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Speaker 1: Move the Sticks Podcast. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast. That's right, the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I'm your host today, Daniel, Jeremiah and lazy gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in heroes, WO total takeover. The Zeuser

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Speaker 1: is not here, and I know what you're thinking at home.

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Speaker 1: You know, Oh, is he on vacation? No, no, he's

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Speaker 1: been fired and Hansers has gone never to return again.

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Speaker 1: And in addition to my Move the Sticks duties, now look,

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Speaker 1: I fill in and do a little around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is gonna be a good thing

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Speaker 1: for all parties involved. I'm excited to have DJ here

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Speaker 1: with us. Of course I'm here, Mark Sessler Uh is

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Speaker 1: vacations while they could UH this week, so we're still

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Speaker 1: calling it a vacation. Yeah, Heath got I don't want

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Speaker 1: people to go too crazy. Um, but I had this

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Speaker 1: whole deal with DJ, and DJ was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I love I love the work you guys, do you know,

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Speaker 1: bit that I don't like the bocus. It's really just

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Speaker 1: hands this. I don't I don't like it all comes down,

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Speaker 1: and so he said, the minute you get hands this

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Speaker 1: out of the studio, he wanted me to fire him.

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Speaker 1: I thought that's a little much. But what what? At

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Speaker 1: once Dan was on vacation, I said, DJ, can you

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Speaker 1: I think that's telling. This thing has been going on

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Speaker 1: it's just a hurdle that I don't know where we

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Speaker 1: all athletes, I played football for six years and that

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Speaker 1: That classifies us an athlete. It does like that I'd

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Speaker 1: ever played any football. But you know what did you

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Speaker 1: play little tennis? Won the state? How about that? Um so,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah did not know you grew up in Alaska.

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Speaker 1: Data Jeremiah is here, and uh, Dan and West are

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Speaker 1: are not. But we soldier on and I'm excited. This

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Speaker 1: have some news, uh to get to and uh we're

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna do something else, a little different, something

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Speaker 1: start with all the franchise players that their deadlines are

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Speaker 1: up this week July fifteen, Des Bryant, Marius Thomas, justin Houston,

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Speaker 1: he has been put on paid administrative leave. That could

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Speaker 1: um be something they do in advance of of putting

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Speaker 1: him on something that does not pay him and potentially

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Speaker 1: him no longer being in the organization. We'll we'll have

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Speaker 1: to find out. Aaron Kromer been in the news a

430
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Speaker 1: little too much, probably for his own liking, in the

431
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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I mean, and on top of this

432
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Speaker 1: beach chairs incident involving, you know, knocking out a youth.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly that's the allegations, is that allegedly,

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Speaker 1: and he was arrested for it, and they did determine

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Speaker 1: it was credible, you know, the credit credible in the

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Speaker 1: police report that that beach chairs, his beach chairs were

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Speaker 1: being used by a neighbor, and uh, he got angry

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Speaker 1: and got into an altercation with some kids under eight teen.

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Speaker 1: We don't know how young they are, but under eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and he's alleged to have punched one of them. He's

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Speaker 1: not a fan of millennials. We've established that. But also

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Speaker 1: last year, what about when he you know, gotten on

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Speaker 1: too with Jake Cutler as well. You know, it seemed

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Speaker 1: like he was a rising star with the Saints not

445
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Speaker 1: too long ago, and it's been a rough couple of seasons.

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Speaker 1: It does show how quick things change. First year after

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Speaker 1: the his first year in Chicago, when the Bears offense

448
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Speaker 1: was humming, he was the kind of guy you thought, Okay,

449
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Speaker 1: another good year like that, he's going to be the

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Speaker 1: guy getting head coaching inter because he's the offensive coordinator

451
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Speaker 1: for a great offense. Well, this is the challenge too,

452
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Speaker 1: is if you look at it from the Bill's perspective,

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach. For anybody, I would say, um, you

454
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Speaker 1: know you've got the head coach and the two coordinators.

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Speaker 1: After those positions. To me, the offensive line coach by

456
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Speaker 1: far the most important position on your staff, and in

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Speaker 1: some cases you can make a statement that it might

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Speaker 1: even be even more important than a coordinator if you

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Speaker 1: have a big time offensive line coach because they make

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Speaker 1: things go. Now you've got Buffalo specifically with Rex Ryan,

461
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Speaker 1: who always talks about is ground and pound. All he

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Speaker 1: wants to do is run the football, take pressure off

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Speaker 1: their quarterback defense, run the football. Offensive line coach, this

464
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Speaker 1: is a huge, huge issue if he's not there for

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Speaker 1: them going into the regular season. I think they have

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Speaker 1: an assistant offensive line coach who is a hold over

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Speaker 1: from the previous staff. But you know normally those are

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Speaker 1: you typically a younger guy, not quite as experienced, and man,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a huge huge loss for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: If this thing continued, and he's known as one of

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Speaker 1: the better best offensive line coaches in the league. Did

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Speaker 1: a great job in New Orleans. They have some talent

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Speaker 1: there on the offensive line, but certainly some questions, So

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Speaker 1: that's something to watch. Maybe the Bills can hope that,

475
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Speaker 1: like with everything else in society, four weeks from now,

476
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Speaker 1: no one will even remember this happening and they can

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Speaker 1: just slip him right back into the well. Here coming

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Speaker 1: up a couple of quick stories before we finished the

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Speaker 1: news stuff we definitely won't remember. These are These are

480
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Speaker 1: July stories, but I thought they were fun. Justin Houston,

481
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Speaker 1: he said the Chiefs have the best pass rush duo

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Speaker 1: in the league between him and Tom Bali, and they

483
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Speaker 1: did technically combined for the most sex last year, so

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Speaker 1: that they have a case to be made. I just

485
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Speaker 1: wanted to quickly throughout what whether you guys agreed with him,

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Speaker 1: whether you would pick another duo, and who would you pick.

