1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The Center for Immigration Studies recently found that the United 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: States now has a population of thirteen point seven million 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, up thirty seven percent under Joe Biden. Now 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: that averages about one hundred and seventy two thousand new 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: immigrants each month, or roughly four times the rate in 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: the Trump years, nearly three times the rate in the 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Obama years. The foreign born or immigration population, both legal 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: and illegal, in the United States is now at a 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: high of fifty one point four million, fifteen point five 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: percent of the population. That surpasses all previous records. So 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: why are we allowing this? Why is Joe Biden allowing this, 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: allowing an open border, allowing these illegal aliens to come 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: into the United States? And who are these people? And 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: now because of Joe Biden, there are new threats of 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: gangs coming into the United States, particularly one from Venezuela. 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: It's called Trend de Aragua. We're gonna have Julio Rosas 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: come on the show to tell us about this gang, 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: what you should know, what we already know, and what 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: he has learned through his investigation. Julio, it's great to 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 1: have you on this show. So we were talking before 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 1: we came on and you were saying you were bummed 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: that you weren't able to make it to New York 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: for the protest against the Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, and 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Barack Obama fundraiser, and I was like, I think you're 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: the only person who's disappointed. 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: To not be in the midst of that kind of chaos. 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: So, but we're fortunate to have you because you're able 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: to let us know what goes on at these things. 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm not keen to the only thing 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: in that regard, I don't like going to New York 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: City just in general. So definitely it takes it takes 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: these these crazy things to kind of get me out there. 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: So you know, well, but you know that's you're able 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: to bring us you know what's happening on the ground, 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: which is really important because there's a lot of chaos 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: going on in the country and around the world, and 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: that's what we're going to get into today. But before 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: we get into some of the stuff that's happening on 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: the southern border and the consequences of Joe Biden's open borders, 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: you were at the Kyle Rittenhouse event. I believe it was, 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: was it last night or the night before, what did 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: you see? What was that like to cover? Kind of 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: break that down for us a little bit. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: So this recent one on yeah, Wednesday night, that was 45 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, and that was 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: the second protest I've covered in relation to Kylerit and 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: House showing up to provide his side of the story. 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: The first one was in Memphis at the University of Memphis, 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: and in both of those, it's just funny because if 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: you would have told me all the way back in 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, after you know, witnessing him do his self defense, 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: that you know, you know, or four years later, we're 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: going to be he's gonna be on tour and and people, 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: a large number of people are still going to believe 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: and you know, make these claims saying that he's a 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: white supremacist, he's a terrorist, he's a murderer, he's all 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: these things, and that's why he shouldn't be allowed to 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: speak on campus. I would have said that that actually 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: makes sense, that actually tracks given what we saw that 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: that year, because it's just crazy, it's really crazy that 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: the Writtenhouse case is really i mean, it's a litmus test, 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: almost an IQ test, and actually because the trial shouldn't 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: have happened, you know. But the only good thing about 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: it is that it laid everything out and play in 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: detail from start to finish. And you cannot go, you know, 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: you can't look at that, at that whole trial with 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: an open mind and not come overay with the fact that, Okay, 68 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: he shot in sell defense. You know, whether or not 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: he shouldn't have been there, whether or not you thought 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: he was stupid or not, Okay, fine, you know whatever. 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: You can think about that in whatever way you want to, 72 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: but that doesn't take away his right self defense. 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: And that's what happened that night. 74 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: And so going into now the college scene, which is 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: the incubators for the far left, it's crazy. It's crazy 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: seeing all these people just twist themselves into into these 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: mind mental gymnastic games that allows them to say, yes, 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: he shot three white people, but he's still a danger 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 3: to black people. I mean, that's what people were saying 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: at the University of Western Kentucky. They're saying that he 81 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: represents it's not just danger to black people, but the 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: Latinos and Asians and everything, even though again he's shown 83 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: that that's not what he subscribes to at all, and 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: so I think it's important for him to start these dialogues. 