WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Exorcism Works

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Chuck here for my weekly Stuff you Should

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<v Speaker 1>Know selects pick and this week I'm going with January

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<v Speaker 1>six through thousand nine, two thousand nine Exorcism How Exorcism Works.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sort of just tagging this on because in

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<v Speaker 1>real time, it's right around Halloween, and I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>Exorcism episode was pretty cool and we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>real kind of exorcism. We obviously talked about the movie

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<v Speaker 1>The Exorcist a little bit, but we try to break

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<v Speaker 1>it down into what's really going on there with real

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<v Speaker 1>life exorcism. So enjoy how Exorcism Works. Welcome to Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh. That's Chuck, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is stuff you should know. We're about to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you some stuff you should know, aren't we, Chuck? We

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<v Speaker 1>are you ever intro? Our title like that? I like

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<v Speaker 1>that it's new. I tried it before. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you like it, which institute I had loved it to

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<v Speaker 1>the late and arouse you. Yeah, moving on, Chuck. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of a guy named Philip Kate Dick. Yes? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an author. Correct, he wrote Blade Runner. Correct? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I do Android's dream of electric cheap right, which was

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<v Speaker 1>made into Blade Runner exactly. And he wrote a minority

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<v Speaker 1>report and um a scanner darkly. Some other ones have

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<v Speaker 1>heard him good stuff. Um. And if you can't tell yet,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a science fiction writer. Um. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more notable things of Dick's life, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more one of the more notable aspects of Dick's life

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<v Speaker 1>was that, Um, at one point he became possessed by

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<v Speaker 1>a being, another intelligence. He called it like a super

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<v Speaker 1>alien or something like that. And uh, it basically took

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<v Speaker 1>him over and got his life in order. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a total pill head, loved drink wine, really just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chased friends off. He just wasn't a really pleasant

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<v Speaker 1>soul to be around. And this alien kind of comes

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<v Speaker 1>in and takes him over, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>he's like getting you know, back pay from publishers. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like writing more. He his office is cleaner. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he started wearing ties and just all around. Basically, this

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<v Speaker 1>thing got his life in order. And he wasn't scientology

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<v Speaker 1>or anything no interesting. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he may have been a critic of scientology. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure. Um, but he uh, he was possessed. He

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<v Speaker 1>he believed it till the day he died, that something

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<v Speaker 1>had taken him over and at the very least was

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<v Speaker 1>helping him. I've never heard that. Yes, so, um, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I think is a really good segue into exorcism. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an exorcism that actually benefited somebody. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't exercise, and I don't think he needed to. Sure, sure, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think for the most part, when people

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we're inhabited by something, we feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be exercise, right, right, Yeah, the demons running

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<v Speaker 1>through yet exactly so um, we kind of in in

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<v Speaker 1>the Western world in the twenty one century, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really believe in spirit intrusion much anymore, right, some of

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<v Speaker 1>us do, some do, true, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>the average American walking around probably doesn't believe that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to ever be, you know, taken over by a

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<v Speaker 1>demon or something like that, or even an angel probably, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But this isn't the case for much of the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. It's very commonly held spirit intrusion can occur.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when we were talking about carrying a bride

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<v Speaker 1>over the threshold. Spirit intrusion. It can be a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>It can cause a disease, illness, and um, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes you wonder, there's this dividing line that crops up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this really just to misunderstanding of a psychological problem

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<v Speaker 1>or is psychology missing the point when there actually is

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<v Speaker 1>something going on right at ending? A lot of uh,

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<v Speaker 1>demonic possessions are really people that are psychologically distressed or

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes even physically uh. And epilepsy and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times you're mistaken in parts of the world. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>with epilepsy in particular, you can you can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>can throw somebody in an m R I machine and

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the parts of their brain and see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh yeah, this person is definitely epileptic. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course the convulsions often give them away as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, UM schizophrenia, say exactly, for many many eons,

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<v Speaker 1>that was viewed as a spirit intrusion or spirit possession, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes sense. I mean, you know, these people with

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<v Speaker 1>dissociative personality disorder are UM different people at different times,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can understand how that would be mistaken as

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<v Speaker 1>a UM possession. Sure in the past I could, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but still today I kind of wonder is it just

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<v Speaker 1>a clash of world views? You know, maybe so is

