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Speaker 3: Independence Day brought us dueling visions of America, one presented

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Speaker 3: by the Mayor of New York and the other presented

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Speaker 3: by the President of the United States, both triggering lots

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Speaker 3: of other Americans.

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Speaker 4: Let's roll Momdani.

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Speaker 3: To start in the Mayor of New York with a

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Speaker 3: July third address, surrounded by some recent Americans.

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Speaker 5: That legacy of every generation of Americans insisting that the

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Speaker 5: right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness extends

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Speaker 5: to them too, is no relic of the past. It

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Speaker 5: carried millions of Black Americans north during the Great Migration,

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Speaker 5: it drew hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans to New

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Speaker 5: York City. After the Second World War, it invited countless

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Speaker 5: others from the West Indies and South Asia and West

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Speaker 5: Africa and across the world. And it is what brought

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Speaker 5: my family to the city when I was seven years old.

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Speaker 5: My family did not arrive by boat, although we saw

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Speaker 5: the statue of liberty from the window of the plane.

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Speaker 5: Even from the air, we could make out the promise

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Speaker 5: of America, the promise of the beautiful, patriotic work of

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Speaker 5: rendering America year after year a little more faithful to

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Speaker 5: its founding ideals. There is a term so often used

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Speaker 5: to describe our nation and those who have shaped it,

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Speaker 5: American exceptionalism. American exceptionalism that conventional wisdom tells us makes

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Speaker 5: our freedom a little more free. As how we dug

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Speaker 5: the Erie Canal and irrigated the West is why children

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Speaker 5: in far away lands grow up dreaming of one day

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Speaker 5: moving here. And yet the irony is that the story

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Speaker 5: of America has so often been written by those who

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Speaker 5: were told by others with power and influence and wealth

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Speaker 5: that they were anything but exceptional. For generation after generation,

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Speaker 5: we have been told that when the world has sent

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Speaker 5: its people to our shores, it has not sent its best.

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Speaker 5: It sent Puritans and Sikhs, and Quakers and Muslims and

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Speaker 5: Jewish people who were banished for praying the wrong way,

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Speaker 5: worshiping the wrong gods, angering the wrong people. It sent

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Speaker 5: peasants and serfs from slums and schattles who were treated

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Speaker 5: as less because they hardly owned clothes, let alone land.

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Speaker 5: It sent immigrants from whom power was something someone else had.

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Speaker 5: We are told that America is exceptional because we are richer, stronger,

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Speaker 5: more powerful than everyone else. The truth, my friends, is

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Speaker 5: that America is exceptional because here nothing is fixed into place.

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Speaker 5: The frontier may be closed, we may have walked on

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Speaker 5: the moon, but the work of fulfilling the values first

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Speaker 5: enshrined in the Declaration of Independence. That work endures, and

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Speaker 5: it belongs.

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Speaker 4: To us all.

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Speaker 5: It belongs to to our newest Americans, those standing here

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Speaker 5: with me today, all of whom were recently naturalized. Nearly

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Speaker 5: a decade ago, I too felt what you feel, the

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Speaker 5: joy of no longer being just a New Yorker, but

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Speaker 5: an American too. You each hold a special power, the

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Speaker 5: power to determine what America means.

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Speaker 3: President Trump, meanwhile, for some reason, waited until after eleven pm.

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Speaker 6: Basically, the weather was so bad here in DC. It

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Speaker 4: You didn't have a roof somewhere.

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Speaker 7: People have been out on the mall forever on the

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Speaker 7: fourth of July, and so they delayed the fireworks. Although

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Speaker 7: there still was lightning during the fireworks. It was a

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Speaker 7: pretty It was kind of cool, but it was like

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Speaker 7: a very chaotic and dangerous situation.

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Speaker 4: It was. And also this guy kills me. Fireworks are

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Speaker 3: Children, right, I mean, adults think they're cool for like

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Speaker 4: You started them at midnight. It was wrong with you.

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Speaker 4: And one reason they started midnight is because Trump had

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Speaker 6: Why forty minute speech?

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Speaker 7: Well, all of the musical acts canceled and after that

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Speaker 7: Trump said, all right, I'm just gonna I.

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Speaker 6: Was going to do it last.

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Speaker 3: They said, we have the greatest performer with the biggest paw,

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Speaker 3: So what do we need all these you know, these

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Speaker 7: Who didn't know they'd been booked, was basically the story.

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Speaker 7: And some of them, yeah, anyway, So.

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Speaker 3: Trump played the hits for us here. Let's roll some Trump.

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Speaker 8: He vanquished fascism, Americans against the evil of communism in

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Speaker 8: the Cold War. And as they said last night at

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Speaker 8: the beautiful Mount Rushmore, what a beautiful place where Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln,

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Speaker 8: America will never be a communist country.

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Speaker 6: Won't happen.

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Speaker 8: Communism is a loser and it always will be. The

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Speaker 8: communist system is the opposite of the American system. And

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Speaker 8: the communist system has never worked. Warriors did not fight

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Speaker 8: communism on battlefields across the world only to have that

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Speaker 8: menace rear its ugly head right back here in America.

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Speaker 6: We're not going to let it happen.

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Speaker 8: We'd like to stop a threat like that immediately and

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Speaker 8: before it begins, just like a cancer, you got to

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Speaker 8: cut it out. You got to cut it out fast.