85 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: I would say to the WKU protesters, like to their credit, 86 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: they actually did allow him to speak at the inside 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: the venue. I mean, sure, kind of got at a 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: little rowdy, but I mean the University of Memphis crowd, 89 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: they just shouted him down. They just trying to disrupt 90 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: it as much as they can. So we'll see what 91 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: happens at Kent State University next month. 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: I'll be there to cover that. 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: And obviously, with the history of Kent State, with the 94 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: Vietnam War and the protests and the National Guard killings, 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: people are getting fired up again about that, even though 96 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 3: those are two completely different things in my opinion. But 97 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: it just shows that this case, it didn't have to 98 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: get as controversial as it did, but it was because 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: of how created the twenty twenty was, but also just 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: because the mainstream media really did a disservice and reporting 101 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: the truth on what happened, and it also extended to 102 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: the trial as well. Well. 103 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: And it's also, you know, kind of interesting for you 104 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: to be, you know, covering his sort of speaking tour 105 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and going around because that's really kind of how you 106 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you made a name for yourself before, but 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, you wrote the book Fiery but mostly Peaceful. 108 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: You were on the ground in Kenosha when you know 109 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: all the chaos, you know, so you've really kind of 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: been following the story from the beginning. So I'm sure 111 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: that's interesting to kind of sort of like coming full 112 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: circle in some way, you know. 113 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: But so I want to shift. 114 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: To the Southern border because I know you've been following 115 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: some gang activity that we're seeing as a result of 116 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: the Southern border. I know that the US Border Chief 117 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Jason Owens recently said that the US has encountered migrants 118 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: from one hundred and sixty countries or more, which is outrageous, 119 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: and we're seeing a lot of gang activity as a 120 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: result of that break that down for us, you know. 121 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: What are you seeing? 122 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: What kind of gangs is Joe Biden allowing into the country, 123 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: and what sort of threat does that pose to all 124 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: of us? 125 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: So historically, the main Latin American gangs that we have 126 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: encountered prior to the bidendministration has been the Mexican Cartels 127 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: MS thirteen, more Central American because obviously Central Americans right 128 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: next door to us, compared to the rest of the world, 129 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: but because of a lot of Venezuelans have started to 130 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: come in around twenty twenty two. As a result of that, 131 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: there's there's a gang called Trenda Aga and Agua is 132 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: a state within the country of Venezuela where the gang 133 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: comes from, but it is nationwide over there, and it's 134 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why it's so powerful is because 135 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: it works hand in hand with the Maduro regime. They 136 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: kind of act like their street enforcers. If the regime 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: doesn't want, whatever actions that they want them to do 138 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: come back to them directly, and so they I mean, 139 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: any criminal activity you name it, extortion, kidnappings, killings, human trafficking, 140 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: human smuggling, rug smuggling, arms trafficking, all like all that 141 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: they've controlled the market there. And so because Venezuelans have 142 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: been leaving the country for over a decade because of 143 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: the failed state that it is, the gang members have 144 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: followed them to other countries in Latin America, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil. 145 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: There was a killing in Chile recently, and. 146 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: So, of course when all of Venezuelans started leaving South 147 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: America and coming to our border, because it's open, and 148 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: because the Bide administration is allowing them into the country 149 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: the way that they are, trend that Agua members have 150 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: also come in and then fairly large numbers. 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: And so. 152 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: I was hearing about this back in October, back in 153 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: October November, and no. 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: One was talking about it nationwide. No one was talking 155 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: about it. 156 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: And the good and bad of them getting national attention 157 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: is because it had to take those two NYPD officers 158 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: in Times Square getting beat up by that camp, by 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: that mob, and two of those that were involved, two 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: of them were trend Agua members, and that's when people 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: started to realize, like, oh, this is like, this is real. 162 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: This isn't just kind of rumors within the migrant community. 