1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: in the credit fear of normalcy Coo cooka chew Wednesday 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: and the opening of free agency for real starts today. 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: The last three days of fictitiousness, although there are real 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: deals getting done, will be finally signed come four pm today, 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: So a lot of the deals that we have heard 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: reported will become official by those thirty two NFL clubs. 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: And hey, Steve, this just in Jacksonville, still spending money. 11 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Good grief there. Do you want to know what they're 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: up to in total contract value? Let me get what's 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: this number? What's the one they just signed? Jacksonville is 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: going to sign Darius Williams the cornerback to a three year, 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars million. It's got to be three hundred 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: and fifty not that high. They're up to two hundred 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: and seventy million dollars in contracts in three days. So 18 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: good on you, peeps. Shot Cohn, you're a man with 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: a really fat check book. You are deep pocket Shot. 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 1: Kudos to the con man because adds a lot of bread. 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to six and eleven. So the team that always 22 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: spends the most doesn't always reap the most rewards come 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: the fall, as we saw last year with New England, 24 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: who was spending money like water last year at this time. Yeah, 25 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: And the amazing thing to me is Jacksonville with all 26 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: their signings are equally throwing people overboard that they just signed. 27 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: We're drafted. Like DJ Chark, thanks for coming. He signed 28 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: with Detroit. They they want to move laviska channel. It's 29 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: just it's like a it's a cycling through. It's it's 30 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the play I'm sorry, I just caught myself. 31 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if the players that go there and leave 32 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: in the span of two years, like, do they call 33 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: it something like the Jacksonville cleans, because that's what it is. 34 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: It's like a cleanse. You know, you go there for 35 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: nine days, you're on this ridiculous diet where your digestive 36 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: system does things you never even thought were possible. I 37 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: don't know. And then you're often you know, you're somewhere else, 38 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. And usually when you finish up 39 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: a cleans, you feel really good. I'm not sure it 40 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: feels that way when you leave Jacksonville. Now I'm gonna 41 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: ask you this, have you ever done one of those? 42 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: You don't the kind, not the kind you're talking about, 43 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: like we had who was the Like I'm gotten who 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: is that guy doing that chakras something or other? Was 45 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: it was Rogers? It was Rogers, that's right, was a twelve. 46 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: And they call it therapeutic vomiting and the other I 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: don't know how that can be considered a good thing 48 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: for your body. Bro, you're preaching to the choir. I mean, 49 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: he was talking about because I wanted in me, not 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: out of me. He was talking about numerous animas, among 51 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: other things. And all I gotta tell you, you know, 52 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: the the voluntary vomiting, like when you just call it 53 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: therapeutic therapeutic vomiting when you're sick and your body does 54 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: that on its own, I get why it's happening. But 55 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: to voluntarily take an involuntary action and make it voluntary, 56 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't work for me. Do you know 57 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, I'm totally I 58 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: read that list of the thing that Aaron Rodgers did, 59 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: But to me, and I'm sure that's probably very popular 60 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: rut on the West Coast. I'm not a West Coast dude. 61 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't I don't work that way. Here's the thing. 62 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: It's it's like all these teams are out in there 63 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: in free agency and they spend this big chest and 64 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: you've gotta have it is not difficult to go back 65 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: in time to look back and watch what other teams 66 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: have done in the past and use them as learning experiences, 67 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: cautionary tales, what you call it, what you want, whatever 68 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: lessons there are to be learned. And yet it's like 69 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: every young couple who gets married, our marriage is different. 70 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna be different. We're gonna be a we're gonna 71 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: be fine every day. You're gonna be sunshine. And dad 72 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: was like that. Their mom and dad was like that. 73 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: All our grandparents were like that. All the people we 74 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: know who were married or like that. We are different. 75 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: That's how these teams are approaching free agency. We're gonna 76 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: spend our money on the right guys and you know, 77 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: and they're gonna come through for these enormous contracts. It 78 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: is absolute insanity. Yeah, it is. And if you're interested 79 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: in more on that, Steve and I will have a 80 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: very lengthy discussion on the pitfalls that teams continuously make 81 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: in free agency and why the Bills budgetary approach has 82 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: clearly been more fruitful. That will be on our Bills 83 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: by the Numbers podcast later this week. It's like everybody 84 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: else is like it. You can. You can marry for love. 85 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: You can. I'm using the merry togy analogy. You get 86 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: you're marry for love, You're gonna marry for money. You know, 87 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: the the best marriage the marriages that tend the last longest. 88 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: The arranged marriages, well, hold on, those are the ones 89 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: that last longest. Wait a minute, it's true. History tells 90 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: us Steve, this is a special soapbox you're getting up 91 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: on here now, I arraign. Let me get this straight. 92 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: Arranged marriages have a better track record for making it 93 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: than marrying for lover money. Okay, maybe not for money. 94 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I've never tried that, right, Okay, or we gotta 95 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: rank these now. In history, it used to be everything 96 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: was arranged. Right. You never did that because your family 97 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: marriages that family and those marriages laugh, and that doesn't 98 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: mean they were I'm not saying they were happy. I'm 99 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: just saying they lasted. Oh oh okay, I mean happiness 100 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: is you know, happiness is subjective, right, So I'm gonna 101 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: need the research and analytics department to get on this 102 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, we should do that. Get on that. 103 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's I'm trying to make a humorous analogy 104 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: to these free agency I don't want to I'm casting 105 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: a Spursons on anybody's preferences. I'm Margerin. I'm just we're 106 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: having fun. That's all. Take it for that, but still 107 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: still the points there to be made. It's like all 108 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: these teams do this. Look, you think the Patriots would 109 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: do the same deals they did last year for those 110 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: guys Aghalore, Jon wh Smith and Hunter Henry. Do you 111 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: think they'd make Do you think they'd make those deals today? 112 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Their playoff team ten and seven with Mac. I don't 113 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: think they'd do that deal for John hu Smith because 114 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: they paid him the same money as Hunter Henry and 115 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: didn't get anything out of him. Mac Jones wouldn't even 116 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: throw to him. Um, those two guys got identical contracts 117 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: at twelve and a half million a season, twelve and 118 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: a half for a tight end. Now, Hunter Henry came 119 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: through with touchdowns, so good red zone target John hu 120 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: Smith say he didn't get it done. No, here, he 121 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: didn't get it done in any way, shape or form. Right, 122 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing they paid. So here, what you're telling 123 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: me is they paid twenty four million dollars to get 124 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: basically one tight end out of the two of those guys. 125 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: You can make that argument. Twenty five million, you can 126 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: make that argument, right, I mean, that's what we're talking about. 127 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: So that I'm gonna go back and look at their 128 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: at their statistics in the John new Smith last year 129 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: twenty eight catches, two hundred and ninety four yards, one touchdown. 130 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Say that again, twenty eight for two ninety four and 131 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown for John new Smith twelve and a half 132 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: million a year. You getting your money's worth? No, no, no, 133 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: you're not. Twenty eight two n and Jacksonville is doing 134 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: the same thing this year with some of the crazy 135 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: contracts they handed out. Christian Kirk. It is all about 136 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: and I'm we're pounding this drum hard and we'll do it. 137 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: We do it in the podcast too. We pound this 138 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: drum hard because it's working so well here in Buffalo. 139 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. If you put if you 140 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: wrap it around, and I get it. Everything in this 141 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: whole conversation about the Buffalo Bills is wrapped around Josh 142 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Allen and his success, and I get it. But you know, 143 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: you wrap it around another quarterback and another team, and 144 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: you're you'll probably get the same thing. I'll tell you 145 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: this right now. Another team that's spending big and has 146 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: spent big at the top. Some of it's been on 147 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: their own guys, no question, but a lot of it's 148 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: been on some free agents as well. You look at 149 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. They got that quarterback Justin Herbert, 150 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and they're building on his rookie still in his rookie deal. 151 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: That's right. They're building it like the the like the 152 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: storefront way, like out on Main Street. They are buying 153 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: big things and they are showcasing it and they're star 154 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: power and YadA YadA, YadA. Gotta do a little of that. 155 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: In LA. Whatever you gotta win, you gotta win. They 156 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: would LA would love it if they won with Charlie 157 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: six pack and Billy Bag of Donuts, and you know, 158 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Polly the Pizza guy. They would love it, Polly the 159 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: Pizza It would be great if if they did, the 160 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: fans would get more with stars, though stars are easier 161 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: to follow. I get it, and stars get you on 162 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: primetime games all that. But if you started winning games 163 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: with just a bunch of guys, that would be as 164 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: big a hit as it would be otherwise. How often 165 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: does that happen in the NFL? I don't know. That's 166 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: the point is made though, right, you win games is 167 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: how you get there. I get what you're saying. Deshaun 168 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Watson news meeting with the Atlanta Falcons today. On the surface, 169 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: this would appear to be the team he is most 170 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: interested in signing with or getting traded to in this 171 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: particular case, because there are reports out there that he 172 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: reached out personally to the Falcons organization spressing an interest 173 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: in playing for that franchise. So Atlanta turns around jumps 174 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: into the trade sweepstakes with Houston along with three other clubs, 175 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: Saints Panthers. Browns says, all right, we'll talk some turkey. 176 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: So he's meeting with them today and this would appear 177 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: to be the last team that he will meet with personally, 178 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: and then he will make his decisions since he has 179 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: a no trade clause as to which team he would 180 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: be willing to go to and waive his no trade 181 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: clause with the Houston Texans, then getting compensation in return, Steve, 182 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: I know, we talked about this briefly before we came 183 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: on the air. The most interesting part of this whole 184 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: thing is the fact that the Texans, according to ESPN's 185 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Diana Rassini, mandated that teams that were interested in securing 186 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Watson via trade submit a trade proposal, and only until 187 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: the Texans found the proposed U two they're liking was 188 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: that team allowed to meet with Watson. Talk about controlling 189 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: the conversation. Hello, and and it has been said time 190 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: and time again, the starting point for the Texas is 191 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: three one. Now, if they said that and then privately 192 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: did something else, fine, but that's what that what was 193 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: out there, so you had to write it down. Here's 194 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: what we're willing to give this, this, this, this, this 195 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: and this and this. Can we talk to Deshaun and 196 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: they and I would be I would be really interested 197 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: to see the list of teams that didn't make it. Yeah, 198 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: if there is one, and there's got to be right, 199 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: you would think, you would think, and the reason the 200 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: reason Deshaun Watson would love to play for the Atlanta Falcons. 