1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: This is SWBC Mortgages Cowboys Crosstalk broadcasting live from Dallas, 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Brought to 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: or more on car insurance, and by s WBC Mortgage 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: Customized solutions to help you meet your personal and business goals. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Visit SWBC dot com. Now your host, Shannon Gross, Welcome 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: to the show. It is Wednesday night, and that can 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: only mean one thing. Here on one oh five three, 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the Fan Cowboys Cross Talk is back at it and 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: I am super pumped tonight because not only do we 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: have a stellar lineup, my job will be so easy tonight. 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: My hardest job tonight will be cutting you guys off 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: to let you know when we need to go to 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: break Because I mean, you guys all know each other, 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: We were familiar with each other. Nate, you and I 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: do a show with each other. Brought us. I miss you, brother, 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Miss you guys too. Nate Newton and very 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: special guest tonight, George Tigue is joining us for Cowboy's 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Cross I know you're familiar with with Coach Tigue. Nate, 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: you guys uh, played a couple of years together. Yeah, Man, 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: I promise you, I'm gonna hustle tonight. I'm anna hustle 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: to give maximum effort. I promise you. I'll tell you 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: what we drafted. We drafted coach Tigue in Green Bay. Yeah, 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: we're all yeah, Yeah, he made it so good coming 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: out of bound. He was a playmaker. Man, just turn 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: on the table, playmaker right there, George. What have you 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: been up to these days? What's going on with George Tigue? Yeah? 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: So I'm the athletic director at head football coach at 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: John paul A Second High School and Plano been after 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: I retired from the Cowboys. Got in the high school 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: coaching pretty quickly, um after that, and man, it's going 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: on twenty years now, I guess. And yeah, actually been coaching. 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: So uh that's it, man, doing this type of stuff, 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: podcasting it up and enjoying my time at the house 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: and raising these kids you know all of Man, I'm 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: a granddaddy. Can y'all believe? Girl? Boy? But you got 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: no I got one um my son JT. You probably 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: both of y'all sho remember him, um from back when, 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: but he just had a Daughter's my first one. Yeah, 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: Tenseley Tigue. Yeah that's a great name, great name. What 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: do you what do you what do you enjoy most 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: about coaching? Uh? Well, I guess there's two pieces, um. 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: And the first one is the normal clache of being 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: able to you know, influence kids to um, you know, 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: try to make sure they don't make the same mistakes 46 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: I made, uh, first and foremost, Yeah, being in all 47 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: or Actually that was for maybe Nate beat me Domino's 48 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: one time. I don't know you all the time. Yeah, yeah, 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I know. He brought out Big Nines and we were 50 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: playing with Big six, so you know what he was doing. Um. 51 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: But you know the other piece is when you get 52 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: out of the xs and os and you're not playing anymore, 53 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and that's something that you've done, you know, all your life. 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: You just miss it. Miss been on the field. You're 55 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: missing the crowd noise, you miss here in a whistle 56 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: good lord, even learning that even with COVID, you know, 57 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: not being around that weight room and the music and 58 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: just the small talk man. And you know, I think 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: that really drove me into coaching more than anything else, 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: was just the field of still being around the game, 61 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: uh and being able to apply the football knowledge in 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: a different way. Um, you know, after I got out 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: of the league. Well we've got I'm glad you're on 64 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: here because we need to discuss this this d defense. 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: You know what defense? Okay, you brought it up, so George, 66 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: go ahead right, tell us what you what is the 67 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: problem on defense this year? What are you seeing? You're 68 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: getting hard? Right? Like it? I like it all right? 69 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Let go. Uh you know, And I was real optimistic 70 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: at the beginning. I'll say that I've really thought that 71 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: were the defense was going to be our strength, just 72 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: because of our makeup, the personality, the talents um that 73 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: we had. I still was always a little bit concerned 74 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: about the secondary just because but I thought it was 75 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: going to be better. Um initially having haha here and 76 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, getting digs obviously, I just thought it was 77 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of an upgrade. But while 78 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm watching this man and I try to have on 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: a couple of different lens as the fans lens and 80 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: evaluators lends, I guess, um, and I just I feel 81 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: like we got some hustle issues. Maybe that's one. I 82 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: think that talent wise, even when you're evaluating it in 83 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: some spaces. I still think we might can be a 84 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: little bit better. You know, I can chop it all 85 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: up to COVID and not having an offseason and doing 86 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: all this other kind of stuff, but still professional teams. 87 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: And when you see people running out of bounds, not 88 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: tackling literally just running out of bounds or letting people 89 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: cut back on you and go the other way, that 90 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: that's hard for me to imagine that that's you know 91 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: now in your heart that you're just kind of laying 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: it down. You know, there could be some schematic stuff. 93 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I think there has to be. And I don't like 94 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: talking about coaches and things of that nature, but you know, 95 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: when I'm watching people run through the secondary, like right 96 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: pass the guy and he didn't even turn or blink 97 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: an eye, it's I have to think, Okay, what is 98 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: he getting in the classroom? You know what point? Hey, George, 99 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: And I was going to ask you because you were 100 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: always one of those players that at a safety spot, 101 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: always played with your eyes. Do you see some of 102 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: that with what's going on with the Cowboys? With the 103 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: second you talk about running through the secondary and stuff, 104 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: and I'm watching these guys play and there's times where 105 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that they don't always see what's happening 106 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: in from it. And it's not always the rookie guys, 107 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: it's veteran players. Is it is that scheme related or 108 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: is that just you know, with your your your your 109 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: makeup and how you see, how you see the game. 110 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: I think um first and foremost, I think that it 111 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: is in that person that if we can't, especially in 112 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: the secondary a little different up there where Naton those 113 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: guys work because you're closer to action, you don't have 114 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: to have very wide vision. But when you're playing in 115 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: the secondary, man, you got to be able to see 116 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: the field and understand what might be come in your way, 117 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: even you know, pre snap, based upon formation, hash, you know, 118 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: marked down and distance, all those things that we that 119 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: we learned. And then when you see that there's like 120 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: no reaction, I think that, well, maybe we had there's 121 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: some blinders on that you can't process it fast enough. 