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Speaker 1: The official Jets podcast is on the road Bett. It

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Speaker 1: is a team sport, but together at win bet. Eric

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Speaker 1: Gallen here at Watford in South Carolina with Lejay Dosable,

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Speaker 1: former Jets defensive lineman. Now he's working for CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: continues to do Jets content as well. And the head coach,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Saint Louis Battlehaw, that is Anthony beck Lejay,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the wardrobe of AB today.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy out.

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Speaker 2: Here once you're a head coach or a head coach everywhere,

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Speaker 2: so he's got to go out and rips out. Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the bottom layer guys here to

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Speaker 3: bring on my team and get better.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay. So joint practices we got one

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Speaker 1: day in then in clement conditions. It was a stormy

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Speaker 1: morning here in South Carolina. So the Jets practiced non

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Speaker 1: pads here on Thursday. Let's start with Wednesday. Jets get

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Speaker 1: in some good work against the Carolina Panthers. What were

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Speaker 1: your major takeaways? Initially?

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Speaker 3: Does yeah?

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Speaker 2: This just d line is something else. I mean there

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Speaker 2: was one team period where Bryce Young got sacked like

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Speaker 2: six or seven straight plays. Quinn Williams made a Mark

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Speaker 2: on practice. John Franklin Myers. I think the depth of

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Speaker 2: the d line is what I don't want to say,

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Speaker 2: surprises you because we saw it last year.

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Speaker 3: But when you add a guy like Will McDonald and.

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Speaker 2: He even flashing that practice, it shows you that they

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Speaker 2: are the focal point of this defense, right. I love

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Speaker 2: the secondary Sauce Gardner was banged up, didn't practice, but

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Speaker 2: you saw DJ Reid compete.

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Speaker 3: Tony Allen just continues. He is the surprise at camp, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say for everybody, and looks like he's almost solidified

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Speaker 2: that starting job next to Whitehead. I mean, I love

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Speaker 2: his attitude. I think Solid talked about it before practice.

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Speaker 2: He embodies what they want to do on defense on

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Speaker 2: this team, and you just love this energy for a

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Speaker 2: young second year player. Aaron Rodgers is just a widely vet.

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Speaker 2: He just knows where to go with the football, play

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Speaker 2: in and play out. Now, the offensive line did have

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Speaker 2: some struggles. I know a lot of people saw some

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Speaker 2: film from practice, but they continue to try to get

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Speaker 2: better weekend and week out. They played this Saturday. We

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Speaker 2: hope to see them take another step in that game.

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Speaker 2: But those are some of the things that I saw.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, just knowing where to go with the football

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Speaker 2: in this offense, having full command of it. The defensive

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Speaker 2: line just wreaking have it, and I love what I

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Speaker 1: Ab I feel fortunate to be able to watch Rogers

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Speaker 1: because he makes a couple throws in practice that are

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Speaker 1: just incredible, like today, hits Malik Teller up the sidelines

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Speaker 1: despite DJ Reid having great coverage, and he's so controlled,

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Speaker 1: so poised. He's a player coach on the field. What

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Speaker 1: you were taking in Jets Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Leger hit it on the head.

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Speaker 3: I mean the operation is smooth, yea yeah, and that

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Speaker 3: makes everybody better, the lineman, the backs, the ball placement

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Speaker 3: when it comes out out of the top of your stem,

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Speaker 3: with the receiver, the tight end, and even for the

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Speaker 3: defensive side to see it. They see it now, they

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Speaker 3: see it real time. How quick it's going to be

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Speaker 3: when you go against some of these great quarterbacks that

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Speaker 3: the fact that you know, I kind of compare it

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Speaker 3: to him, which is good because I see him teaching everybody.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that the things that are glaring

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Speaker 3: It's going to be out in the preseason game. Those

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Speaker 1: How much fun do you think Rogers has happened since

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Speaker 2: I think what t A just said, I mean our

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Speaker 2: know you were talking about it earlier and you were

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Speaker 2: the Malik Taylor throw from yesterday. There was a throw

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Speaker 2: that's the opposite side of his arm strength, right. I

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Speaker 2: giving one of these little you know, Aaron Rodgers fist pumps.

