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Speaker 1: things than you do just being happy and smiling and

429
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: letting certain things rub off your shoulder. You know, especially

430
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: in this day and age, it's hard to let things

431
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: rub off your shoulder. But like in the grand scheme

432
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: of things, when you think about it doesn't really matter,

433
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean if you

434
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: look at it that way, in the moment when it happens,

435
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: it seems devastating. I you mentioned your father. Can we

436
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: talk about that if you don't want to, it's fine, okay, good,

437
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm almost done with my therapy session, so we're

438
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: all right. Good. I like it because this is help

439
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: with me. It's therapy. You talked about how one of

440
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: those defining moments is where your father jumped up in

441
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: the stands and it was like I knew, I told you,

442
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: I told y'all that had to be a beautiful moment

443
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: for you. Talk about that relationship and how you were

444
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: able to cope after you committed suicide. Yeah, was it

445
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: was a great relationship. I think, you know, it was.

446
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: Initially it was a little different for me to kind

447
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: of come around and like I met my father when

448
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: I was seven, Like he came into my life fully

449
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: when I was seven, and it took me a while

450
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: to get to know him and try to like, you know,

451
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: build that rapport with him, and I did. I think

452
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: by the time I, like, you know, mid teen years,

453
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of when we started to see how the

454
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: high excuse me and I started to kind of understand

455
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: the point he was making as a as a father

456
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: and the things that I had to learn as a

457
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: son and as a and as a young man. Um.

458
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: But he taught me the game of football. He talked,

459
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: you know, I never forget him coming to the crib

460
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: and like asking me if I you know, next to

461
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: my mom, asking me if I wanted to play football,

462
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: And I kind of looked up at her and she

463
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: was like, he has me, he asked you, And I

464
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: was like, all right, sure, yeah, Like I would play

465
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: and then I think that was the start of our

466
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: bomb because he taught me the game. He was around.

467
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: He would pick me up every day, my brother and

468
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: I we would go to football practice. He would go

469
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: to the store and feed me and ensure or a

470
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: v A in a banana, which is probably the grossest combination. Again,

471
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: the vanilla enshore and not just before v A splash,

472
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Like there was no v A splash. This is like tomato, juice,

473
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: fam and banana and we have a full practice like

474
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: but combination. Just feel like we needed our nutrients. Inviting men.

475
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't you know he was. But by the way,

476
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: that's something now that I'm a dad, that's absolutely something

477
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: I would do, Like I tell Kennedy, like, yo, just

478
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: I come on some bananas, Like you gotta go practice.

479
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: We need just stomach to be full so you can

480
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: operate at a high you know what I'm saying. But

481
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: my dad was such a legend man, and I think

482
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: I get a lot of this. You know, it's funny

483
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: carry I get a lot of this. You know, yours

484
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: called me bougie um, But I think I get a

485
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: lot of it from him, like he was. For example,

486
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: this is the story of my dad, and you'll get

487
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: exactly little used in a nut show. He had a

488
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: baby blue drop top c OK three twin right driving.

489
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: He was also the dude that had no shirt on,

490
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: hat to the back, sunglasses, Maurice Malone, shorts and Jordan's

491
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: just painting the picture for you. He gets in the car,

492
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: he has the car a couple of months, gets into

493
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: an accident, totals the car. He was okay, thankfully, goes

494
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: to the dealership the next day after he's after he

495
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: told us and gets the black one and drops the

496
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: top and the driving around with a neck brace on

497
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 1: with his outfit in the car like this is my

498
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: this is my father. Okay, Like wait, nobody was like

499
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: so in the dealership full neck wak but no one sunny,

500
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: no one, no one's like hey, so perhaps maybe that's

501
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: not a good look or brace you should just lay

502
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: down for a couple of weeks and no, oh that's

503
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: But also it sounds like he has a great sense

504
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: of humor. Had a great sense of humor, did he?

505
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: Because is that you get a lot of your humor

506
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: from him? I do. My mother's funny, but my dad

507
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: had I get a lot of the I mean this is.

508
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: Other people have said this, I'm just quoting them. The

509
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: charm and the nore and the humor. The humor is

510
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: all him, Like he's hysterical. You always have to laugh

511
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: when he was the rap. I'm just calling other people

512
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: carry to me. I wanna if for our listeners, I

513
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: need you to refer back to the beginning which I

514
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: said that this man is a combination of boozy, conceited, doumbling, humble,

515
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: down to earth, all of it, all of it wrapped

516
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: away you. You love to hate it, but you can't

517
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: hit him because he's so sweet. Other people have said this. Carry.

518
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm just quoting him. I get my charm. You know

519
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm charming. You know. Uh, that's what they say. So

520
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: did your father struggle with depression? You know it's funny

521
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: because I never really if he did, he did a

522
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: phenomenal job of hiding it from his kids. Um. Now,

523
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: did he get upset? And was he and his feelings

524
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: about certain things? I mean, he was a fireman for

525
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: thirty plus years and then and they ended up firing

526
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: him from his job. Which is what you know, when

527
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: you work somewhere for that long, it becomes your identity.

528
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: It becomes a part of you. And I think that

529
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: really hurt him in that moment, and I think he

530
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: was trying to do a lot of things to get

531
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: it back and to do different things to try to

532
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: bring awareness around the things he felt weren't right in

533
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: the way that he was treated there that I just

534
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: think it just weighed on him so heavily, amongst other

535
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: things that I'm sure that I don't you know that

536
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know he was facing that led him to,

537
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, to take his own life. So it's just,

538
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, with that being said, it just always makes

539
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: me think about, like my mental health and my what

540
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: my inside voice is talking about, and and and meditating

541
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: and challenging in the same way of exercising my body,

542
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: exercise my brain and the way I think and the

543
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: way that I process things. Because I realized that your

544
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: mental health is so volatile it could go either way,

545
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: don't you know. It's all about how you train your

546
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: mind and the things you feed it. So I always

547
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to keep that in mind, especially after facing something.