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<v Speaker 1>a psychological disorder just another term for spirit possession when

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<v Speaker 1>they're really both talking about the same thing and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter so interesting angle, Thanks buddy. So the point is this,

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<v Speaker 1>UM psychology has its own methods of exorcism any deepressants

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<v Speaker 1>UM psychotherapy. Yes, uh e c T. Electro convulsive therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is still used to this day. Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I think we have the method refined a

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<v Speaker 1>little more than we used to write, but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still they still hook people up at the electrodes and

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<v Speaker 1>juice them. Actually I did know that because it happened

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<v Speaker 1>on six ft Under and don't tell me, don't tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in season three, don't tell it definitely does not

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<v Speaker 1>happen on six Thank you, thank you for that. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But so we've got this method of dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with disturbance UM through psychology. We also have it through spirituality,

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<v Speaker 1>and specifically, the Catholic Church is really really big on exorcism.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the only church that I know if it really

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<v Speaker 1>still practices it. And yeah, I was raised Catholic, and

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<v Speaker 1>and as you get older. Every you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>raised in the Catholic Church, everything seems totally normal. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy is wearing a robe and chanting and burning frankincense,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody else you know is responding with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some weird you know, mystical words. The thing is is like,

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<v Speaker 1>as you get older, it becomes stranger and stranger, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as any Catholic knows, the older you get, the further

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<v Speaker 1>you get away from the church. Right, Um, so you

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<v Speaker 1>get a little more objective, you get an objective view

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I think it's not necessarily true for all people,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly. Uh So, you know, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church objectively or Catholicism, it's deeply rooted in mysticism.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't strike me as odd at all that

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church is still very much believes in exorcism,

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<v Speaker 1>in demonic possession. Yeah, I believe it, which we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably give an actual definition of demonic possession as the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church sees it. Uh while possession or exorcism possession,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well, I know some of the telltale signs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hear about um speaking in tongues a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>just considered No, no, pardon no, no, it's not considered

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<v Speaker 1>part of a demonative. Speaking in tongues is considered a

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<v Speaker 1>an expression of religious ecstasy. Speaking in foreign languages that

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<v Speaker 1>one's never encountered or dead languages. Right, that's that's an example.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually said. I actually said speaking in foreign tongues.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said it very quietly. The foreign was the foreign?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? Silent um? That is true? Uh, knowing things

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<v Speaker 1>that a person has no way of knowing. Yeah, Like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the pope's wearing at any given time.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet he's wearing a robe and a tall hat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I underneath the robe, if you can call that.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine they're going to be like, yeah, I won't

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<v Speaker 1>go too much physical strength beyond what you normally would have,

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<v Speaker 1>which we've addressed as well, right in a violent aversion

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<v Speaker 1>to God, the Virgin Mary or across or other you know,

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<v Speaker 1>religious images. Yeah, so that's you know pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can fit all these, then you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance that you are possessed by the devil. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as the church is concerned. I didn't see in

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<v Speaker 1>here head spinning around or vomiting p soup or the

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Crawl. No, and of course Chuck's referring to the

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<v Speaker 1>classic horror film The Exorcystem, which I watched actually this

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<v Speaker 1>past Halloween. Not as scary as I remember, but psychologically thrilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Great and um after researching this, I found that if

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<v Speaker 1>you take Linda Blair out of the scenes, yes, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just have the exorcism, the rights of exorcism

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<v Speaker 1>that are performed by um Max von Sideau and the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy. Um, it is it's very accurately. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty much the opposite of the website Garfield minus Garfield,

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<v Speaker 1>where if you take Garfield out it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>John is either schizophrenic or a the meat or possessed

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<v Speaker 1>by the devil possibly full circle. Yeah, so it's UM's

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<v Speaker 1>it's the it's the opposite of that. It really a

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic exorcism or right of exorcism is a series of

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<v Speaker 1>special prayers, and actually it's a combination of fairly familiar prayers.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of call and response. Um. There's dousing

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<v Speaker 1>the possessed individual with holy water, using crusifixes and relics,

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<v Speaker 1>which can be anything anything associated with the saint, including

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<v Speaker 1>a body part. There's actually the saints. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>a saint several hundred years ago, you were destined to