201 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: He was a ball boy for him when he was 202 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: a kid. He knows the owner and his family and 203 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: they have a great of a relate personal relationship. That's 204 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: why he felt comfortable reaching out to them. I mentioned 205 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: this yesterday, and now we've reached an even higher level. 206 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Three of the four teams, three of the four teams 207 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: that are in the mix here to acquire Deshaun Watson 208 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: are all in the NFC South Saints, Panthers, Falcons. One 209 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: team is going to be happy, the other two are 210 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna be left holding the bag staring at that guy 211 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: twice a year for the next ten years presumable. And 212 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: the other team in there's Cleveland. Yeah, I mean, all 213 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: three of them could be out in the cold if 214 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: he goes to Cleveland, but it doesn't sound like that's 215 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: his preference at this point in time. Yeah, I mean, 216 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: you go to Carolina, you're playing in the backyard of 217 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: where he plays your college ball. You go to Atlanta, 218 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: that's the team where I don't know, I maybe grew 219 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: up rooting for him, who knows. Otherwise, you go down 220 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: to the Saints and you know, playing a don't and 221 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: you can probably convince Michael Thomas to stay put. And 222 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: you've got Alvin Kamara in the backfield. So so there 223 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: you are. I mean, and I don't it's gonna be 224 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna shift the landscape of the NFC South no 225 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: matter who he goes to. Right, Yeah, provided it's one 226 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: of those three and not Cleveland, it's gonna be really interesting. 227 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: It's an interesting thing. And if you can, you know, 228 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: we we've all obviously, even for this conversation, we kind 229 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: of set everything else apart. It's going to be suspended 230 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: for at least, in my opinion, six games. So there's that. Then, Also, 231 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: what is what the return is gonna be? What are 232 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: the Houston Tech? How's it going to change the Texans? 233 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be something less than a tire fire 234 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: for a minute or are they going to continue to 235 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: do that? Levey Smith gives him some stability, quality head coach. 236 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: That was a plus for them. But I still have, 237 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: and I think others around the league have enormous questions 238 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: about their leadership and what it's gonna look like long term. 239 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: Certainly they've they've had an absolute mess to be made, 240 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: and part of them, you can say it's Deshaun Wats 241 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: And yes, part of the mess that was really made 242 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: as well was their handling of Deshaun Watson before this 243 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: ever came out. I mean, they were, they were, They 244 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: were on the outs together for a while, Bill O'Brien 245 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: then ownership, the ownership then, and Bill O'Brien's ability to 246 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: absolutely mortgage draft picks everything on getting guys in the 247 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: door to try and win, and he got him to 248 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs and won a playoff game he beat He 249 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: beat Josh Allen in his rookie season or second year. 250 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: But man, oh man, they have a lot of work 251 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: to do to restore their credibility. And I think most 252 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: of the lack of credibility doesn't start with Deshaun Watson. 253 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: Starts up higher than that. I'm just fascinated at how 254 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the landscape of the NFC South can dramatically change based 255 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: on the decision that he makes here a couple of 256 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: um I mean, it would be the equivalent of Aaron 257 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers deciding he's gonna play for one of four teams 258 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: and three of them are in the AFC East with 259 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the Bills. That would be like Aaron 260 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers saying well, I'm either going to play for the Jets, 261 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, or let's see the Patriots, and then there's 262 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: one other team. I might play for the Lions, Like 263 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's if you're if 264 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: you're in that division, you're like, you know why, it's 265 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna shift the landscape of that entire division no matter 266 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: which one. He's a good player, there's no question about it. 267 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna play very well for whoever gets him. If 268 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: you're looking at him. And I don't know what his 269 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: thought process is at all, right, but about playing New 270 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Orleans does not seem to me like a great opportunity. 271 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta maybe, yeah, Carolina, maybe. New Orleans is a wreck 272 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: since Sean Payton new head coach, all of that stuff's 273 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: going out a cat problem, cat problem. Ye, Yeah, they 274 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: got some issues that it's going to take longer than 275 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: a year to clean up. I don't know if they 276 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: care about cleaning it up. They just keep pushing it. Yeah, 277 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: So they lose Marcus Williams, the safety to Baltimore, who 278 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: signs a big deal up there. They turned around and 279 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: signed Marcus May away from the Jets. It's like they're 280 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: clearing money, like it's going out of style, and then 281 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: they can't spend it fast enough again. It's crazy. Yeah, 282 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: they can't help themselves. It's a it's a situation that 283 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: really it's gonna we're gonna have to watch un full 284 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: over the next couple of months. It'll probably be resolved 285 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: before the draft. Oh, I think it have to be. Yeah. Meanwhile, 286 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: back in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield was openly wondering about his 287 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: future and decided to express those feelings of wonder on 288 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: social media. Felt the need to send out thank yous 289 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: and whatever else to the Browns fan base. I don't 290 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: know if he believes he'll be traded to Houston as 291 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: part of a package for the Browns to acquire Wattson Steve. 292 00:17:52,600 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: But I I don't understand this generation of players feeling 293 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: it's necessary to reach out express themselves publicly. I think 294 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: there is a time and a place to do that. 295 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: But the willingness and seeming desire for a lot of 296 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: these guys to speak their minds publicly. It's their right. 297 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm just very 298 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: curious about the inherent, the seemingly inherent desire to do it. 299 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: At all times. And I'm not saying it's everybody in 300 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: this generation of players, but there's certainly enough of them, 301 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: and he's one of. It's Yeah, it's telling about Baker 302 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: Mayfield where he's not even been mentioned in any of this, 303 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: although by you know, he's obviously the quarterback of the 304 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and the Brows are talking to a to 305 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: the Hutton Texans about trades. I get why he's take 306 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I get it, but man, oh man, you can't. You 307 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: can't help yourself. But start putting it and I get 308 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: it to you. You take guys, take it personally. But 309 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: if I'm the Cleveland Browns looking at Baker Mayfield, I'm 310 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: not a Browns fan, obviously, I don't. I don't dispassionately 311 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying this if I'm the Browns, if I don't 312 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: have if I'm just passionate about it, I'm not going 313 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: to listen. I don't care. Baker. I know you played 314 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: hurt awesome. Would we know more about you if you 315 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: had not played last year than I than we found 316 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: out you playing and playing poorly last year with a 317 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: bad off shoulder non throwing shoulder. I know you're gutsy. 318 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: You came out and you tried to play. You stunk 319 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: and I know you were hurt. You got a year 320 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: coming up. Hey, we picked it up. We'll give you 321 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: a chance, but you better prove it be better because 322 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: we're looking to replace you with somebody better right now. 323 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: And if we can, we will. Baker Mayfield can, We're 324 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: not the general manager of the Browns is not there 325 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: to be his buddy and to rub his tummy and 326 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: make him feel good. You got to get that guy 327 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: to perform. And if and if putting him in the 328 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: spot does that, then you got to do it. And 329 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a perfect time to do it. 330 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: Get this year out of him. If he comes out 331 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: and plays like Gangbusters, Okay, all right, then he's your 332 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: guy going forward. Sign him to a deal. And if 333 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to sign the deal, if you can't, 334 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: come to turns and trade him. Here's but you got 335 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: to get that guy to play. He has not played 336 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: well enough yet their roster last year for not going 337 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. You got a hammer Baker Mayfield on 338 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: top of the head for that. You gotta get the 339 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: ball to Obj. How could he not be getting the ball? 340 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: How could he not be getting the ball in that offense. Yeah, 341 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: well he was injured and then they moved him and 342 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff went wrong there. Freddie Kitchen set 343 00:20:52,960 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: that organization back during Mayfield's tenure and Stefanski helped the 344 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: following year his first year in the door, but kind 345 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: of went sideways last year. Baker wants Baker. I think 346 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: Baker's interested in being famous. I don't know if. And 347 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: that's part of the reason these guys reach out social media. 348 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, they want to be They want to win 349 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: the favor of the public. They want to win public 350 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: opinion to their side of whatever argument issue they're on, 351 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: and they figure this is a way to accomplish that. 352 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: But just play better and you won't have an issue, 353 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's what it's about. Tyrod Taylor 354 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Steve signed by the Giants as Joe Shane brings the 355 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback in having been around him here in Buffalo 356 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, two year deal from him for him 357 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: to presumably be the backup for Daniel Jones. Well, people 358 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, Tyrod's a great teammate, great guy to 359 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: have on your team. Yeah, do right, guy, team guy. 360 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: He dedicated and he gives you something a quarterback to 361 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we you know, we've been getting a loaded 362 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: Josh Josh Alan for you know, three or four years. 363 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: But Tyrod Tyrod gives you something. He's a leader. Now, 364 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: certainly he's limited in his throwing. He's got to see 365 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: it's got to be wide open, it's got to be 366 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: there before he throws it. He doesn't. He's not an 367 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: anticipatory thrower, and that's a problem in the NFL in 368 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot of instances. But he does have enough arm, 369 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: and he's certainly enough of an athlete, and he's a 370 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: great leader. So whatever his limitations are, the guy's got 371 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot of experience as a starter and as a backup, 372 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: and he brings something so good for him and I hope, 373 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I hope he's hangs on there for as long as 374 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: he wants to. The Bills news today is that they 375 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: are working reportedly to create more cap space. They've reportedly 376 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: restructured the contract of Micah Hyde, clearing about four and 377 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: a half million in cap space. Also reports, including from 378 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: our friends Alca Paccio, that they're reworking Matt Milano's contract 379 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: as well to create more cap space. So we'll see 380 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: what comes to that. I know a lot of people 381 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: are anticipating this leading to a big signing, which you know, 382 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: you can't rule that out, you got. I think we 383 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: also have to look at the state of the roster. 