122 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think there is the 123 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: other element. And again, all I know is the way 124 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: that I was taught by Zim and cleansing print of gas. 125 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: And you know, every coach that I've been around is 126 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: that you watch so much film. That's all you do 127 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: for your living, your life, and regardless of what the 128 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: scheme is, we managed to work on the plays that 129 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: we thought we were gonna see. And you can't tell 130 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: me that we ain't seeing none of this stuff in practice. Well, 131 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: I hope that they're going running through the tendencies, what's 132 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: going on with the coaching style and that kind of stuff. 133 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: And so that makes me then wonder say, okay, well 134 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: what is the formation? What does practice look like? Or 135 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: what has it looked like? Just because it looks like 136 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: there's lack of preparations. Well, the thing that I've noticed 137 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: is I talk about you, I talk about Ken Norton, 138 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: I talk about all these players that I know when 139 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: you saw a certain formation, you would tell the corners 140 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: and other guys you would be like watching this, watch 141 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: for that, watch for this, and then y'all are radley. Man. 142 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: I wonder if any of that is you know, because 143 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: like you said, guys are frozen, especially in the Seattle game. 144 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: What were you seeing that made you freeze like that 145 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: and let guys get behind you? So I wonder, and brodness, 146 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: this is isn't anybody out there saying, okay, man, this 147 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: is all right? Thought right, whatever, watch for this, watch 148 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: for that, Watch for this, a safety in the backs 149 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: of a possible rountree, hey corner. You got to back 150 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: up this. Look for this is you think it's anybody 151 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: out there with that type of knowledge, Well, I tell 152 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: you where I kind of look at this guys, and 153 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys that I know on this 154 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: team that can do that. Have that at Billy Layton 155 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: vandersh not playing I think has really hurt what's going on, 156 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: not only with what's going on on the front end 157 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: of it, but on the back the communication. Kind of 158 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: having everybody on the same page, being able to talk 159 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: to the safeties and say, okay, hey be alert. Shawn 160 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Lee was another guy like that. Sean Lee's one of 161 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: those guys that could look at a formation and think, Okay, 162 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm about to get cracked toss here, or I'm about 163 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: to get screened here, you know. And and it goes 164 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: back to George's point of preparation. Are you seeing the 165 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: right things during the classroom setting onto the field and 166 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: then to the game. And I just don't feel like 167 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: that there's been the communication. And you talk about the 168 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Seattle game, Nate, but was funny about that Seattle game. 169 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: They got Seattle off the field eight of thirteen times 170 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: in that game, you know, and you're like, well, you know, 171 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: if they don't have all those busts, they find a 172 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: way to go to that place and win. I think, so, yeah, 173 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: it's it's troubling to me that there the communication or 174 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: what they're seeing, or the fact that the guys on 175 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: the field just aren't able to execute like they need 176 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: to do well enough. You know. Now, And I'm gonna 177 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: say this right quickly like coastigue as I guess brods 178 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: explain this. If I've lined you up on the center 179 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: and say dominate that center, what, how's the scheme wronged in? Yeah, 180 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: that's that's the problem. That's that's the big, big problem. 181 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: And you know and and and I just you know, 182 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: to me, when you you start talking about you know, 183 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: these defensive tackles, these one techniques, these three techniques. People 184 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: like that. You're like, going, man, and these guys are 185 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, they're up there for Red Don Terry Poe. 186 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: You've made a living being a hard guy to block, 187 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, Nate, you've seen 188 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: it when you are Georgian. You guys watch him. He's 189 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: not being a hard guy to block, you know, And 190 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm pointing him out because and last week, you know 191 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: Galimoor Galimoor was another guy example, and he's a rookie. Yeah, 192 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: so that's that's troubling to me that they're they're not 193 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: as good as they need to be there at the 194 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: defensive tackle spot. So do you guys think any of 195 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: this is and I'm making it probably a whole lot 196 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: more simple than it probably should be, But how much 197 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: of this is weight room and things that we couldn't have, 198 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, um with with the with the divisive tackles. 199 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: It's none at all. It's none, trust me, none at all. 200 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: I'm serious. Because you're three hundred and eighty pounds. Just 201 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: fall on the ground and nobody can move you. That 202 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: has nothing, I promise you, nothing to do with those guys. 203 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: Now maybe at your divin's events, but in the middle 204 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: where everybody is three hundred and twenty plus pounds, it 205 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: has nothing to do. It's line up and dominate your man. Yeah. 206 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: It's a shame though, I mean, and man, I say 207 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: it's a shame, But it was nice that at least 208 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill showed some life this year before he got hurt, 209 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: you know, and all sa if Tristan Hill is your 210 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: best defensive tame and and last week I thought Crawford 211 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: played better. I was waiting for Crawford. And maybe maybe 212 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: it's to your point, George, about the preseason and being 213 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: ready and not having all this. Some of these guys 214 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: are just now their bodies are coming like getting ready 215 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: to go, and you know, we'll see better play because 216 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: I was waiting for it for Crawford. I had defended 217 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: Crawford a lot of times. I thought he was gonna 218 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: be able to help Tank with some of his pass 219 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: rush stuff. Those first four games he wasn't a factor, 220 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: but last week he was. So you know, it's man, 221 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: when the middle of that defense has been you talk 222 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: about the tackles, the linebackers and the safeties, that middle 223 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: of defense has had some problems. Let's talk about should 224 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: they make a move, should they trade for some defensive help. 225 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the offense. Let's talk about Andy Dalton. 