1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Always great to talk to. Booger McFarlane ESPN, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: NFL and college football analyst and part of two Super 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Bowl champion teams. Booger joining us on the program. Good morning, Booger, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: how are you dp? What's up, buddy? How are we going? Well? 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: We were talking about great running backs in college and 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: how many carries the body has in it. You know 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: that Christian McCaffrey banged up last year, got hurt last night. 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if we're going to see the same for 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott. Like at teams pay them and you want 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: to use them, but then you also have to be 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: careful with how much you use them. What happened to 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the running back position? Well, I think you guys are 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: on the something with the carries. You know. I go 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: back to the guys at Alabama remember Ingram and Richardson, 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: and they just ran those guys into the ground. And 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Richardson was never the same. Yeah, once he got in 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. And you know, if you look at a 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: guy Naji Harris who's in Gittsburgh now, Naji wasn't used 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: a lot early on in his career. His senior year 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: he was, and so I'm interested to do kind of 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: a case study to see how he fared as far 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: as the injury injuries are concerned. I think you could 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: say the same for Leonard Fournette. I mean, Les Miles 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: never met a run he didn't like, and he ran 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette into the ground. So I agree, there's only 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: so many carries. And I think NFL coaches have to 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: be smart because you know, some of these old school 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: coaches who want to practice full speed all week and 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: you know, essentially you're playing two to three games. As 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: far as the wear and tear. Now, I know you're 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: not getting hit, but you know when you're running full speed, 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: full speed, it's full speed whether it's on Wednesday or Sunday. 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, these these new school coaches have to do 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: a better job of getting guys to Sunday. That's where 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: guys like Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay. I think they 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: do a good job with some of these veteran players 38 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: because they're kind of a newer school. They really are 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: not concerned as much about having two and a half 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: have three hour practices during the week. I'm wondering if Miami. 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: The U in two thousand and one didn't have the 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: best group of running backs for one season, Clinton Portis, 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: Willis mcgahey, Frank Gore, Naji Davenport. That one was good. 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Take a look at I don't have it in front 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: of me. But what about Georgia when they had Girley, 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Sony and Michelle and there was another one they had 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: so Georgia, maybe he was Chubb. Chubb was a freshman. Yeah, 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: Chubb was a freshman. But they had Chubb, Sony, Michelle, 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift. At the same time, USC had Reggie Bush 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: and Lyndale White Oklahoma State at Thurman, Thomas Berry, Sanders, SMU, 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson, Craig James, Auburn in two thousand and four, 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown Arkansas two thousand and seven, 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis who's the best 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: running back he ever faced in college? Wow? College? I 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: would probably say Stephen Davis. Remember the big running back 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: to friend Stephen Davis. Yeah, he was. He was allowed 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: to deal with because not only was he fast man, 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: but to do was shooting thirty five two or forty pounds. Yeah, him, Man, 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else. M Yeah, he was 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: about the only one, you know, because I didn't go 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: against guys like James Stewart and Aaron Hayden. They were 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: a Tennessee, I didn't I didn't get a chance to 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: see those because I missed those guys during the SEC cycle. 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Do you think that we'll see a running back drafted 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in the top ten over the next ten years, No, 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: because I think that position has kind of I'm not 67 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna say it's devalue, but you realize, even if you 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: get one in the later rounds, the talent gap that's 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: not going to be astronomical. And so I think, therefore, 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: why would you waste a top ten pick on the 71 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: running back? I e. Leonard Fournette, even Ezekiel Elliott has 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: only given you about two or three prime years, and 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: now I think Tony Pollard is a more explosive back 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: in down so I doubt it. Maybe at the end 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: of the first round you may get one kind of 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: like a Nagi Harris around twenty two twenty three, but 77 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think you're gonna see one in the 78 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: in the top team picks because the quarterbacks are too valuable, 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: offensive linemen are too valuable, defensive linemen are too valuable, 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: and running backs come a dim aduds. Yeah, but why 81 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: is it that you can always find a running back? 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: You don't say that, maybe you say it about offensive lineman, 83 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: but it feels like you can always find a running 84 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: back because I think when you look at the at 85 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: the skill position and how guys are groomed and and 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: how guys are created in college. In high school, everyone 87 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: wants to play running back, so so you get a 88 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of the best athletes playing that position, and so 89 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: the the volume of running backs to shoose from is 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: more plentiful than say a great quarterback, because you can 91 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: only have one quarterback on the team that's gonna play 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: at one time, or a great offensive tackle, like who 93 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: wants to play offensive tackle in high school? Like none 94 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: of the girls want to day the offensive tackle. We 95 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: all want the guy that touches the football and runs 