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Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Be there and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: And how the tech are you? It's time for a

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Speaker 1: plastic episode. This one has the title high Tech at

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Speaker 1: High Speed and originally published on February two thousand and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: And Scott, who at the time we're hosting a podcast

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Speaker 1: called car Stuff, joined the show too talk on the

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Speaker 1: subject of tech in vehicle form and the kind of

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Speaker 1: tech you're you're finding in vehicles. Keep in mind this

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Speaker 1: is from things have changed, like this is before we

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Speaker 1: started talking about stuff like paying a subscription feed in

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Speaker 1: order to access your heated car seats. I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: they would have a lot to say about that as well.

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Speaker 1: But let's sit back and enjoy this classic episode. So

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Speaker 1: today we're gonna talk about a little more in depth

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Speaker 1: about some of the technology that was on display at

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Speaker 1: cs SEN, specifically in regards two cars, which is why

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Speaker 1: I got Scott onto the show here to kind of

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Speaker 1: gauge his reactions and maybe even here your insight on

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff. Well, you know I've read about it.

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Speaker 1: Now you were at the show. Of course, you saw

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Speaker 1: this stuff firsthand. A lot of this is just me

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Speaker 1: looking at reviews of you know, what everybody else has

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Speaker 1: written about this stuff. So I'm getting, you know, a

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Speaker 1: different view of the whole thing. I don't get the

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Speaker 1: hands on experience, but um, I'll do my best to

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Speaker 1: try to keep up with you. But really the reaction

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Speaker 1: maybe more of what you're going for here, because we've

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Speaker 1: got opinions both ways about this. I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: that your listeners have heard us uh, I guess butt

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Speaker 1: heads and a couple of contutes in the past, or

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Speaker 1: at least they heard that one very special episode where

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Speaker 1: I I pulled the rug out from under you. I

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Speaker 1: still have nightmares. That was the one where I think,

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Speaker 1: I think the question was Scott, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: a scenario that in like ten years it's illegal to

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Speaker 1: drive a car, And then then I watched your you

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Speaker 1: just kind of wilt from that point on. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: one of the things I want to just mention right

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Speaker 1: the car industry is always played a part in CS

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Speaker 1: as long as I have been going. This was my

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Speaker 1: Occasionally there will be some things out in the the

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Speaker 1: actual parking lots that are around the convention center to

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Speaker 1: show practical demonstrations of stuff like driver assist technologies that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. But typically most of the the exhibits

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Speaker 1: are inside, so their static displays, they're not you know,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get in the car and drive around

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Speaker 1: or anything. But I've noticed that the trend has been

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Speaker 1: growing year over year that that we're seeing more and

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Speaker 1: more car technologies make their way into the show floor,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting. I mean, I get that

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Speaker 1: their consumer technology, but often when I hear consumer technology,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of smaller things, things smaller than a vehicle,

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Speaker 1: mostly I'm thinking of things in the television stereo system world,

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Speaker 1: not things that you park in a garage. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes they get around this by just bringing in maybe

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Speaker 1: and and that's enough. But sometimes they want to bring

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Speaker 1: the whole vehicle because it's a whole package. Now at

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Speaker 1: this point, everything is connected to everything else, and they

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Speaker 1: want to show you how it all works together and

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Speaker 1: kind of it wasn't really a reveal, it sort of was.

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Speaker 1: by Toyota, but I just wanted to get that all

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Speaker 1: mean is, Scott, You're you're driving your car. You're driving

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Speaker 1: then you slow down like you have that. If this,

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Speaker 1: like a split second reaction. Uh. Everything that goes into

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Speaker 1: that's right. So who does who does the system protect?

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Speaker 1: smart appliances to to network together. Right. Yeah, If it's

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Speaker 1: just a regular old fridge or or a kegenator as

434
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Speaker 1: as we might have back at home, it's not going

435
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Speaker 1: to be able to chime up. But yeah, it's this interconnectivity.

436
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: And in fact, that's one of the big assets that

437
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Speaker 1: Amazon has is the Echo can work with lots of

438
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Speaker 1: other different home automation products, not even not just once

439
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Speaker 1: from one company, which is a huge deal. Scott, I

440
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: can't tell you how big the deal this is to

441
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Speaker 1: have a connected home. Like in the early days, everyone

442
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: was trying to make sure their approach was going to

443
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Speaker 1: become the standard approach, which meant that there was no standard,

444
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Speaker 1: you had a bunch of proprietary approaches that wouldn't talk

445
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Speaker 1: to each other. So products like the Echo and some

446
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Speaker 1: apps that I've seen are finally getting to the point

447
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: where you can interface with different products from different companies,

448
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Speaker 1: so you don't have to i in on just one

449
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: system if you happen to like one manufacturer's refrigerator. Let's

450
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: say you like Whirlpool and you really want the newest

451
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Speaker 1: smart Whirlpool fridge, which, by the way, I've seen and

452
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: it's pretty sweet. If you wanted one of those, but

453
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Speaker 1: you wanted to have your other devices from a different manufacturer,

454
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Speaker 1: it would be difficult to have them all talking to

455
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Speaker 1: each other. But something like the Echo can act like

456
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Speaker 1: a hub, and then your car becomes an extension of

457
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: that hub, and that's where you can do things like

458
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Speaker 1: check to see if like if when was the last

459
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Speaker 1: time I bought milk? So, oh, it's two weeks ago, Like, oh,

460
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: I gotta buy milk, you know. And that's the whole

461
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Speaker 1: reason we're talking about it today, because they're adding the

462
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Speaker 1: automobile to this whole mix that you know, you can

463
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Speaker 1: it's now completely mobile. You can really you can really

464
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Speaker 1: truly control your home from your car, and you can

465
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Speaker 1: do a lot of things in your car from home

466
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Speaker 1: as well. I mean the things that you just wouldn't

467
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Speaker 1: think that you would normally need. And it's it's it's

468
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Speaker 1: all luxury. I love the idea of it to like

469
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Speaker 1: some of it. It's definitely luck tree, but some of

470
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Speaker 1: it is incredibly helpful for people who are both absent

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Speaker 1: minded and a little O c D. So. I don't

472
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Speaker 1: know Scott if you've ever experienced this, but my wife

473
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Speaker 1: and I when we go out anywhere, there will come

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Speaker 1: in time, usually when we're about a mile and a

475
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Speaker 1: half away from home, when the question was the front

476
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Speaker 1: door locked, or did the garage door come all the

477
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Speaker 1: way down? Or was the oven on something some variation

478
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Speaker 1: of that will be asked, and then ultimately what has

479
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: to happen is we're a turn trip home before we

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Speaker 1: ever get to our destination. And ALEXA. One of the

481
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Speaker 1: things that can do is it can tell you and

482
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Speaker 1: presumably at least in future or implementations, it can even

483
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Speaker 1: correct things if they are incorrect, Like if you say, hey,

484
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Speaker 1: is the front door locked, No, it's not, it's unlocked.

485
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Speaker 1: Can you lock the front door for me? Yes? Click

486
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Speaker 1: and then you don't have to worry about it anymore.

