WEBVTT - Draft Show: Boom or Bust Potential

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys liked d Lambs again, No, your host, Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Yeoman's It's say Tuesday edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com Draft Show, presented by Miller lightlive from the Star

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<v Speaker 1>in Frisco. Glad you're with us. Kyle Yeoman's with you

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<v Speaker 1>with an whole new crack cast of characters, and a

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<v Speaker 1>fun one at that, And I think this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a great hour for those of you listening because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Brian brought us, David Hellman, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the great Jeff Capito. I was gonna say something about

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<v Speaker 1>our Darius Washington there, but I decided not to because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we'll probably mention him at some point

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the show. But gentlemen, glad you're with us here

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<v Speaker 1>on this Tuesday. I want to give a quick shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Chris Beams Baylor Bears. How about that. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>is in the back, of course, punch in the buttons

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<v Speaker 1>as always, and the Bailor Bears are national champions. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course Chris Beam a huge Baylor fan. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>there he is. And also he won our Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>media bracket too because he picked the Baylor Bears. So

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<v Speaker 1>double cut. Congratulations for Chris Beam. But it's almost draft time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting close as the twenty nine is on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian, I mean this is right around the time

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it last week with smoke screens. But

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<v Speaker 1>you also start kind of hearing rumors as to who

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<v Speaker 1>guys are liking and who is starting to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stick out from the pack around the NFL. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're learning which one your friends are just liars? Is

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<v Speaker 1>really what you're learning right now. And yeah, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, it's interesting that the way the teams

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<v Speaker 1>are meeting and how they're getting together, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that you know, we need to continue to monitor,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And they're like, I could say, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys out there in gals too that you

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<v Speaker 1>could talk to. They'll say, you know, these are the

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<v Speaker 1>these are the clumps of guys that we have. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the areas that we have where guys are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on our boards and stuff. You might not

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<v Speaker 1>get the order from everybody, but you'll have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of where the different tiers are. And you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's you know, it's an exciting time too,

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<v Speaker 1>when you could set your board and you'll have an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we'll see what the medical information all brings.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're going to start doing this for real here

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<v Speaker 1>and about, you know, another three weeks or so, and

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<v Speaker 1>that will be an exciting time for everybody. Dave, have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard anything from throughout the building about maybe somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>where the Cowboys could potentially be leaning. I mean, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I have. The only question for me is what does

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<v Speaker 1>that wind up looking like when it's all said and done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know we're going to get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but just as soon as you feel like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a grasp on everything, I mean, it shouldn't surprise anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys are really setting their sights on

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<v Speaker 1>defensive players. If you didn't know that already, just consider

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<v Speaker 1>all the stops we've seen Dan Quinn making at Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Days over the last two weeks. Yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, Jess, when you think you've got your

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<v Speaker 1>hands are out Carolina trades for a quarterback and now

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of got to shuffle what you might think

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<v Speaker 1>the order is. And at the very least, at least

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are picking tenth, so there's only so much

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<v Speaker 1>that can happen in front of them. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in light of that news, it definitely makes you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if the defender that you covet is still going to

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<v Speaker 1>be sitting there like we maybe thought last week. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about that a little bit, because I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about how that kind of shakes things

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<v Speaker 1>up when it comes to the draft order. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course Carolina the draft order itself is not switching, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could take a team that was potentially going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a quarterback in the top ten and pluck them

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<v Speaker 1>right out of the quarterback sweepstakes. Jeff, do you agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that? And do you think Sam Darnold is enough

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe eliminate Carolina as one of those quarterbacks seeking

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<v Speaker 1>teams or is this going to be a team that

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<v Speaker 1>still might look for that quarterback of the future. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my best guess, and what I think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen with Carolina is that they are they're picking up

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth year option, at least reportedly on Sam Darnold.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're locking in for two years of Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 1>after they locked in for multiple years of Teddy Bridgewater,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to pull the rip cord on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mike gut is that despite the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>should be interested in quarterback, that they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in quarterback in the top eight picks. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think Carolina is now going to come into play

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<v Speaker 1>for guys like Kyle Pitts, the receivers, Pinney Sewell, Rashawn Slater,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the corners, you name it. And Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>is now a team that you thought was going to

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<v Speaker 1>help drive non quarterbacks down to you, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take one from in front of you. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they should because I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, regardless of how bad his circumstances were in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, don't think a guy that's been the worst

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback in the league for three years should be

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<v Speaker 1>considered the savior of your franchise. But just based on

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<v Speaker 1>picking up that fifth year option, they're gonna be tied

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<v Speaker 1>to him for two years monetarily. I think they're rolling

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<v Speaker 1>with Sam Darnold, So they're they're gonna steal one of

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<v Speaker 1>your players. Yeah, I think that if you go back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Joe Brady being the offensive coordinator, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>able to work magic with quarterbacks. He's a young offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on the National Championship staff at LSU with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with what they were able to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrows. So you know, maybe this is what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what Sam Darnold I've guys, I've got. Carolina is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those teams you know, you've get a new general

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<v Speaker 1>manager there the situation they're in, there's I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>three teams in front of you that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>potentially can move. Atlanta is a team that I think

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<v Speaker 1>can move. I think Carolina now can move, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that Denver Broncos could move. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>all those picks will be for sale. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's the danger that you know, you're so

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<v Speaker 1>locked into looking at defensive players, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep an open mind if you're the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>right now, because the guy that you absolutely cove it

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<v Speaker 1>could be gone at either one of those picks that

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<v Speaker 1>I just talked about. Somebody could go up and make

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<v Speaker 1>an offer to Carolina gets some You know, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>team that needs players. You know, Denver needs players, Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>needs players. You know, new general managers want to make

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<v Speaker 1>a splash. You know, those the guys you have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about. And those are the three teams I would

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<v Speaker 1>surely if I was sitting in the Cowboys war room

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<v Speaker 1>right now, those are the teams that I would be

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<v Speaker 1>worried about potentially trading away in one of my picks,

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<v Speaker 1>going away or even I mean, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a stretch to say that that could happen, even if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't trade. I mean the you know, Jeff just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of outlined it, and you did too. The Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>could probably use a little bit of everything. I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they franchise tagged one of their tackles, but

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like that falls in your lap, absolutely worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cornerback is one of their big tree pre draft needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Will have kind of been ignoring it because of the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback need. But if they're not going to do that

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you know, eight is definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>spot where I think you could take the best cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>in this class, and then you know, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do Kyle Pitts, but I think Carolina would probably

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<v Speaker 1>love to have Kyle Pitts. I think Atlanta would probably

