him?

926
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: Everything? Everything personally been while I was man, he was

927
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: the best. He was the best. He he worked so hard.

928
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: He made decisions him and my mother that made me

929
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: appreciate them more than I don't know if I ever

930
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: could appreciate anyone in my life. When we were like

931
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: seven eight years old at that time, when my dad

932
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: got passed, they decided not to take over an assistance anymore.

933
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 3: We want to make it on our own. We were struggling,

934
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: but they did. They took no help. They just made

935
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: it on their own. Then they bought their first house together.

936
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: And then I watched that man get up in the

937
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: morning and he would go and work for the city

938
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: of Lafayette. It was hot, man, it was ninety five

939
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: one hundred degrees one hundred degree humidity. You know what

940
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: Louisiana's like. He would take the lime and make the

941
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: baseball fields and could cut the fields and the grass,

942
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: and he would come home at five point thirty, eat

943
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: real quick, and he would get a bath because we

944
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: didn't have a shower, jump in his truck and go

945
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: to a pizza parlor and wash dishes to make an

946
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: extra sixty bucks every time he did that. And he

947
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: did that constantly. And then when I got old enough,

948
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: I realized more what he was doing. When the days

949
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: that he wasn't going back to there, he was going

950
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: to the cemetery and he was cutting it and he

951
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: was weed eating next to the graves to make more money.

952
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: So when I got old enough, he started taking me

953
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: with him and he's like, you get thirty five dollars

954
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: a month, so every time you do this, I guess

955
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 3: I made eight or ten dollars, right, because it would

956
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: take us a little bit of time. I learned to work.

957
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: He taught me to work, and I think by him

958
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: teaching me to work, it is defined my life. It's

959
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: defined my life. I don't. I was the captain of

960
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: the Olympic wrestling team and it's because I worked hard.

961
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: They saw me. They saw me and said, I want

962
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: this guy to lead our team.

963
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: Is that the type of father you are? You got

964
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: to be with Percy, what's to your own?

965
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: That's what I try to be for my kids. I

966
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: try to be present and show them I'm working. Man,

967
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm making a life for you guys that can be

968
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: and I hope that you see and appreciate what I'm

969
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 3: doing because while I don't see the struggle, they don't

970
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: see the struggle that I saw. They do see that

971
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: their dad is willing to just I took my daughters

972
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 3: to a photo shoot I did for Monson and Energy

973
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 3: the other day and they were like, Dad, you work hard.

974
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I wanted to give you a just

975
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: kind of see what dad does when he gets up

976
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: at five am and he's back hold by six to

977
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: make sure you guys have dinner.

978
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: Right.

979
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: It's like those types of things they mean the world

980
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 3: of me. My dad was the best.

981
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: You lost your daughter I did man eighteen wheel accident.

982
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the worst. That was the worst. I've

983
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: had a lot of things happened in my life that

984
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: I try not to let define me. I try to like,

985
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: I try not to let like certain things define me,

986
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: like the bad. But yeah, that was the worst. I

987
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: was twenty three years old. I had a daughter named

988
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: kitaan memory, and we were in college or just finishing college.

989
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: So her mom was from Colleen, Texas, and they were

990
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: driving home to see her parents.

991
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: And.

992
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: But her car didn't have air conditioning, and she was like,

993
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my kid in the car with my

994
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: friend because they have a newer car. Yeah, they got

995
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: reared by Aten wheeler. That was the worst. If she

996
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: was with her mom, she would have been fine. But

997
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: we make these decisions at times that we think are

998
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: the right decision, and it has killed her mom's life.

999
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: I would you know what, DC, I was about to

1000
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: ask you. I bet she beat herself up. I should

1001
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: have I should have just rolled the window down. She

1002
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: should have been with me.

1003
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: Ye, her mom's life is it hadn't been the same,

1004
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: has it? No? That girl, that girl was on a

1005
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: track team at Oklahoma State. I went to school, and

1006
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: she had such a big future and now it's like

1007
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: she's at home taking care of her mother that that

1008
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: losing that kid, losing our kids like it killed her.

1009
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: I was able to I was able to spind it

1010
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 3: and say that every time I wrestle, every time I fight,

1011
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: I have an angel sitting on the cage to watch

1012
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 3: over me. Her mom was never able to do that.