384 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: Still a good number of holes to fill here, and 385 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I know they have nine draft choices and you can 386 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: sign undrafted free agents too, but there's an element of 387 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: veteran talent that I think still has to get added 388 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: to this roster. And we've seen the Bills accomplish budgetary 389 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: signings at the cornerback position over the years, whether it's 390 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Josh Norman on a one year deal, Kevin Johnson on 391 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: a one year deal, you know that kind of thing. 392 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: Here's another thing too, Just as the Bills are looking 393 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: for cap space, so other teams, a lot of other 394 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: teams are who are in way we're shaped thing the Bills, 395 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: who maybe have more talented players. There's a guy like 396 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: matt Ionidas, who is also from Washington, just Tim Settle. 397 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: Ionidis is now going to get released and the problem 398 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: and here's why the Bill's model makes so much sense. 399 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: A guy like matt Ionidis is a starting caliber defensive tackle, 400 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. They had to let him go, and he's 401 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: out on the street. A lot of other teams who don't, 402 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: who can't, didn't whatever, get value for guys who now 403 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: got this guy on this huge contract who couldn't live 404 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: up to it because you're not getting snapcounts or whatever, 405 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: have to release him. You've got a lot of talent 406 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: on the street right now that you can pick up 407 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: for less than what they were making with their old team. 408 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Because they want to play somewhere and they don't want 409 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: to be out of a job, they'll take a one 410 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: year deal to get back into the loop and hit 411 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: another home run with another silly team who's willing to overpay. 412 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: You know, you get a guy like like this, For instance, 413 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: matt ionide Is from the Washington Commanders, comes out, he 414 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: says he was making he's making like ten million a year. 415 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was making a ton of money. 416 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: Cut for cap reasons, comes to Buffalo, is part of 417 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: the defensive line rotation for a year. Maybe makes half 418 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: of that. Maybe he makes five million a year on 419 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: a one year deal. Comes off a team that goes 420 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs. Maybe best case scenario wins the 421 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. Now he's a commodity. Again, somebody's gonna pay him, 422 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: give him a two year deal for twenty five you 423 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, could happen. That's the kind of 424 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: scenario these players live under. And the best case, and 425 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: those are the best case scenario. Case scenario is another 426 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: deal for two years, the same money he's making now 427 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: five for the year he made for the one year 428 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: he made for Buffalo. So that's that's what they're thinking 429 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: of me. That's why Buffalo with their patients, catches these 430 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: guys as other teams have to carve him off. Trubiscuit, 431 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: he's a perfect example of that. Plays one year for 432 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: two and a quarter. Now he's got a two year 433 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: deal worth over seven a year. I mean, it's not 434 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: giant quarterback money, but he more than you know, he 435 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: pretty much tripled his salary from last year. Tell me this, 436 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: for most of us out here, as a backup quarterback 437 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: who didn't play last you and me, You and me 438 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: included two years and you get fourteen million bucks after taxes? 439 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: What are at ten would say? Eight? Yes, it's not 440 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: going to change your life for most of us. Yeah, yeah, 441 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: that's a life changer for most of us. You gotta 442 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: do it, you gotta do it new overtime proposals. Tell 443 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: me this won't be popular among the Bills fan base. 444 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: That's happening so often in the NFL Operations Department announced 445 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: that there will be two overtime proposals submitted by the 446 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: Competition Committee. Indianapolis and the Eagles proposed allowing both teams 447 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: to possess the ball in overtime, and Tennessee proposed allowing 448 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: both teams to possess the ball in overtime unless team 449 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: to possess it first gets a touchdown and a two 450 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: point conversion. So the two point conversion really the only 451 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: change to what currently exists in overtime. So those are 452 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: the ones that will be put on the table. The 453 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: bill's proposal apparently did not make the cut. Brandon Bean 454 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: gave us some detail on what the bill's proposal was, 455 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: where it sounded as though it was time oriented, not 456 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: number of possession oriented, So that one did not make 457 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: the cut, along with a couple of others. So we'll 458 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: see which one passes. Muster and I would anticipate Steve 459 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: that if these changes were adopted either one of these, 460 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: that they would be adopted, maybe for playoffs only. I've 461 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: heard some rumblings and rumors that it may be that 462 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: the league says, you know what would really make it 463 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: interesting at the end of the year, Ye, the way 464 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: it did this last year with Pittsburgh, Indianapolis and all 465 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: those teams, because Pittsburgh had tied a game with I 466 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: can't remember who, Cleveland, I'm not going to remember, so 467 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: they had a tie, and or Cincinnati. Anyway, let let 468 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: teams tie in the regular season, because what it does 469 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: is it brings in ump team more possibilities at the 470 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: end of the year, for teams to sneak in under 471 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: the right combinations. It lengthens the in the hunt list 472 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: deeper into the season and keeps more interest in the game, 473 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: so you would have ties more prevalent in the NFL 474 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: going forward, and then in the playoffs when you've got 475 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: to have a winner, these playoff rules, these overtime rules 476 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: take advantage. I kind of like that. I kind of do. 477 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: I don't mind to see the league liking it, because 478 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: if more teams are still in the hunt, that means 479 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: more fans are still interested and right off you go, right, 480 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: So I get it. You'll have some purists that'll be 481 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: like I don't like ties in football. To begin with that, 482 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: I don't want more of them. So I mean I 483 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: you can answer that with three words, I don't care. Yeah, 484 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: n do it to add you know, Um, we'll see 485 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: where it does make a lot of sense because that 486 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: those two teams all of a sudden become one up 487 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: or one down from the teams around them in the standings. 488 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty awesome you think about it for for 489 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: the standings at the end, because it now with fourteen 490 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs and then with ties being added 491 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: to the mix more often. And I we could go 492 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: back and look at how many overtime games there were 493 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: last year that I don't know if I'm signing up 494 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: because you know, the bit breaking procedures are complex enough. 495 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: The Bills would have ended up with a tie rather 496 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: than a loss at at Tampa Bay. Oh yeah, because 497 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: you're not going overtime, there are just tie they would 498 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: have ended up in a time or are or are 499 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: they going for the win? There are they going too? 500 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Good question? And that that's even better? Hey why not? Right? Um? 501 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: Because you know there isn't a fifth quarter? Right, so yeah, 502 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: it could I like the intrigue at the end of 503 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: the games. I like the intrigue of it, and I'm 504 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: I've hurt, and I don't think it's going to happen. 505 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: I think they like having a thumbs up thumbs down 506 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: on the weekend, but I think if you if you 507 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: do that, I certainly they've got to have overtime rules 508 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: in place for the playoffs. The other interesting one that 509 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: I saw that is not going to be considered in 510 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: any way by or submitted by the competition committee is 511 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: the team that has the home the home team gets 512 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: the first possession in overtime. You don't have a coin toss. 513 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: I like that better than a coin toss, because at 514 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: least you know going in, if you're the visiting team, 515 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: what's going to happen at the start of overtime, and 516 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: you may change your strategy at the end of regulation 517 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: because of it. You might go for two at the 518 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: end of exactly. I like that better because you know 519 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: home team's got to get something, so give them an 520 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: advantage overtime, first possession, whatever, and then you know, by 521 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: default the visiting team and the coaching staff knows, all right, 522 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: well this is it here? Do we want to go 523 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: to overtime? Is our defense gonna be able to stop them, 524 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: know when they get the first possession or not, and 525 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: if not, let's just go for it, try to win 526 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: it here, shorten the game, and try to get out 527 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: of here. In regulation, I think that would eliminate all 528 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: of the criticism of leaving a game that important up 529 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: to chance flip of a coin and instead giving it 530 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: to the home team who earned the right to play 531 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: at home in the first place. It's kind of a 532 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: little perk if you will and buy, and in turn, 533 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: it gives the visiting team at least knowledge of what 534 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: they're walking into and overtime if they choose to go 535 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: that right you think that idea and that's not a shame, 536 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: that's not part of it. That's not bad. Or it 537 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: could be tied to the coin toss at the beginning 538 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: of the game too. If you get the first half 539 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: choice and they get to defer, defer the second the 540 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: team at the second half gets their choice, then the 541 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: other team it goes back to the other team. You 542 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You get the you know what 543 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you can you can defer at the front 544 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: far at the start of the game. The other team 545 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: gets to make their choice at halftime. Oh no, you 546 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: get to make a choice at halftime because the other 547 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: team gets to receive the ball to open the game. 548 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Then you get to make your choice at halftime. Then 549 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: the other team gets the chance to make their choice. 550 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: So it couldn't have to be home team visiting team. 551 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: It can still be tied to the to the coin 552 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: flip at the beginning of the game. ESPN's Adam Schefter 553 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: is reporting that running back J. D. McKissick, who intended 554 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: to sign a two year, seven million dollars deal with 555 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: the Bills, has apparently changed his mind and is now 556 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: going to return to Washington for the same compensation. And 557 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: according to sources, so the pump fake. This is why 558 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: it's not done until it's done. Name on the bottom 559 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: of the paper. You need that first. So it appears 560 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 1: that the search for running back running back depth will 561 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: continue here for the Bills in the off season. He's 562 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: probably you know, I'm sure that Washington got on the 563 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: phone and say, listen, if you stay here, you're gonna 564 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: get a lot more carries. You're gonna do ran So 565 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: he said, okay, because here, you know, he's gonna be 566 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: at least to begin with behind Devin Singletary to start with, Well, 567 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: he was going to be in a pass catching role 568 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: here presumably, but that is off the table now, according 569 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: to ESPN's Adam Schefter. So unfortunate. But that's why until 570 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: the guy's names on the contract, you don't assume anything. 