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Speaker 1: I'll start out and give you guys a second to

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Speaker 1: think about it. You're gonna go. I go where in

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Speaker 1: Miller And I think that's easy. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's that easy, because I think you can go. J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt and anyone right, and that's an option, and there's

492
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Speaker 1: some other options around the league. But yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: von Miller. I think he'll he'll get better a year

494
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Speaker 1: removed from his time off. Then you know what what

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Speaker 1: I would always say when these duo disc estutions would

496
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Speaker 1: come up and everybody automatically thinks of one side and

497
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Speaker 1: the opposite side. You also put two guys next to

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Speaker 1: each other. Pretty interesting And to me, look, I know

499
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Speaker 1: and Dominkins is not going to rock up, you know,

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Speaker 1: huge sack numbers, But when you have a duo like him,

501
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Speaker 1: you put him next to Cam Wake and even Olivia Vernon,

502
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Speaker 1: who I think is one of the the most underrated players

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Speaker 1: in the league. That's the duo that I don't think

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Speaker 1: people think about or because it's new and I that's

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Speaker 1: looking right here a number one on my list. I

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Speaker 1: put the Dolphins as well, because we don't know and

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Speaker 1: Wake Sue and Wake because Wake has been I don't

508
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Speaker 1: know if it's because the whole team has been sort

509
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Speaker 1: of blah for so long. Wake has been largely overlooked

510
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Speaker 1: when they talk about these kinds of players. I put

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs number two, though I would although Ali only

512
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Speaker 1: had six sacks last season. So it's really the monstrous

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Speaker 1: production from one guy and Ali and then third maybe Broncos.

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Speaker 1: How about Greg Hardy and uh, your boy Tyrone Crawford

515
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Speaker 1: maybe you know, you know when you go back over

516
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Speaker 1: the stats from last year, the here I'll quiz you

517
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Speaker 1: don't don't like your computers, but player, and every time

518
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Speaker 1: I see it, I'm always like, I forget about him

519
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Speaker 1: every single time. Last year had fourteen and a half sacks?

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Speaker 1: What just any player? Last year player a defensive and

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Speaker 1: last year had fourteen and a half sacks. That just

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Speaker 1: doesn't roll off the tongue when you start Terry Hughes maybe, no,

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Speaker 1: NFC east Cox, No, no, he did not fourteen and

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Speaker 1: a half. Brandon Graham didn't have that. Uh Ryan Kerrigan,

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Speaker 1: no he Karrigan might have had he around there. I

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Speaker 1: want you less. He doesn't get one like Barwin, Like

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Speaker 1: when you start touching, don't think of him that way.

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Speaker 1: So you don't think of him like that. But all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, Okay, Fletcher Cox, who's a stud.

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Speaker 1: Now you got him and Connor Barwin. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: a sneaky good duel. And I maybe go Cox and

532
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Speaker 1: Graham though over Cox and Barwin. But from the Sacks side.

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Speaker 1: By the way, America voted on Total Access, who was

534
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Speaker 1: the biggest snub in the top one hundred? Fletcher Cox

535
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Speaker 1: was one of the options and he came and laughed

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Speaker 1: out of the the the it was Devin mccordy, and

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Speaker 1: I forget who that Eli was one of them. It's

538
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Speaker 1: like Fletcher Cox was the pick it was. It's insane

539
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Speaker 1: that he was not in the top I would you

540
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Speaker 1: put him in the top forty or fifty? He was great?

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Speaker 1: All right? Last one quickly. With a study last week

542
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Speaker 1: looking at a lot of factors. Economics is a big

543
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Speaker 1: part of it, ticket sales, Jerseys determined that the Cowboys

544
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Speaker 1: have the best fans in the league. I don't think

545
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Speaker 1: any one of us would agree with that because their

546
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Speaker 1: home crowd is pretty lousy for the most part. Who

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Speaker 1: who would you pick as the best? You know who?