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<v Speaker 1>love to have Kyle Pits. So it's definitely you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we do this every year. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>where the Cowboys pick, you're always paranoid that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be wiped out. But for some reason, this trade

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<v Speaker 1>makes me think it's at least feasible because it is

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<v Speaker 1>one less team that's looking at a quarterback, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. I mean, if I could wave a

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<v Speaker 1>magic wand I would wish for five quarterbacks to go

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<v Speaker 1>off the board in the top ten because that's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>helping the Cowboys, and it doesn't seem as likely today

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<v Speaker 1>as it did before the trade yesterday. Now, we were

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<v Speaker 1>originally going to do this in the last segment, but

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to flip flop things on the

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<v Speaker 1>rundown for you guys. But you mentioned nightmare scenario there, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of want to Brian sent a text

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<v Speaker 1>message in our group and it's one through nine the

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<v Speaker 1>picks in order this would be the nightmare scenario. Then

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<v Speaker 1>where would you go at ten if you were the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. I'm gonna read these off in order. The

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<v Speaker 1>first three are really kind of what we've expected, at

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<v Speaker 1>least the first two. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson BYU quarterbacks. Matt Jones is the third pick. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put in slate in. Justin Fields is the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth pick to Atlanta. Fifth is Pina Soul, offensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>out of Oregon. Rashawn Slater goes six to Miami out

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<v Speaker 1>of Northwestern. Patrick Curtan goes to the Lions at seven,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a bit of a surprise, but the draft

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<v Speaker 1>is full of them. Then you've got Trey Lance, or

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Trey Lance was not drafted at eight. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>it was Kyle Pitts, tight end Florida drafted at a

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<v Speaker 1>JC Horn drafted nine. So Lawrence, Wilson, Jones, Pitts, Seuls, Slater, Curtan,

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<v Speaker 1>Pits or excuse me, Pitts whatever throwing fields up there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Lance is still on the board. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Horn there as well. I know I butchered

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<v Speaker 1>that because I'm reading it straight off of this page.

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<v Speaker 1>But out of those players that's still available, where would

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Brian, if you're the Dallas Cowboys at that point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you're kind of in a tough situation

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<v Speaker 1>there because then you're two likely two best corners are

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<v Speaker 1>off the board with Certan and then Horn as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know me personally, I feel like that they would

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<v Speaker 1>probably go you know, all those wide receivers are available.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if it would go that route again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And and it would be very very inviting

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<v Speaker 1>if you said, okay, we'll take the best player. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase might have the highest grade on your board at

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<v Speaker 1>that point in time, and you know, when you got

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<v Speaker 1>Wattle and Smith and others, you know, I wonder, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they would take a linebacker there. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is the scenario. I think you have to think

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<v Speaker 1>that you would worry about them saying, Okay, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take Parsons here and we're just gonna move on and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and we'll address and see what happens in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round. But I would be really worried if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Cowboy fan, that they won't take the best

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<v Speaker 1>player in that situation, which last year they did it

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<v Speaker 1>with absolute brilliance. David, I was gonna let Jeff go

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<v Speaker 1>because I can tell how strongly he feels about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at look at that fan. Yeah, it's gross, it's gross.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gross. Uh And yeah, I mean if you're talking about, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the team would do in that

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<v Speaker 1>nightmare scenario? I think the first thing you're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, who wants trade lace and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of there, because yeah, you're trying. You're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like captain trade down ride here. If you've got

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<v Speaker 1>one of those quarterbacks available, that would be the goal. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've got to sit there and pick a player,

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<v Speaker 1>then I want to pick the best player available. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy should pick Jamar Chase in that scenario, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you figure it out what would they do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons comes into play, and then I think you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to look at the edge rushers. I think you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about Jalen Phillips, A ziz Asularry Quitty pay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you would be stuck. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you really had like Trey Lance available in Jamar

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<v Speaker 1>Chase available, that somebody would come up and save you

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<v Speaker 1>so you didn't have to pick somebody right there. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I would rather pick Greg Newsom than Michael Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather pick I would rather pick Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Waddle, Davante Smith than Michael Parsons. I'd rather pick

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah Wusu Coromoa. Like there's there's just I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons at ten. Why. I feel like, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just trying to guess what they would do,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see it. I could see that being the pick,

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<v Speaker 1>if that was your board. Why don't you want Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons so strongly? That's my my question. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>him either, but I want to hear your explanation on

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<v Speaker 1>why Michael Parsons would be a pin throw moment if

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<v Speaker 1>he were selected at ten, because I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>at linebacker for this team, especially just a pure real

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<v Speaker 1>life linebacker who at this point in his life, Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons is a better run player and pass rusher than

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<v Speaker 1>he is as a coverage guy. Coverage is so important

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<v Speaker 1>at linebacker in today's NFL. That's why I like Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 1>Wooso Coromoa more than I like Michael Parsons. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that is, and I don't know if the

0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys would know how to use this. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>what is incredibly valuable for defenses these days is offenses

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<v Speaker 1>want to play matchup football. They want to find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to expose the personnel that you have on the field

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<v Speaker 1>with a guy that they feel like as a mismatch.

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<v Speaker 1>I want guys that you can't find that with. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want an off ball linebacker who's inexperienced, slash raw,

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<v Speaker 1>slash uncertain in coverage in the top ten an NFL draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather have a guy who has safety linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>versatility that I know can cover your tight end, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even your slot receiver. Your running backs are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be easy to cover. I would just I think that

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<v Speaker 1>part of football has become so important that the more

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<v Speaker 1>interchangeable pieces you have that you can't take advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>me through matchups, that that's what I would rather have,

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<v Speaker 1>and just linebacker in the top ten in general, if

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons was an incredible cover guy, an incredible diagnosur of plays,

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<v Speaker 1>then I go, Okay, all right, he's now, he's Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>pitts Now, he's unique. That's just not Michael Parsons to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jeff just took all the words right out

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<v Speaker 1>of my mouth. And well, from what I gather, like

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that makes Micah Parsons appealing is that you

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<v Speaker 1>can send him after the quarterback. What I mean, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that something Jayalen Smith actually does well? Like, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give Jalen Smith credit for something, it's that he

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<v Speaker 1>could probably fill that role. So it feels kind of

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<v Speaker 1>redundant to me. And you know, I don't trust either

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<v Speaker 1>one of them to be great cover players, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what this team needs. So yeah, I mean, I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>like Jay Okay more in that instance, and it would

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely be a reach. But if you told me I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't trade out of that pick, and like it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I get, I get Jeff's logic, like draft Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 1>draft Jalen Wattle, and I mean, what does figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out look like? I get? I mean, do you trade

