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Speaker 1: Will's f ward and I think I might have had
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Speaker 1: you on this podcast. I know you're super excited to
Speaker 1: hear about Fred Warner. Listener, Fred Warner, captain of that
Speaker 1: forty nine ers defense, just the heart and soul of
Speaker 1: the boys on the other breaks my heart that I
Speaker 1: was I know, dude, and it was so fucking good.
Speaker 1: Of all the episodes we did, I was the one
Speaker 1: I wanted you on the most because I couldn't wait
Speaker 1: to see two potential Hall of Fame linebackers talkball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm really bummed. I DMed him and
Speaker 3: talking about how sad I was about it. I was like,
Speaker 3: we'd love to get you out to Nashville at some point.
Speaker 3: Do another one get on the bus for real, because
Speaker 3: I would. I would love to get in the mind
Speaker 3: of Fred Warner because he's the best linebacker in the league.
Speaker 1: Do you think so? I think so? Yeah? Is it close?
Speaker 1: Because in my head? Who else is there? It's not close?
Speaker 3: Mitch mitchha, it was like the most confident.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 3: This was Mitch's. This was Mitch shaking his head. No,
Speaker 3: He's like, is it close to? Mitch was like, like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Like there's just nothing but
Speaker 3: scrubs out there. There's a lot of cats, bro no, no,
Speaker 3: no's who bring up a list. You're not gonna put
Speaker 3: me on the spot, and mostly from Kansas City. That
Speaker 3: I spelt his name wrong. During the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Willie Gay No Bolden, Bolden, he's Bolden, he's young bold but.
Speaker 3: Brother Guy and Bobby Wagner he's older. Michael Parsons older,
Speaker 3: he's still But you're like, is it even closer when
Speaker 3: you go Leavonte David Leavonte, David the Mario Davis.
Speaker 5: I think Fred and Warner's head and shoulders above all old.
Speaker 1: Boy from the Colts Darius Leonard. Yeah, and that is quick.
Speaker 2: You forget that, don't get me wrong. I just think close,
Speaker 2: not particularly. I think Fred's the best linebackers. Would you
Speaker 2: play in uh at your college wide receiver? Wide receiver?
Speaker 1: You played wide receiver and you knew going into it
Speaker 1: you were white. You didn't think maybe I should switch
Speaker 1: that up a little bit.
Speaker 5: What else am I going to play?
Speaker 1: I don't know them? Calves O line linebacker.
Speaker 3: Line He does have a friend, could be like, you
Speaker 3: have a frame like a linebacker.
Speaker 1: This whole time until just now, I truly thought he
Speaker 1: was a linebacker. I got a good you got a
Speaker 1: good build on you make we all we all said
Speaker 1: if we all did steroids, I think you'd have the
Speaker 1: best body. Remember no oh, I did say Jack head aesthetically.
Speaker 1: Aesthetically like from like a rip standpoint jack, from like
Speaker 1: a build, like, oh, that guy's fucking he's fucking that
Speaker 1: dude that'd probably be built like a tight end.
Speaker 5: But okay, like I'm big like that, but like you.
Speaker 1: Got that heavy head, you get that blockhead he does.
Speaker 1: You got a blockhead. Yeah, but he's got that coming
Speaker 1: out of birth sat but reeling it, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you got that fucking You've made a lot of spills
Speaker 1: when you were younger and just wiped hey, yourself off
Speaker 1: and kept going. Take a moment of silence for your mother,
Speaker 1: God bless her for from P to from P to B.
Speaker 1: Thank you hey, but just to reel it all back in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of like really good
Speaker 3: fucking linebackers in the league. But and the it's not
Speaker 3: Fred's not in the league of his own, but he
Speaker 3: is in my opinion, I think he's the best linebacker
Speaker 3: in the NFL.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, but there's a lot of good ones
Speaker 1: out there that can make a good argument. Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: is a dude that I look at as a linebacker,
Speaker 1: but he's also more of an edge guy now, he's
Speaker 1: more of a past rushing thing. Is he at Penn State?
Speaker 1: He was an off the ball linebacker, right that just
Speaker 1: Blake he was, Yeah, talk about an absolute free talk
Speaker 1: about a league of his own. Michael Parsons brother stud.
Speaker 1: Every off the.
Speaker 3: Ball linebacker would love they have to have Michael Parson's
Speaker 3: ability because in that pass rush ability, that's where you
Speaker 3: get big dollars.
Speaker 1: Brother. When in twenty twenty one, when we were playing
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the playoff game fifty seven, I can't
Speaker 1: remember his name. I apologize. I know he watches the
Speaker 1: show Comes on the Ball and they were running like
Speaker 1: a like a five man front, essentially a jam front,
Speaker 1: and we were running at him and he was taking
Speaker 1: on blocks horribly. It was it was a great feeling
Speaker 1: for me. And after like the third or fourth one,
Speaker 1: because you know, we run a lot of consistently the
Speaker 1: same thing, uh the main prep when we were a
Speaker 1: lot of run a lot of the same plays, especially
Speaker 1: when things are going well, and we kept running and
Speaker 1: I kept I kept base blocking him and after the
Speaker 1: third one, he's like, man, fuck this shit looks at
Speaker 1: the sideline, fucking take me off the ball. I'm not
Speaker 1: on the ball.
Speaker 3: He's he's a good backer, by the way. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like when you get in them systems and them
Speaker 3: coordinators want to like get get a little but doing
Speaker 3: those five man in front. Hey, hey, well when we
Speaker 3: say you're gonna go to the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, there's zero ability in this body everything get
Speaker 3: on the ball, you know what I mean. You know
Speaker 3: there was one time that in practice where I came
Speaker 3: on the came on the ball against you. I mean,
Speaker 3: I got the sack. But don't laugh like that, dude.
Speaker 3: You don't like that laugh. That's a genuine left. That's
Speaker 3: when you know it's a genuine least.
Speaker 1: A genuine left. Dude. I do do this thing where
Speaker 1: I kind of like quietly laugh at his Malthobin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you like the new teeth. Fucking love him, dude. How's
Speaker 1: it being getting on the like? I think the more
Speaker 1: reps I get speaking, the better I feel. But you
Speaker 1: heard when I said speaking you felt that little at
Speaker 1: the end or the like in the middle speaking speaking,
Speaker 1: I do have a little bit of difficulty that I
Speaker 1: was at the combine. We will get into that. That
Speaker 1: was a blast always to be around rich eyes. And
Speaker 1: but the reason why the Bengals were in that five
Speaker 1: man front is because of King Henry and unfortunately or
Speaker 1: maybe fortunately for Derek. I don't know. The Titans seem
Speaker 1: like they are now shopping and there's some Tennessee Titan
Speaker 1: drama going on right now.
Speaker 3: You got the rumors of Dereck Henry being shopped and
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Simmons he's playing the old AJ Brown Car where
Speaker 3: he's deleting everything on the internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah we know how that worked really well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there is so there's some drama around Tennessee
Speaker 3: right now, like drama. I just think, like headlines, people
Speaker 3: are making this stuff up. My personal opinion. If I
Speaker 3: zoom out, I'm fully objective. I'm playing armchair GM. I
Speaker 3: think the right move would be to shop Dereck Henry.
Speaker 3: I told you that before. Yeah you have, just because
Speaker 3: I think that the tread that's on. You look at
Speaker 3: a running back overall, you want to trade it. If
Speaker 3: you're gonna deal somebody, you want to deal them like
Speaker 3: while they're still hot. Like it's up to the GM
Speaker 3: to think, how many years do we think we have
Speaker 3: left with their Henry? You have a decimated O line.
Speaker 3: Do you think Derek's really gonna continue to perform. If
Speaker 3: we don't have an entire o line in front. We
Speaker 3: might need pieces, we might need picks, we might need
Speaker 3: multiple players, and we could potentially deal Derrick Henry. Who everyone,
Speaker 3: It's not that anybody sitting up there being like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's not good. It's just like, hey, we got to
Speaker 3: look at building the roster. We have a lot of holes.
Speaker 3: Derek might be a piece of move. It's you know,
Speaker 3: it's you know, the whole phrase, like it's nothing personal
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 1: Like I think they're just trying to objectively.
Speaker 3: View if that is true, If that rumor's true, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I forget where I saw it. I think it was, uh,
Speaker 3: I don't want to Butcher's name, Don Cleman, Dove Climbing,
Speaker 3: shout out the boy Dove Climbing.
Speaker 1: I don't know who Dove Cleimban is. He was the
Speaker 1: one where I dropped that. The tweet in the chat
Speaker 1: gotcha or put out. Rumor is that the titles are
Speaker 1: shopping Derrick Henry. Going back to what you're saying, like
Speaker 1: I think Derek is this offseason, there's a lot more
Speaker 1: chatter around what do the Titans do with Derek? I
Speaker 1: think that has to do a lot with the player
Speaker 1: of the old line. Last year, the old line did
Speaker 1: not well. Derek is a guy that we've always known
Speaker 1: has to get in his fourth or fifth step before
Speaker 1: and before he gets the line of scrimmage to really
Speaker 1: make those big time moves and get those home run balls.
Speaker 1: Because I get injured. Dennis Seely had a rough season.
Speaker 1: We had a rookie right tackle, Ben Jones was dealing
Speaker 1: with injuries. Nate Davis was dealing with injuries. Aaron Brewer
Speaker 1: rock solid, rock solid about playing every single game. So
Speaker 1: to be honest, like it is, I think people are
Speaker 1: looking at Derek's like, hey, has he lost the step?
Speaker 1: Derek ran for what sixteen hundred yards? Fifteen hundred yards
Speaker 1: with an old line that was pieced together on a
Speaker 1: week to week basis. So if the Titans are shape
Speaker 1: shopping Derek Henry, whoever gets Dererick Henry, you got a
Speaker 1: fucking stud on your hands, boys, an absolute stud on
Speaker 1: your hands. I hope if they are trading him that
Speaker 1: hopefully this is something that Derek wants. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't ask him those type of questions. I just
Speaker 1: hope whatever happens with Derek is what Derek wants to
Speaker 1: happen to Derek. I love Derek. That's why. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm getting that here. I love that man.
Speaker 3: As far as Jeffrey Simmons goes, I mean, if he
Speaker 3: was like when we had Derek gone, he seems to
Speaker 3: have that perspective head on his shoulders where he understands
Speaker 3: that he understands the business.
Speaker 1: He doesn't. He doesn't trust any move that gets made.
Speaker 3: Like when we were talking about You're like, oh, I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna get cut in the two weeks, and
Speaker 3: he was like, you know, he kind of said, what
Speaker 3: are you talking about? He's like, man, I don't even
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen to me. I think he does
Speaker 3: have like he's been around it. He understand how the
Speaker 3: business works, the business side of everything works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Derek does have a very aware understanding of how
Speaker 1: the NFL business works. I hope.
Speaker 3: And again I'm not saying like he's I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that they should or anything.
Speaker 1: I can definitely just see that perspective.
Speaker 3: If I'm sitting there, I personally like, if I was
Speaker 3: the gym, I think you want to weigh every option
Speaker 3: out there. It's like, Yo, what could we potentially get
Speaker 3: out of Derrick Henry because he is fucking King Henry
Speaker 3: for a reason.
Speaker 1: And if some team out there is obsessed.
Speaker 3: With him and would give up pick, if they would
Speaker 3: give up a couple of picks, a couple of players,
Speaker 3: depending on if they fill your knees, it's like, why
Speaker 3: not talk up? You know?
Speaker 1: The interesting thing with the Titans is it seems like
Speaker 1: the teams that have had major success in recent years
Speaker 1: have really played through the free agency game more than
Speaker 1: the draft, Like Kansas City. As successful as they've been,
Speaker 1: they've had very late round picks the last five years,
Speaker 1: so the late first round picks, that thirty first, thirty second,
Speaker 1: like in that range. And so they've been kind of dealing,
Speaker 1: moving around, getting guys, grabbing Juju Smith and those step
Speaker 1: of dudes, the Rams who won, they built their entire
Speaker 1: team through free agency. They said, picks, man, fuck those picks.
Speaker 1: I'd rather get a guy for a second round pick
Speaker 1: that I know can play ball in the league and
Speaker 1: is going to be productive for us. Interesting route that
Speaker 1: Titans seemed to be going in this type of situation.
Speaker 1: Let's see how it works out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're trade, like trading guys to get who who's
Speaker 3: the corner that they ended up getting from the Saints.
Speaker 1: Johnson. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: They were going all in on this year and obviously
Speaker 3: they made it all the way to the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: but they were kind of taking that approach on.
Speaker 1: Draft. They were a few years ago. I have to
Speaker 1: develop type dude.
Speaker 3: They think when they drafted Jalen Ever, they were under
Speaker 3: fire about you know, are they really moving on from
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: He was just an MVP candidate a year or two ago.
Speaker 1: YadA YadA dah.
Speaker 3: They took a lot of heat for that, and obviously
Speaker 3: you've seen how it panned out playing the longer game
Speaker 3: building through the draft, right.
Speaker 1: But the issue when you're playing the longer game is
Speaker 1: what is the patience of the owner. The patience of
Speaker 1: the owner is not good, then you're not going to
Speaker 1: have that three four years to really prove and develop
Speaker 1: your team and get the guys you want in there.
Speaker 1: That's a tough that's a tough deal. Now, some to
Speaker 1: think about Mike Rabels thought process. What if he's thinking
Speaker 1: to himself and this is the we're all We're just
Speaker 1: we're playing like you said. Armchair GM armchair head coach
Speaker 1: if he's thinking, I'm not gonna have the team I've
Speaker 1: had in past years. I've had to get rid of,
Speaker 1: get rid of a lot of veterans. Ben Jon's might retiring.
Speaker 1: We let go of Aryl Lawan. Now we're shopping Jeffrey Simmons.
Speaker 1: We're shopping. Uh, you're not getting Jeffrey Simmons. But Jeffer
Speaker 1: Simons seems like, you know, he's doing the A J.
Speaker 1: Brown technic will see all that unfolds. It seems like
Speaker 1: they're shopping Derek Henry. The whole world's asking what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with Ryan Tannehilly Baby Rabes is maybe doing a
Speaker 1: little uh cya, and he's like, hey, maybe if I
Speaker 1: get these guys out of here, show the draft capitol
Speaker 1: we're about to get in. Gives him a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Cuz if you have King Henry, if you have Jeffrey Simmons,
Speaker 1: and you're putting out shekels the way you have to
Speaker 1: for those two gentlemen, and you're not winning games. You need
Speaker 1: to win games. We know the reality of the NFL.
Speaker 1: The reality the NFL is is that Amy will look
Speaker 1: at it and say, hey, you're not producing the way
Speaker 1: you have been. It's time to move on and try
Speaker 1: to get to the next step again. Mike Rabe, I've
Speaker 1: said at once to say, a thousand times top five
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL Top five. Now there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things we've talked about, the work on, but he's
Speaker 1: still a stud. Yeah, No, he's all stud.
Speaker 3: I think ultimately, like the culture that he builds in
Speaker 3: the formula that the Titans have had in success, I
Speaker 3: think you look at that and think, number one, you
Speaker 3: need we definitely need depth. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like at this point you're destimating, You're getting a rid
Speaker 3: of a lot of guys. You see, not necessarily like rebuild,
Speaker 3: but from the outside looking in, it's like all the
Speaker 3: Titans are looking at going through like a rebuilding process,
Speaker 3: like getting new guys in because you need depth.
Speaker 1: And I think the.
Speaker 3: Cold sure that v Abel ultimately pieces together in the
Speaker 3: formula that the Titans used to win, you might need
Speaker 3: a little bit more capital to do that, and you
Speaker 3: might have to. You know, you're cutting guys, you're freeing
Speaker 3: up cap space, and you're trying to like put together
Speaker 3: a full product, and not just a full product, but
Speaker 3: even death below that because right now the Titans.
Speaker 1: Need a lot. Could you imagine Derek Henry on the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3: Or the Bills. I don't see him on the Bills.
Speaker 3: Like Bills living, but.
Speaker 1: They don't sleep. The Titans win a lot of eleven
Speaker 1: personnel too, Yeah, but not like the Bills. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Bills are not on the ball. A shipload, shipload a
Speaker 1: shipload in the What do you think is that?
Speaker 6: What do you think is ask is what do you
Speaker 6: trade for that?
Speaker 1: Derek? I have absolutely zero clue.