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: the ball. So I think that has something to do 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: with it. Plus, I mean, let's face it, this is 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: a seven on seven sport now, Dan, It's order backs 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: and receivers and tight ends, even a tight end like 100 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: a like a George Kittle, who with a two way 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: tight end that can block and catch. Like those guys 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: are being phased out a little bit, like blocking is 103 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: not cool anymore. It's hey, throw me the ball, let 104 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: me catch, Let me play d D where I can 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: pick the balls off and go to the end zone. 106 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: So it is a through seven on seven sport now 107 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: that happens to have a few defensive and offensive linement 108 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: in it. You can only watch one this weekend. Charger's 109 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs Buccaneers Rams, Packers Niners. To me that it's gonna 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: be Bucks Rams because I think that if both teams 111 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: play at a high level, you could be looking at 112 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: an NFC championship game. And I really want to see 113 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: what Matthew Stafford is going to do, because then think 114 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: about the narrative. It's Matthew Stafford a good player or 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: school should I say great player that was in a 116 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: bad organization in Detroit and never could kind of get 117 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: his just due or was he a good player that 118 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: just never could get the organization over the top. We're 119 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: gonna find out because he said, now his words mine. 120 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: He said, I want to play in big games. I 121 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: want to be in games that matter. Well, guess what 122 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. You you got your wish, buddy, Because this 123 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: is a huge game, Tom Brady, the Buccaneers, arguably the 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: most talented team in football, come into your house, Okay, 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: traveling across the country, and you're gonna stare the goat 126 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: toe to toe. So we're gonna find out whether Matthew 127 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Stafford can take the first step into what he talked about, 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: which is playing in these huge games. I felt like 129 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: the media overreacted week one with the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. 130 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: I didn't expect them to beat the Saints. I didn't 131 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: expect them to play that poorly. But I think they 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: overreacted in beating the Lions because I expected them to 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: beat the Lions. I think this is probably more of 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: a litmus test, you know, facing the Niners on the 135 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: oh then the first two weeks. What do you how 136 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: do you break down this game? Here's here's the way 137 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: I look at the at the Packers. The Packers are 138 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: not as bad as they were in Week one. They're 139 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: not as good as they were in Week two. If 140 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: you look at their defense, the defense is not as good. 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith he's injured, so they don't have any pass 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: for us. Now, if you don't have any pass for us, 143 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Then that means the back end 144 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: of your defense, the secondary is going to be exposed. 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: And we saw Tom Brady expose the secondary in the 146 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. Well, guess what other than Jay Year Alexander, 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: this is not a very good secondary. So yeah, their 148 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: defense is not as good. And Aaron Rodgers, let's face it, 149 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: he told you he didn't play well Week one, didn't 150 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: play well at all. So when I look at the Packers, 151 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: I think they ultimately can get back to where they were, 152 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: but they are nowhere near there. Now, they're not running 153 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: the ball as well. David Vatieri is not there there 154 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: left tackle, he's out. Corey Linsley, who was the center, 155 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: who was a very good center. He's now in LA 156 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. So the reality of it, if it's 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: not the same team, and it's gonna take this team 158 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: just a little time to jail and get where they 159 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: want to go. I don't know if they are as 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: physical as San Francisco wants to be see because the 161 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: last couple of times we've seen Green bayed San Francisco 162 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Dan it's being like, hey, let me take my little 163 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: brother behind the ship and just beat the hell out 164 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: of it, like like it's meant a physical blood. But 165 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: think about Jimmy Garoppolop. They beat the Packers and he 166 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: only threw like ten passes that game. Remember, Son, can 167 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: green bathe step up to the physical part of the 168 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: football game. That's what I want to know, because if 169 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: they can't, then the back of their minds, regardless of 170 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: what the rest of their season looks like, in the 171 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: back of their mind, they're constantly gonna say, yeah, we're good. 172 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: But if we see that team, I don't know if 173 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: we can physically step up or physically handle what they 174 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: do to us. You got the Eagles and the Cowboys. 175 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: You'll be in Dallas for Monday night. What concerns do 176 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: you have with the Cowboys? It's still the defense. Think 177 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: about this America's team, all the money Jerry got, and 178 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: the one thing we're talking about in Dallas is a 179 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: rookie defensive player in Michael Parsons, Like, where's the help 180 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrences or the secondary still isn't great? Um, 181 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: your best defensive player right now as a rookie. That's 182 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot to ask up a rookie. Now, the offense 183 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be really good. Let's face it. The offensive 184 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: line led by Zach Martin Hall of Famer, they're good. 185 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, if you don't think he's the top five 186 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: to seven quarterback in football, you need to give up 187 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: your credentials. The wide receivers when they go, when they 188 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: go three wide receivers with Gallup, Mark Cooper, Cedee Lamb, 189 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: there's not a better three in football. So the offense 190 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be good. But yeah, it's still the same question. 