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup for pennies on the dollar, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you would get a great price for him if

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<v Speaker 1>you drafted Jamar Chase first, I think you traded player

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<v Speaker 1>for player that would be my figured out. My figured

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<v Speaker 1>out would be Michael Gallop. I'm not trading for a

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick because I agree I think you lose on

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<v Speaker 1>that deal. I think you're just you start looking around

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<v Speaker 1>the league and you say, hey, Will McClay hey, pro

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<v Speaker 1>personnel guys tell me about teams with depth charts at safety, corner,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle that they're in a Michael Gallup spot where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, crap, we get this extra guy. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to pay him. He's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>playing out his last year here, excuse me, And you

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<v Speaker 1>find a player for player match to try to help

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<v Speaker 1>your defensive side of the ball. Since I just took

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<v Speaker 1>a massive jury pick in the top ten, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you also have to look at a situation too. Their

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<v Speaker 1>linebacking situation is not great. And you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you draft Parsons, I would say you might not

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<v Speaker 1>pick up the fifth year option on on Layton vandersh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you need to figure out some things

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<v Speaker 1>there that the linebackers the last couple of years have

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<v Speaker 1>been banged up, haven't played very well normally in I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in a normal situation, we'd all be excited about

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<v Speaker 1>having Parsons. But then again, all the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys talked about, some of the limitations he has, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this guy is a good looking athlete, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a big, good looking athlete. And that's the problem that

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<v Speaker 1>scouts have is they see that out there running around

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<v Speaker 1>and they're thinking like, Okay, well he can he can

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<v Speaker 1>help us this way, or he can help us that way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that's the problem with the Cowboys, that

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<v Speaker 1>their linebacking situation, you know, isn't really good enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why you would even consider Parsons as

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<v Speaker 1>be because of the problems that they have there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't we all think you could reasonably address that

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<v Speaker 1>issue on day two? Like there's I think could be

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<v Speaker 1>available on day two. Oh no, I'm just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling I'm just telling you though, where where

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<v Speaker 1>they're what they're thinking about, They're they're thinking, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also offensive tackles in the second round that you

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<v Speaker 1>could take. There's also quarters you can take in the

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<v Speaker 1>second round. They're also wide receivers. You know, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about chase and call up. I really wonder

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<v Speaker 1>with all those wide receivers on the board, is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>really going to call you a chase? You know, they're like, hell,

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking at Dallas, Like Dallas ain't taking a wide receiver. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know why, I'm gonna call them? Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean to me, the quarterback makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That one does make sense for me. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, with all those wide receivers on the board,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if your phone wire ring because you

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<v Speaker 1>know we've seen this before, or you know, you take

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<v Speaker 1>these receivers really high. You know, the bus factor has

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty good. You just kind of work your way

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<v Speaker 1>down the board. It's all of a sudden what happened

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<v Speaker 1>last year? We had all those receivers shoved up to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of that board. I think the first would

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<v Speaker 1>win at twelve and it was a pretty damn good

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<v Speaker 1>class or receivers too. Would I would like, I would

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<v Speaker 1>play Devil's advocate and I think I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But the best receiver the draft would it's seventeen last year. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well aware. But again, like Brian, you know better

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<v Speaker 1>than anybody, teams fall in love with their guy and

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<v Speaker 1>they make sure you want it. And so like you

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<v Speaker 1>and me can sit here and say, oh you got Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Waddle, you got Chase, But the New England

0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Patriots might be sitting there saying we only want Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the only one that we want. And you got

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<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind too, that the two teams that

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<v Speaker 1>pick after the Cowboys would probably love to add a

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<v Speaker 1>skill player, the Giants and Eagles both. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if either of those teams picked a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe somebody would come up to get their guy,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that Dallas might be their last chance before they

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<v Speaker 1>went off the board. I don't think it's likely, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it's worth bringing Miami. Did that like

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<v Speaker 1>Miami's showing us that right. Yeah, at least that's my assumption,

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<v Speaker 1>is that Miami was willing to go from three to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve because they were willing to add multiple draft picks,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple ones. But then when they were sitting at twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that Chris Greer went right. But now I

0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.399
<v Speaker 1>can't get my receiver. I have to go back up.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're going back up to get their receiver. I

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<v Speaker 1>think for the right player, and I think for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of teams, Jamar Chase will be the right player somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>If he starts making it to even ten, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think teams are gonna start going Holy cow. We

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<v Speaker 1>thought this guy's gonna be gone at five or six?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we now go get this player? And you know

0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't plan that. You can absolutely trade down, but

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<v Speaker 1>by god, it's always fun. Well, think list of what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Jeff, and and you're talking about you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about you. What's the order of your receiver? You don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have chases the first your first receiver, right, I

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.360
<v Speaker 1>got Chase and Waddle very very very close and then DeVante.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's what I'm saying. But the Dolphins don't. The

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins are going to get some if they want to

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody. What if the Dolphins take Pits, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be who they get. They went to get somebody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they went to get somebody. Yeah that's but but but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a receiver. It's very tight ends wild. Well no,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's even it's even more wild that people are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go up for a tight end versus a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver when you talk about how much money those

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<v Speaker 1>premier positions make and how few tight ends in the

0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.159
<v Speaker 1>NFL make a ton of money. Col Pits gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a top five or so paid tight end from the

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<v Speaker 1>moment he steps on the field, he better stood. He

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<v Speaker 1>might be the best He might be the best receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft when you look at it overall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why people are gonna go get him. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody would. Somebody would go after Jamar Chase. It's easy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, It's it's easy for you to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will always be captain trade down. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But going back to the hypothetical, if you are in

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<v Speaker 1>this scenario and you can't get out, you cannot trade

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<v Speaker 1>just out of curiosity, would you rather take a chance

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<v Speaker 1>on one of those edge rushers at ten or just

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<v Speaker 1>grab Christian Barmore and get the best defensive tackle in

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<v Speaker 1>the class? Like which one of those is more appealing

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<v Speaker 1>to you, one of the one of the edge rushers.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't do either of those. I would take

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase. That are, well, you're don't do your jeff

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<v Speaker 1>thing like you. My insistence is upon taking I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten. I'm not picking my seventeenth best player

0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.679
<v Speaker 1>or my twentieth okay, best player because of the position

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>they play. Level with me, Level with me. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys would actually do that? Because I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. You never you never answer the question.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, okay, So if I'm guessing for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think that their list would be something along

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<v Speaker 1>the lines of Mica par Persons, who do you guess