548
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: It's tragic is that at twenty years old, when I'm

549
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of flunking out of college twice at

550
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: home in Pattison taking online courses. It felt like the

551
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: world was crashing down on me, and that in that

552
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: exact moment um But but it was also a moment

553
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: that once it because my grandfather passed away shortly after that,

554
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: and once those two things happened, I kind of looked

555
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: around and was like, oh, man, like I'm the only

556
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm the man of the crib. My grandmother was, my

557
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: mother was, my sisters, and my older brother my father.

558
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: So but it was like in my home, I'm the

559
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: man of the family. So I had to make changes

560
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: and kind of step my game up, essentially, and then

561
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: that's when things started to click. I went back to college,

562
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: ended up graduating with the three point five g p

563
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: A like just started bawling and uh And I credit

564
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: that to kind of having those wake me up moments

565
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: in the passing of some family members. You know, I

566
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: would think, because I haven't lost anybody close to me yet,

567
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: so I don't know what I'm asking you, Like, I

568
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: haven't lost the father or mother, a grandmother. I don't

569
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: know how to cope. I wouldn't even know how to

570
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: begin to cope. You just do. At twenty years old,

571
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: you get this call or I'm assuming someone tells you

572
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: and what are your first songs? Well, I kind of

573
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: just went blank, you know, Like I remember my brother

574
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: calling me and he was like, you know, yelling that

575
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Daddy died. Daddy died, you know. And I still remember

576
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: his voice because he was like frantic. I could hear it.

577
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: I can still hear it to this day, and um,

578
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: and I just remember just thinking like like what, like,

579
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And he just kept repeating it,

580
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: and every time he said it, it just made more

581
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: and more sense. It was just hitting me more like

582
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: in that moment, and I was like, wow, like he's

583
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: for real, Like this isn't you know. He's not joking

584
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: around this. This is a real thing. And I just

585
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: remember thinking and all the moments that we shared flash

586
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: to my brain, every single one, like the ones I

587
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't even think I remembered. I'm just flashing through all

588
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: those moments, you know what I mean, And and it just,

589
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, it puts everything in perspective for you. It

590
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: puts everything in that moment, everything shuts down, it stops.

591
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: It leads you to know and understand just how beautiful

592
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: a life is and just how much you really got

593
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: to cherish these moments and cherish these these times that

594
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: you have with your parents and people, because you just

595
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 1: don't know when they'll be taking from you. You know,

596
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: you just have no idea. My father was about forty

597
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: eight when he passed away, almost fifty, like you just had.

598
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: That's super young, you know what I mean. And the

599
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: part that kind of hurts me the most, I mean

600
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of hindsight when I was one, was that he

601
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: never seen me playing college. You never seen me playing

602
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: college in the league. I mean he did from heaven,

603
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: of course, but it was always like throughout my entire career,

604
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and my mother always has the moment where

605
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: you're like, man, what if if you those saying he'd

606
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: be going crazy? He'd be going absolutely crazy? Carry, do

607
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: you understand, like just I wouldn't be He'd be here,

608
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: he'd be here next to me, Like can I talk

609
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: to Carry? Like what Carry talking about? I want to

610
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: talk to Carry for something like that I'm in the

611
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: middle of, like I'm doing something like he would have

612
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: been that that, you know what I mean. First, I'd

613
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: like to thank Victor for sharing that story with us

614
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: and and having a little bit of therapy because I

615
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: know it's difficult, no matter how much time passes to

616
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: talk about losing a parent. Suicide is a serious issue,

617
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: um And I know that a lot of people, especially

618
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: in our culture today, don't like to talk about it.

619
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: It's taboo. But I think Victor for being so candid.

620
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: And on the other side of the break, I talked

621
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: to him about life after football. So not only was

622
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: he able to persevere, push through still make it to

623
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: the league after several several traumatic circumstances, Um he was there.

624
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: He made it. He was six sessful, and he did

625
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: it with a smile on his face the whole time.

626
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: And it's that same smile that keeps him employed in

627
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: many different ways. So after the break, we talked to

628
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz about life after football. Every champion and carry

629
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: champion is to be a Champiana Champion, Andy carvery champion.

630
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: They carry champion, a champion and carry Champion, and carry

631
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: champions spoison and the same making naked work. Every champion

632
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: and carry Champion is to be a Champiana Champion. They

633
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: carry champion, they cha champion, they carry champion, they carry

634
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: champion sports and in the same age and naked warpon Hey, everybody,

635
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: thank you for listening and staying with us. I know

636
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: you want to hear more from Victor Cruz. Pay attention.

637
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: I was thinking that as you said it, and I

638
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: because your story is still so incredible and I don't

639
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: think you really even can understand it. You do, but

640
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: you don't like you know what I mean? You do?

641
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: What you don't you understand and what you've accomplished as

642
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: unheard of you understand that you someone would say you,

643
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: I'll kick your coverage and and and ran with the

644
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: ball and did everything give me every cliche I can

645
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: think of, but the mental fortitude to come back after

646
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: your father commits to it's like wake you up instead

647
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: of push you the other way, and decided to be

648
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: better in school and apply yourself and feel like that

649
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: and see the man that you need to be. Then

650
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: challenge after challenge, you get to the league and he

651
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: can't necessarily see you play visually. He's not right there,

652
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: but in heaven, you know he's he's watching you. When

653
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: you have your breakout moments, when you're like I made

654
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: it and you felt secure when you were on the team.