191 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: Can they stop people consistently, especially with a rookie as 192 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: your best defensive player? Yeah, I just wonder they It 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: feels like when you played for the Cowboys, you're you're 194 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: better than what you really are. That all of a sudden, Hey, 195 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: you played for the Cowboys. You gotta be good. And 196 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: I've been saying all along. When they went thirteen and three, 197 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 1: they were hiding a lot of that, you know, defensive 198 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: ineptitude because they kept the defense off the field. Therefore, 199 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: when they were on the field, you know, they were 200 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: able to do some things. Now, you know, can they 201 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: replicate that? Can they be that kind of team that 202 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: wins thirteen games? Therefore you don't count. You don't need 203 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: to count on the defense that much. Almost like the Chiefs. 204 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Think about week one, Dan that through the for four 205 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: hundred yards and they lost. Okay, that through it fifty 206 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: times and they lost. They go about a week two, 207 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: they actually ran the ball more than that through than 208 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: they won. So what you're saying is the Cowboys need 209 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: to know how to play complimentary football, like they need 210 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: to know how to win games. It's not just ad like. 211 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: This is not Madden, this is not Meet Friday and 212 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: we're sitting around with the PlayStation five playing video games 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: and eating you know, brisket. You actually have to put 214 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: together a game plan to play complimentary football. So how 215 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: do I protect the defense that we all agree it's 216 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: not very good? Well, maybe that shouldn't throw it every down. 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Maybe just maybe he shouldn't throw fifty times. And so 218 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: hopefully Killing Moore and Mike mccarty'll figure that out because 219 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: if they don't. If they don't, back will put up 220 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: video game numbers, but they won't win a lot of 221 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: football games. You should stop in for a meat Friday 222 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: one of these days. I would love to. As a 223 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: matter of fact, I'm gonna be coming. I'm gonna come 224 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: to New York early on a Friday morning, and I'll 225 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: land in New York maybe around nine, nine thirty, and 226 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: I'll make it a point to come by. I don't 227 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: even need to be on the show. I just want 228 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: to come by and eat and just hang out and 229 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: watch you do your thing. What do you You tell 230 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: me what you want as far as the menu and uh, 231 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll try to prepare that for you. I 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: can tell you right now, I am a I am 233 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: a brisket sausage guy. Like I don't really need the 234 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: sausage with all the cheese and halapenos in it. Just 235 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: give me some regular K Bosses sausage. Give me a 236 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: nice brisket with a nice smoke ring on it, a 237 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: little crust. I don't need it. I don't need it 238 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: fatty or lean kind of somewhere in the middle. And 239 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: just all the Coke zero you have, and I'll be 240 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: as happy as as as going outside for the first time. 241 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, buddy, have fun playing golf today. 242 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us as always. VP. Anytime you need 243 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: me let me know and I appreciate it. But thank 244 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: you very much. Be sure to catch the live edition 245 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern 246 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 247 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Mike Florio, Pro Football Live co host NBC Sports joining 248 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: us on the program. You've been fired up about this 249 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: taunting rule here in the NFL. How did where did 250 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: this originate from? Where was the ground swell? Mike, Well, 251 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: and I'm fired up for a very specific reason. I 252 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: think the NFL has done a very poor job from 253 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: a pr standpoint, from an education standpoint, from a bracing 254 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: the media and the audience for what was to come standpoint. 255 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: This rule has been on the books since nineteen ninety three. 256 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: This is at least the second time in the last 257 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: eight years that the NFL has made in enforcement of 258 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: the taunting rule a point of emphasis, which is a 259 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: fancy way of saying, Hey, you officials aren't doing your 260 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: jobs right. We want you to do your jobs better, 261 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: We want you to be more consistent. We want you 262 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: to flag Tyree Hill when he sticks the deuces in 263 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the face of a defensive back as if you're run 264 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: into the end zone, because they hadn't done that consistently. 265 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: So it's not a new rule. It's not a restriction 266 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: on celebration. The NFL dramatically relaxed the celebration rules in 267 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. This is a very specific type of conduct 268 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: that the league banned twenty eight years ago. They're just 269 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: trying to get the officials to consistently enforce it. And 270 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: it drives me nuts that the NFL did not do 271 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: a better job of explaining it, because it puts me 272 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: in the position I have to explain it, so I 273 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: bear the brunt of all the no fun league crap 274 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: that they should be taking, because they should have made 275 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: it more clear and understandable, and I think they would 276 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: have gotten more people to buy into it if they've 277 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: done it on the front end, not try to do 278 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: it on the back end. If we're not trying to 279 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: do much now anyway to get people to understand it, 280 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: they're just going forward. Why don't you taunt the taunting 281 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: penalty rule? Well, I'm tau tauning penalty t all right. 