487
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Speaker 1: Very smart. Now, I want to show you something, and

488
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: this is only your benefit, not the listeners benefits. To

489
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Speaker 1: see this page where I have the word yes with

490
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Speaker 1: two exclamation points, I have underlined the line that says, asking,

491
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Speaker 1: for example, whether the gardge door is closed. Every time

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Speaker 1: I leave my house, I look at the gradge door,

493
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Speaker 1: make sure it's closed, and I say, I whispered to myself,

494
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Speaker 1: the gardge door is closed. Yeah. And it's like a

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Speaker 1: little routine. It's a pattern I have. And if I

496
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Speaker 1: if I ever leave without doing that, I have to

497
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Speaker 1: return and make sure that garage door is closed because

498
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of valuable stuff in there, my tools,

499
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: I got my project car in there. Who knows what

500
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: else is in there, but bicycles things like that. See,

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Speaker 1: for us, not only do we have stuff that's valuable

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Speaker 1: in our garage, but that's a direct route into our

503
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Speaker 1: house and so and so it's where all our other

504
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: stuff happens. To me, Yeah and so, so you mean

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Speaker 1: when you walked out the door, you didn't say the

506
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Speaker 1: gradge door is locked. We actually say yeah. We say

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Speaker 1: we say Dora is down, that is That is the

508
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: That is the key phrase. And I am not joking.

509
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: If we pull out of our home area and neither

510
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Speaker 1: of us have said door is down, that won't come

511
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Speaker 1: a point where my wife say, did the garage door

512
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Speaker 1: go down? And because I don't want to lie to

513
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Speaker 1: my wife, like I want to get to where I'm going,

514
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Speaker 1: but I never want to get to where I'm going

515
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Speaker 1: more than I want to you know, like that that's

516
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Speaker 1: never so great that I will lie. I'll say, I

517
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: don't know. I am turned around and go look. I

518
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Speaker 1: am sometimes ridiculed for my my whispering of the gradge

519
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Speaker 1: door is down. It's when you say closed. When when

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Speaker 1: you say it and you've you've got that, like all right,

521
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: that chapter is closed. Now a new chapter can begin.

522
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Speaker 1: This is the journey chapter. Isn't it funny? I know

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Speaker 1: people have this type of thing. It's very low level

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Speaker 1: of c D. I I understand that, I get it,

525
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Speaker 1: but I know people have this for all kinds of

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Speaker 1: items in their house and their automobile. This really does

527
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Speaker 1: smooth out some of that. How helpful would that be

528
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Speaker 1: if you're ten miles away and you can check to

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Speaker 1: make sure that stupid gradge door is down otherwise, right,

530
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Speaker 1: or you didn't leave the dishwasher on or something when

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Speaker 1: you're gone because your fear of you know, flooding the

532
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Speaker 1: kitchen store. And then and the best thing, Scott, absolute

533
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: best thing, Alexa will never mock you for that is

534
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: probably the best part of the whole thing. Scott and

535
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: yours truly will talk more about high tech at high

536
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: speed after we come back from this quick break. So

537
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Speaker 1: moving on to some of the other manufacturers that we saw,

538
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: we stopped by Volkswagen and uh so, of course Volkswagen

539
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: obviously still in the wake of the pr disaster that

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Speaker 1: was the clean Diesel scandal, so they were they trotting

541
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Speaker 1: out their latest diesel technology. They oddly enough left that

542
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: off the show floor, an interesting move. Yeah. They instead

543
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Speaker 1: decided to show off an electric vehicle concept design called

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Speaker 1: the Buddy. Yeah I did that. I did that on

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Speaker 1: a previou A c S episode and got a lot

546
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Speaker 1: of people saying, I know who Polly Shore is, thank

547
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: you for the Polly Shore reference. Um, but yeah, the

548
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: Buddy electric vehicle concept, which it's kind of funny. It

549
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: relates in a way to another car that we'll talk about,

550
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: the F Zero one. And I know that you and

551
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: Ben covered Faraday Futures f F zero one in an episode,

552
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: right we did about it, so, uh, in a similar

553
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Speaker 1: way to what that concept was. Volkswagen's idea was to

554
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Speaker 1: create a sort of modular approach to designing electric vehicles,

555
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: and so this was really just a representation of that idea.

556
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Speaker 1: That being said, it kind of had this sort of

557
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: quirky retro futuristic design to it, very angular, very uh

558
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: odd looking. But I really dug it. Do you think it?

559
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was it trying to play on the

560
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Speaker 1: old VDO microbus thing. I think so a little bit,

561
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: but definitely in a way that was not like it

562
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: was obviously not a a uh you know, a recreation

563
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: of the microbus just with new lighting and stuff. It

564
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: was the design itself had changed pretty dramatically, Okay, And

565
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Speaker 1: you know I heard one of the one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest parts of this whole thing that made it interesting

567
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: was that, uh, it's not going to support any kind

568
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Speaker 1: of It was designed without without the intent to support

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Speaker 1: any kind of internal combustion engine. So it's purely electric

570
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: and they're going full on with this and saying this

571
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: is the way we're gonna we're gonna build this vehicle,

572
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: this platform vehicle, uh, and it's gonna be customizable. Of course,

573
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to kind of change things around.

574
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: But they've got an idea that right now it's gonna use.

575
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Speaker 1: It can use up to three different types of batteries. Right,

576
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: So there's three different types. There's the cylindrical, pouch and

577
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: prismatic cells. And I think right now they're only using

578
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: two of those. They're using prismatic and pouch cells at

579
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Speaker 1: this point. So they haven't um decided yet on the cylindrical,

580
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: but they say it gives them the flexibility to adapt

581
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: to whatever becomes the forerunner in that yield. Right. So

582
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: with this approach, they can design any number of vehicle structures,

583
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: like whether it's a car or a van or whatever,

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Speaker 1: they can go with that because of this module or approach. Uh.

585
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: They just change out the size of the battery, the

586
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Speaker 1: capacity of the battery essentially, and the size of the

587
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: chassis obviously, but it gives them a common starting ground

588
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: for lots of different vehicle types. And the the battery

589
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: pack itself is flat and fits under the car, so

590
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: you get this nice flat interior which made it incredibly

591
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Speaker 1: roomy on the inside, not that we were allowed to

592
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Speaker 1: get in. No one was allowed to get very close

593
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Speaker 1: to this thing, at least at the time we were there.

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00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: It's surprising, isn't how much how much room that free

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Speaker 1: up when it's a flat floor, Like, Yeah, it is

596
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: phenomenal where it's just like you just look at it

597
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Speaker 1: and you think, wow, I I would have so much

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Speaker 1: room to stretch out, and you know, you can even

599
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: have luggage in the cabinet law with passengers and it's

600
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't even get in the way. You get in and

601
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: it feels like an empty bust or something. Yeah, it's big, yeah,

602
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: and it has The Buddy concept car had two motors,

603
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: two electric motors, one for the front wheels, one for

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00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: the back. Um supposedly had a hundred and one kilowatt

605
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: hour capacity battery that would provide a driving range of

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Speaker 1: three hundred seventy three miles, although when asked about it,

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00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Volkswagen essentially said, actually, that's what we're working toward, that's

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Speaker 1: our goal. We're not there yet, so they packed it

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Speaker 1: down a bit. Yeah. Most people say around three hundred

610
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Speaker 1: miles max. Nasty. I saw a different number that said

611
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Speaker 1: when they ran it through testing based on the U

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Speaker 1: S E P A cycle. So you know the way

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Speaker 1: that they normally determined for these electric vehicles, the comparison miles,

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Speaker 1: I guess the equivalent. They said the equivalent was going

615
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: to be two D thirty three miles. But that's you

616
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Speaker 1: know what I should even stay per gallon, that's the range.

