WEBVTT - Jakeem Grant

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do it. That's getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard am about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're about to let you know. It's all damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost WiFi. Okay, I don't have WiFi for like

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<v Speaker 1>two days. Why you want to really know? A lot? You?

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<v Speaker 1>A great line is um, because I didn't pay my bill.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the line the devil made me do it. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you what happened to us. So the family,

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<v Speaker 1>So the family, so, uh, you know, first of all problems.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a whale and we try to utilize

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<v Speaker 1>the well too. Um one. I know this isn't surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't like folks telling me I can't water

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<v Speaker 1>my grass. So we have a whale and in the

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<v Speaker 1>well that my irrigation is on the well? Now are

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<v Speaker 1>well does it get p s size pressure? It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get enough pressure to to to be able to run

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing because of we're not getting as much

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<v Speaker 1>of gallon per minute, so we only get like eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen or fifteen gallons permitted the threshold is like eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty. You're fudging it, and so it will kind

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<v Speaker 1>of killer reserves. And so it just makes it to

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<v Speaker 1>where it would utilize the well. But we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I used it to like do other stuff around the

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<v Speaker 1>house and stuff just I just like to have my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Wants an off grade house. But I um real, lie quick,

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<v Speaker 1>lie and just a lie over. I can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so, so that's my goal to. That's my goal to.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't afford it. So and and plus I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>farming that I'm not farming right so especially I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know any vets that will help me deliver a baby

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<v Speaker 1>for a cow or a calf, um just all of

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<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff. I don't want to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>all that little house on the It weren't there any

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<v Speaker 1>black people in the house on the plur know that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a trick question and answers, no, there wasn't. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And um so I got my landscaper too, uh, change

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<v Speaker 1>the nozzles on my sprinklers too. For them to be smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>so it will we can accommodate the well. So on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet, and I'm like, dang, internet went out? Ding,

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<v Speaker 1>don't hey did the internet go out? Yes, your neighbor,

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<v Speaker 1>the landscaper, he hit the line because it's buried here

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina. You bury um utilities hit the line

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<v Speaker 1>digging up the sprinkler head. So lost the internet. No

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. Mistakes happen. I don't have a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we call are in that provider. Now I have

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<v Speaker 1>two lines, have a business line for NFL network and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a personal line. My man, did it right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna do it, do it right. He could

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<v Speaker 1>everything everything, I mean, alarms going all, no line left behind.

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<v Speaker 1>He got him hall. No big deal, he's apologetic. Mistakes happen. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get our our internet provider to come in. Bang.

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<v Speaker 1>They they later line. So now the kids are hot

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<v Speaker 1>because we got the PlayStation five and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>only one I could muster up and muscle. And that

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<v Speaker 1>one is totally downloadable. No hard copy, no no hard

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<v Speaker 1>a hard drug. So you could play online. But we

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got no online. Next, you don't have internet. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. Oh, man kids is looking doocy Damn. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to slap me, right, So we go pool. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go hang out. So on our way we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of going through the neighborhood. Were on

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<v Speaker 1>a golf cart, just just getting outside, you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>old school stuff. Oh school with a golf cart. Damn

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<v Speaker 1>your legs. Ain't that schooling about a golf riding around

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<v Speaker 1>the neighbor in a golf cart. Sorry, you see you

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<v Speaker 1>threw me off. I was I stated story mode, like

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<v Speaker 1>the story mode, but you was in the holding modes.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't riding bikes. Were riding bikes old school. We're

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<v Speaker 1>riding bikes right uh. And so as we're riding a

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<v Speaker 1>bike slash riding a golf cart, landscapers go past us.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to motor grass. Now they read they run

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<v Speaker 1>the line. They're gonna burry line in seven ten days.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were hanging out and then we go to pool.

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<v Speaker 1>We're playing, and then we come back in the house

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<v Speaker 1>and the internet was working and that's not working now.

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<v Speaker 1>When they laid the lines, they also put red flags. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now this may come across a certain way, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just said they laid flags that one roh that's Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>for red bilingual. Mm hmm. So some roles come by.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what I discover they in the lawnmower right anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut the new line. He drove over the line, scoundrel,

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<v Speaker 1>and then try to jerry rig it with black electrical tape.

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<v Speaker 1>As we that's the that's the that's that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we had to call the same people we

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<v Speaker 1>called to get the line. They have laid two lines

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<v Speaker 1>now and he cut the other line, the business line

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<v Speaker 1>that they laid. Mm hmmm. So now this week I

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<v Speaker 1>do not want them to motograph because it has not

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<v Speaker 1>been buried. We don't need oceananigans anymore. Bro do you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about you? Are you? You're talking about? I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, actually happen the second time. If I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing this podcast at the time that I discovered

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<v Speaker 1>that they cut this line, you know how many associations

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<v Speaker 1>would disassociate me from what I was saying. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so mad. Mh I was. It's a low down, dirty

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<v Speaker 1>shame bro Keen and Ivory Wins. Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>It was b s dog. I had two days of

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<v Speaker 1>no WiFi. It ain't even the WiFi. It's the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that if you drove over this black line with red

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<v Speaker 1>and red even in Europe, means stop, m hm, educate

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<v Speaker 1>red flags on top of a black line that's going

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<v Speaker 1>through out it goes from my front yard to my backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>He he caught with this sharp blade underneath that driving

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<v Speaker 1>over it. He would be okay, tow it up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you are so mad at your anger. You are the

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<v Speaker 1>first guy, he was straight. The second guy. Let them

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<v Speaker 1>be more on my grass this week, and I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>the house. It's gonna show down. Really, he don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>As I am progressing and I'm growing up, but every

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<v Speaker 1>so often I ain't. I'm this woman in my elbow.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't molly watched somebody this year yet I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe like me and Andrew looking at it. She goes, Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>big man, I'll tell you, you man, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mad laziness dog. So I guess the safe to

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<v Speaker 1>say that we ain't gonna be or we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be endorsing this because I had to read for

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<v Speaker 1>this landscape, because let me tell you, tell me, I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't read it right now. If you don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a new landscaper because these dudes and my

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<v Speaker 1>landscape is great. But this, come on, dog, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the topic. This is just lack of because why I

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<v Speaker 1>look at that? Why why it gets me so charged up?