Speaker 3: This is where that's where we don't know. This is
Speaker 3: where my jurisdiction runs out. Like I'm just thinking, like
Speaker 3: I can understand them wanting to shop Derek, Like I'm
Speaker 3: sure everybody's going to be spassy about it, but at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you got to look at
Speaker 3: his age and everything else and just you have to
Speaker 3: play that game on what's best for the future of
Speaker 3: the organization and if we can get more pieces for
Speaker 3: letting go arguably the rest the best running back we've
Speaker 3: had in our entire franchise. Like those are the hard
Speaker 3: decisions that you ultimately have to make when you're in
Speaker 3: the shoes of ram and coach Raves.
Speaker 1: And when you're a new offensive coordinator like Tim Kelly is,
Speaker 1: you don't know the offense is going to be somewhat similar,
Speaker 1: but there might be different play calls. They might be
Speaker 1: trying to air it out a little bit more. They
Speaker 1: might be trying to shop Derek Henry to get that
Speaker 1: quarterback that they want long term love Ryan Tannehill. I
Speaker 1: don't know. These are all the questions that are going
Speaker 1: around circuiting at this time of the year. And let's
Speaker 1: let's not overstate the fact that people overthink everything this
Speaker 1: time of year. This is when everything is micromanaged, overlooked, at, peaked,
Speaker 1: dissected too much.
Speaker 3: So it's fantasy football time. It's fantasy football time, right,
Speaker 3: We're all playing that. Yeah, you know, there are so
Speaker 3: many levels of chess in the NFL that everyone's playing
Speaker 3: a different game. Mike's playing a different game than ran
Speaker 3: Ram's playing a different game than Mike. They're playing also a
Speaker 3: game together, but everyone's also looking at longevity for themselves,
Speaker 3: where they can stay, where they can have the best
Speaker 3: success and look the best. Like there's a lot of
Speaker 3: ego that plays in the NFL. A lot of people.
Speaker 1: About the Jeff Simmons, the Jeff Simmons stuff. You think
Speaker 1: you pay big Jeff You like, if you think he
Speaker 1: can win now, yeah, absolutely, But if you don't, if
Speaker 1: you're going the routey you just talked about, then you
Speaker 1: just gonna get his I don't We've said, we've said
Speaker 1: it before. I don't know Iff's gonna get Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: money because Aaron Donald is that he's that unicorn that
Speaker 1: we all kind of seen, like no one's really doing
Speaker 1: it like him or has done it like him.
Speaker 3: Can you bring up can you bring up the top
Speaker 3: paid that was? I think like sports track or whatever
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: And I think we kind of settled around twenty three
Speaker 1: to twenty five million right in between there, because I
Speaker 1: know Donald's up towards like twenty nine to thirty million.
Speaker 1: I have maybe even thirty two eight. So that's his
Speaker 1: ap y is thirty one point six sixty six probably
Speaker 1: next number.
Speaker 3: Little guy. It goes from Aaron Donald at thirty one
Speaker 3: point six down to DeForest Buckner at twenty one million
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 1: Now take Aaron Donald out of the picture. Now you're
Speaker 1: looking more Jeffrey Simmons will reset the market. Aside from
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald I'm sure Jeffrey wants to reset the market entirely.
Speaker 3: I don't know, do you know how there's a player
Speaker 3: you're like, we might say remove Aaron Donald, but that
Speaker 3: their agency and everything else. They're not like, that's like,
Speaker 3: oh he Aaron Donald reset the market for Detac now,
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're trying to get exactly you're trying to
Speaker 3: get more money or close to that. Whether or not
Speaker 3: we think that that's realistic or whatever is you're obviously
Speaker 3: up for everybody to debate. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, that's players are trying to reset the market
Speaker 3: to establish more and obviously selfishly like get the bag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely plays into what we were talking about,
Speaker 1: Like that parts out of our jurisdiction. But if I
Speaker 1: if you're his agent, like you said, you're saying thirty
Speaker 1: one is the floor, buddy, you're trying that's what you're
Speaker 1: trying to base. You're a stud. You're you're a arguably
Speaker 1: top three d tackle in the entire NFL at a
Speaker 1: young age. You those top three guys right there, all studs,
Speaker 1: all way older than jeff So that's what you're looking
Speaker 1: at to You're like, I got a young guy in
Speaker 1: his prime. We can pay him this money. You find
Speaker 1: the team with the best draft, uh, with the best
Speaker 1: financial capital to make that happen. You're looking in a
Speaker 1: good situation there. Yeah, but you want to give Jeff.
Speaker 1: You got to give that first round pick plus, Like
Speaker 1: he is that type of dude that you got to
Speaker 1: give a first round pick to get him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think you got to pay Jeff.
Speaker 3: I think he's a cornerstone. I think he's in the trenches.
Speaker 1: He's violent. We all know how Rabes loves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's nasty, he's violent, he finishes. The dude is
Speaker 3: all effort. He plays injured, He does all of the
Speaker 3: stuff that you want in a player. And he's a
Speaker 3: fucking stuff a dog. He's an absolute dog. Gets pressure
Speaker 3: and when you get that internal pressure too, and you
Speaker 3: got the quarterback moving in the bikey like, Jeff is
Speaker 3: everything number one. We all obviously everybody knows that Vrabe
Speaker 3: loves him, but Jeff is He's somebody you look to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, build a franchise around, not like the singular person,
Speaker 3: but he is a piece and you're like, yo, we
Speaker 3: want this fucking freaking nature up front to build the
Speaker 3: defense around because you got running hill linebackers all day,
Speaker 3: and like I know David Long, they're gonna be looking
Speaker 3: at paying Hopefully the boy David Long gets paid as well,
Speaker 3: because he's a nasty player too. But you need guys
Speaker 3: like Jeff, Like you got a building in the trenches,
Speaker 3: and I think Jeff, it's like he's he's one of
Speaker 3: the best, if not the best defensive tackle in the
Speaker 3: game right now. Yeah, absolutely, Derek Carr goes to the Saints.
Speaker 3: The boy got number one. Hey, Derek Carr going to
Speaker 3: the Saints.
Speaker 1: We got his contract. Look at that, dude. That is
Speaker 1: oh yeah, what I wonder what he did? So yeah,
Speaker 1: because here's what happened with Derek Carr when he was
Speaker 1: at the Raiders when they were trying to trade him.
Speaker 1: The Saints were obviously interested. At that time, they were
Speaker 1: trying to finalize a deal with the Saints the Saints.
Speaker 1: Allegedly what I heard is he wanted to take a
Speaker 1: pay cut, or the Saints wanted him to take a
Speaker 1: pay cut. Derek Carr said no, and then so the
Speaker 1: deal did not get done. He decided to go test
Speaker 1: free agency, ends up on the Saints. Once again. Do
Speaker 1: we know the contract the five year contract.
Speaker 3: I would assume it'd be on Twitter Adam Schefter, Ian
Speaker 3: Rappaport would have already.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But a lot of times when these when these
Speaker 1: deals get done, they're not finite, like, well, no, he's
Speaker 1: got to fly there now.
Speaker 3: Ian one hundred and fifty million dollars deal years one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million with one hundred million in total guarantees,
Speaker 3: gets seventy million, effectively fully guaranteed sixty million at signing,
Speaker 3: another ten in year three, vesting after year one. Car
Speaker 3: structures this deal to accommodate Saints' cap issues. Shout out
Speaker 3: the sign that's a fat signing bonusw that is pretty outstandings.
Speaker 3: Diif a boy per year is what it looks like
Speaker 3: the average the boy, I think so, I mean, well,
Speaker 3: we're going to take the NFC.
Speaker 1: Number one, number one quarterback in that division. I was
Speaker 1: going to say NFC South.
Speaker 3: Now the Saints have now established a third team that
Speaker 3: has a quarterback, because the other teams that's basically the
Speaker 3: question mark on the NFC South, nobody has a quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think the Saints now elevate to the team to
Speaker 3: beat in the NFC South based on the stair car
Speaker 3: signing because you got a lot of good pieces still
Speaker 3: on defense vets, but good veteran leadership. That organization is awesome.
Speaker 3: Their facilities are nice. Now they could work on their
Speaker 3: cafeteria in their lunch room. But other than that, well
Speaker 3: run organization. I love the people there and the players
Speaker 3: that are still there. It's well like it's a player
Speaker 3: ran police locker room. I'm talking high accountability. I'm not
Speaker 3: talking players do whatever they want. I'm talking Cam Jordan
Speaker 3: Tomorrio Davis. I would assume Tyron Matthew. But those dudes
Speaker 3: are fucking leaders leaders. So he's going into a good situation.
Speaker 1: And don't see but Odell Beckham junior guy went to LSU,
Speaker 1: he's from Louisiana. Get a good quarterback like their car.
Speaker 1: Maybe he wants to take a friendly deal. Odell's Odell
Speaker 1: is an elite athlete based in a couple of years.
Speaker 1: He's in a situation I am now, we're here to
Speaker 1: get into a proved deal, sign a lower, lower deal
Speaker 1: with incentive, incentive to get you up to a number
Speaker 1: that you're happy with. And I think that might be
Speaker 1: a good little spot for Odell as well. That would
Speaker 1: be a nice little spot, add them a little more
Speaker 1: firepower and that quickly. It's March sixth. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you what's gonna happen in the NFC South next year.
Speaker 1: One Saints are gonna win it. Two is gonna be
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Three's gonna be the Panthers. Buccaneers are
Speaker 1: gonna take a big, big dive and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: fourth in the NFL hard. So you're going, you're going
Speaker 1: in March. You're going pre pre pre because I can
Speaker 1: say what I want right now. I'm going, We're going
Speaker 1: to do this in the beginning of the year. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking right now, looking at that, knowing Tom Brady left,
Speaker 1: knowing the Panthers started to do well towards the end
Speaker 1: of the season, knowing Arthur Smith. We love Arthur Smith,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a stud coach and he's going
Speaker 1: to really teat the next step this year. I think
Speaker 1: those three teams elevate. I think the Buccaneers go down
Speaker 1: to the bottom.
Speaker 3: I can definitely see Buccaneers going down to the bottom
Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah, you think Panthers others Panthers love and
Speaker 3: respect for Art, That's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1: The Falcons. But I think it's between the Saints and
Speaker 1: the Panthers.
Speaker 3: I think the Panthers have a very good roster in
Speaker 3: their quarterback a way, and they are hiring a coach
Speaker 3: Frank Wright.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good coach. I can't believe the Indianapolis Colts got
Speaker 1: rid of him.
Speaker 3: May not believe that good coach. And you know, Rabe
Speaker 3: always talked about the culture that the Colts had built,
Speaker 3: Like every every time that we would play the Colts,
Speaker 3: he would always go on and on about how they
Speaker 3: are a team that's structured and culture wise put together
Speaker 3: a lot like us.
Speaker 1: The Titans, hard nosed team, great special teams, play hard
Speaker 1: on defense, awareness, game awareness, situation the ball and off
Speaker 1: and it's like it was always a game of chess
Speaker 1: when you play the Colts.
Speaker 3: And the Panthers brought in the boy Dangel Hall to
Speaker 3: uh fill one of their coaching spots. Really Visa, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think the Hall is gonna be a helving it.
Speaker 3: That is your boy, is my boy. I do think
Speaker 3: I think right now it's safe to say that Saints
Speaker 3: are the team the beats since they have the quarterback
Speaker 3: and Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's between the Panthers and Saints
Speaker 1: this year. But boys, that we're a week away from
Speaker 1: free agency madness, and we will see a lot more
Speaker 1: things unfold in the next two weeks, especially those first
Speaker 1: three days of free agency. We're gonna see what teams
Speaker 1: are really going for it this year. And one team
Speaker 1: you're taking a step back and saying, hey, we're in
Speaker 1: a rebuilt situation. That's another one to keep the eye on.
Speaker 1: The Titans on limbo. Boys, Titans are truly in purgatory.
Speaker 1: Are they going to heaven or hell? This year? We
Speaker 1: have no idea we are going to find out of it.
Speaker 3: There will be teams you just don't make a lot
Speaker 3: of movement, maybe because they feel good about the roster too,
Speaker 3: and then they might just they like what they might
Speaker 3: be able to get in the draft. The Chicago Bears,
Speaker 3: it seems like it's out there now that they're willing
Speaker 3: to trade the first overall pick. Tells you they feel
Speaker 3: really good about justin fields and you got that first
Speaker 3: overall pick. Dude, Bryce Young comes to mind, But you
Speaker 3: got that first overall pick. A team that needs a
Speaker 3: quarterback who might be willing to make some sacrifices to
Speaker 3: make moves to get there.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. It'll be fun too.
Speaker 3: I think this is where it gets fun for everybody
Speaker 3: who you know, like myself now who's fell back and
Speaker 3: played the fantasy football.
Speaker 1: Game a little bit more. These these are these are
Speaker 1: the times where you get a little excited. What are
Speaker 1: you excited for? Uh? What are you hoping to see
Speaker 1: next week? What free agency opens up? Personally? Taylorwan, Well,
Speaker 1: that's a kind of it's kind of a vague, broadstroke
Speaker 1: question because like obviously, playing for the Times for the
Speaker 1: nine years, I want to see what they do and
Speaker 1: where they feel like they need to fill holes in
Speaker 1: free agency. And then once they do that.
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about player, Oh, Taylor Wan, free agency
Speaker 3: opens it obviously, it's it's a situation for you too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I guess we are the best unemployed NFL
Speaker 3: podcasts in the world right now. But what are you
Speaker 3: now that you're on the open market, what are you
Speaker 3: hoping to Well, I can technically be signed by a
Speaker 3: team right now. Here's how my situation would work. I've
Speaker 3: had lots of teams. I've had lots of teams reach
Speaker 3: out to about a dozen teams. We've had conversations. There
Speaker 3: are teams that are interested, there are teams that are
Speaker 3: just kind of poking around. The next step for me
Speaker 3: would be to go see them, to fly to these
Speaker 3: different establishments and have their doctors put their hands on me.
Speaker 3: I've told my guys like, hey, listen, let me get
Speaker 3: my knee a little healthier. Let me see how this
Speaker 3: thing's going to work. Because I've already said it once,
Speaker 3: I'll say it a thousand times. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: play this game to collect to check unless I know
Speaker 3: I can really be something on the field that's worth
Speaker 3: paying for. Now, my contract wouldn't be, you know, some
Speaker 3: sort of massive contract or anything like that, but it's
Speaker 3: going to be a longer game for me.
Speaker 1: I think my signing would be more towards camp and
Speaker 1: that type of situation, given that my knee is able
Speaker 1: to do the things that I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: Tweets that were going around yesterday because you said it
Speaker 3: on an NFL network. By the way, you did a
Speaker 3: phenomenal job. I appreciate that, buddy covering the draft, but
Speaker 3: there are a lot of tweets circulating because you said
Speaker 3: that you would not play right tackle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you'd be good at it, so
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be good at it. It's also my
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know I would not be good at
Speaker 1: that's fair to say I would be a dog shit
Speaker 1: right tackle. I literally played right the only time I've
Speaker 1: ever played right tack on my life. Not saying you
Speaker 1: can say that you are more than we'll going to
Speaker 1: stay because.
Speaker 5: It's the truth.
Speaker 3: In one of your little draft videos, I saw you
Speaker 3: work on the right side when you did a little circles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was the thing I was in the
Speaker 1: combin I was that was the most stressed out about
Speaker 1: that situation. Right, really, Oh I'll fall, don't fall? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you you can watch the fluidity and those
Speaker 1: if those videos, if you want to go back and
Speaker 1: look at it. My my my reach in my stance
Speaker 1: is not as far. My hip does rotate a little
Speaker 1: bit more where it opens up to the left because
Speaker 1: I've been in left handed stance for so long, so
Speaker 1: when I go to getting a right handed stance, it's
Speaker 1: it's basically like, folks, if you if you're if you're
Speaker 1: right handed, go eat with your left hand. That's kind
Speaker 1: of how it feels to me to be a right tackle.
Speaker 1: I will not play right tackle. I'll never play right tackle.
Speaker 1: That is a non negotiable for me. So all those
Speaker 1: teams out there say, hey, come to the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers and play right tackle. No, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Come come to this team play it. No I am
Speaker 1: I'm and that's not like that is a little bit
Speaker 1: of ego, but it's also I I'm good at one thing.
Speaker 1: I am not like a Swiss Army knife of ability
Speaker 1: when it comes to the NFL. I am good at
Speaker 1: one individual position, and that is the left tackle position.