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Speaker 1: That's how long these batteries were less two or thirty three.

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Speaker 1: That's a significant drop from what they came out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: more than Yeah, so when they say three seventy three

620
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: and it goes to significant. But what is interesting, and

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Speaker 1: they didn't back down on this, is that they can

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Speaker 1: charge of the battery capacity in about fifteen minutes. And

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah. If that if that holds, if

624
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: that sticks, and that's true, that's really good. That's significant

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00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: step forward. It's good. I don't know that's good enough.

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Speaker 1: Like like Tesla's idea about having not just the super

627
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 1: fast charging stations, but also the option to switch out

628
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: a battery if you are on the go. That makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense for people who are used to

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Speaker 1: being able to pull into a gas station and refill

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Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes. It does, but look, I'm

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00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: on gas stations. There are yeah, sure, there are four

633
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: in every corner. Yeah, that's true. It's I don't mean,

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00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean to shoot you down on that idea anything.

635
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: It's quick changing things. They can be far they can

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00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: be a lot fewer and far between. I suppose for

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00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: for the for the battery swaps, the the supercharger stations. However,

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00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: I think those have to be fairly common because a

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00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Tesla right now s the charge times. If you have

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00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: a supercharger station, or I think that's what they call it,

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00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: a supercharger station, it takes you about one hour to

642
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: fully charge the battery, and that's the three mile range.

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00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: But if you don't have a supercharger station, you're just

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Speaker 1: relying on plane old electricity from the wall plug in. Uh,

645
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Speaker 1: you get something like twenty two miles of range for

646
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: every hour of charging. So that's a significant drop in well,

647
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: it's a it's an increase in the time that would

648
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: get somewhere. So I mean for v W to say

649
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: of battery capacity in fifteen minutes, so what's of two

650
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: thirty three miles, that's pretty good. Yeah, no, it's it's

651
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: it's definitely significant. Uh. And you know. They had some

652
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: other cool features on this, including a big display screens

653
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 1: that would replace your typical dashboard, so it was like

654
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of almost like tablets style computers. Um plus

655
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: just your controls, just your controls were huge with cars

656
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: this year. That's that's where you don't even have to

657
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: touch the screen. You can move your hands at a

658
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: certain height and camera will detect the pre stuff your

659
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: hand and then interpret that as a command, so you

660
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: can swipe through options or select something by typically acting

661
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: like you're pushing a button in mid air. That tends

662
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: to be the like you're playing charades or something. Yeah,

663
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, I saw that this is an infrared system,

664
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a cost cutting measure on their

665
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: part because there are other ways to do it as well,

666
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: but this one they claim they're Gonnase infra red just

667
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: to keep cost down. Again, this is not really meant

668
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: to be a production model. It's strictly a show card.

669
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: It's just really to show off the technologies that that

670
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: Volkswagen has been working with, many of which may find

671
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: their way into production vehicles in the future, but not

672
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: necessarily the Buddy itself. You're not gonna find the buddy

673
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: on a on a show floor for you to purchase.

674
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: It's just a rolling test bed at this point. In fact,

675
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: I should say that I suspect at least a few

676
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: of the vehicles on the showroom floor at CS are

677
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: no more than a shell with nothing that actually makes

678
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: the thing go. I think, faaradays, like that, isn't it.

679
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: I remember trying to remember back to our program, and

680
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's not really on a power

681
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: platform at this point. It's all theoretical. Yeah. I do

682
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: not know the answer to that to be able to

683
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: say definitively one way or the other, but it would

684
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: not surprise me. I'll tell you that's not anything brand new.

685
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: Really show cars, even at the big auto shows in

686
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: the past, there have been many times when they have

687
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: to be pushed out on the stage or or they

688
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: have some just really low low power module underneath. It's

689
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: not like what they claim is under the hood. Um,

690
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's just something just to get out on

691
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: the stage for the show and that's about it. Yeah,

692
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: never never look under the hood. I know that one

693
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: of the Toyota fuel cell vehicles was like that, and

694
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: that the chassis they were showing off was a concept,

695
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: but the car underneath it was not actually a fuel

696
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: cell vehicle, whereas the fuel cell vehicle they had on

697
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: display was using a modified Toyota previously existing Toyota model

698
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: as the chassis. So it's just one of those things

699
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: where it's it's like we have the idea, we have

700
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: the technology, we haven't gotten into production yet, so we

701
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: don't have a model that actually works with the technology

702
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: we're talking about fully fully formed. And that's not every case.

703
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been running driving concept cars or what

704
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: they called dream cars for decades, of course, you know,

705
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: since the beginning, but there were always those cases where

706
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: they bring out some just crazy design that doesn't really

707
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: have anything under the hood or anything. And and it

708
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: was kind of a big deal again back in the

709
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: late eighties and early nineties when companies started making running

710
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: driving production rather prototype vehicles, um, all these concept cars,

711
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: and it was kind of like this thing really drives,

712
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's the I think I'm I'm not

713
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: gonna say the first or anything, but I remember like

714
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: hearing about the Viper Dodge Viper, and they're like listening,

715
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: actually drives, we can drive it on the Indian helps

716
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: five under track, like, no, way, that thing actually has

717
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: a V ten and you know they claim it did,

718
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: but it really did. And the Plymouth Prowler, and you know,

719
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: vehicles like that along the way that you thought and

720
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: all the cars that I thought were awesome when I

721
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: was younger. Yes, well that's that's when it's kind of

722
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: the resurgence of like, well, this thing actually does what

723
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: we say it does, is that it's not just a shell. Yeah.

724
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 1: There were some other cool technologies on display to stick

725
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: with a connected car and just your controls. BMW showed

726
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: off their eye Vision Future Interaction Platform, which again is

727
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: another network car. All those commands that you would issue

728
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: to the car can be done by uh, touchscreen or

729
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: by voice control or again by gestures um. And the

730
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: steering wheel actually, did you see the steering wheel on

731
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: this thing with the lights? Okay, so there are three

732
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: different modes of driving this vehicle. There's pure drive, where

733
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: the vehicle is under the control of a human driver,

734
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: at least presumably a human driver. A driver could be

735
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: a dog. Well you would hope it would not be.