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.639
<v Speaker 1>would be their favorite? Edge? Would Phillips injury scare them

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe for sure? And Parsons and look, but the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>they need to know, they need to know that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a giant mistake. Stop reaching down your board.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in the top ten, pick the well sixth best

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<v Speaker 1>player on your board. The hope is that what they

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<v Speaker 1>showed you last year that they would do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a little different. Picking at ten is

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<v Speaker 1>over to seventeen. I do. I know it's seven spots,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, when you see a player slide, that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know you have in the top six or five whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that that's I wonder if there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a player that slides to them all the

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<v Speaker 1>way at ten? You know, I wonder if it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Chase. I wonder if that's going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But me personally, I want to believe they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the right thing again. But why do I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that they're gonna take you know they're gonna take Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll why in that scenario. I believe they're gonna take Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>In that scenario, I believe they are. I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you why. And they deserve all the credit in the

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.479
<v Speaker 1>world for pulling the trigger on Lamb. But the thing

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that gets lost is that wide receiver was a need.

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have a slot receiver. They were faced with

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the prospect of starting Cedric Wilson in the slot if

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>they didn't draft a receiver last year, and that made

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<v Speaker 1>it way easier. I would have to see them draft

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver to this team to believe it. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not think they think that way. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm sitting here thinking, Okay, you're probably talking about

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Parsons or yeah, Azizo JULARI. I could get on board

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.680
<v Speaker 1>with that, and honestly, y'all can hate me all you want. Like,

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>if they drafted Barmore in that scenario, I would say, whatever,

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you got a good player. You got a good player

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<v Speaker 1>who fits an immediate need. I can't. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me me personally, I think Parsons is a better

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<v Speaker 1>player than Barmore. That's just me. Yeah, I would, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't. I don't see Parsons. I don't have Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say, I don't have Barmore in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Okay, yeah, oh see, I like him. I

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<v Speaker 1>like him a lot. Wait, I mean I don't love that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good, I know. I hope you're right. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. You know, I'll be happy to tip my

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<v Speaker 1>hat to anybody. He's not in the line of what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen from Alabama defensive tackles in the past, just

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<v Speaker 1>not and I and and and I was trying. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I sat there and tried and tried and tried,

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<v Speaker 1>and watching games and watching somebody watching Georgia line and

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<v Speaker 1>watching all these guys, and I'm going, Okay, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make a play here sometime, you know. But he's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the mode of the guys we've seen in the

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<v Speaker 1>past from Alabama. I would rather go to offensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>three and four before going to Barmore. I would rather

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<v Speaker 1>take Christian Derrisau or Tevin Jass. Okay, there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Wowee. You talk to people, you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people in that building, they will tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>Derrishaw from Virginia Tech is a real left tackle where

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<v Speaker 1>where some of the guys, some of the thoughts have been,

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<v Speaker 1>what about you know with the Northwestern kid, was Slater? Hey,

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that might be they're telling that's Zack Martin, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you kick him outside, you might not have the same player.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some questions. And I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>about arm lenked and all that stuff. I mean, you know,

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that could make that could be maddening. But the one

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I've heard over there is that Derek Shot

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<v Speaker 1>from Virginia Tech. That's a guy that that might be

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<v Speaker 1>that if if you got completely wiped out and you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take a tackle, that's somebody that they believe

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<v Speaker 1>as a real left tackle. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't hate that. I don't think I would necessarily hate

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<v Speaker 1>that either. And it's kind of the same thought process

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<v Speaker 1>of whenever you talked about Rashaan Slater or even if

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>somehow Penny Soul ends up falling, it's that same thought

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<v Speaker 1>process of pick the best player that's on your board,

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<v Speaker 1>and that somehow aligns with a need to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like how the Cowboys did last year at seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>a position under that corner at ten? And then how

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<v Speaker 1>do have to say, Jeff Kavanaugh, I'm very impressed with

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 1>your timing. I think that was about as smooth as

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<v Speaker 1>could be. If you're at home, there's no way you

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<v Speaker 1>would have at any point thought that Jeff was in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the hallway with his phone like ten

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>seconds ago. But that's exactly what the case was. Magic

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of television and he made it work that time. So Jeff,

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>just for that, we're gonna ask you this fresh question. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>first question, idea, how long the break was either just

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>assume I'd be fine. Oh it was. It was perfect,

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>It was impeccable all right. Time now for some twitter

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<v Speaker 1>on the twe on the twenty first question comes from James,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm asking James question because he's been very adamant

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>about us answering more questions. He has sent multiple tweets

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>at least saying please answer more questions, but we're gonna

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>answer his Kyle, Okay, sorry, Should the Cowboys go for

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a position other than cornerback at end? And what would

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it cost to move back up into the first round

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to potentially target a quarterback? He said, who you think

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>they would get but I think if you're gonna try

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and go back up, it might be to get a

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>guy at cornerback, but you could throw any position in there. Jeff,

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>what do you think on that one? I think if

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you're going non cornerback, it would be for one of

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>two reasons, either Certan and Horn are gone or they're

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>both there. But you also had a slider like Pina

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Soil or Kyle Pitts. So in his scenario, I'll say

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>we've taken either Pina Soil or Kyle Pitts, and then

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:55.959
<v Speaker 1>we looked at each other and like, guys, what are

0:28:56.000 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>we doing at corner? And then you package maybe Brian

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<v Speaker 1>can run numbers on this twenty seventy five, let's go

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to twin will be in the twenties somewhere. Wow. And

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>then and then in my dream world, that gets me

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Greg Newsome. But with Caleb Farley's backfasectomies, I think Newsom

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<v Speaker 1>probably becomes the third corner off the board, and I

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he makes the twenties. So it might

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>be a waiting game where you're just seeing what happens

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>at corner and figuring out when it's time to move,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>depending on who you like, like a Sante, Samuel Junior, Kelvin,

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Joseph Melafon Wu. When does Farley come into play? Elijah

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Molden blah blah blah blah blah. There's a million of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you can move back up, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that becomes more likely if you take an offensive player

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<v Speaker 1>at ten. Yeah, I agree. I think you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to figure out somebody, will somebody let you

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<v Speaker 1>back in for forty four and seventy five. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>you got, you know, that's that's your offer. Maybe we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the situation with Gallup as well. You could

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>use him as a players, a throw in to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing to maybe get somebody interested in it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to me, if you're gonna go back in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna see what the medical is on Farley.