655
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: How does that feel? How did that sit in your spirit? Uh?

656
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: That that security of being on a football team and

657
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: being the guy and being the whole, the whole thing.

658
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that felt great, especially to do it in

659
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: my own backyard, to do it with my friends and

660
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: family and stands, to do it, you know, in the

661
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: way that I wanted to do it. I truly got

662
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: to do it the way I wanted to and and um,

663
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: and that was the best part is the fact that

664
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: I got to represent myself. I got to even you know,

665
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: as a byproduct, represent my culture through it all as well. Um.

666
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: There was just so many layers of it that I

667
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: got to experience with the fans and with my teammates

668
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: and with the game of football in general, that it

669
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: will forever be tied to my life and who I

670
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: am as a as a person. That those moments on

671
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: the football field and those moments of security, especially that's

672
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: a key word, because you're a different guy on a

673
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: football team. You got some security. You're talking different, You're

674
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: moving around a little different. You know, those first two

675
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: years when I was a free agent, just moving around

676
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where all the bathrooms were, I was,

677
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I was, I wasn't talking the same as I was

678
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: in year six. You know what I mean. So, well, yeah,

679
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. With the first two years your

680
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: free agent. I'm not getting into your money. I don't

681
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: want to my business, but I will get into it

682
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. I ain't got June you sign a

683
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: one year deal for two point eight seven nine million

684
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: restricted free agent tender. July you signed a five year,

685
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: forty five million dollar deal. That's the contract extension. Let's

686
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: talk about that. How did that feel? I mean moment,

687
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: don't compare it to what people are making down but

688
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: in that moment, yeah, that was a big deal. In

689
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: that moment, kids, I know you're seeing all this money

690
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: flying around now like the old like the old Benjamin

691
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Button like, but yeah, like that was that was one

692
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: of those moments for me that was like wow, Like

693
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: not only did I come here in my backyard with

694
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: the Giants, a team or stadium that I've driven past

695
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: a hundred times in my life, you know what I mean,

696
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: like growing up where I did in Pattison, like like

697
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: seeing that stadium, respecting the game, going there for summer

698
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: jam concerts like all of that. It's a part of

699
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: my childhood, a part of my youth, Like, so to

700
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: go there and play the game at the highest level,

701
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: making impression on not only the fans, but the organization

702
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: enough to they where they felt like I needed to

703
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: be a part of the fabric of this of this team,

704
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: and put me in the lineage of all the other

705
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: receivers that they've that they've given money to and given

706
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: extensions to, and they put that kind of trust into Um,

707
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: it was just humbling. I still have a video. I

708
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: remember the video of me driving to go sign the contract,

709
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like, man, I finally did it.

710
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: This is good for everybody. It's kind of like, you know,

711
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: we're saving that one for the documentary, you know that

712
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: the second year. But yeah, I remember that being like

713
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: it was just a big deal. And I remember taking

714
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: a photo. I took a photo outside of the uh

715
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: the Giants building in front of the hand yd logo,

716
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: and I remember that being like the mama made a

717
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: moment and understanding that now I gotta I gotta step

718
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: my game up and do things on the higher level them. Um,

719
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: I didn't cry. I think it was just so excited

720
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: and just I was just anxious. I was just anxious

721
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: to like start and be a leader, and like you know,

722
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: and and buy a Ferrari and like, do all these

723
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: different or no? I was black on black black move

724
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: so beautiful when you cry more specifically I do. It's

725
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: funny you asked that because even when I, you know,

726
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: when my dad passed away, Um, I didn't cry at

727
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: the funeral. And I don't really understand why. I kind

728
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: of was. I wanted to, it was like, but it

729
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: just wasn't there for some reason. And I was just

730
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: like I was more so concerned about how I'm gonna

731
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: take care of everyone and like how I'm gonna, like,

732
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, how am I gonna live without calling him

733
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: or without him being president? Like I was thinking about

734
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: so many different things. It wasn't until I shot a

735
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: documentary with Showtime and they literally asked me, hey, how

736
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: does it feel? You know, how does losing your dad

737
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: make you feel? And I was like, wait, what held on?

738
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Like no one's ever asking that, like the hold on,

739
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: I need a second? And I answered the question. I

740
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: think I answered. I kind of stumbled through it or

741
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: tried to get through it, but they could tell because

742
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: right after that Gotham Gotham tropro directed the great director.

743
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: He's incredible. I know him. I know him too, and

744
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: he um, he go he looks around the joint, he goes,

745
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: I think we need to take a break now, and

746
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and I kind of got up

747
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: and I was kind of overwhelmed, but I wasn't crying

748
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: yet and then like Boot, it all just it all

749
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: just hit me. Even the other day, you know, it's

750
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: crazy with my dad is uh the other day I

751
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: carry this is obituary like his his his thing from

752
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: the funeral. I carry with me everywhere. Really, why is that?

753
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just kind of started doing it.

754
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: I found it um a couple of years ago when

755
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: I was moving and I just found it and I

756
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: was like, I want to just keep this little piece

757
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: him close to me. And with that, I keep a

758
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: letter that he wrote to me as well. And I

759
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: found it by accident and I was just moving through

760
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: things and I was like, let me read this. And

761
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: I started to read it, and you know how when

762
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: you read something and you hear his voice, bro, it

763
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: was like I couldn't even get through the first sentence.

764
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: It was just it was just over. Like I started bawling.

765
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: And Bree, you know Bree, obviously she walks in the

766
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: room in the bedroom. She walks in the room and

767
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: she's like, hey, we're about to leave. Are you crying?