226 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot to get through. We're gonna take our 227 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: first break. You are listening to Cowboys Cross Talk on 228 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Dear, it's nineteen oh eight. 229 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: Don't you think we should get electricity? 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Backack to 280 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgages, Cowboys Cross Talk Yeah about broadcasting live from 281 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. We 282 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: are back at the Star in Frisco. I am Shannon Grows, 283 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: sitting right across from my co host on Hanging with 284 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: the Boys, Nate Newton. We're here at the Star Brian 285 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: brought us is holding down at the flagship station one 286 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: oh five three. The fan, the fan, I can finally say, 287 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: the fan. Yes, we didn't get the shows, Nate, we 288 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: got you. Now as a free agent, we could use 289 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: you for some of our shows. I want to tell 290 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: you people, I want to do late night radio from 291 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: like twelve to three in the morning, story time with Nate. Yes, 292 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: We're joined by Nate's former teammate George Teague and hey Nate, 293 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: before we get into this next segment, did you know 294 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: that the s WBC's customized solutions for individuals and businesses 295 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: are just a click away? Wait, we click at I'll 296 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: tell you BUSBC dot com to learn more and start 297 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: your venture adventure by clicking away. Okay, man, I tell 298 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: you what. The outro still messes me up. I have 299 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: anxiety the whole show, trying to get out. You can't 300 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: get that right. I'm starting to get better at the read. 301 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: I started. I learned how to read since last time 302 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: you were on the Show's Louisiana exactly exactly. Okay. The 303 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: question that I see every game on Twitter and social media, 304 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: and I hear people calling into all of the shows after, 305 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, after the game is over, should this team 306 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: trade for defensive help. I want to get yall's opinion, 307 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: or do you just roll with what you have and 308 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: this is what it is. Let me go first. You go, 309 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: get out of the way. Get out of the way. 310 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: I was all about on Terry and I was all 311 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: about Evison Griffin. I really I sold it big. You 312 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: know that. Okay, the returns are not there. I also 313 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: was how on Snacks Harrison, but Seattle got him and 314 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: getting him in shape. Other than that, I don't know 315 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: if it's anybody out there. Because if we fix the 316 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: middle of our defense, I promise you our problems will 317 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: be solved. And I'm gonna turn it over the broadest 318 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: in my man smart ta Okay, um, so I'm gonna 319 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: concur a little bit with um what Nate just said about. 320 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I really don't know who's available. I know there were 321 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: some some of my dB fans are gonna always ask 322 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: about some type of safety, you know, when I bringing 323 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: how Hat back or Earl Thomas or one of those 324 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: kind of things. But I think it's more than just 325 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: a secondary I think we got to show up the 326 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: front the middle of our defense. The linebacker play UM 327 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: and whether that's through communication or leadership, I don't know 328 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: if that person is out there to elevate us up 329 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: in the front six or seven. UM. At this point, 330 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: does that mean you just give up on it? Uh, 331 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: probably not. I think I would like to still try 332 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: to see if we could see if we could do 333 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how many yards are offense 334 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: we give up, or what the average is three hundred 335 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: four hundred yards a game or whatever it is, you know, 336 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: I just it's it's just heartening to see, you know, 337 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: people running through the secondary like that. UM. So I 338 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: feel like we need to at least try to find 339 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: a COMMUNICATORUM that can get us lined up going in 340 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: the right direction. And it shouldn't cost us that much 341 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. So yes to a 342 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: trade in the back end if if there's one that's doable. 343 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: I like what Jerry Jones said that it has to 344 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: make sense that you just can't go spend too much money. 345 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: And I paid a lot of attention to that. I 346 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: knew what he meant when he was talking about Earl 347 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: with that UM. But I think there's some other options 348 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: we should entertain. Yeah, this is one of those deals 349 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: where you remember the Cowboys were kind of struggling along 350 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: and then they make the Amari Cooper trade and everything 351 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: kind of turns around. It went from receiver by committee 352 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: to all of a sudden, well wait, they got a 353 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: legitimate receiver now, and Dak Prescott benefits from that, and 354 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: then the season really turned around that way. I think 355 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: that you have to be open to ideas about, Okay, 356 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: is it going to be player for player, is it 357 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: going to be for draft picks? You know, yeah, it's 358 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: there's the fans out there always looking for the obvious names, 359 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: the Earl Thomas's, the Snacks Harrison's, you know, but there 360 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: are guys that a lot of these teams. When you're 361 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: on the pro side, like I was, you're always studying 362 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: these rosters and you're saying, Okay, who is somebody somebody's 363 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: playing with that they're not getting a lot of reps with, 364 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: or they're not you know, maybe this is a good 365 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: young player if we can maybe flip a one of 366 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: our compensatory threes or something that we have in order 367 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: to make this work. But you know, I think they're 368 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: in a situation right now too where they have probably 369 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: realized that like, we're going to get some guys back 370 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: in the secondary, at corner, We're gonna get the linebackers back. 371 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: Are things at safety? Maybe Wilson playing safety now is 372 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: a better answer for them. But yeah, I think that 373 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I am all for trying to trade and all to 374 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: try and make your team better. They're in a division 375 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: right now where you know, they had the