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<v Speaker 1>It's if you're lazy to do that? What other areas

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<v Speaker 1>are you skimping on? And so now I'm in every

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<v Speaker 1>before they get there, and before they and after they leave,

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<v Speaker 1>I am checking to make sure did you get my

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<v Speaker 1>flower beds? Did you get this? Did you get that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you don't, I'm done with them. Stand your ground, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>stand your ground. You know what. I hope your wife

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<v Speaker 1>I get cut? Oh we got alright. Coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>the cut to a podcast, we've got Jachem Grant, a

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<v Speaker 1>while receiver for the Miami Dolphins. He's a native of Dallas, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and was just named second team All Pro and as

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<v Speaker 1>a punt returner. Jachem Grant on the Cut to a Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we will announce right now your nickname, which I would

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<v Speaker 1>not call you by, which is black but black? How

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<v Speaker 1>did you get home? How did you get the nickname black?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dark as hell man, right, That's that's what people

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. I'm okay with being dark. Man, look, dark man. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they called me. I'm talking about from high

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<v Speaker 1>school to college, everything from pee wee. I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>The coaches called me black. Everybody called me black. Even

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<v Speaker 1>even white coaches call you black. Yeah, even white coaches

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<v Speaker 1>call me black still to this day. Real he is dark,

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm telling if he closed his eyes and but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that brother got a clean set of anneers though brussus

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<v Speaker 1>teeth and floss. I see, that's a fact. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to when you're that dark and ugly, you gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>other attributes. Take the dark window, the window as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a leader of the under short people. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to welcome you into the group of playmakers

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<v Speaker 1>six feet in below right, welcome to Welcome to the squad.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Well, he like five way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you don't know you said welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>squad as if you in the squad we all on

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<v Speaker 1>the six feet right. Yeah, but you gotta actually had

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<v Speaker 1>did something. Oh okay, I'll leave my bad. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know I didn't do anything. I thought we were just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about hype requirements. That ain't no, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot the corner. He was a corner. I forgot you

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<v Speaker 1>was an elitist. I'm showing that you just were. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a corner we wanted. We got let corners. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you I see. I see myself outter.

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<v Speaker 1>You wonder if he was trying he told yeah, where's that?

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<v Speaker 1>He was all I got you look look, yeah he

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<v Speaker 1>got quiet. Yeah, alright, let's go. Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your favorite lazy activity? Netflix? Sitting there and

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<v Speaker 1>watching TV's. So are you a Netflix being join movies

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<v Speaker 1>or shows? Shows? Most definitely shows. I gotta have a

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<v Speaker 1>sit which one you're on right now? Um look at

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<v Speaker 1>boy timing the time of that way that I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get some Look at floppers, wife and kids back home

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas. Yeah, so I have nothing to do. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about when you when you say my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and kids, I just sent them back to Texas. Um

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<v Speaker 1>My want to move back to be around family and stuff. So,

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<v Speaker 1>um you know how the NFL go. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>team to be on the next team, So what you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about that? So that's home base? And so um man,

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<v Speaker 1>when I tell you loneliness, the strikes when you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got your kids and your wife there, Yeah, tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm all in the Netflix Netflix hardcore all

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<v Speaker 1>day cool, All right, what's um? I know I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get you on this one. Definitely favorite Christmas song or

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<v Speaker 1>Carol man I if you have one that's fun, Rudolf,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I mean go with rut Off. The red

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<v Speaker 1>nose rein Deer had a very sign you know if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever saw him. M yeah, yeah, appreciate No, I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. Yeah. See, that's what happens when you just

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<v Speaker 1>you just throw something out there and then they call

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<v Speaker 1>you on you're trying to wing it. I had it,

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<v Speaker 1>I had I had the first couple of Yeah, there's Temptations, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Temptations Solid Night count that's my favorite. Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you know it's Christmas time. When that Temptations slid

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<v Speaker 1>Night comes on, it's Christmas time. So I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>that's we didn't coordinate this. Yeah. When I was a kindygarten,

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<v Speaker 1>our Christmas are Christmas. H was that Christmas progrogram? We

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<v Speaker 1>have to sing Silent Night so big, So I like

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<v Speaker 1>Solid Night. I just like the Temptations first, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's that that's that legit one. That baritone voice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's the one of money right there. Huh cool.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you display love to friends and family? Time? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>spending time with them and uh the showing them that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm I'm here for you and sign a

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<v Speaker 1>vice versa. I think time is the biggest thing, especially

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<v Speaker 1>being an athlete. They're just showing you that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>still care about you, I'm still here for you, like

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<v Speaker 1>without happening, you know, as you know, Steve buying somebody something.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm here. Just let's spend time. Let's do this,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do that. I like that. All right, last one?

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<v Speaker 1>You ready, I'm ready. I know you're a returner, but

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<v Speaker 1>you also are excellent receiver. What is your favorite route

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<v Speaker 1>to run? And a go route is not a route?