768
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: It was like two o'clock in the afternoon. We're moving around,

769
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: trying to move with shake, you know, and she was like,

770
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: you crying. I was like yeah, but like I just

771
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: read it and I just it was over and I

772
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: was you know, it was just one of those moments

773
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: that I was just like, man, you hear his voice

774
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: and I couldn't even I couldn't even finish the letter,

775
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Do you put it in

776
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: your wallet? Where do you have it? You know, in

777
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: the U in the in your carry on. There's a

778
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: little zipper with the NAT you can just kind of

779
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: live flatting there, so I kind of keeping in my

780
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: carry on whatever carry on. I'm all I'm using I'll

781
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: just swap it and put it into that and make

782
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: sure it's with me at all time. M paraphrase it

783
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: for me? Can you paraphrase it? Do you know anything

784
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: in particular that it wasn't good? That it wasn't good?

785
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: It was a it was a time where he let

786
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: me borrow his car and I was out. The story

787
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: is way too long. I ended up in New York

788
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: at a dip set video with the Homi whatever. I

789
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: come back late. He's calling me, blowing me up, like, hey,

790
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: where's the cars? The car. I'm like, I'm on my

791
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: way back. It just so happens. I'm like in southern Manhattan,

792
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: so it's gonna take me quite some time to get back.

793
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: But he's blowing me up like and now I'm scared,

794
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: like he's yelling at me, and like, you know what,

795
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm not about to see this man. So I put

796
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: his car in his driveway, I opened up the keyhole

797
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: jump dumped the key in his mailbox. And I've been

798
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: getting to walk. And if anybody knows, he lives at

799
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: the Saftan, New Jersey, and I lived in Pattison, New Jersey.

800
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: And if I were have walked all the way from

801
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: his house to my house, it probably would have taken

802
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: anywhere from ten to twelve hours. It was fine walking

803
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: at least exactly so obviously, naturally, what a young kid does.

804
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: I called my mother. She gets in the car with

805
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: my younger sister. She picks me up. So she picks

806
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: me up. But he sends me a letter the next

807
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: day saying, how you know, just being respectful and like

808
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: if I give you keys in your hand as a man,

809
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: don't you're supposed to give them back to me? As

810
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: I mean, it was very reprimanding. So it wasn't even

811
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: like this positive letter where he was great. And I

812
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: think even that kind of says something because that's kind

813
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: of like, of all the things I choose to keep,

814
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: is his obituary with his face, his picture, and a

815
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: letter of him kind of scolding me and reprimanding me

816
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: for not bringing his car back, you know, like a

817
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: man essentially instead of scouring and not being you know

818
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: where I was and what I was doing, you know

819
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's powerful, though, do you don't even

820
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: know what that says? Our? I'm actually, as I'm saying

821
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: it to you, I'm realizing, like, wow, why do I

822
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: why do I even keep that? Of all things, you

823
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's him telling you how to

824
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: be a man. Yeah, I think that's like my rule.

825
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: It's like my one guideline or my rule book to like, Okay,

826
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: you know this is here, This is how. This is

827
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: the foundation to becoming a man is being held accountable

828
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: for your actions. If someone gives you something, you give

829
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: it back to them in their hands, and you're respectful

830
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: in their respect, even more as a man because of it,

831
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: no matter the certain things. You know, Wow, that's powerful. Wow.

832
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: Who knew he was getting this deep on neckt with

833
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: carry champions. That's what we do. We go there. We

834
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: don't even know when we're going there. But just think

835
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: about that. I I mean, for me, if I lose

836
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: a loved one and no one writes letters anymore, but

837
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: that would mean everything to me, that would be that

838
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: would be a letter on him saying for me how

839
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: to live my life, like just just the foundation of

840
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: being a man, especially in our community. You know, follow

841
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: the son. You wrote your daughter a letter? How does

842
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: your daughter now? Oh she's nine years old? Well what

843
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: the letters say? Oh? Man? I think if I wrote

844
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: Kennedy a letter, Um, I think I tell her just

845
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: to always be strong, always use wisdom or you understand.

846
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: You know what's right and what's wrong. You understand like

847
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: the morals and what good character is. Um. And just

848
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: hold that tight hold onto the people you love. Tell

849
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: them you love them when you when you know when

850
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: they're around, Remind them all the time, because I promise

851
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: you know you don't know tomorrow's and I promise, And

852
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: you want to live in the day, live in the

853
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: moment um always just be smart and understand who you are.

854
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: Never change for anyone or anything or anybody for any reason.

855
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, stay true to yourself and who you are,

856
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: and you'll get far far in life. How does she

857
00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: remind you of you? In every way? And it's this,

858
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, It's just it's annoying because I'm when I

859
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: rememmand her, I'm looking at myself and I was like,

860
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: I was like this, and I was My mother used

861
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: to reprimand me and I used to be you know,

862
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: I used to have the same reactions. Though she laughs

863
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: like me, so we can't even laugh. We have these

864
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: laughing contests because we laugh about something that's funny, and

865
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: then we realized that we laughed the same and then

866
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: now we're laughing at the fact that we laughed the same.

867
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: So it's just like a whole cycle of laughing. So

868
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: that's that's one thing. And her personality, she's like, her

869
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: sense of humor is incredible. She's obviously the only child,

870
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: so she's been around adults forever, so her her humor

871
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: is very mature and um, it's just funny. It's just

872
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: it's just fun. Man. I'm having real conversations with her. Now.

873
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, we're golfed together now, so as I get

874
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: back to Jersey, were hitting these we hitting these greens

875
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: and getting back after it. So we um, we just

876
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: have fun together. It's like really having a conversation with

877
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: a young adult. And she's only nine, but she's so

878
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: mature and growing so fast and has so many questions.