571 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: So we'll see what direction that sends Buffalo from this 572 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: point in terms of addressing the running back position, whether 573 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: they look elsewhere in free agency or choose to address 574 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: it somewhere in the draft right, definitely be an interesting 575 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: scenario here going forward. So that's ESPN's Adam Schefter. If 576 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: you're just joining us, he's reporting that jd mcassick has 577 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: pulled a U turn and has decided to resign with 578 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: Washington instead of going to the Bills on a two year, 579 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: seven million dollar contract. And he's not he's not the 580 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: first player and he probably won't be the last. Brandy 581 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Gregory just did that yesterday with the Cowboys. Yeah, Josh 582 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: McDaniels has done it to the entire organization that bolts 583 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: as well. So that is true. So that is that 584 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 1: we will take a break here. When we come back, 585 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: we do want to discuss with you what's been your 586 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: favorite Bills move so far, hopefully it's not McKissick. And 587 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: we have to discuss the compensatory picks which were announced 588 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: by the league yesterday, which has now put all of 589 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo's picks in the draft with a specific number assignment. 590 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: Now that all the picks are accounted for in the 591 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, we'll get to all of 592 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: that stuff when we return here on One Bills Live, 593 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, 594 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Taster 595 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: with you case you missed it or you're just joining us. 596 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting that JB. McKissick has pulled 597 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: a U turn and is going to resign with the 598 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders after reportedly agreeing to terms on a two 599 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: year contract with the Bills. So nothing signed, sealed and delivered. 600 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: So players have the ability to do that if they 601 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: so choose, and he has chosen to do so, apparently 602 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. So we'll see where the 603 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: Bills go on the running back front going forward. There's 604 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: also compensatory picks. Those were announced by the league yesterday 605 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: late in the afternoon, and the Bills, as expected, were 606 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: not awarded any as they did not sustain a net 607 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: loss of free agents, which is the primary criteria to 608 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: be awarded a compensatory pick. Among the big winners in 609 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: the compensatory pickpool, the Chargers and the Rams, who will 610 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: each have four compensatory picks, Arizona, Detroit, and San Francisco 611 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: each get three, and then a handful of teams with two, 612 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 1: and another handful of teams each getting won Kansas City 613 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: and the Rams under the twenty twenty amendment to the 614 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: League CBA to promote equal employment opportunities and an inclusive workforce, 615 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: they're going to benefit from their prior assistance being hired 616 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: by other teams. For the Rams, trying to remember who 617 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: it was now, Oh, it was the coordinator, right that 618 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: got hired by another team. The Chiefs had their front 619 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: office man, Ryan Poles, joined the Bears as general manager, 620 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: so that affords This is the thing, Steve. The payoff 621 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: is a compensatory pick at the end of the third 622 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: round for not one year, but two years back to 623 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: back drafts. You get an extra three. Really, that's huge. 624 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: That is big. Each of the next two drafts. If 625 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: you have two people, two people of a minority or 626 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, inclusive part of your workforce that get hired 627 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: away by other teams in the same year, you get 628 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: a third round an extra third round pick each of 629 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: the next three drafts. How about that, Right, that's big time, 630 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: especially with a draft as deep as this one this year, 631 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: that's big. Yeah, it's it does make a difference. And 632 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. I'll say this, 633 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: it's yeah. I mean, you got to you gotta incentivize it, 634 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: no question about it. Certainly there's a ton of guys 635 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: that are deserving and that's good. I don't have a 636 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: problem with It's hard, and it's almost it makes a 637 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: little bit convoluted, but awesome. I'm glad to see it. 638 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean this, this building has gotten better over the 639 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: past six or eight years because of the inclusion of 640 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: minorities and women. It's a much better place and much 641 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: more successful by the way. Yeah. Adam Schefter is providing 642 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: some background on JD. Mckissick's reported change of heart. Washington 643 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: initially didn't offer J D. McKissick a deal of any 644 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: kind until he agreed to one in Buffalo. According to 645 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: his agents, once McKissick heard Washington was willing to match 646 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: the offer, he did not want to leave. Okay, fair enough, Okay, 647 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: So there's that. That's essentially what is afoot here with 648 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: respect to J. D. Mckissic. We do want to address 649 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: our topic of the day, which now has one subtraction 650 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: from the list. But what has been your favorite Bills 651 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: move so far? You let us know at eight oh 652 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: three five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two five 653 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: fifty or you can hit us up on the tweet 654 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: sheet at one Bills Live. So let's go to the 655 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: tweet sheet now. And tweet sheet is brought to you 656 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of 657 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. And leading us off here is Omega, 658 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: who says adding Mike Shula, who was just added this 659 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: week to the coaching staff as a senior offensive assistant roster, 660 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: was more than capable last year, and it's fun to 661 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: have our riches get richer. But supporting Dorsey as he 662 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: ramps up into an nfl oc with quality voices in 663 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: the room, we'll do war than our signing so far. 664 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: What do you think of that? I think it's insightful. 665 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: There's no I've said it before. Sometimes not all the time, 666 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: but once in a while you'll see a staff get 667 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: shaken up, and I'll say it, that's the most that's 668 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: the best free agent signing of the offseason by any team. 669 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: I said it when Wade Phillips got picked up by 670 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: the LA Rams, A great pickup. He's just you know, 671 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: coordinators make a difference, and so do other coaches. And 672 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: the more experience you've got. And I'll say this, Sean 673 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: McDermott made a big point of when Ken Dorsey took 674 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: her a job, and he's starting to run meetings and 675 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: get his staff together and start talking about those guys. 676 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Dorsey's got the real ability to sit there and listen 677 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: and be humble about what he's here and what he 678 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: has to learn. He knows he's never done this before, 679 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: and he doesn't need to have all the answers. He's 680 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: got people in the room. We've got some experience bringing 681 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: more of that in. It's awesome. He doesn't. He's not 682 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: sitting there being threatened by the fact that he's going 683 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: to get the hook after two weeks in the NFL 684 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: and have one of these other guys who's done it 685 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: before plugged in. It's not like that. I think it 686 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: shows great leadership and great courage and great security for him, 687 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: maturity for him to say, yeah, bringing more experience. The 688 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: more guys we've got in our room, the better, particularly 689 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: the guys with experience, And certainly Mike Shula is one 690 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: of those guys. He's been around for a long time coach, 691 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: and Shula has worked with Ken Dorsey before. They worked 692 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: together in Carolina on the offensive staff. Shula for a 693 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: time was the OC and Ken Dorsey was the quarterbacks 694 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: coach in Carolina. Shula has obviously called plays before, so 695 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: to his quarterbacks coach Joe Brady. So to have two 696 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: guys in the room, you know, during those game planning 697 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: sessions that have called plays before, for Ken Dorsey to 698 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: lean on, I think they're doing everything they can to 699 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: prop up Dorsey and help him be successful in his 700 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: first year as a play caller and any level of football. 701 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: What year was was that those two were those two 702 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: in Carolina? Cam right, Yes. Can you imagine when Mike 703 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: Shula comes in, sits down with doors and they start 704 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: watching film and Josh Allen's on the film and they're 705 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: looking at it a lot like Cam Newton was back 706 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: in thirteen fourteen, and then when he's an MVP in 707 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: fifteen when they went to the Super Bowl and Ken 708 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: Dorsey goes, hey, you remember this stuff we were doing 709 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: with Cam and now he goes add a passing game 710 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: onto it like this. He goes, we got that guy this, 711 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: it's unbelieved. He's the atomic bomb? What can we do 712 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: with him? What are your thoughts? And Mike sho was going, Bro, 713 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: let's go. I mean, that's got to be a film 714 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: session with two guys who have seen Cam Newton and 715 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: his prime going to the Super Bowl and that and 716 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: then having Josh Allen come in, and particularly after the 717 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: two games he put up back to back in the 718 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: playoffs this last year. They've got to be sitting there, man, 719 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: let's tee it up tomorrow. We got to kick it 720 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: off tomorrow. And I would really be loved to be 721 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: a fly on the wall. Let's into those guys talk 722 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: about the guy. They've got a coach in the offense. 723 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: They're going to run up here in Buffalo break time 724 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: for us here Stephen Buffalo and others holding at eight 725 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: O three five fifty hang tight. We'll get to you 726 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: after the break as we're asking you for your favorite 727 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: move so far that the Bills have made in the 728 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: free agent negotiating window that's coming up next. Here on 729 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Collided to Health, It's Buffalo 730 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back, One Bills Live. Chris Brown, 731 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. Gonna go to your phones to 732 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: see what you think is your favorite move thus far 733 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: that the Bills have made reportedly, although some are official. 734 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: You know, Roger Saffold is signed and so too is 735 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie. So if you have a favorite thus far 736 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: and free agency, they'll let it rip. We want to 737 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: know what it is for those of you just joining us. 738 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: Running back to Jade McKissick, who was reportedly set to 739 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: sign him with the Bills, has done a reversal of fortune. 740 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: It's going back to Washington for the same terms to 741 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: sign with the team that drafted him. That's amazing too, 742 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: because so JD. McKissick goes running back to the Washington Redskins. Meanwhile, commanders, Commanders, 743 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's like three names ago, so sorry about that. 744 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: So he runs back to the Washington commanders. Meanwhile, is 745 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: it Matt and Ionidis Yes, leaves the commanders saying we 746 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: don't like getting lied to to our face. So one guy, 747 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: one guy's trash is another man's treasure. Yeah, be interesting 748 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: to see where Ionidis ends up. It's not going to 749 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: be back in Washington. We know that he know that bridges, 750 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: that bridge is on fire and crumble as he just 751 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: totally coyoted T ANDT that bridge. Why coyote while e 752 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: coyote super genius. Let's go to the phones though, where 753 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: Steve and Buffalo is waiting for us. Steve, what do 754 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: you have for us? You're one bills live hid the afternoon. 