282 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: I brought this up. People keep calling me the old man, 283 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: get off my lawn. Lamar Jackson to me doing a 284 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: somersault in the end zone, that feels like you're taunting 285 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: the entire defense. By saying I'm so alone I can 286 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: flip into the end zone. Is that taunting? Well, they're 287 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: focused more on the actions that are directed at an 288 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: opponent or at the sideline. It's noah when you see it, 289 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: you know. I remember in twenty thirteen they actually had 290 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: to explain the difference between spinning the football generally as 291 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: a show of celebration versus spinning the football at the 292 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: feet of an opponent, which makes it taunting. Again, it's 293 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: noah when you see it. And the problem is the 294 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: NFL leaked yesterday to Mike Jones if USA today that 295 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: nine of the eleven taunting calls that have been made 296 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: so far are accurate. Well, okay, that's fine. Two of 297 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: them aren't. That's more than eighteen percent. That's not good. 298 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: And then they won't say which ones weren't taunting. Well, 299 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: why not say so so we all understand what it 300 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: is and what it isn't. This is what drives me 301 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: crazy about the NFL. They aren't sufficiently sensitive to what 302 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: it takes to get people to understand where they're coming from. 303 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: And some of the coaches have done a great job 304 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: of explaining this week why the rule is what it 305 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: is but that gets lost in the background. People just 306 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: want to say no fun league, and you want to 307 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: keep players from celebrating, and when the reality is they 308 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: want to keep players from doing something that pisss off 309 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: that opponent. So maybe he's looking to give the guy 310 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: a little payback after the whistle the next time he 311 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: gets a chance to do it. Or the Texans tanking. No, 312 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're tanking. They're gonna win just enough 313 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: games to screw up their chance to get the first 314 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: overall pick. I think that they have a good team, 315 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: a better team than we thought. Nickossario, the new GM 316 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: has done a good job of bringing in veteran players, 317 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: plug and play, get them on the same page. They 318 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: were more competitive last night than I thought they'd be 319 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback who had four days to get ready. 320 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: They were very competitive against the Browns. If Tyrod Taylor 321 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: doesn't injure his hamstring, they possibly win that game. They 322 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: beat the Jaguars, They outclassed the Jaguars. I think they 323 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: have a pretty good team and they don't need to tank. 324 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna end up with enough ammunition to get a 325 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback in the draft next year if they want one. 326 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: Once they trade Deshaun Watson. The question is when will 327 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: they trade him? But I think that there is reason 328 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: for optimism if you're a Texans fan, and yeah, the 329 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: schedule look at you look at the upcoming schedule. There 330 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: aren't a lot of wins there. But this is a 331 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: team that's going to go out and be competitive more 332 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: often than not. You have a column on Pro Football 333 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Talk that says Stephen Ross should do the deal he 334 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: wants for Deshaun Watson. Stephen Ross, of course the Dolphins owner, 335 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: what is the deal that he wants to do? Well, 336 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: the deal is the deal that the texts want. They 337 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: want three first round picks and two second round picks 338 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 1: or three second round picks, depending upon who you listen to. 339 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: But you know this notion that first round picks that 340 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: haven't been used are treated like this magical entity and 341 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: there's this great value. It's like a lottery ticket. Sometimes 342 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: you scratch it off and there's nothing there. And for me, 343 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: it's very simple. The Dolphins had three first round picks 344 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. To a talk about law Austin Jackson, 345 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: Noah Igbinogeny, you would give those three guys up in 346 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: a heartbeat for Deshaun Watson. So why do we have 347 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: this strange fascination with first round picks that haven't been 348 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: used yet. So it's almost like what the Rams have done. 349 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: The Rams will gladly give away their first round picks 350 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: for a proven player. Stephen Ross has wanted a franchise 351 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: quarterback for years now. They haven't truly had one since 352 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: Dan Marino. He wanted Joe Burrow, the Bengals wouldn't give 353 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: him the time of day. He wanted to Tonga BYLAWA, 354 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: that's not working out. He wants Deshaun Watson. You just 355 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: tell your people. Whatever the Texans want, go get him. Okay. 356 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: What's holding back the Texans from taking that offer, Well, 357 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: because they are confident they're going to get what they 358 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: want at some point. Whatever the Dolphins have offered so 359 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: far hasn't been good enough, and the Texans say, will 360 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: either get it now or we'll get it in March. 361 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: The draft picks aren't going to be used between now 362 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: and March, and the risk for the Dolphins in waiting 363 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: is that when we get to March, they're likely will 364 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: be other teams who say we got to move on 365 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: from this quarterback that we have. We got to get better, 366 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: we got to do something. Let's get into bidding for 367 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the next thing you know, you got 368 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: three or four teams that may drive the price even higher. 