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Speaker 3: Now, hold on, we got a fact check. He says

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Speaker 3: we fought communism on the battlefield. We have met communism

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Speaker 3: on the battlefield in Vietnam, Korea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the more overt conflicts.

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Speaker 3: And you know, maybe we want to say Angola or

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Speaker 3: Central America. Where did we beat communism on the battlefield?

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Speaker 7: Where did we beat it? The question that is not

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Speaker 7: where we met it, but we met it.

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Speaker 3: He says we beat them, right or did he just

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Speaker 3: say we fought them? He didn't mention and YadA YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 7: Well, we fought them.

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Speaker 4: We definitely fought them.

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Speaker 6: He listen. I obviously we.

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Speaker 3: Won the Cold War. You can say that, but that's

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Speaker 3: a battle feeling right right, right right? Or did we Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just China. Still, this was forgot about China.

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Speaker 7: Well, he just referenced the speech that he gave the

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Speaker 7: day before at Mount Rushmore. He may have also mentioned

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Speaker 7: the like communist threat when he was doing the Teddy

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Speaker 7: Roosevelt Library opening. But what was rolled out this weekend

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Speaker 7: after zaramm Danni, after the Dializa victory, the milak Kiro's victory.

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Speaker 7: Clearly they have poll tested communism instead of socialism. And

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Speaker 7: that's the significance of bringing both of these speeches together

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Speaker 7: in the same place, because clearly they just started testing this.

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Speaker 7: And I honestly like to the extent that I don't

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Speaker 7: think we talk quite enough and audience members will hate

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Speaker 7: me for saying this, but quite enough about some of

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Speaker 7: the history of communism in the twentieth century.

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Speaker 6: This is the politics of this.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure are going to resonate, actually, and I

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Speaker 7: would question their poll testing of just turning people who

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Speaker 7: are saying politically things about, well, our democratic socialism is

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Speaker 7: just medica for all, and you know like that. I

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Speaker 7: don't know that turning them into the communists are trying

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Speaker 7: to transmogrify democratic socialism into communism in the American imagination

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Speaker 7: actually is the best political maneuver, which was interesting.

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Speaker 6: I see it.

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Speaker 4: I don't see how it would work.

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Speaker 3: Bannon doesn't seem to think so either, Right, So let's

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Speaker 3: let's roll Steve Bannon here.

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Speaker 9: I want to talk about the labor participation rate. That

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Speaker 9: essentially means basically thirty nine percent or thirty nine almost

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Speaker 9: forty percent of people eligible to work or out of

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Speaker 9: the labor force. Why do you think the marxisty hottest

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Speaker 9: are getting traction and men Domi's not ten feet high.

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Speaker 9: Don't believe that at all. In fact, I think he's

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Speaker 9: got He potentially has feet of clay if you move

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Speaker 9: and moves smartly. But here's what you can't do, Republicans

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Speaker 9: in the pundit class. He's got a ton of pundits.

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Speaker 9: You can't take a copy of Milton Friedman and throw

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Speaker 9: it at him or Atlas Shrugged. You're going to go

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Speaker 9: back to the Paul Ryan and to all the playbook

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Speaker 9: at Ted Cruz's entire crowd. This is how you got

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Speaker 9: in this jam. You're not going to take Atlas Shrug

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Speaker 9: and throw it at him. You're not going to take

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Speaker 9: Milton Friedman's but freedom and capitalism throw it at him.

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Speaker 4: That's not going to work.

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Speaker 9: Why is it not going to work? Because the elites

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Speaker 9: in this country have sold the country out all this

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Speaker 9: garbage and talk about free trade and free trade and

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Speaker 9: free trade, and you had a mercantilist system run by

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Speaker 9: real hardcore communists in China, of which the American business

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Speaker 9: community and most of the Republican donors underwrote to take

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Speaker 9: your jobs. This is why this entire situation is like

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Speaker 9: a Greek tragedy, and that the great strength of our

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: And the main the thing I've seen thrown at Mam

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Speaker 3: Donnie is this Paul Ryan line makers makers versus takers,

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Speaker 3: and they're like, Mam Donnie is a taker, and it

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Speaker 3: puts it puts the speaker in the position of saying

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Speaker 3: are you know, we're the boss where we built the factory,

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Speaker 3: we built this. You're just taking from us, You're just leeches.

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Speaker 3: It's unpatriotic in the sense that it's it's denigrating, you know,

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Speaker 3: huge swaths of the of the country. And it doesn't

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Speaker 3: really delineate where the takers begin, like our union workers

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Speaker 3: think if they weren't organizing for that would just be

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Speaker 3: be able to take home. They certainly think at all

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Speaker 3: public service workers or takers. And so yeah, for Bannon,

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Speaker 3: he's like, no, this is you need a different playbook,

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Speaker 3: Like you try that and here we are.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think is like what would you

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Speaker 4: throw at them?

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Speaker 3: What you were you have deming the way Paul Ryan's

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Speaker 3: God forbid.

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Speaker 7: The way that they don't see it is they think

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Speaker 7: they can say this is going to be such a disaster.

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Speaker 7: But people think the status quo is a disaster. And

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Speaker 7: so if you are just saying what's going to happen

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Speaker 7: is going to be a disaster, it doesn't work anymore

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Speaker 7: because people feel like we are in a disaster, and

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Speaker 7: a lot of people do.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying everybody does.