best quarterback 376 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: and now they don't have the best quarterback. So do 377 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: you say, Okay, it's going to come down to the 378 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: defense having to make some stops. You know, Yeah, I do, 379 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: and I do worry about it. But man, with some 380 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: of the guys coming back, maybe this will turn things 381 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: around and not making a trade will will be ultimately 382 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: the right thing for them. Yeah, and Will McClay and Steven, 383 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, the last several years have done a really 384 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: good job at finding guys that you know, either hitting 385 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: on practice squads or sitting on their couch and bringing 386 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: them in. Do you look brought us for them to 387 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: bring in some guys and kind of turn over the 388 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: bottom part of this roster and try some different combinations, 389 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I think it's always a possibility. You know, 390 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hard with this COVID stuff that 391 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: you go in Like the other day, they get the 392 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: quarterback off the Cleveland practice squad and they don't get 393 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: him in the building basically until Sunday, you know. So yeah, 394 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: it's very, very difficult to go out and get players 395 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: because of the way they've cracked down. They've cracked down 396 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: on the number of workouts you could have. I love 397 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: poaching players off other teams, especially if you know, like, Okay, 398 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: we had a good college report about this guy, and 399 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: that's a problem. Again, guys, we had no preseasons, so 400 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: there's no film of a lot of these guys playing. 401 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go off college tape or maybe 402 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: this guy's one or two years in the league that 403 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: you could say, Okay, we'll take this guy on. But 404 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: the COVID stuff. Again, I'm not putting my head in 405 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: the sand and saying you can't do it, but it's 406 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more difficult than it was the 407 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: last several years from what we've done. You know, what 408 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: about they oh yeah, sorry, but what about the days 409 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: when uh, you used to bring in people just for 410 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: the fair factory. Yeah, you know, roll somebody here. You 411 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: might not even want them, Yes, just just seeing some 412 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: defensive box out there running around like, hold on, you 413 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: know what's going on here? Even they here to get 414 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: them three weeks from the day and they roll up. 415 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: This is my problem. Yes, we said last year to 416 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: a man. Okay, if mister Garrett leaves this building a 417 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: culture change with the players that you have up front 418 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: and the lack of uh productivity, you have to do something. 419 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: Should stop fooling ourselves. If the guys up front cannot 420 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: get the job done, how can I teach a young 421 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: guy a Gallimore this is how you play the game. 422 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: When they see guys getting blown five and six yards 423 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: off the ball and and nothing is being done. You 424 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: can't put all that pressure on your offense. That's too much, 425 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, I think though you make some points 426 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: about bringing guys off and on and fear factor stuff. 427 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: You know that that's that's that's understandable. But I also 428 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: feel like though that they're in a situation where they 429 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: they busted on some guys we talked about, you know, 430 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: the po's and you know, and maybe things, maybe things, 431 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: but you know, I do have faith and a guy 432 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: like Crawford, and maybe it's it's blind faith. Maybe I'm thinking, Okay, 433 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: he had the hip surgery. He's coming back, He's gonna 434 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Maybe this is maybe if you get a guy like him. Now, 435 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: if you have Poe or the human log Woods, say, 436 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: Woods is in there playing okay, but then you put 437 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: Crawford in there and he's playing better. You know, maybe 438 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: that will short some things up. I want to believe 439 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: that Crawford is going to get better there. I don't 440 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: know about Poe getting better. I don't know about Gallimore 441 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: getting better right now. I think he's a young guy 442 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: that his head spinn I mean he at Oklahoma he 443 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: was an up the field player. Now he's tall and 444 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: catching blocks and getting turned. You know that that's just 445 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: not the not the way to go about it. But 446 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: hopefully if Woods and maybe Crawford together could kind of 447 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: short some things up. But heck, I don't know if 448 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: they could all play eighty straight plays, you know Woods. 449 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, Woods started playing better, as you said, 450 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: Tyrone became playing better. Last week he played very well. 451 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the health is coming back to him a 452 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: little bit more, the rhythm of the game. His bass 453 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: foundation has come back. But brought us you told me 454 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: as a coach, that We're gonna kind him. Let these 455 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: guys be who they are. If Gallimore is a penetrating 456 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: type guy going to field, okay, we're gonna have to 457 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: let him do that. We're gonna have to let him 458 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: affect the game. Because if you go back and watch film, 459 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just that's just a cliche. We 460 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: all three watch film, we all do. We all watch films, 461 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: and we're seeing the same thing. I'm just a little 462 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: more panicky because now you're asking your office to do 463 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: it all. Control the clock, score eighty five points and 464 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: due to tackling two. That's not fair. That's not fair. Yeah, 465 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: speaking of the offense, let's take our next break. When 466 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: we come back, let's get into the offense. What do 467 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: we think about Andy Dalton, his performance on the second 468 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: half of the game. Let's talk about Cowboys, Cardinals, and 469 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: so many more things. Special guest George Teague, Special semi 470 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: guest Nate Newton, and our old buddy it's been too long, 471 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: Brian brought us. I am Shannon Gross. We will be 472 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: back to Cowboys cross Talk. 