1
00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800
Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

2
00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,880
Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost

3
00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Famous podcast. Today. It is just me, but not really

4
00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,239
Speaker 1: because I'm joined by the happiest happy couple I think

5
00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,239
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life, Brandon and Serene. Oh

6
00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,480
Speaker 1: my gosh, welcome to the show, you guys. It's so

7
00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,960
Speaker 1: great to see you guys again. Jared and I had

8
00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,320
Speaker 1: absolutely no doubts that you were going to live happily

9
00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,360
Speaker 1: ever after and be the couple that had smooth sailing

10
00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:38,680
Speaker 1: the entire way. Um, congratulations, thank you, Oh my gosh, Okay,

11
00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,839
Speaker 1: good to see you again. It was so good to

12
00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,280
Speaker 1: see you. We have been telling everybody how like genuinely

13
00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,280
Speaker 1: sweet as pie you two are. It's like there's not

14
00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,520
Speaker 1: like any sort of there's like there's like no negativity

15
00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,880
Speaker 1: around you ever. And um, I can just yeah, I

16
00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,000
Speaker 1: can go on and on about just the bliss that

17
00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,080
Speaker 1: is around you. Now, let's kind of go what's funny

18
00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,679
Speaker 1: is that, Like usually we'd like to dive into Selesia stuff,

19
00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,400
Speaker 1: but like with you guys, there's absolutely no Sealsia stuff.

20
00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,560
Speaker 1: So I just want to like go like time by

21
00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,080
Speaker 1: time throughout paradise and talk about like the happiest moments

22
00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:21,520
Speaker 1: and like the biggest like heart flutters and all that. Yeah, okay,

23
00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,520
Speaker 1: so let's talk about the time you guys both first

24
00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 1: laid eyes on each other. Who was down there first,

25
00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,039
Speaker 1: wasn't it? It It was Serene? Right? Yeah? So you're the

26
00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,560
Speaker 1: first girl, right, Yeah? I was the first girl, And honestly,

27
00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,000
Speaker 1: I was down there for like hours before anyone like

28
00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,000
Speaker 1: pulled me to talk like romantic Wait what Yeah, So

29
00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,080
Speaker 1: it was like probably like six five or six pm

30
00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,440
Speaker 1: by the time someone had pulled me to talk, and

31
00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,760
Speaker 1: I was there that morning. And so when I went

32
00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,040
Speaker 1: into this show, I was thinking, like, I just really

33
00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,400
Speaker 1: need someone intentional that is gonna show me that they

34
00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,600
Speaker 1: have interested in me, because usually it feels like I

35
00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,600
Speaker 1: have more interests in people than they have in me.

36
00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,720
Speaker 1: And so I just wanted someone to really like show

37
00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,959
Speaker 1: me that they were interested. And then this guy and

38
00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,400
Speaker 1: it's like you, I want to talk to you. Oh

39
00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,280
Speaker 1: that's so sweet. So Brendon was Serene on your list

40
00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,480
Speaker 1: of ladies you wanted to see in Paradise most definitely.

41
00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,160
Speaker 1: The funny part was like I kept seeing people go by,

42
00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,480
Speaker 1: like down to the beach, and I'm like, yo, like,

43
00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,920
Speaker 1: once I get down there, like everyone's talking to everyone,

44
00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,000
Speaker 1: everyone's probably coupled up, like I have to go just

45
00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,919
Speaker 1: like I have to bolt to the people who are

46
00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,320
Speaker 1: on my list, like I gotta talk to you. I

47
00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,560
Speaker 1: gotta talk to you that you and uh so a

48
00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,480
Speaker 1: little liquid courage and I came down the beach. I

49
00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,440
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm not wasting any time, like, hey,

50
00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,680
Speaker 1: let's go talk. He was almost like the last one though,

51
00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,240
Speaker 1: like and he was someone that I was like, okay,

52
00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,880
Speaker 1: like I really want to meet him. And so it

53
00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,079
Speaker 1: was just really tough. So there all day and then

54
00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,800
Speaker 1: like no one's talking to me, and then you just