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<v Speaker 1>Choice route, choice route over the ball? Sit right there?

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<v Speaker 1>We Uh you can break in out sometimes you get

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<v Speaker 1>you get messed up on you saw you the Nickel Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy easy, easy words. Especially I love you when man

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<v Speaker 1>coverage because yeah, I got three way, I got I

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<v Speaker 1>got two way go. I can beat you with speed,

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<v Speaker 1>run across the run across, or I can hit you

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<v Speaker 1>and make you feel like I'm going all the way

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<v Speaker 1>cross and returned back out. All right. So where are

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<v Speaker 1>you from in the place you call your hometown, Ballace, Texas?

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm, okay, it was tough. It was rough, single

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<v Speaker 1>payer at home mom working two jobs, trying to uh

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<v Speaker 1>provide for me and my my two brothers and men

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<v Speaker 1>that left us up to doing everything. Um mom was

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<v Speaker 1>never home, she had to work and to make ends meet,

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<v Speaker 1>and me and my brothers was running wild. And we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it. We didn't make it easy on them

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I say, with you know, gang activity,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean from everything, time on your hands, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time on your hands. And it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oldest brother started off with it and and

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<v Speaker 1>my brother. My mom always told us you your brother's keeper.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like, hey, you and it we in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is how it was gonna go. How the

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<v Speaker 1>gang activity got into it. And then everybody was just like, hey, hey, black,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the only one that you're the only one that

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<v Speaker 1>can make it out of us. So that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just turned me on a different path. And then also

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<v Speaker 1>with my oldest brother getting side in the next so

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<v Speaker 1>that was just that was a rout for me. Your

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<v Speaker 1>older brother got shot in the neck. Yep, we're still

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<v Speaker 1>here to this day, not paralyzed, Thank God for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was it. That was a rat for me. Mhm.

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<v Speaker 1>What did what did football represent to you in your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Football was with everything going on in my life, mom

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<v Speaker 1>doing paying two jobs and stuff like that, doing this

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<v Speaker 1>and that, it was my getaway. It's my safe hayting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever asked anyone this, and it

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing this rundown and made me think

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<v Speaker 1>of that because I was thinking about myself. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as a as as a I only know

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<v Speaker 1>the African community. Um yeah, why I think I'll ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know to answer myself. Why do we

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<v Speaker 1>think sports is the only way we can get out

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<v Speaker 1>of out of poverty? Because because to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to be honest, don't lie. Yeah yeah, I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it takes it takes away that time,

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<v Speaker 1>what time and what the time that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>to get into anything. And so as you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete, when you when you have you've got time

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<v Speaker 1>this but whenever you're an athlete, everything you have is boom.

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<v Speaker 1>You have this this one time you got this is

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<v Speaker 1>everything destructured. So it was just basically like, and ain't

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<v Speaker 1>no way I can go and do this when I

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<v Speaker 1>got when I gotta do, I gotta work out, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta stay ahead in the game. I gotta I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta eat right, I gotta do this, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>study on. I got school and stuff. I gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>all this, so there's no time for me to get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. We have to take a break and the

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<v Speaker 1>morning thing, we gotta pay some bills. You got checks.

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got

0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 1>all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother,

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<v Speaker 1>cut to a Podcast dot Com. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>play football, Momma put me in football. I I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was skater, like skater, like not the

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<v Speaker 1>ramps and doing all that like inline speed skates, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the for the Olympics where they it was basically like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>ice skate, mom was It wasn't ice skate, but the blades. Yeah,

0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>they had nipads and elbow pads. Now they had the

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<v Speaker 1>elbow pads and just ahead just the helm helmet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I'm talking short yeah yeah, yeah, I'm talking Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was strictly off. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>strictly speed. Was there like an inline league or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, I used to skate for the Texas Squires.

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<v Speaker 1>See I'm guessing, wasn't y'all didn't have inline rollerblading in

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<v Speaker 1>the hood. No, we didn't. We went to this skating

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<v Speaker 1>ring called called Broadway Skating Ring where my mom used

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<v Speaker 1>to drop us off. This is when we're young. Now wait,

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<v Speaker 1>this is way before gang activity and all that extra stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Mom used to hey, y'all, yeah, y'all go

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<v Speaker 1>up to the y'all go up to the skating ring.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to go up there all the time. They

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<v Speaker 1>start letting us in for free and we'll be up

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<v Speaker 1>there from literally from two to eleven PM and me

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<v Speaker 1>to h, I do it all. I still skate, but

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about skating like NonStop. My brothers and them,

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<v Speaker 1>they take a break, I'm still skating because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the fastest on skating is doing everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Dad, the one that used to work that, his

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<v Speaker 1>name was Dad. He worked behind the skate counter and

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just like, how would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the Texas Flyers? And I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it, like he was. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just told him, like I don't think I can

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<v Speaker 1>afford the inline skates. I don't I can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and he said, don't worry about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I signed up right then and there, and the next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, killing them And then we used to then

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<v Speaker 1>and now this is how I got introduced the football.