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Speaker 2: It's just what he does at the quarterback. And I

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Speaker 2: don't think we've ever seen here for the New York Jets,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen it, right, And you know, I've been

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Speaker 2: of fresh air. I think you heard coach Albrook talk

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be in the game because we have Number

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Speaker 3: He's our guy.

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Speaker 2: So I think that really what embodies Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 2: what he's meant to this team. And to Tony's point

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Speaker 2: just taking handoffs, his footwork. If he sees something wrong,

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Speaker 2: if Aaron's and this is his own coverage, he's like,

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Speaker 2: I want you to cut it in a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: You see that right there on the field, And that's

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Speaker 1: He's going short with you, Anthony, he's going tony, he's

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Speaker 3: What do you think about. It's a lot of fat,

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Speaker 1: Side and coming to I love it. Ab. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about what Lejay was speaking to before the Jets defensive

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Speaker 3: This is where the guys get their work, the starters.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these joint practices have become kind of the

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Speaker 3: So you know, the preseason games are what they are.

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young you know, you talk about his offensive line,

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Speaker 3: That's the consistent part about what we saw last year

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Speaker 3: So how do those offensive lines solve those problems? I

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Speaker 1: Some guys are content after getting the bag, They say,

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams four years in the National Football League, twenty

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Speaker 1: five years old. I actually see the opposite out of

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Speaker 1: Quentin Williams. He wants to be considered the best defense

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Speaker 1: And against the Panthers he was unblockable.

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Speaker 3: That's the understatement of what he was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you said a lot of guys getting content

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have talked about Aaron

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Speaker 2: see it in the way he works at practice.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: He literally dominated that team period I was talking about

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Speaker 2: started off with the sack. They're two minute Jriil first

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Speaker 2: played a two minute sack. He could not be blocked

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Speaker 2: one on one pass rush. They had no answers for him.

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Speaker 2: So I love that that's his mindset again because a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys can get a little comfortable, and Saalah

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Speaker 2: before practice, like you want to watch guys, and you

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Speaker 2: know guys that get their money and get their bag,

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Speaker 2: see if they get a little comfortable. But you haven't

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Speaker 2: seen that from Quinn Williams. If anything, We've seen them

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Speaker 3: inside out to get better. If you have to. Yeah,

435
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 3: I think I think. You know with Brown coming back,

436
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,359
Speaker 3: he's in the right track. He's just staple. He stays healthy.

437
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 3: And now you have three guys that can kind of

438
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 3: operate at the right hand side, uh, with the with

439
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 3: the safety valve, attucker, then now you're you're in good shape.

440
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 3: So it's a build up process. Man, It's never going

441
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 3: to look good all the time. It's just got to

442
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 3: look good when we start the season. So once the

443
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 3: season starts, hopefully those guys are locked in and everybody

444
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 3: feels good about what they're doing.

445
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts there, Because Dwayne Brown is a

446
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: workout warrior. We saw him out on the practice field, yes, Jack,

447
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 1: but Sala was clear about there's a difference between being

448
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: in shape for the gym and the beach, you know,

449
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: but he's after it. But part of it, he said,

450
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: the rehab has to do with the shoulder part of

451
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 1: it's just the conditioning. He didn't want to put a

452
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 1: timetable on it. Where are you at as far as

453
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 1: the tackle position? And then Avt?

454
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing with Avt's versatility, you can move

455
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 2: him around.

456
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Speaker 3: Right.

457
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,479
Speaker 2: This guy started a left tackle, which I didn't think

458
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: was gonna happen in Denver week, didn't surrender a pressure

459
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,199
Speaker 2: and it was dominant until he had the injury.

460
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Speaker 3: So you have that versatility.