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Speaker 1: People ask me this whole time. You have to who

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Speaker 1: who are you a fan of? Look, when you work

550
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Speaker 1: for teams, you lose all that I know? But who

551
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Speaker 1: fan grew up a Cowboy fan? Really? I didn't even

552
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Speaker 1: know that. And ironically I get a lot of heat

553
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Speaker 1: from from Cowboy fans for for stuff that I say

554
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Speaker 1: or do. And I'm like I were a daming white

555
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Speaker 1: uffy jersey as a little kid. Okay, you know I mean,

556
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Speaker 1: but in terms of what, what or who has the

557
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Speaker 1: best fans? Look when you grow up in San Diego

558
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Speaker 1: and you go to Charger games, as I think the

559
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: nation is starting to realize now, the stadium usually is

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Speaker 1: full of whoever's coming in there to play and two

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Speaker 1: teams that will three teams. I'll put three teams in

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Speaker 1: terms of road games where you felt their fans, and

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Speaker 1: I think that makes you a good fan if you

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Speaker 1: live in the outside of the city and you want

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Speaker 1: to go see your team play. So the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: always one of the three teams. They would fill up

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Speaker 1: the stadium every time Darrell Johnson got the ball. You

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Speaker 1: heard the whole stadium you almost, I mean, so they

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Speaker 1: would the Steelers and the Packers. So growing up as

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Speaker 1: a kid going to a lot of Charger games, I

571
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Speaker 1: knew when when when the Chargers played those three teams,

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Speaker 1: I was going to see as many of their fans.

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Speaker 1: There's the word Charger facs. I win Packers because it's

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Speaker 1: the tradition. They've been there forether. It's it's passed down

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Speaker 1: from father to son and mother to daughter, and there's

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Speaker 1: no shifting loyalties in Green Bay. That's they're built all

577
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Speaker 1: around the Packers. But also it's a little easier when

578
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Speaker 1: your team has had a run from Brett Farvi into

579
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, where generations of people have never known bad

580
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Speaker 1: quarterback play. Sully is behind the glass waving a Seahawks flag. Sorry, twelves,

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Speaker 1: which they wouldn't even be in the conversation come lately.

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Speaker 1: They're great now. But you know, yeah, because because nobody

583
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Speaker 1: talked about us five years ago. But they've been up

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Speaker 1: in their loud and proud as the twelfth man since

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Speaker 1: the late seventies. Nothing new the acts of good fans.

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Speaker 1: How first of all, how hot is it behind the glass?

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Speaker 1: You are glowing? It's hot, it's eight plus, it's it's

588
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: getting hot. But Sully like a lot of sad. Do

589
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: you feel like you know anything about the NFL since

590
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: before the year two thousand? Yeah? Okay, well you're the

591
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: exception quisom quisom on some Seahawks history. Jim's orn Largent

592
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: who started opposite a largeing on the other side. That's

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Speaker 1: a good question. Thank you. All right, let's move on

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Speaker 1: answer that one I would go I'm gonna go with that.

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Speaker 1: I think the Packers are a good choice because they

596
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Speaker 1: might be the smartest fans. They really know their stuff,

597
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: which is partly because I think they have the best

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Speaker 1: local media. They really get into the football. In terms

599
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: of the local media, it's very competitive and they I

600
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: mean they're they're doing big features and xs and ohs

601
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: on like the backup tackle battle. So it just makes

602
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: a smart fan base. They're close, but I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: it to the Buffalo Bills because they've been through a

604
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: lot and their fan base does not give up at all.

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00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: They're just this passionate. The Browns are there. Just can't

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Speaker 1: pick the Browns because it seems disingenuous. But how about

607
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: your team moves? No, I get it. The Browns are

608
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Speaker 1: in the mix. They'd be in my top five. But

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Speaker 1: I'm giving Buffalo the honor for that because they are

610
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Speaker 1: very loud and they don't even get mad when you

611
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: pick on them a little bit. But they're so appreciative

612
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: if if you say anything nice. Bills fans don't have.

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Speaker 1: Browns fans have many instances of very bad behavior. Now

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Speaker 1: they are reason for it. But Bills fans are generally

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Speaker 1: well behaved and rowdy, which I don't think. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: If you'd be as poorly behaved as you want. It

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00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: should be the Browns, but you can't do that on

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Speaker 1: the shown Bills. Mafia is leg is because that's one

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Speaker 1: of those teams. The Raiders you mentioned them are one.

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Speaker 1: If you say something negative, they're certain fan base is

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Speaker 1: that will stick up for their players. It is a

622
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Speaker 1: blind devotion. What about Jets fans? Raiders would be the

623
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Speaker 1: Jets fans will agree we haven't, will say we suck.

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Speaker 1: You know, they'll say A Bill's fan will will be optimistic.

625
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Speaker 1: Just trying to throw some sort of a bone dance

626
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Speaker 1: way during what a podcast? Keep up at night? Let's

627
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: talking about Wow. Alright, alright, let's do a little housekeeping

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Speaker 1: um that the aforementioned Mr Hansas will appreciate. Is it

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Speaker 1: do you really pronounce his name handsas like rides with

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Speaker 1: Kansas hands? It's handsa Hansas, Yeah, hnz that it got.

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Speaker 1: That became his official name through Damna Scheck, and he's

632
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Speaker 1: now called that way by executives anyone else. They don't

633
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Speaker 1: know his last name is a cow. I think it's

634
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Speaker 1: kind of like I can't remember that. He always those

635
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Speaker 1: little memory games. You know. Kansas a really crappy football

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Speaker 1: program with you know, it's never gonna stop paying Charlie

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Speaker 1: Weiss and major issues handsas. Okay, I got a little

638
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Speaker 1: housekeeping last last show, Mark, you weren't here for it.

639
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Speaker 1: But we drafted teams. Uh. We just decided to take

640
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Speaker 1: eight players per team, just build the most talent you

641
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: could have on one team. It's kind of coming off

642
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: the end of the Top one series, and we got

643
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Speaker 1: the resident scout in the building. For those who don't know,

644
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: DJ worked for the Eagles, for the Ravens, for the Browns.