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<v Speaker 1>I was if we played this. We played this game

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<v Speaker 1>called Sharks in the Meadows. It's for four guys, four

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<v Speaker 1>guys on skates and a whole bunch of kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle to skating ring, and everybody got tagged out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the last person me versus four four guys on

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<v Speaker 1>skates and little dodo. I know my mom walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and she and she watching it and I made all

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>four of them fall and they just they called the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And then next thing, you know, that next day, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom signed me up for football and I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing. I'm trying to I want to those skate

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, just just trust me, You'll think

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<v Speaker 1>me like m and the wrest was itty cool. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I what's funny is um my mom when she was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get her degree and we were in I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was in middle school. My mom used to

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<v Speaker 1>drop me off on Saturdays at the ice skating ring

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<v Speaker 1>and Culver City. She's get me back then that was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of much. She give me ten bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>drop me off on our ice skate all day and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we did. And then when I it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>when I go back home now, especially working for the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Network, which is right there on Culver City, I

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<v Speaker 1>drive past the ice skating right every time. I just

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. So yeah, I mean that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>asked not to make funs. But just especially with having

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<v Speaker 1>kids now, and you know, everything is so one sports centric.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is about one sport, one sport, but realizing you

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>can see the athleticism in people in other sports. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you being able to skate as funny

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, even when I go to events or

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<v Speaker 1>do something with my kids, somebody birthday party, and the

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>kids are always amazed, like I get on a skates,

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<v Speaker 1>rollerblade and you know, roller skates, skiing, play tennis, golf,

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<v Speaker 1>like all those different sports that I'm not great at them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can hold a conversation or I can eat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we can have a little bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty cool, man. I love that. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>get back to that conversation on I want the football. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom takes you, she takes you off the flyers

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>because she sees some things. And your mom is a scout.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to mom, dude, you know she she already

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah she saw with some of these bums didn't see,

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<v Speaker 1>uh right. And you know the reason I asked I

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<v Speaker 1>asked that is, you know, what does football representing your

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<v Speaker 1>mind growing up? Because I know, as I go back,

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>football represented everything for me. Football represented how I got

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<v Speaker 1>out of the hood, Football represented how I would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go to college. It just represented football was

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<v Speaker 1>everything my folks couldn't do for me. That's what football

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>was for me. So if I you know it, football

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>cleaks were baseball cleaks. And then I actually had to

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<v Speaker 1>practice like three or four games, three or four practices

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<v Speaker 1>in my baseball slash football cleeks in the gym because

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<v Speaker 1>mom didn't have no money until you know, two weeks later,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they had to let me practice playing basketball

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<v Speaker 1>in in the rubber cleeks. And I was from up

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that gym. People are pissed at me, but that's all

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>we can afford, you know, we we we had to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So you know, that's why I was asking

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>what it means to you and why you know and

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and and it sounds like you know, I mean I

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>think you're young, you're you're probably the answer will change.

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<v Speaker 1>Football is like means everything to me because not only

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>just like you helped me make it out of the hood,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>also it created this this thing where it is where

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<v Speaker 1>as a team it's it's not all about you, and

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>so the thing was for me you lost me. Now

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm n when it's when it's not all about you.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just like I took that mindset of like, hey

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you king, I have your Basically they looked at me

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>as the children one. So I was like, I gotta

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>give my mouth hood, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta help.

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I gotta help my Mama's like with my brothers, I gotta,

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do this. I have to do that, like

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I have to take care of my family. So it

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>was more of like putting everything on my shoulders. And

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I'm I see I watched my

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>mom go and work two jobs. You think you do?

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I rather do that or why? I'd rather just go

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>out here for the these couple of hours and busts

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and bust my ass on my loan, on my own,

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, get to where I need to get

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to so I can make sure mom is straight. My brothers,

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 1>my brothers are good. That did that pressure applying on yourself?

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I had that pressure? How did you deal with that?

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It was I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes it was overwhelming

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>because it was times where like my brother comes to you,

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>come to me and be like it's you or or

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>we are we are we screwed, And it was just

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like I can't feel you know what I mean? It's

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>like I can't feel and when what? At what time?

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>What age what what what? What? What time frame is

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>this when they're talking to you. You know, it's your

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it's you make it or we don't. Basically sophomore high school. Yeah,

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>because that's where it really started getting getting real, where

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like, came, you got scouts looking at you. Now

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you got this that I watched how you carry your stuff?

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You have to do this And I'm like and I'm like, man,

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm still a kid. I want to have fun too,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>just like everybody else. But it forced me to grow

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>up early and I had to be able to, you know,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>go out here and carry myself a certain way and

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>show and show them that like I got you don't

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about nothing. Then like I'm I'm gonna put

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>all these chips into you know, Plan eight, because there's

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>no Plan B. I'm gonna put all these chips in

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the Plan eight to make this to see was that

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the my brother's keeping mentality that was that was already

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>instilled in you that you carried I mean, your it

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is not your brother, but it wasn't that mentality that

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>was able to keep you, uh in that mindset. It

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>was my brother's keeper. And also watching watching my watching

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>my my mom go to go to work and not

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>get off until like midnight, and I can hear her

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>coming in. I can hear her coming in the door

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<v Speaker 1>and and things like that, and I can hear her

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes crying because she's like I don't have enough to

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>make ends meet this month, like all these things that

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know that I know. And and and one

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>thing that you got to Mama, I've never asked for nothing,

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>because I knew that she was. She was struggling to,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, to make ends meet and also give us everything.

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And so when I when I see her, you know,

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>must and are asked trying to provide for me and

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>my brothers and you know, and also that that brothers

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>keep her mentality like I'm like, man, I can I

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>can do this? Like she has still that at me.

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I see her do it, Like I watched her go

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>in and work two jobs to make ends meet. This

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>going out here for a couple of hours, putting my

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>body through everything that's nothing like it's it's gonna pay off.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna pay off. And it's been times where you know,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I just just even sit at the fifty yard line

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and just think like like I can't I can't fail.