461
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Speaker 2: I agree with ab here, like next week is the

462
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Speaker 2: barometer where you need to decide what you're gonna do

463
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: moving forward, Like you need two solid three weeks of

464
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: that starting five to know in your head who's gonna

465
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 2: be starting here. That way, these guys get comfortable with

466
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and the text and also moving together because

467
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: if you do got to move some chest pieces around,

468
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: you want them to build that continuity with their guard

469
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 2: on the inside.

470
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Speaker 3: You know how important that is.

471
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: You got to be able to know what your guard

472
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: is thinking, especially when guys make inside moves. If you

473
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: guys slide into the right, doesn't he have your back

474
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Speaker 2: or not? So you have to implement that on the

475
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Speaker 2: practice fields. I think what Ab said is the smartest

476
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Speaker 2: way to approach this. After that Tampa Bay Cross practice week,

477
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 2: you figure out, all right, this is what we have.

478
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: We'll see where.

479
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know why I'm having a brain

480
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: for Brown is at that situation. If he's ready to go, great,

481
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: we leave a VT inside because I believe he can

482
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: be an all pro at god, I think he could

483
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 2: be at Pro Bowl type writer or left tackle, but

484
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 2: I believe he's best suited to stay inside. So I

485
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: believe after that week they'll make a final decision. But

486
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Speaker 2: to a solid point with you know, Dwayne Brown, like,

487
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: you can be in shape, but there's nothing like football

488
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: safe and the only way to get in football shape

489
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 2: is to go out there and practice. So he needs

490
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Speaker 2: a solid veterancy to solid two weeks a good work

491
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Speaker 2: to feel comfortable enough. Yeah, there's nothing like getting those

492
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Speaker 2: practice reps. And you can speak to this. You can

493
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Speaker 2: you can be a workout war you can look good,

494
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: look apart, but it's a lot different when there's a

495
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Speaker 2: two one hundred and sixty five pound man coming with

496
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: speed to power, coming with a spin move right away,

497
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: top club. You need those reps. Your body has to

498
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: respond to those reps. There's a callous that you have

499
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Speaker 2: to build up to get ready for the same.

500
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Speaker 3: Dwayne Brown knows that. Hey, he knows like, hey, I

501
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: gotta start. I gotta start being out there now, like

502
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Speaker 3: I have to get out there wherever he's at, wherever

503
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Speaker 3: he's feeling. He knows he's going to need it personally

504
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: because he's been doing it for so long. What it's

505
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: going to take his body to be there outside of

506
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Speaker 3: just throwing medicine balls and doing all that.

507
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Speaker 1: Everybody on offense is excited about Rogers' arrival. Well, let's

508
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Speaker 1: talk about your position. A guy that we've seen targeted

509
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Speaker 1: frequently the last few days of practice is c j Uzama.

510
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: The Jets also have a highly athletic, I think mismatch

511
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: problem at Tyler Conklin. We saw him be productive last year.

512
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: They're also talking up Jeremy Rucker because he's coming off

513
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Speaker 1: as really truly a true first professional off season. What

514
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Speaker 1: do you think about the tight end group and also

515
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Speaker 1: the backs coming out of the backfield, how involved they're

516
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Speaker 1: going to be in the past game.

517
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be huge. If you look at Nathaniel Hacketts

518
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: background with the tight ends, you look at Aaron Rodgers

519
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: what he did in Green Bay, You're gonna get the ball.

520
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: You know, CJ has a chance to get more opportunities.