1013
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: It's sad, man, It's yeah, that was the worst thing

1014
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: that's ever happened.

1015
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: Because parents, we expect that kids to bury us. Yes,

1016
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: we don't expect to bury it.

1017
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: Not that young not that young man. She's three and

1018
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: a half months old, so like to put her in

1019
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: a casket. Yeah, that shit sucks. I even think just

1020
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: thinking about it, like it sucks.

1021
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: Has it changed the relationship that you had with subsequent

1022
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: quid kid that you hold them tighter, that you like

1023
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: you realize how just how fragile life is that tomorrow

1024
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: is not promised even three hours from right now isn't promised.

1025
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: No, I know, yeah, it's it's uh, it is. It's

1026
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 3: bad to the point that Shannon, at times, you gotta

1027
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: like you have to I have to, like, I have

1028
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: to like consciously try not to be as much of

1029
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: a like a helicopter parent. I'm trying to, like because

1030
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: I know how important it is for them to experience things.

1031
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: But it is scary. Like my my son is getting

1032
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: old enough, I just started. I let him ride his

1033
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: bike to the barber shop now to get a haircut.

1034
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: That was something I could have never done. Never talk

1035
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: about it. A bifigre or motorbiketorycle one of those electric

1036
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: electric by Okay, okay, okay. So I let everybody, but

1037
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 3: I always but I make him put his location on

1038
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 3: the moment he leaves the house, location on. So I'm trying, dude,

1039
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: but it's hard. It really has. Uh, it really has

1040
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 3: changed me in terms of parenting. You try, you try.

1041
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: It's important. Like I did a lot growing up. I

1042
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: had a lot of freedom.

1043
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it.

1044
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: It gave me a little bit of like street smarts

1045
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: and the ability to adjust and make my way around life.

1046
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: You I mean probably people probably wouldn't know this about you,

1047
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: but you've had a I mean you've had a lot

1048
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: of death in your family.

1049
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Grandmother, your cousin, you lost a child at a very

1050
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: young age.

1051
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: M hmm.

1052
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: People ask me because they know how close I am

1053
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: with my grandmother. They would share, Shannon, how did you

1054
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: get over? I said, you never get over it. You

1055
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: just get better at dealing with it. Yeah, how have

1056
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: you been able to get better at dealing with lost?

1057
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: Uh? Well, when you lose a kid at that age,

1058
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: right like, you feel like nothing ever is going to

1059
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: feel worse. But I've done I've managed to I've managed

1060
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 3: to learn how to take those things and try to

1061
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: make them push me forward. So with my daughter, like

1062
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: I had never made a United States team after my

1063
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: daughter passed, I made six in a row. Swear to God.

1064
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: My daughter passed in June or in May of ay. Yes, yes,

1065
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: and from by all this, I wrestled in the World

1066
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: Championships for the first time, in the Olympic Games, and

1067
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: all the way through my mom when she passed a

1068
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Obviously I don't do anything competitive anymore.

1069
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 3: But in terms of my media career has just got bigger. Yep,

1070
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: because I work harder now because I know that even

1071
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: though I don't have to provide for her in the

1072
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 3: way that I did before, I still need to work

1073
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: because she was part of that one. Yes, I want

1074
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: to do more TV because she watched everything, right, so

1075
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: even though she's not there watching now, like I know

1076
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: she watched it. Also, I try to. I try to

1077
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: spin it. It's the only way because otherwise it cripples you.

1078
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: It does. It really does cripple you. Like you and

1079
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: your like I've heard stories about you and your grandmother

1080
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: and it's like in all special old lady she was

1081
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: to you.

1082
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

1083
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, you don't. You don't ever get over losing

1084
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: somebody you love that much. You can't.

1085
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: This cutting weight thing. You said that, and this Thanksgiving

1086
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: you weigh two fifty seven. Yeah, and basically forty five

1087
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: fifty days you were down to two h four Yep.

1088
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: Obviously that's very taxing on the body.

1089
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: Yes, it is very taxing to cut that kind of

1090
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: water weight, because that's not that's not all just you know,

1091
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: good weight.

1092
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you went the renal fairure at one time, right,

1093
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: I did.