879
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Um that I gotta be on my p's and q's

880
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: and answer those in the way that you know. It's

881
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: beneficial for her because kids will ask you some honest stuff. Yeah,

882
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: like you'll be like, wait a second, do I answer that?

883
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: Do you tell her the truth? Or do you dance

884
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: around the truth? And certain things don't want to answer.

885
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: I tell her the truth. I tell her the truth,

886
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: especially because in this day and age, I want you

887
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: to get it from me, like I want you to

888
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: get this information from your father or your mother. Are

889
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: the people that care about you and love you, so

890
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: you don't have any surprises when you're out there in

891
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: the street, so there's no I want to give you

892
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: all the tools so when these things arise and they

893
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: come up, Um, you'll have a plan. You'll have an

894
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: exact plan on what to do and how to combat

895
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: these things and be like, oh yeah, my father told

896
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: me about that. Okay, this is I'm gonna handle that.

897
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like you have all the

898
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: tools and your arsenal to be successful. So that's the

899
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: one thing I want to instill in her. And she's

900
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: it's almost time for her, the whole monthly thing that

901
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: she goes, No, no, too soon. You wan't to talking

902
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: about that. You talked to your daughter about that. I

903
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: don't have to talk about that. Her mother's already had her.

904
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm my only comment when it, when it strikes, my

905
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: only conversation with her will be it better looks like you.

906
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to see a remnants get out of here,

907
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: you boy. No, I'm talking about like in the garbage,

908
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, Like I want you to be

909
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: clean in sanator Okay, okay, yeah, of course, Well she's

910
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: going to understand that this is like a thing where

911
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: you need to be extra clean and sanita and sanitary

912
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: about all of this stuff and be clean about it.

913
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: That's first and foremost. You've never had a period, agreed,

914
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: But I've grown up. I'm growing up around women. You

915
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: know how many times open the toilets and you're like,

916
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: stop it, stop it, stop it. And that is not

917
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: you grew up around them, but a grown women, like

918
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: women you date when you've lived with before, they don't

919
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: do that. They don't do what least things in the toilet.

920
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I'm gonna fight you this conversation. This

921
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: conversation just was left you trying to tell me you've

922
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: been with women that you have dated and they left

923
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: a tampon in the toilet. Yeah, what are we talking

924
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: about here? No, that's not possible. Hey, yeah, but I

925
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: don't want you And this is just the woman and

926
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: you're in and her mother to say this too. Don't

927
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: make her feel ashamed about being a period because it's

928
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: just a natural cycle of life, right, absolutely, it just happens.

929
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: You're just saying, clean up after yourself. Okay. You sound like,

930
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: by the way, you sound like a five year old.

931
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: You sound like, this is when the bougie. This is

932
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: when Yeah, but this is when the bougie and you

933
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: come out. That's when you know you're and I agree

934
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: with everything you're saying, but you know your hecka particular.

935
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: I am very particular. You have to give her some

936
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: grace if she makes the mistake. Okay, she gets a

937
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: grace period of course, as as all as all kids

938
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. Why are you so particular? I don't know.

939
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: I just think it's um I think I get it

940
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: for my mom, to be honest, Like my mother was

941
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: the mom that came in came home and was like,

942
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: why all the lights on? Turn of lights all while

943
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: you got dishes in the scene. Why is it dirty

944
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: in here? I don't know how you could be in

945
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: a dirty house, And just like he just like for her,

946
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: for her to come home and not do all those things,

947
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: I had to bust the dishes down. I had to

948
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: like make sure the house was to her liking so

949
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: that when she came home she could just chill and

950
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: not be on us, you know what I mean. Like,

951
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: so I think that that carried over to just how

952
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: I am overall and how I am like with everything

953
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: that I kind of do you know what I mean?

954
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: Would you would the sun? Would you be like, Okay,

955
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: when you start having sex or when you start doing

956
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing in the bed at night, I don't

957
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: want to see no room that sheets better be clean.

958
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: Would you do this? Would you tell him that? Absolutely?

959
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: I don't want no sticky socks together? Okay, I'm easy

960
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: to get yourself together. I need you to get yourself together, sir.

961
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: I need you to get yourself. I do not like

962
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: you like it's all about like just moving even keels

963
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: out here man. Okay. So with that being said, and

964
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: how particularly you are, I adore you. With that being said,

965
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: and how particular you are, do you find it hard

966
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: to to date? And I'm not talking about past relationships,

967
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: but it's in general? Do you look for things wrong

968
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: with women? I don't look for things wrong per se.

969
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I think I look. I think I look for all

970
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: the things that are right, and then the wrong things

971
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: kind of appear. I don't say wrong things, but things

972
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: that you may not like or things that may not

973
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: be to your liking in your significant other. But I

974
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: don't I walking around looking for the negatives, like, all right,

975
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: tell me what you don't tell me all the negatives

976
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: about you? Like, I want to know the positives. Then

977
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: we can work our way backwards. But visually I'm asking visually,

978
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: that's that's right, Yeah, because I because the stuff about

979
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: knowing who they are comes but visually I'm under the

980
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: impression that you'll like ridicular visually. Yes, correct, yeah, exactly.

981
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: This is the part I don't like about you. That is,

982
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: want to confirm that for the people. Wait, would you

983
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: say say that again? That's want to confirm that for

984
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: the people. I am in particular. Everyone has a particular

985
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: sense of what they like and what they don't like.

986
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it. What if you meant like

987
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: to me? Do you ever remember that movie something about No, No, no, no,

988
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't something about Mary, it was Yes, you already

989
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: knew I was about I know you're going. I know.