736
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: I suppose it could be at this point. Then there

737
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: was assist mode, which was kind of where you have

738
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: that autonomous ability to kick into gear should something go

739
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: wrong to protect the driver and the car. And then

740
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: you had pure autonomous mode or auto mode, and the

741
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: steering wheel would light up to indicate which mode you

742
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: were in. So if you were in automode, it would

743
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: be blue steering wheel like pretty much at the um,

744
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, the three and nine positions up would be

745
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: blue like up to the top. And then if you

746
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: wanted to switch over to pure drive, the lights would

747
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: start to fade down from the top to the sides

748
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: so that it would be an alert saying, hey, you

749
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: should probably put your hands on the wheel now because

750
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: here where the blue light is so so. And then

751
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: before it would switch to pure drive mode, the lights

752
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: turn red to indicate, hey, seriously, take the wheel. I'm

753
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: not in control anymore. All right, let me tell you something. Yeah,

754
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: I got a major problem with this car. This is

755
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: kind of way you invited me here. It was one

756
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: of the minutes, the moment right here, because this could

757
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: be a moment. Let me tell you, all right, this

758
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: is the so, this is the BMW I eight they

759
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: have modified. There's no doors in this car. There's no

760
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: hood on this car, I mean roof on this car.

761
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: But um, but inside is where all this technologies happen.

762
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: And you get it, that's what the showcases. They want

763
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: you to have a clear, unobstructive view of that. So

764
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: I get it. What I almost cannot believe I'm hearing

765
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: from BMW, which by the way, used to be called, uh,

766
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: the ultimate driving machine, right, okay, the ultimate driving machine.

767
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: Now here's what. Here's what this says. BMW's latest technology

768
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: reduces the amount of driver control to a minimum in

769
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: order to simplify driving, and driving can be stressful for some.

770
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: And that's when it goes into the three modes. Come on.

771
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: This is part of the stuff that they that they're

772
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, this is their message. I get it. There's okay,

773
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: and we're all going there. Some of us are are screaming.

774
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: And but this company in particular, and I understand. I

775
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: understand that. You know that they have to keep up,

776
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: that they have to remain relevance. I get That's why

777
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: they're doing it. So I'm not I'm not that old

778
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: that I don't understand that. I really do. They have

779
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: to remain relevant, they have to they have to sell product, right,

780
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: So that's what they're doing. I get it. But for

781
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: a company that that claims to be the ultimate drive machine,

782
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: and they are known for building cars that drivers really

783
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: really enjoy. They pay a premium to drive a BMW

784
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: because of the experience. It's a driver's car, and there's

785
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: certain vehicles. You could expect that out of Porsche as well. Uh,

786
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, you expect a certain experience when you get

787
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: behind the wheel, and this is removing all that. You're

788
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: just saying, I want the I want the brand name.

789
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to be this I eight or whatever platform

790
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: they put it in, but I don't really want to

791
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: do anything. I don't want to experience that anymore. I'd

792
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: rather just sit back and read a book maybe while

793
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: I go to work. Why not take the train it start?

794
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: It sounds to me like a glorious future. But let

795
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: see the problem is your listeners have come to expect

796
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: this kind of rant from me, So get you on

797
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: the show. But honest, really, I mean, really think about it.

798
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: I mean, this is supposed to be a driver's cards.

799
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's an odd move from this manufacturer.

800
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: That's all on SAE well, and to be fair, I

801
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: mean they do still have the pure drive mode where

802
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're relying on that to to

803
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: continue there there kind of their slogan about the driving

804
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: experience while still also investing in these technologies that if

805
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: they don't really look into that, they will literally be

806
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: left behind. And I understand that not every vehicle is

807
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: going to receive this type of treatment. And they've got

808
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: the rest of the product line, and if you look

809
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: at BMW's page, you'll see that they have a lot

810
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: of different products that are in fact a lot of

811
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: fun to drive. Alright, we got a little bit more

812
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: to say on this topic before we get to that, though,

813
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Let's take another quick break. Did you happen to see

814
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: the demonstration of their self parking technology for for the alright, So,

815
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: so BMW has shown off self parking a couple of times,

816
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: like it's not like it's brand new, except that this

817
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: year they showed off that they had a new way

818
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: to interact with self parking because usually you would get

819
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: out of your car, you might have a button on

820
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: your key fob that says park and you would press

821
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: it in the car would pull itself into a parking slot.

822
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: Very impressive, you know, you know, yeah, and you can

823
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: even maybe with something like Alexa have voice control where

824
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: you could say park the car and then jump out

825
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 1: and it would probably a car that would be cool too.

826
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: BMW decided to go the air controller route. But just

827
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: your controls. You can actually just your to your car

828
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: to take a to take a spot, and to to

829
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: move the car while you're outside of it to go

830
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: and park. Really yeah, they actually showed off. They had

831
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: journalists sit in the passenger side, no one in the

832
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: driver's seat, have a BMW representative standing there gesturing to

833
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: the car and to the parking space, and the car

834
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: would maneuver over into the parking I got to ask

835
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: you this, do you have to have those flashlights with

836
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: the cones on the end to do this? You have

837
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: to have them, but I think it presents a certain

838
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: element of style. I absolutely would plus the giant ear

839
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: mud right exactly. You know, the BMW dengines can get loud,

840
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: so you want to be able to protect your ears.

841
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's that's that's a shock to me.

842
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: I I'll have to seek a video of this because

843
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: I've got to see somebody directing their car as if

844
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: it's an airplane into a potet. I think it was.

845
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: I want to say it was the Verge where I

846
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: saw the video demonstration of this particular technology. I should

847
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: go on to say I didn't get a chance to

848
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: see this personally. This was something that I saw after

849
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I got back. This is one of the most frustrating

850
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: things about attending CES is you get to see a

851
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: lot of really cool stuff. But when you come back,

852
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: you see all this really cool stuff that you didn't

853
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: have a chance to experience yourself. There's just no way.

854
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: There's no no, there is absolutely no way. And like

855
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: even if you spent every single second running from thing

856
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: to thing, you would still miss stuff. Um. So next

857
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: we have Kia, which normally I think I wouldn't have

858
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: even wouldn't have even registered with me. But again Kia

859
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: again moving on this this same sort of autonomous car bandwagon,

860
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I guess you could call it. UM introduced its drive

861
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: Wise platform. Yeah, on the Soul e V platform. Right, So, uh,

862
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's in a product that they currently build,

863
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: which makes sense. It's not like they're bringing out some

864
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: concept vehagle that's a you know, pie in the sky

865
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: idea that maybe will never happen. They're saying, now we're

866
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna put it into our actual product right here's what here,

867
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: here's what we have available right now that it works in. Yeah,

868
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: and so right now, it's kind of a a advanced

869
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: driver assistance system or ADS. It's one of those where

870
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: again similar to what I was talking about with Toyota,

871
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: with with pretty much every do you like, it's this

872
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: idea of a computer assisting a driver, normally just to

873
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: intervene when there's something that the driver has not noticed

874
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: or has it doesn't have the time to react to

875
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: him or herself. So this is a partially autonomous system,

876
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: right because they've got to release dates. Yes, this was

877
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: me the earlier one, the earlier one which is scheduled

878
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: to debut in and another full ten years beyond that.

879
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: So when is when they're gonna come out with the

880
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: fully autonomous version. That's what they're projecting right now. I think, honestly, Scott,

881
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: if I have to be like, if you nailed me down,

882
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: I'd have to say I think a lot of these

883
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: car companies are purposefully being conservative with those guesses. I

884
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: totally agree. I think I think certain companies that are

885
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: not car companies, like Google, are really pushing the envelope

886
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: as far as the autonomous car technology goes to the

887
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: point where there will be enough demand from the consumer,

888
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: are for some of those dates to get moved up.