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Speaker 7: There's some people who have very comfortable lives and probably

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Speaker 7: still will be moved by the Paul Ryan language, but

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Speaker 7: it's not everyone, and it's not most people anymore. If

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Speaker 7: you're looking at polling about how socialism fares with young

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Speaker 7: people or public opinion of socialism with younger Americans particularly,

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Speaker 7: it's really not that much of a political win to

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Speaker 7: just be like, oh, Ryan Grimm's is socialist. They're like, oh, interesting,

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Speaker 7: tell me what you want to do to make my

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Speaker 7: life easier. And so you have to proactively explain what

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Speaker 7: you're going to do that's not the status quo. You

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Speaker 7: a socialist. You actually have to have a positive vision

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Speaker 7: for what would transform the status quo, which is what

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Speaker 7: the socialists are doing now.

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Speaker 7: If you want to take democratic socialism out of Brooklyn

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Speaker 3: And what he did which I loved, which was that

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Speaker 3: Like let's start tacting a little bit of their wealth

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Speaker 6: You had to buy it inside.

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Speaker 3: It's the National Mall, and they had, They had no

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Speaker 7: I don't think there were enough FBI people in the crowd.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to join. They wanted to join the parade.

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Speaker 7: Wild scenes on the fourth of July, America's two hundred

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what it was. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, in Trump's defense, who knew that fireworks create a

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Speaker 6: It's hard to predict that.

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Speaker 3: It's very hard to predict that wouldn't have seen that coming.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of though, the stupidest person on the planet. I

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Speaker 3: months shy of the twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: This is what New York City's mayor has to say

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Speaker 4: Mom Donnie is unwell.

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Speaker 3: of all, it's two months and a week shy of

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Speaker 3: nine to eleven, nine to eleven, Like what is.

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: I want to know what is the window around September

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Speaker 3: eleventh where a Muslim has to be like conscious of

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Speaker 3: what they're saying about New York City? Is it three months?

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Speaker 3: So so every from June through I guess like September, October, November,

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Speaker 3: December maybe into January. So June into January basically, but

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Speaker 3: then if you get into February, like you're getting close

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Speaker 3: to the sixth month by annual anniversary of nine to eleven,

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Speaker 3: so you got to be careful around that time too.

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Speaker 3: It's like, how did you bring nine to eleven into this?

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Speaker 3: I don't you know, absolutely, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of absolute morons, let's talk about the Michigan Senate race.

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Speaker 7: There we go, surprising news out of the Michigan Democratic

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Speaker 7: Senate primary yesterday, as again it's a Sunday, and Mallory

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Speaker 7: mcmorro suspended her campaign for the Michigan Senate Democratic nomination.

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Speaker 7: Let's take a listen to her announcement video today.

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Speaker 11: I'm announcing that I am suspending my campaign for United

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Speaker 11: States Senate, and I'm doing it with a deep, deep

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Speaker 11: sense of gratitude for our thousands of volunteers, for everyone

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Speaker 11: who donated what you could building a campaign with zero

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Speaker 11: corporate pack dollars.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that was like the consultant focus group tested candidate

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Speaker 7: in this race, who I think a lot of consultant

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Speaker 7: types on the left ryn they thought with Mallard mcmorro,

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Speaker 7: who initially went viral for pushing back on quote unquote

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Speaker 7: book bands, which actually it was a lot of Muslims

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Speaker 7: in Michigan that we're upset about. It was a lot

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Speaker 7: of Christians, a lot of Muslims as well. But she

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Speaker 7: went viral during the pandemic era because people were saying,

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Speaker 7: here we have this normal Michigan mom making a kind

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Speaker 7: of inspirational left argument against this and look, she seems

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Speaker 7: like a normal soccer mom, and we might be able

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Speaker 7: to take her all the way to the Senate. She's

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Speaker 7: actually lived in California right before moving to Michigan. I

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Speaker 7: think maybe her husban's for Michigan or something like that.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, vote for Gawker, right, did she think so?

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 7: After all of that, Malar mcmorro suspended her Senate campaign.

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Speaker 7: Let's take a look at this throwback conversation between Emma

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Speaker 7: Viigland and Malar mcmorroe on Medicare for all.

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Speaker 10: A public option is an improvement, of course on the

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Speaker 10: private marketplace and the affordable care, but that would still

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Speaker 10: involve premiums and deductibles. Why not go all the way

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Speaker 10: to medicare for all?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I hear you on the vision, I one hundred

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Speaker 12: percent do.

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Speaker 13: And what I know, after almost a decade, as experience

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Speaker 13: in a legislator is that you need to push as

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Speaker 13: far as you possibly can while building the coalition of

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Speaker 13: votes to actually get it across the line. And the

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Speaker 13: support for a true single payer system isn't there yet.

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Speaker 10: I think that when we're talking about how to keep

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Speaker 10: a coalition together, the seventy seven percent of Democrats that

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Speaker 10: think Israel's committing genocide, the ninety percent of Democrats that

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Speaker 10: do that have a negative view of Israel or don't

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Speaker 10: want to send them more money, that would, I would imagine,

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Speaker 10: be the position that would be as unifying as possible,

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Speaker 10: because it appears like this is kind of a consensus

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Speaker 10: opinion now within the Democratic base.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I hear that it's reflective in polls, and

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Speaker 12: reading polls and asserting how campaign should be run based

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Speaker 12: off of polls is not a way that you win

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Speaker 12: in a state like ours.