990
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: I did the research for you. You You remind me Shallow

991
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: House Homeboy Guy's broad walking and he didn't like the

992
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: air petail was shaped, and he was like, I'm out,

993
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: I can't it's disgusting. I don't know why I'm like that, man.

994
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not as particular as a might be.

995
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, No, you are thin uh, but I'm just

996
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: it's just the way I am. I don't know. If

997
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: I see something that feels off to me, or something

998
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: that's like a deal breaker in terms of like exterior

999
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: how I'm looking or something external like, it just is

1000
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know. I just you don't

1001
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: even know what a deal breaker is. You can have

1002
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: a perfect looking woman from top to bottom and you

1003
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: don't like the way she walks, and you're like, yeah,

1004
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: you're not being pigeons. So that's not my thing. I'm

1005
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: not talked about knock me. I'm just saying maybe she

1006
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: has a different type of gait in which you don't

1007
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: find attractive, but you still can't ignore that because like

1008
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: body could be banging. I'm thinking of anything. I mean,

1009
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, put together the perfect woman, and

1010
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: she puts everything together, all pieces and places and all

1011
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: the stuff you want. And then she has a purse

1012
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: that's dirty, and I can see you being, oh, she

1013
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: put out a white purse that has some lipstick stains

1014
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: on it. I'm out, I'm not that, but I mean maybe,

1015
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: but I'm not that. I mean, you just have to

1016
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: be kept like I like a woman that's well kevin,

1017
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: that smells nice, that has nice, that likes to get

1018
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: manicures and petticures on a consistent basis. I'm not that difficult.

1019
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like a lot that you're asking for,

1020
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: but you're talking that's basics, but that's not what it

1021
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: is with you that you want more than the basics,

1022
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: and you're not being honest and you're not being on naked. No,

1023
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, yes, I want all those other things,

1024
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: but on the foundational level, I just want you to

1025
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: take care of me well kept. I shouldn't see a chip.

1026
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: There should never be a chip in your tone up

1027
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: like you should be. I mean, grant things happened, put

1028
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: your foot in your shoe, get chips what it is.

1029
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: But it should never look this shovel. You should never

1030
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: look the shovel because I I want to look, I

1031
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: don't look. What if somebody doesn't like something on you,

1032
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: I think what you're actually I'm not that type of person.

1033
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: I can take it as much as I can give it.

1034
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: And you know that, Yeah, that's true. But I think

1035
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: it's also a reflection on how you treat yourself. Do

1036
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: you unders what I'm saying. I said, what you require

1037
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: in a woman seems like it's a reflection of how

1038
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: you feel about yourself. Wow, that was That's extremely accurate

1039
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: because I do feel like when I see myself dating

1040
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: a person, you know, I automatically go to like, what's

1041
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: this person looks like, you know side, you know, on

1042
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: my arm at a red carpet event? Like what how

1043
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: do they look next to me in the car when

1044
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: we're pulling up to you know, wherever? How do they

1045
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: look next to me walking down the street as a couple.

1046
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: I just I look at that, and I think about that,

1047
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: and I think about can I do that already? Gonna

1048
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: get that? You know what I mean? Like, I think

1049
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: about all those things, and if I don't envision or

1050
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: if that vision doesn't you know, resonate with me, then nothing.

1051
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: It's not that it's a deal breaker, but it's just

1052
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna take more time to get there if if

1053
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: we open that door. What does your therapist say about that?

1054
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: Because that sounds like a lot of working through that part. Yeah,

1055
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: A that she circled. She circled that with the red marker.

1056
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: Come back to that. Because I know you, and if

1057
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: someone's listening and they don't know you, this sounds very vain.

1058
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: Man will agree with you, I hear man, especially in

1059
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: my business, especially with all the athletes. Don't you look

1060
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: at him, man and you're and you guys are talking

1061
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: and you guys are being, you know, hanging out. The

1062
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: minute you see him, don't you go through those thoughts of, OK,

1063
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: what do I look like on his arm? What do

1064
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: I look like? No, I don't even I just think

1065
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm the bomb and he would be lucky to have me,

1066
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm the ship and if I'm on his arm,

1067
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: he went in. But let me tell you what we

1068
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: do in an envisioned like, oh, could you marry this

1069
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: man at some point? Yeah, of course, yes, yes you

1070
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: have Yeah, But it doesn't have anything to do with

1071
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: things that turned me off because normally I were attracted

1072
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: to what we if I even if we're dating and

1073
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: I like you, the attraction is there, right So if

1074
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: there if, if I'm visualizing even more than that, that's

1075
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: where the the inside work has to come in, whether

1076
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: I have to spend time with you. But I'm gonna

1077
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: tell you a true story, and this is something I

1078
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: know that you would have been a deal breaker for you.

1079
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: I went out with this guy, very famous, very well known,

1080
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying any names, and he was fine as

1081
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: all get out, like super fine, and we had an

1082
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: intimate moment and I was getting ready to lay down

1083
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: and go to sleep, and he was like, oh, f y,

1084
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: I I snore and fart in my sleep. Come on,

1085
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: you would have been turned off by that. You say

1086
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: this to you on every single thing that I loved.

1087
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: But why why waiting for a bid because it's about

1088
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: to go down? No? But but why tell me that? Like,

1089
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: is that not a turn off? I mean, what would

1090
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: you rather him not tell you? And then you would

1091
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: like No? My point being is is that I ignored it,

1092
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: and I tried to make him feel fine about it,

1093
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, if anybody knew that you said

1094
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: that or talk like that, Like people watch you all

1095
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: the time and probably think you just should and if

1096
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: they knew this, they would be completely turned off. I, however,

1097
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: am an adult and I just pressed on and I

1098
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: made a joke and it wasn't He didn't know. He No,

1099
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: he didn't, he did, He didn't. He probably was like

1100
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: nervous about it. He didn't do it. He was just

1101
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: giving me a little funny when you know, he was

1102
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: giving me just the heads up in case it went down.