645
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's legit worked for these teams as

646
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: a scout, and so I thought he'd look at our

647
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: three teams that we built and quickly you can just

648
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: pick which team you think is the best. I'm not

649
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna go through them all here. If you listen to

650
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: the show, Team Greg was led by J. J. Watt,

651
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, Tom Brady, Darrelle Revis. Yeah, some some good

652
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: guys at the end. Their team Dan led by Aaron Rodgers,

653
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, Dez Sherman, Earl Thomas a few more. There

654
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: he is studying this. He's looking very angrily at Dan's

655
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: head shot. So well, Dan's got Jamal Charles and Adrian Peterson. Yeah,

656
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: we're all kind of Julio Jones just trying to build,

657
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: build the most talented team and then team West. Uh.

658
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: He starts off with Gronk, Andrew Lock Beckham Justin Houston

659
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: goes on from there. He wrapped up his picks with

660
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Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas. I just I just had DJ. Here's all true. Yeah,

661
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: that's it, just three teams. I'll let you look at

662
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: it a little more. Forgot to bring up the print outs.

663
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: But this is working. Yeah, no, this is good. Um, look,

664
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Speaker 1: these are obviously three very talented teams. I think wes

665
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Um definitely Excuwed a little bit younger, a building a

666
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: team for the future, which I like him, A big,

667
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: big fan of his roster. I think, uh, look, you

668
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: you got a nice team. Greg. When you look at

669
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Speaker 1: when you look at when you look at J. J. Watt,

670
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: you got the most dominant defensive player. You've got Calvin Johnson,

671
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Speaker 1: You've got Levian Bell, who I love, Um, I love

672
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but this pains me. Whoa I always go

673
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks and and Team Dan with Aaron Rodgers

674
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: throwing the ball at des Bryant Julio Jones. I don't

675
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: know who drafted this team for him, but whoever did

676
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: it did a good job. As the sitting GM of

677
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Dan's team. Did you help to? Dan's team scores about

678
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: seventy points a game? And then it's like, oh, you

679
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: get to pick the next ten best players in the

680
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: NFL and you can build a pretty good defense out

681
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: of that. I thought I was giving you a lay

682
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: up here to just do some more hands is slamming.

683
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: It just shows what kind of integrity this man has.

684
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: He puts a outside his personal feelings. He goes Team Dan.

685
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: And you know what you just what you were just

686
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: saying is that the around the NFL podcast listeners out

687
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: there they might as well be NFL scouts because the

688
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: voting did come in and you guys did choose Teaman

689
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: solidly over over West was second, and uh my team,

690
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: uh really do so well came in third. Whatever, So

691
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Speaker 1: congrats Dan, you know it's a big week. He's also

692
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: got his pain rankings out. While we're talking, uh hands

693
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Speaker 1: as he is ranking, and we're gonna talk about it

694
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Speaker 1: a little more next week when he comes back. He's

695
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: ranking which teams have experienced the most pain over the

696
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Speaker 1: course of their history. Now number seven and number six

697
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: says we taped this. They're the only ones up so far.

698
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: The Chiefs were seven, sneaky, a lot of pain there,

699
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: haven't done anything in about forty years, have lost seven

700
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: straight playoff games, which is outrageous. And number six and

701
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: I think that they should be higher up on the list,

702
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. That's pretty funny. Uh the charge you

703
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't want to I don't

704
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Speaker 1: want to spoil anything about the rest of the list,

705
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Speaker 1: but I've got I was gonna say, I was gonna guess,

706
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Speaker 1: and you you let a little bit of the catut

707
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Speaker 1: of the back there. Growing up in San Diego, I've

708
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: always brought up the point that it bothers me that

709
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: we you know, Cleveland's in the world. It's like, the oh,

710
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: the woe is me, the poor Cleveland. They have one

711
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: of thing since sixty four and I'm like, I grew

712
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: up in San Diego. We we really we've had the

713
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Speaker 1: San Diego soccers who are the best indoor soccer team

714
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: you will ever see. Sure, we had the San Diego

715
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: goals minor league hockey come get some you don't want

716
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: to see them in the postseason. But outside of that,

717
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: Padres have never won anything. Chargers have to go back

718
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: to the a f L days. Um, so we we

719
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: haven't had any Clippers leave. You know, nobody seems to

720
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: care about that we had the Clippers, they leave. We

721
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: haven't won anything in a major sport. So I just

722
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: think it's because it's San Diego and it's great weather

723
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: and everybody loves it out there that you know, and

724
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: we have other interests and do what people. Yeah, I

725
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: think that's what it comes down there. They don't have

726
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: a huge man base ever, but the ones that they

727
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: have are die hard. And I agree with you, and

728
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give away anything on the about the

729
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: rest of the list, but I think the Chargers fan

730
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: if you look at the Marty Schottenheimer era, and I

731
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: was with Baltimore at that time and we were kind

732
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: of we were we were thirteen and three one year

733
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: they were thirteen and three, or maybe they were fourteen

734
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: and two. Even um, we were kind of you know,

735
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of them, and we watched a

736
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: lot of them on tape. They were the most talented

737
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: team in the NFL for probably a three year stretch

738
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: and have nothing to show for it. And you know,

739
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: it's been a one Super Bowl and it was a disaster.