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see if taken him, say at twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty five, that might be just okay for me

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I mean, but then again, if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to take him at ten, why would they take

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<v Speaker 1>him fifteen picks later? Yeah, but I'm still going to

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>investigate that. I'm gonna look at the like Jeff's talking

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>about the Newsoms, the Melofon Woos, those types of guys.

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of quarters. Even if you sat there

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<v Speaker 1>to forty four. I think you could find you a

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback in this draft, though, But if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be aggressive, go ahead and try and make it work, Dave,

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that's no, that's that's incredibly thorough. I honestly,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything to add to that other than

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, y'all know me. I don't love moving around,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and I know we spent the first twenty minutes doing

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>doomsday stuff. But when you're picking, you're picking tenth, I

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>just sort of believe that it's going to work out,

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>especially with the depth the depth of this quarterback class,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, like during the break, ESPN is reporting that

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is trying to shop the number four pick, Like,

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I still think you're either going to have a quarterback

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting there. You know, when you pick tenth, you're either

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>going to have a quarterback sitting there that you can

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>use to trade, or so many quarterbacks are gonna have

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>gotten drafted that a player you love is going to

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>be sitting there. I don't know if I'm just being

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>overly optimistic, but I really think that's got a high

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>likelihood have happened. No, Like Dave, I think, honestly, out

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of the name's Pinnay Soul, and I'm gonna make sure here,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>but I think we would all be comfortable if the

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys pick was Pinnay Soul or Rashaun Slater or file

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Pits or Patrick's or Tan yep or yes, And I

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>think at least one and up to three of those

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be available because I think you're gonna see

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chasco, You're gonna see at least four quarterbacks. Go Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this thing is going to fall where

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be happy with what you've got at ten,

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's gonna happen again at forty four.

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I understand if you wanted to target a certain player

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>in the twenties and you wanted to move up, but

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I really think that and maybe this happens every year,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love what the draft looks like from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five to seventy five. Yeah, I don't want to give

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>up multiple picks in that range. I'm trying to add

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>more of those picks if there's any way possible. Yep.

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I was putting together a top fifty one for the

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<v Speaker 1>website for one oh five three, and I had a

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>harder time putting together the players from twenty one on

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>down than I did putting the players from the top

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of the round. So yeah, that just told you a

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit more thought about. Wow, I like this guy

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better than this guy. This guy, So yeah,

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Jeff on that sit there at forty

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>four if you want to, and you'll probably grab a

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty good player. And everybody may not know all these names,

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>but at forty four, I mean, I think you're gonna

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>have guys in consideration where I've got seven second round corners,

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Robinson, Eric Stokes, Elijah Molden. Are those guys at

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<v Speaker 1>forty four? Jabril Cox and Baron Browning at linebacker, Elim

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>McNeil at defensive tackle, Carlos Basham the edge, Joseph Osi,

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Turner, Alex Leatherwood at left tackle. If you don't

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>know these names, just look them all up. But like

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>these are guys that those are NFL starters. Man, there's

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be an offensive lineman, there's gonna be a corner,

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be Richie Grant. There's gonna be a safety,

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and there's gonna be an edge player. There's gonna be

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>dudes there that you're gonna love. Every single year that

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I've done this, we get off the air on Thursday

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>night and there's like six guys sitting there that we've

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>spent the whole spring talking about as possible first round picks,

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and but the Cowboys aren't usually picking this high. Yeah, sure,

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it's exciting to think that, you know, some of those

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>guys will be there for him. Well, it happened last

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>year with Trayvon Diggs. I mean, that was a guy

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>we thought would go in the back half of the

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>first round, and then not only did he fall, he

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>fell to the Cowboys at fifty one, and it was

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>something that was just kind of unforeseen and something that

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>happened that was very exciting. But kind of along these

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>same lines, Sebastian asked our next question. He said, what

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>players outside of quarterback have the greatest boom or bus

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>potential in this draft? And I think a lot of

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>those names that could line up with this question are

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>right in that twenty five to seventy five range that

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Brian you were just talking about. Yeah, you know what.

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I am not the you know, And I heard Jeff

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>mentioned he was talking about the linebackers and stuff like that.

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I do worry about a bust with Cox from LSU,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and I know that's my school and all that, but

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not so shot on that one. And

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>LSU has had a great history here recently and putting

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>linebackers in the draft and it working out for him.

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>But I do worry about him a little bit more.

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you another one I have a high grade on,

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and I worry about Kelvi Joseph from Kentucky, you know.

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've got him in the mix with Newsome

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and Samuel Molden, those guys in the second round, but

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>there might be some guys, you know, Melofon, Woo, Graham Stokes.

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's some maybe some other guys that might

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>be better. I know I have him in that second round,

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>but I would worry a little bit about him. Maybe

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit of a bus factor there as well.

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>So there's a couple of defensive guys. I have some

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>concerns about going into this thing. I feel like I

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>have in the right spot, but I do have a

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit of apprehension about him well, And I want

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to mention the boom part of this too, because I

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like everybody that's listening is going to hear us

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>pooh pooh the Michael Parsons idea. Michael Parsons could be

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>an eight time All Pro in a Hall of Famer.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Very sure. That's the physical tools here. Like I think

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Parsons is boom er bust. I think they're Kelvin Joseph

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>is a great name for boom er bust. I think

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>the safety in Indiana, Jamar Johnson is a great name

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for boom or bust. I think if you could get

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>him at seventy five, that's a real life free safety

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>that just has no idea how toling works. But if

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you want a free safety that can cover and can

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>turn the ball over, I think Jamar Johnson is a

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>boomer bust guy. Gosh, there are just there's there's really

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I'm trying to think Nick Bolton, that's my

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>dream at forty four yea as a Missouri linebacker Nick Bolton.

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>But you are talking about five to eleven four sixth athlete.

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>The shuttles weren't very good, So like you're talking about

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>a guy that I absolutely love on tape that the

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>testing was not great, So I think maybe there's some

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Boomer Bust there, But I'm more focused on the boom

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>where I think he could be an outstanding NFL linebacker

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that may tumble his way into the mid second round

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>because he's quote small and didn't test great. Yeah you

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>could also throw in Grant as well. I know we've

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>all talked about the safety you know there, but yeah, man,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that's one of those ones looks really great on tape

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 1>and you look at the testing numbers, probably not as

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>great as they needed to be, but don't I mean,

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that's one of those kinds. If you get a guy

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>like that, he could come in play a long time

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, okay, wait, some of the things are

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.240
<v Speaker 1>starting to show up that, you know, the testing numbers wise,

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that that make him, you know, make him have that

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of a career. I feel bad. Oh sorry, Jeff,

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, but I was just going to throw on

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a couple of quick names real quick. The defensive tackle

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>class I think has a lot of Boomer bust in

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>it owns Rique at Washington. I think that's big time

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Boomer bust. I think he's being talked about his potential

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>first round pick, and it's off of physical tools. I don't.