521
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 3: Conklin clearly is going to be a guy that's going

522
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: to get a lot of looks. He's a good route runner,

523
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: he knows space and he's not going to be missed

524
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Speaker 3: when the when the routes are built to get to

525
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Speaker 3: get him the football. I do, like Rcord, I think

526
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Speaker 3: you know, he is posing a really good threat for

527
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Speaker 3: more playing time. You know, he can do a lot

528
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Speaker 3: and he was at a place in college where he

529
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Speaker 3: couldn't get as much because of the people that were

530
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Speaker 3: around them. From from a talent standpoint, when you're talking

531
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Speaker 3: about play action game rollouts, nakeds, that's that's huge part

532
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Speaker 3: of what Nathaniel Hackett's going to do. And those little

533
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: pop passes that it tight, they're gonna get them, and

534
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Speaker 3: they're gonna get those over routes and they're gonna they're

535
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: gonna find ways in the red zone to get on

536
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Speaker 3: the ball. So look for the numbers collectively to really

537
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: jump this year, just because a quarterback that just gets

538
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 3: the understanding of what the value is in that position.

539
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: These guys got to be on it because the ball's

540
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Speaker 3: coming their way.

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Speaker 1: He's amazing to watch as far as his ball handwings

542
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: concern and what he does in the play action because

543
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: still at thirty nine, he could get out on the

544
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: move a little bit and he's comfortable being on the move,

545
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: and you talked about that before, but just his skills

546
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Speaker 1: with the play action game, it's really fun to watch.

547
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Speaker 2: It's crazy, right because if you try to blitz some

548
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: he knows where you're coming from, and they've had things

549
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: literally and he has it built in where the tight ends,

550
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: running backs, and receivers are all on one accord where

551
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: they know they just turn around and stop right. He

552
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: had play today on a play action pass that was

553
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: just god ridiculous. I believe he was on one foot

554
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: and he threw it the cj Usamata's back shoulder. Again,

555
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: not too many quarterbacks making that play. Not too many

556
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks just ciphering the blitz and then getting the ball

557
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: off to get a first down. So again, it just

558
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: looks like it's easy for Aaron Rodgers. That's the best

559
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Speaker 2: way to describe it. Just knows where to go with

560
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Speaker 2: the football, knows how to manipulate the defense.

561
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Speaker 3: He'll let you.

562
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Speaker 2: You'll make sure you show your hand and then it's

563
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Speaker 2: one of the greatest ever and causing twelve men on

564
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Speaker 2: the field or getting a defensive jump off side. And

565
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Speaker 2: I think that's an added thing to the Jets offense

566
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: out of people aren't talking about enough, right, that's a

567
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: free five yards. You want to stay ahead of the sticks,

568
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: getting people to jump off side, and then getting twelve

569
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: men on the field with substitution issues. Aaron Rodgers is

570
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Speaker 2: the best in the league of doing that.

571
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Speaker 1: Ab We saw that today out here on the practice

572
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Speaker 1: field where Hackett was yelling at the opposite s eye

573
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Speaker 1: line to the defense, get off the field, get off

574
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Speaker 1: the field, because you saw Rogers run up under center

575
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Speaker 1: and get ready. You never know when he's gonna take

576
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Speaker 1: a snap. And also like yesterday, I saw him line

577
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Speaker 1: up in the gun. He waited and he waited. Then

578
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Speaker 1: one of the Carolina edge rushers that came up, then

579
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Speaker 1: he changes goes right under center. It totally changes the place.

580
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Speaker 1: So it's for him. Everything out here is chess. He's

581
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Speaker 1: a chess player, and everybody else is trying to catch

582
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: jump because they're playing checkers.

583
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Speaker 3: That's what the quarterback you're supposed to do. Quite frankly,

584
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: I mean, when you were playing in the league and

585
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: you were starting quality quarterback, you need to be doing

586
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: that stuff. I mean, if you're not, then the defenses

587
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: are smarter. Now they're better. They got better athletes. You

588
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: don't have a lot more. You know, the time is

589
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: less with the speed that's out there. Your decision process,

590
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: you have to have it made at the line of

591
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: scrimmage before the snap goes off. And then in that

592
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: instance when you got to make that quick second tier decision,

593
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: it just happens. But you already know because your your preset,

594
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: your film study. You know, guy's covering up a nickel.

595
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: He may come all those variations are so fast and

596
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: having it's the toughest pause. I mean, listen, it's not

597
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: it's not for everybody, right, So he does it at

598
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: the highest level, and it's going to show up this year.