55
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,360
Speaker 1: came right up. And then what I'm being told, it's like,

56
00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, everyone's making connections already, everyone's talking and I'm like,

57
00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,400
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Jesse, I appreciate you. So when you

58
00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,519
Speaker 1: saw her in real life, did you have a love

59
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,680
Speaker 1: at first first site moments? Oh? She was. She was

60
00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,320
Speaker 1: way more gorgeous in person than you know what I

61
00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,120
Speaker 1: saw a TV. So yeah, I'm pretty sure life just

62
00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,920
Speaker 1: bumbled my words. I went, you know, back to my

63
00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,600
Speaker 1: old self. I just got super corny. And then somehow

64
00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,400
Speaker 1: it word Serene. You talked to the past episode about

65
00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 1: how you felt he was intentional, and for you it

66
00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:51,080
Speaker 1: was always like a serious interest, but maybe not like love.

67
00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,720
Speaker 1: And you said that it grew with time, which I

68
00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,120
Speaker 1: know Brandon saw as a compliment and I know you

69
00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,480
Speaker 1: meant as a compliment. Um, But how does that kind

70
00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,720
Speaker 1: of love differ from the past kinds of love you've had? Yeah,

71
00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,520
Speaker 1: I think with Brandon early on we had a lot

72
00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,800
Speaker 1: of this serious talks to see like are we even compatible,

73
00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,279
Speaker 1: like do we want the same things in life? Obviously

74
00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,160
Speaker 1: we were attracted to each other and you know that

75
00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,679
Speaker 1: that came super naturally. But for me, what really stood

76
00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:30,640
Speaker 1: out was him opening his heart to me after kind

77
00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,240
Speaker 1: of going through something super tough, Like I wanted someone

78
00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,360
Speaker 1: that would be open with me and I've tried really

79
00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,720
Speaker 1: hard to remain open after you know, any field relationship,

80
00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,479
Speaker 1: and so for me, it felt like we were coming

81
00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,560
Speaker 1: from a place of understanding with each other. And like

82
00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,039
Speaker 1: I said, he was just so intentional with every little thing,

83
00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,320
Speaker 1: like every little opportunity he could show me that he cared,

84
00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,360
Speaker 1: he did, and you know, all the other stuff is

85
00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,120
Speaker 1: there too, But for me, that's what was different, and

86
00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,440
Speaker 1: that's what made it were of a gradual thing, because

87
00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,640
Speaker 1: it just felt like every day there was a little

88
00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,560
Speaker 1: bit more Brandon. You're also so emotional, and I can't

89
00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,880
Speaker 1: get over how sweet that is. How how did all

90
00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,320
Speaker 1: your friends and family what they think about you crying

91
00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,440
Speaker 1: on TV out of love so much roasted like because

92
00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm not like that, but I just really my dream

93
00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,600
Speaker 1: is that, like you get that emotional and passionate about everything.

94
00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,520
Speaker 1: Maybe no, maybe I want you to like reserve that

95
00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,400
Speaker 1: for the love of your life. Yeah, for that and

96
00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,080
Speaker 1: then never like like say the date that went on

97
00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,080
Speaker 1: when I teared up because I saw her like I've

98
00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,080
Speaker 1: never it was like soon. It's just like the show

99
00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,320
Speaker 1: was capturing all those moments, just like yeah, see. But

100
00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,800
Speaker 1: that's perfect for me though, because I've always like how

101
00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,039
Speaker 1: people try to play it so cool, and so the

102
00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,359
Speaker 1: fact that like you wear your heart on your sleeve,

103
00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,320
Speaker 1: and I always is know what you're feeling because I

104
00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,559
Speaker 1: know I'm not cool, and I just hope for the best.