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Speaker 6: Well, I hear that, I hear the vision.

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Speaker 7: She's so so acting, and you just get from her

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Speaker 7: that she's artificial. I'm sorry, I'm really going in on

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Speaker 7: Mellie mcmaurrow. I can't stand her, But it's more that

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Speaker 7: I can't stand.

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Speaker 4: The cat drives you crazy because it's.

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Speaker 6: The consultant class.

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Speaker 7: I was going to say, like, what drives me crazier

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Speaker 7: than mcmorro is that the consultant class looks at that

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Speaker 7: and says, this is what we'll connect with normal people

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Speaker 7: in Michigan. This is how we make our democratic agenda

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Speaker 7: look palatable to people in Michigan. She's inauthentically Michigan. It's

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Speaker 7: just I'm not from Michigan, from Wisconsin, so I don't give.

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Speaker 6: Like I'm not I can't speak for Michigan.

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Speaker 7: But it's just like, come on, like it just drives

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Speaker 7: me crazy because it's like that we're ten plus years

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Speaker 7: in the Trump phenomenon and that's what they're coming up

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Speaker 7: with and thinking that.

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Speaker 6: It's going to work.

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Speaker 3: You know, ironically, it may have if not for el

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Speaker 3: said running to running to her left, because Haley Stevens

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Speaker 3: running in the establishment lane was such a and is

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Speaker 3: such a flawed candidate that she would have I think

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Speaker 3: been a lot more appealing compared to Compared to Stevens.

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Speaker 7: At least she sounds like she's from Michigan, and Abdul

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Speaker 7: I think comes across as much more of like a

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Speaker 7: Michigander too, Like he just seems to be much more

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Speaker 7: fluent in Michigan than.

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Speaker 3: And mcmorroe had the endorsement of Elizabeth Warren and kind

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Speaker 3: of ran in that Elizabeth Warren lane, and it'll be

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Speaker 3: very interesting to see what Warren does. She's much closer

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Speaker 3: obviously to el Sid's politics, so she goes out with

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Speaker 3: AOC and Bernie and campaigns that could be that could

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Speaker 3: be decisive. There's this there's been a lot of pressure

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Speaker 3: on McMorrow to drop out and endorse Stevens, to try

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Speaker 3: to stop Elside from everything.

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Speaker 4: We gather. McMorrow is no fan of Hailey Stevens, so

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Speaker 4: if she.

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Speaker 3: Does that, it will be as a favor to the

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Speaker 3: party establishment with the party bosses, not because she herself

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Speaker 3: kind is a huge fan of Haley Stevens. There was

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Speaker 3: a Politico report that Elside immediately called McMorrow thanked her

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Speaker 3: for running because now everybody's going to be trying to

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Speaker 3: court her and her supporters, but that Stevens didn't well

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Speaker 3: until the Politico reached out.

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Speaker 6: As soon as Politico reached out, that's what happened. Let's

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Speaker 6: skip ahead to D five.

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Speaker 7: This is from prem Thacker, who posted from Zteo, who

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Speaker 7: posted Haley Stevens makes no outreach to Malory McMorris supporters,

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Speaker 7: while Abdul el said explicitly welcomes them to his movement.

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Speaker 6: Put out a press release right away.

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Speaker 7: The El said campaign and said, throughout this campaign, Center

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Speaker 7: MCMA showed what it looks like to fight back against

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Speaker 7: the politics that rigs the system against too many of us.

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Speaker 7: While we have policy disagreements, I never questioned whether Senator

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Speaker 7: mcmorro would fight for a better America for my daughters

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Speaker 7: and hers goes on to say, welcome her supporters to

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Speaker 7: our movement and stand up again to stand up against

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Speaker 7: money in politics. Finally, a couple other things we wanted

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Speaker 7: to mention here, the polling and the ad spending. This

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Speaker 7: is according to Ad Impact Politics AD reservations as of

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Speaker 7: July first three hundred and I'm sorry, thirty four point

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Speaker 7: four million reserve for Haley Stevens, eight point nine million

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Speaker 7: reserve for Malar McMorrow, two point eight million reserved for

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Speaker 7: Abdul l Sayed. And then finally, the Real Clear Politics

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Speaker 7: average as of yesterday we can pop up on the screen.

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Speaker 6: This is for the al Saied campaign.

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Speaker 7: I mean they were at thirty five point zero in

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Speaker 7: a three way race between Stevens, who was at twenty

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Speaker 7: nine point seven, and mcmarrow who was only at seven

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Speaker 7: point seven. So where that seven point seven goes that

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Speaker 7: is obviously determinative because if it all goes to one

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Speaker 7: or the other, if it goes to Stevens, you're basically

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Speaker 7: in a tie. And if it goes to el sayed,

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Speaker 7: the race is totally different. And he's a really really

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Speaker 7: comfortable lead. He's up five point three points in the

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Speaker 7: RCP average right now, and recent polling is all from June,

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Speaker 7: so it's not like it's sparse like that's a pretty

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Speaker 7: good indication of where the voters are.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, what's let's not leave without identifying

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Speaker 3: the wild thing that happened in this race that you're

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Speaker 3: probably not going to hear about from like CNN or

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Speaker 3: the New York Times as they cover this development. But

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Speaker 3: if you watched it in real time, you saw it happen.