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's not off of tape Marvin Wilson, who

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>has two years as what a eighteen and nineteen year

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>old of dominating college football, and then tape this last

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>year where a lot of times they're running a three

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>man line and it's a different spot and he looks

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>like he's bigger and maybe not as explosive. Marvin Wilson

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I think might be the best defensive tackle in this

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>draft class. Wow. And and maybe what happened to him

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in his third year in college football is that it

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>was too easy to him and he didn't work hard enough.

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm totally speculating. So maybe he's a

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>complete bust. Maybe he's the best D tackle in the class.

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Christian Barmore D tackle yea, Alabama didn't play him on rundowns.

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>They were acting like he's some dominant one technique. They

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let him play football until it was done to

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>rush the passer. So I think a lot of the

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>D tackle class, my top three D tackles, I think

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>they're all Boomer bust. That's I mean that goes in

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>hand with what I was gonna say, which is I

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit bad. It's just the nature of

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>edge rushers is that they play such an important position

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>that they get overdrafted. There's not a single guy that

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I would be shocked, you know. I mean, Quitty pay

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>always comes to mind, just because his production last year

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't amazing, but you know, he'll probably be a top

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty at least the top twenty five pick, but probably

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>even higher because of the position that he plays. And

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of those guys. Joseph Acai,

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he's really intriguing, but I don't trust that

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>that's going to translate. And that State guy, yeah away away, Yeah,

0:38:56.440 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like maybe maybe the most talented, like Purelyalenton, of all

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of them are certainly in the conversation with like none

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of the production to go along with it, but absolutely

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>could be a first round pick on potential alone. So

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that's edge rushers scared the bejesus out of me. And

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 1>that is unless it's unless it's a can't miss guy

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like a Chase Young. It scares the crap out of me,

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 1>which I know, take my gut, Peyton Turner, take my gut,

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Turner. I mean, if you say, though, but it's

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 1>a good player, it's scared. We're not betting on whipping

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>around the corner and translating to the just athleticism. We're

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna get the guy who uses length and those he

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>still went and can play multiple spots. Let's go. That's

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>why I would I would take Boogie Basham before. I

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>took a lot of these guys like just because so

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and the trying kid from Washington's another good one to

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>watch too. So there's some guys that are really steady players,

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's gonna be some huge value in

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>like you say that second third round, there's some of

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>these guys, but you know, you just got to try

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and hope that you get the right one. That's always

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 1>the trick here with the drive. I've got a third

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>round boomer Bus guy that I really like. I got

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to actually call a game of his previously, and I

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>think he's a fantastic player. Edge rusher Jordan Smith from

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>u AB is somebody I think you should keep your

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>eye on for a player that could potentially boom or bust.

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>That it's more likely that he's a bust coming out

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of conference Tosa, but still something that you should keep

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>your eye on. Now, Dave, I've got fifth round grade

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>on him here. Fifth round grade, Okay, so I was

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like late fourth. I think he's where I'm at. But

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he's still somebody who I really do like in that

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that area. Dave, this is a really quick question for you,

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and this comes from b Human. He says, is Quitty

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>pay really on the Cowboys radar at this point? Of course,

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Michigan not, I mean, not that I'm aware of at ten.

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>But again, like you know, and that's that's the scary part.

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>And the people that I've talked to, like I mean,

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>it's it's beyond obvious that they want a cornerback, like

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.240
<v Speaker 1>anybody can figure that out. I think they're more interested

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>in linebacker than the three or the four of us

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>would probably prefer them to be. I haven't heard a

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of noise about edge rushers, but again, the position

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>is so valuable and the upside is so high. I

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can rule anything out, but at ten,

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard a lot about that. I would the

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>linebacker thing, Dave that you're mentioned, I actually want them

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>to be interested in linebackers. I just don't want them

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it at ten because oh no, that's but

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what I mean. I mean at ted. Yeah, no,

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>they absolutely should be interested in linebacker. But I think

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>we would all agree not at number ten because if

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are a smart organization, and then I'm just

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna say things they're not gonna do, which is just

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be very offensive. But like Layton Vanderis, I you

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>can't stay on the field. I can't pay you ten

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>million dollars for your fifth year. I gotta turn down

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>your fifth year option. And when Jalen Smith's contract in

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the way he's played recently, I went out of it

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>as soon as possible. If I'm the Cowboys, I'm in

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the market to replace both with my linebackers within the

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:05.399
<v Speaker 1>next twelve months. Good. Yeah, it's totally possible. I think

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that I think Quitty Pay, and for all the faults

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that we might see in Quitty Pay, I think what

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>happens with him is because he's Michigan, he's defensive end,

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and we think of Taco. That's I think that's in

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people's minds. But you know, look at

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the kid Gary that went to the Packers and from Michigan.

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 1>He's playing a lota to a defensive end. I just think,

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I just think that people in their mind are thinking

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Edge Rush or Michigan Taco, which I unfortunate, I hope not,

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>because they couldn't be more dissimilar. Like Quitty Pay is

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a freak, actually, no question. I'm just telling you what

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>people associate Michigan and defensive end with. Honestly, I think

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you're probably right. People do that a lot. I mean,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 1>people still talk trash about LSU dbs because of Mo claiborne,

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>So I get I get it, But I mean I

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want them to pick Quitty Pay at ten, but

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably be more excited about it. And I know that.

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I have to wear the blame because I

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>defended the taco pick more than most, but I would

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>probably be more excited because we said all along, we

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>were like tacos. Ceiling isn't as high as other guys,

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>but his floor could be higher as well, Like I

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>think Quddy Pay is pure ceiling. So it might be

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a disaster, but if it works, it could work out

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>really really well. I actually don't mind Pay as a

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>floor guy because I think that the freak athleticism that

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you're banking on is what can he turn into as

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.919
<v Speaker 1>a pass rusher. But I think as a run player,

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 1>he's already good. Like he's high effort, he's strong, he's

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.240
<v Speaker 1>just the thing that he's missing is he hasn't developed

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the pass rush yet and he doesn't have what the

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>NFL is so enamored with in terms of, hey, where's

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>your thirty five inch arm? But like, I think that

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 1>dude is physical, tough, high motor. I think he'll be

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 1>a good run player no matter what. And then it's

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>can we unlock this athleticism and turn you into a

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>great pass rusher? So I don't mind his floor. I

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 1>just think ten is like Dave, you talked about it

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 1>with all these pass rushers, all of them. The scouting

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>report is something like that, just talking about different things

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 1>that you're you feel good about and the other things

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>where it's like can I develop it? And it's just

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it's such a strange class for the edge guys. But

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I think quitity pay when you go with the Michigan thing.