105
00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:13,640
Speaker 1: You're like the perfect combination of cool and uncool to

106
00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,800
Speaker 1: any sense. You have swag, that's the thing. You have swag,

107
00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,960
Speaker 1: but you're also uncool, which is the perfect guy. It's

108
00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,640
Speaker 1: my swag, but dorky is out. Okay. So I want

109
00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,960
Speaker 1: to know the two moments Serene, When was the moment

110
00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,440
Speaker 1: that you were like, if this guy gets down on

111
00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,520
Speaker 1: one day, I'm saying yes, Oh gosh, it's so hard

112
00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,920
Speaker 1: to think of an exact moment, like it really is,

113
00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,320
Speaker 1: just because everything was so gradual and we had those

114
00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,920
Speaker 1: serious talks like very early on, like what are you

115
00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000
Speaker 1: here for? Like no one wanted to leave the other

116
00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:57,520
Speaker 1: person on. I don't know, maybe I think for me

117
00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,760
Speaker 1: maybe in like my like in the moment whenever we

118
00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,920
Speaker 1: came back from the Beat or from the Vedanta when

119
00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,200
Speaker 1: we were split up, we had already said we were

120
00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,040
Speaker 1: falling in love and so we were both re frustrated

121
00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,080
Speaker 1: and we're like, yeah, this is kind of wasting our time,

122
00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,960
Speaker 1: Like we have a lot to talk about still and

123
00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,480
Speaker 1: want to just like continue the growth that we've had.

124
00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,760
Speaker 1: And so I don't think that you like fully see

125
00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,920
Speaker 1: it on the show, but like the embrace was like crazy,

126
00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,880
Speaker 1: and he like I saw it. It was adorable. He

127
00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,680
Speaker 1: like runs me down to the water and he's like,

128
00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,960
Speaker 1: did you go on any dates? And I was like, no,

129
00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,240
Speaker 1: did you? And he was like, I love you. But

130
00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,640
Speaker 1: it was just like in that moment where like we reconnected,

131
00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,480
Speaker 1: and I mean we both were secure in our relationship,

132
00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,200
Speaker 1: but in that moment, like there was a lot more

133
00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,840
Speaker 1: to the conversation than we got to see. And so

134
00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,040
Speaker 1: I think maybe for me the waves are crashing in

135
00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,760
Speaker 1: the background, we were like half in the water. It

136
00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,680
Speaker 1: was it was they cut it all out, but it

137
00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,120
Speaker 1: was like we were I was laughing and I was

138
00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,080
Speaker 1: holding her and we were laughing together, and I was like, oh,

139
00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,640
Speaker 1: I missed you. She's like I missed you too. And

140
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,240
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, did you go on any dates?

141
00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,640
Speaker 1: She's like no, did you? I was like, no, I

142
00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:29,080
Speaker 1: love you. You see other people? Yeah? Right, Oh you guys,

143
00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,480
Speaker 1: that's adorable, Brandon. When did you know that you were

144
00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,360
Speaker 1: going to propose? When she drew exactly what rings she

145
00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,280
Speaker 1: wanted on the naption and said, if you see Neil,

146
00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,320
Speaker 1: let him know this is Oh that was kind of

147
00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,920
Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, like I get the hint. Now what

148
00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,440
Speaker 1: point was that? Oh? That was well that was after

149
00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,640
Speaker 1: after okay, and yeah, so we all got together and

150
00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,280
Speaker 1: she just like we were eating breakfast. It really wasn't

151
00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,000
Speaker 1: that ye and she was like she came up with

152
00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,760
Speaker 1: a napkin, she drew like it was like from the

153
00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:21,600
Speaker 1: left side, it looks like, yeah, and you got what

154
00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,240
Speaker 1: you wanted. I did perfect gorgeous. Well, Brandon, that's when

155
00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,079
Speaker 1: you knew that she was gonna say yes. But when

156
00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,920
Speaker 1: were you like, I gotta marry this woman. Oh when

157
00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,240
Speaker 1: I got to marry this woman. Oh when I saw

158
00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,560
Speaker 1: her coming from the date, like I teared up. I

159
00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,320
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I gotta there's no way, my heart,

160
00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:54,640
Speaker 1: my heart. You guys are seriously so sweet. So we

161
00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,840
Speaker 1: all saw your engagement coming for real, for real, you know,

162
00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,360
Speaker 1: like it was like the least surprising thing of Bachelor Nation,