369 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: So I think there's value in just accepting the fact 370 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: that it's going to be expensive. You get a player 371 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: who's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, and 372 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: you finally have that franchise quarterback, and yeah, you give 373 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: up some of your lottery tickets. So what look at 374 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: the lottery tickets we just scratched off. Mike Floria Pro 375 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: Football Talk Live co host with Chris Sims. I'm having 376 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: a hard time understanding Aaron Rodgers with the new Aaron Rodgers, 377 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: the zen mentality. But he's got this zen mentality, but 378 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: he's certainly letting a lot of people bother him in 379 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: the media. What do you make of Aaron Rodgers unplugged 380 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: here after the first couple of weeks. I always hate 381 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: it when someone says to me, you're better than that. 382 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: My response is, you don't know me well enough to 383 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: know whether or not I am. There's a good chance 384 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm not, But I'd like to say that Aaron Rodgers 385 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: is better than being worried about the things that people 386 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: in the media say. And he had a couple of 387 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: different occasions this week to talk about it. Tuesday with 388 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, Wednesday at his press conference. And I think 389 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: that there's a fundamental difference between opinion and fact, and 390 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: he has it all kind of twisted together. And he 391 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: seems just to have a level not just a disagreement 392 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: with those who would criticize him, but he's got resentment. 393 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: There's almost like a vendetta. He wants to de platform 394 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: people who would dare criticize him. It's fair criticism based 395 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: upon the facts as we know them to be. This 396 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: isn't unfair to say when Week one looks as bad 397 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: as it did for the Packers, Hey, maybe all this 398 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: stuff going on with Aaron Rodgers plays a part in it. 399 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: Maybe Aaron Rodgers isn't all in. He made a rush 400 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: decision the weekend before the start of training camp. He 401 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: was fifty fifty two days before he showed up and 402 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: somehow he goes from fifty fifty to one hundred like that. 403 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: These are all fair questions. Just because he disagrees with 404 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: the criticism doesn't make them unfair questions, and yeah, he's 405 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: got bigger things to worry about than what people are saying. 406 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: And he acts like it's just one or two people. 407 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who are saying this. He 408 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: just needs to ignore it, focus on the season, think 409 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: about his future at the appropriate time. But why get 410 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: dragged down by the haters? Dan? Do you listen to 411 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the haters? We all have haters. Life is hello, lot's 412 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: simpler if you don't listen to them and just do 413 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: your thing. Should Kyle Shanahan have apologized to Matt Lafleur 414 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: for flirting with Aaron Rodgers. No, No, that this happens 415 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: all the time. And it amazes me when we get 416 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: these reports, breathless reports the Texans are getting phone calls 417 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: for the first overall picking the draft. Well, yeah, that's 418 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: how it works. The general managers call each other all 419 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: the time and they talk about different scenarios. The reality 420 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers was under contract and still is with 421 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: the Packers. Aaron Rodgers, it was well known in league circles, 422 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: wasn't happy with the Packers. And I think the bigger 423 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: story here is the day before the draft, the forty 424 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: nine ers sufficiently scatter brained in their strategic thinking that 425 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: as they're on the brink of taking Trey Lance, they think, 426 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: you know what, let's let's just see if we can 427 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers instead of doing the whole take a 428 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: rookie thing. That's what's amazing to me. When they should 429 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: have been locked in on their plan and have a 430 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: resolute approach, they decide to throw out a fishing line 431 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers because clearly they would have done it 432 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: if the Packers would have said, yes, you don't just 433 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: make a call out of curiosity. So there's no reason 434 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: for the Packers to be upset about it, and there's 435 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: every reason for forty nine Ers fans to think, boy, 436 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: how committed are they to Tray Lance if they were 437 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: sniffing around the possibility of getting Aaron Rodgers a day 438 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: before they picked Trey Lance. Have a good weekend, Mike, 439 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: let do Let's let the blood pressure go down a 440 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: little bit. Okay, I'm trying to give you some good content. 441 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: I know, I just worry sometimes, you know, you get 442 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: you're getting, you know, the taunting thing, and it just 443 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: felt like it did it man, you know, trying to 444 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: create the ages the audience. Then, by the way, what 445 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: is the Halloween costume that Aaron Rodgers is growing his 446 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: hair out for? Slip repeat? He's slip repeat from Seinfeldt 447 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: the guy who helped George on the Frogger Machine. Look 448 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: it up, slip repeat, that's Aaron Rodgers. Thank you, Mike. 449 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: See how that's Mike Floria. Pro football talk Life co host. 450 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 451 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 452 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search f SR 453 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: to listen live. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me three 454 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: time pro bowler Levarrington and I couldn't be more excited 455 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: to announce a new podcast called Up on Game. What 456 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: is Up on Game? You asked, along with my fellow 457 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: pro bowler t J. Hudshmanzata and Super Bowl champion Yep, 458 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: that's right, Plexico Birds. You can only name a show 459 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: with that type of talent on it Up on Game. 460 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded 461 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with Me, 462 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, t J. Hudschmansatta, and Plexico Birds on the 463 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast from. 464 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: He's David Carr, the NFL Network analyst former NFL quarterback. 