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Speaker 3: And that was that. In March, the mcmorroll campaign decided,

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Speaker 3: and the Stevens campaign as well, but mcmorroll really taking

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Speaker 3: the lead on it, decided to make son Piker Yes

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Speaker 3: a major part of the campaign, as Abdul said had

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Speaker 3: said he was going to campaign with with Piker, the

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Speaker 3: twitch twitch leftist twitch streamer, and mcmorroll comes out and

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Speaker 3: slams him and says compared a son Piker to Nick

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Speaker 3: Fuentes that that was what mcmorroe did.

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Speaker 7: And in a state, by the way, where you're running

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Speaker 7: in a primary, a Democratic primary, which means you have

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Speaker 7: to have grassroots and young voters. It's a state with

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Speaker 7: a bunch of young Muslims that are involved in the

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Speaker 7: grassroots at the Democratic primary level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And at the time that she did this, the race

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Speaker 3: had been pretty stable for months, and that was Stevens

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Speaker 3: with a slight lead over McMorrow, and then Elsayad a

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Speaker 3: couple of points behind. They were all in the twenties,

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Speaker 3: but with Stevens in the lead. And as the weeks

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Speaker 3: go by and the major focus of the race becomes

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Speaker 3: this question of Hassan Piker, which then evolves into the

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Speaker 3: question of where the different candidates stand on the question

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Speaker 3: of arming Israel and whether or not they're willing to

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Speaker 3: call out it's genocide, it begins to become apparent to

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Speaker 3: voters what's going on here, and that Elsaiad is the

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Speaker 3: progressive left laying candidate. Like it really cemented that idea

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Speaker 3: in people's minds, and McMorrow by comparing some Hassan Piker

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Speaker 3: t Fuentes, came off as cynical and dishonest because nobody,

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Speaker 3: like nobody who knows anything about the two of them

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Speaker 3: thinks that there's any similarity between them other than they're

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Speaker 3: both critical of Israel. Nick this is an outspoken white

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Speaker 3: supremacist or white nationalist or whatever he says.

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Speaker 4: He is supremacist, whatever. He's not a Bier.

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Speaker 3: He's a completely different political animal on the far right.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 3: It destroyed her campaign like that alone. Third Way went

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Speaker 3: to the New York Times and they made this like

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Speaker 3: third Way is this corporate centrist group saying that that

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Speaker 3: the tent needs to be drawn such that Hassan Piker

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Speaker 3: is out of the tent. And they launched this campaign

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Speaker 3: with the New York Times and CNN and all these others.

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Speaker 3: Jake Tapper doing programming a program about it, Fox News

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Speaker 3: covering it every single day, and the lines were drawn

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Speaker 3: and it's mcmorro that was pushed out of it because

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Speaker 3: people were pushed on the question, and when they weren't

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Speaker 3: pushed on the question, well, and.

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Speaker 7: Hailey Stephens is already in the race, like, you're not

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Speaker 7: going to out Haley Stevens. Haley Stevens, that's impossible.

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Speaker 3: And mcmorroe had the strategy going in that she was

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Speaker 3: going to try to keep and it's kind of it's

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Speaker 3: messed up how you have to strategize around a pack.

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Speaker 3: But her goal was not to win APAX support because

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Speaker 3: she knew that wouldn't be possible because Stevens had beaten

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Speaker 3: Andy Levin with millions of dollars in APAC support. She

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Speaker 3: was clearly APAX candidate in a previous race, so it

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Speaker 3: was very unlikely that mcmorroe was going to become APAX candidate.

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Speaker 3: But what she wanted to do is persuade APAC to

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Speaker 3: stay out of.

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Speaker 4: The of the race.

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Speaker 3: Just let us fight this out and then we'll see

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Speaker 3: you in the general see you in the general election.

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Speaker 3: To that end, and this is where dropsite played a

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Speaker 3: role in this election. To that end, one of her

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Speaker 3: top supporters on a donor call said that mcmorroe had

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Speaker 3: submitted an excellent APACK paper because policy position paper, I

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Speaker 3: suspect he misspoke and he meant DMFI, which is Democratic

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Speaker 3: Majority for Israel, which is kind of an APAC offshoot.

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Speaker 4: Either way.

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Speaker 3: So mcmorroll produced this secret Israel policy paper in an

665
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: attempt to keep APACKED out That kept coming up throughout

666
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: the race with people saying this also appears cynical, like

667
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: what do you not what's in that paper? Release the paper?

668
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: What are you not telling us about your actual position.

669
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: Daniel Biss, who won his race against kat In and

670
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: against an APAC candidate in Chicago, he also got hit

671
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: because he met with APAC trying to keep them out.

672
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: Wasn't trying to win their support, and wasn't bending to

673
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: everything they wanted, but he met with them just to

674
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: try to because he met, he was meeting with everybody.

675
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: He said after the race, if he had to do ever,

676
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: to do over again, and his advice to other candidates

677
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: do not ever meet with them because it's just politically

678
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: too toxic even to take the meeting. And mcmorro I

679
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: think found that out if she had not done that

680
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: secret policy paper and if her donor hadn't, because what

681
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: good is it if you can't tell people about it?

