WEBVTT - Week 15 Fantasy Football Reactions & Injuries + Early Week 16 Waiver Wire (Ep. 1490) 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:05.680 All right, and welcome into the Fansy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:09.960 It is the week fifteen reaction episode. Some fantasy football 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.000 teams are celebrating moving on to the next round of 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:16.400 the playoffs, some are mourning their losses, and others still 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:17.439 hang in the balance. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.400 I'm your host, Seth Wilcock. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.360 And is always helping us break down the biggest injuries 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.959 of the day. The best medical sports professional on the Internet, 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:30.080 orthopedic surgeon the founder of sports med Analytics, doctor Deepak 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:32.680 Chona Deepak, thank you so much for joining us tonight. 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:32.879 Man. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:34.480 How are your fantasy playoffs going? 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:34.839 So far? 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.640 So far, so good. Everything's a tight, tightly contested matchup, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.840 but you wouldn't have it any other way, so we'll 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:41.360 keep going. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.239 I don't know, man, I would take the blowouts where 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:44.800 I can get them. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.960 I'll tell you that right now. I'll tell you that 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.000 right now. But it's a fun fun to sweat them out. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.720 So appreciate you joining us as always making time for 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.120 us in your busy schedule. I'm also joined by our 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.840 NFL and college football expert here at Fantasy Pro, Scott 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.840 Bogman Boggs. It was the first weekend in about four 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.600 months we'd have a full slate of college football on Saturday. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.440 But I'd say the NFL on Sunday really made up 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:07.880 for the great slate of games. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.640 Yeah, lots of games, no bye week, so you know, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.920 lots to get through here today, and a lot of 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.680 fun games as well. Hopefully you guys Starry Devonte Adams, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.840 boy did he look good today. Probably carried a lot 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.080 of teams. Shash Allen with another great game as well. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.839 Lots of big time performers. Not our team, our team, 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:31.440 let us down, seth. But I have nine teams alive, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.560 four with buyes. I have five playing this week. I 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.160 think I'm gonna lose two, so okay, we'll have you know, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.120 however many that is going next seven going next week. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.320 So I'm there with you. I'm there with you. We've 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.840 got a pack program for everyone tonight. As Bog said, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.520 a lot to get to in the next sixty ish minutes. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.360 We're gonna cover the injuries with Deepak and we'll go 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.400 through game by game breaking down all the fantasy football 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.440 goodness and sadness. That's a twelve games delivered today before 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.480 we get going. I did want to thank the fantasy 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.440 Pros community for tuning in tonight with us. Last Sunday, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.120 I asked you to send me a DM if you're 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.480 losing with Josh Allen in your lineup. I did get 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.359 a few messages of some lineups and some very kind 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.320 words about the show as well, So thank you all 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:15.639 for that. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.320 We greatly greatly appreciate it. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.480 If you are here hanging out on the Fancy Pros 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.000 YouTube channel, please give this video a thumbs up if 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.639 you enjoy this type of content. Plus subscribe to the 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.200 channel if you are new. And let's get right into 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.080 the injuries boys, because oh my goodness, was it a doozy? 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.240 Starting with Patrick Mahomes suffers an ankle injury. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.079 DPOK. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.040 There's really no getting past this one. Patrick Mahomes pretty 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.920 brutal looking injury for a second, but you know, this 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.840 guy's a little bit of an iron man. Always seems 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.040 to be able to get back on the field. There's 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.200 only about five minutes left in this game there up 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.120 by two scores, so we don't know the severity of it. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.839 What's your initial reporting on what happened to the three 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:54.959 time Super Bowl MVP. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.880 Yeah, they're calling you a high ankle and it certainly 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.960 is consistent with the video as well. The thing about 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.679 these high ankles is that a lot of elite quarterbacks 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.680 have started to kind of consistently play through these, and 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.520 Patrick Mahomes actually won a Super Bowl playing through one 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.600 of these as well. Now, the couple things that help 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.880 him are that he has good straight line speeds, so 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.320 he can still scramble a little bit. Typically, you do 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.520 see a dip in player passing excuse me, and player 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.440 rushing attempts for quarterbacks when they play through these. Passing 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:32.040 is usually pretty well maintained, and his strong arm, plus 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.400 his kind of different ability to vary his arm angles, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.120 gives him a little extra flexibility even if he can't 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.080 fully push off of that ankle. So overall, I'm not 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.120 terribly concerned there is some risk here, But for Patrick 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.520 Mahomes specifically, I think he's on the more durable side 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.080 with these types of injuries. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.040 Okay, So if you had to put your money down 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.320 right now over under, if he plays, would you put 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.480 money that he plays next week? 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:57.320 I would think so. Yeah. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:58.920 Okay, even being a short week. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.440 Okay, given that it is a short week for Mahomes, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.840 if he's out there and he's not at one hundred 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.720 percent per se? Are you still feeling good about these 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.520 other options in the receiving game? Travis Kelsey kind of 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.080 down game for him. Worthy ad a nice game. Hopkins 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.320 has been serviceable as well. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.120 Yeah, I mean there's not a lot trustable for the 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.560 Chiefs anyway. We'll get a little more into that when 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.960 we get to that game. But Worthy saw a little 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:27.000 bit more. Hopkins had a tough game. They rotate those 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.760 wide receivers a bunch. Marquise Brown is coming back soon 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.080 as well, So I don't know that there's a lot 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.040 trustable in Kansas City right now outside of Kelsey, and 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:40.000 Kelsey had a bad game, So yeah, I think with Mahomes, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.600 even at less than one hundred percent, I don't think 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.360 those guys change much. But the rotation obviously has this 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:51.360 kind of eyebrow peeking Hunt split today with Pacheco as well, 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.280 So a lot of questions in the Chiefs offense coming 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:55.440 forward in the next two weeks. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.480 Yeah, And things didn't get really better for fantasy managers 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.000 throughout the day. From an injury perspective. We had the 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.880 perhaps fancy football MVP Saquon Barkley, who picked up a 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.719 hip injury. He did return in this game, but definitely 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.240 did not see his full workload. What do we think 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:11.360 happen here, Doc. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.400 Yeah, it's a little unclear. There wasn't any drastic video 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.920 to really point to the way he was stretching afterwards. 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.919 Kind of suggests that he maybe tightened up in the 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.520 hip area. With these types of things, usually do see 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.039 players not see their full workload because they want to 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.440 load manage at the risk of re injury. So with 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.240 that in mind, I would expect this to be a 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.160 short term absence, if any from practice and probably playing 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.000 pretty close to full strength from here. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:41.080 Bugs. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.960 With that being said, probably not any time missed for 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.240 Saquon Barkley. Are you still picking up Kenneth Gainwell if 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.760 you roster Barkley just in case maybe he reinjured something 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.360 next week or anything happens to him downstretch, I. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.279 Think it's a good idea, especially with like you know, 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.880 somewhat limited pickups here. We do have some injuries that 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.560 will open up some job here at the end of 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.280 the year, of course, but you know, I think if 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.080 you're rostering Saquon, I think it's a pretty good idea. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.040 If he's carrying around an injury designation this week, Like 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.320 if he's questionable, to just roster gain Well and make 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.000 sure you're okay, unless you know you're flushed with running backs. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.039 You got four or five in there, and yeah, you 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.640 know you have whoever is a better option than gain Well. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.839 I would understand that, but I think in most scenarios, 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.520 if you're rostering Barkley, you're gonna want a roster gain 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.120 Well with an injury designation. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:29.760 Here, Gainwell is a solid back. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.599 He's been a vet, He's been on this team for 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.160 that that dynamic Super Bowl run a couple of years ago. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.479 And the Steelers made him look really good today too. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.440 I mean he made a lot of guys miss today. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.359 He was good. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.960 So sticking with some more injuries here, we had Miami 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.120 Dolphins wide receiver Jalen Waddle exit with a knee injury. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.960 This was pretty brutal as well kind of got trapped 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.760 underneath a defender. What do we know about the former 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.680 Alabama Crimson Tide wide receiver here? 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.560 Deepak, Yeah, the video makes me suspicious for an MCL 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.719 spring that would in some ways be best case scenario 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.080 because it's a sort of a short term type of 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.600 injury Uh, the a CL and the miniscus are also 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.520 at a little bit of risk with the way that 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.800 his knee got rolled up on, so Emri will probably 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.200 be tomorrow. I do expect him to at least be 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.960 out a week. Average MCL takes two weeks, so you'd 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.080 still it'd be a little bit dicey. But they're they're 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.360 saying hopefully the last week of the season he may 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:25.520 be able to return. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:26.440 Wow. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.080 Wow that I mean it was tough today too if 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.600 you had well, I had Watt in a couple of 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.560 leagues and he gave me the zero and probably won't 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.440 won't need him next week because I won't be playing 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.640 next week. Still, But Boggs, how does this change your 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.400 evaluation of Tyreek Hill, who pretty much dropped another stinker today, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.080 and then John new Smith, who legitimately looks like the 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.119 best tight end in the league right now. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.080 Yeah, I think we saw two of stare down Johnny 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.040 a little bit. I'm sure Deepak was enjoying that Bullock 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.080 missed a pick and then got one on passes to 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.520 Waddle and then Stanley picked off uh, you know, two 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.960 passes towards Hill as well. So just not a great 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.600 day for Tua in the offense. But yeah, I think 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.360 Malik Washington steps up here. I think Tyreek Hill is 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.280 going to be okay, I think it was Stingley this week. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.560 I know, Deepak, you had told us before with the 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.520 risk injury that Tyreek Catt is just going to get 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.480 worse until he eventually gets surgery. Are you seeing anything 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.320 from him while he's playing that indicates that that risk 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.160 is really bothering him or is it more about being 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.520 blanketed by Singley today? 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.080 You know, I think we're going to be seeing a 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.880 decreaseed separation because when he's trying to get off the line, 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.240 he's going to be engaging through that risk, exerting a 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.760 lot of force. So I think it starts at the 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.640 line of scrimmage, and then the catching ability in traffic 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.920 and that sort of thing is also going to be hampered. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.680 So I think it's probably the combination more than anything else. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.480 We haven't seen Tyreek Hill standard production, and to me, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.280 I think it very much lines up with the sequence 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.640 of things getting worse over time. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:52.720 Okay. Interesting. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.360 Some more injuries of note here New Orleans Saints running 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.959 back Alvin Kamara. He suffered a groin injury what's the lake? 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.440 Just about the current RB three in Fantasy right now? 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:07.280 Deepak, Yeah, Kamara did not return. The not totally clear 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.040 how severe this really is, but most players miss at 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.959 least one week, so we kind of tentatively be making 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.280 plans without him, and if he plays, it's kind of 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:18.240 a bonus in my eyes. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:19.160 Bogs. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.800 Where would Kendre Miller rank for you against Green Bay 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.319 or Las Vegas if there is no Alvin Kamara in 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:24.800 the lineup? 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.680 Yeah, I mean that whole offense is bad, so still 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.600 not very high, probably low end RB two, you know, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.280 something like that. He would get a bunch of work. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.000 We would assume Jamal Williams is getting pretty much nothing 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.760 right now. And Spencer Ratler, you know they Ben Channer, 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.880 they went to Rattler. All of the wide receivers are hurt. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.000 I mean, I think it would be pretty surprised, as 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.000 I would be pretty surprised to see Kamara not only 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.400 playing this game. But you know, what do you what 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.600 are you running him out there for? Let's see, let's 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.240 give Miller an extended look. I know you want these 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.320 guys to play, but that is your franchise right there, 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.040 so you don't want him to get hurt. I mean, 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.880 we'll have a new coaching staff in their next year, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.240 anything to change things out. But let's get a look 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.920 at Miller. I think at least this week, and yeah, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.080 I mean the whole offense is pretty broken. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:11.960 Yeah. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.880 Yeah, it's tough to really have any like heavy faith 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.080 in Miller. I think if you need an ARB two start, 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.800 spot start, he might be the guy. But this is 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.000 someone coming out to TCU. I don't know about you, Bogs, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.319 what your evaluation was of him, but I didn't think 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.520 he was a special player by any means, but definitely 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.680 has been living in the doghouts for a few years now. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.120 Yeah, not a jag, but you know that offense made 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:32.960 him look pretty good. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:33.920 Absolutely. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.160 We also had Cleveland Brown's running back Nick Chubb break 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.200 his foot that led the way to a big day 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.120 from Jerome Ford depawk. What does the recovery timeline look 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.160 like for Nick Chubb obviously out for the rest of 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.280 the season, and what does this do to his dynasty 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.280 value given two substantial knee injuries already dating back to 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.520 his college days and now this broken foot as well. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.800 Yeah, this does kind of add up basically in terms 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.440 of his overall outlook, I would expect him to be 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.679 back by the start of next year. But with that 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.200 being said, of course, this is depends on a little 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.880 bit where the foot is fractured. Minimum usually at least 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.800 six six to eight weeks, so this will probably not 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.280 hamper him. My guess would be for next season though. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.520 Okay, Buggs, you kind of have to throw Nick Chubb 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.560 up to almost like a lost season. Really at this point, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.920 especially if you're a dynasty manager, do you think they 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.280 probably replace him in the draft. I mean, this is 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.719 one of the best running back classes I think we've 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.160 ever seen as far as depth goes. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.839 It is, but if the fans he's still the coach, 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.480 he is obsessed with Nick Chubb, he still is too. Okay, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.080 I think if they were gonna do that, they probably 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.080 would have done it this offseason. So I mean, we'll see, 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.520 you know, what happens with Nick Chubb in the future. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.760 But he just didn't look right the whole year. And 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.920 this is why we don't draft guys hurt going into 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.120 the season for the most part. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.520 Right, Like, you know, if we. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.400 Hit up Deepak and Deepak tells us, hey, I know 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.200 for sure this guy's gonna be back and at one 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.600 hundred percent pretty quick in the season than fine. But 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.560 if there's any murkiness, any question, I'm just avoiding those 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.400 guys like the plague from now on, no thank you. 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.480 And that's kind of what we had with Nick Chubb here. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.600 Well, Deepak, you've done a lot of research on running 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.720 backs coming back from ACL tears. I know you were 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.200 kind of off Saquan a couple of years ago when 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.520 he came back from his first ACL tair Breece Hall 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.280 last year a little bit of an outlier, I would 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.280 say based on his performances, But just in general, do 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.480 you try to avoid running backs coming off of a 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.640 significant knee injury the year prior. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.680 Yeah, so if it's more than just an ACL like 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.480 multiple ligaments, as Nick Chubb's previously were, the data on 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.480 those the first year back is pretty rough, and we 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.880 saw that with JK. Dobbins a couple of years back 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.360 as well. When he first came back. He just was 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.319 not himself. You saw it in spurts, but you also 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:54.040 saw him get chased down at times. And the players 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.760 who are coming off just a clean ACL, there's a 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:01.240 certain mold of player that really fits a strong recovery 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.960 in year one, and that's going to be your younger 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.960 players under twenty five, those who were drafted in the 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.200 first two rounds, and then we look at their sort 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.080 of athletic scores, their combined percentiles, and their spark scores. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.800 So the explosive metrics there are also very much tied 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.360 to a faster recovery. So if you fit all three 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.920 of those, then you're looking at your Breast Hauls, your 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:30.360 Saquon Barkley's. You're actually ironically Jonathan Brooks as well this year, 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.360 So it doesn't it's not a one hundred percent hit rate, 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.200 but certainly that's the mold of an outlier. So that's 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:38.679 kind of the way I look at it. If they 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.360 fit that mold, their timeline looks right, then I would 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.120 still take those shots because you just get such value 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.400 on like a TJ. Hawkinson, who was probably your last 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.520 round pick, and then now he may be useful in 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:53.840 the next two weeks in the playoffs. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.600 Very very true, bog Speaking of useful Drome forward, he 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.800 went for eighteen point nine Fantasy points, had a big 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.319 game down the sideline. He has also scored over seven 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.800 PPR points in three straight games now where will Ford 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.040 be ranked next week against Cincinnati and then in week 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.160 seventeen against Miami. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.840 Pretty high against Cincinnati, especially if they're going to DTR. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.400 They benched Jamis in this game, so DTR would signal, 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.440 you know, they're gonna run the ball way more, which 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.480 they probably should be doing because the defense has been 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:23.040 pretty bad. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.880 So uh yeah, I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.400 We'll have to watch hard knocks and see what happens 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.080 in the background with Jamis and DTR and all that stuff. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.200 But yeah, I think Jerome Ford has a really good 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.240 matchup here against Since the next week and. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.680 Depak before we let you go, we usually don't focus 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.840 much on the defensive side of the ball, but there's 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.600 no more impactful player on the defense than TJ Watt 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.960 And just moments before going live, he went out with 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.040 what looked like a non contact injury. What do you 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:50.800 think happened here? 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.240 Also, we need to know because we're steeling. 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.520 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, let's clarify that as well. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.720 Yeah, you know, it looks like an ankle sprain and 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.560 there wasn't anything drastic about it, but it, uh, it 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.920 makes you wonder are they going to really push him 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.360 back knowing that if they rest him a little bit longer, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.880 the re injury risk comes way down. So that's kind 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.800 of the balance here. I would expect him to be back. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.840 I don't expect this to be a long term issue, 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.200 and most players actually would even play in one to 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:24.960 two weeks. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.360 That is a sigh releast because Boggs, I don't know 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.000 if you thought the same thing I did at first. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.400 I was like, exactly what I thought. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.920 Okay, okay, so every Steelers fan that we all thought 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.480 about it, Yeah, well there there goes the year. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:38.360 Yeah. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.400 So and to your point, you know, you can't really 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:46.240 rule it out from this video. So the achilles, Yeah yeah, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.160 the achilles you can't really tell from from the video. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.280 To me, I would say, it's still for it. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:55.680 That was what concerned me. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.000 He grad right forward and he doesn't have a major 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.920 twist or bend to the ankle, so you know, you 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.000 could very well be looking at achilles. I would say, 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.560 there's some reports floating around that it's low ankle, but 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.960 you the video not not really that revealing here, Okay. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.160 Okay, so we still need to panic a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.400 until we get official word. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, inject anxiety for the next 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:25.520 forty eight hours done. Not really fantasy relevant as well, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.960 but we did see a scary scene with Dolphins wide 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.320 receiver Grant the Bows who went down in Miami. We 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.080 saw him getting stretchered off without his jersey and pads on. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.800 What does that usually indicate? Deep hawk and what's your 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.040 inkling on what happened to the wide receiver here? 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.000 Yeah, my suspicion is that he was kind of not responsive. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.240 When that's the case, the sort of protocol or the 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.040 recommendations is to take everything off, kind of control his 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.200 airway and control his neck, and then immobilize him and 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.720 get him basically straight to the hospital. So that's that's 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.680 kind of the I think the issue of what they 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.920 were doing. It doesn't sound like the worst case scenario 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.640 type that it could have been, but I think as 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.800 a precaution they do all these steps and these are 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.280 kind of the standard of care, if you will. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.960 Okay, all right, well, Tea's and peas to Grant and 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.399 his family. Man's that's a scary scene. We never like 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.240 to see that as football fans, But big thank you 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.600 to the medical professionals. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:22.880 Down there in Miami. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.920 That seemed to be very quick on the response there 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.520 for Dubos and Deepok. Also thank you tonight for breaking 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:30.960 down all these injuries. I know we had a lot 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.960 to get to, so thank you for that. Make sure 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.600 you guys are checking out Deepak's work on Twitter at 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.920 sports med Analytics and also the website sportsman Analytics dot com. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.040 I'm right right on that, Deepak. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.639 Yep, you got it sportsman Analytics dot com and sport 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.680 md Analysis on Twitter and here every week. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:48.280 Awesome. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.399 Well, thank you so much for joining us as always, Deepak. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.880 We'll catch you next week and boggs Le's go ahead 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.919 and jump into the game recaps right after this. The 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.040 fantasy season is. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.960 Like running a marathon, checking your lineup, tracking injury news, 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.080 making trades, Monday night waivers. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.200 You've got to show up day in and day. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.600 Out for seventeen weeks. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.879 So how do you dominate your league without it feeling 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:09.920 like a second job. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.440 The answer is by playbook. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.399 Sinking your league with my playbook is totally free, and 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:15.480 it makes winning. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:16.240