465 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at d car eight. David, 466 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. What did you think of last 467 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: night's game, Dan, I mean, it was it was what 468 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: we kind of expected. But before we get to that, 469 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I just I think sometimes our birthdays lose a little 470 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: bit of magic as we get older, and I wanted 471 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, Paully just gets acknowledged 472 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: for having a birthday, because I know that that is 473 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: sometimes it can be a source of frustration and depressional birthday. 474 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: So have birthday, Polly. But something to say, hold on, David, 475 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: PAULI has something to say. Well, thanks David, You're back 476 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: to being my favorite car brother again. Oh Derek, for 477 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: a long time when we're back. Okay, all right, all right, 478 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: thanks man, Okay, I appreciate that. I hope you have 479 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: that birthday, buddy. But yeah, when you so, you look 480 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: at that game and christ McCaffrey obviously is the center 481 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: point of that offense. And I was doing our show 482 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: last night with la Damian Thomas and great running back 483 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: he was also the center point of an offense, and 484 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: I was talking to him as Christian left that game, 485 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: I said, that's that's gonna be really difficult because Joe 486 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: Brady's offensive system is so geared to getting him Christian 487 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: in position to make plays in the run game, in 488 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: the passing game, and then now he's all of a sudden, gone, 489 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna look like maybe you're not really 490 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: hitting your stride against the team that you should probably 491 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: be handling. So I think that was a lot of 492 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: the offensive issues. They're just trying to make something more. 493 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: A good player, Sam Donald, I love what they're doing 494 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: with him. Matt Rule. I've know Matt Rules since he 495 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: was an assistant offensive line coach in New York, and 496 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Matt has touched every base like he has his hand 497 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: in the offensive line. In the defense, he knows what 498 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: gives each position group trouble. And I think that's what's 499 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: so brilliant just about what they're doing on the defensive 500 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: side is they're basically running a college scheme of three 501 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: three five. I was talking to Derek about this, you know, 502 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: this summer. I was like, who's the most difficult defense schematically? 503 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: He's like the Panthers. They just create so many different 504 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: issues from a schematic steam standpoint, And you watch him 505 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: against the Saints last week. They were in the same 506 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: blitz three plays in a row against Sean Payton's offense 507 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: and Jamis Winston, who's a veteran quarterback, and they got 508 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: home every time. And it's not just scheme, it's the 509 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: personnel up front. So when I look at the Panthers, 510 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: it's like, you don't really expect a lot out of them, 511 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: but until you really dig into it and you look 512 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: at each position group and how they're kind of put together, 513 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: and you can't help but get excited for that team, 514 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: even without Christian, Like he'll come back that that hamstring. 515 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Hope school won't be something that lingers all year. He'll 516 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: come back in there. I think they'll be able to 517 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: hold down the fort. I just like what they do schematic, 518 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: they like how they're put together. I'm really happy for Sam. 519 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: I think he's a he's a good player, and they're 520 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: doing what he does well. I mean, you watch him 521 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: on the run and make him plays after the fact, 522 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: that's almost when he did his best. So I'm excited 523 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: to watch them play. But I wonder what they do 524 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey. As we move forward, he got paid. 525 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: You want to use him, but then you also know 526 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: that there's this fine line of how much we use him. 527 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Are we overusing him? You almost have to manage somebody 528 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: that is one of your highest paid players. Yeah, I agree, 529 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: And it is a situation where in Christian's case, he's 530 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: not gonna come out he I mean, I remember him 531 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago saying that he wanted to 532 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: be in on every snap on offense, and it's like, man, 533 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: I know that you love the game, but dude, you're 534 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: not going to make it. And I even heard him 535 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: talking in our pregame about how he has to take 536 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: less hits, he has to find a way to avoid 537 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: contact a little bit. So as you start to get 538 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: a little bit older, you understand that, yeah, I do 539 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: have to kind of conserve the body, and you hope 540 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: that coaching staff would do that for you. So I 541 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what the answer is there. 542 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: I know that you just look at the running back 543 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: position and these guys are just they just they're overworked. 544 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: And you get a guy like Levion Bell who's basically 545 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: just standing on the sideline for a team right now 546 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: who is probably one of the best running backs to 547 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: three years ago. You can go through the list, you 548 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: can Todd g Early, Zeke Elliott is getting his role 549 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: diminished in Dallas. They just the shelf life just isn't 550 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: very long. So what do you do? You know? Do 551 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: you just go full out, let me give it everything 552 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: I got? You know, if I if I kind of 553 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, put yourself on a pitch count, or you 554 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: let the team do it, do you get maybe another 555 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: year out of it? You know, I'm almost to the 556 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: point where it's like, let's just max out his ability, 557 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: let's see what he can do, and then when it's over, 558 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: it's over. But it's a it's a rough world for 559 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: running backs. But man, that's just kind of the world 560 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: we live in. Yeah, but that's what I would do, David. 