1094
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 3: I did Olympic Games. Yeah, but I wasn't that big

1095
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: at the time. I was just in wrestling. I didn't

1096
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: have the access to the I didn't have the access

1097
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: of the resources. I couldn't have done that without my

1098
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: chef I had, like Tyler Minton was working for him

1099
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: at the time.

1100
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: He uh.

1101
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: Every meal, every meal, every drink. He would feed me.

1102
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: Then he would write it he would feed me, then

1103
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: he would write it down. I got to drink at

1104
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 3: kombucha every day. That was it. Outside of water, that's

1105
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: all I had, and some sort of like electrolyte stuff

1106
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: to make sure I wasn't cramping when I went to

1107
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: the cage to train it. But outside of like that,

1108
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: I had water and eat every meal ego and at

1109
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: the right times when I was wrestling, I would I

1110
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: would eat until Wednesday and then I just would not

1111
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: eat until I wait in on Friday or Saturday. I

1112
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: would go three days without anything. But Rob Dwallace Wally

1113
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: still does that. The champion won thirty five years. He

1114
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: just will not eat.

1115
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: I don't.

1116
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: I don't. You don't have to do it that way anymore.

1117
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: You don't use that money. But yeah, I would. Uh

1118
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: my kidneys quit on me at the Olympic Games. Never

1119
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: in the hospital that was in a diamond.

1120
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: Because they don't let you take diarretics does it.

1121
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: Can't take diretics, can't take ivs, can't do nothing. If

1122
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: I could have took an IV after weighs, I'd have

1123
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: been fined r right. It was right before the Olympic

1124
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: Games that they did away with ivs. I didn't want

1125
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: to cheat. I didn't want to cheat my body, dude.

1126
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: That was that was what's what's the most weight you've

1127
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: had to cut? So by by design, if I was

1128
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: fighting on if I was fighting on Saturday, when I

1129
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: showed up to Vegas on Tuesday, I probably was like

1130
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: two twenty if it was good. But I remember one

1131
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: time I in New York against Rumbo and Buffalo, I

1132
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: was like thirty one on Sunday before the fight on Saturday,

1133
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: what two thirty one.

1134
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: And you gotta get down to two oh five.

1135
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I was like I was heavy, so I'd

1136
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: go run lose like five pounds. You lose a lot

1137
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 3: of weight chanting, yeah, and you drink a lot of water.

1138
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: Those these nutritions are so good at manipulating weight. Now, yes,

1139
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: you have no idea.

1140
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: So like.

1141
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: If I'm like two seventeen to eighteen to twenty.

1142
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: Like two twenty, you sweets by you and your wheel

1143
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: because because now.

1144
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: I've got that with two gallons of water in a day, right, right,

1145
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 3: that's sixteen pounds a minimum. So by the time I

1146
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: get in that song and I'm like, it all comes off,

1147
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: but it's only for a short period of time, right,

1148
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 3: Like I'm at two o four and a half or

1149
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: maybe an hour.

1150
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: When you reap, when you re hydrate, Yeah, what are you?

1151
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: What are you going back up to? You go rebound

1152
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: to what? Twenty twenty?

1153
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1154
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: When John Jones? For when I thought John Jones and

1155
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: I was in peak physical condition, Yes, there was nothing

1156
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: I could do to get over to twenty two. Like,

1157
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: I mean literally trained there for the last four weeks

1158
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: of camp because I was so locked in. Right when

1159
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: I fought Rumbo Johnson. I weigh two thirty one on

1160
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: Saturday night when I thought him. The next day, wow,

1161
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: I weighed two or five Yeah, two of I gained

1162
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: twenty six pounds overnight. That's too much. I felt so

1163
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: sluggish and horrible, right, but yeah, I've cut a lot

1164
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: of weight. I used you lose like ten pounds an

1165
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: hour ago when you do those weight cuts.

1166
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

1167
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: Do you feel your height? I mean because like you

1168
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: a little, but probably your take under six foot tall.

1169
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 3: I'm five. I've gotten shorter. I'm like on a good

1170
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: day five ten and a half, I was, I've shrunk sham.

1171
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: Have you shrunk out off? You gotten shorter?

1172
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so too. I think as we get older,

1173
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: we shrink it. I believe I have.

