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Everybody's 20 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three Now Podcasts Tuesday afternoon. Here's the plan. 21 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: We are going to fire through some NFL topics. We 22 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: will get to more of the game stuff on Thursday 23 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: and Friday. Obviously Stucky joins us on Thursdays. For Friday, 24 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: we'll break down a gambling standpoint and just the games, 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: and we will react to the players and coaches talking 26 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: over the next couple of days. But today's gonna be 27 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: more about some of the firings with coordinators. Some teams 28 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: hire gms. 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Not shocking anytime you pay a quarterback 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of money and he takes a step back 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: and the offense looks dramatically worse, even statistically at points 66 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: during the season, it wasn't that bad. The eye test 67 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: was bad, and Jalen definitely was not the same version 68 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: of the guy we saw last year. And let's face it, 69 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: there was a stat I saw today that no team, 70 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: either the guy got promoted to become a head coach 71 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: or was fired, has the same offensive coordinator from twenty 72 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: twenty two. So in a two year period, every team 73 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL has a new offensive coordinator. I think 74 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: how crazy that is. And it kind of makes sense, 75 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: right because it encompasses being around the most and the 76 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: highest paid guy on your team. And if he's not 77 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: the highest paid guy, that usually means he's on a 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: rookie contract or a guy you're trying to replace. But 79 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: the guy that every team is trying to find a 80 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: max player at that guy fair or not. And I 81 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: would say in twenty twenty four. It's very fair because 82 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: how much the game is predicated on throwing, The emphasis 83 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: and the urgency on that side of the ball is 84 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: an all time high. The other thing is, when you 85 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: get a good defensive coordinator, the guy might not be 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: hired right Like, Mike McDaniel does not need to worry 87 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: about Vic Fangio going to become a head coach. He's 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: never getting that shot again. Andy Reid is not losing 89 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: sleep that Steve Spagnola is going to become somebody's head coach, 90 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: even though he's been one of the better defensive coordinators 91 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: in the league last couple years. Doesn't have to think 92 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: about it. If Steve was an offensive coordinator and the 93 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs defense was their offense for the last two years, 94 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: he'd be interviewing everywhere like there is an and listen, 95 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: it's justified. But that position, that having that ability to 96 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: call plays and influence the quarterback feels like from an 97 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: owner's view and a front offices view, not a fifty 98 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: to fifty proposition than to the other side of the ball. 99 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: It feels much more like it's eighty twenty and the 100 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: league reflects that, and your time in that position is 101 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: never going to be more short lived. If you do 102 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: not produce, you will get run out of town immediately. 103 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: Now it's football. Coordinators have always been fired, but it 104 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: feels like you're the leash that you have is not 105 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: very long. I mean, Brian Johnson had been on the staff, 106 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback likes him, people seem to like him, and 107 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: it was like it would have been the most shocking 108 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: thing ever if the guy got a second chance. But 109 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: it also this reflects a lot of teams in the NFL. 110 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: When you lose multiple coordinators and your team is good, 111 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: even if you're not Eagles going to the Super Bowl 112 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty two, it's hard to replace those guys, 113 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: and you can easily get into a position where you 114 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: hire the wrong people and you make mistakes, whether you 115 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: think a guy's ready for the job, whether you think 116 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: you hired the right guy, whether there's some influence by 117 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: some of your star players, and then you get halfway 118 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: through the season you're like, we're screwed. This is not 119 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna this is this is a problem. And I think 120 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: with the Eagles is a good example. I think we 121 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: knew kind of fast. I think we knew really quickly 122 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: now for them on the offensive side of the ball. 123 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: As their offense, you know, as the season went on 124 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: felt like it was taking a step back. Shane Steichen 125 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: was having a lot of success with a backup quarterback, 126 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: and defensively they were clearly a disaster. I think there 127 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: was another story, not that this is shocking, but Matt 128 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Patricia won't be back either. So now Nick Sirianni, and 129 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: this is why him and Howie talk on Wednesday, Like 130 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: his whole plan is he just needs two good coordinators 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: and if he does not have two good coordinators, he 132 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: has no shot. And listen, most coaches need a good coordinator, 133 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: like Matt Lafleur would be better off if he had 134 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: a Vic Fangio or a Jim Schwartz on the other side. 135 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: But the offense is his baby, right just with McVeigh 136 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: or Andy Reid. Like did you notice on Sunday in 137 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo who was reading in all the play calls with 138 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: the big thing in front of his face, the big 139 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: menu of place. It was the big guy, the big 140 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: redhead from Los Angeles, Andrew Reid. So it's like when 141 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: you have a head coach who influences one side of 142 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: the ball and calls that you don't find yourself in 143 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: these predicaments where that you feel extra pressure. It's hard 144 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: enough for replacing a coordinator. It's difficult, right, And I 145 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: would imagine that the Eagles they interviewed Ron Rivera. Now 146 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: I'd be stunned if they hired Ron Rivera. Though Jeffrey 147 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: Lurie and his wife and Ron and his wife are 148 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: very close friends. Obviously, Ron, you had worked for Andy 149 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: way back in the day. There are some connections there. 150 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: But I would imagine Martin Dale would be a guy 151 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on offensive coordinator. No clue, Maybe 152 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: it's revealed tomorrow Wednesday, Syria, Isaac, I'm gonna call the place. 