561 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: If I'm taking a running back in the first round, 562 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: first of all, I wouldn't. But if I did take one, 563 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to use him as much as I possibly can, 564 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: and then I'll find another running back. I can find 565 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: running backs, And yeah, I just I don't. We're in 566 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: the same boat on that one. I tell everybobody, everybody, 567 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I would never pay a running back. Why 568 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: would you pay running back? Just go get another one. 569 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's what the Ravens are doing. I mean, 570 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: they have great running backs making the wrong but they're 571 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: all those guys got hurt. But the Ravens seasons over. 572 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Let's be the Chiefs, and they were running the football. 573 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: I know Lamar was a big part of that, but dude, 574 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: you can find anybody run the ball. I did think. 575 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I did think that, but you really can. I did 576 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: think of you last night as I'm watching Davis Mills, 577 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: a rookie starting for the Texans, and uh, he was 578 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: going for your record of I think you were sacked 579 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: six times in your in your debut. Did that bring 580 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: back painful memories for you? Yeah? Did the same jerseys? 581 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, same stadium, different name. But it's like, and 582 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: you just knew schematically that kind of what we talked 583 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: about earlier. They were going to bring a ton of 584 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: different looks and you just hope that the coaching staff 585 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: would just give him some answers. And to their credit, 586 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: early on, like in the first two series, they were 587 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: trying to get the bottom of his hand as fast 588 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: as possible. Then they realized they weren't even get a 589 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: first down. I mean, I think I looked up at 590 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: one point and I think they had fourteen plays and 591 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: the Panthers had fourteen first downs. So it's like, Okay, 592 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: now we got to kind of try to do something here, 593 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: so let's let's maybe step on the gas. But it's 594 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: it's not a great situation for Davis. I actually like 595 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: Davis out of out of school, and I think I 596 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: think that if you have to stay another year, he'd 597 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: made a first round pick. But you know, he's he's 598 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: just in a tough situation. It's not going to be good. Yeah, 599 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know what goes through your mind because 600 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: here you are making your NFL debut and you got 601 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: your friends and family and everybody's watching, and then you 602 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: go out there and you're like, oh my god. You 603 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: know you have to know though, Like I mean, I guess. 604 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: I guess I didn't because we beat the Cowboys the 605 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: first game and we're like, oh, this is easy. And 606 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: we go to San Diego play the Chargers and Junior 607 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: stayalus An a gap hits me a hundred times, and 608 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it was not so easy. So, like 609 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: you think you would know but like you have to 610 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of I'm twenty years so I have that luxury. 611 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Who is the guy though that you just when you 612 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: saw him, you knew this, this isn't going to work 613 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: out well. For me, it was well, okay, I take 614 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: it back. It was Junior stay Out in that game. 615 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: But fortunately we didn't play them as much after that. 616 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: But really for me, it was Dwight Freeney because we 617 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: had we just had. I mean, honestly, I can say 618 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: this now. We had no shot of beating those guys 619 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: when we were when when the cults were rolling, we 620 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: would go to Indy and I mean my dad came 621 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: to a game and he said, that's the last road 622 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: game I'm ever going in here like that. Why would 623 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: you pick Indianapolis to come to like the worst possible scenario. 624 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: Its like they're gonna be up twenty one nothing. It's 625 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: literally gonna be a blitz fest. I remember the very 626 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: first play of the game we played Indie. They're already 627 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: up seven nothing. Of course we get we get the ball. 628 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 1: I snapped the ball. My left tackle does not even 629 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: get out of his stance. You can probably go on 630 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: YouTube and find this. He doesn't even move out of 631 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: the stance. Dwy Frenny has been back to head ball, 632 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: flies out football fourteen nothing. I mean, it's just like 633 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: we didn't have a chance to play those guys. So 634 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: Dwyfrienny is the band of my existance, rong with them. 635 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: How often do you think each week you have to 636 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: do or you feel like you need to defend your 637 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: brother um with I mean maybe not anymore, but was 638 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: it a weekly process, a daily process where you had 639 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: to sort of do I stay you stick up to 640 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: your brother? Yeah, dude, you know it's like to him, 641 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: I would never stick up to him. I'm always gonna 642 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: like gonna be hard on him and whatnot. But it's 643 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: like that's my job as a big brother. But like 644 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: up until this year, it really was to the point 645 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: of like how, I mean how, I don't know how 646 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: other how else to say this, Like just look at 647 