163
00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,160
Speaker 1: like history basically. Um, and I have to say, I'm

164
00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,480
Speaker 1: not sure that I've ever seen a couple that I

165
00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,240
Speaker 1: felt so strong was going to not only get engaged,

166
00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:20,080
Speaker 1: but to be absolutely fine in real life. Then you guys, yeah, yeah, yeah,

167
00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,520
Speaker 1: we're just we're just like, this is the day we're

168
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,560
Speaker 1: like free. We can go out to dinner together, we

169
00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,360
Speaker 1: can like to walk in the park together, like you

170
00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,160
Speaker 1: want to walk down the street together. So today's the

171
00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,360
Speaker 1: first day you get to do that. What are the plans?

172
00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,360
Speaker 1: Step outside, literally, step outside, we'll just see where the

173
00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,199
Speaker 1: day goes. Now, we're gonna go on a date. We're

174
00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna go to dinner together. Yeah, like walking,

175
00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. We're just so excited

176
00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:59,520
Speaker 1: to just be I don't know anything. Okay, after your engagement,

177
00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,600
Speaker 1: Jesse walks up with a book and I go, oh god,

178
00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,120
Speaker 1: they're going to try to make them get married right now. No,

179
00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,960
Speaker 1: don't do this. As much as I want to see

180
00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000
Speaker 1: them get married, I want them to enjoy an engagement period,

181
00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,199
Speaker 1: and I want these two to have their family and

182
00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,680
Speaker 1: friends at their wedding. This is so unfair. Don't pressure

183
00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,600
Speaker 1: them into this. Did you have any thought that you

184
00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,080
Speaker 1: might do it or were you just like, oh heck no,

185
00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,880
Speaker 1: Like I know Brendon News you mentioned that you called

186
00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,480
Speaker 1: your mom and she said I'll kill you if you

187
00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,400
Speaker 1: do this. Did you call her in the moment or

188
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,680
Speaker 1: were you like, guess what funny thing they wanted us

189
00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,800
Speaker 1: to do? It was? It was? It was we both

190
00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,000
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we won't get married, but like, we're

191
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,000
Speaker 1: not getting married with you getting married without our period.

192
00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,320
Speaker 1: It's like, Jessie, I love you, but you're not my pops.

193
00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,720
Speaker 1: You know my mom like her family, and then yeah,

194
00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,640
Speaker 1: I called my mom. I was like, guess what they

195
00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,839
Speaker 1: just asked And I was like, Jesse came down with

196
00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,760
Speaker 1: an ordained book Like I was like, I think about

197
00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,679
Speaker 1: me getting married right now, and she's like, I'll kill you.

198
00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,560
Speaker 1: The boom boom room wasn't really used by anyone else

199
00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,760
Speaker 1: this year besides Jared and I, which makes me feel

200
00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,120
Speaker 1: incredibly awkward. But Bachelor data, the Instagram account has tracked

201
00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,240
Speaker 1: this and there's been no airing of boom boom room use.

202
00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,960
Speaker 1: Did you guys go the boom boom room? No, nobody did.

203
00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040
Speaker 1: Did you really? And why is that with your cast?

204
00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,360
Speaker 1: Because usually it's very frequently used. Honestly, I think for

205
00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,160
Speaker 1: thee of the people want to love, like, I think

206
00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,080
Speaker 1: it was like very daunting and people were afraid of

207
00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,679
Speaker 1: like how it would like shift things in the relationship

208
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,840
Speaker 1: or maybe how it would look. I think, for like

209
00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,160
Speaker 1: the whole cast, I think most people really just wanted

210
00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,000
Speaker 1: to focus on the important stuff, like just like really

211
00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,880
Speaker 1: getting to know each other and also not wanting to

212
00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,760
Speaker 1: add something else to the equation. I don't know, I

213
00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,280
Speaker 1: can't really speak to the people. Yeah, I think I

214
00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,800
Speaker 1: think it was like, also people we were the most

215
00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,559
Speaker 1: people don't concern to We're like, yeah, I'll do it,

216
00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,280
Speaker 1: But then does that help my chances if someone else

217
00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,800
Speaker 1: were to come down those steps but tryangle what I

218
00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,679
Speaker 1: get in, what I'd be in a deeper triangle. I

219
00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I think here we saw a lot of

220
00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,920
Speaker 1: like sticky situations in season seven that I'm sure sure yeah,

221
00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:25,920
Speaker 1: maybe people were like yeah, yeah, definitely last season it

222
00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,320
Speaker 1: was it was a complicated point of complication for sure. Okay,

223
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,520
Speaker 1: now I got to ask you about the other couples.