682
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: So she the donor kind of told other donors about

683
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: it on this off the record call, but then they

684
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: got that got leaked. Is that really? So that really

685
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: screwed her. So it's an amazing own goal on the

686
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: part of Third Way. Who thought they were going to

687
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: make Hassan Piker the center of this campaign. They succeeded,

688
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: and they blew themselves.

689
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 7: Up totally embarrassing, and it's just missing misreading where the

690
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 7: electorate is. And I just like a ridiculous way. It's

691
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 7: not that hard anymore, honestly, Like it's I think of

692
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 7: McMorrow as the type of candidate that ten years ago

693
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 7: actually might have been a slam dunk, or twenty years

694
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 7: ago it might have been a slam dunk. But even

695
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 7: he Stevens in this like new media environment, she's out

696
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 7: there just like riffing and saying the craziest shit ever

697
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 7: in a way that does feel a lot less stage

698
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 7: managed than McMorrow And Abdullah Sayad feels a lot less

699
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 7: stage managed too, Like he goes on Fox News and

700
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 7: answers tough questions.

701
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 6: He like he just comes across as a normal guy.

702
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 7: He knows how to talk on podcasts and just have

703
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 7: a like authentic, genuine conversation where you don't think he's

704
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: reciting talking points.

705
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 6: Same thing with.

706
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 7: Haley Stevens as like crazy as Hailey Stevens is she's out,

707
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 7: they're like riffing about how she dreams about Israel, like

708
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 7: she's just talking haunt and mcmorrow's the type of candidate

709
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 7: who would never she's like so risk averse.

710
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 6: She can't do either of those things. So it's just

711
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 6: was an impossible lane with all three of them in

712
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 6: the race.

713
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate because I think like there is something

714
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: likable and like there's some inherent talent behind McMorrow if

715
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: she would have been unleashed, like you know, if she

716
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: would have just been able to be herself. But she

717
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: was trying to calibrate this goldilocks thing of not the

718
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 3: establishment candidate, but I'm also not the right the super

719
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: far left it and it didn't allow her to It

720
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: made her just constantly be measuring everything that she was

721
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: saying exactly, and that that turned out to be too

722
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: difficult once she kind of deliberately polarized the race around Israel,

723
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: which was a huge mistake.

724
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 6: Huge mistake.

725
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 7: Well, we'll obviously continue to cover that race the primaries.

726
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 7: I believe August fourth ground, right.

727
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, And now, like Olside's supporters are pretty

728
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: confident at this point, but you know, there's millions and

729
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: millions and millions of dollars coming in for Stevens. This

730
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: race is not over like she could if the polls

731
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: showed that about half, maybe of Steve of mcmorroe's remaining

732
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: support could go to Stevens. So if outside can pick

733
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: up that other half and he's a really good position.

734
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: We'll see.

735
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 7: All right, Well, let's talk about the huge This is

736
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 7: the huge conflict roiling FIFA at the moment and has

737
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 7: the United.

738
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 6: States very excited.

739
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: Valerian Ballagan will play for the United States tonight against Belgium.

740
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: After an intervention by President Donald Trump, the undisputed winner

741
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: of the FIFA Peace Prize. She made a call to

742
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: the head of FIFA and said, hey, look, we just

743
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: want you go ahead and look into this red card situation.

744
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 6: He made some peace, he made the peace.

745
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: He's again, he's a peace maker.

746
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: So Donald Trump, thanking FIFA for help for getting flowback

747
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: onto the field.

748
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: We can put up E two here.

749
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: Thank you to FIFA for doing what was right and

750
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: reversing a great injustice, President Donald J.

751
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: Trump. So basically what happened is the US is striker.

752
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: Landed his foot accidentally landed on somebody else's ankle and

753
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: they gave him a red card for it, which, you know,

754
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: things happen, and when you get a red card, you

755
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 3: are then automatically suspended for the next game as well.

756
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 3: FIFA has the authority under an article something something something

757
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: to suspend the suspension. And according to all of the

758
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: different reporting that we.

759
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 6: Have, it was a heavily disputed call.

760
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: Disputed call, and you know heavily it can like you're

761
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: going for the ball.

762
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: It can happen. Yeah, things can happen. Yeah, you know,

763
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: your red card.

764
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: Leg finds another man's leg.

765
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: The legs are moving fast. Apparently.

766
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: One thing that the Trump administration protested was the use

767
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: of super slow motion replay on the doling out of

768
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: these red cards, because it is true that it always

769
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: looks worse, almost always looks worse in slow motion. It's like, oh,

770
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: look he's aiming right for the ankle, and ooh, that

771
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: looks like it really hurt. And unlike almost every other

772
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: tackle in soccer where the guy's faking being heard, yeah,

773
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: that one looked like it actually did heart.

774
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. But also you know, it's let the boys play.

775
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: So this is the Trump for once using his powers

776
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: of corruption for the country.

777
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 6: Well, you were pointing.

778
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 7: Out earlier in the show that actually this is Americans

779
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 7: arriving on the soccer scene. We have learned how to

780
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 7: play soccer correctly, just that.

781
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 4: You bribe the FEVA.

782
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 6: Well, let's put.

783
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 7: Let's put the first element up on the screen. This

784
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 7: is confirmation that this Ben Jacobs, not the political reporter

785
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 7: Ben Jacobs.

786
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, different. Ben Jacobs confirmed.