Speaker 1: To play across the entire line of script. You know, no,
Speaker 1: not like you, but you know what they say, the
Speaker 1: more you can do, the less you get paid. So
Speaker 1: if you're good at just one thing, thank god. The uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm excited to see all that all all
Speaker 1: unfolds because there are some teams out there that that
Speaker 1: have reached out, some contenders, some teams that are trying
Speaker 1: to work their way up, and it's, uh, it'll be
Speaker 1: cool to see how they attack this free agency draft.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good insight too that you give
Speaker 3: on that perspective, just because it is easy to get
Speaker 3: caught up and like you know, playing mad and then
Speaker 3: moving a left tackle to a right tackle, they drop
Speaker 3: a little bit and overall but ultimately, like hearing you
Speaker 3: talk about it, you brought up the analogy of if
Speaker 3: you're right handed, trying to eat with your left hand,
Speaker 3: that's how you feel. So, yeah, you're not gonna Some
Speaker 3: guys are just strictly like they're extremely good at one
Speaker 3: thing and that's what you want to do and that's
Speaker 3: where you feel best that right.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: But I think it's good to speak to just because
Speaker 3: everybody out there is like, man, why not it seems
Speaker 3: like you could just and by listening to you, it
Speaker 3: sounds like it's just not that simple.
Speaker 1: Now, it's it's not in the cars for me. From
Speaker 1: I can't do it physically. I guess I could if
Speaker 1: I worked at it hard enough, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: to because then the other part comes into it where
Speaker 1: I have a weird thing about being a left tackle.
Speaker 1: It's the position when I was growing up that like,
Speaker 1: if you're the stud, if you're the dude that can
Speaker 1: move his feed well in his athletic that's the position
Speaker 1: you play. And I took that to heart and so
Speaker 1: I'm big on that. A guy that can do both things.
Speaker 1: Nick potite Perer the right tackle for the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: He was rookie this past year. I asked him because
Speaker 1: he played left tackle at Ohiose State before he came
Speaker 1: to the Titans, and I was like, hey man, how
Speaker 1: do you feel in the right handed stands? And he's like,
Speaker 1: it feels the exact same to me. It's nothing. So
Speaker 1: he has that ability to kind of work across the
Speaker 1: board from an old linement online positional standpoint and keep
Speaker 1: the same production level alive, which is good for the
Speaker 1: Titans because you need guys like that, Like it's great
Speaker 1: to have a guy like me that can do something
Speaker 1: at a high level for a long time in one position,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times having dudes you can move
Speaker 1: in and out, whether it's interior X tier that is.
Speaker 1: That is a good thing to have because you know,
Speaker 1: it kind of gives you more depth with one guy
Speaker 1: kind of like you can work all across the punt
Speaker 1: the punt, uh, all across, all across. Yeah, your core
Speaker 1: four tea, you need me a wing everything, but get
Speaker 1: on the ball, get on the ball on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to pass rush absolutely, Like just because I'm an
Speaker 3: inside backer, doesn't mean I could play outside backer right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel you on that.
Speaker 1: It would it would essentially be like that discomfort you
Speaker 1: have is the discomfort I would have.
Speaker 3: Like anytime I would have to play on the left
Speaker 3: side for punt team, I always felt way more vulnerable
Speaker 3: because I enjoy the right I feel way more comfortable
Speaker 3: in my stands and my strength and everything else.
Speaker 1: On the right side. Got a great kick, good kicks.
Speaker 1: We've seen the videos out there. Wing too. Holders are square.
Speaker 1: You have a good post hand, post hand, Yeah, it's solid,
Speaker 1: good eyes and too pun team. You're holding up. You
Speaker 1: know there's a certain amount of time you had a
Speaker 1: hold up. Yeah, and so you good. Do good with
Speaker 1: that post hands. He needs to try to run a
Speaker 1: game or something like that, and you win with your eyes.
Speaker 1: You win with your eyes.
Speaker 8: Hey, I got a question for you, Taylor, take money
Speaker 8: aside of everything. When you're looking like at other teams,
Speaker 8: what are like the top three?
Speaker 1: You're like a couple of.
Speaker 8: Things it is most appealing to you from a franchise perspective,
Speaker 8: Like is it the location? Would it be like players
Speaker 8: or facilities? Because it's like a fan I like that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, uh for me, question, I don't let I've
Speaker 1: only known one facility, and that facility started garbage and
Speaker 1: got a whole lot better as the time went. Still
Speaker 1: needs a lot of work. But oh yeah, yeah times, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're middle of the road. I don't know
Speaker 1: that you would know that. You would know that much
Speaker 1: better than me in those in those grades came out,
Speaker 1: we could talk. Then we were middle of the road
Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, I could not care less about facilities.
Speaker 1: Location is one thing, but really, here's like my critier.
Speaker 1: If a team on to play for, I want to
Speaker 1: play for a team that has the opportunity to win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I want I here comes the ego again.
Speaker 1: I wear the number seventy seven. I want that fucking number.
Speaker 1: And if I go to a team that has a
Speaker 1: guy with seventy seven, hey, Bud, I enjoy it because
Speaker 1: you're about to get paid. I'm paying you for that number.
Speaker 3: I well know who's your therapist. I need a we
Speaker 3: gotta get on the phone. Then we're talking about a number. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're talking about a number.
Speaker 1: A number. Yeah, we're talking about a number. And then
Speaker 1: my third cart team and This is not a joke.
Speaker 1: Will Compton has to come with too. That's not a joke.
Speaker 1: So if you want me, you got to get Will.
Speaker 1: And I've already said, I said an NFL network yesterday,
Speaker 1: I will Will. He will play for minimum. He will
Speaker 1: play for minimum. He's sitting up now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't appreciate you being my agent and from
Speaker 3: that same point, playing for minimum because we got a market.
Speaker 3: Now mean we got like I'm saying, like, you've already
Speaker 3: established that I would play for minimum, like I would
Speaker 3: never pay you to be my agent, because that's that's
Speaker 3: as bad.
Speaker 1: As a gaint. I said, hey, you will play for minimum.
Speaker 1: I'll get you minimum, but I'll get you a week
Speaker 1: one roster, so you know you paid the entire year.
Speaker 1: See that. Now that's that's solid. We can talk about it.
Speaker 1: We talk about it. That's fair enough. You know, I
Speaker 1: get you know what I mean. Never make I never
Speaker 1: I never like to make it. Will do unique quirks.
Speaker 1: If you were saying, hey, is will fly by the
Speaker 1: seat of his pants kind of guy? Absolutely not. He
Speaker 1: is actually actually the opposite of that individual. But yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that question. I don't think too much about facilities, sauce.
Speaker 1: I've been through the worst of them, and now I
Speaker 1: guess I've been in the middle of the road to them.
Speaker 1: But super Bowl Contender seventy seven Will Compton, those are
Speaker 1: the three things enjoy that that is and that is,
Speaker 1: that's not a joke. And I played left tackle. There's
Speaker 1: four so yeah that that's really it, but not so
Speaker 1: much about it.
Speaker 3: What if you got, uh, super Bowl contender Will Compton, No.
Speaker 3: Number seventy seven, Oh, super Bowl contender seventy seven, Will Compton.
Speaker 3: But they wanted you to play right tackle because you
Speaker 3: just said left tackles like four.
Speaker 1: Oh No, I've already established very heavily in the last
Speaker 1: five minutes of this podcast, I'm not playing right tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put me on the right tackle. Put me put the
Speaker 1: right tackle. Go ahead, because guess what happens. You guys
Speaker 1: are gonna lose so many fucking gamesff like that, Huh.
Speaker 1: I don't believe myself a right tackle, but I believe
Speaker 1: myself at left tackle absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: clearly so believe. But you did frame it like you
Speaker 1: don't believe. You usually said you don't believe in yourself
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Because you just said I'm gonna give up a lot
Speaker 3: of sacks and we're gonna suck right Absolutely. That literally
Speaker 3: says I suck at right tackle. Ye, it's bad. I
Speaker 3: would look like, uh, the Chandler Jones game. Every game.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who the fucking individual is at right tackle.
Speaker 3: That's how the game would look.
Speaker 1: So if you guys want that right tackle, got ahead
Speaker 1: and sign me. Then the weekend, what are out standing
Speaker 1: weekend for the boys? I hope you guys are falling
Speaker 1: along weekend well, Compton went to Calabasas I went to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: I'd love to start with you will because I've done
Speaker 1: a lot of words in this in this part, and
Speaker 1: I like to take a little bit of a break
Speaker 1: talk to us about the fight. Companion. Dude, it was
Speaker 1: a good fucking time. Yeah, Like it was a good hang.
Speaker 3: It felt like a little pre It felt like a
Speaker 3: little we were about to have a little slumper party.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 3: That's how high the vibes were. Really, I'm talking, we're
Speaker 3: talking about wild shit.
Speaker 1: Obviously.
Speaker 3: I threw in the question I love to throw in,
Speaker 3: like what's your price to suck a dick?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: To ram pays Jackson, which I thought would be number one.
Speaker 3: Rampayed Jackson one of my favorite fighters of all time.
Speaker 3: The only afflictioning shirt I ever wore in high school
Speaker 3: was Rampaged Jackson.
Speaker 1: So when he came in, I had a little bit
Speaker 1: of like, fuck, that's fucking rampage Jacksman, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Ye. By the end of it, bro, I mean, it
Speaker 3: was a good time. I got a little loop, I
Speaker 3: get a little sauced up on the on the whiskey. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the tiger, thick whiskey, phenomenal whiskey, very smooth, sire.
Speaker 1: You see your eyes kind of doing this as the
Speaker 1: show went on longer and longer. Oh you was little, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, Yeah, yeah, dude. It was a good time.
Speaker 3: It was a good hang with good laughs, good jokes.
Speaker 3: We're watching the fights. I sometimes I forgot that the
Speaker 3: fights were moving on because we're just the boys were
Speaker 3: just in it having camaraderie. The vibes were high. But
Speaker 3: it was a fucking good time. I would love to
Speaker 3: do it again. Be was texting talking about you know,
Speaker 3: everybody was raving about the comera or the chemistry going
Speaker 3: on and everything else. It's like, would love to have
Speaker 3: you back. So it's awesome though. I'm all for it
Speaker 3: that she was that she was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Rampage bro, Like, that's so cool, rampage Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the stories he was telling about he
Speaker 1: grew up and his cousin and all that shit like that.
Speaker 1: Was talking about how he lost with Virginia five years.
Speaker 3: Old, which I don't even know that's possible. I don't either,
Speaker 3: but he was talking about it and some of the stuff.
Speaker 3: I do want to withhold because I want to get
Speaker 3: him on the bus. Yeah, and I want him to
Speaker 3: tell those same stories again, talking recapping him him talking
Speaker 3: about hide and.
Speaker 1: Go get It? Yeah, that part I did not hear
Speaker 1: that part.
Speaker 3: You know, normally, you grow up as a child, if
Speaker 3: you're in a decent you know home, Yeah, decent home.
Speaker 1: You you play hide and go seek.
Speaker 3: Some of these boys out here, which I learned in
Speaker 3: training camp with Washington, some of these boys are.
Speaker 1: Out here playing something called hide and go get it.
Speaker 1: You're saying boys pretty hard, like you're saying it in
Speaker 1: a unique way. In what kind of way this boys
Speaker 1: out here? Oh you know what I'm saying me? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you might be a little bit I think if.
Speaker 3: You, I think, if you're not racist, you just don't
Speaker 3: have like I'm not even thinking about that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm thinking some of the boys number one,
Speaker 3: I say boys literally, like that's part of my language,
Speaker 3: is part of.
Speaker 1: My teammates play this game called hide and Go get
Speaker 1: It with their friends. What does that mean? I can
Speaker 1: go get it? Is you hide like you're playing think
Speaker 1: of hide and seek?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the many the manuye you find them, you
Speaker 3: get to dry hump them or do whatever for like
Speaker 3: five minutes. Yeah, I'm not fucking joking. I didn't get raped. Hey,
Speaker 3: we had once he made man. He was so funny.
Speaker 3: I won't say his name, but dude, he was fucking
Speaker 3: You would go and it's one of those guys you
Speaker 3: want to you hope there's an open spot at the
Speaker 3: table because you want to sit and listen to some
Speaker 3: of the sheet.
Speaker 1: He's gonna say. Yeah, and he was talking about hide
Speaker 1: and go get it.
Speaker 3: And he's from Mississippi, so he had he had his
Speaker 3: accent going on. He's like, man, some of the females
Speaker 3: i't Finally they'd be like, oh no, he'll come here,
Speaker 3: come here, bro, when we're just dying laughing, like obviously
Speaker 3: laughing at that is like you know, I'm thinking of
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of the humor of him telling the story.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they would play this game called Hide and
Speaker 3: Go Get It. Now all their friends they'd get together
Speaker 3: they play Hide and Go get It. If you get found,
Speaker 3: you get dry humped, you make out, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: I think that's a game. That's a game. Wow.
Speaker 3: I think if we get this clip, there will probably
Speaker 3: be a lot of people out there and be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we played that game.
Speaker 1: That's a wild fucking story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 1: love to have Rampage Jackson on the show. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought you did a really good job too. I will say.
Speaker 1: My one little deal I didn't like about the YouTube
Speaker 1: streaming was there was no comments. We're like, people watching
Speaker 1: can kind of just like chill and oh really each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah it was. That
Speaker 1: was the only bummer because I was kind of looking
Speaker 1: forward to sitting there watching you guys talk about because
Speaker 1: I also had the fights up, but I was gonna
Speaker 1: I was kind of a part of the two. I
Speaker 1: was gonna be in the comment section on It was
Speaker 1: fun though. Man, it was a good time. The hotel.
Speaker 3: They put me in a super nice, very nice, very
Speaker 3: nice bed, comfortable you felt like you get lost in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, around, but it was a good time. Man. It
Speaker 1: was fun.
Speaker 3: Take that a couple of pillows. The pillows made it.
Speaker 3: The pillows survived, but barely. Not really, not really. I
Speaker 3: feel like I I've matured a little bit. I like
Speaker 3: to think I've matured a little bit to where that
Speaker 3: only happens. That thought only happens rarely on occasion, So
Speaker 3: I'm not looking at pillow sideways.
Speaker 1: The thoughts really happened, though. When you get to a hotel.
Speaker 3: Room, yeah yeah, when you sit up in a hotel room,
Speaker 3: your animal brain turns on and I'm gonna do some
Speaker 3: crazy shitn't here by myself?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no doubt, no doubt. That is how the fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun talk about talk about Adianapolis and adian
Speaker 1: Appolis was great. Man. I was pretty stressed out in
Speaker 1: the beginning of the week because I didn't know what
Speaker 1: the hell I had to wear if I had to
Speaker 1: wear a suit and not wear suit, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the dress code was, and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be the only guy there not wearing a suit,
Speaker 1: So that was kind of the only stress I really had.
Speaker 1: And then once I found out during the live stream
Speaker 1: it was kind of set up like the college football
Speaker 1: playoff was, where we're on the field, we're watching drills,
Speaker 1: and we're just talking about what we're seeing as that's
Speaker 1: going on. I was with Sean O'Hara, I was with
Speaker 1: the legendary Joe Thomas. Dion Dawkins, the left having for
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills was there and myself, that was great, dude.
Speaker 1: I had a great time with them, a lot of
Speaker 1: good chemistry with those guys. I've always enjoyed each of
Speaker 1: them and our own individual ways. But when you brought
Speaker 1: us four together, I thought we did a great job.
Speaker 1: I thought Sean and Joe, being the professionals that they are,
Speaker 1: really did a good job of kind of pointing the
Speaker 1: entire show and then giving me and Dean opportunities to
Speaker 1: speak on expertise. Even though they are, you know, especially Joe,
Speaker 1: they're they're just the bas built like a house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's absolutely fucking unit. And my favorite thing about Dion
Speaker 1: nobody just formula with that man. If you look at
Speaker 1: his profile picture on Twitter, I hope he can put
Speaker 1: his little thing up on YouTube. Get the boy a
Speaker 1: little bit of love. But his profile Twitter is him
Speaker 1: rounding a base at a softball game with a vest
Speaker 1: on and he got titties and stomach going everywhere. Dude,
Speaker 1: he's you don't know what direction he's going on that.
Speaker 1: He's just fucking living it. Dude. I really like Dion.
Speaker 1: I think he is uh really, Yeah, there's the picture
Speaker 1: right there. He's a he's a great talent. He's a
Speaker 1: great talent. He's a guy that you can just tell
Speaker 1: just doesn't take it too seriously. So loved being around him.
Speaker 1: His keyword of the day was swag because that was
Speaker 1: a I don't know, whatever you want to say. They
Speaker 1: pulled up videos of us and everything. It was just
Speaker 1: a cool time. Mam. You can just tell how chizzled
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is. Yeah, Joe looks great. Chizzled Joe looks phenomenal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's getting down. I think he's about to go on
Speaker 1: a hike to Machu Pichu.