1174
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: But when you, when you you used like for you,

1175
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: I would think somebody your side your height would be ideal.

1176
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: It is ideal for wrestling because you because you got

1177
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: a short turns over, but you got long.

1178
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: Legs, compact. Yeah, and I'm good at gtting close once

1179
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: I get, once I can get. If I get they

1180
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: say I'm sticky. If I get close to you, I'm

1181
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 3: sticking to you like you're stuck in the fly trap.

1182
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: Like seriously, it's like, so.

1183
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: You tried to close the distance.

1184
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: Or if I got close, you're in trouble. If I

1185
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: can grab you by the head, I'm punching you up

1186
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: a cuts. If I can grab your leg, then really

1187
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: in trouble because I had a thousand ways to finish

1188
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: the takedown. The moment I got your leg, you're in

1189
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble. Yeah, because I'm either going to

1190
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: move here, left, right, up, down. It's all subtleties. It's

1191
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: the same thing like how what so, Like Shannon, I

1192
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: could I could actually try to guard you right now,

1193
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: and I could not, because even if you might not

1194
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: be able to run as fast as you did, you're

1195
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 3: gonna give me something in the shoulders or something in

1196
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: the eyes, you're gonna get some separation.

1197
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: Correct.

1198
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: That's me and wrestling. I'm just like here, here, here, here,

1199
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: and they get lost.

1200
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: It's funny like when you grab somebody here because I'm

1201
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 2: watching these boxes and you watch him close up. He'll

1202
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: throw a punt and he put his hand up because

1203
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: he knows me, and he'll do this, and he'll throw that. Oh,

1204
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: he'll do this and he'll do that. So you know, like,

1205
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: if I got this, I know what he's gonna do.

1206
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'll manipulate you to do what I want you

1207
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: to do. Wow, yeah, I'll manipulate you. That's why, like

1208
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: my takedown offense, I think I might have landed fifty

1209
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: percent of my takedown was forty. Wow. They're like, dude,

1210
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: you only landed forty. Yeah. But the first few aren't

1211
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: designed to take you down, right, They're to set you

1212
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: up for number four, five, and six, and I really

1213
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: want to get you out. Then you get up in

1214
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: the air, I flip you or I trip you or

1215
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: it's like yeah, it's like it's all setups.

1216
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned boxing was your first love, though.

1217
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: Yep, I did, because it's all I knew. It's what

1218
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: we knew. Like they would watch my uncles all watch

1219
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: The Wild War to Sports every weekend and we'd watch

1220
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: like George Foreman clips and mom and I'll leave clips

1221
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson. So it's like we're watching this greatness and

1222
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: it looks like us, right, that is where the difference was.

1223
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: You watch that greatness and it's like, Wow, this dude

1224
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 3: looks like he could be where I'm from and he's

1225
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: making He's the man, He's a superstar. That's what drop

1226
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: drew me in the boxing, because every story was about

1227
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: a kid from a tough neighborhood. Yes, he was from Michigan,

1228
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: he was from Louisville, Kentucky. He is from like just

1229
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: all these billy billy streets. Yeah mean street's like wait

1230
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: a minute, this looks very familiar. And look at him today.

1231
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, it just drew me in. Like Budd and Canilo,

1232
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: that's a tough fight. I saw Bud recently. He's big yo.

1233
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 3: Bud's son is ridiculous. We had WrestleMania right up the street.

1234
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: He got a belt. He walked past me and he

1235
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: was looking at me the whole time. He looked at me,

1236
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: say you the wrestler I knocked you out on UFC.

1237
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: I was like, boy, you crazy when he's crazy, Budd

1238
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: told me at the whip him. Bud said, he went

1239
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: to sewn uh, what's his name, Sean Crawford, Sean Taylor, SHAWNA,

1240
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: Shawn Shan Porter. Bud said, Sean Budd said that saying

1241
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: what Sean Porter said, my dad knocked you out. Sean

1242
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: Porter at the caller and be like, Welly's that's crazy.

1243
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: But I had to speak you he crazy, But yes,

1244
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 3: he's bigger. It's a big time fight. That a little

1245
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: better have his game ready because if not, he's gonna

1246
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: get beat by Bud.