889
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: And I just think a lot of the car companies

890
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: are trying to do two things. One, they want to

891
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: make sure that they give themselves enough time to really

892
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: develop the technology so that the vehicles they put out

893
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: are safe. Nobody wants the autonomous car version of the

894
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: clean diesel scandal, because that's a version where people will

895
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: lose their lives. So obviously there's that, And I think

896
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: the other one is just that there's this fear, a

897
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 1: well founded one. I would argue that the autonomous car

898
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: future is also going to be the future where fewer

899
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: people own personal vehicles. Yeah, no argument for me on

900
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: those points. I think that's really gonna happen. I think

901
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to jump on this

902
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: and want that. And I think that manufacturers are kind

903
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: of hedging their beds a little bit insane, and we're

904
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna be fully autonomous. But I wouldn't be surprised if

905
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: that date moves up by five years. I mean a

906
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: long long way. It's kind of that under promise over

907
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: delivery thing, right, I mean, you don't want to say

908
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: in we're gonna have a fully autonomous line and it's

909
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: going to be fantastic, and the rolls around you look

910
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: back at that new story and then you, you know,

911
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: kind of press Kia and say, well where the fully

912
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: autonomos vehicles and they have to kind of put their

913
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, head down and say, well, kick quite where? Yeah,

914
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in five more years. I think I

915
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: think part of it is also the idea that if

916
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: you'd go with the driver assist route rather than the

917
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: fully autonomous route, you can keep that culture of personal

918
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: car ownership going longer, right because people will be interested

919
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: in driving with these kind of vehicles. It's when you

920
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: go the fully autonomous route where one vehicle price gets

921
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: so high that the average person starts to have trouble

922
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: affording one and two. There's less need to have one

923
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: in densely populated areas. Obviously, in rural areas that's a

924
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: totally different story. But but in cities where you could

925
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: presume presumably get a service going with electric or not

926
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: even electric, but fully autonomous vehicles, um, then there's very

927
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: little reason to own your own desk. See I totally

928
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: understand that there's a time and place for this tepeon thing,

929
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: and really it does work in some situations. Other situations

930
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: there's just no way that it would work. There's certain

931
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: people that this type of this type of idea, this

932
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: car sharing idea, this uh um, even even e V

933
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: cars at this point the way they are right now

934
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't work for a lot of people. But for a

935
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: lot of people they do. And it's a great thing.

936
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: And I get the move to autonomous and people's excitement

937
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: around it, but um, I don't think it's ever gonna

938
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: go either way. Yeah, I I used to be gung

939
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: ho autonomous, but I've eased off on that a little

940
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: bit just because I recognize there are I'm thinking of

941
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: it too narrowly, right, I'm thinking of it from my perspective,

942
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: my own personal experience of using vehicles. For me, it

943
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense pretty much all the time. But there

944
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: are plenty of outliers that you would say, all right, well, know,

945
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: personal ownership is never going to completely go away, not

946
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: as long as we still have people living outside of

947
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: urban areas, and presumably that's going to continue. Um. But

948
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: to get back to Kia, I want to ask you this,

949
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: did you happen to look at their blind control system.

950
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: It's a fingerprint scanner that identifies the driver, and then

951
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: as you drive the vehicle, the vehicle begins to learn

952
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: your style, and it learns what temperature you like to

953
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: keep the car, and what stations you tend to listen

954
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: to and UH and other ways that you actually handle

955
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: the vehicle while you're driving it, and it builds a

956
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: profile that's personalized to you. And then if someone else

957
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: drives the car and scans their fingerprint, they get a profile.

958
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: And then every time you drive the car afterward, when

959
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: you scan, it knows it's you, automatically adjusts all those

960
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: settings so that you get the driving experience you want

961
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: and the other driver gets the driving experience it's they want. Now,

962
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: there have been very analog versions of this along the way.

963
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: You can say this is this is driver one, driver

964
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: to driver three and hit the button and the seat

965
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: changes position, the steering wheel chages position, the temperature, controls,

966
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: the radio stations, all that I get it. But this

967
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: is doing it with with fingerprint technology. Um, that's pretty interesting,

968
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: and you know, it's kind of reminds me of the

969
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: way that the houses, as smart houses can adapt to

970
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: the way, and you know, they know that at a

971
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: certain time you come up from work and you want

972
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: the temperature to certain setting. You want this light on,

973
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: but not that one. And then later in the evening

974
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: turned that one off, turned that one on, and right

975
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: it starts to learn your patterns and and things like that.

976
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: I can see these two things working together. It's like,

977
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: not pretty soon, you're just gonna be able to walk.

978
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to walk through life without every

979
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: having to push another button or flip another switch. Yeah,

980
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: I've always I've always mentioned this as uh, you know,

981
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: it will come down to a conversation between you and

982
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: another person about what's your reality like? Because here, here's

983
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: what my reality is like, because everything is customizing itself

984
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: to my convenience, my comfort, my preferences. So what's yours like?

985
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Because I bet you are a little different from me,

986
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: and I'm curious what how you experience life compared to

987
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: how I experienced life. That's gonna be a real conversation

988
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: in a few years. And it's strange, isn't it that

989
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: you won't have that you won't have the same environment

990
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: that you you share really because everything will be so

991
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: as you said tailored, I guess to custom fit to you.

992
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so different. It's really it's really weird

993
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: to think, like you you won't have to again flip

994
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: the sweet. You won't if you do anything manually practically anymore.

995
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 1: I do think smart thermostats are gonna have to start

996
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: seeking therapy for families like mine, where the preference is

997
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: a matter of a couple of degrees and it's it's

998
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: hotly contested territory. Yeah, I can understand that our is

999
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: the switch on the side is almost worn out by

1000
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of

1001
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: the same for us. When we come back, Scott and

1002
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: I will end up concluding our discussion about high tech

1003
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: at high speed after these messages. So we kind of

1004
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: mentioned Fair Day Future already, and you guys, like I said,

1005
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: did a full episode on it. Yeah, I mean, I've

1006
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: got I've got some I've got a pile of notes

1007
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: here on this whole thing. So you've you've seen this

1008
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: in person. I haven't. I've only read about it, and

1009
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, kind of get the the idea that some

1010
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: people thought it was really fantastic, and other reviewers went

1011
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: in and said, this is absolutely ridiculous. I don't know

1012
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: what they're doing bringing this car to the show because

1013
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with what the company is really.

1014
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: What the what the real messages here? Yeah? I I

1015
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: well it didn't in a way, but it but it

1016
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: wasn't a good representation of what they're gonna do, right,

1017
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: So the representation is similar to what we were talking

1018
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: about with Volkswagen. This modular approach to building, designing and

1019
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: building vehicles, where you have a basic design that you

1020
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: can then modify for whatever purpose you need, whether it's

1021
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: a subcompact car, a race car, and suv, a truck,

1022
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. You can adjust the foundation and

1023
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: then you have this modular battery system that allows you

1024
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: to add or remove batteries depending upon what vehicle it

1025
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: is that you're planning on building. So subcntact compact cars

1026
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: don't need as much battery power, essay, a race car.

1027
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: I think they called it strings of batteries, didn't they.