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: the numbers, look what he does. The problem was their 648 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: defense was terrible. That's just what it was like. So 649 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: they would never get enough possessions to be able to 650 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: do or they'd never get a stop. In key situation, 651 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: you'd be like, okay, we're right there, and then you know, 652 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: blown coverage beat Kansas City last year the first time, 653 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: second time, we're about to beat him again. Blown coverage, touchdown, 654 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey wide open, Like, what's happening? So this year 655 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: we get to this situation where in now and now, 656 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's a good player, you know, 657 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: and people are trying to figure out what happened between 658 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and right now. I'm like, well, nothing, He's 659 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: just been steadily getting better. Just look at the numbers, 660 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: look at him in John's system. They've been on the eyes. 661 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: But you know their defense was ranked thirtieth or whatever 662 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: they were last year, So just just be you know, 663 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Gruden talked about this. I was out there for training 664 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: camp and we're just gonna He's like, dang, all we 665 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: have to do is just give me. He of course, 666 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: he says me, give me two more possessions, you know, 667 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: with the football, and we'll be fine. And I'm like, 668 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: I guess if you look a big picture, that's probably right. 669 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: And then you look at what they did against the Ravens. 670 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Strip sack in overtime, one extra possession touchdown, Steelers the 671 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: same thing, one extra possession, big play, Henry Ruggs touchdown 672 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: off the goal. So You're like, Okay, I guess makes sense. 673 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: And then you look over the the big picture throughout 674 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: the entire season. That's going to add you know, I 675 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: mean how many wins is that going to add? I 676 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: guess we'll find out at the end. But offensively, they've 677 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: always been They've been there like since Darren Waller has 678 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: been there and Gruden and those guys, and they have 679 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: that type of big time matchup guy, all these other guys, 680 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro starting to step up. Ruggs is making more 681 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: plays down the field. You know, Brian Edwards, you know, 682 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: they they're gonna be fine on offense. It's it's really 683 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: been defense. And Max Crosby has played fantastic. Yannick and gotwack. 684 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: Another guy battled through it at hamstring injury to play 685 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: against you know, the Steelers this last week put some 686 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback back ends making some plays. Casey 687 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: Hayward hasn't even given up a completed pass on in 688 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: this year, So, I mean, what else do you want? 689 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: They got they got a chance. Now, Okay, I want 690 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: you to play the role of Tom Brady and you're 691 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: facing this Rams defense. What are you going to what 692 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: are you going to try to take advantage of. So 693 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: I went back and watched this game from them last 694 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: last year, week eleven yesterday, just to kind of refresh 695 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: my memory on what happened, how they you know, what 696 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: went wrong for the for the Bucks. And it was 697 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: really as easy as Aaron Donald. They were not able 698 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: to consistently run the football and put enough pressure on 699 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: them to not just play the pass and and Aaron 700 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: and those guys just pushed the pocket back in Brady's 701 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: lap and he made a couple of bad throws and 702 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: that was the difference. I mean, Jared got through the 703 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: ball fifty something times in that game. Matt Stafford is 704 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: clearly capable of doing the same thing. Cooper Cup had 705 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: a huge day last year. He's going to have another 706 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: one in la. I don't think that there's gonna be 707 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: anything different from a Rams standpoint or what they want 708 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: to do. They pretty much did what they wanted to. 709 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: They didn't even really try to run the football, because 710 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: even when you do play Tampa Bay, a lot of 711 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: people just don't even attempt it because because they're just 712 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: solid upfront, so fast and physical, very gap sound difficult, 713 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: but you can spread them out and throw the ball 714 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: I think Matt Stafford can do that, but from a 715 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: buccaneer standpoint, I really think that they have to try 716 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: to do some things to slow him down, whether it 717 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: be like these little trap passes, you know, not necessarily RPOs, 718 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: but some type of play action, some type of make 719 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: it look like Ron because if you just drop back 720 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, I don't care how good your offensive line it, 721 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: He's going to push back on that and make it 722 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: difficult because Brady, let's say, I mean, if he's at 723 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: this point, if he does have a weakness, he's gonna 724 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: be seven yards deep behind the center. I mean, that's 725 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: just it is at the end of the day. And 726 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: good defenses know that, and they can they can push 727 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: the pocket there, and you know he's not going to 728 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: be outside the pocket doing anything fancies. So I think 729 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: that's really what it comes down to in this game, 730 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: is trying to slow down that push by Aaron Donald 731 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: on the inside really not the outside guys. Brady's stepped 732 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: up and used pocket presents forever to get away from 733 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: those guys, but it's the inside push that created some 734 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: bad throats. I think it comes down to that. Great 735 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: to talk to you as always David have a great weekend. 736 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, you too, buddy. All right, man, 737 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: have your day.