1247
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bud, but I mean, like I said, Budd, but

1248
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean Bud walks Bud party. You know last part

1249
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: of you know Junior Middlewe at one fifty four, but

1250
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: Bud walks around in like one eight.

1251
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: He's big man. And he's tall too. Yeah, he's very tall.

1252
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: He looked big. I saw him inside the the APEX

1253
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: training yeap, he looked big. You would watch him train two?

1254
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: No, we did. We did an interview with him and

1255
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: he I say, he's stronger than your think.

1256
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: He's stronger than you could tell you.

1257
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's strong his hands for he does. You were

1258
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: bullied as a kid. Is that why you got into

1259
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: wrestling and fighting him? Because you were bully? You like,

1260
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: I ain't taking this issue.

1261
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: So I was bullied bad Shannon, Like, this guy used

1262
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: to beat me up all the time. He would beat

1263
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: me up for the reason. It was like no reason

1264
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: to fight me. He would just pick off me. If

1265
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 3: they could have three other kids fight, he would show

1266
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 3: up to watch the fight. The ones that fight was over.

1267
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: He's like, sh I might as well give me one.

1268
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: Did they get a I was scared too. I was

1269
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: so scared of him, and then I learned to wrestle.

1270
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: Once I got him was over. Man. Once I got him,

1271
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 3: once it was over. But yeah, yeah, it gave me

1272
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: self defense. I think wrestling is so important for kids

1273
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: because then you learn to defend yourself and also it

1274
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 3: gives you a confidence. I got this academy in Gilroy,

1275
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: the Dating Court Wrestle Academy. Kids walk in there hunched over,

1276
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: looking like scared because the ones that have been doing

1277
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: it for a while have this intensity about him. They're

1278
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: strong and they're confidence. Six months later they're like walking

1279
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: in with some I'm like, okay, yeah, that's what I need.

1280
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: That's what wrestling gives you. I think it's the best.

1281
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: Right. Have you ever been arrested for screen fighting?

1282
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: One time? I got a wrestling in college when I

1283
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: was a freshman. I punched the guy.

1284
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: Man, what do you do?

1285
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: So I went to a junior college in Kansas, and

1286
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 3: one of the biggest mistakes that young black men make

1287
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: when they go to different places is they almost try

1288
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: to recreate themselves. You can be a great kid, but

1289
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: you will portray yourself as a gangster or a bad

1290
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: guy because you want people to not only respect you,

1291
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: you want to make sure you fit in and they

1292
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 3: kind of fear you a little bit. Yep, it's like

1293
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: very important. So I did that, and I'm at this

1294
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: party and we got this party and the guy comes

1295
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: out it is his house, and he starts talking and

1296
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 3: he said something that I viewed as disrespectful when he

1297
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: came charges towards me, so I punched him. Bro I

1298
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: don't know if his jaw was like super like loose,

1299
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 3: because he went down and his jaw broke really bad.

1300
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: So blood's like everywhere we run off. Me and all

1301
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 3: my wrestler friends. The cops come to get us. We're

1302
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: in Kansas. I was like, well, man, we saw I

1303
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: saw this Mexican dude do it and run away. They said, nah, man,

1304
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: it was you. It was you.

1305
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: You're not trying to put it off.

1306
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: I try to put it on a Mexican dude.

1307
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: Man.

1308
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I ain't got many brown people

1309
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 3: out here. They ain't got many brown people out here.

1310
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: They said, no, it was you. They put me in jail.

1311
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: I was crying, dude. Then they put they put me

1312
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: in jail on a Friday night, Shaannon, and in those

1313
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 3: little towns Monday, and then once Monday come they got

1314
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: seventy two hours to see and they kept me in

1315
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: jail till Wednesday.

1316
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: Damn. I was crying.

1317
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: My mom actually to pay them to pay to get

1318
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: me out. She had to think, like put it up

1319
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: against her house to get me out of jail. She

1320
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: put her house on the line as a as counter

1321
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: for the for the baill yep. And then I was like,

1322
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: this one will do anything for me. I'm the one

1323
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: that messed up. I ran her phone bill up, calling

1324
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: her every day thousands of thousands of dollars. They ain't

1325
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: had nothing to pay that, but she answered it every time.