Speaker 5: Is that what's called?
Speaker 1: He's about to do that. He's about two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty seven pounds right now, but the he looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: He was on the field.
Speaker 3: I saw a photo of him on the field with
Speaker 3: this massive left tackle.
Speaker 1: That was that was Paris Johnson Junior from Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think it was a photo you posted
Speaker 3: some about tit could potentially get him. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 3: just bro the amount of weight look at him in
Speaker 3: that photo. Yeah, the physique Joe has now compared to
Speaker 3: standing next to a left tackle is insane. And by
Speaker 3: the way, that what's what's the kid's name, Paris Johnson Jr.
Speaker 1: His quads, Oh my god, he definitely has that. But
Speaker 1: he's got that skinnier lay build Paris does, but very
Speaker 1: athletically built he is. He's a guy when you watch
Speaker 1: when you watch Paris' film, he's not the most technically
Speaker 1: sound offensive lineman on the board right now that's going
Speaker 1: to go to the tackle at Northwestern Skeronski. He is
Speaker 1: probably the best, most well developed player that someone's gonna
Speaker 1: get put in right away through either a tackle or guard.
Speaker 1: But when you have a guy like Paris, Paris is
Speaker 1: a dude with extreme athletic ability that's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to go in, be molded and shaped and could potentially
Speaker 1: be a perennial Pro Bowl guy. He probably has the
Speaker 1: highest ceiling of any guy in that draft. I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of Paris student. He was very I saw
Speaker 1: him on the field.
Speaker 3: Go to the Twitter photo Taylor posted with Joe Thomas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because there's a yeah, different one Joe's on the field.
Speaker 3: Where go to Taylor's profile.
Speaker 1: It might be that I work to be on Joe's
Speaker 1: Instagram as well. There it is right there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, he's got Yeah, he's he's a smaller cast with
Speaker 3: that VMO is definitely storming outside.
Speaker 1: He's built very well, and of all the drills, the
Speaker 1: changing direction drills and all that. Because he didn't run
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did the vertical of the
Speaker 1: broad or anything like that, but he didn't run the forty,
Speaker 1: which I was I was disappointed in because I wanted
Speaker 1: to see it. I don't think it affected his draft
Speaker 1: stock at all. But the forties weren't as fast as
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna be. I think the fastest
Speaker 1: time was like a four nine nine, and I thought
Speaker 1: he was a guy with the athletic ability that could
Speaker 1: probably get out and get under that four nine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Long arms, long arms, Yeah, dude, he he's got He's
Speaker 1: got a good opportunity and they're doing they're doing the
Speaker 1: bench press today. So I did that and I was
Speaker 1: able to go upstairs with Daniel, Jeremiah and Rich and dude.
Speaker 1: That was probably one of the more probably the highlight
Speaker 1: of my day. I loved being around those guys in
Speaker 1: the field, but being around Rich and getting to know
Speaker 1: Rich for the last nine ten years and having that
Speaker 1: kind of chemistry with him, and I've known Daniel for
Speaker 1: nine years as well, so it was just very comfortable,
Speaker 1: very fun to be up there. It's very coolesteing a
Speaker 1: bird's eye view of those guys running the forties and
Speaker 1: just kind of picking Daniel's brain the way he looks
Speaker 1: at things. We talked aboutlu It's Olu or oh Law
Speaker 1: the Center for University of Michigan. He was the Remington
Speaker 1: Award winner and the first Allen Trophy winner in Michigan history.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, these draft boards come
Speaker 1: out and he's like the third center on the board, Like,
Speaker 1: how does that even fucking happen? Daniels explained to me,
Speaker 1: like that's a media base award that he's a part
Speaker 1: of the Joe Moore Award winning offensive line boom, and
Speaker 1: now you have his words, not mine. The professionals now
Speaker 1: deciding who is the best in the draft as forest movement.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who was another good one, Mitchell, You're
Speaker 1: gonna love this is that center, that center for Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I thought did a great job of moving mobility. Not
Speaker 1: built like a house like our boy Olu here. But
Speaker 1: that man. I think his name is Luke Luke Whipel
Speaker 1: Luke wipel I believe.
Speaker 6: Is his name.
Speaker 1: He's a center w y P l E. Wipeler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did a good job, not he He definitely has
Speaker 1: more that Jason Kelsey builds. He can move around very well,
Speaker 1: very fluid athlete. I thought he did a good job.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a he's gonna make himself in a
Speaker 1: nice little career in the NFL. But it was fun, man.
Speaker 1: I had a great time. Gotten the gott in the car.
Speaker 1: After that, went to uh Saint Elmos, grabbed the cocktail
Speaker 1: sauce for us. Got about six bottles too, sir, Did
Speaker 1: you bring it? I didn't bring it. I'll bring it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh my my driver, my driver, his name is Night.
Speaker 1: He picks me up at seven am and drove me
Speaker 1: all the way to Indianapoli because it's a littly faster than
Speaker 1: getting on an airplane. After I was like, hey, you hungry,
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm hungry, and I was like, let's
Speaker 1: cook at dinner. So it's just me and him at
Speaker 1: Saint Elmo's in there. Got a mistake oscar style? It
Speaker 1: was nice? Was the was this from cocktail? I had
Speaker 1: two of them, fire bro, because you know what, the
Speaker 1: teeth I can't chewing, like too far up, So I
Speaker 1: was really chewing in the back and that ship was you.
Speaker 1: That show has moving me around a little bit back there,
Speaker 1: bub noses, noses dripping a little bit, eyes were watering.
Speaker 1: But buddy, I was having a great fucking time with it.
Speaker 1: To chase. Yeah, Mitchie, what you got.
Speaker 5: For Jack's sake? What any any movement on Rich getting
Speaker 5: him on the on the bus?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rich is down to come on the bus. It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of getting him out here. I think
Speaker 1: these next couple of months might be the best time
Speaker 1: to get Rich out when he's not doing a show
Speaker 1: because the drafts in a few months, uh freeze. He's
Speaker 1: gonna hit. So it all depends on his schedule. But
Speaker 1: he for those of you listening. Rich has tried to
Speaker 1: come on the podcast on three separatecasions or two separate
Speaker 1: occasions camp last year, and that's a super Bowl super Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we actually declined that one. I said that
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. But a great dude. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great hang when he finally comes on, and it'll
Speaker 1: be judgment day for Jack and we'll see everything after that.
Speaker 8: I have a pretty strong hunch that that'll be a
Speaker 8: well kept seecret.
Speaker 1: And I think he's just gonna show up one day.
Speaker 1: That's just my thoughts on it. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: think about that, but maybe we just do that nice
Speaker 1: a little surprised ranchising coming on. Now, if you do
Speaker 1: win that Chevrolet, do you want us to get the Chevrolet?
Speaker 1: Win Rich comes on or after which comes on and
Speaker 1: we've gone through all of our homework, you get the Chevrolet.
Speaker 1: M I don't know. That's all. That's the game we're playing,
Speaker 1: isn't it. I'll tell you who just got a Chevrolet
Speaker 1: is trailing Burks, which says a lot about the career
Speaker 1: He's about to have. Very durable, reliable individual hopefully coming
Speaker 1: in the coming years. He just I saw on the
Speaker 1: Instagram today he got himself a z R one good
Speaker 1: looking vehicle. It's probably the same one I got. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably it seemed like I had a little left on
Speaker 1: a little more meat potatoes on whatever that or something.
Speaker 1: The twenty three I think is nice. Bro.
Speaker 3: That shit is fucking awesome. I need to get me some.
Speaker 3: It's got nice tires on, but I need some one.
Speaker 3: I need a little bit wider to where it barely
Speaker 3: sticks out, barely barely remember my old platinum flex like that, bro,
Speaker 3: where it just kind of sticks out a little bit
Speaker 3: on the side.
Speaker 1: Put some put some rims on it. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not that vibe, not that vibe.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not talking about jacking it up and doing
Speaker 3: all that stuff to where you got the tires wide.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I do have a small piece, but I don't need
Speaker 3: to do the whole over conversation on it.
Speaker 1: Do you need to put like a nice little leveling
Speaker 1: kid on it? Though you got one. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it as is.
Speaker 3: I think I want tires and I want some wheels
Speaker 3: on it, like some I want it kind of.
Speaker 1: I want it kind of to be like the don't
Speaker 1: say that bleep that out, thank you yeah, yeah, definitely bleep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I want to I want to be like
Speaker 1: my did you have faces tires? Will the tires come
Speaker 1: out a little bit outside the wheel wells? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: stuck out. That's what I was just saying.
Speaker 3: I want the tires to come out just a little
Speaker 3: bit like I don't want it to be like a
Speaker 3: like the competitor that starts with an R word A
Speaker 3: R A P.
Speaker 1: It's like a dinosaur. I don't want to be like that.
Speaker 1: It's too wide. Yeah, but I do want to have
Speaker 1: a little bit bit. Yeah, there's a There is too
Speaker 1: much you can do to a truck, for sure. I
Speaker 1: think the way you had your last truck very classy,
Speaker 1: very well put together. But I had enough on fun
Speaker 1: end to say, oh he put his nice little spin
Speaker 1: on it. I do when I get my Chevy. I
Speaker 1: think we should do this. We should get Cebe radios,
Speaker 1: BB radios CB radios are what like, uh like truckers radios,
Speaker 1: and we would stay on a frequency so we can
Speaker 1: talk to each other. Yeah. I love a big, big,
Speaker 1: wobbly fucking wire in the back of your truck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love that as long as it's got it
Speaker 1: on and off switch is such a couck dude. With
Speaker 1: that being said, now that the vibes are higher than ever,
Speaker 1: let's go to shout out no free shout out of
Speaker 1: the week Boss. Are you ready or do you need
Speaker 1: a second? My boy boss is ready. Let's hear what
Speaker 1: you got.
Speaker 6: My shout out this week is more of a hack.
Speaker 6: It's putting your phone under your pillow. So if you
Speaker 6: know you gotta wake up in the morning, you gotta
Speaker 6: set your alarm a little earlier than probably who you're with,
Speaker 6: your spouse, whatever, Your alarm won't wake them up, but
Speaker 6: it'll wake you up by being under your pillow. Or
Speaker 6: if you're listening to a podcast you don't want, you know,
Speaker 6: to disturb the other person, slide that thing under your pillow.
Speaker 6: You could listen without disturbing them.
Speaker 1: Solid. That's solid. I mean if you like ear cancer,
Speaker 1: that's something. Brother. The the the radiation beaming on your
Speaker 1: fucking ear the whole.
Speaker 8: Time, all issues that shil might start a fire. You're
Speaker 8: my phone gets hot on.
Speaker 3: We're gonna if we're getting into the if we're getting
Speaker 3: into the radiation game, like having just our phone in
Speaker 3: our pocket hurts with disastro.
Speaker 1: You know what I do too. I put my phone
Speaker 1: here on my sack when I'm driving direct direct radiation
Speaker 1: on this I got injured. Eck. All right, well, jackie boy.
Speaker 8: My shoutout if your shout out goes to a game
Speaker 8: that I think we all know and love, but it's
Speaker 8: an aspect of the game.
Speaker 1: But it's pool.
Speaker 8: And we're playing a little pool on Thursday night this
Speaker 8: past week, and it's that one moment. You could literally
Speaker 8: not have hit a shot all game, but if you
Speaker 8: hit the fucking eight ball in gratch.
Speaker 1: The record, it's literally you're the You're the king, You're
Speaker 1: the here.
Speaker 8: And there's like such a dopamine rush you get when
Speaker 8: one hitting in the eight ball. But I think it's
Speaker 8: even better when you've been doing well in a pool
Speaker 8: game and you have a struggling partner and they're up
Speaker 8: on that last eight ball shot and it might be
Speaker 8: a little difficult, and you're like, all right, let's just
Speaker 8: go ahead.
Speaker 1: You're gonna miss.
Speaker 8: Hopefully I'm gonna pick it up on my next shot,
Speaker 8: and by the grace of God, this man sinks the
Speaker 8: eight ball. It's almost better watching your boy hit one
Speaker 8: in when he hasn't hit one in all day, somebody
Speaker 8: shout out, no free Shadow goes is sinking that a
Speaker 8: ball shot.
Speaker 1: It's truly a rush, not a big billiards guy. But
Speaker 1: I can see I can see the love there. I
Speaker 1: can definitely see the love Mitchie, what you got home when.
Speaker 3: You shake their hands after like because there's something different
Speaker 3: about like a playing pool too, or some of them,
Speaker 3: some of just those games that aren't like you know,
Speaker 3: the main fucking games where you just shake hands after
Speaker 3: a game's over, when you.
Speaker 1: Win at pool and you go shake their hand and
Speaker 1: the kind of drop turn your eye, Who's next? Yeah, bro?
Speaker 5: And oh god, my shadow, no for you.
Speaker 2: Shadow. This week goes to it's a feeling that like,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna start this over. Go ahead, you go
Speaker 2: out on Saturday night, you have a good time with
Speaker 2: the boys and everything. Sunday, you know, we wake up hangover, hungover,
Speaker 2: just feeling like absolute dogshit. But my shoutow no fore
Speaker 2: shoutout goes to that next day when your body completely
Speaker 2: resets and you feel like a new human and the
Speaker 2: hangover is gone and you just completely like it just
Speaker 2: is a uphoric feeling of like you're back, I'm back.
Speaker 2: This is this is how I should feel. I don't
Speaker 2: know why I do it to myself every Saturday night,
Speaker 2: but I like it makes you not want to drink again.
Speaker 5: M so goes to that the day after the hangover,
Speaker 5: the day after the.
Speaker 1: Hangover, and it also gives you like a new found
Speaker 1: like motivation as well. You're like, hey, I felt like shit,
Speaker 1: I got to earn this Monday. I gotta make sure
Speaker 1: this Monday is gonna be the best Monday ever and
Speaker 1: kick this week off the right way. It's a solid
Speaker 1: shot out no for shout out. Really, my shout out
Speaker 1: no for shadow goes to.
Speaker 3: The power trip you get from being in group one
Speaker 3: or like a one through fifteen on a flight. I
Speaker 3: was a little bit later on my on my layover
Speaker 3: on my connecting flight in Houston, and uh so I
Speaker 3: walked up and group two and three was going, but
Speaker 3: I'm group one. So I got to walk down the
Speaker 3: group one line and you know, you kind of like
Speaker 3: look to the side like, hey, guys, I won at life.
Speaker 3: So then you show them that. The lady's like, hey,
Speaker 3: are you group one? And I'm like yeah, She's like
Speaker 3: come on up here, and then you kind of hit
Speaker 3: it and you know, you're just kind of like walking proudly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you just yeah, or like you.
Speaker 3: Know, everybody's lining up for the Southwest flight and then
Speaker 3: you get to be like, hey, what number are you?
Speaker 3: And then you know they'll just be like like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm nine, and you're like I'm seven. So I'm in
Speaker 3: front of you. He's just like I'm just gonna wiggle
Speaker 3: in here in your mind you think there could be
Speaker 3: a little something there because you just kind of got them.
Speaker 3: When we were coming back from Cobo. I had to
Speaker 3: do that because the Cobo report was like madness. They
Speaker 3: almost just do, hey, if you're a come on up,
Speaker 3: and we'll just start ringing it up. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I see like this older couple who like gets up
Speaker 3: there and I'm thinking like, yo, we're we're We're like
Speaker 3: we're up there in the a's right and I'm thinking, hey,
Speaker 3: what is your And I saw them from Afar they
Speaker 3: were like A fifty two and I'm thinking they shouldn't
Speaker 3: be going right now.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, sir, what what which one are you?
Speaker 3: And he's like, you know, A fifty two and I'm
Speaker 3: my brother, you're you're back there because he was cutting
Speaker 3: like everybody. Yeah, yeah, this wasn't just a personal thing,
Speaker 3: but it's like those people were kind of taking advantage
Speaker 3: of the system, trying to get up there just because
Speaker 3: they got to fucking take it right, do it right?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, do it right right? Yeah yeah yeah yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: that shit that happened to me one time in my
Speaker 1: Southwest flight. I was like a seven and I was
Speaker 1: counting one, two, three, four, five six perfect. Well, some
Speaker 1: cock comes down the line and standing in front of
Speaker 1: a one for a second, kind of like not in
Speaker 1: the line, kind of he's he's wavering back between the
Speaker 1: line and the line. All of a sudden, a one
Speaker 1: through fifteen year up. He jets in front of a one,
Speaker 1: puts it down. I have no idea what his number was,
Speaker 1: but I bet you he was a late a like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really pisses me off.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, like, I get real
Speaker 3: like internally mad when I see people like trying to
Speaker 3: take advantage like the system or something like that, especially
Speaker 3: in the flights in the flight game. Bro, when you're
Speaker 3: in the flight game, like you want it to go smooth,
Speaker 3: and if you're fucking it up, you're part of the
Speaker 3: reason we're not taking off on time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, that's a good one shot out.