163 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, the TVA members have been 164 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: in the country for a little bit now, but they're 165 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: solidifying their gains. They have now kind of adapted to 166 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: the new environment and they're kind of seeing what. 167 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: They can get away with. 168 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: And that's why it's very disturbing when then you combine 169 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: that with the relaxed criminal justice or law and order 170 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: policies and laws that New York City has and other 171 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: sanctuary cities, and they're seeing how much that they can 172 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: really kind of get away with. In Chicago, it's dealing 173 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: with the same thing too, with the theft rings. TVA 174 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: members have been linked to that, and then of course, 175 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: tragically the Lincoln Riley case UGA is also kind of 176 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: connected to that because the guy's brother, the guy who 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: is accused of murdering her. 178 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: His brother is a TVA member. 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: And so this is a direct result of the policies 180 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: that the Biomeenstration has pursued since they won, and people 181 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: have been warning about it for a while, and of 182 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: course people were saying, oh, well, you're just fear monitoring, 183 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: you're just being racist, You're just scared of brown people, 184 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: which is no. There are some very dangerous people within 185 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: Latin America, and unlike MS thirteen, the thing that makes 186 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: TDA a little bit different is that, unlike MS thirteen, 187 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: they don't tattoo their faces. They don't cover themselves in tattoos. 188 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: So it's it's much harder for them to be recognized 189 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: when they turn themselves into border patrol to be processed 190 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: because some of them have tattoos, a lot of them don't, 191 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: and the ones that do have tattoos, it's not it 192 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: doesn't screen gang affiliation and so and then of course 193 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, we don't have good relationships with Venezuela, so 194 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: we can't. It's not like we can run a background 195 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: check on them with shared law enforcement intelligence. And then 196 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: on top of that, recently Venezuela is flexing their muscle 197 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: and saying that you're telling the American government you cannot 198 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: deport Venezuelans back to back to their country. You can't 199 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: deport them back here because of course they don't want 200 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: they don't want DDA members back and they want it 201 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: to be America's problem. So I mean, this is just 202 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: such a wrecked line from where this wasn't an issue 203 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: before twenty twenty one, and now it's becoming a very 204 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: big issue. And my warning is from what I've learned 205 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: through my reporting, is that TDA is just getting started. 206 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: We'll take a quick commercial break more with Julio on 207 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: the other side, they come here and as you pointed out, 208 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: you know, we don't talk to Venezuela, so we don't know, 209 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: and as as you pointed out, they don't want them 210 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: coming back. And then the only way to know is 211 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: if they're on interpool or with other countries prior to 212 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: come to the US or they have some sort of 213 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: criminal record here, but then we can't support them. So 214 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: we're stuck with these dangerous gang members. 215 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: Are they more dangerous than MS thirteen? 216 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Would you say or you know kind of what you 217 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: know sort of we know what do we know about 218 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: like sort of the pattern of violence. 219 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: I would say they're on par I mean, it's it 220 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: is kind of hard to be more dangerous. 221 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: Sneinister thing. 222 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: I'd say that they're at the same I'd say they're 223 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: at the same level, which is which is great, right 224 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: for for for us. 225 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: One. 226 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: I talked to a former Venezuelan police officer who actually 227 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: worked in at Agua and kind of saw their rise 228 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: back in the nineties UH, and he said that their 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 3: initiation ritual was to UH was to have their new 230 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: members steal a gun from a police officer and shoot 231 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: him with it. It's andy. They do all sorts of 232 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: kind of intimidation tactics. They do kind of the same 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: UH dismemberments, the same beheadings that MS thirteen kind of does. 234 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: So the good thing with what Bukel has. 235 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: Done in Al Salvador is that he's greatly obviously he's 236 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: greatly diminished MS thirteen's capability to carry out their their 237 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: their empire, both in Al Salvador and here in the 238 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: United States. But then the problem is that TDA is 239 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: now filling those roles here in the country. So MS thirteen, yes, 240 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: this obviously can still be a problem in certain areas 241 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: within the United States, but because their power has been 242 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: so really diminished, TDA is kind of filling. 243 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: In their their there that that vacuum. 244 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Well, and one thing, you know, we have something like 245 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: border Patrol has reported, you know, one point over one 246 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: point five million encounters at the southern border according to 247 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: the most recent Tallly of numbers just through fiscal year 248 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So you know how many of these 249 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: people are getting in amidst that kind of chaos. 