599
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: We're gonna be like wow, like you know, there's like

600
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: you said, not too many guys can do that. And

601
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Speaker 3: then but that's what that's the experienced thirty nine. He's

602
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 3: played it so long, he learned from one of the greatest,

603
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: and now it's just it's it's easy. There's it almost

604
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: looks like he's arrogant when he does it. It's just

605
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: he knows, he gets it's a it's a confidence because

606
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: of the everything he's done in his career and it

607
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: pays off every single day for him.

608
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Speaker 1: It's interesting the choice of words there as far as arrogant,

609
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: it's it's just I know what you're saying, though, because

610
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: it never looks like he's hurried. There's never he doesn't

611
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: look like there's a sense of urgency because it comes

612
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: so easy to him. He knows it inside and out.

613
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he's never gonna press never.

614
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just confidence in this offense.

615
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: And Anthony was talking about this earlier, right, It's it's

616
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: one thing when like Brady leaves and goes to Tampa

617
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: has to learn the whole new offense under Bruce arians

618
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: But this guy has been in this offense, won two

619
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 2: MVPs in this offense, so it's kind of like he

620
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: picked up where he left off when he was with

621
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Speaker 2: Green Bay as far as knowing all the nuances to

622
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: the offense and how to make certain checks and again

623
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: how to manipulate the defense, how to get them to

624
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: jump off side, how to get them twelve men on

625
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: the field.

626
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: Again, It's just he has.

627
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: Supreme confidence when he's out there and you can see it.

628
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: He knows where each person is supposed to be, not

629
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Speaker 2: just on offense, he knows what the defenders were supposed

630
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: to be. So you love to have that as an

631
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: etch a quarterback position, a guy that knows exactly what

632
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: he's doing play in and play out.

633
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: As a player in the huddle, when you're seeing this,

634
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: it gives me a sense of calmness. I played different

635
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: because I'm not worried about like, oh, here comes my play.

636
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: Is he gonna look at me like you know, if

637
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: you're the option in practice or it was built for you,

638
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: like if you get you're getting the ball, you know,

639
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: Like that's that's a feeling for linemen and receivers and

640
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: tight ends and running backs. Man. And then he's also

641
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: a guy like bam running backs not quite Hey, she

642
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: can change it, you go to the flat or hook

643
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: over whatever that may be. It just it opens up

644
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: so much, man. It's it's just a fortunate, uh situation

645
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: for this team to be in right now to have

646
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: a guy that can do that. And I'm telling you

647
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: from day one. You're the first game. It's gonna show

648
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: up and it's gonna be fun to see.

649
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Speaker 1: It's watching every day one of the greatest conductors of

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Speaker 1: all time. Okay, so quick thoughts before we get out

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Speaker 1: of here. What have you seen from Jermae Johnson? Because

652
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Speaker 1: Carl Austin did not make the trip trip, got some

653
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: back tightness, so he's back in flooring park. But they're

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Speaker 1: also very encouraged about Johnson so far. Early in camp.

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Speaker 1: What did you see from him against the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had a wicked spin movie that

657
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Speaker 2: I know it wasn't versus the Panthers, but he had

658
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Speaker 2: one on Max Mitchell that was nasty.

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Speaker 3: But you've seen the growth in thecension from Jamaine.

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Speaker 2: Johnson always played with a lot of effort and energy

661
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: and you see that out on the field. We saw

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Speaker 2: him get into it with Hayden Hurst to tie end yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But that's what he's been in this whole camp. Right,

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Speaker 2: He's been the energy grabber of the defensive line. So

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Speaker 2: we've seen him take that jump. We've seen him become

666
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Speaker 2: more concise in this past rush moves, which I really like. Right,

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00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: he's been more open to using different moves. The spin

668
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: move has come out, the chop club has come out,

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Speaker 2: and we've just seen that growth. He's always been a

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00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: physical player, right, That's what he was at Florida State.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people didn't talk about that in the

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Speaker 2: run game, but to me, he was the best run

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Speaker 2: defender out of all the edge guys last year.