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Brian brought us whole 527 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: down at one oh five three the Fans Studios and 528 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: George T coming live somewhere in the metro. Where are 529 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: you at, George, Yeah, I'm in McKinney, Texas many minutes 530 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: get over there. We're all within uh spitting distance of 531 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: each other for a better lack of better term. All right, 532 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: let's get into some more stuff. This is this is 533 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: good conversation. We have so many things to get to 534 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: and only two more segments to get to it. Let's 535 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: get into the quarterback talk. Dak Prescott obviously went down 536 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: in the game. We've spent I believe probably all of 537 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: us have spent too much time talking about that situation 538 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: of what happened, and lord knows, we've all seen that 539 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: replay too many times. Andy Dalton, I believe, and Nate 540 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: you can get into you can get into your forecasting 541 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: before the season started, and how big of a fan 542 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: you were of that signing. I think Andy Dalton is 543 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: the best quarter backup quarterback in the league. I think 544 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: he's He's just as good, if not better than a 545 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: handful of starting quarterbacks that are in the league. Brought 546 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: us will go to you first, then George as a 547 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: dB will go to what what you saw on the 548 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: second half and what you think the outlook is? Brought us, 549 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: what do you what does the tape tell you? The 550 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: few practices I was able to go to in person 551 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: um in training camp, Andy Dalton looked really good. Some 552 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: days he actually looked better than Dak as far as 553 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: arm strength making all the throws. What are you seeing 554 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: on tape? Yeah, this is the Cowboys way of protecting themselves. 555 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: They went out. This is not Cooper Rush. This is 556 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, and and let's be honest, the Dak Prescott 557 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: durability has never ever ever been in a question. Man. 558 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: He just lined up and played down after down after down, 559 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: and you know you have an unfortunate injury right here. 560 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: But this is why you go and you protect yourself. 561 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: You go get Andy Dalton and by the way, the 562 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: best backup quarterbacks at Miami. That's tuh with the Daltons 563 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: down there. But yeah, but to me, this is this 564 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: is why you go do this. I mean and but 565 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: my problem with this right now, and I know we're 566 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: going to get into this is about with the offensive line. 567 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: If you had both the tackles in place, and even 568 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: if you put Beadish at center, you know, I think 569 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton, this is perfect because you got the 570 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: runner of the receivers. The line can help him. And 571 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: this is where Andy Dalton can flourish. But maybe this 572 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: might be too much, Maybe this might be too much 573 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: to ask for him. But I do like the fact 574 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: that he's the backup he's going to start. But I 575 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: say it's a lot better than having a guy like 576 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush here for sure, George, Before Nate's over here clapping, 577 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: he cannot wait to chime into his own horn. George, 578 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: what are your expectations of out of Andy Dalton this 579 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: week and moving forward? You know, I'm I'm optimistic about 580 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: this for a lot of the reasons that brought us said. 581 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he has experience, he's been under the center 582 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: for years now, and he did have some success. I 583 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: do think that he is a great option and force. 584 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Um you know, watching him and that when he did 585 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: come in the game, um, he seemed to be poisoning 586 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: ready to go. Um. You know, I have not seen 587 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: him into practices, but I do know at that during 588 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: that game, I was very glad to see what he 589 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: was doing, where he was putting the ball and how 590 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: he was maneuvering the team UM down the field. So 591 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: I think that I know we're blowing Nate up because 592 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: he just cheesing from ear to ear over here, man 593 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: good lord, I hadn't seen that smile since he had 594 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: lunch with him last time. You can say what you want, 595 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: you crack on the fat guy out down with it. 596 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: This is what I believe is this thing, this offense 597 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: was built for him, and I think when Andy Reeves 598 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: was looking at the guys that were out there, you 599 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: know this was a little semi power play with mister 600 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: Jones and the group. But coach McCarthy saw this guy 601 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: and know this guy the only reason he had didn't 602 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: have success in Cincinnati as they were Cincinnati. He's got 603 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: better receivers overall. Yeah, I'm not gonna say better than 604 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: a J. Greenbup, better receivers overall, better running backs overall. 605 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: The offensive line may be a little bit shaky, but 606 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: ain't none used to coming from from Cincinnati. He'll be 607 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: all right now. The defense has made. His defense may 608 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: be a little bit better, hope the Cincinnati, but this 609 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: is the right team for him and he can show 610 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: the world this dude can spend the rock. Rights, he 611 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: can spreend the rock. You know ya, No, No, he's 612 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: had over thirty one thousand yards of passing. You don't 613 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: do that by accident in this league. And you could 614 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: be he's had success. He's had winning seasons at Cincinnati. 615 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that. I do worry about though, 616 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: And Nate, you can't run from this fact because you 617 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: are an offensive lineman and you understand it. They're not 618 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: good at offensive tackle. They're not and you know, and 619 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: then you have some liability maybe at left guard, you know. 620 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: And so I I do worry if it's if if 621 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: I knew I had all hands on deck for Andy Dalton. 622 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: I think this is a smooth now. He showed the 623 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: other day to come in the huddle and to get 624 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: that win. But I just worry about long term of 625 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: him having Dak is built to play. He proved he 626 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: could play with a sub par offensive line. I don't 627 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: know about Andy Dalton here with with this crew, I'd say, 628 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: let's right here, man, Hey, I love I love you guys. 629 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: But if our defense you could just get two turnovers 630 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: the game, this thing will be well. How about we 631 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over two times a game too? 632 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: That might help our defense. Will spend this thing seventy 633 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: times a game. You better run that ball better. N 634 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: I got a non player question, Yes, sir, if if 635 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: any defense in this league gets two turnovers the game, 636 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: aren't they in pretty good shape? Pretty good if your 637 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: offense doesn't give them too because we give up fifty 638 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: something points after we give up turnovers. All I'm saying 639 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: right here, Fellas, is we have opportunity to do something 640 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: good to turn this around because for the first time 641 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: a long time brought us we have a real backup 642 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: that can come in and spend the rod. Listen, go 643 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: ahead on but you said how much does it have 644 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: to change Nate? Not at all. Offense. You're talking about 645 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: the weaknesses that we have to have up front, you know, 646 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: and if you got a different a little bit, and 647 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: you said the offense was built for him, but if 648 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: you don't have the protection that you needed about how 649 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: about the run block in Nate? How about those tackles, 650 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean the point of attack. I mean, I mean 651 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: you gotta put that on Zeke. It's gonna get a 652 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: little better. I think it's gonna get a little better. 