224
00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,440
Speaker 1: What do you make of the whole Johnny in Victory situation?

225
00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,280
Speaker 1: How awkward was it to watch that showdown at the reunion?

226
00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,360
Speaker 1: So we actually didn't see it? You didn't you're aware

227
00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,120
Speaker 1: of it? Yeah, yeah, we're close to them. I think

228
00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,920
Speaker 1: ultimately we just want them both to be happy, and

229
00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,720
Speaker 1: if they're happier separately, like we just it is literally

230
00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,840
Speaker 1: coincidence that I was closest with Victoria of Beach and

231
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:06,560
Speaker 1: then he was close with Johnny, and we haven't really doubles, um,

232
00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360
Speaker 1: so I think just both of us looking at our

233
00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160
Speaker 1: friends and seeing like okay, like if you're deciding this

234
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,400
Speaker 1: isn't working for you, then you know, we want you

235
00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,320
Speaker 1: to be happy. We just want them happy. Um, I

236
00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,280
Speaker 1: don't think Greg should have been there. I think you

237
00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 1: should have just been them too, yeah, working it out.

238
00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,360
Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, we just want them happy.

239
00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640
Speaker 1: We love them both. So yeah, why would you feel

240
00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:34,320
Speaker 1: specifically about Greg being there? I just I just I

241
00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,560
Speaker 1: think he's a great guy and everything. Awesome guy. But

242
00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,840
Speaker 1: I just I just think it was like a moment

243
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960
Speaker 1: for them to like kind of have stuff out. I

244
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,760
Speaker 1: don't think he needed to be there necessarily, you know,

245
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,640
Speaker 1: I can't speak on him. Maybe Victoria needed support or whatever. Sure,

246
00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,160
Speaker 1: that's why it was so um, but I just think,

247
00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, in that moment, you know, if if we

248
00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,080
Speaker 1: were you and you had a new guy and I

249
00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,400
Speaker 1: was there, it kind of hurt me even more than

250
00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:06,200
Speaker 1: what I'm going through. So yeah, I'm just for sure

251
00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,320
Speaker 1: it is a dagger. When you guys sat down at

252
00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,160
Speaker 1: that dinner with Victoria and Johnny before Fantasy Suites, did

253
00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,680
Speaker 1: you feel like they were ready for engagement? Did you

254
00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,960
Speaker 1: feel like they were on the same level as you guys. Um,

255
00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,360
Speaker 1: I thought that they were ready. Yeah. Really, yeah, I

256
00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,840
Speaker 1: think you know, they had some more stuff to work out.

257
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,440
Speaker 1: There was a lot we didn't know about like during

258
00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:36,480
Speaker 1: that time, like what just like any any um like uncertainty.

259
00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,160
Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh my gosh, Johnny's like head

260
00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,600
Speaker 1: of reveals for her. He's gonna propose, Like I didn't

261
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,560
Speaker 1: know that there was any like you know, you kind

262
00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,760
Speaker 1: of seen his interviews He's like, I don't know, there's

263
00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,160
Speaker 1: a big commitment. I know what she wants, but like,

264
00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,040
Speaker 1: am I ready for it? Like is it something that

265
00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,800
Speaker 1: you know anyone's ever ready for? Like do people just

266
00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, so you like watch these thoughts play out

267
00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,880
Speaker 1: in his interview, and you know it kind of like

268
00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,760
Speaker 1: makes a little more sin No. But I think at

269
00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,720
Speaker 1: the time, we thought that they were ready, and you know,

270
00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,680
Speaker 1: we spent time with him. That was really cool. We