250 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: It's a lot. 251 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean, so Venezuelan that that country has represented hundreds 252 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: of thousands of people over the course of these past 253 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: few years. 254 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: And so. 255 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: Obviously not every single Venezuelan who's who's coming illegally is 256 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: a TDA member. But but just like I said, this 257 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: was the main gang in Venezuela. It was a big 258 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: gang in other countries of Latin America. And so you know, 259 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: you don't need hundreds of thousands of gang members to 260 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 3: cause havock, right, I mean, you only need, you know, 261 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: a couple hundred and these different cities to start wreaking havoc. 262 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: And so now, unfortunately, from from what my understanding, it's 263 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: it's a little bit more than a couple hundred. 264 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: And that is partly. 265 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: Because the gang controlled a prison in Agua, and it 266 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: wasn't even like a prison. It was kind of you know, 267 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: remember how Pabula Escobar had his quote unquote prison, but 268 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: it was really just like a resort that he couldn't leave. 269 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was basically. 270 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: Uh, that was basically the prison in at Agua. And 271 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: so the Venezuelan government did last year, late last year, 272 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: did this raid on the prison. No one died, there 273 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: was no firefight, and it was it's believed that the 274 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: TVA leaders negotiated that Okay, well we can leave, we 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: can escape, and we'll give you control of the prison 276 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: without any bloodshed. I mean, there was a pool, there's 277 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: a zoo, Their girlfriends and wives were basically living there. 278 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: There's even a recording studio for like to make their songs. 279 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: I mean, so that's how much power that they had. 280 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Say that says something about the gang that you know, 281 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: the governments like, we don't really want, you know, to 282 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: mix it up with you guys. 283 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: Right, And so then the question is were their leaders 284 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: and it suspected that some of them have made their 285 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: way into the US, and so this is this is 286 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: very very concerning, and of course this is just one gang, 287 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: one major gang. There was another report recently that a 288 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: Colombian cartel member recently was apprehended within the United States 289 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: and you know, came in through the open border and 290 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: all that. So, yes, I would say TDA presents the 291 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: most current threat in regards to the border crisis and 292 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: the gang. But like you said, over one hundred and 293 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: sixty countries have been represented at our southern border. 294 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,239 Speaker 4: And even our northern border, and. 295 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: You know, we don't know, we don't have great relations 296 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: with all one hundred and sixty countries that we can 297 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: perform background checks and like actually vet these people that 298 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: are coming through. So that's just a consequence of when 299 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: you have people being able to just waltz right in 300 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: and then get released and then kind of disappear into 301 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: the bureaucracy of the immigration system. 302 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: Well, and then there's the element of you know, FBI 303 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: Director for Christopher Ray recently warned that, you know, known 304 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: and suspected terrorists are using fake identification across the southern border. 305 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: So I would assume that's the same for a lot 306 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: of these gangs and cartel members as well. 307 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the really disturbing part is that some of 308 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: these people have were are known because oh well, we 309 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: actually process them back in twenty twenty two or twenty 310 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: twenty three, and then they go out and can make 311 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: crimes because they're a gang member. That doesn't even begin 312 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: to touch on the godaways, which are at their highest 313 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: levels ever in recent history at least. So even though 314 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: we're having these quote unquote encounters and everything, we're having 315 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: so many more people who are slipping. 316 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: Through the cracks. 317 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: And that's why we're you know, it's no coincidence that 318 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: we're seeing this explosion in illegal immigrant crime because when 319 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: you have again we have millions of people coming through 320 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: this coming through our country through this way, there's gonna 321 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: be a lot of bad apples that are able to 322 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: take advantage of that and kind of live it up. 323 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 4: I mean, there's that there's that. 324 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 3: Migrant influencer on TikTok that that's made headlines recently, and 325 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 3: he's he's giving them advice on how to take advantage 326 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: of of our of our country. And sure, he's like 327 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: the only kind of public one, but I can assure 328 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: you there's a lot of people who are who are 329 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: kind of listening to him and and following his his 330 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: his advice. So, I mean, everything is just so topsy turvy. 