153 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring an offensive coordinator to be more of 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: what Frank Reich was to Doug Peterson. Obviously, if that's 155 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: the case, we already know he's going to be under 156 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: the gun heading into the next season. That would that 157 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: would like the fire pretty hot. I mean, that'd be 158 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: pretty intense. I don't necessarily expect that to happen, but 159 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: it's definitely on the table. The Oakland Raiders officially named 160 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: Tom Telesco their general manager, and I guess anytime you 161 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: hire a coach first, especially when it was a situation 162 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: like an interim coach. I didn't really have an I 163 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: just I guess I assumed they would make the interim 164 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: general manager the next GM Champ Kelly. But reading you 165 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: know Vic Tafer has covered the Raiders for a long 166 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: long time, and a couple other guys for the Athletic 167 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: who do a really good job. There have been articles 168 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: for the last week that Mark Davis was not comfortable 169 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: having two guys who have never been in this position 170 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: holding those two roles. And he's had two first time 171 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: GMS from Ziegler and before that Mike Mayock, who made 172 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: some pretty terrible personnel moves and made some moves that 173 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: clearly you knew right away you would like to have back. 174 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: And I wonder if, listen, he was backed into a corner. 175 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: It kind of had an NBA feel to it, where 176 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: it was best. A player said, if you don't hire 177 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce, I'm gonna demand a trade. Don't totally blame 178 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, like if I'm Max, Like, listen, if you 179 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: don't hire the guy I want, I'm fucking over this. 180 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: This sucks. I don't want to play here anymore. Which 181 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: would have been a major problem for the Raiders because one, 182 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: he's just an awesome player and two like what he 183 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: represents and clearly like he's one of the lone positives 184 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: on the Raiders over the last couple of years. But listen, 185 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: Antonio piers, I've said it over and oh, my only 186 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: question is in an offensive league, you get a guy 187 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: that knows nothing about offense and you have no quarterback. 188 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: So the other side of the ball is such a 189 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: major question mark. I never questioned, like could elite Like 190 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: that's something he's been doing probably since he was ten 191 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: years old. That's a natural position for it to put 192 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: him in. Same thing with Drod Mayo, same thing with 193 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: Mike Rabels, same thing with Demiico Ryans. Certain guys got that. 194 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: That's the least of his worries, right, It's just gonna 195 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: be about the other side of the ball. And they're 196 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: interviewing offensive coordinator candidates, which is obviously a huge higher, 197 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: but they still don't have a quarterback. And it's not 198 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: like they're drafted in the top five. How are you 199 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: going to get one to you trade up. That's gonna 200 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: be a huge area to be discussed for Raiders. But 201 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: I understand why they hired Tom Telesco because the other 202 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,599 Speaker 1: guys they were interviewing had never held that job. And 203 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: you can't have Antonio Pierce that was a couple of 204 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: years ago, is basically a recruiting coordinator and an assistant 205 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: coach for the Arizona State Sun Devils to all of 206 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: a sudden being your head coach in the NFL and 207 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: not have an infrastructure around him to help. And I 208 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: think hiring Tom tellsco who's done the job for a decade. 209 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: Now you can nitpick his moves. You can nitpick everyone's moves, 210 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: from Belichick to Howie to John Lynch, John Schnyder. Everyone 211 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: makes bad picks. But I would say, over the course 212 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: of his career, like he's a pro now some of 213 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: the coaches and this is the other thing, like, am 214 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: I putting all the coaches on him? You know there 215 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: were rumors years ago that he wanted day ball, the 216 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: the organization want to Brandon say that. I don't know. 217 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, cowards boys with him. I don't 218 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: know the guy. I've always respected him. I think he's 219 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: a pretty solid general manager. But to be a good 220 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: general manager, and this was one of his downfalls with 221 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers. You're only as good as your head coach. 222 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: So I don't to my knowledge, they don't have a 223 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: working relationship. Clearly they've never been around each other. Maybe 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: they've known each other in passing a little bit from 225 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: a scouting perspective, maybe through Arizona State. But this relationship 226 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: has to work. And if you're Tom, you got lucky 227 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: in the sense that most gms don't get a second 228 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: shot unless your name is Bill Pollian or Ron Wolf. 229 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean usually gms. This is not coaching where a 230 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: lot of coaches get two, sometimes get three spot shots. 231 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: Most gms get one, and especially when you have a 232 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: long period of time like Tom didn't the Chargers. He 233 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: had like three playoff appearances, right, it's not like he 234 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: had well, he won the one Super Bowl, like no, 235 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, So this is a lucky opportunity to get 236 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: a second crack at it. And this is a tough 237 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: job because the next thing I was gonna go into 238 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: is Harbaugh. There are so many rumors out there. I've 239 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: heard this from people in the NFL for three weeks. 240 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks he's going to the Chargers. Now, Harbaugh is 241 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: a great wild card, Right, you never truly know till 242 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: the pen and the paper assigned. He's like, I'm coming, 243 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: Like I've said all along, If you just told me 244 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: there's a report Adam Schefter Harbaugh told the team I'm 245 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: coming back to Michigan. I wouldn't be shocked, right if 246 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: you tell me Harbaugh signed with the Chargers, be like, Okay, 247 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: totally saw that one coming. But he's one of those 248 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 1: guys that go multiple ways. It's pretty clear it's the 249 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Chargers or bust at this point, But like, until you 250 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: tell me he's the Chargers head coach, I that what 251 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: he has at Michigan's pretty special, obviously with his parents 252 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: around him, how good the program is now it's much 253 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: easier to leave because of having won the national championship. 254 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: But a lot of these coaches, like and we'll get 255 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: into Belichick here in a second, it's clear what they're 256 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: asking for, Like this isn't like Jim Harbaugh's the cost 257 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: of Jim Harbaugh is fifteen to eighteen million. It's more 258 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: about like how much we pay in my staff, who's 259 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: the personnel people that I have to answer to, who's 260 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,479 Speaker 1: in charge of the roster, Everything that I've become accustomed 261 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: to doing at Michigan, which is run like an NFL program, 262 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: just like Ohio State, just like Georgia, just like Alabama, 263 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: just like LSU. I want these things to happen here too, 264 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: and I need yeses before I signed the contract about 265 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: how much money I'm gonna make. I'm gonna make a lot. 266 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to football coaching for good coaches in twenty twenty four. 267 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: So I clearly they're working on that and for Jim 268 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: to feel comfortable, but all signs point to him going there. 