Speaker 3: No for Shadow goes to the power trip you get
Speaker 3: from being Group one, Oh yeah, or A one through
Speaker 3: fifteen that Early Bird special on Southwest.
Speaker 1: Speaking of this week, the boys are flying out Thursday
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas Debt. I'm sure will be an A
Speaker 1: or a Group one, you know, yeah, there no question
Speaker 1: we'll say if you boys to seed maybe and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a great, a great week. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: a Dana. We're gonna be doing a whole bunch of shit.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing, just more fun stuff because of
Speaker 1: you guys that have allowed us.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 1: My shoutout. Know if for Shadow this week goes to
Speaker 1: pool games. Not pool games like pool pool games like
Speaker 1: pool basketball, like sharks and meadows. Like when you're throwing
Speaker 1: rocks in the pool and you hold your breath and
Speaker 1: try to get all three of them. I've been filling
Speaker 1: up before you fill over air. The anticipation of the competition,
Speaker 1: when the weather's great and the sun's out and you
Speaker 1: are in the pool with the boys, when you're playing
Speaker 1: Marco polo dude, when you're playing Marco, Polo, and you're
Speaker 1: in the deep end of the pool and that guy
Speaker 1: is coming towards you. Marco, and you yell, Polo, take
Speaker 1: the biggest deep breadth of your life and hit the
Speaker 1: bottom and scared. Bro, You're like, I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out like this, like just holding yourself up as
Speaker 1: much as far as far down as possible while the
Speaker 1: feet are right here, and you're like, please God, that anxiety,
Speaker 1: all of that, and then he floats away from you, brother,
Speaker 1: the wind. That's a fucking win. How can I get up? Hup?
Speaker 1: Huh gotta watch out now take it. That is a feeling.
Speaker 1: And the summer's coming, boys, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1: Bloss while the winner sucks. We didn't get enough winner, dude.
Speaker 1: Fuck that shit. Fuck the cold. I cannot wait for
Speaker 1: sunshine pool days, grilling with the boys. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: an amazing time. And it's right around the corner. I
Speaker 1: can't fucking waits shot never shotow be your Olympics. Yeah
Speaker 1: go down this year. Oh yeah, I'll go down this year. Figure.
Speaker 3: So we definitely got to figure something out. That was
Speaker 3: a good That was a good fucking time.
Speaker 1: You know, we should have stayed to the masses. Should
Speaker 1: we do another Tennessee Titans beer Beer Olympics or go
Speaker 1: to a different team and get their offensive line? David
Speaker 1: bo You.
Speaker 3: Should have like a like an invite, like an invite
Speaker 3: only Beer Olympics.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, bring the boys from around bring the boys
Speaker 1: from around the country. Whiskey. You see a paper floating there,
Speaker 1: you've won? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like do a invite boys from around the country
Speaker 3: just to come into Nashville for a day. Yeah, brother,
Speaker 3: that'd be all Like we're doing the Beer Olympics and
Speaker 3: you got the invite.
Speaker 1: That would be sick. Hey, we're no longer teaming the masses.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Invite only, Invite only Beer Olympics. Should we talk about
Speaker 3: the South Carolina tickets going on sale? They should be
Speaker 3: on sale by the time you hear this, brother, Let
Speaker 3: them know. So the spring tourist starting March fifteenth. We
Speaker 3: kick it off at South Carolina the game Cocks Gamecock Country.
Speaker 3: We will be there next Wednesday, March fifteenth, being at
Speaker 3: the facility. But with more importantly, we're gonna be doing
Speaker 3: a live show that evening. We believe it'll be an
Speaker 3: eight o'clock show hour long. There'll be uh, you know,
Speaker 3: if you buy VIP or whatever, we're gonna do like
Speaker 3: this meet and greet beforehand, but all of that will
Speaker 3: be in a link. We're probably gonna drop the link.
Speaker 3: You'll see it on the socials, you see it on
Speaker 3: busing WTB. Those tickets are on sale now, so you
Speaker 3: gotta go swoop them up. I don't know how many
Speaker 3: there are in South Carolina. I don't know what that
Speaker 3: place holds. I think it's like two hundred, yeah, two hundred.
Speaker 3: But the Boys will be in South Carolina next week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in all the other spots that are out there listening,
Speaker 3: like when they think they're gonna get their tickets, I'm
Speaker 3: sure all of them will be out by next week.
Speaker 3: But I know first and foremost South Carolina, since that's one,
Speaker 3: since that one is coming up on us next Wednesday.
Speaker 3: South Carolina fans, if you're there in Win's the Charles
Speaker 3: or Columbia. I was gonna say Charleston, it's like the
Speaker 3: only city I know in South Carolina. But if you're
Speaker 3: in Columbia, if you're in Columbia or you want to
Speaker 3: travel to Columbia, the Boys will be there next Wednesday,
Speaker 3: March fifteenth, eight pm at ten roof. So yeah, get
Speaker 3: your tickets. It's gonna be fucking aweso. Dude, we're gonna
Speaker 3: have energy. We'll put the Lincoln in the description. It'll
Speaker 3: be a part of the show as well. We'll do
Speaker 3: some questions you guys will definitely have.
Speaker 1: We'll get able to have your shout out questions. But basically,
Speaker 1: if you're wondering, hey, what are the boys gonna do
Speaker 1: for the live show, you're you're watching us do the
Speaker 1: live show right now, just come be with us in person.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a meet and greet before. Yeah, hang out,
Speaker 1: shake hands, sign whatever, kiss babies, whatever you guys want
Speaker 1: us to do.
Speaker 3: Dude, we're gonna be happy with everybody's gonna be involved
Speaker 3: in this live show.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good time. It's another thing to
Speaker 1: think about too. That's right around the corner. Let's make
Speaker 1: sure we're doing a good job planning as Saint Patty's
Speaker 1: Day boys and girls, the merch gone, It's gone. That's
Speaker 1: how fast it's selling. Yeah, you've already gone behind the bus.
Speaker 1: Sat Patty's Day Merch. You're gonna go to barstool dot
Speaker 1: store Forward Slash Wait barstool dot com.
Speaker 3: Here you go store dot barstoolsports dot com. Forward Slash
Speaker 3: Busting fuck it, Go to store dot barstool sports dot com.
Speaker 3: Click the brands tab hit Busting with the Boys. That's
Speaker 3: where you go find our boom and.
Speaker 1: Then if that's if that's too hard, hey, I need
Speaker 1: the boys to put a fucking link right here so
Speaker 1: you can just click that. You'll get to it. You
Speaker 1: can come back to the podcast. Make sure you order
Speaker 1: that stuff, because if you don't order now, we don't
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna really make it to you by
Speaker 1: Saint Patty's Day weekend.
Speaker 3: So no, hey, Garrett, isn't it a yeah, it'll get
Speaker 3: there fast, and order there fast, order it.
Speaker 1: That's all right, Garrett, We got it. We'll get there, yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: to another episode of Busting with the Boys. Our guests today,
Speaker 1: a legendary probably the best linebacker in the entire NFL.
Speaker 1: Mister Fred One. Let's get around the box for the boys.
Speaker 1: Let's get it. Let's get a couple classes. I appreciated,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. Will Compton can't make it.
Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed that he can't make it. Linebackers on.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you growing up looked at him as a
Speaker 1: valued asset. You watched that was your Will is him?
Speaker 4: So I'm actually sad he's not here. Will, if you're
Speaker 4: watching this.
Speaker 1: Or if you do watch this, he does. We watch
Speaker 1: our own episodes because we need to boost our own numbers.
Speaker 1: That's like the biggest thing for us is are you
Speaker 1: aware that your ten was stolen from him? That know
Speaker 1: that Will's year ten was stolen from him?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know that. Yep. The Roger Goodell and
Speaker 1: the NFL boys were trying to keep him down. Really,
Speaker 1: he just had a gambling show and bet the bus.
Speaker 1: So there's really him betting on NFL games, and the
Speaker 1: NFL is like, no, you can't do that, you can't
Speaker 1: do that. They tried to take it. They absolutely try
Speaker 1: to take it. When I first walked in here, this
Speaker 1: is your Asian right here to my left. So he
Speaker 1: brought up something to me and it opened, it opened
Speaker 1: some old wounds. He is married to a girl that
Speaker 1: I had a crush on in elementary school. Can I
Speaker 1: say her name name? Her name is Julie Giordano, right,
Speaker 1: Julie Ferrari. Now, now what a cool fucking last name.
Speaker 1: What a cool last name. So I'll tell the same
Speaker 1: story I already told elementary school. We're like three months
Speaker 1: into the school year and they're like, hey, everyone, you
Speaker 1: can change sheets, you want to sit by somebody else,
Speaker 1: We want to keep it all going. I take this
Speaker 1: as my opportunity. I'm finally gonna sit next to Julie.
Speaker 1: I go over. She's facing the opposite direction and I
Speaker 1: slide on into the chair and she looks sees me
Speaker 1: and screams, immediately get up. I'm like, that's that's not
Speaker 1: for me. That obviously is as a tale. And then
Speaker 1: I brought up somebody else, Courtney Billie, and you're like,
Speaker 1: they're best friends. So buddy, it's been a it's been
Speaker 1: a hard day for me. Dude.
Speaker 4: I still don't even I don't understand how your re
Speaker 4: member things like that far back, oh grade, there will
Speaker 4: be a blur. All of elementary school is a blur
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: I don't really. Yeah, you don't have any good friends
Speaker 1: from elementary school?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know I have great friends, you know who
Speaker 4: you know, I grew up with all the way middle school,
Speaker 4: high school, but like elementary, like just like those little
Speaker 4: moments that you just that you just threw out there
Speaker 4: right now, like I could never pull that from the
Speaker 4: memory banks. I don't know, really, I don't think so. Yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe that's the football I don't worrisome for you. You
Speaker 4: think about that, it's a little bit worrisome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I'll go up to people sometimes and I'll
Speaker 1: literally like look at them and be like, hey, Taylor,
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, Like, yeah, we've met three times,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, it's terrible. I guess
Speaker 1: my long term memories is good, but my short term
Speaker 1: memories just terrible. Yeah. I don't know, but I'm obviously
Speaker 1: going through it right now. You have to be going
Speaker 1: through some sort of an emotional turmoil right now being
Speaker 1: in Arizona in a game that you probably believe you
Speaker 1: should be playing it. Yeah, no, it was. It was.
Speaker 4: It was hurtful yesterday being by the stadium and actually
Speaker 4: seeing it all dressed up because like for the longest time,
Speaker 4: I wrote sticky notes all over my house like saying
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a Super Bowl fifty seven champion
Speaker 4: February twelve, Like I wrote it out and I said, yeah,
Speaker 4: so uh yeah, No, it sucks being here seeing it all.
Speaker 1: God, dude, that's gotta be. And so when you get
Speaker 1: to call, like, hey, you're gonna go down the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Have you been to like the super Bowl location before
Speaker 1: when you're not playing in it?
Speaker 2: You did?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Did you play it against Kents Cidy? Uh? You talking
Speaker 1: about that was like what five four years ago?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in there? Okay, yeah, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1: See the memory. Oh it sucks. Yeah, it's terrible. You
Speaker 1: actually come down for the Super Bowl? Yeah I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went there.
Speaker 4: I was there last year in like same same situation.
Speaker 4: We had just lost the Rams in that same stadium.
Speaker 1: Like the week. So you guys have a hell at
Speaker 1: absolute hell of a team. Dude, when you look at
Speaker 1: the game, the NSC Championship, obviously the big glaring what
Speaker 1: if is your quarterback?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Party? You had two quarterbacks before him? Like what
Speaker 1: is what was your thought us? We're gonna jump all
Speaker 1: over the season, but what was your thought process when
Speaker 1: you see pretty get hurt? I was like, oh boy, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get it up.
Speaker 4: But the thing was, bro Like, here's the crazy part
Speaker 4: about it is when Party went down, I still have
Speaker 4: full confidence. Really, Yes, Josh Johnson a seasoned veteran, been
Speaker 4: in the league for about fifty years, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: you can go out there and protect me, you know,
Speaker 4: protect a ball, get it where it needs to go.
Speaker 4: And we got the top defense in the league at
Speaker 4: that point, I think it was seven zer. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, we're good. And then Christian goes and does
Speaker 4: like the Superman, you know, like goes and scores off
Speaker 4: of like some hero play. Yeah, and at seven seven, yes, stud,
Speaker 4: And like so I'm thinking, okay, we're in it. Like
Speaker 4: seven seven, we're good. Josh gets concussion, he's out. Did
Speaker 4: you think it was a real concussion.
Speaker 5: Did he fake it?
Speaker 1: Do you think that was like something that he the
Speaker 1: moment was too big for him? No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no he did. He did
Speaker 4: fake I I don't think he faked it. Yeah, But
Speaker 4: he goes down and we're on the sideline. I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, who's next? Like we don't have anybody else?
Speaker 4: And I heard I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I heard the story recently that Christian was getting his
Speaker 4: helmet fitted for the QB thing, and I didn't know
Speaker 4: that was actually happening in real time. But then I
Speaker 4: see Party trotting back out. I'm like, well, what the heck?
Speaker 4: Why wasn't he in the whole time? Because you thought
Speaker 4: he was faking it? So then I'm thinking he's faking right,
Speaker 4: you know, at that moment, You're like, yo, what's doing
Speaker 4: He's already I'm like, why the hell hasn't pretty been
Speaker 4: in this whole time?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But then he trots back out there and you see that.
Speaker 4: You see the guy just giving handoffs every play like
Speaker 4: we're toast. This is like what the first couple of
Speaker 4: plays into the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I was little. I was flying back from
Speaker 1: parks to the Utah with my family, so I didn't
Speaker 1: get to watch the game. But when Will breaks it
Speaker 1: down to me and we had Christian on yesterday, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just seems like the way it was framed to
Speaker 1: me is it seemed like the boys were kind of
Speaker 1: giving up, not the players themselves, but the play calling
Speaker 1: in general, because you would you would think, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put the green dot in Christian's helmet. Okay,
Speaker 1: let it, let him just rip it, just say fuck it.
Speaker 1: Dude was saying that thing and hope for the best.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a tough situation.
Speaker 4: Bro, I don't know, Like I mean, the game is
Speaker 4: literally over when you're down what it was two scores
Speaker 4: at that point, and you're gonna say, all right, let's
Speaker 4: put the quarterback in whose arms torn off, and just
Speaker 4: have him hand the ball off and hope that we
Speaker 4: can run the ball down the field, like when they're
Speaker 4: running punk coverage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, saying all right, we're gonna blitz every places, everybody
Speaker 1: that last can gauge eight exactly see what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like we were playing Madden, so what we
Speaker 1: were losing. Yeah, that's tough, dude, Like when you're looking
Speaker 1: and you see them handing it off like every single play,
Speaker 1: and then you're looking at going, hey, we're toast. How
Speaker 1: is like the mindset on because you guys are number one,
Speaker 1: if not like top two, most well put together NFL teams.
Speaker 1: It was you were in the other team that was
Speaker 1: in that conversation as the team you're playing, right, and
Speaker 1: you guys said, it seems like he has a phenomenal chemistry.
Speaker 1: Kittles a stud. Christian's the stud. You guys rally around
Speaker 1: every single quarterback. You have the best left tackle in
Speaker 1: the game. Nick Bosa just won Defensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year last night, right right, Yeah, stud just literally just
Speaker 1: seems like he's one step below in the evolutionary chart.
Speaker 1: Right his hands go down to his damn ankles. He
Speaker 1: just kind of grunts and mose. He just says a
Speaker 1: couple of things like, you guys have a solid squad
Speaker 1: in there, So how are the boys reacting during this thing?
Speaker 1: What did you feel the white flag coming up? Yeah? God,
Speaker 1: and that's tough. That's probably worth to admit. Field, It's
Speaker 1: the worst feeling in the world.
Speaker 4: Like when you know that, like in the moment as
Speaker 4: a competitor, you know this like you're you're sitting there,
Speaker 4: You're like you saw the clips of George like rally
Speaker 4: and the boys like trying to get them going, and
Speaker 4: I'm doing the same thing on my side. I'm thinking
Speaker 4: we can we can still win this, like we still
Speaker 4: win this. And then you finally like kind of concede
Speaker 4: defeat at the end, like obviously whinning the game's over.