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't sit here. I can't fail. I can't do this,

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Like my mom needs my brother needs me, like every

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>every my whole my family needs me. So I gotta

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>go out here and I gotta get it now. On

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the on the flip side, does that pressure ever get

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to you? Like? Does that? Is there ever like an

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>overwhelming feeling? How do you deal with that? That's that's

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>the tough one because it's it's like who do I

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>run and talk to? Who do I tell? And it's

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>it's an overwhelming It's overwhelming because you you have like

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>when you started creeping up and you know, being recruited,

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you still I'm getting that on my top of my soul.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like you know, coaches telling me, hey, became, you're

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>too small, you can't do this, like like we could

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>take Texas for an example, like, um, I went to

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the Texas camps and they told me, hey,

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>he's too small to play for us and all of

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that things. So like I'm thinking in my head like, man,

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>am I even going to be able to make it?

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I like, am I gonna let my family down?

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Like what do I do? Who do? Like I don't

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>know who to even go talk to, you know, so,

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and I looked for that and um, and I got

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>real close to one of my high school coaches, which

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>his name is Larry Sherman. And like I said, my

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>white high school coach called black. Still to this day,

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>he still caught me black Tuesday and I looked at

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>him like a father figure because he was there for

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>me like throughout like everything, and it was somebody that

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I can go and talk to. And I'm like, hey, coach,

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if I can carry this

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>load anymore like you got you got coaches d One

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>College is telling me I'm too short to play for them,

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>even though they loved me, but I'm just too short

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to play for them. And and I have to help.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I have to get my mom and my brother's out

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of the hood. Like I don't. I don't know if

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I can can. I don't know if I can keep

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>this up, Like maybe what have I hit my peek

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>like things like that. And he just told me, you know,

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about what they say, keep your head down

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and continue to grind. It's got you this far and

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it will continue to take you as far as you

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go. Now, you you hit on your recruiting journey,

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to touch on that a little bit.

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>So you went to was it John Horn High School? Yes, sir,

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So you went to John Horn High School? And what

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>was what was your recruiting journey? Like, you've hit on

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>some of the people who were looking at you that

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>you were kind of teeter tottering amongst you know, D

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>one and some other schools. But um, what was that

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>recruiting journey like for you? And when did you realize

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to eventually attend Texas Tech. Um, what

0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the funny part is is, I was I didn't like

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I heard that Texas Tech was, um, they had already

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>had a guy like my my size, and I was

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>already you know, looking to go to Tusa, Oklahoma. And

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, um, they don't have a

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>slot receiver. I'm gonna be that slot receiver. And Texas

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Tech was just like, oh, we we got a slide,

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>but we also wanted to keep as well. And like

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, man, I'm good like and and

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and and this is this is after

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just giving you a rundown. After like all

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the recruiting stuff. I'm I'm a flashback, but it's it's crazy.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a crazy story. I ended up at Texas Tech

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm I'm telling I told him. I was like, no,

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to come there. You already have a receiver,

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you have a slot receiver, you'll have this and that.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>And he's just like me, and so I'm I'm go

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>by I'm telling. I'm still telling to know my coaches

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>like Teste's offer still on the board, they want you.

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no. I think I told him

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>know like eight times. I was like no, no. And

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>then one morning I'm going I'm getting ready for my

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>my basketball tournament and we're loading the bus at six

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning. I kid you not, I could

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you not. Coach Maynard was standing right there with the

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech stuff on, and he was like, you can't

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>just take a visit and after that, if you still

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to come, then we won't bother you no more.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, all right, coach, I take a visit,

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>took a visit. I was in and I committed, but

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>um far on Like before before then, it was a

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of um small offers like, you know,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>not not big like Texas Tech and and like that.

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>It was more like Wyoming toss a lot of tech

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>um like little schools like that, like and and I was,

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, I was even know nothing about it.

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, man, that was the offers. I'm like,

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like somebody my size has always looked over like I'm getting.

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I had a bunch of those small school

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>offers and I'm like, to me, that was big. I was.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, man, hey. And then and then

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt offered me late late in the because they had

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>a coach changed from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and they went over

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to Venderbilt and they wanted me to come there. And

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, hey, man, look like like all

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>these small schools these are big offers. Me, I don't,

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I go, I go any I go

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>anywhere that that I feel like that I love. And

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>so me, my mom, all them went up to UH

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to the visit and they loved it. Small town couldn't

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>get it, couldn't get in trouble out there. So I

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I'm all in so committed to Texas Tech.

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And then you get on campus and you read shorty, yes, sir,

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is there a reason why? Um? Honestly, I just felt

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't. I wasn't prepared enough, like mentally and

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I would say physically, like routes were trash. Um. I

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>just needed to I needed to grow more, as you know,

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a student and an athlete like I needed to be

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>able to you know. I got there and I'm I'm

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>doing I'm doing speed outs and I'm following on speed outs,

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm following on ends. And I wouldn't able. I wouldn't.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't able to control my speed. I wouldn't. I

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>was just running and you know exactly it was run

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 1>a hundreds an trying to creak and I'm just I'm

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and my legs sliding from onto me and I couldn't.