269 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: And then this gets back to the Raiders of Like, 270 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: so Antonio Pierce would be in a division against Andy Reid, 271 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, and Jim Harbaugh, Like it's pretty difficult. That's 272 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: really really difficult. Like that's pretty hard. Jonathan Gannon showed 273 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: up this year to the NFC West Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, 274 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll, Like it's not an easy division. So 275 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: I just think that if that goes down the pressure 276 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Raider situation, you gotta find a way to get a 277 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: quarterback and figure out offense, because yeah, you'd be like, 278 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: well the Broncos don't have a quarterback. Well they're head 279 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: coach is the play caller, so I feel somewhat confident 280 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: that they can figure it out as they go. You know, 281 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the Raiders are gonna 282 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: be a culture led operation with Antonio Pierce, but he's 283 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: not calling the offensive place. And you're in a division 284 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: with obviously Mahomes, who's gonna go down as like the 285 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: second greatest player of all time, Herbert who if he 286 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: gets Harbaugh, is going to be better. And I would 287 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: imagine the Denver Broncos figure something out at the quarterback position. 288 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Last night, when I was eating dinner, it's surfaced that 289 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: the Titans and Ran Carthin had hired Brian Callahan, who 290 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: is the son of Bill Callahan and who has been 291 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals since I think 292 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: that group got there in twenty nineteen, and obviously has 293 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: been the offensive coordinator during Joe Burrow's time. I didn't 294 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: know much about him beside the name, and I text 295 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: a buddy who who had coached with Brian Callahan, loves him, 296 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: swears by him, and me and this guy have a 297 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: good relationship, Like if a guy sucks, he'll crush. If 298 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: a guy's good, he'll like he has nothing, there's no 299 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: agenda here. He was very very high on him. Now 300 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: you never know. But listen, I understand it. Offensive guy, 301 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: your play caller, a football guy who's been around it 302 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: his entire life, someone that's well respected around the NFL, 303 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: someone who comes from a very successful organization, who's been 304 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: around a big time quarterback. So I don't have some 305 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: like crazy take on this one beside, Yeah, totally understand. 306 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: It makes sense. I mean the type guys I would interview, 307 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: especially if you're the Titans and you're not going to hire, 308 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, some fifteen to twenty million dollar coach. He's 309 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: a guy that maybe strike lightning about maybe you get 310 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: your Zach Taylor or Matt lafor And that's I think 311 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: kind of what they're hoping for here. I finally get 312 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: a guy who I think one issue that they you 313 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: always pivot right once. You If you're ever in a 314 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: relationship with something and she does something that you don't like, 315 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: your next relationship the person usually does the opposite. It's 316 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: no different football coaching. Right when you have a guy 317 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: who's a huge personality complete and when I say asshole, 318 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean that in a good positive football way, but 319 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: can just be a lot usually go the opposite direction. 320 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: The next time I saw it when I was with 321 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers with Harbad to Tom Sula, right, 322 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: no different, Bill Belichick to Jerrod Mayo. Watch Jerrod Mayo's 323 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: press conference and go, oh, no, wonder they like this guy, 324 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: And I would imagine the Titans, and you know, the 325 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: organization was looking just for someone to be a little 326 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: easier on a daily basis. Now here's the problem in 327 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: the sport of football that can get you beat and 328 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: that can gave be fast like sometimes that quote unquote 329 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Dick or the a hole is doing it for a reason. 330 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of needed so that there's gonna be a 331 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on this guy replacing Vrabel. I understand 332 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: they haven't won in the last couple of years, but 333 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs a lot and we're very competitive 334 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: there for a while with Ryan Tannehill. Dan Morgan was 335 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: named the general manager. When I close my eyes and 336 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: think Dan Morgan, I think the University of Miami and 337 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: like the White Ray Lewis. That guy was incredible in college. 338 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like in college he's one of 339 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: the best defensive players I've ever seen just a dominant, 340 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: dominant player. Cool guy, met him a couple of times 341 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: in the scouting world. I've just kind of followed his 342 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: career from a far very very difficult job, very very hard. 343 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you're working for an absolute nut job. You're 344 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: working for a guy that just at any moment could 345 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: fire every single person in his path. So I understand 346 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: if you're Dan Morgan, you played there, you know you're 347 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: part of the city. But it's a risky job to 348 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: take right because it could go poorly. Just because you 349 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: work for some of these crazy owners. They can derail 350 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: your career. They really can. And this feels like situation 351 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: that I would bet against just because until we're proven otherwise, 352 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: I don't see how you don't bet against David Temper. 353 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: You're like, listen, if the guy wants to invest my money, 354 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: he could have every penny. I trust him to do that. 355 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: When it comes to his football operation program, coaching staff, 356 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: front office players. I expect weird stuff to happen all 357 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: the time. So until he proved some normalacy, I would 358 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: not feel very confident. But what's Dan Morgan named GM. 359 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: Maybe he's crazy enough to handle it. A lot of 360 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: reports in Atlanta, And we talked a little bit about 361 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: this yesterday about Belichick and a lot of pushback internally, 362 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: and they're incumbent GM. Some of the people you know 363 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: that are close to Arthur Blank don't want any part 364 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: of him, which makes sense. And we talked about you 365 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: wouldn't if you have a job, you wouldn't want a 366 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: guy to be hired over you that would threaten your job, 367 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: not that he's replacing you, but that he won't need you, 368 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: or he won't listen to you, or your power will 369 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: be kind of irrelevant. So if I were all those 370 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: people and had their roles, I wouldn't want Bill Belichick either, 371 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: because within a year, if Bill just gets us to 372 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: ten and seven and we're in the first round of 373 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs and we win a playoff game, if Bill 374 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: goes to Arthur, listen to Arthur. I played nice this 375 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: first year because I tried to right. I wanted to. 376 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to show you that I still got it. 377 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: But we just want a playoff game. We won the division, 378 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: we won a playoff game. I want Billy, Jimmy and 379 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Rich Gunn. They can all see that coming, So of 380 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: course they're going to want to do because every day 381 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: I look up, Atlanta is interviewing someone else's assistant coach. 