787
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 7: The White House made a direct call to FIFA to

788
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 7: ask Gianni and Fantino to review Valigan's red card. FIFA

789
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 7: approach for comment referred to the findings of its independent committee.

790
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 7: FIFA sources insist white House influence could not affect the

791
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 7: decision due to the powers contained in Article twenty seven

792
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 7: and the independent nature of the disciplinary panel.

793
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 6: But obviously the White House did take a call.

794
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 7: Trump has very carefully not taken credit, you notice, than

795
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 7: the true social He.

796
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 6: Didn't say anything.

797
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 7: He just thanked them for making the right decision. Now

798
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 7: we can also put this Klay Travis post up. This

799
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 7: is the third element. According to Clay Travis, he's conservative

800
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 7: sports journalist. He says President Trump, Commerce Secretary Lutnik and

801
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 7: White House Task Force head Andrew Giuliani. He is the

802
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 7: son of Rudy Giuliani put together a team of elite

803
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 7: lawyers from outside the government to challenge the Balligan red cards. Specifically,

804
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 7: they challenged the use of slow motion, as Ryan mentioned,

805
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 7: incidant replay to give the red card, which they argued

806
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 7: violated FIFA rules. The President also conveyed to Gianni Infantino

807
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 7: that the appeal had been filed and he believed the

808
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 7: red card penalty was excessive. FIFA's Independent Committee reviewed the

809
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 7: decision and agreed the penalty was incorrectly.

810
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 6: Given, rescinding it under their Rule twenty seven authority.

811
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 7: Now, Brent, I think you can actually make an argument

812
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 7: that all makes sense right, that it was a bad

813
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 7: call and that the suspension.

814
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: Of course, we can make that case.

815
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 6: Now.

816
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 7: Don't tell me that any other country would refuse to

817
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 7: use this power in the World Cup. If any other

818
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 7: country had this level of sway, they had the FIFA

819
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 7: Peace Prize winner in the Oval Office in their version

820
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 7: of the Oval Office.

821
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 6: You're telling me they don't make this call. I don't

822
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 6: buy it.

823
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 7: Now we should mention that Belgium is appealing. So the

824
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 7: CNBC headline from yesterday Belgium set to appeal as PIFA

825
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 7: reverses Baligan's World Cup suspension after Trump reportedly intervenes. So

826
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 7: Belgians are furious. No surprise there at BBC. When I

827
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 7: checked their website this morning, they were leading with the

828
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 7: headline that was integrity of game at stake over FIFA

829
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 7: Balligan decision UEFA. So they're reporting that Baligan, who was

830
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 7: sent off against the Bosnia Herzegovinia, should have had a

831
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 7: suspension for the last sixteen tie against Belgium, but FIFA offered,

832
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 7: not opted not to enforce that. FA said that this

833
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 7: is the European Soccer League said that our authority said

834
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 7: that intervening to effective cancel suspension at a tournament quote

835
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 7: crossed a red line and the idea.

836
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 3: That FIFA has any integrity to be challenged amazing.

837
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 4: Get out of here, stop it.

838
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: You don't have any So Emily has been doing more

839
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 3: social media and so she did a direct to camera

840
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: reaction to this ruling when it first came out.

841
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: Let's put up four.

842
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 6: Corruption is not bad.

843
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 7: Corruption is only bad if I'm not involved, Yes, but

844
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 7: if I'm part of that corruption.

845
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 6: I defend it.

846
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 4: We are all that.

847
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 6: Guy, How did you get that video of me?

848
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: We are all emily, I mean, and I think this

849
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: is how where Europeans going to learn something about Americans. Like,

850
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: we like to win, and we don't. Many of us

851
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: do not like our president. We also don't like the

852
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 3: stupid rules that this stupid game has, and we are

853
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: I think repulsed by Belgium's anger at this. Like it's okay, fine,

854
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: Trump used his power illegally to get the American's best

855
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: player back in.

856
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: But that's not your business.

857
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Your job is to go out on the field and

858
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: beat our best team that we can put out on

859
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 3: the field. You're supposed to want to beat our best players.

860
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 6: That's a good point. That's a good point.

861
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 4: It's us.

862
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 6: How could you be so intimidated by us.

863
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 7: We're in the United States playing soccer.

864
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 6: You're fine, and.

865
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: You can beat our best players.

866
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 7: Hey, yes, yes, but you're right win with the best

867
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 7: players and not on this what was obviously a very

868
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 7: questionable red card call to begin with.

869
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: So but all these stupid red card calls are pretty questionable.

870
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: The whole the whole thing.

871
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 7: Brian's getting dangerously close to say, play football like a man.

872
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: The whole sport is just a little bit ridiculous. By

873
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: how much it hinges on these on all of this

874
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: stuff and then the penalty.

875
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: Kicks and off side like it's just dumb. But whatever.

876
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: This is the US playing the game of soccer how

877
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: it's always been played. And now we're now we're actually

878
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: getting involved in the corruption, and so we are we're

879
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: going to we're going to defend this corruption. And so

880
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: the game will be tonight at what nine o'clock, eight

881
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: eight o'clock against against Belgium. And also we had to

882
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 3: beat two teams at once Bosnia.

883
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: To get there.

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Speaker 3: You're right, and you're going to say that it's not fair.

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Speaker 4: That's twenty two players against eleven.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but every other country, both Bosnia and Herskovinia, would.