755 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: I have a question, if you're the Bills, do you 756 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: ever deal with mckissic's agent again, because there could have 757 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,479 Speaker 1: been other rastations and other people they could have had, 758 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: and they didn't yet because they thought they had him. Yeah, 759 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: I doubt that. Here's the thing, um, there's nothing that 760 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: says that mckissic's agent didn't fully make the Bills aware 761 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: of what it was going on. They were the Redskins 762 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: have said they were going to match it again. We 763 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: get I hate myself all right, So the Washington there's 764 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: nothing that says that mckissic's agent didn't tell the Bills 765 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: that the commanders had told him they were going to 766 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,959 Speaker 1: match everything, and the Bills, like everybody else, had reason 767 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: to believe that the Washington commanders weren't telling the truth. 768 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: So they'd make him a good faith offer and if 769 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: it worked, it worked. If it didn't, that's fine, But 770 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: at least they were made aware. We don't know that 771 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: mckissick's agent didn't tell him the full story. According to Schefter, 772 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: who quoted the agents, Washington never made an offer to 773 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: him right when the legal negotiating window opened. They only 774 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: called after they heard reports that he had agreed to 775 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: terms with the bills, and then they offered to match it. 776 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: And so the agent probably didn't know any better. He 777 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: didn't know they were going to do that. Yeah, and 778 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: these are two veteran agents. These aren't a couple of newbies. 779 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: And to say that, because of the way this turned out, 780 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: you're not going to do business with the agent again, 781 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of foolish. What happens if you draft a 782 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: guy that has those guys as agents, right, not going 783 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: to draft the guy. Here's the thing, you know what 784 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean? And it's pretty it's it's easily verifiable. You know. 785 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: They said, like, we didn't tell him that when you 786 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: guys signed him for that, we thought we could still 787 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: fit him in, so we made an offer that we 788 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: didn't think we were going to be able to make 789 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: that would be taken seriously that you know. So there's 790 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: nothing that says the agents were, you know, culpable of 791 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: any wrongdoing at all. So I get your point, but 792 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: that's just that's the way business is done. And you 793 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: get caught in these situations sometimes where a team thinks 794 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: they're out of the running, lets the guy go, and 795 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: the Bills have done it too. They you know, it's 796 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: the same thing that the Bills are doing with cold Bees. 797 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: Its hey, go out and see if you can find 798 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: somebody to trade with. And then which is another thing 799 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: that's probably got to drop by the end of the day. 800 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: That's right. So all this stuff is out there and 801 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: it is you're right, Steve from Buffalo. If the agent 802 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,720 Speaker 1: gets caught saying something that's not true or doing something 803 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: that he said he was not gonna do, and vice versa. 804 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: The club, gms, whatever they're all, it affects all their 805 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: credibility in the business, so nobody really does. From to 806 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: my in my experience, most agents know that they're not 807 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: gonna they're not gonna lie, and they're not gonna misrepresent 808 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: the gonna do anything. They're gonna be as honest as 809 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: they possibly can. And when all this stuff starts happening 810 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 1: like this, when guys reversed, it's not the agent, it's 811 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,479 Speaker 1: the guy the agent works for. You can the old 812 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: thing about well I trusted my agent. No, the player 813 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: signs the agent's paycheck. So it's the player, not the agent. 814 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: I know. We all have these these stereotypes in our 815 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: mind about how these these CD agents, these greasy guys 816 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: that hang around, you know, and they make these deals 817 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: behind No. No, the agent works for the player. So 818 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: if it happens that way, it's on the player, not 819 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: the agent. Always, yeah, And that's that's where it's gonna sit, 820 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: with the player, not the agent. We have to take 821 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: a break here. When we come back, we're gonna be 822 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: joined by OutKick NFL writer Armando Saligero. We'll talk to 823 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: him about some of the reported signings around the league, 824 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: including those of the bills. Plenty to get to with 825 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: Armando neck Tier on one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 826 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has 827 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: been all all over the fields. Kind of unique. He 828 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 1: was kind of a dual role player for you, Stave, 829 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated beer 830 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: of normalcy. All right. There we go into our number 831 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: two on a Wednesday, and just a couple of hours 832 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: away from free agent contracts becoming official with signatures, and 833 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: pleased to be joined now by out Kick, senior NFL 834 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: writer Paul pro Football Hall of Fame voter and former 835 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: Dolphins columnist for the Miami Herald. It is one Armando 836 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: Solgaro joining us. Armando, good to have you. It's a 837 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: busy time of year for all of us in light 838 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: of the goings on in the league. Of the new 839 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: league year starts today, and we learned very quickly today, Armando, 840 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 1: that until people sign on the dotted line, nothing is official. Yeah, 841 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: an agreement is an agreement, is an agreement, but it's 842 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: not an official contract signing. And obviously you're referring to j. D. McKissick. 843 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: Backing out on the Buffalo Bills and go back to 844 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, which you know, I look at that, 845 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: and the Commanders are spending the day get you know, 846 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: releasing a bunch of players. They've released three players today. 847 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna be releasing more before the day is through. 848 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: But I guess JD. McKissick has something in Washington that 849 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 1: he really loves. Yeah, apparently, and it's not worth leaving 850 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 1: for it. And there's been a couple of guys who 851 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: have been releasing. Most notably we've been talking about this 852 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: last segment matt Ionidas, who was not happy he was released, 853 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: and feel and his agents have referred to him as 854 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 1: being lied to by that club. Un that's not good public. Yeah, 855 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: he's probably that that bridge is probably burned. H So 856 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: I and I this is gonna be a free as 857 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: a free agent. Um, Why is it you think that 858 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: for somebody like Jade McKissick, an organization that is hated 859 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: by some of his teammates for lying to him, Jady 860 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: mckissic walks back to whatever he's going on in his 861 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: personal life must be pretty strong to keep him there 862 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 1: in Washington, right. It has to be a personal life thing, 863 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: because if you, if you really think about it, seem 864 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: the story is that he wasn't getting a contract offer 865 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: from the Commanders. He went and got one that he 866 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: liked from the Buffalo Bills, and then when the commanders 867 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: saw the one that he got from the Buffalo Bills, 868 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: they decided we can do that too. If I'm JD. McKissick, 869 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, why didn't you do it? To 870 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: begin with? Why were you late to the party? Why 871 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: did I have to go out and basically sell my 872 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: abilities to other teams for you to recognize those abilities 873 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: and want them back. Obviously he's not doing that thought dynamic, 874 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: but Brice should have. We are all sitting here and 875 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: waiting for the final decision to be made on the 876 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson situation, meeting with the Falcons today, a team that, 877 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: according to reports, he reached out to, you know, having 878 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: been a former ball boy in YadA, YadA, YadA, whatever. Whatever. 879 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: But the most fascinating part of this whole thing for me, 880 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: Armando is the fact that, at least according to reports 881 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: by multiple people, if you're an interested party, you had 882 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: to submit a trade proposal to the Texans and they 883 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: had to like what the proposal and contained to even 884 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: meet with Watson. I find that fascinating. How did that 885 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: grab you? It grabbed me as there's a lot of 886 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: teams that need an elite quarterback and they'll do whatever 887 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: is necessary, jump through whatever hoops are necessary, including offering 888 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: the trade that the Houston Texans are comfortable with in advance, 889 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: knowing that there's not going to be a whole lot 890 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: of negotiating because, by the way, if you don't do it, 891 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: the other two teams or three teams will. So yeah, 892 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: I understand it's not typical, but typically elite quarterbacks aren't 893 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,439 Speaker 1: available in trade. And we saw the list, you know, Atlanta, 894 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Carolina and now Cleveland as well in Atlanta 895 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: and Atlanta. Is it interesting to you to think about 896 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: which teams did not meet the criteria or that submitted 897 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: a trade offer that was rejected by the Texans. Was 898 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: there any or what do you think about that list 899 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: that we don't know exists. Well, I know that a 900 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 1: lot of teams had early interest and then back the way, 901 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers decided, now we're not going to do that. 902 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins, who were all in last year, decided no, 903 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: we're not going to be part of it this year. 904 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks, which now need a quarterback after trading 905 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, didn't jump in, And that was the most 906 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: surprising one to me, because it seems to me that 907 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: that would be a team that, if they want to 908 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: continue to compete, Deshaun Watson would be the guy that 909 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: they do it with. Is it gonna be the same 910 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks with a Marcus mar Riota or you know, 911 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: I doubt that the San Francisco forty nine years are 912 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna trade Jimmy Garoppolo within the division, So they've got 913 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: to do something in free agency with Mariota or Jameis Winston. 914 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: And then there's the Jacksonville Jaguars, Armando. Someone's gonna have 915 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 1: to explain to me how they see building football teams 916 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: works from a philosophical perspective, because while I respect the 917 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: fact that they've got big holes to fill and they 918 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: got plenty of money to spend, that doesn't mean you 919 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: spend all of it in one off season. And yet 920 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: here we are. I mean, they're upwards a two hundred 921 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: and seventy million in total value of contracts in two 922 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,879 Speaker 1: and a half days. And while you can argue they're 923 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: better on paper now than they were. It's just I 924 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: was talking to Steve about this and I kind of 925 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,479 Speaker 1: said this tongue in cheek, the players that go there 926 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: and then they're kicked out on their rear end two 927 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: years later. They got to feel like they had the 928 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: Jacksonville cleans because they cycle through people so quickly. I mean, 929 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: Miles jack draft pick out on the street, Levisca. You 930 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: know they're talking about trading him now after drafting him 931 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: just two years ago. DJ Chark thrown overboard he signs 932 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: with Detroit. I mean, who's to say these guys they 933 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: just signed in the last two days aren't going to 934 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: be on a rail out of there in two more years. 935 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 1: It's just it seems like there's this constant cycle in churn. 