653 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 1: I think that the offensive coordinator has to realized much 654 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: like I saw a lot of times with other quarterbacks. 655 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that Dalton is none of the 656 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks, but you have to get the ball 657 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: out of your hand. He will. You're gonna if you 658 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: get the ball out of hand. Like a week ago 659 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: against Cleveland, two weeks ago, I saw the first sat 660 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: that then have to take that first sat. He didn't 661 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: have to take that first sat. He took it though, 662 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: because he was trying to get a little bit more. 663 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: But sometime you don't have to always take a second. 664 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: Sometime it's better to walk off the field than the 665 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: other end results of what happened if you try to 666 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: stay on the field. So just do what you're supposed 667 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: to do. Get it to the people you're supposed to 668 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: get to Coach Phield, we're gonna have to come up 669 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: with some better to run design. Zone players ain't working 670 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: for us because when you go on the backs. I 671 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: heard you the other day brought us talking about the 672 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: backside scoop. I'm looking at it trying to figure out 673 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: when they're gonna scoop somebody because they're running off leaving 674 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: each other. They gotta learn to take care of the 675 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: down lineman first. They have not learned that. Even my 676 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: right guard, who was an All Pro player, is starting 677 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: to leave his guys. I don't care. Let Zeke deal 678 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: with the linebacker. There's little things that can make you 679 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: just a little bit much, a little bit better. Man. 680 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: I remember people just call me a fan all and 681 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: I'll never be nothing but three super bowls may maybe 682 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: up stay feasted. Would you put would you put Martin 683 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: out at right tackle? Would you play Martin at right tackle? 684 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: If Connor mcgovernment could play, I'm all about that's the 685 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: great mystery. I put his face on a milk cart 686 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: in the other day and you see in case you 687 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: see this guy, please call if conn mcgovernment can play. 688 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: And that is the big question. I've called people all 689 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: over this place. Yeah brought if his kid could play, 690 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: then okay, let's go. Let's go. I'm willing to try 691 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: anything because in a division where you can literally win 692 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: six and a half games and be in the playoffs. 693 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: Come on, man, George, do you think with Andy Dalton 694 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: and at quarterback, they're gonna have to change the offensive 695 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: sk Mike McCarthy has let it, you know, let it 696 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: be known. At the beginning of the year, we're gonna 697 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: throw it all over the field. Catch us right with 698 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: With Andy Dalton, you know he's got the arm strength, 699 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: he can throw the ball. But do they need to 700 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: change the game plan as far as run past mix. 701 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, he's not quite as mobile as Dak. He's 702 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: he's a pocket guy. Would you do you look forward 703 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: for the game plan to change or stay the same? 704 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: H I will say I look forward to it. I 705 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: think it'll adapt or change a little bit. I don't 706 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: think it will be just drastic because we don't have Dak. Yeah, 707 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: there's probably some options. You know that Dak might have 708 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: been running that you're not going to see Andy doing 709 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: UM and things of that nature. But as far as 710 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: being able to read and find the first receiver, second, 711 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: receive a third receiver, I think that he'll be fine 712 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: with that and we don't need to see much of that. 713 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: I think it just goes back into what both broad 714 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: Us in Nate said. If it gets rid of the 715 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: ball on time, it follows the progression and doesn't try 716 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: to force it in any kind of way, I think 717 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. Will they have to maybe try to 718 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: find some protection things or really trying to figure out 719 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 1: how to get this running game going A little zeke 720 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: like a zeke is not good at this point. More power, more, 721 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, gap scheme type of stuff UM might be helpful. 722 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Because that's the type of runner that Zeke is in 723 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: my opinion, anyway, between the tackles that yeah, didn't make 724 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: something happen. So I think I would like to see 725 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: some of that added. But far as a passing game, 726 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: I think we can leave it where it is. Yeah, 727 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to run the ball better. 728 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: I really do. And I don't think the one thing 729 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: that Dak was the great deodorant for how this offensive 730 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: line was. He was he was able to stand in there, 731 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: the mobility to buy the waggles, the boots and stuff. 732 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: You know, maybe they could get Andy Dalton outside the 733 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: pocket and let him make some of those throws those 734 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: you know with the Schultz coming across or throwing a curl, 735 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: throwing the out. You know, he had hecked that throw 736 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: he made the nineteen yard or to gallop along the 737 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: sidelines on the last drive that was outside the pocket. 738 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's what they're gonna have to do. 739 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: But I just i'd like to see them. And I'm 740 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: not gonna trying to be old krusty scout guy here 741 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: and go back to oh, let's just bang our head 742 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: against the wall two yards three or whatever. No, I 743 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: think that though they're gonna have to, they just can't 744 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: totally abandon the run here. They're gonna have to find 745 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: a way, like you guys are talking about, of scheming 746 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: something and then getting Zeke to the second level and 747 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: letting him just kind of you know, they just gotta, 748 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: we always say clicheically, stay ahead of the chains. They've 749 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: got to stay ahead of the chains. For Andy Dalton, 750 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: when he's in rhythm, I think he's gonna be a 751 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: much better player here. I just believe and I know 752 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: that if they let Zeke come downhill and bang up 753 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: a little bit some quick traps, some quick hitting plays, 754 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: they will be all right. I'm telling this offics relying. 