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like like, no matter what, like

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I want, I won't be a good asset to y'all

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>at like like right now, I need to I need

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to grow, I need to build. I need to you know,

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I need to be able. That's that's that's not you

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>don't generally see, you know, a young kid understand that

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>self awareness, that self awareness, because that's the first impact

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I got like for you to that was a that

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>was a decision you made on your own, because I

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>never really heard of that. I just did a camp

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. Um. A buddy of mine was doing

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the camp. But I just observed and I came to

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the camp and man, I was, actually, I'm gonna ask

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you this question so it will run. We're getting off

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the arm ramp, merging in the traffic. Yeah. And I

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was at this camp and I said, I ain't seen

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>so many navels displayed from the wide receiver. They all had.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I liked, I'm just calling what they are cropped. They

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>had a whole bunch of crop tops on like like

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what I'm trying to say. The

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.879
<v Speaker 1>young kids, Man, it's just all about the look now,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>you know you don't see and what else like the

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 1>hoopie rings. Yeah, they'd hoopie rings with the hoopie rings

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>with the crosses on them. Yeah. And they got the

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>shirt cropped and you see their navel and and then

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they're getting bridge pressure at the line. I think. So,

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of these guys took um you know,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>prom time um quote to a different level, not to

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>where how prom time did it where it looked good,

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>feel good playing where most of these people just out

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>there just to look good and trash, yeah, trash. And

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 1>so it's not about that, you know nowadays, what it's

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>about it's about this, I G this and that. Oh

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I look good on that? How many lights can I get?

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>How can I do this? I'm old school dude, right,

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>and so the old school you know, Yeah, you want

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to feel like you showing out, like for me, showing out. Man.

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>You got your gloves, you got your tag, you got

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the DN face. Man, that was a big deal. Yeah,

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have a D face. Man, you're the most

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you're the most slagged out person on the team if

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you got that face with a visor, right or you know,

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>we I didn't have gloves for a long time, so

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I used to take my fingers like Tim Brown. Yeah,

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>or back when when you got the river protector like

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that was unfortunately I had to wear the river protect

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>your few times. But it was like everybody got my

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 1>rip crack um, you know, spat. But man, what I

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>look at him. I can't even imagine. I'm gonna actually

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>go to a high school football game this year, and

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I just want to see how the game has changed.

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not changing, and I'm not talking about you know,

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>it's getting soft, and I just it's so much about

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>appearance that is starting to like warp the opinion. It's starting.

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes ball is getting a little soft. What

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>what what you're playing right now? So I'm not anymore,

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>don't play, But what is your opinion? Since you are

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you know you're drafting two thousand. Uh, I can't really

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>relate to some of the young guys. I can't relate

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>more to the young guys, and they're they are far

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and few like old school. Yeah. No, I can definitely

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>understand what you're saying, especially like you said, they more off, looked,

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>more off their appearance and play, and some of them

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>are just like playing cropbabies like it's hot. It's this man,

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this this is too long. Man. Like I like back

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>in the day where it's like coaches was damn, they're

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>military coaches. Hey yeah, dogcause I'm talking about cut you

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 1>if you can't, if you can't take it, get off

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>my field. That's exactly how they was. It wasn't though,

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh you you're a five star pig, You're a five

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>star you know recruit. Oh we're gonna We're gonna show

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you the world, give you this, give you that. Now

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you come in, you're gonna be just like a guy

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>that was like me, I'm a three star. You're gonna

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>come in and have to work for everything, just like that.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of that is people going

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>in there and thinking that I was a five star

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>recruit I got and now everything's gonna be handed to me.

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where people again, I lost that. I

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:06.959
<v Speaker 1>think it's about that time. Just take a little breather, good, good,

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>let's getting down to dood. Hey Gerard, why did you

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>get that T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh? Yes,

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.520
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0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.719
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<v Speaker 1>at seven or four shot. But yeah, you can go on,

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. Your rookie year, yeah, your rookie ears

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 1>my last it was second till last year. I had

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to be last. Six You got draft, I got drifting

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>a six dayeah, ok yeah, second to the last. Was it?

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It was down there? Yeah? Okay, all right? Tail oh

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I was basically basically I'm rookie. You've never done part

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 1>return the day in my life and got tot in

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Foot in the NFL. Like I'll tell you.

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 1>We had a preseason game versus the Giants and Coach

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>rez threw he threw me back there and I was

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>just like and the ball punished straight to me. We

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>vice to vice. The gunner gave me space, so wiggle

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>room gave me space. Yeah, we're a room. Man. I

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>let the ball bounce, I said, I I got it.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I let the ball bounce. I pick it up, and

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, I get you know, get a little decent yards. Uh.

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I run back to the run back to the sideline,

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and I see Coach Rezzy. His face is red. I'm

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.439
<v Speaker 1>talking about red. And he's like, why didn't you kiss

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball? This and that. I was like, I don't know,

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>coach like that, like I don't know deep down, and

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to tell like, man was scared. I'm saying

0:44:56.239 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>it ain't so, bro man, I'm wrong. I'm hey, they

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>just make them different than Dallas. They don't you never

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:16.439
<v Speaker 1>got you never was scared at all. Absolutely to him,

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that is a scary back there, but mine is not.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not as scared because I'm comfortable. I was. I

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>was always comfortable because I knew I was in control.

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I wasn't. I didn't have about the

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>first time. No, No, I wasn't. It was I was

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>always I was comfortable. Now nervous, Yes, you're not scared. Nervous, absolutely,

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 1>because if you know you got that return, you got

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that vice guy. First of all, if you're playing vice

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>on pump return, your ass can't cover generally, so you

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>ain't got really a good feet at the line. Right,

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>So if you got four corners and one that started

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my backups as a pot attorney, you

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 1>find out pretty quickly why they are backups. Yep, So

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, so you have control of all, right, so

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to you, So you you get scared, then you go

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>out and play. You played the Giants, Yeah, we was

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>playing the Giant and I called the second one, took

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>it forty, and so that started that. That was like,

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, I ain't gonna drop this, I ain't gonna

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>take I'm gonna catch this. So he ain't he ain't

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta he ain't gotta hear, but I ain't gotta hear

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>his smout when I get to sil So I was like,