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<v Speaker 1>be chopped up and do as many little pieces as

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<v Speaker 1>possible and said to churches around the world. Yeah, relics

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<v Speaker 1>are huge. Interesting. Yeah, well there, you didn't know that either. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before this all happens, there's an investigation. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is when there's a real threat of a possession, you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually lodge in uh a query to the Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>Church and they'll send someone out. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>that priest will come with a psychological evaluator just to

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<v Speaker 1>rule out other things. Sometimes I'll go to a medical doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>but they actually do a full fledged investigation, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think one in five thousand turns out to be

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<v Speaker 1>what they consider to be a real demonic possession or

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least worth worth using an exorcism for

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<v Speaker 1>a Yeah, I didn't want you to to get the

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<v Speaker 1>impression that I think that the Church's approach to exorcism

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<v Speaker 1>it's hokey in anyway. I think they take a very

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<v Speaker 1>methodical approach and they rule out everything else that it

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly be. Um. I think if you decided to

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<v Speaker 1>perpetrate a fraud. Uh, you know, like you're you're possessed

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<v Speaker 1>by the devil. You're in for a really long, painful

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<v Speaker 1>evaluation process where you really have to be committed to

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<v Speaker 1>the bit to follow it through and finally get to

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<v Speaker 1>the exorcism. And if you're basing it on movies, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably be really disappointed. Um. There's this book that this

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<v Speaker 1>guy wrote. I cannot remember his name or the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the book, but he was a sociologist to who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically went to exorcisms performed around the country

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<v Speaker 1>for several years during his research period. And he describes

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<v Speaker 1>one where a guy named Warren, who is basically depressed,

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<v Speaker 1>drinks a lot. Really his life is pretty out of sorts, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's come to believe that he's he's possessed by

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<v Speaker 1>a diabolical presence I think is the the church vernacular

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Um. And basically the priest just praised for him, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's the Holy water and the crucifix

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, and Warren just kind of sits there

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<v Speaker 1>looking a little gloomy the whole time. And then that's

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<v Speaker 1>about that. And apparently in the book, Warren reported feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like something had left him, which is good. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing, is he said, he felt fine, But it

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<v Speaker 1>was a fairly anticlimactic spinning or anything. I had that

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<v Speaker 1>book title if people want to read, it's called American

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<v Speaker 1>Exorcism Expelling Demons in the Land of Plenty by Michael

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<v Speaker 1>uh c u n eo quin Kuno kunio. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>let's go with catch cary cary um. So, yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of anticlimactic, right, But if if at the

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<v Speaker 1>end people like Warren feel like that their their life

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<v Speaker 1>has changed, that, you know, if it's if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>using their faith to maybe manipulate them, even even if

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<v Speaker 1>there's no intentional manipulation. But if that's really what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the most objective view, how could how could

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<v Speaker 1>it hurt? You know? Why? Why don't we just run

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<v Speaker 1>around performing exorcisms all the time? I have an answer

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<v Speaker 1>for you, playing on me sort of, because there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>enough priests relate to go around that are they're capable

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this? The Catholic Church actually UM appointed ten

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<v Speaker 1>priest and I think there was already previously one the

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<v Speaker 1>only guy doing exorcism, So there's now eleven um at

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<v Speaker 1>that time at least and they have a group called

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<v Speaker 1>the International Association of Exorcists. Yeah, they meet every year

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<v Speaker 1>and only newsletter. Do you know what I would do

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<v Speaker 1>to get my hands on that newsletter? Apparently they shared

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<v Speaker 1>tricks of the trade tips for one another fcisms. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to get my hands on that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to sit on one of those meetings. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of a lot of fun, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the the that's one reason why you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't have or the Catholic Church just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the manpower to go around performing exorcism, right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But also there's there's a couple other problems with exorcism

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<v Speaker 1>as far as you know controversy generated by them. One

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<v Speaker 1>is what we've talked about, the the psychology versus religion clash,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been going on pretty much since medicine came

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<v Speaker 1>about um and basically labeled everybody else's witches or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least um simple or what have you,

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<v Speaker 1>archaic primitive. And that's one problem. If if we just

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<v Speaker 1>ran around performing exorcisms, uh, and there were people who