740
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: So that that's it for the news. Thank you also

741
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Speaker 1: for picking which which one of our teams drafted the best.

742
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: DJ goes with Team hands us. And now it's time

743
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: for the big part of the show. Something uh like

744
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna call players at the crossroads. It's more of

745
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: the full versions. I like this holds up really well.

746
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: Listen to a few songs this morning inspired by this.

747
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I almost feel like they were thought of almost like

748
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Speaker 1: a novelty act at the time or they you know,

749
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: they were kind of left of center, and now you

750
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: listen to them all this time later, it's great. Um.

751
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: I hold up. One thing about those like songs like

752
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: that is I'm quite certain that I sang the wrong lyrics.

753
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh certainly, well, yeah, this is before you wit hold on,

754
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: hold on? Was this the right progress? And I'm gonna

755
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: miss everybody? Is he really saying I'm gonna miss everybody?

756
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: Or I don't know if he's even saying that. But

757
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: that's the one. I'm pretty sure it's miss everybody. I

758
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: think you got that right. But it visit very fast though,

759
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: and no one was scarier than the guy in the

760
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: cross I don't know if you haven't remember the video

761
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: for a Crossroads, there's kind of a guy going around

762
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: the video essentially telling you, I think your life is

763
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: over that. You know, it's kind of what it's about.

764
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Scary video. Good good tea into this a segment here. Yeah,

765
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: so I'll talk over these are basically make or break players.

766
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Your guys. They're at a certain point in their career.

767
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna go one way or they're gonna go the other,

768
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: and we'll just kind of throw them out there and

769
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: we'll discuss them going into the year. And I'm gonna

770
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: start in Minnesota with two guys who are coming from

771
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: different directions but I think are both at the crossroads,

772
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: Couardorrell Patterson and Mike Wallace now their teammates. Patterson number

773
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: one rank guy on our making the leap list last

774
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: year did not go so well. We weren't the only

775
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: ones who really loved him. Took way too early in

776
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: fantasy drafts. Now he's just fighting for playing time. And

777
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: then Mike Wallace, much different situation, was one of the

778
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: highest paid wide receivers in the league. Now he's getting

779
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: traded in the middle of his career. Is this just

780
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: what Mike Wallas is gonna be? Is he gonna kind

781
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: of have that steep decline, be a Santonio Holmes type

782
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: or can he have a good second career act. Let's

783
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: let's start with Mark either either one you want to

784
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: start with. I like to set up because does you're

785
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: in NORV Turner's offense where you NORV Turner had to

786
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: go through last season without a Mike Wallace type deep threat.

787
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson emerged down the stretch as a good receiver

788
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: for them. You've got Corderyl, You've got Adrian Peterson back,

789
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: It's Teddy Bridgewater in year two. I don't think it's

790
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: a bad situation. X receivers have thrived in Norv's offense many,

791
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: many times, so we'll see. Look. I I I am

792
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: a big Ryan Tannehill supporter. I love I love what

793
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: he's you know, his his progress. You can track how

794
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: he's gotten better each and every year. The one glaring

795
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: weakness in his game is throwing the deep ball, and

796
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: that's the one thing Mike Wallace does best, and Teddy

797
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Bridgewater throws a beautiful deep ball. I think this could

798
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: actually be a nice comeback year from Mike Wallace in this.

799
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a good fit. You've got a running game.

800
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to see a lot of single

801
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: high safety. He can get on top of coverage, and

802
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have somebody who can get the

803
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: ball out there to him. I think with Corderyl, the

804
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: question is with Charles Johnson and Wallace and Adrian Peterson,

805
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: and you've got a good tight end there as well.

806
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: What happens to Corderyl because he was meant to the

807
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: featured guy? Is that gonna happen this? So you gotta

808
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: get Charles Johnson off the field. If you're Cordarrell Patterson,

809
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: you need to not be the number three slash four gadget.

810
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Let's set him up, but he isn't having That's what

811
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up being. Is the funny that the

812
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: ironic the ironic thing the big debate that year Cordirell

813
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: Patterson versus Tavon Austin and the whole knock on Tavon

814
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: Austin was that he's a gadget guy and they haven't

815
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: figured out, you know, Schottenheimer's gone. Now we'll see what

816
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: they can do when the coordinator everything figure out what

817
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: to do with him. But and and wait, it looks

818
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: now they're both gadget guys. That's exactly what. So you

819
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: don't think that I'll change. I made a huge list

820
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: and we're gonna write this up eventually. Tavon Austen wasn't

821
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: a guy that I was even gonna mention on the

822
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: show here because we only have so many, so much time.

823
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: But but you brought him up. Do you I still

824
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: think I still think there's I still think you can

825
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: use him. I don't know. I think it was against

826
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: the Colts, maybe his rookie year. We had a long,

827
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: a long kick return. He had a long reception in

828
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: that game. And look, the speed's undeniable. He is very

829
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: very explosive. You go Patterson though when he moves, he

830
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: moves unlike most people. It is just like that UM

831
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: when he moves, I mean kind of keep with our

832
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: hip hop them. But the UM just getting these guys

833
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: the ball in space. And I think Tavon is a much.