Speaker 4: But all the way through I still had hope, you
Speaker 4: know that maybe we were going to get a pick
Speaker 4: six or scoop and score fumble, try and get the
Speaker 4: game back going.
Speaker 1: But but they're not gonna. I mean, once they see
Speaker 1: they're up to scores and you guys have no aerial attack,
Speaker 1: Like what is the point. They're probably on this on
Speaker 1: their sideline saying, hey, no dumb place. You're basically running
Speaker 1: a four minute offense.
Speaker 4: They're like, all right, what is this for ourselves? We
Speaker 4: just got to not give them the ball? And the
Speaker 4: turnal battle was huge for us all season long, like
Speaker 4: winning like we I think we're plus plus ten and
Speaker 4: maybe maybe over plus ten during the season and that
Speaker 4: was the reason why we went one twelve straight, right,
Speaker 4: and then you know, playoff, same thing as long as
Speaker 4: long as we took the ball wave, we protected we're
Speaker 4: gonna win. Like the stat was we were undefeated and
Speaker 4: we were plus yeah in that game, I think we
Speaker 4: were minus two minus three.
Speaker 1: God, I was like, all right, word But and you
Speaker 1: had to pick the week before against the Cowboys. What
Speaker 1: was the what was the mindset going to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: versus going against the Eagles Because you look at the Cowboys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got a lot every year, there's a big media
Speaker 1: on them there with the biggest media market in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL. But you knew, yeah, you were very aware
Speaker 1: of what was about to go down. Yeah, No, we
Speaker 1: were pretty confident.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm I'm not going to sit here
Speaker 4: and just boast and be like, oh, you know we're
Speaker 4: going to kill them, Like yeah, it was like we
Speaker 4: knew that.
Speaker 1: There was like they got they got players now, running backs,
Speaker 1: they have great wide receiving corps.
Speaker 4: Them losing Tony Pollard and like the first quarter was huge,
Speaker 4: Like that's their most dynamic player on that side of
Speaker 4: the ball and opens up their entire offense, their entire offense,
Speaker 4: So like losing him made them a little bit not
Speaker 4: as you know, dynamic on that side. I said, say,
Speaker 4: they obviously were just in CD the whole time, like
Speaker 4: wanted to get him going. I think he ended up
Speaker 4: having like eleven catches for one hundred some yards. So
Speaker 4: my word, you know it, it was what it was.
Speaker 4: The difference between this that game and the Eagles game
Speaker 4: was like I think the biggest difference was being at
Speaker 4: home way like in a hostile environment.
Speaker 1: You know how we had our quarterback. Obviously it could
Speaker 1: have been a different ball game with the Eagles. But
Speaker 1: you know it isn't it a wild when you're playing
Speaker 1: a football game and the whole week, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys are in your defensive meeting room saying, like Pollard,
Speaker 1: you guys got to like neutralize this individual. And then
Speaker 1: obviously you go seet and stuff like that. But like
Speaker 1: there's always like a key focus on certain individuals you
Speaker 1: play against. And then you get into a game and
Speaker 1: I've been there too, Like I'm playing against a stud
Speaker 1: defensive end and all of a sudden, maybe he gets
Speaker 1: growing or something earlier in the game. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: and you never want like you never hope, but obviously
Speaker 1: there is a piece of you that's like they just
Speaker 1: got a little bit easier for me, it made it
Speaker 1: for sure got easier when he got out here.
Speaker 4: Dude, you never want to see it happen like me, No,
Speaker 4: And that's it was like bro some ankle like nasty
Speaker 4: looking and some I saw something come out about how
Speaker 4: they're gonna try and change the way people tackle or
Speaker 4: something now like the drop tackle.
Speaker 1: I guess is what it's called. It's a drop tackle.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never even heard of that in
Speaker 1: my entire life.
Speaker 4: They said, because Jimmy Ward, the guy who was tackling him,
Speaker 4: slid down his legs and then like the pressure of
Speaker 4: his body.
Speaker 1: That's what happened to Uh Donnie Walker against Miami in
Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen, did he did something happen to his leg? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he snapped. I think it's a tip fib.
Speaker 4: It didn't come out of the skin, but that thing
Speaker 4: was looking like with this, yeah with with Pollard, like
Speaker 4: but you can't control that, like you're you're it's a
Speaker 4: desperation tackle. It's not like I'm gonna wrap him slide
Speaker 4: down fall on his leg like No, it's like you're
Speaker 4: you're desperate to try to get this guy down, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that seems like something that's like such a frustrating
Speaker 1: thing for the defensive player because Nick Bost had something
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, right, he gets uh, he tackles
Speaker 1: the quarterback, they throw a penalty on him. It's like
Speaker 1: the whole quarterback thing waiting crazy. Yeah, there is a
Speaker 1: it's outstanding that the NFL wants to help players. Now,
Speaker 1: they're also putting in a turfield a Nissan stadium next year,
Speaker 1: and everyone's all against turf field, but there's like there
Speaker 1: is they're at least showing to the public that hey,
Speaker 1: we want to keep these players healthy and safe. But
Speaker 1: there's got to draw a line where you literally have
Speaker 1: to understand what you're signing up for, Like Pallard needs
Speaker 1: to know, like when you get tackled the way he
Speaker 1: gets tackled, there's a there's an option that your leg
Speaker 1: is going to be facing the wrong way at the
Speaker 1: end of that. And buddy, when you see that during
Speaker 1: your game, like there is no more will to play
Speaker 1: anymore for at least four or five snaps like.
Speaker 4: That is the worst feeling in the world, especially seeing
Speaker 4: that live, Like that's like my fear, Like I would,
Speaker 4: you know, knock on wood that that never happens to me.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the whole like the breaking legs and all that.
Speaker 4: It's just like it's not right. But like you said,
Speaker 4: like you're signing you know what you're signing up for
Speaker 4: that happens, you know rarely, but that's what you're signing up.
Speaker 1: Where do you where do you see that line being
Speaker 1: like defined, because eventually the NFL can't turn this into
Speaker 1: two hands touch. It's it's a violent game flag football
Speaker 1: like the Pro Bowl, which we will get into that
Speaker 1: that was absolute garbage to absolute garbage, but that you'll
Speaker 1: have a whole experience talking about that. Yeah, sure, Like
Speaker 1: where is I guess where do you think the line
Speaker 1: is when it comes to like keeping guys healthy but
Speaker 1: also understanding the risk that we're all going into when
Speaker 1: we play this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, bro,
Speaker 4: people why do people turn on football, like intern on
Speaker 4: NFL football and watch It's because they want us, Like
Speaker 4: they want to see people hitting each other, like they
Speaker 4: want to see like the violence of the game, and
Speaker 4: you know, understanding the integrity of the game like and
Speaker 4: wanting to help protect the players.
Speaker 1: There is a fine line there, you know.
Speaker 4: They they're they're doing the whole protecting the quarterback situation
Speaker 4: because you see what happens clear and clear as day
Speaker 4: in our situation, what happens when you don't have your quarterback,
Speaker 4: you know, and how that affects the success of your team.
Speaker 4: So I mean, that's why they're getting paid all, you know,
Speaker 4: all the money and because your your team is I
Speaker 4: mean a large part of it is a success of
Speaker 4: your team is from the quarterback. So I get it
Speaker 4: from that standpoint. I wanted to protect the quarterbacks, but
Speaker 4: a lot of it is like kind of ticki tag
Speaker 4: and it's like all right, like come on, we got
Speaker 4: to know common sense now of.
Speaker 1: What yeah, what's the use did you tack?
Speaker 4: I mean this year there was like some weird ones
Speaker 4: where like they don't want you to sli and the
Speaker 4: quarterback down too hard, like when you're sacking him, landing
Speaker 4: on him, the landing on them thing, it's like you
Speaker 4: have to roll off with one arm down on the
Speaker 4: ground or brace yourself and then all kind of off
Speaker 4: to the side. Like it's just like so like fine,
Speaker 4: like this is you know, find details in it all.
Speaker 4: It's like and these these things are happening like quick
Speaker 4: and there's a quick decision that having to be made
Speaker 4: like in action.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: It is an interesting you'll do, especially like if I
Speaker 1: feel like if I'm a defensive player and I'm sacking
Speaker 1: a quarterback and I have to think about all the
Speaker 1: little minu details you're saying low key, you're putting yourself
Speaker 1: in risk to get injured. Absolutely, and that's like, but
Speaker 1: the NFL's got to follow what they do, which is
Speaker 1: protecting the money. They're gonna protect Tom Brady, They're gonna
Speaker 1: take Aaron Rodgers and all those guys. Yeah, and it's tough.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that's an issue with that
Speaker 1: is the those rules aren't consistent based on the quarterback. Right,
Speaker 1: you get those older guys that are you know, Hall
Speaker 1: of famers or elite quarterbacks, they get they're gonna get
Speaker 1: extra flags. They're going to get extra flags. And it's
Speaker 1: it's tough, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 1: Definitely.
Speaker 4: You also have to be aware, like as a defender, like,
Speaker 4: all right, you got to know who's going to get
Speaker 4: the calls, Who's who's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be a little bit more lenient.
Speaker 4: You gotta know what, uh what ref crew you're working with, Like,
Speaker 4: all right, is this is this a crew that's gonna
Speaker 4: let you play or is it a crew that is
Speaker 4: gonna you know, be a little bit more flat happy?
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know this all stuff that you get.
Speaker 4: The people don't outside don't realize that you have to
Speaker 4: like kind of be aware of.
Speaker 1: Do the coaches before games, do they let you guys
Speaker 1: know who the the referees are and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, these guys are big on DPI,
Speaker 1: these guys are big on holding. Every crew like has like.
Speaker 4: A penalty that they're big on, Like they're like heavily
Speaker 4: called this type of penalty. So it's not something that
Speaker 4: in game you're really thinking about. It's just something that
Speaker 4: you kind of put in your back pocket, like beforehand.
Speaker 4: It's like, all right, well I have it on my
Speaker 4: mind a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta. Yeah, it's understanding the rules and using
Speaker 1: the rules to your advantage. There you go, that's all
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Your DC just left, He went to Houston.
Speaker 1: Right on one hand, you got to be stoked for him.
Speaker 1: How do how do you think that affects you guys
Speaker 1: going into next year. It's kind of like it's it's
Speaker 1: almost like a new challenge. You know.
Speaker 4: It's like, well, my time being here, this will be
Speaker 4: my third DC in six years, so it's But the
Speaker 4: difference was that Tomiko was the descendant of Sala, you know,
Speaker 4: he was under Solah. Okay, it was almost the exact
Speaker 4: same defense, except the little tweaks here and there. Now
Speaker 4: we're bringing in a new cat who hasn't been a
Speaker 4: part of the like part of our system or even
Speaker 4: a part of the building, you know, so kind of
Speaker 4: bringing them in. And I haven't I haven't met coach
Speaker 4: Wilks yet, but I'm eager to. I've heard none but
Speaker 4: good things.
Speaker 1: Uh Shaq. Thompson hit me up and was like, may
Speaker 1: You're gonna love Wilkes.
Speaker 4: Bro Like really, hey, like the Mike eats in this
Speaker 4: defense and great, dude, man, everybody loved him.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited. Yeah, dude, because you guys have a
Speaker 1: punishing defense. I worry. Do you think when head coaches
Speaker 1: get de coordinates coordinates when they get head coaching jobs,
Speaker 1: do they do you think they evaluate where they're going
Speaker 1: or they just see the head coach and they're like
Speaker 1: the head coaching title. They're like, oh, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take that because if I'm yeah right, because if
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Houston right, they have had an absolute revolving
Speaker 1: door of head coaches. The franchises in shambles. That's not
Speaker 1: an opinion, that's literally a fact. Like ship just seems
Speaker 1: like it is hitting the fan over there, Like, do
Speaker 1: you think he thought about that before we took that
Speaker 1: job or is it like, hey, I get to be
Speaker 1: a head coach in the National colutely he thought about it.
Speaker 4: He thought about everything, and he's he's a you know,
Speaker 4: he's a guy who lives in Houston, you know, had
Speaker 4: a house out there already and played for that organization.
Speaker 4: I think his wife is from from Houston. So everything
Speaker 4: you have to take into account everything, and then obviously
Speaker 4: does is it the right fit? You know, is the
Speaker 4: front office, you know, in correlation with what your values
Speaker 4: and ideals are for what you believe the team is
Speaker 4: going forward? So everything obviously lined up. Who do you
Speaker 4: want to win this game on Sunday?
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't do that. Well, now, what
Speaker 1: kind of question. Yeah, I'm terrible at this job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you look at the teams. Let's not say who
Speaker 1: we want to win. Let's say, who do we think
Speaker 1: is going to win this game? And if you want
Speaker 1: me to go first, I will that way, he lets
Speaker 1: you have a little more of a cushion. Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: think the Philadelphiagles are gonna win this game by at
Speaker 1: least ten points. Yes, yes, the only way. And Will
Speaker 1: brought this point up. I'm now using his point form,
Speaker 1: but I put the insurance policy in there. The only reason,
Speaker 1: the only way Kansas City wins this game is on
Speaker 1: off scripted place. They're not going to be able, especially
Speaker 1: with who's number seventeen for the Chiefs, Nicole Hardman. Nicole Hardman,
Speaker 1: He's out. They just put him on iron. They got
Speaker 1: Juju's got a knee, they got another guy with a hip.
Speaker 1: They got an ankle. Pat Mahomes is the ankle. I
Speaker 1: think in their offensive line. I think the Eagles are
Speaker 1: going to eat. Okay, I think the Eagles are going
Speaker 1: to eat, and I think the Phillies. I think Phillies
Speaker 1: offensive line is going to eat. Okay, like it is
Speaker 1: going to be a bloodbath on one side, and then
Speaker 1: the Jalen's going to have a very long time to
Speaker 1: throw the football. Oh is Jalen at super MVP then
Speaker 1: is that Is that what you're saying or I don't know.
Speaker 1: But and Kelsey is gonna be Super Bowl MVP of
Speaker 1: this of this game. I don't know, dude, because I
Speaker 1: think obviously you're gonna give it to Jail and he's
Speaker 1: a quarterback. We've seen it in the past where it
Speaker 1: doesn't go to the quarterback. But I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: going to bet on that situation, you would bet the
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NBA. But I think top to bottom,
Speaker 1: the Eagles are a better football team. And here's where
Speaker 1: I'll speak against myself. I think Patrick Mahomes is getting
Speaker 1: to the point where you never bet against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: He's truly like the baby goat. He's out here ripping
Speaker 1: around two time MVP just won it last night, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a study. So all that being said, you have
Speaker 1: the floor. That's an interesting take. I hadn't heard.
Speaker 4: I hadn't heard that one yet, Like that very good
Speaker 4: at my job. And the Eagles are just gonna mop
Speaker 4: the floor with the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I did that. I guess in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Of course, it's kind of disrespectful to Kansas City.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's cool I mean, we don't, we
Speaker 4: don't care, but I would say I would say the opposite.
Speaker 1: I think Casey wins. Wow.
Speaker 4: My reasoning being both teams are obviously they're they're obviously
Speaker 4: the best of the best. That's why they're there. Eagles
Speaker 4: are loaded. I do like the I do like the
Speaker 4: thought of the trench is kind of winning the game
Speaker 4: for him, the old line being stacked, d line stacked.
Speaker 4: But in my mind, the super Bowl is very much
Speaker 4: so like a game of like experience. Who's been there.
Speaker 4: This is a staff with the Eagles that has never
Speaker 4: been in this game. Okay, see and any Reid been
Speaker 4: there has won it. Pat Mahomes been there, won it?
Speaker 1: Who do they win? I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but anyway, but yeah, they've been there and they've
Speaker 4: done it.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 4: Like I feel I feel like that's kind of like
Speaker 4: the difference maker and like in those key moments because
Speaker 4: there's like you know, it doesn't really it doesn't always
Speaker 4: come down to the last play. There's gonna be key
Speaker 4: moments in the game where it's like, all right, who's
Speaker 4: more season than this to be able to be like
Speaker 4: all right, like who's gonna make the more critical decisions?
Speaker 4: Throughout the game, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: players make place. Pat Mahomes is Pat Mahomes. Travis Kelsey
Speaker 4: is Travis Kelsey. Now I'm eager to see what the
Speaker 4: Eagles defensive game plan is against that offense.
Speaker 1: You know, like, are they going.