755 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: It ain't the greatest. Now the Dallas Cowboys have to 756 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: do like everybody, like twenty six other teams and just 757 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: play with an average puffins relying. Now, it's coaching matters. 758 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: So it's all righty to be the old krusty scout 759 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: broughtest because I'm with you, you know, you mean, I 760 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: can bang your head in this new NFL. But Zeke 761 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: has to catch the ball when thrown to him the 762 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: short swing passes out of the backfield and make something happen. 763 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: Every run is a playoff run. Now for Zeke, let's 764 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: take out a last break. 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Brought 828 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: us what do we need to watch out for for 829 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: these Cardinals? You know, Kyler Murray's coming back, you got 830 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 1: the wily veteran Larry Fitzgerald, you got you know, Hopkins 831 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: on their team. That scares the hell out of me. 832 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 1: What do we need to be worried about the most 833 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: when these Cardinals come to town on Monday? Yeah, I 834 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: think you've kind of covered it all right there with 835 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, with their situation offensively, you know, no Chandler 836 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: Jones for them is a huge loss, you know, but 837 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: this is a team that defensively will get after you 838 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: with their outside linebackers, and so protection will be, you know, 839 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: a key for the Cowboys going forward. I will say 840 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: this offensively though about the Cardinals. I think Cliff Kingsbury 841 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: does a really really nice job of formation. You the 842 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: scheme is good. He plays to Kyler Murray's strength. Uh, 843 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's much like playing Russell Wilson, and you 844 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: have to be very mindful when you rush him of 845 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: where you are on the field. You have to you 846 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: almost have to build in. Rod Murnelli's just talking about 847 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: building this quarterback, like putting a well around him, you know, 848 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's what they really need to do. 849 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: When I watched the tape of Kyler Murray play, the 850 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: sacks that he's suffered is when teams make his feet stop. 851 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's usually a bounce in the pocket, keep active, 852 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: keep moving guy. But when teams have made him freeze 853 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: his feet, he didn't realize it's like, oh, I'm in 854 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: trouble here, and then he'll go down. You can kind 855 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: of capture him that way, shorter guy. The mistakes he 856 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: makes are in the middle of the field too. There's 857 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,439 Speaker 1: sometimes where you're you're a shorter guy, you can't see 858 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: over the top of the rush and then you're throwing 859 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: to a spot in the middle of the field. That's 860 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: where a lot of his turnovers. It's not on the outside, 861 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: it's stuffed down the middle of the field. Build the well, 862 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: kind of keep him in that well and then make 863 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: his feet stop and you got a chance to get 864 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: to him. George defensively for the Cardinals, brought us, brought 865 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: it up. Chandler Jones is out. They've got a pretty 866 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: decent you know, back in with Peterson. If you heard 867 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: that name before, you know, Buddha. Buddha's pretty decent. If 868 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: you're the Cardinals defense, how do you her Patrick's pretty 869 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: good too, Yeah, not a bad guy either. How do 870 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: how do you neutralize these offensive weapons? For the Cowboys? 871 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: You got three outstanding receivers. You got Dalton Schultz has 872 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: shown some some flashes of you know, really great potential. 873 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: You got Zeke Uh, how do you what's your game 874 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: plan if you're the Cardinals, Well, I think the battle 875 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: of our play callers is on. That's that's gonna be interesting. 876 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: Um about this, You know how Mike mccarthur utilizes our 877 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: our offensive talent um to hopefully offset some of what 878 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: may happen may happen to us with the defense because 879 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 1: you know, when you have the weapons that we have, 880 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: and we haven't talked enough about you know, uh Cooper 881 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: and eighty eight, you know Lamb and even I even 882 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: like our the tight in with David Scholtz, you know, 883 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: just being a sneaky play in there in Gallop. I 884 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,439 Speaker 1: mean I feel like we I mean, you gotta see, 885 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: we got enough weapons that we can protect ourselves, um 886 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: and stay ahead of the chains and maybe not necessarily 887 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: have to take them. Um. Big ball all the time. 888 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: Just just the twelve play drive and fifteen play drive 889 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: is gonna be good for us because I am worried 890 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 1: about the big play on the other side of the ball. 891 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how people really realize how fast Kyler 892 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: Murray is. That boy can go, so he can go, um, 893 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: and then you put the Hopkins in there. Man, I'm 894 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: getting nervous just standing over here thinking about what's gonna 895 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: look like. And I want to play. I want to 896 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: play the safeties and playing though we all saw this 897 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 1: kid brought us you me, you coach. We all saw 898 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: this kid in high school. I saw him sat his 899 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: first game against South Lake and they were, they were behind. 900 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: All of a sudden they won. And I don't think 901 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: he lost another game in high school. This kid has 902 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,439 Speaker 1: been legit everywhere he's been. But more to the I'm 903 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna swing over to the defense. I think Vans Shoseph 904 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: has done a good job with that defense. They've only 905 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: given up twenty point four points a game. Granted that 906 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: it is the San Francisco Washington. You know, guy has 907 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: been hurt, but I promise you the whole teams down 908 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: to twenty points on average, it's a pretty good thing 909 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: in this league. Now, I'm not saying he can hold 910 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys down, but they got thirteen to fourteen sacks. 911 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, they got a bunch of guys with two 912 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: two one, So that me everybody's getting out through it. 913 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: So our offensive line is gonna know how. You got 914 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 1: to know who is coming and who is not coming. 