1326
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: That's why she was the best to me. Everybody like, oh,

1327
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: you love your mama more than you love anybody in

1328
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: the world. You saw what she did for me. She

1329
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: said she was the best.

1330
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: You tried some everything. You sold drugs as a kid.

1331
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: You tried to Channing. I was a bad drug dealer.

1332
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: You don't want to hear this story, shading. We made

1333
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: horrible We made fake drugs one time, old on.

1334
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: So when you cut grass and just put it.

1335
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 3: This was when I was a kid. No, no, no, no,

1336
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: Back when I was growing up, it wasn't weed. It

1337
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: was cracked. H I tried to sell cracks, Shanning. I was, bro,

1338
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 3: I need it twenty dollars.

1339
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 1: Bro, you don't know how to cook.

1340
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how to cook. I don't know. I

1341
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: don't know nothing about it. But listen what we did though.

1342
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: We took some wax, yeah, and put or gel on

1343
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: it because I guess that it must number the face

1344
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: or something. One of my friends told me that one

1345
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 3: he was Yeah. So I gave it to the drug.

1346
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 3: I gave it to the dude you gave he gave

1347
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 3: me the money. He's dark.

1348
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: He look up.

1349
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: I took off running. I took off.

1350
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: May he called me man. I gave you man, you

1351
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: got that bad. Ain't the crack?

1352
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: Now?

1353
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: That was the last time.

1354
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: That was the last time I ever dried some stupid

1355
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: shit like that. I was like, man's sports for me.

1356
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 3: It's bad.

1357
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 1: Could a boxer would be the m M A fighter

1358
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: in the street fight?

1359
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: No, No, they would get taken them. It would happen

1360
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 3: too fast. I saw James Tony fight Randy Coulteur. James

1361
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: Tony is one of the slickeest best boxers of all time.

1362
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: He tapped without actually tapping Randy. He just waved at

1363
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: the ref like saved me. That's what happens when the

1364
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: boxers fight. The baddest man on the planet baddest man

1365
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: on the planet is a mixed martial arts fighter, nothing

1366
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: else in terms of hand to hand combat. Yeah, the

1367
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: baddest man on the planet is the UFC heavyweight champion.

1368
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: Every time, unless Francis and Gano was out there fighting

1369
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 3: for someone else, and there's a chance that he's the

1370
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 3: baddest man on the planet, he might beat whoever we

1371
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: have because he's that good. But if not, it's either

1372
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: tom asminav Franceson and John Jones. Right now, those are

1373
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 3: the bad haestmen on the planet.

1374
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: Nobody else.

1375
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: We come back and have a conversation five years, ten

1376
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: years from now, what's DC doing.

1377
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 3: Probably the same thing, probably doing the same thing, work

1378
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,479
Speaker 3: in UFC fights. I love my job. I love calling fights.

1379
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 3: I think I have the best job in the world, podcasting,

1380
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: doing television. Same because I don't think that right now.

1381
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that right now. I'm willing to stop you.

1382
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: Like we said earlier, you're a worker.

1383
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm a worker.

1384
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 3: I just might be living in the town wherever my

1385
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 3: son or my daughter goes to college. I just can't

1386
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: let it go. I told my daughter the other day,

1387
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: if you, I said, pick a school close and I'll

1388
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: pay everything.

1389
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: You want to get it.

1390
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: You're thinking of colleges yet she goes, what, No, it's

1391
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: just just that I'm thirteen. I go, could you go

1392
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: to cal Like? Stay close? I go. I'll pay your rent,

1393
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 3: I'll give you a stipend, I'll do everything. She's like, No,

1394
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: you don't have to. You're you're good. You want to

1395
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: get away from my ass Courtmia, Yes, you know what

1396
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 3: I man if a Courtmia or Cormier Cormier Cormier Cormier DC.

1397
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: That was good.

1398
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Rustle Pa

1399
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: the price, wanta slice, Got the brother Dice, Swap all

1400
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 4: my life. Poppy grinding all my life, All my life,

1401
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 4: grinding all.

1402
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: My life, sacrifice, Hustle bat the price.

1403
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 4: Want a slice?

1404
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 3: Got the brother dice the swap all my life. Poppy

1405
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 3: grinding all my life,