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:46.399
<v Speaker 1>all right, man, I take it. Forty team team going

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>crazy and I'm like all right. And so I had

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.840
<v Speaker 1>like I had the slope like I'm now like next

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>game musket ball doing this, and I'm like, man, right now,

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get I ain't never did this before. So like, yeah,

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 1>they don't. They don't say that on your they don't

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>put that on the stats. They don't tell it. You know,

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't put that in the program for the fans

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that's booing you, that's cussing you out, talking about you

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>ain't doing nothing for their fantasy team. They don't say, hey,

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 1>first time driver, the first time catchers and so and

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>so I'm just like, you know what, I stayed after

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>practice and stayed doing this. Yeah, before practice, I'm going

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.760
<v Speaker 1>after that before practice, Like why people are just gonna

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 1>walk in and go get you know, go to the

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>stretch lines, and before walk through, I'm already in a

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>fullball on swag getting back there and going just you know,

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't I we get around to the game when we play, y'all,

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and you're back there stretching. I ain't

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a lie. I was started on my favorite players growing up.

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, god, I know that man. I

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>kept my cue though. I was like he was just

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>like he was like, relax, kissed the ball as eat

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 1>two words he said to me. I was like, all right, Vet.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And so that game I had like, you know, decent returns.

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about I'm running up, not calling for kids

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>doing like catching the ball like in between traffic. And

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like and Coach looked at me. It was like

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>he was just like amazing. He was like, okay, okay,

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you. Like, I'm like, well, well here's here's something.

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Here's something, here's Something's funny. Though, So in that game,

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I dropped a touchdown pass back in the end zone.

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I ain't even I don't even remember that I dropped

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>a touchdown pass a easy catch. Uh. R J Stanford

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was on the team right m dB. He played the

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 1>University of you taught. That's my guy. He's actually he

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>graduated from the police department up in Washington, d C.

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And so he he was. R J was in Carolina

0:48:55.040 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 1>with me. You talk guy man, really good guy. Corner

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>struggle bus a little bit. That's my guy. Thought, But

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>he's on the struggle bus and I just remember that

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>game that was you know, near the end. It was hot,

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 1>it was muggy, and I just I remember in as

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>funny as as you are struggling and thinking about how

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>do I you know, catching the ball, traffic, getting get

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 1>getting to your routine. Man, that just shows you right there,

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>all the even the old heads, we all have our

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 1>days where you have to focus. I remember, I dropped

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the pass. It's a touchdown, and we end up running

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the motion. I end up catching a touchdown, um, but

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 1>coming back. But I missed some passes in that game.

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And so as funny as you got, you know, under

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the six ft crew, you got one guy that's rising

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.280
<v Speaker 1>up to the top and then one guy who's eventually

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>checking out. And so that just kind of shows you

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you never know what's going on. And so just that

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 1>nervousness or that indecisiveness that you have upon yourself. But

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you didn't catch and improve that day because you met me.

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>You did that because of all the work you put

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 1>in before that. You got to remember this right, and

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>we go back biblically, go back biblically. You are soil.

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>But however, in that soil, you have to have the

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 1>right instruments, and the right instruments is you allow God

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to put the right people in in your life. And

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>by putting those right people in your life, you know

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do. They're gonna tell that's all. They're

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn it up, get all the nutrients, get all

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's supposed to be out of it. And

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>then God will put and direct some people like Coach

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>on Jefferies where they can drop those seas in there.

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>And then, whether you believe or not, Adam Gaates he

0:50:56.320 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 1>has that line. And then Coach Floors and all other

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:05.919
<v Speaker 1>people come back and they water and eventually as it's

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>tilt seed, it turned over and dealt with it now

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>starts to bear not fruits, but fruit. And the only

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 1>way it's gonna bear good fruit is if it's got

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to have deep routes. And that deep route was established

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>not because you met me or you watch some video

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.959
<v Speaker 1>or somebody else. It was because of the hard work

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 1>you put in. You just didn't realize it because your

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>version of hard work growing up in Dallas was okay.

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 1>But your hard work now is a professional requires every

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 1>day maintenance, not maintence of stretching, but maintenance of the mental,

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the physical, and the most important in your heart. If

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>you have those things that keep doing it, man, you

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you will be that wide receiver you want to be.

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>But you gotta have a goal. And I would tell

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you this in changing up and want to be that

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>impactful wide receiver that you can be. Start setting some

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 1>goals and every goal you have, put three people name

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to those goals, three people, three people to that name,

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and you'll start to see how it changes and how

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you look at those goals. Then they just don't become

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 1>abstract ideas. You start to establish those can be accomplished

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>because who you're doing it for. All right, let's go

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to let's let's finish out so last two questions. So, uh, Jackim,

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:52.719
<v Speaker 1>what are you most grateful to football? For being able

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to get the opportunity to move Moss and brothers out

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 1>of the hood into a better situation and so that

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to You know, I'm able to help

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Mama she you know she needed. You know, I'm able

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>to help my brothers that they needed. You know, That's

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>what I'm most grateful for. I was able, I've I'm

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>somewhat accomplished what I what I what I needed to

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>do is get my mama and my brothers out of

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the hood. And so that is what I'm most grateful for.

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>And not not only for you know, my brothers and

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.399
<v Speaker 1>my mom, but as for my own family, being able

0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 1>to take care of my own family and being able to,

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, put put money aside for my kids, you know,

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>trust and being able to do that, you know, because

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:47.399
<v Speaker 1>then in black community, we you know, there's no there's

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>no trust, there's no trust for us, there's no we

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>have to we gotta go get it financial, yeah, exactly.