1103
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: But if a woman said that to you, you'd be

1104
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: like you gotta go, Like the night would be over.

1105
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: You're like gotta go, right, I got to catch a train.

1106
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: I just forgot all about the train that I got

1107
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: to do. That's how vain you are. You have to

1108
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: get past that work. You saying, if Holly, if Helly

1109
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: Berry said to you while you're in bed, Hey, you

1110
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: know what, just a fy I before we go to sleep.

1111
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: These oscars these last couple of days, I don't even

1112
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: want it. I don't even what I love. You don't

1113
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: want it? Okay, okay, okay, j Lo Oh that's different.

1114
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: Hold on, what's the question? It would be the question,

1115
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: So j Lo I the match to halle Gee. This

1116
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: is how particular he is. Guys, j will come to

1117
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: you and Jlo says, you know what, babe, just here

1118
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: to go to bed. F y I. I don't. I

1119
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna happen, but I may fart

1120
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: and I do snorre my sleep. Is that okay? Snoring?

1121
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem because that snow occasion, this bro.

1122
00:57:53,800 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: The farting could be problem. The farting can be problematic

1123
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: because that will weake me about in my sleep and

1124
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: then like stink or is it just sound? It's just

1125
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know to it's too much for me I

1126
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: feel like we've come to a place in our lives

1127
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: to be a bit picky about what we want and

1128
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: what we don't want. What are you say it so

1129
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: you can keep jail a lot a bit? Is she fart?

1130
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: You're saying jail, you should pack your things and go home.

1131
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. I may see if

1132
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: I can survive at night. But even if you can

1133
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: survive a night, would you want to hang out with

1134
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: her again? Yeah? I'm shot. I mean, it depends on

1135
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: the severity if how many times did she you know,

1136
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of it of the doubt. Okay,

1137
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more leeway. It's a little bit

1138
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: more leeway. Wait to say it? Did you just say

1139
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: it depends on how many times she farts? You don't

1140
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: start breaking down from your five farts tonight? Okay? So

1141
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: if she does over under five farts, you can stay

1142
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: under five? Under five room stink? If too stink? Do

1143
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: you stay? Oh? Two out of the five? Oh that's

1144
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: a good one, because I've been waiting about my sleep.

1145
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: Good Lord to h Yeah, that's a I can't do it.

1146
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: It's that's too much. Wait. So okay, I just want

1147
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: to make sure we're clear. You're leaving j Loo if

1148
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: she farts in the bed and two of the five

1149
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: farts stink. Do you see how particular you are and

1150
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: how ridiculous you sound. That's what I wanted to get to.

1151
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: When you have too much milk, you know, and it's

1152
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: just nasty whole milk too, not old old milk. That's

1153
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: not good. I can do it. But what it sounds

1154
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: like is that you're a guy that doesn't use the

1155
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: bathroom in front of his girlfriend. I use the bathroom

1156
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: from when I have a girl, when I have a girlfriend.

1157
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely are you kidding? Super comfortable with that? And you

1158
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: won't let j Lo fart in the bed twice? That's

1159
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: different where sleep we're supposed to be going to bad

1160
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: it's not different. Acid You're like, what are we doing here? Okay, Okay,

1161
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: this conversation is ridiculous. The point of the point, as

1162
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: I get ready to let you go, the point is

1163
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: is that you are very, very particular, if not shallow,

1164
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: and that has a deeper reflection to do with who

1165
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: you are. And I wonder wonder dear friend, because Scott,

1166
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: I love you so much and you make me laugh,

1167
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: and you are charming and you are all of those

1168
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: things you are. Seriously, do you ever huh? Other people

1169
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: saying I don't say, do you ever? Um wonder why

1170
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: you are the way you are? Like I I have

1171
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: a feeling that you talked to yourself a lot I do.

1172
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: It was funny. I was watching camera on Drink Champs.

1173
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: Have you watched that yet? And you know he says

1174
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: he goes in the mirror and like reminds himself and

1175
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: who he is every day about And I do that

1176
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: sick thing, but not in vain. It's it's like you

1177
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: just have a conversation, like even this morning, like I'm

1178
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: a little psycho looking not psycho, but I'm a little psycho. Right.

1179
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: So I wake up, I read the rundown for today's

1180
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: daily Pop show, and I really treated like a game.

1181
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: I get up and I'm like, I get in the

1182
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: mirror and I'm just like, okay, let's go, Like I'm

1183
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: ready for the day. You know, you're ready to come

1184
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: for the day. You're gonna be that guy. You're gonna

1185
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: put these clothes on, You're gonna feel good in your skin.

1186
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on that team representating your mother, your father,

1187
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: your grandmother, your heritage. Every every time I open my mouth,

1188
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm representing all of them and that and that drives

1189
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: me and that motivates me every single day to do

1190
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: what I do. And I think that in in culmination

1191
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: with the things that I've been through in my entire life,

1192
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, the ups to downs, the trials and tribulations,

1193
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: losing family members, having to rise up instead of fail,

1194
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, choosing to you know, going to community college twice,

1195
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: being embarrassed coming back on Pattison, she was looking at

1196
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,959
Speaker 1: me crazy, going back to school, achieving my dream, making

1197
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: the leap, Like all these different things really helped shape

1198
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: who I am and appreciate my don't even where I

1199
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: came from, and still be able to enjoy the fruits

1200
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: of it too, and elevate my professional career and elevate

1201
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: my family's life. As who are you the most honest with?