382 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: Because if you're those guys, you want to hire one 383 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: of those people. You want to hire Raheem Morris, not 384 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: because he's a bad candidate, but because, like, he doesn't 385 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: threaten your job. Bill us And it's gonna be fascinating 386 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: to see how it all plays out, because everyone that's 387 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: kind of close to the NFL that covers the NFL 388 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: was like, Arthur Blank is gonna want Bill Belichick, and 389 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: it felt like he does. And now it feels like 390 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of pushback to people that he 391 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: clearly likes and respects. I would have guessed originally that 392 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Belichick was a lock to be the head coach, but 393 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: the longer this goes, who knows. I mean, they're the 394 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: Falcons for a reason. Yeah, Last, but not least, some 395 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: coordinator interviews that I find pretty interesting. The Saints, who 396 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: had fired their offensive coordinator, interviewed both Kubiak's son and 397 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Brian Greasie, who are Kyle Shanahan's kind of right hand 398 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: guys on the offensive side of the ball. I think 399 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: at anytime that Zach Robinson, Sean mcvay's right hand guy, Listen, 400 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear. If I ran an NFL 401 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: team and I was a defensive coach and we need 402 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, I would go to the Packers, the 403 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, and the Ramps, and I would want 404 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: to implement what they do offensively, because that is the 405 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: most quarterback friendly. And especially if I got Derek Carr, like, 406 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: we should be able to run aspects of that offense. 407 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: We have good players on offense, we should be able 408 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: to function in that offense. He can play under center, 409 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: play action, get rid of the ball fast. This doesn't 410 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: need to be a complicated offensive structure. So I think 411 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: when you see these Rams and forty nine er guys interviewing, 412 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't see how you're not all over right. Like 413 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: Shane Waldron was named the offensive coordinated with the Bears, 414 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Had coached with the Rams, 415 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: went to Seattle, knows that scheme. So even if I 416 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: get Caleb Williams, everyone's like canny play out of the 417 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: structure of the offense. In that offense, it's relatively basic, right, 418 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: you know, Ideally you run the ball a lot and 419 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of play action layup throws. Now, it's 420 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. Stuff happens, and you're gonna need to make 421 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: plays out of your you know what. But if all 422 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: things go well, it's a very quarterback friendly offense, and 423 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: then from there the guy can kind of build his 424 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: own I don't even you know, reputation as a player, right, 425 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: but ideally, if you play in the construct of that 426 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: offense and we got some good players, which the Bears 427 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: do have, he should be pretty successful. So totally understand that. Higher. Okay, 428 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail back time. You guys know the drill at 429 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram dms wide open. It's just 430 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: my name two f's fire in those dms. Get your 431 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: question answered here on the show. I doubt it was intentional, 432 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: but saying beating Mahomes is a notch on your belt 433 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: that no one can take away from you, mere seconds 434 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: after failing to mention Burrow as one of the guys 435 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: competing with Mahomes. This era is a contradiction too funny 436 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: not to point out. Sometimes I forget about Joseph, partly 437 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: because he's just you know, he got hurt this year 438 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: and he's out of side, out of mind. But Obviously, 439 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow elite player, went healthy and we saw a 440 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: couple of years ago beat him. Last year, went toe 441 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: to toe with him. Obviously, Burrow, you never take away 442 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: beating them at Arrowhead. So I the only reason I 443 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: don't mention him is because he's been so out of 444 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: my mind for three months. But that game he played 445 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: this year against the forty nine ers, I was like, 446 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: the Bengals are coming, and then in two weeks everyone 447 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: got hurt and they were not coming. How common are 448 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: lateral moves for coordinators? I would love to reunite Burrow 449 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: with Joe Brady now that Callahan has gone. But why 450 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: would Brady leave Buffalo? Well, it's not only a lateral move. 451 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Does Zach Taylor allow him to call plays? Right? Does 452 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor want to call plays? So to me, the 453 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: question always is a lateral move as a coordinator or 454 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: a position coach, does your responsibility change? Because an OC 455 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: with McVeigh is not the same as an OC for 456 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce or John Harbaugh. Right, So I think it's 457 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: very dependent on who you work for. So a lateral move, 458 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: like if you're a coach, if you were making a 459 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: million dollars and you're an OC that doesn't call plays. 460 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: I think you would gladly take a You would take 461 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty grand to call plays because you 462 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: get more credit that way. It's why Bienemy went to Washington. 463 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: It's like he didn't get any credit for calling the 464 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: place because any recalled him. Hey, John, why does Dennis 465 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Allen still have a job. He'll start next season as 466 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: a lame duck coach, just like Staley and McDaniels, who 467 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: both flamed out hard. Do the Saints truly believe he 468 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: is the answer? Or is it other factors like lack 469 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: of coaching candidates or pride After trading Sean Payton? Why 470 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: don't think they have pride trading Sean Payton that they 471 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: did not want to lose Sean Payton. Sean Payton quit them. 472 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: They didn't quit Sean Payton. Sean Payton said I'm out, 473 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: I've had enough, and then a year later he's like, 474 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm They're like, uh what, So it's I 475 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: don't fault them in that situation, and they took the 476 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: route of least resistance. They hired his coordinator, who was good, 477 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: but as a head coach. I don't know, man, I 478 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: think that we'll see who Atlanta hires. I mean, Carolina 479 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: is not going to be any good and Tampa just 480 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of free agency questions. Right, So if 481 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: you are the Saints, you go. Atlanta's a wild card 482 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: because if they get Belichick, they'll clearly be better. But 483 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: the Panthers are stink and the Tampa I mean, they're 484 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks a free agent, their star receivers a free agent, 485 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of their other players are old. I think 486 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: you can go, well, I couldn't. I mean, this year, 487 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: we couldn't have been much worse than some of these 488 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: games in the middle of the season, and we were 489 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: still right there at the end of the season. So 490 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: next year, our offense is better, which I think is 491 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: always easy to say as an organization, Let's just hire 492 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: a better offensive coordinator. Okay, well, what if that guy's 493 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: not a better offensive coordinator. Everyone thinks Luke Getzi sucks. 