Speaker 4: To say, but you can beat a with anybody else
Speaker 4: except for eighty seven, Like eighty seven is not catching
Speaker 4: the ball, Like we're going to triple team, double team,
Speaker 4: whatever we need to do and make it make them
Speaker 4: beat us some other way.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do Like, so, what do you think
Speaker 1: their game play is going to be, because the easy
Speaker 1: answer is double double Kelsey, I'll do it. Play man
Speaker 1: on everybody. I'll do it, and I'll try to get
Speaker 1: try to.
Speaker 4: Get to the quarterback man double or zone and have
Speaker 4: somebody else in the area being able to bump him
Speaker 4: do something. If you just like Travis Kelcey run around
Speaker 4: and he's going to and he gets twelve catches for
Speaker 4: like one hundred and forty yards, two tugs, win subwemp,
Speaker 4: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like this is like what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Come on?
Speaker 1: Or the opposite when he has like what like six catches,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns and twenty five yards that one game. It's
Speaker 1: just crazy. Is the red zone three? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 1: Well, it's that that's a unique storyline too when it
Speaker 1: comes to the Super Bowl. Is Jason and Travis? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's got to be so dope. Yeah, your brother,
Speaker 1: you have a brother that plays that by you right now?
Speaker 4: Or we played together for two years and now he's
Speaker 4: he's doing USFL. He's doing USFL Memphis. Has he told
Speaker 4: you about that process?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, I mean he doesn't. He hasn't even gone yet.
Speaker 1: He leads in March. Oh no way, Yeah, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about playing there next year. Stop? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: I thought if I retired, dude, I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: and do USL USFL or do a cflry to be
Speaker 1: all Canadian and get the fuck out. There's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about doing that when like when
Speaker 1: you're when your career is like over, Like why not
Speaker 1: just why not?
Speaker 4: Just for the love of the game, for the love
Speaker 4: of the game, brother, just bro, Yeah, that would be
Speaker 4: just love ball so much.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna, you know, just gonna go do it
Speaker 1: just to see what happens. I feel like that's like
Speaker 1: the CFL especially is like a wildly underestimated like uh football, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 4: I Mean I don't really know much about it either,
Speaker 4: but I've heard I've heard good things for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The when you look at when you look at
Speaker 1: your team, you have a handful of guys that are
Speaker 1: going to be free agents this next year. How do
Speaker 1: you guys finally put it together and get back to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to the same exact thing we did.
Speaker 1: You have to resign those we make sure both both our.
Speaker 4: Quarterback get hurt, go get down to the third string quarterback,
Speaker 4: and then get a top defense, and then we'll be
Speaker 4: right back.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to be your quarterback
Speaker 1: next year? This is obviously a question in your agent
Speaker 1: does not want me to ask a ridiculous question. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, that's crazy, Yeah, because I feel like
Speaker 1: people have already forgotten about Tree Lance. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for Trey, I mean it's like, I mean, he
Speaker 4: just hasn't had like the best end of the stick
Speaker 4: right right, just kind of like every time he's been
Speaker 4: out there. I mean, you talk about this season, he
Speaker 4: went out through the first game in a monsoon, second game,
Speaker 4: gets hurt, breaks his ankle, and then what's the ankle?
Speaker 4: You know, I know, I don't know, Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it just hasn't had the best end of the stick.
Speaker 4: And but I mean, I'm excited for him obviously, get
Speaker 4: an off now, just in off season program, just to
Speaker 4: you know, get to take the reins and.
Speaker 1: And we'll see what happens because you got him. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you got the most handsome guy in the NFL, Jimmy
Speaker 1: g Yeah, and he's going to be a freezing right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think Kyle Ready came out and said that he's
Speaker 4: not coming back, but he said the same thing last
Speaker 4: year too, so yeah, see.
Speaker 1: It seems like you guys kind of need that. And
Speaker 1: then he got brock Party. And then I was listening
Speaker 1: to Oh No, I was talking with Christian McCaffrey and
Speaker 1: he was saying that you guys saw him on defense
Speaker 1: and knew like he was legit study because I have
Speaker 1: taken it, had this take of people telling me. People
Speaker 1: have told me Rock Perty is not that good. He
Speaker 1: just has aliens around him. That is what I was told.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't do that. I will tell you
Speaker 1: I will we'll discuss afterwards. But this person is in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and they understand the game. Have they played
Speaker 1: against the Brock? They have not put against Brock. It's
Speaker 1: not a player. Oh, it's not a player. It's not
Speaker 1: a player. This person pulled film up for me and
Speaker 1: showed me him missing throws and different things, and he's
Speaker 1: look on brock Party. I am just giving you the
Speaker 1: information I've reached. I'm a messenger. His take on brock
Speaker 1: Party is that he is a quarterback that can do
Speaker 1: a good job of like being a manager. But he's
Speaker 1: the reason why he seems so successful is because there's
Speaker 1: aliens around him. Now, I want your take on how
Speaker 1: you feel about like seeing him in practice every day.
Speaker 1: And then when McCaffrey was when I was asking him
Speaker 1: about when Jimmy went down, Okay, he said, you guys
Speaker 1: were like, Rock is legit. Yeah, So what why am
Speaker 1: I getting two different storylines here? Oh? I don't know, Like.
Speaker 4: I'm I just think I think Brock is dope. Like
Speaker 4: I've always been a fan of his from day one.
Speaker 4: Going against him in practice, you know, you get you
Speaker 4: get guys who are the scout team quarterback and they're
Speaker 4: just like they understand their role and just like all right,
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go out here kind of just whatever,
Speaker 4: do my thing, or just do whatever I need to do.
Speaker 1: Like Brock's mindset was I'm trying to ball. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I'm trying.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to make myself better by going against the
Speaker 4: top defense.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It wasn't just a matter of you know, I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna go out here and tell him to do whatever
Speaker 4: they need me to do. Read the card like he's
Speaker 4: legit trying to get better, like he's trying to dice
Speaker 4: this up. And he was like here and there, you know,
Speaker 4: like you saw the ability in terms of like there's
Speaker 4: weeks where he's playing as like a running quarterback and
Speaker 4: he could actually like he has some wheels, like he
Speaker 4: can he had like the shiftiness and like could do
Speaker 4: the little like the little half step.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like so we saw that in practice all the time.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, he's got some to him, you know,
Speaker 4: you know the factor right, Like he's got it. You
Speaker 4: can't really describe it, but it and he has it.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be an interesting I feel like for like
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, fran San Francisco has always had
Speaker 1: like a quarterback controversity going into that year.
Speaker 4: Every year I've been there, I mean it's like, well,
Speaker 4: not necessarily off season, but every year it's always been
Speaker 4: like devastating injury off season stuff Like it's just you know, it's.
Speaker 1: The things you can't control too, because guys have an
Speaker 1: outstanding off It's a line Michael Leitchi is gonna be
Speaker 1: a free agent. Then you have literally the best player
Speaker 1: in the NFL, Trent Williams. Yes, is that something you're
Speaker 1: willing to stand right there? He's the best player in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's up.
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Speaker 1: Back to the episode, Because I look at your guys
Speaker 1: a squad. If you were on any other team, I
Speaker 1: feel like you'd be the best player on their team. Debo,
Speaker 1: same thing, McCaffrey, same thing, Like, uh, bro it is.
Speaker 1: And then you literally look around like look at all
Speaker 1: these fucking nick Bosa. You look at all these studs,
Speaker 1: and you're like, who's your best player? I'll buy some
Speaker 1: offense line, but I'm like, no, Trent, I agree, he's him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: aside for myself, I'd say Trent is that in that
Speaker 1: locker room? Is everybody like, hey, Trend's him? Yes? Bro.
Speaker 4: It's so funny watching Trent throughout the week, like just
Speaker 4: he kind of just hobbles around.
Speaker 1: You know, he's like near what like twelve or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, obviously he takes Wednesdays off and then
Speaker 4: you know he's out there Thursday does his thing, and
Speaker 4: then when he gets in the game, it's like he
Speaker 4: just goes super saying mode. Super saying mode is like,
Speaker 4: just I've never seen anything like it really ever. The
Speaker 4: combination of like the ballerina feet with like just this
Speaker 4: humongous upper body and slamming guys. Whether it's before or
Speaker 4: after the whistle doesn't matter, you know, just thought like,
Speaker 4: he's just an insane freak athlete with the mindset, you know,
Speaker 4: like of I can do this all day long, and
Speaker 4: just I don't know, He's just a.
Speaker 1: Freak, you know. He just gets and he gets away.
Speaker 1: He's so good at understanding the game and where he
Speaker 1: has to be. I feel like his like his technique
Speaker 1: is not great. If you look at him in the States,
Speaker 1: so you can literally see you can you can see like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a run on this player, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a pass on this play, and literally people just
Speaker 1: still can't figure it out. Matter he goes, he does
Speaker 1: the reach round block on backside cutoffs, he knocks guys
Speaker 1: down and then all of a sudden, because he's not
Speaker 1: tread is the most talented offense line that I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: In my entire life. He is. He's not a dude
Speaker 1: that's like sprinting down field, but he picks and chooses
Speaker 1: his time to end dudes.
Speaker 4: Just like what was it the Cardinals back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty was when it was his first year with
Speaker 4: this an open and played in the air. So it's
Speaker 4: like he had that thing, like that chip on the
Speaker 4: shoulder of like I got a show, I could still
Speaker 4: like play at the top. Yeah, so he had to
Speaker 4: just go and end what was his name, Hicks? Yeah,
Speaker 4: first play, like first game of the.
Speaker 1: Year, first game of the year, like fifteen snaps in ye,
Speaker 1: and it was like a like a Waterboys scene. He's
Speaker 1: just grunting and absolutely murdered that human being. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I've seen him do it several times now
Speaker 4: and it's like luckily not in practice, but yeah, and
Speaker 4: I would never want to play against him.
Speaker 1: Like on the other team. It's his vibe at practice.
Speaker 1: He's chilling, he's chilling, chilling. He knows he's him absolutely,
Speaker 1: And that's like not even a shot because like there
Speaker 1: are dudes you play with in the NFL that you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll see him on Sunday he's going to be a study.
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta worry. I have not I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about him. Like he let him understand his
Speaker 1: process and he that.
Speaker 4: That is it, and everybody respects the heck out of him, bro,
Speaker 4: Like it doesn't matter, like he's he's a captain in
Speaker 4: every single year because guys truly do respect the way
Speaker 4: he goes about his business and like what comes out
Speaker 4: of his mouth.
Speaker 1: When he does choose to like say something to the team.
Speaker 1: I want you to do me a favor. I want
Speaker 1: you to rank the top five players in the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners, and yourself is included in this ranking. Okay,
Speaker 1: you take your time, we can cut out yees oh
Speaker 1: uh oh oh nice, Yeah, as long as it's not
Speaker 1: too long. Yeah, just text it, text it to me
Speaker 1: and then I'll we'll do that after.
Speaker 6: We do this.
Speaker 4: Okay, top five, Well, this is this is kind of
Speaker 4: I might hurt some feelings though, because there's like a
Speaker 4: lot of talented guys on our team.
Speaker 1: What we can do is we'll do a top five. Okay,
Speaker 1: obviously you have to put number one is number one,
Speaker 1: and then two through five can be what's that I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like two through five could be like any order. Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: you five could be your two. But we just know
Speaker 1: if gets the top five guys, and we'll give a
Speaker 1: couple of honorable mentions. Is you guys are legit stacked good?
Speaker 4: Well, then I'll put myself at one, as he took
Speaker 4: that personally, I said was the best play the team. Humbly,
Speaker 4: I'll put myself at one, and then two through five.
Speaker 4: I mean, you for sure gotta go Trent Bosa, George
Speaker 4: God see, I can't do I don't know. I can't
Speaker 4: do like four guys because right then you.
Speaker 1: Have honorable mentions. I know they're legit both the same player. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had a running back that can play receiver and
Speaker 1: a receiver and they can play running back.
Speaker 4: But in there too liked, well, he'd be god.
Speaker 1: Tier we do. We do a thing on the show
Speaker 1: called tears. Actually, we'll just do tears talk right now.
Speaker 1: That way we don't have to do it. Okay, who
Speaker 1: are you aware of your talk? That's okay? All right?
Speaker 1: So Tier Talk is basically what we're doing right now,
Speaker 1: except for it's gonna become a little harder. It'll be
Speaker 1: our top three. Now, for the sake of the argument,
Speaker 1: I will say you are the best player on the
Speaker 1: San FRANSCOO forty nine Ers, which right now is putting you.
Speaker 1: Because there's an agreement, you are now god tier. We've
Speaker 1: opened up the one slot, the two slot, and the
Speaker 1: three slot, and we'll both let ourselves have two honorable mentions. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you can go first. You can give your honorable
Speaker 1: mentions for the Niners. For the Niners, I will go second.
Speaker 4: So it's the same. Okay, So I'm going one through
Speaker 4: five again.
Speaker 1: You're going one through five, but you're gonna start at
Speaker 1: five now. But there's more skin in the game now
Speaker 1: because you are putting them in order. Now, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Isn't that tough?
Speaker 4: That's really tough. We can put the sure put Trent
Speaker 4: Bosa two and three.
Speaker 1: I mean you could. You could sit there, you could
Speaker 1: flip flop either of them. No way.
Speaker 4: Since we talking about trend as the best player in
Speaker 4: the league, then we'll put them at two. Bosa's one
Speaker 4: deep player of the year. Sorry, buddy, You're three is
Speaker 4: what it is? Four and five I would, I would
Speaker 4: four and five is tough because you got three I
Speaker 4: got three guys in mind, obviously, Deebo, Christian and George.
Speaker 1: One of those has to sit in a honorable mention.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put Christian Deebo four and five, and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put George honorable mentioned.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yeah, because you know George is gonna be
Speaker 1: the coolest with that exactly. George my boy, So you
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be all good. He I asked him
Speaker 1: to come on and did a co host got ghosted.
Speaker 1: That's okay, that is that's the game. He actually tried
Speaker 1: to call me, I think as we were talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: really yeah, we uh did. George is the best, all right,
Speaker 1: He's great. So he put you at God's here. You
Speaker 1: are at God's Here. So my number one it's gonna
Speaker 1: go to Trent Williams. My number two will be George Kittle, Okay.
Speaker 1: My number three is going to be Deebo m for Christian.
Speaker 1: I've nick anybody, yeah and then now and so now
Speaker 1: this is an offense. Guy thought I have a built
Speaker 1: an insurance policy on that. Okay. Is Nick Bosa as
Speaker 1: quiet and calm and collected as it is, because there's
Speaker 1: a video I think it's you hyping the boys upn't
Speaker 1: agree more and agree more, agree more, actually like that
Speaker 1: all the time. Dude.
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize he said that in the moment
Speaker 4: because I'm obviously like he said to himself, he just
Speaker 4: kind of said he kind of turned around and said,
Speaker 4: agree more, agree more. And when I saw the clip,
Speaker 4: I don't know, how may it kind of you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't like it, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Like this is how you're doing me?
Speaker 4: No, No, it was funny. It was hilarious. That whole
Speaker 4: entire mic. That was comedy. But that's him to a tea. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's did He's funny. His brother seems the same way.
Speaker 4: His brother took a fat ol before you guys lost
Speaker 4: the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: You saw that. How are you? How are the what
Speaker 1: are the Eagles fan? They've got to be the most
Speaker 1: rabid fan base. Absolutely, not even close. It's not even close.
Speaker 1: They're scary human beings. Yeah, they're they're literally like last
Speaker 1: of us. They're flipping the bird.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter if you're if you're a two year old,
Speaker 4: or if you're fifty or sixty, like they're they're all
Speaker 4: flipping the bird.
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a fan of an opposite team
Speaker 1: and the Eagles and they're playing the Eagles and you
Speaker 1: bring your two year old with you. You're a bad parent. Yes,
Speaker 1: you need to find a babysitter that day to war,
Speaker 1: Yes you are. Yeah. Tactically, how do you think what
Speaker 1: do you think Joey went wrong in that situation? Was
Speaker 1: it calling the butt buddy snapchat or was it or
Speaker 1: was it that age old I'm rich comment? That do
Speaker 1: you think tactically he probably didn't handle himself the best way?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like, I mean that's I think that's
Speaker 4: just Joey though, like you know, bless his heart, just
Speaker 4: out there, just the ultimate every fighting every single Philly fan,
Speaker 4: like they're all gonna coming at him and he's just
Speaker 4: taking him on.