1028
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: You can you can adjust the size of the string

1029
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: of batteries, right, Yeah, And they had a cool video

1030
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: that sort of showed the concept from very high level.

1031
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: But I like the idea a lot because it allows

1032
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: for rapid development and prototyping. I mean that the car

1033
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: that they had on display did not exist eighteen months ago.

1034
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: It's a killer car, by the way. I love it.

1035
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: It looks like it's going fast while's sitting still. That's awesome.

1036
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: I really do like it. Good design. I I as

1037
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: soon as I'm not a Scott you know, I'm not

1038
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: a car guy. That's not me. I wanted to get

1039
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: behind the wheel of this car. When I saw it,

1040
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: it was just like and you would be the only

1041
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: one able to do that because it's a single seat car.

1042
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: It's so you know, to to drum up excitement, of course,

1043
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: brought out the race car version, Yeah, it was. It

1044
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: was essentially a way of getting attention right. First of all,

1045
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: the brand new company. This company has not been around

1046
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: for very long, mostly mysterious. A lot of people had

1047
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: heard the name but didn't know a whole lot about it.

1048
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: It was getting most of its funding through China, so

1049
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: it's headquartered in Los Angeles, and it's going to have

1050
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: a manufacturing facility in Las Vegas. Uh. These were like

1051
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: the basic things people knew, but no one had seen

1052
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: anything or really knew what what was going on behind

1053
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: the scenes. Found out it was this approach to making

1054
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: electric vehicles. That's their specialty, uh, taking this modular design

1055
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: so they could build any type of electrical vehicle. They

1056
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: have different power train, our drive train uh layouts. They

1057
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: can do so again depending up how what your car needs.

1058
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: If it doesn't need a whole lot of power, then

1059
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: it's got a very simple drive train. If it's gonna

1060
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: need a lot of torque for something where you're gonna

1061
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: be hauling things or you're gonna be driving like an

1062
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: suv and areas. Obviously they would have a different drive

1063
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: train than from a subcombat car. Four motors instead of

1064
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: two or something like. Yeah, yeah, they had. They showed

1065
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: all the different variations where like there was one where

1066
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: it's like one motor attached to one wheel, and I

1067
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: was like, huh okay, they would be a little commuter car.

1068
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: So they also had the ability. They said, well, our designs,

1069
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: one of the things we wanted to work in from

1070
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: the beginning was that if we wanted to make it

1071
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: an autonomous vehicle, we could add that on to the

1072
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: frame as well. So in other words, it's not automatically

1073
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: going to be an autonomous vehicle, but they have the

1074
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: option to make a any particular model, they go into

1075
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: production with an autonomous version of that car. Pretty simple

1076
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: thing in an all electric vehicle. Really yeah, so really

1077
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: cool idea. Uh and the race car obviously was just

1078
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: a way of saying, come and take a look at

1079
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: what we have to show you. And it worked for me.

1080
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: But the problem was when they started interviewing the people

1081
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: that you know, brought this technology out on stage, the

1082
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: ones that we're conducting, you know, the press conference, when

1083
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: they really started drilling down and asking a lot of questions,

1084
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: here's here's the thing they got. They got a lot

1085
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: of uh, well, we don't really know the answer to

1086
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: that yet, but just trust us. It's gonna work out.

1087
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be fine. We we know that we can

1088
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: achieve this as just right now, we don't have the

1089
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: solution that kind of answer. It's a very much an

1090
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: Internet startup approach, and it's an Internet startup approach to

1091
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: an industry that has uh, very deep roots and a

1092
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: very very high barrier to intrigue. In fact, I would

1093
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: say Faraday Future would have had zero chance of success

1094
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: were it not for a little company called Tesla. Sure. Yeah,

1095
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: but you can look at other examples that the people

1096
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: immediately go to. And we've heard the smart listeners on

1097
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: car stuff as well. Um, you know, this looks al

1098
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: awful lot like something like an Elio or even if

1099
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 1: you want to go back farther, UH Tucker or Dale Dale.

1100
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: Dale's a different scenario because that was just complete scam

1101
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: all around right there. There's no way around that one.

1102
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: But but the others Tucker and UH and Elio, and

1103
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: there's been others throughout time as well that have done this.

1104
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: But they bring a real product out and they show

1105
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: you the real product, and they say, all we need

1106
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: is X million number of million dollars to get the

1107
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: first you know, production run, first match of production out there.

1108
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: And then from that point, you know, we can we

1109
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: can you know, take them out and say self, we

1110
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: can sell you a dealership and you can sell these

1111
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: products and then we can create more cars. And that's

1112
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: the way the whole thing works. But they've got to

1113
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: get over that initial hump and this one. Now they've

1114
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: got a huge backing, right, They've got a lot of money, yes,

1115
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: available to them. That doesn't necessarily guarantee success. Anyone who

1116
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: has backed a kickstarter for any kind of technology, UH

1117
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: has probably had the experience at least once of backing

1118
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: something that never ever came to fruition, and whether it

1119
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: was due to someone trying to pull a scam or

1120
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: someone uh underestimating the challenges they would face taking an

1121
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: idea from the concept stage to production or whatever it

1122
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: may be. You always encounter things that you did not

1123
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: anticipate when you first set out. Uh. A lot of

1124
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: people have experienced this disappointment and something that they back

1125
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: not actually coming out, and that's a possibility. Uh. The

1126
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: nice thing is it's someone else's money in the case

1127
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: of Faraday Future, so I'm okay with this, that's true.

1128
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like in the case of Elio Motors, that's

1129
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: that's the most recent one. You know that we've we've

1130
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: been dealing with, is that you know, people are sending

1131
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: in you know, hundred bucks, two hundred bucks, five hundred

1132
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: dollars or whatever. It's kind of a down payment deposit

1133
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: with the idea that that's starting the company and that

1134
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, when they do start producing them, they're gonna

1135
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: get the first pick. You know, they're gonna get the

1136
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: first production run. Uh. You know, they get little little

1137
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: things along the way, you know, Smill incentives I guess

1138
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: for doing that, whether it's bumper stickers or T shirt

1139
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: or something like that. Right, Um, but that company, the

1140
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: hurdle for that company is something like two hundred and

1141
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: fifty or three hundred million dollars and that's what it

1142
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: would take to get that company to start producing car

1143
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: is right now. Probably some other things too at this point,

1144
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: because it's some time has passed. But but this one,

1145
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: this is all being funded by one individual and it's

1146
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: it's the I laugh when I see this, But it's

1147
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: the Chinese version of Steve Jobs. That's what the that's

1148
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: how he's described now he has he's the founder of

1149
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: uh I guess the Chinese version of Netflix over there, right,

1150
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: So he's got a lot of money, this guy, he's

1151
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: a billionaire. But he's not going to throw all of

1152
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: his money behind this whole thing. Of course, he's gonna

1153
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: put some money behind it, but he's got deep pockets.