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 1>He's stronger, he's more active, he's more athletic. Yeah, range,

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but if you just had long arms, yeah yeah, if

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you do the work. If you do the work, you

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>can see that Quitty Pay is a better player he is,

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and that should alleviate a lot of your stress. I

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>would just like to think there's a more I would

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 1>like to think there's a more complete, ready made guy.

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And I mean I'm not trying to dog Quinny Pay

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>too much, but that's more of like, oh man, I

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>hope he's really good as opposed like hopefully at number ten,

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>there should be a guy that I feel more confident about.

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>That's all. So would be that guy for me? Yeah,

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>rapid fire. Last question. I want to get this in

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's a great one. Uh fill in

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>this sentence. If the Cowboys do not draft blank position

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>in the first three rounds of this draft, it would

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>be a mistake. Brian, start us off. Which position would

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>be a mistake if you don't hit it at least

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>once in this draft in the first three rounds. I

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 1>think cornerback is it. I mean the corners are really

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, the corners, the wide receivers. I think you've

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>got to find a way to get a cornerback. I

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>want to say that the safety position could stretch a

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit at free but I think you need to

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>draft a corner out of this thing, that the quality

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>through the rounds is just too good to pass up.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that will absolutely do Man Dave. Cornerback is

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. But since Brian already said it, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>actually I think this is more important to the point

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<v Speaker 1>Death made a minute ago. Linebacker and the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboy the Cowboys front office they need a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one hundred. I know they're looking at him.

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<v Speaker 1>But did they think linebacker is as drastic a need

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<v Speaker 1>as we do? Or are they sitting over here basically

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<v Speaker 1>in denial about Jalen and you know, maybe thinking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we can pick up Layton's option and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be healthy and it's not a concern and Dan Quinn's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get Jayalen right. Like, I could absolutely see the

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>front office pumping some sunshine and ignoring linebacker, and I

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>think that would be a huge mistake. I will say safety,

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>because you're Kurt starting free safety. His guaranteed money is

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>one tenth of what haha Clinton Dix was guaranteed, and

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>he's coming off of a torn achilles. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>you need to draft a guy you think can play

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>free safety in the first three rounds. I like, so

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 1>basically the whole defense. Yeah, I was about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole You can throw defensive tackle. You can throw

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle in there too, if you want to throw

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<v Speaker 1>an engine there. Yeah. Gosh, don't yell at me. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the end of the world. That's basically how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like. I'm like, it's not great, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the end of the world. Don't yell at me.

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<v Speaker 1>have we talked enough about maybe putting JC Horne above

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up this thought in our in our group

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<v Speaker 1>message leading into today's show, and David I actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had this conversation briefly yesterday in studio. But are

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<v Speaker 1>we really putting enough stock in JC Horne as a

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<v Speaker 1>potential number one corner in this draft class, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>above Patrick Curtan or are we crazy even thinking that's

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to being the case. No, I actually have

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<v Speaker 1>on my board and I'll put it out here on

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<v Speaker 1>our website on one oh five three that I work with,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put it out and show you that I have

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<v Speaker 1>Jac Horne above Certana and it's no disrespect to Certan

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And you know, if the Cowboys take him,

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's fine. I have no problem with that.

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I just think that to me, in this day and

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 1>age the National Football League, you've got to have guys

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 1>at battle. You gotta have guys that are tough. You

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta have guys at corner to play with a chip

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>on their shoulder. And I and I think that to me,

0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you look at Horn, he's a guy that's like that.

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>His dad was that type of a player. With the Saints.

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>You always played with a chip. I think the kid

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>has that same type of ability physically, He's what you

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted a cornerback, Sir Tamble. It's good too. I just

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like with Horn though, I want that competitive, tough edge,

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think that he brings that and that's why

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I have him above certain Dave. I have him. Oh good. Sorry,

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 1>So I never know who's gonna go, but it's no

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 1>part of me wonders. Part of me wonders if maybe

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:36.399
<v Speaker 1>this is just boredom because Certan has been the top

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>cornerback since October probably maybe even longer than that, so

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe people are just looking for reasons to switch it up.

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But with that in mind, I have, you know, talked

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to people I know who do this for a living,

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, am I stupid for thinking this? And

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>They're like, I'm not gonna say definitively one way or

0:51:57.520 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the other, but you're definitely not crazy, and they're definitely

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be teams that agree with that. Like I guarantee

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you there are teams that think Horn is the top

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.879
<v Speaker 1>corner and I want to be careful because, like I've

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>never met Patrick Surtan, he started multiple years at the

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.320
<v Speaker 1>best program in the country, Like you don't pull that

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>off without having some alpha mentality to you. But I'm

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>with Brian, like J. C. Horne seems like he's got

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the type of you know, alpha pain in the ass,

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.880
<v Speaker 1>chip on the shoulder attitude where he could come in

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>here as a rookie and be like, no, like we're

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 1>changing the culture in here, like you know, we're we're

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>not getting toasted the way we have. Like he almost

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>like like a Richard Sherman type of mentality where he's

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna make the play and then trash talk his own

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>teammate for throwing the paths, you know, and that's really

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 1>really intriguing when you remember how pitiful this defense looked

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>at times last year. So I don't think you can

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 1>go wrong either way, but I think it is a

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.360
<v Speaker 1>very worthwhile conversation that JC Horn might be the better player.

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Horn my number one cornerback too. I have him above

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:05.800
<v Speaker 1>cur Tan. But I also think that for NFL teams,

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what this is, especially early in the draft,

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 1>is risk management, and with cur Tan, you're you have

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 1>less risk. Like cir Tan is an outstanding tackler. He

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like there's nothing on a football field that he doesn't

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>do well, and with JC Horne, He's a wild tackler

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 1>who just kind of ducks his head and lunges. He

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.400
<v Speaker 1>had five penalties in the games they played last year.

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 1>He's grabby. So like, there are more things that I

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>think the team is going to look at and see

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.879
<v Speaker 1>risk with, but I also look at the positives of Horn,

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>which is when South Carolina they get off the plane

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 1>or the bus or whatever, they say, well, who's the

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 1>best guy. Horn's got him, And it doesn't matter if

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a tight end, the slot receiver, the outside, it

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. He's going where that guy is and that

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna hate him for the entire football game. So

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Horn's my number one guy. But I think that we

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>do we do have to ignowit knowledge that going that

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 1>route and saying that Horne is your top corner is

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>saying I know the risks of JC Horn, and I

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 1>accept it because I'm betting on the mentality, with the athleticism,

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:18.759
<v Speaker 1>with the ball skills and the versatility that he's gonna

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 1>go cover the best guy. He's not just playing corner.