834
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: He was more coming out, more polished as a route runner.

835
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: I think he catched the ball a little bit more

836
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: naturally than Patterson. Patterson obviously bigger and strong in the

837
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: completely wrong offense for what he is, no question Cordarrell Patterson,

838
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: and and this is wildly unfair, but he had one

839
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: of the most He had the feeling in the green room,

840
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: and he was at the draft more than anyone I

841
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: can remember recently of like, I can't believe I'm here.

842
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe this went so well, Like, I don't

843
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: know it was. I think it was all of a

844
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: surprise to Cordarrell Patterson that he ended up being this

845
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: top of a prospect coming into the league because he

846
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: was so raw, they took a chance on him. Hasn't

847
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: worked out to it. It looks like we're kind of

848
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: split there. Maybe we see Wallace improving. I like that

849
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: you have faith in Teddy's deep box. People got on

850
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: him a little bit, like Teddy can throw the deep

851
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: plus is gonna be indoors? Right? Yeah? Uh no, not

852
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: yet are they They're still out there. We have one

853
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: more year at the Universe, another year. Yeah, I thought

854
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: they were indoors outdoor Minnesota. Yeah, it was fun, it's

855
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: not if you're playing. All right, let's talk about another quarterback,

856
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: not Teddy Bridgewater, a guy who even last year. Can

857
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: we move in a faster clip because I'm not sure

858
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Sean's gonna hold up for this whole episode. Okay, he's

859
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: sweating like crazy back there. Yeah, that sweating from every

860
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: former body, but pushing through. I mean, here's the guy

861
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: definitely at the crossroads. R G three. Now I actually happened.

862
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: I randomly watched his game against Minnesota, and he had

863
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: a couple of nice deep balls and it did remind

864
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: you even last year he had some moments where he

865
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: shows off that talent. Do do we think he's at

866
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: the crossroads for sure in Washington? Do we think there's

867
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: a chance he can at least have a year where okay,

868
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: maybe he's not a superstar, but he gives you that

869
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: solid mid level he's not the guy that hurts you,

870
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: and he'll win a few games for you type of season.

871
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I'd don't have confidence more than anything else, just because

872
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: the relationship that exists between the quarterback and the head coach,

873
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: which I think you can go back in years past

874
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: and maybe in yesteryear you could get away with that.

875
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I just think it's so complicated now. The defenses are

876
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: so good. If you're not on the same wavelength this

877
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: year as your coach, that's gonna be difficult. I think

878
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: they went out of their way to try to tamper

879
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: down that drama and make it sound like we're all

880
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: on we're all in support of r G three. This

881
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: is a guy that had twenty touchdowns and five picks

882
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: as a rookie. He said, twenty and eighteen since, I

883
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: mean he's crumbled and the in in the in that

884
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: wasn't an offense authored around his skills that absolutely went.

885
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: It caught at the right time at the NFL where

886
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: r GT was used correctly. It was healthy too. He

887
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: was healthy and he hasn't been since. And that's part

888
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, these these quarterbacks to be putting

889
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: the top five or guys to play fifteen sixteen games

890
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: every season? Eight can he do that? But be Gruden?

891
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: The way Gruden spoke about him last season was absolutely toxic.

892
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: Some talent there, though. It wouldn't stun me if he

893
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: came back and had a twenty touchdown eleven interception decent

894
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: season where he gets you thinking, okay, he can douce

895
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: he can I'll say, I'll say, best case scenario, you're

896
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: looking at a eighteen touchdown four interception type years. I mean,

897
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: his numbers last year, I think we're even worse than

898
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: he played, although there were a few games where he

899
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: looked like he just wasn't ready for the NFL, But

900
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: his numbers in the end, it was four touchdowns, six interceptions,

901
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: and nine fumbles. I mean, that's a disastrous season in

902
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and four team where everything is helping the quarterback.

903
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: The biggest number of all zero confidence and one question,

904
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: zero confidence. And if he if he gets hurt to

905
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: end the year. I believe his rookie his rookie option

906
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: contracts is guaranteed for the next year. If he's If

907
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: he's stinking up the joint in week ten and Growden

908
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: has benched from four times already, do you just get

909
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: him out of there. No, it's not guaranteed, so they

910
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: can get rid of him, and they will. I mean,

911
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if they would trade him in the

912
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: middle of the season, but if he gets hurt, it

913
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: is yes, if he gets If he got hurt, then

914
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: then he would be guaranteed that that's right, just for

915
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: Corman's I mean, they're taking a risk by by giving

916
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: him that this year. Um, let's move to another guy

917
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: who has been hurt quite a bit, Brian Cushing. Remember

918
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 1: when Brian Cushing was a star. I'm a Brian Cushing fan.

919
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: When he's on the fields, he's at the well, he's

920
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: at the he's an urgent care. I mean, he just

921
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: needs to get healthy. If he's healthy on the field,

922
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: he's outstanding. Yeah, he came off he had multiple they

923
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: weren't major, but some smaller surgeries. This offseason two, he

924
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: says he's fully healthy right now. Oh, Bill O'Brien said

925
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: he's been running around in a way that he hadn't

926
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: seen since he joined the team. So there's hope. But

927
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: again it's guys like Sean Lee Cushing. Can they last

928
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: the full season? Cushing at another level though. To me, Cushing,

929
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: I brought him up just because I wanted people to remember, Hey,

930
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: here's a guy who everyone thought was a foundation piece,

931
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be a future stars one of the best

932
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: young defensive players in the league, and now he's an afterthought.