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>And so being able to being able to do that

0:53:56.920 --> 0:54:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, make sure that my kids don't have

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to wants or what not, not want but need anything

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that you know, And so that's that's what I'm most

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 1>m hm. That's what does it mean to you right

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>now to be a father? If you know what it's

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like not to have a daddy, So you know what

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it means to be a daddy. And before you answer, bro,

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:34.360
<v Speaker 1>there were times I would get upset and be angry

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 1>putting my kids down because I know what it's like

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 1>as a father to kiss my boys good night and

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 1>know that Daddy will be up when you get up

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and I would go to I would actually go downstairs

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:53.879
<v Speaker 1>upset because I know what I missed with my dad,

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:56.479
<v Speaker 1>and I know I didn't what I did not get

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to me. Um basically what I'm what iut my what

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:08.320
<v Speaker 1>my father not being there and my mom happened to

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 1>play two roles talk built up so much anger, but

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 1>also showed me all the right things not to do

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>as a father, which is the most thing, is the

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>absolutely And so kids don't want anything but Tom And

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that's all I do is give my baby's time, my

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:39.320
<v Speaker 1>son time, my twins, my twin girls time. And knowing

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that it's growing up. Man, I'm I used to be

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 1>piste off when I see my boys and they and

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>they and they and they popped coming to pick him

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>up from practice. And I know that you know any

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>type of you know, sports that you know my son

0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 1>has that he that he loves to play even with him,

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, being you know, our autistic. You know, I'm there.

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm showing him that Dad is here for you no

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 1>matter what, that's never gonna never leave you, that daddy

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>will do anything for you, that they're gonna be here

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>no matter what. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you,

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be here and not be here. So what

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I try to do is give my kids the absolute

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:27.839
<v Speaker 1>world and and and teach them everything that my father

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:33.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to teach. You just just absolutely

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>just be there for them. Yes, now I couldn't. It's

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.240
<v Speaker 1>just hard to put a lot of things, that's a word,

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:47.959
<v Speaker 1>and just to like shows like because it's times where

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I forget, I forgave my dad. Man, my

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 1>dad has you know, okay relationships right now, and and

0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes bringing my pops around, you know, my kids and

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 1>watch him playing with my kids pisses me off to

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the max because I'm like, dog, you got this in you,

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you have this in you. Why didn't you do it,

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty years back then? Like and I tell him, man,

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I sit there and I'm wrong, like, yo, Pops, Like

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like it hurts to see you do this with my

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 1>kids and this is all I ask for you as

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a kid Like that hurts to the court. Like, don't

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, I love you playing with you know,

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 1>my kids and being there for them. And it took

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>time for me to even allow him to be around

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>with my kids because what happens when they get attested

0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 1>to him and he tells them the same thing he

0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 1>told me. Hey, I'm gonna come by and I'm gonna

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>see y'all and never show so all of those things

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:57.360
<v Speaker 1>that he did when I was a little kid, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I took. I was like, I was one word.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one rule, don't be like my dad. And

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<v Speaker 1>and that's been absent. So making broken, given broken promises,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole none, and just not teaching me how to

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<v Speaker 1>be a man. So I have to go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and find another father figure in the coach that I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in high school. And I told myself I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I wouldn't do my kids like that, or I

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<v Speaker 1>would not allow them to, you know, to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that it is absent from their life. Yeah, it's it

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<v Speaker 1>is a tough. It is a tough thing. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the things that I can help you

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<v Speaker 1>with or or tell you is the unfortunate part. Grandpa

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<v Speaker 1>now gets a hall pass because Daddy's here, So Grandpa

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<v Speaker 1>isn't required to show up every day. That is, Grandpa

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<v Speaker 1>has other things going on, but that doesn't so whatever

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<v Speaker 1>areas that he falls short, one you already know he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fall short. So you're already prepared, Bro, You're already

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<v Speaker 1>stepping in. You're already changing that culture, You're changing that lineage.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep changing. Don't focus, don't focus on concern yourself

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<v Speaker 1>on what Grandpa maybe isn't doing, because here's the here's

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<v Speaker 1>the advantage you have Grandpa, Oh Grandpapa, get your grandpa. Grace, man,

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<v Speaker 1>give make the excuse for Grandpa because just like, just

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<v Speaker 1>like you know that dB, just like you know that secondary,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know um where your pp is gonna be,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know where you're you're right guard, don't kickoff

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<v Speaker 1>return is gonna be. But you also know you have

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<v Speaker 1>to account for the unfre seen things and I'm foreseen

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<v Speaker 1>things are sometimes just like Grandpa, some guys gonna miss

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<v Speaker 1>a block. But as long as you do your job

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<v Speaker 1>and you do it well, you can make the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>job for someone else, make them look right. Like get that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting the a D A yard touchdown at

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven yard returned even though because the lesser man

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<v Speaker 1>would have got tackled, wouldn't have been able to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>and see. So give him some grace. You've used to,

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<v Speaker 1>you are used to carrying the burden. Continue to keep

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<v Speaker 1>carrying the burden, except the differences. Your kids aren't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be heart broken. Yep, Man, we appreciate your time. Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>It's been awesome. Again. I appreciate your patience. I appreciate also,

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<v Speaker 1>um the way you play man, You play it the

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<v Speaker 1>right way, but one way. Well, we would not h

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<v Speaker 1>invite you back over. We will wipe clean our Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and all of our social media with you on there.

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<v Speaker 1>If we catch you on Sunday with that navel out,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have okay, all right, just making sure ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gotta worried about it, all right. Well, appreciate your brother. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you, man, Thank you. I appreciate you all. Man.

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