1202
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: Who are the most vulnerable, most naked with? Who sees you?

1203
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean for all that you are? I think it's

1204
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: my mean, my mother without a shadow down. I mean,

1205
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: there's I speak to her every day. There is a

1206
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: single topic the thing that we don't talk about. Um,

1207
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like honest with her. She gives me brutally

1208
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: honest feedback. And you know, she's a little biased, obviously

1209
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: because she's my mother, But I know it's real, and

1210
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: I know it comes from a place of wisdom and

1211
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: what she's been through and like, and I always respect

1212
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: her opinion. And I think she just knows me inside

1213
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: and now before I can even finish a sentence or

1214
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: finish her thought, she already knows what I'm thinking and like,

1215
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: and she could always you could already think three steps

1216
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: ahead of what I'm thinking, you know, So she like

1217
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: knows me to the point, you know, she could be

1218
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: blindfolded to pick me out of a crap? What is

1219
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz? What to do next? I hate the third

1220
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: person conversation, But how do you see yourself evolving for

1221
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: the better? If you could, if you could say, I

1222
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: really got to work on this. What you already know

1223
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: what it is? What what does that look like for you? Um?

1224
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: I think I have to work on I think it's just,

1225
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, maintaining better friendships and just I mean not

1226
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: that I have any bad friendships, but I think I

1227
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: do a bad job of kind of maintaining all of

1228
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: them and watering all of them. You know, and also

1229
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: being mindful of my own space. I can't spread myself

1230
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: too thin and be with a hunther people. But there's

1231
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: some people that have been in my life a long

1232
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: time that deserves a little bit more watering than others.

1233
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: And um, and just being better at that and being

1234
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: better at you know, you know, haven't spending more time

1235
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: with my friends and making more memories and more memorable

1236
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: moments because I got said life is short, you know,

1237
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: and even my close circle of friends, we've seen so

1238
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: many people around us come and go, both are age

1239
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: older and younger, from all walks of life. Um, and

1240
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: they understand how short life is. And I think we have,

1241
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, We've come along a way, all of us,

1242
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: and I want to continue to nourish those relationships and

1243
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: those friendships I've been there forever. Well, you've nourished this friendship.

1244
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on the podcast. And

1245
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: you are the best. Okay, I really appreciate you, Victor

1246
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: Michael Cruz joining us on Naked. I hope you guys

1247
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: enjoyed that as much as I did. I gotta be honest,

1248
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: that was one of my favorites in terms of how

1249
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: funny it was because I get a sense of humor. UM.

1250
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: I think that when people are like Victor, talented, smart,

1251
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: things seemingly come easy, but they don't. He's very much

1252
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: a perfectionist. He works hard. He wants to take care

1253
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: of his family, he wants to take care of his friends,

1254
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: he wants to make sure that he's doing the right thing,

1255
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: and all of that is illustrated in his relationships and

1256
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: his work relationships and how he moves in this world.

1257
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: He'll never be the guy who big times you, right,

1258
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: He's never the guy to be like, I don't know

1259
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: who you are. I'm famous, I'm famous. I don't know

1260
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: who you are. UM. And I feel that way deep

1261
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: down in my soul about who he is. When I'm

1262
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: around him, he makes me just laugh. And it's not

1263
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: a gushing podcast. I don't want you to think I

1264
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: gotta crush out him because he too shallow for me.

1265
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: But I am gushing in the sense that it's always

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Speaker 1: good to see a black man in the world who

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Speaker 1: is successful in winning and doesn't have this tough spirit

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Speaker 1: about him. I'm not saying that's all black man, so

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Speaker 1: don't don't at me. But he's very light and he

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Speaker 1: has an easiness about him. I think it's I think,

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Speaker 1: and I said this honestly to my producer Trouble. It's

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Speaker 1: easy for us to hold on the anger. It's a

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Speaker 1: very familiar emotion, especially in our community. But with Victor,

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Speaker 1: his familiar emotion, right, his naked quality is happiness, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't say that until now because I just

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Speaker 1: just realized it. The familiar emotion the more you know,

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Speaker 1: easy emotion to grab two is to be angry and

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Speaker 1: to show your anger and to release your anger on others.

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Speaker 1: But it takes a lot to just sit and be

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Speaker 1: happy and be in your own skin and enjoy who

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Speaker 1: you are no matter what happens. You look at his life,

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Speaker 1: none of it has been easy. His father commits suicide

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Speaker 1: while he's in school. Couldn't see him actually actually make

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Speaker 1: it to the league. He gets to the league, not

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Speaker 1: only is he undrafted free agent and and no one

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Speaker 1: would have thought that he would have had the career

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Speaker 1: he had. He then becomes one of the faces of

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants, that is a storied franchise in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And people know Victor Cruz because not only

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Speaker 1: did he play his heart out, he added a little

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Speaker 1: extra happiness by doing a sauca and is and it

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Speaker 1: made him even more popular. And that's to true who

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Speaker 1: he was, and he was just doing his thing. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing this also right now, which I can't see it.

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Speaker 1: Trouble can see it because we're on zoom. I enjoyed him.

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Speaker 1: I hope you did too. I challenge you, much like

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Speaker 1: I challenged myself to enjoy the emotion of just being happy.

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Speaker 1: How hard is that? Like Chew's happiness every single day

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Speaker 1: over anger or whatever, or another lazy emotion, you know

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Speaker 1: something else we commonly do happiness. I feel happy. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of Naked with Victor Cruz.