933
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: And if you watched them last year, he could not

934
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: move around at all. I think this is gonna be

935
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: his last year in Houston unless he shows that he's

936
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: a totally different, healthy type of player. I mean, he

937
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: he's had all sorts. He did say he was not

938
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: healthy at all last year, but well you could say

939
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: he couldn't move. I mean, he didn't look like he

940
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: was ready to play in the NFL. So he's definitely

941
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: in a maker break season. Other couple of guys in

942
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland in a maker break season, your boy Justin Gilbert

943
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: and then Barkivas Mingo. It's kind of maybe it's like

944
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: the damning with fame, praise or low expectation, but no

945
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: one seems to care that bar Kivas Mingo hasn't done anything,

946
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: isn't really doing anything for them. Well, two sacks last

947
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: year when he had more sack, more snaps than he

948
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: did as a rookie when he had five sacks, so

949
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: his production went down. I think it's interesting to look

950
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: at what the way that that team is being built

951
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: on defense. They drafted a guy, Nate Orchard that they

952
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: have talked up NonStop. They love him. Paul Krueger finally

953
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: came through for them. Our Monty Bryant's being moved outside linebacker,

954
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: and I liked him when he was on the defensive

955
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: end position last season. So it's basically, Mingo, put up

956
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: or shut up, we don't need you. The whole thing

957
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: is not being sent around you. And with Gilbert, same thing.

958
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: They just drafted and brought in more and more cornerbacks.

959
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: I isn't a big Mingo fan coming out, However, I

960
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: was a big Gilbert fan. I would disagree with the

961
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: crossroads for Gilbert. You're two is a corner. I think

962
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: you look at Kraim Jackson, guys like that, there's a

963
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of corners we've seen that's that transition

964
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: from college to the NFL, with what they're asked to

965
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: do and all all that they have to know, it

966
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: takes some time. Xavier Rhodes is another one who I

967
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: think is gonna is gonna be a star at corner

968
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: who did not immediately have success. So I think there's

969
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: some growing pains there. And obviously Gilbert's had some issues

970
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: off the field that he's readily admitted to. So I

971
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: still think I'm not I'm not giving up on him,

972
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: and I don't even think if this year he doesn't

973
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, blow it up. That got to make some

974
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: progress at least be a solid nickelback where you're on

975
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: the field and you're not hurting your team. Well, this

976
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: is what this is what I didn't understand. And look,

977
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: I think that guy can be a Pro Bowl kickoff returner.

978
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: And not only will that help your special teams getting

979
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: him out there with the ability he had. He had

980
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of touchdowns in college. But it's gonna just

981
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: give him some confidence and that's gonna carry over when

982
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: he gets on the defensive side of the ball. I know,

983
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know I've heard. Okay, there

984
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: were some learning issues this side or the other return middle, return, right, return, left.

985
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: He can figure that out. And his issues weren't athletic.

986
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he went he had a couple of plays

987
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: against the Colts, saw what he can do. He just

988
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: needs to be refined. But you've got something to work with.

989
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Their mingo, on the other hand, had played with zero

990
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: power in college, and I don't know that that's something

991
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: you ever gonna pay And speed and his pass rush

992
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: moves they don't stand out to make up for the

993
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: fact that he's not strong. Just a few more players

994
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: left and will wrap it up. Doug Martin is a

995
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: guy I would have thought would be a third stringer

996
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: battling for a roster spot right now, just based on

997
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: what's happened to him the last couple of years. But

998
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: he's got a chance here. He is the starting running

999
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: back in Tampa. I'm not in love with Charles Sims

1000
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: in particular. He's coming off an okay rookie year. It

1001
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: sounds like the coaching staff is maybe mixed there. Just

1002
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: the fact that Martin that they're giving him such a chance.

1003
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: He's at the crossroads. He's got a chance, you had

1004
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: a chance to recapture what he had as a rookie.

1005
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the ball a lot, Sir Connor. They're

1006
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball up. So I think you'll help

1007
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: you help you out in the passing game. I still

1008
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: think Charles Sims in the passing game can do some

1009
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I don't think you know the offensive

1010
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: line where it is right now. I know they like

1011
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith, young left tackle. They have some young pieces

1012
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: in place there, but overall, that five upfront causes concern

1013
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: for me and uh, I don't think they're gonna be

1014
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: a very effective running football team, no matter who's back.

1015
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean, his job was basically saved by Dirt Cotter

1016
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: coming in saying I like Doug Martin, but it was

1017
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: last year that Sims. You remember, you had in multiple

1018
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: reports that they just love Sims, especially catching the ball.

1019
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: I thought that they could do a lot of things

1020
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: with him out of the backfield. So we'll see what

1021
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: they do. Like Martin, Bruce Irvin came into the league

1022
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: really strong, and now he's at the point where you

1023
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: don't know if it's his last season in Seattle. Some

1024
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: talk maybe he'll head to Atlanta. I think he's turned out.