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<v Speaker 1>had very treatable psychological disorders, you know, would the exorcisms

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<v Speaker 1>work or would would pharmaceuticals be better or some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, immersive therapy be better for him? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so we could actually do damage, which is why the

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<v Speaker 1>church I imagine, has psychological evaluations done. And these are

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<v Speaker 1>done by professionals from my understanding as well, It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like the priest is like, hey, are you crazy? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they get a psychiatrist or psychologist outside of the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 1>The the other problem is the there there are groups

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<v Speaker 1>that that do x orcisms for profit. Yeah, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is where it gets a little uh, I don't know, greedy,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly fake. Maybe there's one. There's one group, um that

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<v Speaker 1>is well known for their exorcisms. There's a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Larson, Bob Larson Ministries. He actually has a show

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<v Speaker 1>called The Real Exorcist on the Sci Fi channel. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>That should be your first clicker right there, exactly he Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He runs the Spiritual Freedom Church as far as I know, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does exorcisms. I don't know that he actually

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<v Speaker 1>charges for exorcisms, but I think he's he's really good

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<v Speaker 1>at um drumming up donations. Well yeah, and he and

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<v Speaker 1>he does this in front of a crowd, and he

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<v Speaker 1>charges for tickets. Does he really, Yeah, because apparently you

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<v Speaker 1>can get a family rate on your tickets to go

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<v Speaker 1>see these exorcisms. Okay, it gives you a break if

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<v Speaker 1>you bring the kids along. Well, I was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading on the Spiritual Freedom Church website a testimonial from

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<v Speaker 1>a girl from named Autumn, from my dear esteemed hometown

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<v Speaker 1>of Toledo, Ohio. Let's hear it. Apparently the spirit spirit

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<v Speaker 1>for Spiritual Freedom Church rolled through town and held a

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<v Speaker 1>mass you know, exorcism or whatever spectacle, and Um, Autumn,

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out, had been possessed by a several centuries

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<v Speaker 1>old African woman, uh named Mushita. Now Mushta apparently means

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<v Speaker 1>horror and whatever ancient African vernacular this that her name

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. And um, she basically was pretty much into

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<v Speaker 1>committing acts of hord um in you know, uh, reverence

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<v Speaker 1>for an African deity. So she became promiscuous. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>was really Mushita, but it was it was Autumn who

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<v Speaker 1>was running around committing acts of hordem. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>my word, by the way, I actually didn't realize hordam

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<v Speaker 1>was a word until this is very afternoon. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>her right there? That's her she's kind of cute. Yeah. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Autumn goes to see Bob Larson, who exercises the the demons,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently you could see a an immediate change in

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Autumn and she was very grateful. So again we we

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<v Speaker 1>come to this this fine line. As far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>if Autumn is no longer running around being promiscuous, as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, she no longer feels like she's out of

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<v Speaker 1>control with her life, does it matter whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>an exorcism or antidepressants, whether she paid for this or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to Jesus moment and a seeing of the light.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it matter? Now, there's all kinds of ways of

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<v Speaker 1>reaching that moment of clarity. I agree, If you ask me,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. So uh, As far as I'm concerned, to

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<v Speaker 1>each his own, that's our motto. You want to pay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty much keeps us out of hot water. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to pay for your exorcism, there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of places you can do it. Just go on to

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<v Speaker 1>a Google search, and I believe type in exorcist and

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<v Speaker 1>you will find what you're looking for and good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>So stick around because we have a new bit here.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to fill up time as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna call it correction time. Right, it's a good title.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming up right now. Um, So, Chuck, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a correction from one of our listeners. Right, this was

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<v Speaker 1>in from a couple of our podcasts. We mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>famous study in Massachusetts. Let's go to a clip of

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck being wrong. So what they've learned is that there

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<v Speaker 1>was this big study. I know that you love to study,

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<v Speaker 1>the Farmington heart study. I love this study. It's enormous,

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it's sweeping. This is what a study should be like. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's me, and that's my voice. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is not Farmington's. No, it is actually Framingham, not even

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<v Speaker 1>there's no Ton involved, there's no farm It is a frame.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is pointed out by one of our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenna Carpenter rhotas in thank you Glenna for pouring that out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>warn yourself a new Ford focus actually pointing it out. Yeah.

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