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Speaker 6: Be using this power if they had it at their disposal.

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Speaker 6: Everyone would be using this power.

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Speaker 7: Trump, by the way, this morning on True Social put

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Speaker 7: out a very random post where he said Harry Kane

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Speaker 7: of England is a great player.

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Speaker 6: That's all he said.

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Speaker 7: Amazing actually early this morning, so like to eleven oh

894
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Speaker 7: eight pm last night.

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Speaker 3: Actually also real quickly do people know and people who

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Speaker 3: aren't following this might not know Balligan's story. You know

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Speaker 3: how it intersects people who don't know it. His Nigerian

898
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: family was like visiting the United States and they were

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Speaker 3: on their way to London, but she was so pregnant

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Speaker 3: that the airline wouldn't let her get on the plane,

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Speaker 3: and so she had flow here in the United States,

902
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Speaker 3: and then once they were able to fly again, they

903
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Speaker 3: went back. And he grew up in the UK and

904
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Speaker 3: as a boys under seventeen always played with the UK.

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Speaker 3: But he has said that Americans, as they were getting

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Speaker 3: more and more into soccer, would constantly be kind of

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Speaker 3: in his mentions and comments, saying well, why don't you

908
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Speaker 3: play for us? Why don't you play for us rather

909
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Speaker 3: than the English team? And because he had their birthright citizenship,

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Speaker 3: he was able to do that. And also he's able

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Speaker 3: to start because we're not as good as England.

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Speaker 4: So it's not just that.

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Speaker 3: He loves loves being on the field, and now we

914
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Speaker 3: have a president who's willing to fight for him and

915
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Speaker 3: get him back on the field. Meanwhile, Wild when it

916
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Speaker 3: went down in Mexico and put up e five here,

917
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Speaker 3: so this is these are Mexican fans outside of the

918
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Speaker 3: English players hotel, having having an all night party, setting

919
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: off setting off fireworks, playing music rather crass ley. I

920
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Speaker 3: guess we could all say trying to keep the English

921
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Speaker 3: team awake didn't work. Oh, I mean it might have worked.

922
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Speaker 3: Maybe they were pretty tired, but they beat Mexico last

923
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Speaker 3: night and then also Norway knocked off Brazil yesterday. I

924
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: don't know if you watched this game, watch it, but

925
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Speaker 3: the most Viking looking guy ever Norwegian scored two goals,

926
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Speaker 3: just this.

927
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Speaker 4: Absolute Norwegian specimen.

928
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Speaker 3: You're like, that's comical, like that, that's what the North

929
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Speaker 3: Eachan guy looks like.

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Speaker 6: I was reading.

931
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Speaker 3: He's like a foot taller than the Brazilians and his

932
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Speaker 3: first header is just so nasty. Yeah, and his second

933
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Speaker 3: goal where he just blasts it into the corner like

934
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: it's brutal.

935
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Speaker 6: It's a brutal way to lose.

936
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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 7: I was reading an essay recently that said soccer actually

938
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Speaker 7: is the highest upset rate of Americans, like if you

939
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Speaker 7: compare it with baseball and American football, which has the

940
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Speaker 7: highest upset.

941
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Speaker 3: Rate, which I think is the knock on it from

942
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Speaker 3: Americans perspective, because it's like there's so much chance involved

943
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: and you can be dominating, dominating, dominating, and then then

944
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: you just get one run going the other end and both.

945
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Speaker 4: So it's a tough one for Americans.

946
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Speaker 7: But but the argument is that makes it fun to watch.

947
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Speaker 6: That's the argument.

948
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, we need more commercial breaks like it.

949
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Speaker 3: I think Americans feel uncomfortable if like there's live action

950
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: for ten minutes and we haven't heard from like Buffalo

951
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 3: Wild Wings telling us.

952
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: About the new special for the new specials.

953
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: And so for the first time ever, FIFA added these

954
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: fake water breaks so that we can ever a so

955
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: that Buffalo Wild Wings can We're like, okay, now we

956
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: now we now we feel centered and grounded.

957
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 6: Should I buy the bud light?

958
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 7: And then you know, yeah, and then someone tells us yes,

959
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 7: and producer Mattress adds finally before we go that it

960
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 7: is against FIFA's own rules to use slow motion on

961
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Speaker 7: red cards.

962
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Speaker 6: Just the final point tie this all together.

963
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 4: Well did they maybe they did? Well, yeah, that's true, producer.

964
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Speaker 3: See, everyone everyone in America, left to right, left, center

965
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: and right is going to defend the corruption.

966
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Speaker 7: We don't call him good soccer guy. We call him

967
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 7: good politic guy. Check out that channel, all right, that's going.

968
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Speaker 6: To do it for us.

969
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Speaker 7: On today's edition of Breaking Points. I think I think

970
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Speaker 7: Sager and Jetty is going to be back and in

971
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Speaker 7: studio tomorrow with you for a bro show.

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Speaker 4: I believe.

973
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Speaker 6: Is that correct?

974
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: Us?

975
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Speaker 6: A bro show all week? Is that correct?

976
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: If soccer keeps showing up?

977
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Speaker 7: Oh well, Tuesday, Thursday Bro show, that's right, that's right, Okay, well,

978
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Speaker 7: all right, fingers cross for a bro show tomorrow. Fingers Cross.

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980
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981
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