1154
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: Is this gonna make it? Because they're talking about putting

1155
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: a factory in it's again a billion dollar facility north

1156
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: of Las Vegas. They're gonna break around on that. I

1157
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: believe it was at the end of this month, if

1158
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: not next month. Um, so it's it's happening soon. Do

1159
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: you really see this thing going anywhere? Do you think

1160
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it? Are they gonna come out, you know,

1161
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: the week before and say like, well there's been a

1162
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: delay and we're gonna do it, um at the end

1163
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: of this year. Uh, without having seen any of the

1164
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: actual inner workings of the But it's really hard for

1165
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: me to say. I can say I want them to

1166
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: to succeed so badly simply because I think it could

1167
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: be a truly disruptive approach to the automotive industry. And

1168
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: by disruptive, I don't mean like a dangerous thing or

1169
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: a destructive thing, but rather something that shakes stuff up

1170
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: enough that we start seeing crazy innovation across all manufacturers.

1171
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see, and I want to

1172
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: see I want to see all boats rise. Like I

1173
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: don't have a grudge against any particular company. Um. I mean,

1174
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: I definitely wagged my finger at Volkswagen for the clean

1175
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: diesel thing, but but it's you know, that's more of

1176
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: a a emotional reaction to that scandal. But I want

1177
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: to see everybody benefit, um. And I would hate to

1178
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: see this be an example of an Internet startup that

1179
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: got a lot of hype and then collapsed in on itself. Now,

1180
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: Steve Ben and I had a similar thought on our

1181
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: show and we talked about it on Car Stuff. We said,

1182
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, we really want we we truly do want

1183
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: them to succeed. This would be fantastic for development, as

1184
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: you said, you know it would. It would push things

1185
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: along considerably. But with all the examples, the history that

1186
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: we've had that we've we've seen, We've talked about on

1187
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: our show so many times, it's like, you can you

1188
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: can remain hopeful but be skeptical to awesome. Yes, there's good,

1189
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: good reason to employ critical thinking. Sure, yeah, yeah, I

1190
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: mean this thing may or may not end up being

1191
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: kind of vaporware, but I hope not. I'm really I'm

1192
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: really hoping for the best in this. I want to

1193
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: ride and I mean the future. If you're listening, I

1194
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: want a ride. Well, that's that's something we didn't mention.

1195
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: That's that's their race car version. It's like the top

1196
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: ends thing that they can produce. But but the reality

1197
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: is their road testing a vehicle right now that no

1198
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: one's seen. They They've got a secret card that's out

1199
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: there testing somewhere. So if you see a car go

1200
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: by that you don't recognize and there's no marking on it,

1201
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: that might be them. It could be them. So they're

1202
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: out there somewhere testing this platform, and you probably somewhere

1203
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: in California or Nevada. Yeah, it seems like those states

1204
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: are you know, a little more loose with their you know,

1205
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: the allowances. I guess yeah, yeah, um yeah. I I

1206
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: would be interested to see what they're gonna come up

1207
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: with for the production vehicle and will it kind of

1208
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: be like a what's that sad trombone moment? You know

1209
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: when you see it, uh, versus the race car that

1210
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: they showed at the c S show. I mean, it's

1211
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: it's it's like, you know, it's good that they did

1212
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: that to get the excitement. They promised you this, but

1213
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 1: they gave you this. That kind of thing. Well kind

1214
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: of yeah, I mean you're gonna you know, you're gonna

1215
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: be just a little bit disappointed, Like, oh man, I

1216
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: was really hoping for that single seater, the zero one concept,

1217
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: that car that probably would have cost around three hundred

1218
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. It's like a batmobile or something. It's so

1219
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 1: it's pretty wicked. It is the people on the floor

1220
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: they were say they preferred to think of it as

1221
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: the car out of Minority Report. Oh yeah, okay, I

1222
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: can see that a little bit. Yeah, all right, Um,

1223
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: you know there's another one that you wanted to mention,

1224
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: the last one that Sherry on top of this Sunday. Yeah,

1225
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: and this one leaves me with my head chacken, I

1226
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: I understand what this this uh, this builder does. This

1227
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: is WRIN Speed, Yes, Rin Speed, and the vehicle we're

1228
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: talking about the concept at any rate is the ets Yeah.

1229
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: And also we should mention the Atas is actually a

1230
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: BMW I eight based concept car, of course. Yeah, so

1231
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: the latest greatest from BMW. But what they've done with it,

1232
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I understand everything

1233
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: that they're trying to achieve with this car. But I mean,

1234
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: Rin Speed has done a lot of cool concepts in

1235
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: the past, and you know they've got sure, someone has

1236
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: some questionable features and things. But when I look at

1237
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: this one, the ETAs, Yeah, it's got a lot of

1238
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: questionable features. So yeah, let's talk about some of them.

1239
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: For one thing, the interface that they have is is

1240
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: encased in two twenty one and a half inch curved

1241
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: four K displays four K resolution, Scott. I mean, granted,

1242
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: you are pretty close to those displays when you're a driver, right,

1243
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that far away from you. And

1244
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: in fact, four K resolution is insane to me because

1245
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: those displays would need to be enormous and you'd have

1246
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: to be even closer to appreciate the sharpness in that resolution.

1247
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe four K is necessary when ten AD

1248
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: would have sufficed. However, that's nitpicking. So let's say that

1249
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: you're driving this this crazy concept, this this variation on

1250
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: the BMW I eight. Uh, You're driving around and you're

1251
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: you've got this nice steering wheel, it's got its own

1252
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: little panel right in the middle of it, and you

1253
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna hand over control to my car. You

1254
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: press a little button, the steering wheel folds in on itself, Scott,

1255
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: and then it ch tracks into the dashboard so it

1256
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: goes away. So that okay, that's That's one of the

1257
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: things that left me shake in my head. Like most

1258
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: of these systems, even most of them, recognize the idea

1259
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: that there's going to be a point when human interaction

1260
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be necessary. And we're gonna alert you

1261
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: with a chime or lights, as you said on the

1262
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: one steering most of the again the BMW Right, Okay,

1263
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: most manufacturers still get that that you know there's going

1264
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: to be a point where you're gonna want to take

1265
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: control or the car will say, I don't know if

1266
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: I can handle this, grab the wheel, push shaws as

1267
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: written speed. Yeah, so you know that's I mean, I

1268
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: watched it happen in the video video clip and it's

1269
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: not a fast motion for it to come back out.

1270
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: It's it's cool, it is, it's cool. It's interesting to watch.

1271
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: But the idea also of a folding steering wheel, that's

1272
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: another thing that makes me cringe just a little bit.

1273
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's not a great design. Really. Yeah,

1274
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: the two if you think of a wheel, think of it, uh,

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Speaker 1: divide the wheel in half, and the top half and

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: bottom half fold down along the column, the steering column,

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Speaker 1: and the whole thing where tracks back into the dashboard,

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01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: so that you are freed up to read a book.

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Speaker 1: Essentially like it looks like the like the passenger side

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Speaker 1: of the vehicle at that point, really it really does.

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01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: And the two displays extend forward so that you can

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Speaker 1: get more immersed in whatever, you know, entertainment like playing

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: on your dashboard, you can get a lot closer to that.