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Speaker 3: And you see that on tape as well.

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Speaker 2: So you see him taking that extension, especially with Carl

676
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Speaker 2: Lawston out for a little bit right now, it's good

677
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: to see him get in there with the mixed with

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Speaker 2: Quinn Williams at JFM. Yeah, getting that continuity with those

679
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: guys because we know this defensive line likes to rotate.

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Speaker 2: But I I specifically want to watch your main Master

681
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: because I believe he's gonna get an uptick in playtime

682
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Speaker 2: where last year he's about thirty percent. I would not

683
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Speaker 2: be surprised if he placed forty to forty percent of

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Speaker 2: the stats defense.

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Speaker 3: It's just one thing, I know. It's just he changed

686
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Speaker 3: his body. Yeah, he's more. He looks more flexible. He

687
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 3: seemed a little tight last year. You know, he just

688
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: he didn't know how to work his body trees by

689
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Speaker 3: now he got a year under his belt. He watched

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Speaker 3: other guys. Carl Lawson by you know, taught him a

691
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Speaker 3: lot of stuff on how you know, Oh yeah, right

692
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Speaker 3: he lost. Now it's really kind of translate on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, and I do want to remind people

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Speaker 1: when they analyze Jets Panthers joint practices that saw us Gardner.

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Speaker 1: I think he had some quad tightness. So he did

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00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: not practice against Carolina. Garrett Wilson coming off the ankle,

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Speaker 1: he did not practice against the Panthers. What I like

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Speaker 1: what Rogers did today? Second play a team. Oh seventeen's back,

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Speaker 1: here you go, I get right involved. And then the

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Speaker 1: other guy it was a monsterpiece for this team. Who

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Speaker 1: will find out more in the weeks ahead is Brice Hall.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so those are three monster pieces. And those guys,

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Speaker 1: if they're not stars, are ready they're gonna be stars

704
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Well, I you know, the

705
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Speaker 1: two of those guys.

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Speaker 3: You can count on a cyclone.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you brought up that Garret wilsonay,

708
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Speaker 2: because it was like, even though Garrett Wilson's missed the

709
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Speaker 2: last couple of practices, it was like there was no

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Speaker 2: drop off between him and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: They just in sync.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy to think that they've only been together with

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Speaker 2: about five months, five and.

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Speaker 3: A half months.

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Speaker 2: Because he knew exactly where to set up in his own

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00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: right there, and Aaron Rodgers hit him right in between

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Speaker 2: the numbers. And again we talked about this earlier. Rogers

718
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: will correct players after plays like I want you to

719
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Speaker 2: just cut in a little bit more. Didn't have to

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Speaker 2: do that with Garret Wilson. He knew exactly where to

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Speaker 2: set up, and that's reps on the field. That's the

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Speaker 2: only way you can get that continuity. So I would

723
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Speaker 2: not be surprised if Garrett Wilson and you can clip

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Speaker 2: this goes over fifteen hundred yards this.

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Speaker 1: Year that I was there a long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is just the I really do expect gaudy numbers.

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Speaker 3: He's that good last year. I he's good. Now he

728
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Speaker 3: did it with four different quarterbacks. He's got Aaron Rodgers.

729
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: Now Aaron Rodgers gonna feed him the rock. He's he's

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Speaker 3: gonna break all kinds of records around here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, this was fun. Fellas really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: And Uh, the lasting image I'll have from joint practices,

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Speaker 1: not just Rogers and everything we saw from the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: but saw us Gardner not practiced against Carolina, and he

735
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Speaker 1: gets some good work in for Brandon Eckles and Brandon

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Speaker 1: Eckles had a pick six against the number one overall

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Speaker 1: pick and the drafts. So good work for the Jets

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Speaker 1: even though they weren't able to get that second day

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Speaker 1: of practice in with the Panthers. We'll see what happens

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Great seeing you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you