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna come find you and you're not going to

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that day. That's what's kind of interru Horn Fan

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Club Basic. I was about to say that what's intriguing

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to me because I feel like we've talked about this

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning of Patrick Urtan being that number one guy,

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and then out of all of a sudden, we're three

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>weeks from the draft and now J. C. Horne is

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the number one option at corner. Is it should we

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>be scared? Well? No, But I mean there's people like

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>myself that had Farley over both those guys, true, you know,

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and and and so I don't think that's your Tan

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>has always been the number one guy, I know before

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the back problems, and talk is some teams around the

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>league they absolutely love Farley, you know, and we're willing

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to say, yeah, he is the top guy. But with

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the back thing, you can't have him as your top

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>guy unless some teams are totally saying, oh, it's not

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be a problem. But yeah, I mean Curtan

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>is what you know about Curtan and Dave and Jeff

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>did a great job. What you know about Curtan is

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 1>he went to one of the best programs in the country.

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>He's playing huge games, He's been a starter for a

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:35.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of years. He's got coached by Nick Saban Hard

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the Saban coaches those the secondary in Alabama. You know

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 1>his technique is going to be good. You know, his

0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 1>ability to make plays off man, whatever he has to do.

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:49.280
<v Speaker 1>And you're right, it's about avoiding. It's about it's about

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:51.839
<v Speaker 1>the risk. You know, what is your risk? What are

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you willing to tolerate? You want somebody safe and steady,

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 1>or do you want a guy that's going to be

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>combative and not down balls and get balls and get

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>turnovers and stuff. That's where you But he might be

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 1>wheels off too. He might get oldiepenally late in the game.

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna kill you. That's where you have to be

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 1>able to evaluate these guys right now. And you know,

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I think if the Cowboys had an opportunity to draft

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:21.400
<v Speaker 1>between Curtan and Horn, I think they would take Certain.

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I really really do. I was about to say the

0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>same thing and I and it's not a knock on anybody.

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I do think. I do think some of it is

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 1>boredom on a lot of levels, like boredom from just

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about Certain and boredom because Curtan is so safe

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 1>like that, like everybody. You know his technique, he's he's sound,

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.479
<v Speaker 1>he's not flashy, and you know, when you're talking about

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a top ten pick, like as mean as it sounds

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to say, that's that's not super exciting, So people look

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>for a more exciting alternative. And I completely agree with Brian.

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I love jac Horn. I like, you know, I be

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys pick and a perfect world for all the

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 1>reasons he just listed. Hey, guys, I think there's a

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:04.960
<v Speaker 1>chance Greg Newsom ends up being the best corner in

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>this class. Oh you can't just throw that out there

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>two minutes from the end of the show and not

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 1>give any experts. I throw it out there. I mean,

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 1>that's that's Jeff's thing is to find a guy who's

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>like in the conversation but not really and be like, no,

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he's way but apparently, can I ask you what you

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 1>can Ik, Kelvin Joseph gets along with everybody, then there's

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>a chance Kelvin Joseph ends up being the best corner

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>in this drafts. Yeah, I mean, as you though about

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Newsom though, did you you see how much off coverage

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and stuff that he plays at Northwestern? Do you really

0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 1>see his ability as a player. Yeah, they play a

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 1>ton of very deep cover three which keeps everything in

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 1>front of him, right, Yeah, so you can't complete deep

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 1>balls on him, but it's part of the scheme. But

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I think his athletic testing is what really helped him

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<v Speaker 1>for me, because never you couldn't really know because of

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<v Speaker 1>what they were asking him to do. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>you take the instincts, the ball skills, what was on tape,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you say, oh, and perhaps he is an

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<v Speaker 1>elite athlete and you go, Wow, Okay, that dude's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really really good. Interesting. I don't disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, it goes back to the conversation we

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<v Speaker 1>had in the first segment where I think a better

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<v Speaker 1>player will be available at ten. That's the beauty and

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<v Speaker 1>the curse of number ten is it's like how far

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<v Speaker 1>down you know, how far down on your board do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go? Preferably not at all. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of the trade down. You trade down, you might

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<v Speaker 1>still you go down on the board about Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before in our show too. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>is like, how many teams behind you have? Cornerback is

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<v Speaker 1>a primary or a secondary? Need? You know? I think

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<v Speaker 1>there were like I bet six corners go in the

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<v Speaker 1>first I bet five or six corners go in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. Yeah, that's the problem. That's the problem, right there,

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<v Speaker 1>is somebody gonna let you get back in the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and or let you get back in, and is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let you come down knowing that you're hunting a

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<v Speaker 1>corner at that spot, you know that where they're hunting

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<v Speaker 1>a corner too. That's the that's the pitfall a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>or the things the navigation of the minefield that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go through in this draft fifty. Going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the doomsday scenario, I'm with Jeff that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>convinced it's doomsday, not because of Jamar Chase, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like if if Trey Lance or even Mac Jones slides

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<v Speaker 1>to ten New England, or how about Chicago at twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody shoot Ryan Pace is like a thumbnail away from

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<v Speaker 1>getting fired. You think he's not going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>do something bold to get a quarterback last time, but no, Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate this. I hope you read it on Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. I encourage you. Great website for our mailbag

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<v Speaker 1>today is somebody was asking about trading back and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if Chicago wants to give you next year's one to

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<v Speaker 1>come up from twenty. I'm doing that all day because

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<v Speaker 1>there will be good players sitting there at twenty. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah I would. I would do that as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also really surprised on the horn over, sir Tan.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have to add this in right before

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<v Speaker 1>we have to get off the air. But our guy

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Pitts, whenever he was asked, who was your toughest

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<v Speaker 1>matchup during your time in college? Do you know if

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<v Speaker 1>he played both Patrick Sutan and jac Horne? And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>mister j Yeah he did, because he was annoyed. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see it on tape. He hated J. C. Horne.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, the son of a biscuit is grabbing

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<v Speaker 1>me every play. You guys aren't calling it. He's annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate him, Like it was on tap. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see it. He hated it. Yeah he did, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was very open about that, saying then Jac Horne was

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest matchup that Kyle Pitts had the entirety of

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<v Speaker 1>his collegiate career. But that's going to do it for

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