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Speaker 1: Four KOs appreciated a lot more when it's when when

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Speaker 1: it's when it approaches you by five inches, when it's

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Speaker 1: eight inches away from your eye. So uh and the

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Speaker 1: other thing, now, this just kind of made me laugh

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: in the video. I don't know why this was was

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Speaker 1: featured in here, but there's a couple of things more

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Speaker 1: but um, when when they were showing the autonomous capability, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had the car at a track in Spain, a

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Speaker 1: racetrack in Spain, and they clearly had a time, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lap time, a lap time from a human driver

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Speaker 1: on the screen. So it's it's got you know, an

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Speaker 1: interface allows you to record lap times and it's really cool,

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Speaker 1: a map of the track and everything best you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of a best time with a little award, you know,

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Speaker 1: a silver copper with It's almost equivalent to like a

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Speaker 1: video game, except this is a real car that you're

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Speaker 1: driving around a real track. Yeah. Sure, and we've seen

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Speaker 1: that stuff, you know in other cars. We get that,

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, they've got stuff like that. You know, they

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: can measure times and speeds and all that. But this

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Speaker 1: one was showing like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: the autonomous UH feature take over and drive around this

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Speaker 1: racetrack in Spain. And then that's when the driver decided

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Speaker 1: to grab a book from the from what it looks

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01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: like a bookshelf on the passenger side. That thing was

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01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: always loaded with books. So while they're driving around this

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Speaker 1: racetrack in Spain, the driver's reading a book. And I

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01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,479
Speaker 1: know that's to prove a point that he's not touched

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Speaker 1: on the wheel, that there's no interaction there. But the car,

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: of course, best of the human driver's time was much faster,

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: or a little bit faster anyways. But I just thought

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: that was so odd to see him doing that, you know,

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: like to be on a racetrack of all places I

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01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: can get if you're on a boring can mute or

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01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: so clearly he was trying to psych out the robot

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01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: car to show how how little interest he had in

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: the robot car's performance. I thought, you're gonna say other

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01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: drivers competing against like I'm just gonna let it take over,

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna I'm gonna read my cough cut here.

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: Did you get my point though? I mean, of all

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01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: places you're gonna want to see, I mean, you're just

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01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna want to pay attention and watch what's going on

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: because it's exciting, it's thrilling. It's not like you're just going,

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, between downtown Atlanta and home. Sure, let's be fair,

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: could sometimes be exciting. Uh. It also uses Microsoft's Cortana

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: concierge service, so this is similar to Ford and Alexa.

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Speaker 1: Uh Cortana, I would argue, Well, I mean I I've

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01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: used Cortana a little bit because I've got Windows ten

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01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: on my computer at home and Cortana is incorporated into

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01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: Windows ten. Sound fancy. I've used it a little bit,

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: but I'm still very much a keyboard and mouse kind

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01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: of guy, so I don't tend to talk to my

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: computer unless something has gone wrong and the words I'm

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: saying are not words that the concierge is going to

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: help me with. I talked to my laptop here at

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: work all the time. And uh wait, I'm glad it

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: can't record. That's that's a good good thing. Wait I can't,

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: can it? I don't think so, at least unless some

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: malware has been put on there. But the real reason

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01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: we had to add this, besides all the ridiculous autonomous

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01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: car features and and the fact that uh Cortana is incorporated,

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: is that this particular car also has a landing pad

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: on the back of it for a d j I drone. Yeah,

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: this was probably the biggest head scratcher for me. What

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01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: is the point of that drone? Well, the drone can

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01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: fly along while you're driving and take video of you

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01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: driving your really kick ass BMW I a concept car. Well,

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: I agree, that is a cool thing to be able

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01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: to do. I get it. You don't necessarily need to

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: have a landing pad and a matching drone. I guess

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01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: you could just get one at toys or Us or something,

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: or at the local Harby Harby store. But they did

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01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: show it to something that was kind of cool. Now,

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: in the video, it's kind of a silly setup, right,

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a male female females flying the drone

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: in some kind of looks like they're in a warehouse

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, it's a big circular room where there's

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: a there's a staircase that's on the internal curved wall

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: that goes up. So some very weird looking space where

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: the car is parked in the center of it, but

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: it's open to the to the air, you know, there's

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01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: an open top. So the guy climbs back into the car,

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01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: and the car alerts him, Hey, it's Valentine's Day. Wouldn't

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: you like to get some roses for your wife? And

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01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: then he just says the word roses and that sends

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01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: a signal to the drone that the woman is currently

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 1: controlling with a with a remote control, and the drone

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01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 1: ends up going into auto mode and flies off, sending

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01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: the woman into a fit. A fit. Yes, she is

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: quite upset that she has lost control of this, and

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01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: she she confronts her husband, who takes off his glasses,

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: his sunglasses, puts one uh one stem of the sunglasses

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01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: in his mouth and shrugs is to say, hey, what

1377
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Things happen, and then they go

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01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: down the stairs to get into their autonomous sports car

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01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: of the future. When the drone returns with a bouquet

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01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: of roses that it has picked up from a delivery service.

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01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 1: It was like a like a messenger drone. I right

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01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: it it went out and it's it's sought the nearest floors,

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: which was, I believe on the screen it said four

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 1: point one miles away, something like a long long distance,

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: so it went out got them or no, it was

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01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: four minutes away, four and a half minutes and a

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01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: half minutes right. So he attaches a bouquet of roses

1388
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 1: and it brings him right back to her and everything

1389
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: is just every smoothed over. At that point she gives

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: him a hug her her one foot comes off the ground,

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: you know, and classic hug posed. Truly, I had it.

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Speaker 1: I had a tear at that point. I felt something. Um, yeah,

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was a it was a funny video

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01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: to watch. I actually really enjoyed it. Um. I mean,

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: I think it's ridiculous is probably too strong a word.

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01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: It's certainly whimsical. Let's say whimsical. That's nice. It's it's

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: it's worth watching. It's it's interesting to see you as

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01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: and also as proof of concept of certain technologies. It's

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01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: really cool. I mean, I I agree with you. I

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01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: don't think that the autonomous approach as as awesome as

1401
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,959
Speaker 1: this automated thing where the steering calum retracts into the dashboard,

1402
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: as awesome, as visual as that is, I don't think

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01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: it's terribly practical. For one thing, it's a couple of

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01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: different points of failure in a system that doesn't need

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01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: any points of failure. Right. If anything goes wrong and

1406
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: then you switch to manual and something some connection has

1407
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: been severed as a result of this process, that's bad.

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01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: But I did think that the whole thing was very

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01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 1: fun and I like the approach, Like the forward thinking

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: nature of the video was was really cool and forward thinking.

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01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: It's like that tattoo can see in your neck, you know,

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01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: that's how they track me. Um So, at any rate,

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: this was this was a lot of fun to talk

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: to you about. The technology that was on displayed c Yes,

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01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: obviously very different from the underlying technology that actually makes

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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: cars work. You know, we're not talking necessarily about motors

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: or you know, transmissions or that kind of stuff. This

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01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: is all add on stuff. It's like, how can I

1419
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: make an app, uh, make that system better? And and again,

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 1: like smart TVs, I think we're finally starting to see

1421
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: that idea mature to a point where it is something

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: that could be marketable as opposed to well, we have

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01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: the ability to throw this in there, let's just do it.

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that classic episode from It was

1425
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: great having Scott on the show. Scott has moved on

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: to other endeavors and actually a completely lost touch with him.

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01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: Hope he's doing okay, Love you buddy, but yeah. If

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