494 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: What if it was justin fields. Now, I bet next 495 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: year they get Caleb Williams and maybe they draft a 496 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver as well at pick nine, and their offense 497 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: is way better and go see it's like, yeah, they 498 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: got a better quarterback and they got another offensive weapon 499 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: to go with DJ Moore, So there are always a 500 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: lot of variables. But I guess that's a long winded 501 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: way of saying a lot of pressure. But I actually think, 502 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: in a weird way, wouldn't shock me if the Saints 503 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: are better next year than they were this year. Love 504 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: the Pod one of my favorite podcasts, Packer Fan Love 505 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: exceeded my and many Packer fans expectations. Looks to be 506 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: the real deal. But I do worry sounds like Green 507 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Bay will be sitting down to extend a huge contract 508 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: to him. My main thing with quarterbacks is consistency, not 509 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: just week to week, but year to year. To be honest, 510 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: all we've seen from Love is seven to eight good games. 511 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: I worry we have I've been seen enough good consistent 512 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: play to pay him amongst the great quarterbacks in the league. 513 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: I think anything in life, if you are going to 514 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: invest a lot of money in, you better feel very, 515 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: very confident. And usually with quarterbacks, right you have several years. 516 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: It was the easiest thing the Chiefs have ever done, 517 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: or the Bills have ever done, was extend those guys. 518 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: The only hesitation I think with the Ravens was is 519 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: this guy gonna stay physically healthy. He had been injured, right, 520 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: But clearly they don't regret doing that. But they had 521 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: several years around these guys. You know, the Jalen Hurts 522 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: thing is a good example. He had one unreal year 523 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: part of being a great player. Like Aaron Rodgers did 524 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: it for fifteen years, Tom Brady and Peyton Manny did 525 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: for twenty. Drew Brees did it for fifteen years, year in, 526 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: year out. How often does a guy get paid and 527 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: then in a year like, ugh, I think they'd want 528 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: that one back. Well it's like, well, yeah, you're going 529 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: off one year, why would you pay him? What would 530 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: be the logic to extend in this offseason? Like Willie 531 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: signed three years, one hundred million dollars. Yeah, I do that, 532 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not giving him a normal quarterback contract off 533 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: eight games. And I'm a believer off what I see, 534 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: but like, what's our number here? Like, I'm not doing 535 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: five years, two hundred million dollars. That would be malpractice, 536 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: even if you are Jordan Love's biggest fan. So I 537 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: hear you part of like it's easy to extend TJ. 538 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: Watt or Nick Bosa or Miles Garrett, like they have 539 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: three or four straight years of kicking ass and taking names. 540 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill when Miami gave him the big contract, he 541 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: was he'd already put together a Hall of Fame career. 542 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: Same thing with Devontae Adams year in and year out. 543 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: Eight games. I haven't read that. I mean, you're being 544 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: a Packer fan. You probably read more Packer content on 545 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: a daily basis. I haven't seen. I don't know if 546 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: Gudikins has talked yet. Maybe that came up in their 547 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: post season press conference. But I would just let this 548 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: play out. I could extend him during the season next year. 549 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: Why do I have to extend him right now? Don't 550 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you do now. The argument if you're 551 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: if you're class half full and you're just betting on 552 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: him to be an awesome player for the next five years, 553 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: it's actually cheaper to do it now than it would 554 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: be if he throws another thirty touchdowns and we win 555 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: eleven games next year. And that's true, you save some money. 556 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: But I do think the risk first reward, Like, is 557 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: it worth paying an extra twenty million dollars or thirty 558 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: million dollars to know and feel good about the contract? 559 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: Then to risk something that backfires. I would wait. I 560 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: would be willing to wait. Don't you don't have enough information? 561 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Just wondering your thoughts on if the Bill should shop 562 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: around Diggs. Between the drama he brings, his decline in 563 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: production and lack of leadership, I think it has run 564 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: its course. The Bill's lack of down the field receivers 565 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: or just receivers that can separate, was painfully obvious in 566 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: the chief scamp. I've always liked Diggs. I've always thought 567 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: he was a big time player, comes through in big spots. 568 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: He can play in the cold. I've always been a 569 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: huge fan. Now I understand you get to a point 570 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: where it's like this just isn't quite good enough, and 571 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: the margins are so thin against the best in the 572 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: business that you know that drop was killer. You know 573 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: to be a great player, And at moments in his 574 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: career I've considered him like a great player. Great players 575 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: make that catch, just flip it on the other side, 576 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: do Kelsey or Hill. Over the course of this, you know, 577 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: I call it a rivalry, But as I talked about 578 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: last week, it's hard to be a true rivalry when 579 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: the Bills always lose the game. But if Kelsey and 580 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: Hill are in that situation a big play in their 581 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: arms down the field, they make it and Diggs didn't. 582 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: Here's the problem, and I haven't done like the Bills 583 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: cap break down. But if the Bills get rid of 584 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: him one, you're not trading him at this point in 585 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: time in his career for a top thirty pick. So 586 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: you get rid of him for a pick. The pressure 587 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: then on you to nail some young receivers in the 588 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: draft is really really high. Dave Davis has been banged up. 589 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: Can he depend on him? Kinkaid looks like a good 590 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: ascending player. Shakir's an excellent slot receiver. That kid's a stud, 591 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: but Cooks a good running back. You do need, you know. 592 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, assuming Joe Burrow comes back, they're loaded, you know, 593 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: Andy will reload. That would make me nervous. That would 594 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: make me nervous to move on. But it's the NFL. 595 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: Maybe you can trade for a guy. I don't know, 596 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: it's a complicated situation. I don't have a great answer 597 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: for you. One little nugget. I'm surprised you haven't used 598 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: given your history with the Eagles. Remember Vince Young touting 599 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: their dream team and they accomplished. Nothing to discredit Party 600 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: for simply meeting expectations with his stacked team is hilarious. 