936 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,959 Speaker 1: I don't know how you ever expect to get good. Yeah. 937 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: I think Don Peterson is hoping to stop that. Obviously, 938 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: when you get a new coach in, there's going to 939 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: be a certain amount of roster churning. And those aren't 940 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: his guys anymore, and so off they go. I would 941 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: say this to you, they needed to cleanse. That's a 942 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 1: terrible team the last couple of years, and it's proven 943 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: by the fact that they had the first overall pick 944 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 1: last year. They're gonna have the first overall pick this year. 945 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: A general manager once told me, when I asked them, 946 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: are you going to change things around? He said to me, 947 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: we were six and ten. If I don't change things around, 948 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. The Jackson Taguars won three games. If 949 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: they don't change things around, they're idiots. And so I 950 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: understand the philosophical you know, idea of staying the course 951 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: and you know, kind of continuity and all that, but 952 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: in some places, oh my god, take the trash out 953 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: and let's go. Yeah. And then you've got other teams 954 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: that like the Green Bay Packers, who just signed Aaron 955 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers to a monster deal and which also hamstrings their 956 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: ability perhaps to sign Davante Adams to a long term deal, 957 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: although you know they'll try and make it work. Davante 958 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: has said he's not going to sign the franchise tender 959 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: that will be twenty point something million dollars for this year. 960 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: What do you think, how do you think that lands? 961 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 1: And because and all the stuff that Aaron Rodgers said 962 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: we heard last year last offseason, Aaron Rodgers doesn't like 963 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: the way you know he doesn't. He wants to make 964 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: sure he's got weapons. He doesn't want Davanta Adams. How 965 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: they handled Davontae Adams is going to mean a lot 966 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: to me. Well, then he signs his monster deal, and 967 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: now Davanta Adams is being forced to play under the 968 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: franchise tag, which he says he's not going to sign it. 969 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: It went from being bad about Aaron Rodgers to now 970 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: being bad about Davonte Adams. How do you think that's 971 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna work out. I think it's gonna work out that 972 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to be throwing touchdown passes to 973 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: Davanta Adams in the twenty twenty two season. And the 974 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: way it will work is Davante Adams will get a 975 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: new contract, and the way it will work is that 976 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: new contract will have a much lower cap number than 977 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 1: the twenty million dollar franchise tag that they're carrying on him. Now, 978 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: what we're seeing now is the tit for tat of 979 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: contract negotiation. One side takes a stance, the other side 980 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: takes a stance. Both sides know they're gonna end up 981 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 1: together anyway, and that's what I think will happen. Davante 982 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: Adams will be catching touchdown passes for Aaron Rodgers. Think 983 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 1: of the think of the the option. The option is 984 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: that they trade Davante Adams. How is that gonna make 985 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers happy? That's gonna like ruin his like weeks. 986 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: And that's not what the green Bay Packers are trying 987 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: to do now. They're trying to be happy Aaron Rodgers 988 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: on the field, malcontent Aaron Rodgers on the field. Well, 989 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: one problem that they're gonna it'll it's gonna force the 990 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: green Bay package to do something they've always always refused 991 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: to do. Certainly they do it for quarterbacks, but they 992 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: have never guaranteed any money passed the first year of 993 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: a player's contract who was not a starting quarterback. That 994 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: would lowering the cap number would almost it makes it 995 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: impossible not to do for them, Right with Davonte Adams. 996 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: You think that's the change that's on the horizon for 997 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers franchise. Absolutely, something else they have 998 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 1: refused to do since twenty eleven is with a Super 999 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Bowl and so and so they want to, you know, 1000 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: kind of change that course as well. And they probably 1001 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: are less likely to do it if they don't have 1002 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Davante Adams catching passes from Aaron Rodgers what you I 1003 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: don't want to say I took pleasure in this, because 1004 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 1: I did not. But I think Steelers fans have been 1005 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: spoiled for a very long time and they don't know 1006 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: how the vast majority of the rest of the league 1007 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 1: has had to live without an answer, a proven answer 1008 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 1: at quarterback. They signed Mitchell Trubisky, who has at least 1009 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: incentives in his contract where if he does become the starter, 1010 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: he will cash into the tune of about twenty seven 1011 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: million dollars. But this signing is going over like a 1012 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: lead balloon in Pittsburgh. I don't know what they were expecting. 1013 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Clearly they were expecting more, but the social media response 1014 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: to the signing of Trubisky in Pittsburgh was a lot 1015 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 1: more negative than I anticipated it being. And I guess 1016 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: they view him as a total cast off. And the 1017 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Steelers standards are higher than that. The standard is the 1018 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: standard and all of this, but you could do a 1019 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: lot worse than Mitchell Trubisky. And you know, with that 1020 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: oc there, Matt Canada, I'd like to think that they'd 1021 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: be able to find a way to put something together 1022 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: that works for him, you know, putting him on the 1023 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: move and not making him a pocket passer. Right and 1024 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: having said all that, is Mitchell Trubisky good because I mean, 1025 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: what did he throw eight eight passes last year for 1026 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,919 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills completed I think six of them? And 1027 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: that makes him a starter again in the NFL. Look, 1028 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: I think that what the Steelers did is they're trying 1029 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: to make chicken salad out of something else, and so 1030 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: they are paying Trubisky with the hope and the upside 1031 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: that he can indeed play like the number two overall 1032 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: pick in the draft, which he was once upon a time, 1033 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: but they're also being cautious that if he is the 1034 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: guy that washed out in Chicago, they can move on 1035 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: and go in another direction. I think this is the 1036 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna see what he is, We're going to hedge 1037 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: our bet, we're not gonna pay him. He's, at least 1038 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: from the Mitchell Trabisky side, he's getting a chance to 1039 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 1: start again, which he didn't have last year. And so 1040 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a win win for everyone, but it's 1041 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: not a bad situation if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers. Look, 1042 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: if mitche Trobiski is bad. They're gonna have a hide, 1043 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, draft pick in the twenty twenty three draft 1044 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: when the quarterbacks coming out are supposedly going to be 1045 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 1: better than they are in this year's draft. So let's 1046 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: move down. I want to talk about the team you've 1047 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 1: covered for so long. You're in South Florida. Teddy bridgewaters 1048 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: the Ladies. He grees to us a one year deal 1049 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: to back up to Emmanuel Ogba for four years for 1050 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Cedric Wilson three years twenty two point five, 1051 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds, Keion Crossing, Teddy and Teddy of course, and 1052 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: of course Gisiki the tight end has been franchised. What 1053 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: do you think about the new head coach, the new vibe, 1054 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: and the moves they've made this offseason. What's it looking 1055 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: like in the twenty twenty two season for the Miami Dolphins. 1056 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: So Teddy Bridgewater signs and he is getting advice from 1057 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: the same person who advised Jacoby Brissette, who is their 1058 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: backup last year, and that is Bill Parcels, and Parcels 1059 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: has told both those guys, you go to Miami as 1060 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 1: the backup. Chances are good you're gonna play during the season. 1061 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: Brissette played last year, Bridgewater expects to play this year. 1062 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 1: Not because they're gonna beat out necessarily two a tongue 1063 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 1: of by law, but because they think that two a 1064 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: tongue of by laws ability is a question mark, and 1065 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: rightfully so it is a question mark. So that's the 1066 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:10,439 Speaker 1: case with Teddy Bridgewater coming home to Miami and the 1067 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: second part, the second chapter of that decision as well. 1068 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Now what they've done with the new head coach. So 1069 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: he comes to the Dolphins with a reputation as a 1070 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: very brilliant person and God bless him. He went to Yale. 1071 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: He's an Ivy League guy, so he's obviously smart, and 1072 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna bring to San Francisco forty nine ers with 1073 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: his little tweaks. Their offense is going to come to Miami. 1074 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 1: So whatever you saw the forty nine ers do last year, 1075 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: that's what you're going to see the Miami Dolphins do 1076 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: on offense this year. The Dolphins defense is going to 1077 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: remain mostly the same. I would expect a little bit 1078 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: of a drawback from them because, let's face it, Brian 1079 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: Flores was really the mind behind that defense and he's 1080 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 1: gone as the head coach. So supposing they improve a 1081 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 1: little bit on offense. Supposing they don't improve on defense, 1082 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: there's still a team looking up at in the a 1083 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 1: f C. Let me see, let me go down the list. 1084 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, 1085 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: and some other guy whose name escapes me. Is it 1086 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allen? Josh Allen? So how do they And by 1087 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: the way, if if Deshaun Watson gets traded to Cleveland, 1088 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 1: add him to the list in the AFC, the Miami 1089 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Dolphins are you know, they're They're looking up at a 1090 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of teams right now. Last one I've got four 1091 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Yarmando concerns the latest coach higher by the Bills, Mike 1092 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Shula added as a senior offensive assistant on the Bill's staff. 1093 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,479 Speaker 1: As it's become very clear that Sean McDermott is trying 1094 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: to surround new oc Ken Dorsey, who you also know 1095 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: very well from his Miami days as a player, with 1096 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: as much experience as possible, they're trying to have enough 1097 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: counsel for him, knowing it's his first year as a 1098 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: play caller in his coaching career. So now he has 1099 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: Mike Shula. He's got Joe Brady as a quarterbacks coach, 1100 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 1: But what can you tell us about Shula? I know 1101 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: the two have worked together in Carolina previously, but what 1102 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 1: can you tell us just about Shula having been around him? Well, 1103 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, the fruit does not fall far from the tree. 1104 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Don Shula's son is all about integrity, as his dad was. 1105 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:54,440 Speaker 1: He is a bright mind, is a disciplinarian. He knows 1106 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 1: how it should look and he knows how it should 1107 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: be done, and so all those things together. He is 1108 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: a first in the building, last out of the building 1109 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,800 Speaker 1: type of guy. He's a hard worker. What else do 1110 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 1: you want to as an example for not only your players, 1111 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: but some other coaches on you know, on the staff. Armando, great, 1112 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 1: always talking to you. Thanks for spending some time with us. Man. 1113 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 1: It's my pleasure, always my pleasure. Guys, all right, we'll 1114 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: catch up with you down the line later in the offseason. 1115 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 1: Thanks again, Armando. That's Armando Salguero, NFL senior writer for 1116 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 1: OutKick dot Com. Joining us. Wanted to get his thoughts 1117 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: on Shula because obviously he was around him a lot 1118 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 1: covering the Dolphins over the years when he was down there, 1119 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,480 Speaker 1: and this is uh. And while we're on with Armando, 1120 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: stuff still happening. Four time Pro Bowl pass rusher. I 1121 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: think we've all heard of him. Chandler's Jones. It looks 1122 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 1: like he's finalizing a deal with the Raiders. So all 1123 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: the people here in Buffalo thought Chandler Jones is gonna 1124 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: come to Buffalo. He's signing. It looks like it's gonna 1125 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: be around seven teen million a year for the Raiders. 