271
00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,960
Speaker 1: got to spend time with him like as a couple

272
00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,400
Speaker 1: to after that and we thought, you know, we're gonna

273
00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,200
Speaker 1: be hanging out for years. M hmm. But yeah, I

274
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,680
Speaker 1: thought I thought they were ready. And plus she was

275
00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,760
Speaker 1: changing Johnny for the best, Like because I hung out

276
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,520
Speaker 1: with Johnny a lot and he was like, I don't

277
00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,040
Speaker 1: want to go home with daughter, And I was like you,

278
00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean you don't have to, So Shad, let's talk

279
00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:37,920
Speaker 1: about Rodney and Eliza. Everybody was so distraught about that breakup,

280
00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,200
Speaker 1: and then it looked like a lies. I kind of

281
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,800
Speaker 1: wanted to get back with him. At the reunion, I

282
00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,120
Speaker 1: personally was glad that he was like I wish you

283
00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,600
Speaker 1: the best, which is kind of like a passive aggressive phrase.

284
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,280
Speaker 1: I was tossed around a lot this season. What's your take?

285
00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,720
Speaker 1: I think, first of all, I didn't even cry during

286
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,480
Speaker 1: my own breakup on Bachelor, and I cried like when

287
00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,720
Speaker 1: all this, I was like, like, we all just love

288
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,600
Speaker 1: Ronnie so much, so that was hard to watch. I

289
00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:14,520
Speaker 1: think ultimately we we understood from the start, like everyone

290
00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 1: has a choice. I think what made it so heart

291
00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,720
Speaker 1: wrenching is that he thought he was in the clear,

292
00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,840
Speaker 1: like he had the rose, and yeah, I thought we

293
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,800
Speaker 1: can move on from this, like two day's a new day,

294
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,720
Speaker 1: and that's all he was talking about all day long.

295
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,600
Speaker 1: So to just like watch that happen, it was really tough. Um,

296
00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 1: that's part of the reunion I wish I got to see.

297
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 1: I think it's messy. I think Ronnie did an amazing

298
00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,359
Speaker 1: job holding standing to his ground. Yeah, I think it's messy.

299
00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,119
Speaker 1: I don't think, Hey, you leave Ronnie, go to Justin.

300
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,440
Speaker 1: Justin ended up not wanting to be with you. Then

301
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,840
Speaker 1: you try to come back to Rude. I think it's messy.

302
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,080
Speaker 1: I think at that point you need to sit down,

303
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, words, stuff out, heal yourself, and then you

304
00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,359
Speaker 1: know that person will ride. And I think that's what

305
00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,800
Speaker 1: Ronnie's doing. So, yeah, he's doing great, He's alright. The

306
00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,159
Speaker 1: final question that I want to ask you about is

307
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: Tyler and Brittany. I love Brittany. When I was there,

308
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,359
Speaker 1: really like felt a kinship to her, and something just

309
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 1: seems to be missing from the explanation of her breakup

310
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,639
Speaker 1: with Tyler. You guys have any insight. I think maybe

311
00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,679
Speaker 1: it's just that they live in different places and have

312
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,199
Speaker 1: different lives. Like it's one of those things where you

313
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,520
Speaker 1: know it was great in theory, but then you get

314
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,960
Speaker 1: to the real world and there are all these obstacles

315
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 1: that you have to overcome as a couple. All right, Well,

316
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. Please go enjoy newlywed. Yeah,

317
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it newlywed bliss. All right, that's what

318
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 1: it feels like. Newly released from the Bachelor Vault bliss

319
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 1: and who's who's having Thanksgiving with? Who he's going to

320
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 1: my family? And okay, nice? All right, Well, I hope

321
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,800
Speaker 1: you have the most magical Thanksgiving and family time and

322
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,400
Speaker 1: you guys just live it up. Thank you so much.

323
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 1: We're so so thrilled for you. You have a good

324
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,639
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to Okay, we will tell Jared I listened to

325
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh we will, we will, we all tell him they Hey.

326
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,199
Speaker 1: Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on

327
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.