601 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who's discrediting Party though. That's like, weren't 602 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: we all on the same page beside a couple of 603 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: people that just wanted to argue he had a great season. 604 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: He was near the lead in every statistical category at 605 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: the position. He eviscerated teams like the Cowboys in the 606 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: Eagles was awesome. Was awesome. He's a legit Pro Bowl 607 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: player in the NFC. That game that we witnessed the 608 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: other night is not good enough if you're gonna be 609 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl player, especially if your defense is gonna 610 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: be shitty, comparing Vince Young was the backup quarterback, Like 611 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: I here's the thing, Vince Young got a little too 612 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: much credit for saying that he was a backup, So 613 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what that has to do with Perdy. 614 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: To be honestly, as a Detroit Lions fan, I have 615 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: always struggled with the idea that the only way to 616 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: win is with an elite quarterback. I watched Stafford do 617 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: everything he could for years with Calvin Johnson as his 618 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, and he could barely get us 619 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Now we're all doing all this with Goff, 620 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: who everyone says is less talented. That is true, Like 621 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: everyone doesn't say that, it's like a fact Matt Stafford 622 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: is more physically talented than Jared Goff. Sometimes the word 623 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: narrative gets thrown around, like Josh Allen has more gifts 624 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: than brock Party, like the difference between a narrative like 625 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: can Lebron ever win a championship? Like that's that's a narrative. 626 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: And then there are just like some facts Matt Stafford 627 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: way better, arm moves better than Jared Goff. My question 628 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: is this, do you believe it's possible to build a 629 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner with a mid level quarterback who with 630 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: a stacked roster can compensate for him, or is this 631 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: the only way to win? Well? I think the Lions 632 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers are great examples, right the 633 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: other two teams, and really I would throw the Bills 634 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: in there as well. They have highly paid quarterbacks who 635 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: on any given game can beat you by themselves. They 636 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: are three of Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, not 637 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: even talking about their accomplishments. MVPs Pro Bowls, all the money, 638 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: just their physical gifts. Like I've been watching football for 639 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: thirty years. They are as physically gifted as any group 640 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: of guys farv Rogers. You know what makes Peyton Manning 641 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: is kind of unique. He was More's mind because he 642 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: couldn't move in his arm was average, but his accuracy 643 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: and he was just a genius. Tom big time arm 644 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: but also couldn't move, was a genius. But like some 645 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: of the great physical freaks, you know, Cam Newton wasn't 646 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: very accurate. Roethlisberger was pretty special, but like Jared Goff, 647 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, Brock Purty makes under a million dollars. So 648 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: the amount you can use on your cap is a 649 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of money. Right, Let's just make it easy for 650 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: mass sake. If he makes less than a million dollars 651 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: and the cap is two hundred million dollars, he's half 652 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: a percent of your salary cap. Jared Goff relative to 653 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: some of these other quarterbacks, Like Jared Goff's a top 654 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: ten quarterback in the NFL. He he's like twenty four 655 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: million dollars. A lot of people in his spot make 656 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: like forty million dollars. More So, he's relatively cheap too. 657 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: And what did both those guys have? They have really 658 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: good offensive play callers and they have really good skill guys. Right, 659 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: could either one of those guys win with an average 660 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: group around them? Probably not if their defense wasn't good. Right, 661 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: but we've seen Jared Goff multiple places now win when 662 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: with a good team. Now, I would say this Jared 663 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: Goff and Brock Perdy. Jared Goff was the number one 664 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. You know, he's six ' five, 665 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: he's got a good arm, he's accurate, he can push 666 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. Like Jared Goff's pretty talented. 667 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: He's just not a good athlete relative new NFL quarterbacks, 668 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: and he can't you know, he can't ad lib. But 669 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: I think you can win a super Bowl with Jared 670 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Goff for sure. My girlfriend and I are planning on 671 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: stages of starting our own podcasts. It would be about 672 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: what's going on in sports, improving your relationship, family, and 673 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: funny stories. Came up with the idea because every time 674 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: we travel out of state, people gravitate toward us and 675 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: after meeting us comment on how hilarious we should start 676 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: a podcast. Guess must be kind of funny looking for 677 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: your advice. Since you mentioned you have a girlfriend without 678 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: naming names, is there a genre of podcasts you would 679 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: listen to with her? I think the challenges men and 680 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: women typically. I know you have some ladies that listen 681 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: don't like the same content. Yeah, that would be my 682 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: We just listen to different stuff, Like the podcast I 683 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: listen to, football, golf, and finance podcasts are just a 684 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: lot different than the podcast she listens to. So like 685 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: I would say, the podcast we both agree we listen 686 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: to the same type of music. We like the same 687 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: type of music. But I would say when it comes 688 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: to podcasts, content tends to be different, just in general 689 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: of girls I've dated, and these are girls that like sports. 