1126 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: The bills we're never gonna get in that ballpark never, 1127 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: So there's that relief and kind of uh, I don't 1128 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: know if I don't know if relief is the word 1129 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 1: because a consolation prize, I got a bills. Fans we're hoping, Yeah, 1130 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,640 Speaker 1: I think unrealistically so rum because he's a top of 1131 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 1: the market guy. They're not going to be able to 1132 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 1: compete for the top of the market guy with their 1133 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 1: cap situation as it is. Even with the money they 1134 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 1: were clearing out, it wasn't going to get them to 1135 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: a place where they would if you sign him, it's 1136 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: all gone. And now how are you signing your draft class? 1137 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 1: And think how are you filling other holes on this right? 1138 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: Do you think about what the Raiders are doing. You know, 1139 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: they just paid top dollar to their pass rusher, Max Cross. 1140 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 1: Max Cross. Now you got two guys. You got two 1141 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,439 Speaker 1: guys that are bookending there in the AFC West again. 1142 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,800 Speaker 1: And so what happens after that? Now the Raiders have 1143 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: turned around and they're gonna move Janick and Goaqway off 1144 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 1: the roster, as sources are telling NFL Networks eating rapaport 1145 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,680 Speaker 1: that Yannick and Goackway is expected to be traded to 1146 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: the Colts in a deal that includes cornerback Rock your 1147 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Sin going back to the Raiders in the deal. So 1148 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,760 Speaker 1: you got two pass rushers that you're paying seventeen and 1149 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 1: twenty million a year, you better move the other pass 1150 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 1: rusher off your roster that you can't afford anymore. Yeah, 1151 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 1: and it's happening all over the league. Now you get 1152 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,640 Speaker 1: these guys signing and the team's well, we can't now 1153 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? We gotta get rid of 1154 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: some guys, like the Chargers are signing. All these guys 1155 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 1: are these huge contracts. Now they've got they've got to 1156 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 1: let U Chenet and Woolsu go and he's going to 1157 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So a good pass rusher for the Chargers, 1158 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 1: who are you know, bolstering Now They've got j C. Jackson, 1159 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 1: they just signed two big times and they have Joey 1160 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Bosa and Khalil Mack. They got Joey Bosa, got Khalil Mack. 1161 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Now they got to get rid of this guy. Uh. 1162 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 1: Certainly they're trading up, you would think with Khalil Mack 1163 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: coming into the fold, but they're losing good players. It 1164 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 1: all reminds me you can't just stockpiled dudes anymore. You can, 1165 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 1: you can't do it. It reminds me more than ever 1166 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 1: of the comment that comedian Jerry signed Field once made 1167 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: about rooting for teams. The player movement maybe now more 1168 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 1: than ever makes his comment maybe more valid than it's 1169 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,600 Speaker 1: ever been before. You're not rooting for favorite players anymore, 1170 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 1: as he said, you're rooting for laundry. I mean, that's 1171 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 1: what you're rooting for now. Because the player movement this 1172 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: league has become so transient, and with teams so cutthroat 1173 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 1: in their desire to win the whole thing, and the 1174 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Rams being successful in adopting that kind of a model, 1175 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: that will switch part A out for part B. And 1176 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 1: we'll be better here if we grab this guy just 1177 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 1: for a season. Now. They've drafted well too. I think 1178 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 1: that is the one misnomer about the Rams. They've drafted 1179 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: relatively well also, But I think people the patience in 1180 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,560 Speaker 1: this league has owned the baby out with the bathwater 1181 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 1: in many instances, and building a team to be perennially successful, 1182 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 1: it's few and far between in this league. I think 1183 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo still adopts that model and still subscribes to it. 1184 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: There are other teams that you can probably tick off 1185 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: the list in that category as well, But the vast 1186 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: majority of these teams are saying, the hell with building, 1187 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: Let's just throw it together and see if it works. 1188 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,639 Speaker 1: Let's push all our chips in and overspend a little 1189 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 1: bit here and a little bit there, a little bit 1190 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 1: and take a chance here and to see if we 1191 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: can get it done. And the Bills are doing it 1192 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,839 Speaker 1: and other teams do it by hitting on all cylinders. 1193 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: That means there's fifty three guys on the roster plus 1194 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: your practice squad. You've got to have all those guys 1195 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: pull them in the same direction. You've got to have 1196 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: them all and a large number of them outperforming their contracts. 1197 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: And when you sign a bunch of guys, particularly your 1198 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 1: best players, who can't do it. That means their contracts 1199 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 1: way out of whack and you've got to do something 1200 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 1: about it. Um, you don't get the production for that 1201 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 1: amount of your salary cap that you're spending. So all 1202 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 1: of that stuff, all of that stuff means you've got 1203 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,640 Speaker 1: you've got problems. You can't You've got to, you know, 1204 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: do it from the ground up. You've got to get 1205 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: guys who are really motivated to play, and they're motivated 1206 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: by their you know what's inside of them, plus the 1207 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,640 Speaker 1: fact that they want to do they do want to 1208 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 1: hit a home run financially. Um, yeah, I think Sean 1209 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: McDermott and his coaching staff. Certainly Brandon Bean gets a 1210 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of credit for the rosters he's built, but Sean 1211 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott really deserves a lot of credit and his 1212 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 1: staff for developing these guys and getting him to play hard. 1213 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times have we scratched our head 1214 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: on game day and say why is he sitting down today? 1215 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Why is that guy sitting down? And then later on 1216 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 1: in the game ISAIH. McKenzie is a perfect example. Later 1217 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 1: on the season, they come out and they're playing like 1218 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 1: Gangbusters at the point where the team is right where 1219 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: it wants to be. This team was headed into the 1220 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: playoffs as the three seed, healthier than any team in 1221 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 1: the National Football League and absolutely humming on all cylinders. 1222 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 1: And they hit the playoffs like that. They played two 1223 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: tremendously tremendous playoff game before being eliminated in the second one. 1224 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 1: It was so that's McDermott deserves a lot of credit 1225 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,040 Speaker 1: for how he handles this philosophy of bargain hunting in 1226 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,600 Speaker 1: free agency as much as Brandon Bean does. So the 1227 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 1: two of them together have been really productive and successful. 1228 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 1: We'll see if it continues. Break time for us here 1229 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,919 Speaker 1: Steve and I with more, including some of your comments 1230 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet and your phone calls. At eight three, 1231 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: five fifty, we're back in a moment here on One 1232 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1233 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 1: All right, It's One Bills Live. As we inch closer 1234 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 1: to the official start of the new league year, four 1235 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 1: pm will be the time when free agents that have 1236 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: agreed to terms on new contracts, either with their existing 1237 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 1: club or a new club, can put pen to paper 1238 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: and make it official, so that will be happening in 1239 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,759 Speaker 1: short order. We are still waiting for a final decision 1240 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: on Cole Beasley, who the week of the combine was 1241 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: given permission to seek a trade with another club, and 1242 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,479 Speaker 1: you know, if it nothing yet nothing to this point, 1243 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,680 Speaker 1: and if a trade does not happen, there are two 1244 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: things that can happen after that. He can be released 1245 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: by the club, which would save the team approximately another 1246 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: six million dollars on the cap, or they could try 1247 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 1: to renegotiate his existing contract to lower his cap figure 1248 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,679 Speaker 1: and keep him in the fold, which Brandon Bean has 1249 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,160 Speaker 1: not ruled out. So we'll have to see where that goes. 1250 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 1: And I would imagine creating as much cap space as 1251 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: they can is still on the docket for Brandon being 1252 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,639 Speaker 1: going forward and knowing he would do that, it's interesting. 1253 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 1: So we shall see what comes on that front, right 1254 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 1: And if you're just joining us and you hadn't seen already, 1255 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,520 Speaker 1: Free agent running back j D McKissick, who was reportedly 1256 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: poised to sign a two year, seven million dollars deal 1257 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,680 Speaker 1: with the Bills, has reversed course and chosen to resign 1258 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 1: with Washington for the identical terms. Apparently the Bills did 1259 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 1: all the legwork in terms of putting a contract together, 1260 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: and after Washington heard of those reports, at, oh, well, 1261 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,200 Speaker 1: we'd we'd love to have him back for that amount 1262 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 1: of money. Why don't you just come back to the Commanders, right, 1263 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 1: And so obviously coming into the show, we put this 1264 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: out on social like, you know, what's your favorite move 1265 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 1: of what's your as a Bills fan, what's your favorite 1266 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 1: move the Bills have made this offseason? Know this free 1267 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: agency period, And of course about half the people on 1268 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: our tweet sheet has said, Hey McKissick, it's gonna be great. 1269 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Now it's not not so great. And obviously, with people 1270 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 1: being who and what we are as a fan base, 1271 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 1: people hate j D McKissick. Now, he's like, he's like 1272 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: down there with Jack Keel right now public enemy number two. Right. 1273 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 1: So for all the tweets we got about hey j D. 1274 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: Mckissick's my favorite move they made this offseason, might want 1275 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 1: to rethink that and delete those tweets. Yeah, the defensive 1276 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 1: end market is seeing some momentum here today. LA Chargers 1277 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 1: free agent Huchenna Nwosu, who probably did not have a 1278 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: home with the Chargers anymore after they acquired Khalil Mack 1279 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,679 Speaker 1: in a trade with the Chicago Bears. Has now signed 1280 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 1: eight or is going to sign a two year, twenty 1281 01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 1: million dollar contract with the Seahawks, So he goes up 1282 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 1: the West Coast and we'll be signing with the NFC 1283 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 1: West Club as early as four pm today. Then the 1284 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: Raiders have apparently agreed to terms with free agent pass 1285 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 1: rusher Chandler Jones, formerly of the Cardinals. It's said to 1286 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 1: be in the neighborhood of seventeen million dollars per season. 1287 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,799 Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of Bills fans hoping 1288 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 1: that the Syracuse grad and Rochester native would be coming 1289 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 1: back to Western New York, but I really never thought 1290 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 1: it was in the cards because of the price tag 1291 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 1: he could still command even at thirty one years old, 1292 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 1: and seventeen million a year was just a ballpark the 1293 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 1: Bills could not even play in with their cap situation. 1294 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 1: So I think the reality here is if you didn't 1295 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 1: know it before, you certainly know it now. The reality 1296 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 1: of the situation is if the Bills are going to 1297 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 1: bring in a veteran pass rusher that has proven production, 1298 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 1: in all likelihood it is going to be on a 1299 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 1: one year deal, and it's going to be at a 1300 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: very affordable price because the Bills just don't have the 1301 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 1: cap space to compete at that level that we just 1302 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 1: saw Chandler Jones sign with the Raiders, and the Raiders 1303 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 1: in turn have swung a trade as they have moved 1304 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: defensive end Yannick and Goakway off of their roster, sending 1305 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 1: him to the Colts in exchange for cornerback Rock your Sin. 1306 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: It's not clear if there's going to be other option. 1307 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Other parts of that trade included going back to the Raiders. 