331 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: It's just like, is this really what our country is 332 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: going to become? Is just people foreigners are going to 333 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: take advantage of of our way of life. And it's 334 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: you know, it seems that it's been that way for 335 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: a while. And you know, we'll see what happens with 336 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 3: this election this year, but we're very much, even just 337 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: on just this issue, we're on a very bad long term. 338 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, why wouldn't they, right when we've allowed them, 339 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: when it's been so easy for them to already manipulate 340 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: the system to take advantage of the United States, why 341 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't they continue doing so right? 342 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: Right? 343 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: And that's why that is a huge pull factor because 344 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: people have said, well, these people are fleeing a lot 345 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: of bad places, and yes, those are what you know, 346 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: what we call the push factors, that is, that is 347 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: what's going to push people out. But when you have 348 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: the American government, the federal government signal for years that 349 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: you can come illegally and you can get released and 350 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: you probably won't get deported, and if you do, we'll 351 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: be five ten years. I mean, that is going to 352 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: be a huge incentive for people that are already kind 353 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: of being pushed out internally within within their country of origin. 354 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: So yes, obviously the border hasn't been perfect, it never 355 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 3: will be, but the United States government is making it 356 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: ten times worse under the current leadership. 357 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: Quick break more than Venezuelan gang. You've spent a lot 358 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: of time at the Southern border, you know, on the ground. 359 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: Does the coverage that you see you know? 360 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean obviously there's people like Built Millusian who's done 361 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: a fantastic job covering the southern border. Do you think 362 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: people truly understand just from you know, watching the news, 363 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: reading the news, what's really happening at the southern border? 364 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: Two years ago, I would say no, But now I 365 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: would say yes because it is just so in their face. 366 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: I mean again, when you look at all the sanctuary 367 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: cities and what they've had to do to try to 368 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: accommodate all these people. 369 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: Because they're so beholden to their progressive policies. 370 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: People are really seeing, oh wow, there's a lot of 371 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: new people here, and we're spending all this money on them, 372 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: and they're decreasing the quality of life, yeah overall. And 373 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: so I really think I thought that in the twenty 374 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: twenty two midterms. I thought the border VIIs immigration issue 375 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: was going to have a larger impact on the outcome. 376 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: But that didn't really happen. And that's because we didn't 377 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: really reach the crescendo or the tipping point until the 378 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 3: summer of last year, right, I mean that's when New 379 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 3: York City, Chicago, Denver were really saying, Hey, too many 380 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 3: people are coming, We're spending too much money, so therefore 381 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: we got to do We've got to different funds, we 382 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: gotta do all this. And people are really waking up 383 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: to oh wow, this is going this is starting to 384 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: impact me now. So and it took a while. Like 385 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: I said, this started in twenty twenty one, but we 386 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: didn't have those millions of people in the country yet, 387 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: so it had to take time to build up. And 388 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: then with end a Agua, it took them a while 389 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: to get into the country, to get a lay of 390 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: the land, to figure out, okay, how can we set 391 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: up our operations here? 392 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: And now they're in their execution phage. 393 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Well, and Julio, you're always doing really great work. Where 394 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: can people continue to follow what you're doing and to 395 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: get these kinds of updates so they. 396 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: Can subscribe to my substack mostly live. They can also 397 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: find me on x at Julio Underscore Rosas eleven. 398 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 4: You know, we'll see what happens this year. 399 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: I think everyone's kind of expecting maybe not an exact 400 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: repeat of twenty twenty, but I mean we're definitely trending 401 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: in that direction as well. So I mean I hate 402 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, verbalize what we're kind of 403 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: all thinking, but the country is turning into a power 404 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: keg again, and so I suspect that I will continue 405 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: to be very busy over the next couple of years. 406 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: Well, we'll continue to have you on. You do great work, 407 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you making. 408 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: Time for us. 409 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you. 410 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: That was Julio Rosas. 411 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: He's always putting himself in harm's way to bring us 412 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: the news. He's also a friend, so appreciate him making 413 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: the time every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen 414 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: throughout the week. I'll also want to think John Cassio 415 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: and my producer for putting the show together. 416 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: Until next time.