Speaker 1: Because if I'm if I'm Joey, I did like the
Speaker 1: butt buddy comment. I thought that was funny. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: the rich part, that's you're gonna lose that battle ten
Speaker 1: times out of ten every time. So that's when you
Speaker 1: just got to let him half his moment, dapt him
Speaker 1: up and make him become a friend, right right, and
Speaker 1: might lose, yes, and then they lose because the Eagles, bro,
Speaker 1: they really they're crazy. I know, and they're about to
Speaker 1: be Super Bowl champions by ten points right now? Did
Speaker 1: you already put that bet down? Or I don't bet.
Speaker 1: I am not associated with but the bus at all
Speaker 1: because I'm technically still an active NFL player. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, all right. Maybe it's kind of like
Speaker 1: against the rules for even talking about it. Maybe, but
Speaker 1: actually it won't matter. Yeah, neither of us bet. Will does.
Speaker 1: He flaunts that thing around, though he does bet a lot. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, the Will questions, let me read
Speaker 1: this first. I'm not good at reading. Hold on, all right,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not good at reading. No chilling. I
Speaker 1: got in yesterday morning. It's Scottsdale got Airbnb. I mean
Speaker 1: all all the the hotels were booked up. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: this is Will just blowing him and then asking a question,
Speaker 1: Oh what are the things?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, are you ready? Yeah. As a linebacker, there
Speaker 1: are guys who run and hit, guys who can cover,
Speaker 1: and are predominantly third down passing down players. You can
Speaker 1: essentially do it all. You have speed, you meet people
Speaker 1: with bad intentions. You can run run the middle of
Speaker 1: the field from the a gap that's by the way,
Speaker 1: that was very cool when you did that. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: rare to find a complete linebacker. What are things you've
Speaker 1: done as a player outside of genetic ability that's allows
Speaker 1: you to grow and play at such a high level.
Speaker 1: Question One that was from will whoat of all, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of your heroes. That's got to be a huge
Speaker 1: to hear from.
Speaker 4: That was huge, right there. Yeah, that was very nice,
Speaker 4: very nice of them, and thank you. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: and I bro when I came in, like I was
Speaker 4: nowhere even close to I got the player I am now. Like,
Speaker 4: first of all, I was, I played out of position
Speaker 4: in college. I wouldn't say out of position honestly helped
Speaker 4: me now being in the league now playing Mike backer,
Speaker 4: I played like almost nickel like out in space a lot.
Speaker 4: So when I got to the league, having that background
Speaker 4: allowed me to feel more comfortable in space. So they're like,
Speaker 4: all right, we're gonna plug in at Mike and kind
Speaker 4: of see how you do. We're not really sure where
Speaker 4: to put you. And Demiko being a Mike backer, like
Speaker 4: he was the perfect like coach for me to come under. Okay,
Speaker 4: well that kind of sounded weird, but the perfect coach
Speaker 4: for me to learn from because like he like from
Speaker 4: day one, I remember where you know, in Otash, you know,
Speaker 4: rookies have extra like walk through time in between practices
Speaker 4: or something, and we're I'm like, he's we're going through
Speaker 4: plays and I'm in the huddle with some of the
Speaker 4: other rookies and I'm like, all right, Compton, real break,
Speaker 4: yeah whispering right, I don't. I mean, I've never given
Speaker 4: calls before. And Demico grass me briefly aside, Hey, you
Speaker 4: the Mike Becker, like you need to make sure that
Speaker 4: you run you run the show, you run the show,
Speaker 4: speak up and let these boys know.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa, all right, yea. From then on
Speaker 1: our brow.
Speaker 4: He never had to tell me anything ever again, Like
Speaker 4: in terms of like running the show, I'm out there
Speaker 4: and practice, I'm screaming the calls at the top of
Speaker 4: my lungs, screaming them.
Speaker 1: Was it that big of a flip? Right away? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Right away? Click? Just like that.
Speaker 4: Like for some reason, I don't know, I was blessed
Speaker 4: with being able to like retain information and coaching and
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff like it, I get things
Speaker 4: fairly quickly, so like I was screaming them calls like
Speaker 4: and Kyle I think went in to the media and
Speaker 4: was like laughing about it, like yeah, this Warner kid,
Speaker 4: like he's screaming the calls out there. I mean you
Speaker 4: gotta tell him, like so the offense can't hear like
Speaker 4: the calls. He needs to like you know, ton them
Speaker 4: down maybe a little bit. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 4: just literally I dove in after like I got in
Speaker 4: the league and I realized, like from the outside looking in,
Speaker 4: when you're not in the league's it looks like everybody's
Speaker 4: like like like it's like, Wow, you put these guys
Speaker 4: on a pedestal your whole life all grown. Man, you
Speaker 4: see the best of the best, the Bobby Wagners, everybody,
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, like all these players that you look up
Speaker 4: up to, and then you finally in it and you're like, okay,
Speaker 4: like they're still good, but it's not like they're like
Speaker 4: you're right there with them now. So like I literally
Speaker 4: just dove in and I worked like no other and
Speaker 4: I dedicated my whole life to just ball. Like I
Speaker 4: got a office now where it's just dedicated to film,
Speaker 4: Like I'm just sitting there pounding film throughout the week
Speaker 4: and it's just purely for film, like my diet, the
Speaker 4: things I watch, like the podcast I listened to, the
Speaker 4: YouTube videos I watched, like Busting with the Boys, you know,
Speaker 4: just kind of taking notes and like everything I do
Speaker 4: is dedicated to ball bro Like it's nothing nothing else
Speaker 4: besides obviously making my wife happy. But I'm just like
Speaker 4: completely obsessed with it, Like this is all. This is
Speaker 4: my whole life, so since ever since I dedicated everything
Speaker 4: to it, it's all, you know, allow me to to floorish.
Speaker 1: Ausk Will's next question, But you said something about at
Speaker 1: the end of that little thing, like along with making
Speaker 1: my wife happy, how hard is it to find that
Speaker 1: balance between your personal life and your professional life, because
Speaker 1: especially during the season, it's all consuming, right, and you
Speaker 1: can feel them. I'm married, I have two kids. You
Speaker 1: can feel them being like what about us? Sometimes and
Speaker 1: it's it's very difficult because it brings a level of
Speaker 1: guilt and you know their feelings are valid. So how
Speaker 1: do you work through that process during the season, Because
Speaker 1: I when I'm in a locker room and I see
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys and they all seem fine. In
Speaker 1: the back of my head, I'm like, man, I got
Speaker 1: to do more for my family, but also I gotta
Speaker 1: I can't. I got to make sure I do everything
Speaker 1: I can to win on Sunday. Dude, I come from
Speaker 1: like a tight knit family. I've been a family guy
Speaker 1: my whole life.
Speaker 4: You know. You know, being married was my greatest accomplishment
Speaker 4: to date, you know is and I obviously we want
Speaker 4: to start a family soon. And I mean you mentioned
Speaker 4: it like during the season it is tough like and
Speaker 4: that's that's another reason why, like we're a perfect match
Speaker 4: and why I married her because she understands. So she
Speaker 4: understands in season, like I'm like, all my time is
Speaker 4: gonna be dedicated to ball. Yeah, we we got our
Speaker 4: Friday date nights. But aside from that, like it's not
Speaker 4: a whole lot of time for anything else.
Speaker 1: You know, Friday date nights, you're probably still thinking things
Speaker 1: in forty eight hours, bro, thinking about the game plan.
Speaker 1: You're never you're never truly present, especially during the season.
Speaker 1: Right and then, uh, this is more me because I
Speaker 1: do this when I finish the season. It kind of
Speaker 1: feels like it takes me like two or three weeks
Speaker 1: to really like decompress, Like I have an anxiety, like
Speaker 1: I should be doing this, I should be doing that,
Speaker 1: and then even those two reasons, you're not like truly
Speaker 1: present either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough, bro, seriously, I mean, especially when you
Speaker 4: lose in the fashion that we like that we lose, Bro,
Speaker 4: I can only imagine instantly unfortunately. But you know when
Speaker 4: you get to the highest point of the mountain and
Speaker 4: then you kind of got to take a sharp you know, downfall, right,
Speaker 4: and it's like it take that takes some time to
Speaker 4: kind of let off. But you know, the off season
Speaker 4: is is crucial though, in terms of like just spending
Speaker 4: time and together and doing things together, taking trips and
Speaker 4: doing that sort of thing. But even then, it's the
Speaker 4: ball never really the way he is not always there,
Speaker 4: you know, So it is.
Speaker 1: A tormenting thing. I got one more question from Will.
Speaker 1: I gotta read it first, go ahead, very long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your reading great? All right? How hold on? I did
Speaker 1: this name in the first word? Are you happy that
Speaker 1: you're good enough now to where the special team coach
Speaker 1: will never bother you again?
Speaker 4: You don't even know his name, do you? You don't
Speaker 4: even know the special team coach's name. The reason why
Speaker 4: it's so funny to me is because obviously Will's been there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: obviously both of you are in it, so you understand, well,
Speaker 4: he understands that as like a linebacker not having to
Speaker 4: be in those meetings you like, you kind of know
Speaker 4: you've made it like not having to do this Special
Speaker 4: Teams anymore. Yeah, No, I mean, I'm hey, whatever they
Speaker 4: need me to do, but it does it is nice to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't got to do the whatever name. You're
Speaker 1: doing everything they need you to do right now. There
Speaker 1: you go, you have done that, paid to play Mike Backer.
Speaker 4: Unfortunate I'm not unfortunately, very fortunately fortunately, but unfortunately for
Speaker 4: I guess our Special Teams group.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not contributing too much over there.
Speaker 1: Do you think you ever like you're extremely successful? You
Speaker 1: have so much opportunity to possibly wear a jacket the
Speaker 1: way you're playing right now when your career is over.
Speaker 1: Thank you ever have a hard time understanding how much
Speaker 1: success you've had, or like really accepting a compliment when
Speaker 1: people give it to you. Absolutely, Yeah, I try to.
Speaker 1: I try better.
Speaker 4: I try to be better about it about just you know,
Speaker 4: genuinely like saying thank you, like to people who give
Speaker 4: me compliments instead of like trying to deflect.
Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot of time for for reflection though.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like you're when you're so dialed in, you're and
Speaker 4: you're in it. There's this constant quest for like just
Speaker 4: the next like what's next, what's next? So there's never
Speaker 4: a time to like really sit down and be like, okay,
Speaker 4: like I've done some cool things, right a little bit,
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not right now. It would be a perfect
Speaker 1: time that you would be reflecting that the season just ended, right,
Speaker 1: How cool was that? All Pro I'm a stun right,
Speaker 1: and then you get back to it.
Speaker 4: But I never I don't even let myself get there
Speaker 4: because you know what, you know what I did after
Speaker 4: my third season, I was the first team All Pro
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl first time, right, Yeah, and I think I
Speaker 4: may have It's not like I don't even think I've
Speaker 4: rested on it either. It's like I reflected though, and
Speaker 4: let myself not feel that like the things that got
Speaker 4: me here in the first place, like all the knocks
Speaker 4: on me, like the chip on my shoulder, all those things,
Speaker 4: like I let those things go. I'm like, okay, I'm
Speaker 4: him now, like all right, whatever, let me let me
Speaker 4: let go of those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they they.
Speaker 4: Gotta stay there, gotta stay there, like you gotta. You
Speaker 4: gotta understand what got you here, what those things were
Speaker 4: said about you. You know, like that that inner fire
Speaker 4: that gets you going like and gets you about of
Speaker 4: bed and to be at your best. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: like that's what That's what drives me, That's what keeps
Speaker 4: me going. And so you know, I'll never really be
Speaker 4: able to reflect until the whole thing's over. Really, I think,
Speaker 4: you know, like you, I mean, the goal is to
Speaker 4: be the best ever, the goal with Super Bowls, and
Speaker 4: then it'll come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll come. It's a team game, and we got
Speaker 1: a good team. It's for the safety of you having
Speaker 1: the same production that you've had. Your mindset is correct now.
Speaker 1: I will tell you someone that has had success in
Speaker 1: this league has made Pro Bowls. It has been all
Speaker 1: pro and you don't take time to reflect on it.
Speaker 1: When you've had two acls in three years. You look
Speaker 1: back on those things and you really think, like, man,
Speaker 1: I really wish I don't know if you watch the Office,
Speaker 1: but it's always like I wish I knew I was
Speaker 1: in the good old times. So someone could tell me
Speaker 1: so I could appreciate it more so I would. I
Speaker 1: would hope that you take a little bit of that
Speaker 1: and just I don't know, go celebrate with a nice
Speaker 1: vacation for sure, and really sit with yourself and be like, dude,
Speaker 1: because you're the fucking man like you really like in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like when you were a child, right, you're
Speaker 1: talking about you growing up and stuff like that, that
Speaker 1: child would look at you and be like, dude, that
Speaker 1: guy's so fucking cool. That's true, and you've like really
Speaker 1: done that and that's like that's that's a incredible feelings
Speaker 1: so real.
Speaker 4: It's the dream. Yeah, it really is the dream, Like
Speaker 4: this is a dream.
Speaker 1: Do you when when did you think, like, seeing where
Speaker 1: you're at now, when did you think to yourself, oh,
Speaker 1: that's an attainable goal. Like at what age did you think, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make the NFL and I'm going to
Speaker 1: be a dude in this NFL. I guess that's two
Speaker 1: separate questions.
Speaker 4: It is things like being being in the NFL and
Speaker 4: being a dude in the NFL are two completely different things. Like,
Speaker 4: I mean, making it is hard enough and then being
Speaker 4: the one percent of the one percent is like insane. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean I thought I knew for sure.
Speaker 4: I always wanted to be in the NFL. That's always like,
Speaker 4: you know, you have your little kid dreams of I
Speaker 4: want to I want to play in the NFL when
Speaker 4: I grew up, you know, but it seemed real when
Speaker 4: I got to college and like after my second season,
Speaker 4: like my coaches were telling me like, hey, like teams
Speaker 4: are you know, giving you draft grades of if you know,
Speaker 4: like when you do come out, I'm okay, Like it
Speaker 4: seems like it's right there, it's attainable. Yeah, And then
Speaker 4: getting in the league and knowing that I could possibly
Speaker 4: be amongst the top, probably late in my second year
Speaker 4: started balling a little bit. I got a couple of
Speaker 4: like player of the week's Player of the month, and
Speaker 4: was making plays against the top guys. A Rod I
Speaker 4: think that was the year. Was that the year and
Speaker 4: my third year was when a Rod after the game
Speaker 4: told me He's like, you're the best, like you should
Speaker 4: be all pro. And I'm like, well, yes, yeah, hell, yes,
Speaker 4: that's what I was validating, Like, yeah, it's Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 4: like the like the best of the best.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's awesome. It's going from b YU too,
Speaker 1: like that's a factory out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, we got we got, we got kicked. We
Speaker 4: got kicked in pretty good by mission my second year.
Speaker 4: Good yeah, good good, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Nice. Oh he's got her all soon? All right, one
Speaker 1: last thing, speaking of b YU, you have an offer
Speaker 1: to every single school in the country. You can't go
Speaker 1: to b YU. Where is the school that you would
Speaker 1: go right now? Right now? Yes? Because mine has kind
Speaker 1: of changed over That's why I asked that mine's changed
Speaker 1: a little bit, as I've mentioned an, I'll give you
Speaker 1: mine in a little bit. I want to hear yours.
Speaker 4: So my team, like we talked about my team growing up,
Speaker 4: dream team was USC, and I think now with obviously
Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley there easily go to USC.
Speaker 1: I'd easily go to USC, played with Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: mine was growing up Pete Carroll at USC.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 1: And then that was when Colt McCoy was at Texas
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, those two schools, it would
Speaker 1: be fucking awesome. Yeah. Nice. As I get older and
Speaker 1: if I couldn't go to Michigan, I think, uh, dude,
Speaker 1: I think l s U is a fucking cool school. Really. Yes,
Speaker 1: I dated a girl in college that went to LSU,
Speaker 1: so I spent some time in Baton Rouge. The campus
Speaker 1: is rad. The stadium aarently is amazing, like in game experience.
Speaker 1: So that's like I feel like that's where I would
Speaker 1: lean to see my wife wins Obama. Yeah, so she's
Speaker 1: actually probably gonna be angry. I didn't say Bama, but
Speaker 1: there it's Obama boy. Yeah, roll tied. Oh yeah, nice brother.
Speaker 1: It's been an absolute pleasure for having you on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Than you, it has been amazing. That was an awkward
Speaker 1: handshake from me. I kind of got you. We'll get
Speaker 1: another one when it's over. But seriously, a huge fan
Speaker 1: of you after meeting you, I'm an even bigger fan now.
Speaker 1: I hope all the success for you. Hopefully you guys
Speaker 1: are in the super Bowl next year. For all of
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