1308 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but that's kind of where it stands. 1309 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,519 Speaker 1: As if you're talking about a defensive ends and so 1310 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 1: like they say edge rusher slash defensive end, there's edge 1311 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: rushers usually to me or connotating a guy lighter, a smaller, 1312 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: faster guy could play OLB outside linebacker, which is something 1313 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: the Bills do not need because they play a four 1314 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 1: man front. I still, even at thirty five years old, 1315 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:03,640 Speaker 1: I have always loved Is Campbell, defensive tackle by trade. Right, 1316 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,559 Speaker 1: he's listed as a defensive end, and he's got some 1317 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 1: versatilities played for everybody he's been around the league forever. Yeah, 1318 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's three oh five. I think he's an 1319 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 1: inside guy, but he's a late in his career. But 1320 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 1: he's also four six eight. Yeah, he's huge, another big body. 1321 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,559 Speaker 1: I think they need to find Jpps out there, right. 1322 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 1: I think they gotta go a little further down the 1323 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 1: list and can find somebody that will come here and 1324 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 1: play on a one year deal. I think for Bills 1325 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 1: fans to get a handle on what that looks like, 1326 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at what the Buffalo 1327 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Bills have done in the free agent market at the 1328 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 1: cornerback position. One year contract for a Josh Norman, one 1329 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 1: year contract for a Kevin Johnson. Players like that, You're 1330 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: gonna have to look for a similar value at the 1331 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,640 Speaker 1: defensive end position in the form of a veteran and 1332 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,960 Speaker 1: if more often than not, the price tag stays higher 1333 01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,719 Speaker 1: at defensive end than it does at cornerback as players 1334 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 1: move into their early thirty If you're looking for a 1335 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 1: guy that fits the mold of a Tim Settle at 1336 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 1: defensive end, a young guy who was behind a really 1337 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,760 Speaker 1: deep depth chart, who had trouble getting on the field 1338 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 1: because the guys in front of him were very highly 1339 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 1: drafted or very highly paid, you're looking at a guy 1340 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:24,719 Speaker 1: like like from Cleveland, Takarist McKinley, Tach McKinley bounced around 1341 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 1: twenty six. That's a guy that you could probably get 1342 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 1: way less expensively than others, and he'd have something on 1343 01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 1: his show, on his you know, something to prove. Then 1344 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 1: you're going like Morgan Fox, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, al 1345 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 1: Kadeen Muhammed. I don't even know if they're gonna be 1346 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 1: able to afford Barnett, right, So these guys are down 1347 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 1: the list, Jahad Warden and these guys are all in 1348 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:54,560 Speaker 1: their mid twenties, Isaac rochelle Um, you know, then Stephen Weatherly, 1349 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: guys that a lot of probably maybe a lot of 1350 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Bills fans don't even know, DeMarcus Walker, Kimoko Ture, Tyler Lancaster. 1351 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm going down. These are the young guy, young defensive 1352 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 1: ends that are out on the free agent market that 1353 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,800 Speaker 1: have played a little bit in the league but haven't 1354 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,719 Speaker 1: found their footing. It would be a lot like depending 1355 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,400 Speaker 1: on what the physical traits are for each of these guys, 1356 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 1: it would be a lot like grabbing a guy off 1357 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:27,240 Speaker 1: the free agent pile like Boogie Basham and Greg Morris 1358 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 1: and ed All. They're that young. That's how young. Think 1359 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,680 Speaker 1: they've got to go older, right, but still stay affordable. 1360 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: How much can you get? How much? What is it 1361 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna take to sign a thirty three year old Jason 1362 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: Pierre Paul on a one year deal? Can you get 1363 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 1: that guy on a one year deal for seven million? 1364 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 1: A Keen Hicks is a guy like that, Um, let's 1365 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:55,000 Speaker 1: go down. William Goldston from Tampa Bay is like that. 1366 01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 1: Justin Houston who was in Baltimore this last year. Yeah, 1367 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,839 Speaker 1: those that's probably the b and you're looking to spend anywhere. 1368 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 1: Okafour is out there. I mean, you're looking seven eight 1369 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 1: million dollars. You know you probably aren't going to try 1370 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 1: to pay more than that because eight million dollars alone 1371 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 1: is what you're gonna need to sign your rookie pool, right, so, 1372 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,639 Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna be in the double digit 1373 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 1: per year average annual value contract territory for a defensive 1374 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 1: end right now, right. I mean you'd have to cut 1375 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 1: a bunch more players to do that. And there's even 1376 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 1: more news on the defensive end market because NFL Networking 1377 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 1: in Rappaport is now reporting the rams are close to 1378 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 1: resigning von Miller. Wow, So there you go. And I'll say, 1379 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,599 Speaker 1: this guy, like you know guys out there, who's got 1380 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: all the physical traits you can all and we all 1381 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: know who he is, is Jadeveon Clowney. He's twenty nine 1382 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 1: played but one year and twelve million last year, right, 1383 01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: So that may be the kind of guy you're looking at, right, 1384 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 1: even less of a year than that. He doesn't seem 1385 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,559 Speaker 1: to have the bills exactly, That's exactly right. He's a veteran, 1386 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,240 Speaker 1: no question about it. He's played for the Houston Texans, 1387 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,120 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Who is the guy that was in 1388 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 1: who's even between? There was he with the Baltimore for 1389 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 1: a minute? Who was he with for a minute? Um, 1390 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 1: he's with Cleveland. He was with Seattle, then Cleveland right away? Okay, 1391 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,559 Speaker 1: so he's been with three teams. He's only twenty nine 1392 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: years old, even though it seems like he's thirty five. 1393 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 1: For as much as he's bounced around, he's a guy 1394 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 1: with all the physical tools you want. But he's got 1395 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 1: some effort issues, some questions about his effort, and that 1396 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 1: doesn't fly here, right. So he's a guy with all 1397 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 1: the traits you want, but he has not displayed the 1398 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of motor that this club wants to see out 1399 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: of a guy that has always been now say this, 1400 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,680 Speaker 1: as gifted as he is, he's much better against the 1401 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,799 Speaker 1: run than he is rushing the passer, which is strange 1402 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: if you want to think about it. But over the 1403 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 1: course of his career has been a much better run 1404 01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,679 Speaker 1: defender than he has been a pass rusher. But still 1405 01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:02,320 Speaker 1: he's always been viewed as an underachieve That right there 1406 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,640 Speaker 1: almost makes you want to take that card out of 1407 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,599 Speaker 1: the deck and toss it into the into the pile. 1408 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,680 Speaker 1: But those are the kind of guys you're looking at 1409 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 1: right now. For me, the most interesting veteran out there's 1410 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 1: the guy said first class Campbell, great teammate, wealth of experience, 1411 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 1: championship pedigree, great, there are great franchises in his rear 1412 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:32,959 Speaker 1: view mirror. But he's thirty five and he plays defensive 1413 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 1: line tennis. That's a big ask. Yeah, that's a big ask. 1414 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: But in a rotational system here, that's maybe it can work. 1415 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 1: It is player for player with the Raiders in Colts 1416 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,960 Speaker 1: trade yannicking Gokway for cornerback Rock his sin no picks 1417 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:53,080 Speaker 1: player for player. Interesting. Another backup quarterback is off the market. 1418 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco going back to the Jets one year, three 1419 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 1: and a half million plus incentives gonna be something we're 1420 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to discuss here. The backup quarterback well is 1421 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,519 Speaker 1: drying up. What are the options for Buffalo We'll discuss 1422 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,640 Speaker 1: here in a second on One Bill's Live, presented by 1423 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:23,799 Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome 1424 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. The backup quarterback market is 1425 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 1: getting thinner and thinner. Steve and I have professed our 1426 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 1: two preferences, that being Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andy Dalton. I 1427 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: have a third. We were talking we didn't tell you, 1428 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 1: We told each other during the breaks. Well we've said 1429 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,560 Speaker 1: it on the air before. I have a third that 1430 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 1: I would like to submit, and that's Kyle Allen. Only 1431 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 1: twenty six years old, former undrafted played for Carolina and 1432 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:51,440 Speaker 1: Washington twelve starts when cam shoulder fell off in Carolina, 1433 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,680 Speaker 1: has some mobility, has a good arm. I think if 1434 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 1: you're trying to if you're committed to matching skill sets 1435 01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 1: like you did last year with Mitchell Trubisk, I think 1436 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 1: you would be doing the same thing if you were 1437 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,080 Speaker 1: able to get Kyle Allen in here, Now, what's the 1438 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 1: price tag? I don't know. I can't imagine too terribly high. 1439 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 1: He came the same he came out the same year 1440 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: as Josh two. Yeah, and they're good friends too, and 1441 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 1: that's well known, right. And he's twenty six. He runs 1442 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,560 Speaker 1: the ball well with a ball in his hand. He 1443 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,760 Speaker 1: made eight hundred and fifty grand last year. I think 1444 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 1: he get him easily for nine hundred and change maybe 1445 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 1: a million. Three years with the Carolina Panthers, one year 1446 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,920 Speaker 1: with the Washington Commanders. M that's another possibility about I 1447 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,160 Speaker 1: just like the matching of skill sets, because you know 1448 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about fits. We were talking about Andy Dalton. 1449 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 1: The skill set white match couldn't be more. Kyle Allen 1450 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 1: is probably one of the best matches left in terms 1451 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,680 Speaker 1: of skill set on the free agent market. Steve I 1452 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 1: asked some good news for you. What is it? Based 1453 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 1: on your comments at the top of the show talking 1454 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield Arranged marriages versus marriaging for love and money. 1455 01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: Arranged marriages do last longer than love mannages, no doubt, 1456 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 1: they say. One of the main reasons why let me 1457 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:09,639 Speaker 1: guess okay, you walk in with different expectations lower, Yeah, expectations. Yeah, 1458 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,560 Speaker 1: you don't know the person from Adam. You're not necessarily 1459 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 1: expecting it to be all sunshine and rainbows, and you're 1460 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 1: elling to work through some stuff. Yeah, so I told 1461 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: you there. It is Steve Tasker, your new relationship therapist 1462 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live. Feel free to give a 1463 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,040 Speaker 1: call if you need to. My doctor Tasker is in. Yeah. 1464 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,599 Speaker 1: Well so we lost J. D. McKissick today. We lost 1465 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones today. I don't know if you ever had chance. 1466 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,000 Speaker 1: We never had Chandler Jones. But he's at least he's 1467 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 1: off our menu, which is nice. Well, I don't know 1468 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,200 Speaker 1: if that's nice. I think people would have loved to 1469 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,760 Speaker 1: have him. Sure, but the price tag was just going 1470 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,040 Speaker 1: to be way too steep. But I know this too. 1471 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,360 Speaker 1: We're seeing it all over the league. Everybody. If you've 1472 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,439 Speaker 1: got cap space, which the Bills are clearing up some 1473 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,400 Speaker 1: cap space, there's a lot of really, really good football 1474 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:56,920 Speaker 1: players that you're going to be able to get because 1475 01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,160 Speaker 1: everybody else who didn't spend wise lean spent there and 1476 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 1: spent their school lunch money on candy. They they're they're 1477 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 1: having to release some of that. Speaking of spending wisely, 1478 01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,879 Speaker 1: we cover that in deep detail in our latest episode 1479 01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,800 Speaker 1: of Bills by the Numbers Are Podcast, which will be 1480 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 1: out later this week. Matti glab Inform tomorrow as her 1481 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 1: and Steve talk to Mike Giardi from NFL Network. They'll 1482 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 1: see it one