1025
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: He's a fine he's a fine rotational player. He hasn't

1026
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: really ever elevated from where he was as a rookie

1027
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: to me, the rotational player in college, I mean, this

1028
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: is kind of who he was. And then do you

1029
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: think this is just who he is? This is Bruce

1030
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: Ever for the rest, he's not gonna bust that at

1031
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: any point. I don't think. I think he's somebody that

1032
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, he's super athletic and explosive, and he's not

1033
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: somebody that's going to be a down end, down out

1034
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: dominant football player. But you're gonna see flashes from him.

1035
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna have games where he has two sacks, and

1036
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna see three or four games where he doesn't

1037
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: give you anything. I just think that's who he is.

1038
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: It seems like pass rushers, if you're showing any life

1039
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: at all, you're gonna find work in the NFL until

1040
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: you're you're truly out of town. Last last couple of guys.

1041
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher, do he do you think there's any chance

1042
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: just as a scout that he could improve upon what

1043
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: he should? Former number one pick. He doesn't get talked

1044
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: about at all. That draft was so bad right now,

1045
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: but he still wasn't not pick. No, I know he was,

1046
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: but it's one of those deals where you go back

1047
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: and you look at it and say, okay, he was

1048
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: a top pick well, and then you look at everybody

1049
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: who else would have picked up there? So you know,

1050
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: I think Keenan Allen was in that draft ended up

1051
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: being one of the better players and he went and

1052
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: what the fourth round, third or fourth round sent the

1053
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: whole pre draft process getting slashed by people too, you know,

1054
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: So no, look at I was. You know, Eric Fisher,

1055
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: he some technical stuff. I think that there is hope

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Speaker 1: that he can improve some stuff with his hands. I

1057
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: think he has gotten a little bit better there. You

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00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: A offensive lineman is another position. I think you give

1059
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: those guys three or four years and you can see

1060
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Speaker 1: some guys come on and play well. Does seem I

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Speaker 1: have given up on him. I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's ever going to be a, you know, an

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Speaker 1: elite left tackle, but I think he can be like

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Speaker 1: the premier tackles though kind of from day one. They

1065
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Speaker 1: are who they are. Maybe there are numbers that they

1066
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Speaker 1: grow into premier the premier guys, that's what he was

1067
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Speaker 1: drafted to be. But it was, like you're saying, it

1068
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Speaker 1: was not a great crop of players. I think guys

1069
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: like you know, Joe Staley has has gotten better throughout

1070
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Speaker 1: his career and made himself into one of the best tackles.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he walked on campus and and was one,

1072
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Speaker 1: but a guy like the guy with you on Total

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Speaker 1: Access everyone, uh should check out this week Taylor, the one.

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Speaker 1: I mean you put him in right away. He was

1075
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Speaker 1: a solid starter really from from the get go. I know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go head off to do Total Access. You

1077
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Speaker 1: have your podcast. Everyone should check out Move the Sticks.

1078
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Speaker 1: You can check out our players at the crossroads. We're

1079
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: gonna write this up. At some point we'll talk a

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Speaker 1: little Colin Kaepernick. I mean, he's he's one can I

1081
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: can give you saith and would like to do real

1082
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: quick and just you're the host Dan. As long as

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Speaker 1: Dan is not listening, which I'm he probably won't listen.

1084
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: It's not involved with he's very, very self absorbed. But um,

1085
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell him. I'm gonna tell him as kind

1086
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: of a deal here. Okay, I sat in your chair

1087
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Speaker 1: and did around the NFL, So I'm gonna have him

1088
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: do a Move the Sticks episode, okay, And I'm gonna

1089
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: tell him I need an hour worth of content. I'll

1090
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Speaker 1: never air it. I will never air it, but I

1091
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: want him to sit here and have to do a

1092
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Speaker 1: whole show. Is that cool? Well would have moved the

1093
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Speaker 1: Sticks show at Dan? Really be? Would just be? I

1094
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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't care. I just like the idea

1095
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Speaker 1: that he have to sit in this inferno hot box

1096
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: that we have in here where it's ninety degrees, watch

1097
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: Sean sweat his butt off behind the glass and do

1098
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: an hour worth of content that doesn't see the light

1099
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Speaker 1: of day, that would be the Dan has gotten the

1100
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Speaker 1: last laugh, because you're in here for another hour doing

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00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: your show next and it's still at this hot it's

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Speaker 1: remaining this. I'm hoping I had to total access. I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping this evening that it will be a little bit

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Speaker 1: cool off. I'm gonna have rhet Um Lewis and I

1105
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Speaker 1: show today on the Movie six podcast, and he's he's

1106
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Speaker 1: just got back from the Manning Passing Academy. So for

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Speaker 1: those that wonder what goes on at the Manning Passing

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Speaker 1: Academy other than maybe the Johnny Man's l story last year,

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Speaker 1: which I might get on that. Um Brett has all

1110
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Speaker 1: the all the details on Thibodeau was a fun place

1111
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: if you can't have fun, and I've been there, I've

1112
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Speaker 1: done that the camp it's fun, fun experience, all right.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it. Oh, I gotta time to drop for

1114
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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Daniel Jeremine of course Sully and Brandon

1115
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Speaker 1: McGinnis behind the glass. Thank you for listening. Once again,

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Speaker 1: we love you.