915 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: And they run a three four a scheme, a true 916 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: three four A scheme with people moving around, so our 917 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: guys will have to be in that film room ready 918 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: to hustle. And my quarterback, Dalgon was his name, and 919 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: I've been called Amanded Griffin, but anyway, that was it. 920 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 1: Cinin Ed it be ready to get rid of ball, Yeah, 921 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: get ready get rid of ball. To another thing we 922 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: need to watch out for guys too, is Patrick Peterson 923 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: usually will play on the outside, but I've seen him 924 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: go in the slot. Let's see who Arizona determines as 925 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: the biggest weapon for the Cowboys on the outside, and 926 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: that might mean CD does a great job playing in 927 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: the slot. So you know, if Patrick Peterson goes in there, 928 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: they might determine. Fanciosa might say, you know what, We're 929 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 1: not gonna let him beat us in the middle of 930 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: the field with throws. So keep an eye on where 931 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson lines up and over who that is. Who 932 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: is will will digs be lined up on Fitzgerald or 933 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: will it just be determined. Larry Fitzgerald is on a 934 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: pace to have one of his worst seasons of his career. 935 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: Like it's incredible but Larry, Larry never could be able 936 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: to really to run. But what Larry could do is 937 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: make spectacular catches. And all of a sudden, it's like 938 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: he's got seven targets, seven catches, seven first downs. That's 939 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: how Larry Fitzgerald. So his numbers. It really is all 940 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: about the new guy. I mean that the ball going 941 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: down the field, you know, with the one handed catches, 942 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: the contorting of the body. I mean nu, because he's 943 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: a heck of a player for them. I mean that's 944 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 1: a great trade. That they made a great trade. And 945 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 1: so you know they're gonna move him all over the place, 946 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know. I don't know if 947 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna travel. I don't know if Dallas will travel 948 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: with him. We'll just see how they might be. Just 949 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: played the sides. It's just called keep us safety on top, 950 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: keep a lineback underneath, and rabbits to everything else. I 951 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: would treat him like he was a gunner on the 952 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: punt team. I'd put two guys like up on the line, 953 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't let him off the line. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 954 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: You're not. You're not gonna get off the line. I'll okay, 955 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. You can catch a million balls, which you 956 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: have your whole life, but I'm not letting this guy 957 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: over here beat us. George, what so far this season? 958 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: Five games in? What what greade would you give Mike 959 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: mccarth So far? Oh? Oh, the show's striving home right now? Hello? Hello? 960 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: He question George off the zoom call. Uh. You know, um, 961 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: I would say that it's actually gotten better for me 962 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: because at first, you know, I listen to a lot 963 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: of conversations, read a lot of Twitter stuff and all 964 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,919 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff about some of the calls trying 965 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: to be aggressive, trying to make be something different than 966 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: what Jason Garrett was or whatever. And I didn't necessarily 967 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: like that. I thought he was just trying to get 968 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 1: out of character a little bit to try to be different. Um. 969 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: So I wasn't grading him that well. But now with 970 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: these past couple of games, I think he's starting to 971 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: get into a rhythm coaching style. Uh is really sinking 972 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: into the players being more productive, still being creative and 973 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: exciting and all that kind of stuff. Um So, Uh No, 974 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: I do not give him an A. I am probably 975 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: more at about a B minus um right now, um 976 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: because I still think he's trying to figure out, uh one, 977 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 1: how he's going to maneuver his offense and stuff around, 978 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: but also how to motivate these defensive guys and make 979 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: them play for him um as well, because they aren't 980 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: doing that right now. Brought us where are you at 981 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: on the multiplus? Not about D plus? Right? Now you 982 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: say D plus D isn't dog, Okay, yeah, plus Yeah. 983 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: I feel like there's some things defense. I'm you know, 984 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: George was talking about some of the early things going 985 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: for I agreed with it with him about going for 986 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: the fourth down in in Los Angeles. I like that, 987 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: you know. I think there's some of the analytics stuff 988 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 1: he's trying to bring. I think he I think he's 989 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: letting Kellen Moore do the things with the offense, but 990 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: there's other areas they're not need. I don't think they're 991 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: any better on special teams, not at all. And and 992 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: I and I worry about that, you know, and and 993 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: with bones, fossil and stuff. So I'm including all the 994 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: coaches with the D plus. I'm not. You know, they 995 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: can have very well lost the Atlanta game. They didn't 996 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: lose it, but you know, they could have won the 997 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: Seattle game they didn't. You know, you need to find 998 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: a way along the way if you're a Super Bowl 999 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 1: winning coach, and I know you're trying to get your 1000 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: program together and stuff. But this team is two and 1001 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: three and they've had some injuries, and we'll see that 1002 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: grade could very well go up if he finds a 1003 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 1: way to win games, win this division with Andy Dalton, 1004 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: I'll be more than happy to sit here and apologize 1005 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: to him for my D plus grade I just gave 1006 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: him for five weeks. Nate. I'm gonna let you slide 1007 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: on the question because we got about a minute left, 1008 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: and I want to know your thoughts on who's gonna 1009 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: win the game. So I'm gonna give you a pass. Okay, 1010 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 1: But but I had an Na gonna pick the Cowboys. 1011 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: She had it. Come on, how many years you guys 1012 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: worked together? Not available? Na? Na? Yeah? Catch him all 1013 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: the way home. He'll tell you. He'll give him a 1014 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: D minus. All right, about a minute left, Nate, do 1015 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys win Monday Night against the Gardenals in a 1016 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 1: big way, in the explosive way. They're gonna take over 1017 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: the game. They're gonna get two turnovers, and we'll barely 1018 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: win this thing by half point. I picked him all year. 1019 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 1: I've been to have to go against him this week. 1020 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: I just think Kyler Murray's guts to be too much 1021 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 1: explosion in this game for him. George, Yeah, I'm taking 1022 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Uh to wind got all this Cowboys stuff? 1023 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: Come on, he's smart, he's far you asked me to 1024 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: be honest about let's sec guys know what's going on. 1025 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for John. This was awesome rowdest. It's good to 1026 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 1: hang out with you again. George, thank you for being 1027 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: our guests. We'll be back next week. This is Cowboys 1028 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: Cross Talk on the Cowboys Radio Network.