690 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: So but I would say for the most part, based 691 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: on the data we have, like they don't you know 692 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: girls like the ratio of men to women listening to 693 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: my show or just sports shows in general, is heavily 694 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: weighted one way. In sports radio, which is very antiquated 695 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: in terrestrial radio, they don't even factor in women. It's 696 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: just men. So I I don't have great advice. I 697 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: would just try to do like a lifestyle podcast and 698 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: sports come up, they come up, but just talk about 699 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: life stuff, you know, hanging out, boozing, relationship stuff, kids, 700 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: just whatever you're doing in life, partying, relaxing, cooking, just 701 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: what normal. I don't listen to a lot of those 702 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: type shows, though I've heard Maria has and I've heard 703 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: kind of what they talk. They just talk about life. 704 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't have a great advice for 705 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: you there. Sounds like you guys are funny though when 706 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: you travel. I was wondering your thoughts on the in 707 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: house hire of Dan Morgan and the assistant general manager 708 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: to the general manager. How big of a role does 709 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: an assistant GM typically compare to the GM. I think 710 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: it depends. You know, in some organizations they play a 711 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: massive role, like I think Adam Peters with the forty 712 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: nine ers played a very very big role. I think 713 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: if you look at, like, you know, some organizations where 714 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: the GM is just doing a lot, you know, might 715 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: be a little less Like there are things that Howie 716 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: Roseman or probably John Schneider are going to do that 717 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, might not happen at other places, right that 718 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: they're just going to do a lot. So I have 719 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: no clue how much Dan Morgan was or was not 720 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: doing I commented on the podcast part that when you 721 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: work for a nut, you know, and even if the 722 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: nut knows what he's doing, like or Steinbrenner or al 723 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: Ala Davis in his prime, it's hard. It's these are difficult, 724 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: difficult roles. It's hard to work for an owner who's crazy, 725 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: who doesn't know about the sport. It's hard to work 726 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: for an owner that's crazy and does know, Like having 727 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: an owner that's very involved and who's just you know, 728 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: his pisses hot every day coming into work wanting to 729 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: know what the hell is going on in a sport 730 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: that like, you know, for nine months of the year, 731 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: not not every day is crazy. But you know, in 732 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,479 Speaker 1: the stock market, for example, anyone that has any money 733 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: invested every single morning, you can get up Monday through 734 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: Friday and check the markets good or bad. But something's 735 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: happening right In football, like, not every day is crazy. 736 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: Like sometimes you have to be relatively just neutral. And 737 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's hard for David Tipper And it 738 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: definitely gets really hard to stay neutral when you're losing, 739 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: and it gets worse. So maybe Dan Morgan is playing 740 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: background he can just figure it out because he was 741 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: a badass player. I forget his injury, but he had 742 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: an injury that kind of ended his career. Young Big 743 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: Seahawks fan, what have you been hearing about the coaching search. 744 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm really curious why they haven't interviewed Mike McDonald yet. 745 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know John Schneider. I'd be lying 746 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: if I said I had like any inside intel. It 747 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: does kind of feel like they've just gravitated toward dan 748 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: Quinn before this thing even started. Now. I think Mike 749 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: Vrabel would make a lot of sense there. I think 750 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald would make a lot of sense there. I 751 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: think all these young coordinators would be I'd be interviewing 752 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: them all, Mike McDonald, Ben Johnson, I'd be interviewing Raheem 753 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: Morris with the Rams. If I'm not gonna go, you know, 754 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: dan Quinn, they don't really need to interview. But I 755 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: don't know. Your guest is as good as mine. I 756 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: think it's actually a pretty intriguing job. They have some 757 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: young talent, They have a really good GM. They have 758 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: players that are used to winning. Not huge, but I 759 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: mean it's not like they've been losing, so they have 760 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: a positive culture. They have guys that just have been 761 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: in some big games, some big moments. They have bridge 762 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: quarterback on the roster. There's a lot of mixed opinions 763 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: on whether party is actually good. If the forty nine 764 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: ers don't win the Super Bowl this year, do you 765 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: think they really start to have conversations of making a 766 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: change at quarterback. Uh. I would say this party had 767 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: a good season. That happened, perty had a really good 768 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: offseason or I mean good regular season, really good. Now 769 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: the pressure on him in the playoffs, just like for 770 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: any quarterback when your team is a legit super Bowl contender, 771 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: is really really high. So if they were to lose, 772 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: like if they lose the Lions, there's no way you 773 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: could lose the Lions and it not be a disaster. 774 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: You're a big favorite, it's at home. Everyone throughout the 775 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: season thought you should win this conference. Now it's sports, 776 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: it's football. You're not guaranteed to win. Like the Lions 777 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: have good players too. But if you lose that game, yeah, 778 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: it becomes a major conversation. I don't think anything changes 779 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: if they win this game and they lose in the 780 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl to Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. But listen, Kyle 781 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: Shanahan's proven, Jimmy Garoppolo, Seeya Trey Lance, we use a 782 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: bunch of capital. Two years later see you Rockberdy's on 783 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: a scholarship and I'm a fan like he's what I 784 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: witness this year. He's a good player, big fan, longtime 785 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: listener from Australia. You seem to be a big fan 786 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: of Taysom Hill's skill set and also of Justin Field's 787 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: athletic ability. Could there be a future for Fields as 788 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: a Taysom Hill type multi role player and if so, 789 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: how much work would have to be done to catch, 790 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: run etc. Would be better just to person just with 791 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: him as an average to below average quarterback. Interested to 792 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 1: get your opinion. That's a good question. Again, I haven't 793 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: broke down every single game Taysom Hill's played in, but 794 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: when I watch him, he's a pretty natural catcher of 795 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 1: the ball and he can run the ball like part 796 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: of Fields, who is an incredible athlete and great runner 797 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: in the open field. Most of his runs are outside 798 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: the tackles. You know, Taysom Hill can just turn into 799 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: a running back between the tackles and in short yardage. 800 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: So I like Justin Field is a better athlete than 801 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. But he's clearly a better quarterback than Taysom was. 802 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know if he could just develop into 803 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: that version. You know, Taysom Hill is like this hybrid, 804 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of like Mike Alstott meets Kyle Yuschek. He's just 805 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: a very unique player. I don't know if Justin Fields 806 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: could do that, because I don't think most guys could 807 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: do that. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I 808 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: don't know enough. I'd have to text buddies who have 809 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: been around fields, like as a catcher of the football, 810 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: could he play wide receiver because some guys, you know, 811 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: some guys have Now he's a good enough quarterback to 812 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: keep playing, but he's a pretty average quarterback relative to 813 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. You can't throw from within the pocket, can't function. 814 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: It's not being mean, that's just a reality. It's funny 815 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: like whenever you just give your opinion on a player, 816 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: it's like, here, you hate this guy. No, I actually 817 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: kind of liked him. I would have taken a number 818 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: two overall in the draft. Hey, I've love listening to 819 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: all season podcasts. I have a more generalized question related 820 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: to football as a whole for the mailbag. Why is 821 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: the no women's NFL. We have a WNBA women's soccer 822 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: and softball, but only recently flag football started up at 823 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: my high school for women. It feels like with young 824 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: women like Hailey Seinfeld, Simone Biles, and Taylor Swift around 825 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, there would be a decent market of young 826 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: girls who want to play football. Seems like a good 827 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: business proposition for the NFL. Interesting question, Never really thought 828 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: about it. It's you know, in softball, there are think 829 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: about basketball and softball or gymnastics or whatever, lacrosse soccer, 830 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: for sure, they start playing at a very very young age. 831 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: So just like boys basketball or boys you know, baseball, 832 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: or men's soccer, all these people start playing young. Well, 833 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, you couldn't even call it 834 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: this now, but peewee football was called midgets. You were 835 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: in junior midgets. You know. I didn't play. Actually, my 836 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: first time I started playing was in ninth grade. But 837 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: some of my friends played like tackle football in like 838 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: sixth seventh grade. Right, So you start playing football when 839 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: you're young, no different than like being on the seventh 840 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: grade basketball team or playing soccer or little league. Right 841 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: that just there is no starting spot for girls when 842 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: it comes to football, no one ever does it right. 843 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: But all the other sports exist, which they gravitate toward soccer, basketball, swimming. 844 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: Where I came from a lot of you know, the 845 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: swimming program was really big, same with water polo. So 846 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: I think it always starts at the grassroots. Like why 847 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: are we not as good at soccer as all these countries. 848 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: It's not a lack of people, it's not a lack 849 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: of athletes. It's because we are not as dedicated at 850 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: the youth level like we are in football, basketball and baseball. 851 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: It's not a huge part of the ethos as our culture. 852 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: If you go to Spain, or you go to Italy, 853 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: or you go to France or you go to England, 854 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: like they treat that in the youth level, they take 855 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: it very, very seriously. Now I'm not saying some people 856 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: in this country don't take soccer seriously young but as 857 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: a whole, it's very you know, it's spread out because 858 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: we have so many sports that people play, and the 859 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: most popular sport in the country is something that a 860 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: lot of young boys are gonna want to play. Like 861 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: I would say most young girls don't look at playing 862 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: football because there's no women to look up to playing 863 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, like, who do I idolize? 864 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan? Well? What did I do? I want to 865 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 1: shoot baskets? Uh, Brett Farr? What does everyone want to 866 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: be at Recess? The all time quarterback? But I don't know. 867 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't I've never really thought about that, but that 868 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: would be I just don't think it really exists. Do 869 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: you think Anthona Richison is being overshadowed due to C. J. 870 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: Stroud's success? I know he only played in five games. Well, 871 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: I think he just answered your own question. But in 872 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: those games he was electric. Again, he played in five games, 873 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: and then he was injured. We never saw him again, 874 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: So I it's not he's not being overshadowed. There was 875 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: nothing he'd disappeared. He got broke, his shoulder was in 876 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: a sling on the sideline. Gardner Minshew was a starting quarterback. 877 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 1: When you say Indianapolis Colts twenty twenty three, what's everyone 878 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna say, Damn, it's incredible what Shane Steik had did 879 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew. No one's gonna talk about anything Richison, 880 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: So it's not overshadowed. When you when you miss what 881 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: percentage of that seventy five percent of the season. It's 882 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: just it's just part of the deal. Now, if he's 883 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: back next year and good, then no one will say 884 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: a peep. People like this guy's sweet too. Maybe this 885 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: guy could be the next Cam Newton because that's he 886 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 1: was kind of like this hybrid Cam Newton Michael Vick. 887 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 1: He looks sweet, but he got hurt in multiple games. 888 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: Kod Let's say, it's kind of concerning. Anytime you know 889 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: you don't make it through a season and you play 890 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: that was your first season, we just go, is this 891 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: guy gonna be last? It might not even be fair. 892 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean we may look back in ten years he 893 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: never misses another game, But right now, I'd say the 894 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: biggest question mark he's not being overshadowed. It's before we say, hey, 895 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: could he be CJ. Stroud's like, hey, can he just 896 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: start ten straight games? Can he play a full season? 897 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: Especially with the way he plays like CJ. Stroud, We've 898 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: seen that player over and over play in the NFL 899 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 1: pocket quarterback. I mean, he can move a little bit, 900 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: but he's not like running around like part of a 901 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: big part of Anthony Richardson's game is like the incredible 902 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: running because he's an incredible freak athlete. But he also 903 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: took some shots. Actually, if I remember correctly the play 904 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: that he got injured on, he it wasn't some crazy shot. 905 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: He just kind of got like an innocuous tackle, like 906 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: just a normal every day's play on Sunday, and it 907 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: broke his shoulder. So I don't think it's fair to 908 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: say that he got overshadowed. I just think he's we 909 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: questioned if he can stay on the field. The volume