WEBVTT - The Legendary Rick Springfield 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.559 And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.160 And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.080 Welcome to and that's why we really miss podcast. An 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.760 extra special special special guest today, Kevin I. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:24.840 I'm sweating already, so nice. Today is a Glee the 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:29.520 Music special, Yes, because we have one of the artists 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.720 of one of the songs that we covered and we never. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.800 Get to do that, who wrote this song and shared 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.200 with us the inspiration or the truth behind this song 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.640 and one of our favorite covers of this song by 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.120 the one and only Corey Montieth. Who do we have today, Kevin? 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:52.480 We have Rick Springfield wrote and performed Jesse's Girl. And 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.680 you know, when you look at the show, you look 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.960 at Glee, all of us had sort of our idea 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.360 and a fire in terms of a song, right, we 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.760 each had if do you think about that character and 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.880 what's one song that they did that has to be 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:13.000 their song? This was obviously Corey's slash Finn's song. He 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.319 did it on tour. We had it's one of our favorites. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.280 There was a plan for this song, like from the beginning, 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.920 it's why Jesse see James calls Jesse James, which we 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:23.440 talk about. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.679 Yeah, I feel like this is like part of the 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.800 bedrock of the foundation of what of some of the 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:30.840 music for Glee. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.600 If Corey could only see us chatting with Rick, I 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.279 know Springfield today? How cool? 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.959 Well, you guys will love this. He is the sweetest, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.600 He is so talented and we are so so fortunate 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:48.720 that he said yes again. Yeah. So here is our 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.200 interview with Rick Springfield. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.720 Hello, how the heck are you? 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:54.280 We're good? 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.000 How are you? I'm good? 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:56.520 Good? 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.560 Thank you so much for taking the time to join 0:01:58.640 --> 0:01:59.120 us today. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.520 Very well, this is very exciting and I kind of 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.080 a legend. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.760 You know, it's not every day that we we worked 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.240 on a show, a musical show and sang over seven 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.200 hundred numbers and very few times and we actually get 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.919 to talk to the people whose songs we were covering, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.680 hopefully doing them justice. You never know, we didn't know 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.160 all of them, but so it is very very special. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:27.320 Yeah. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.920 I think you did great. I love the Beagle base amazing. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.239 Well, thanks for coming on. We would love to talk 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:42.480 about Jesse's Girl. Obviously, Cory Monteeth, our late friend, you know, 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.760 cover Jesse's Girl. It's one of our favorite memories of him, 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.240 is him doing this number. This number is obviously you know, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.760 so so e thing fantastic. It's such a banger, it's 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.720 such a they're such a great hook. It's amazing. So 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.880 we're just so honored to have you. Can you tell 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:04.040 us about if your memory serves like what who came 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.600 to you with the idea of the song, What did 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.480 you know about Glee? Did you know about Glee? And 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:10.520 what made you say yes? 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.200 Who came to me to suggest it for Glee? I 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:15.359 mean just this song? 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.840 Yeah, you know, to allow us to do it? 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:18.160 Really? 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.480 Yeah, yeah, it's a no brainer. I mean, you know, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:28.040 the show was was huge and I was surprised you 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:33.760 hadn't come sooner because it's a it's a great story. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:38.560 It fits you know, a lot of scenarios, and I 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.840 think it was great. It's great to see it play 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.760 out in a scenario, you know, play because this song 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.760 is it's a story song. Yeah, yeah, so I think 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:50.200 it was great. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.520 It was great to see. And who came to me? 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.000 I don't know. My manager brought it really, you know, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.200 they do all that stuff. That's what I paid those guys. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:05.680 For exactly, the paperwork stuff. And yeah, we had Ryan 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.080 Murphy on a couple months ago when we asked him 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:13.200 if there's a character that came on named Jesse. If 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.720 we asked him if that character was named Jesse just 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.039 as a device so we could get to your song, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.599 and he said yes. So the intention was pretty early 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.200 on to find some way to get to do Jesse's Girl. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.440 And well, that's very flattering. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.560 Well, I think their intention with the show early on too, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:40.120 where to bring these songs that gigantic right and bring 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.640 him to a whole new generation, a whole new audience. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.800 And what better song to do that with than Jesse's Girl? Like, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.720 did you ever feel any sort of I don't know, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.840 feedback or like positive repercussions from that in twenty ten 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.440 having the song out, I think it ended up debuting 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.599 at like twenty eight on Billboard with the Glee version. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:04.120 Yeah, yeah, I came back. It's been. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.279 It was fortunate enough to be used for the I 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.839 think what gave it a kind of a rebirth, you know, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:11.520 the song. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:12.560 You put the song. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:17.640 Out and and and eventually it takes on a life 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.880 of its own, and you hope, and some of them don't. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.080 Some of them crash and burn and are hit and 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.280 then they go away, and some stick around, and you're 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.320 very lucky, very far. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.320 I was very fortunate to have that. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.400 I mean the Beatles had what two hundred of them, 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.040 but I'm fortunate. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.200 That I was fortunate to have certainly that one. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.520 And you've had a lot yourself. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.880 Yeah, yeah, but Jesse's Girl has kind of gone on 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.040 and on, And it was first at first was used 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.960 in a movie called what was the one about the 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.560 porno industry? Oh, I can't think of it. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.200 I know what you're talking about. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:06:06.560 Yeah, come on ten seconds five three two, Yes, that's right. 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.320 Yeah, and I kind of brought it back and then uh, 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.599 it was in there was a movie called thirty Going 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.320 on thirty that was featured. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:14.720 You know, it was kind of built around that. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:19.880 Also, incredible movies like those are also huge and incredible movies. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:20.320 Yeah. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.080 Yeah, So, as you know, it was very fortunate to 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.479 have that. And then you guys, your show was so 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.800 huge and everyone was paying so much attention to what 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.200 song you were going to pick, and you know, so 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:37.279 it was just added to the power of the song 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.599 really and you know, it's great. We actually used we 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:46.040 have an opening video when we are in a live show, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.000 and we actually. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.120 Used uh, that clip for a little while, but a 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.360 bunch of Jesse Jesse's Girl uh takes and we used 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.679 he used his clip, but was very cool, very sad, 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.280 very sad because we did it before he passed away, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.280 so it was very very sad to see afterwards. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.640 So, yeah, you said Jesse's Girl is a story song. Obviously, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.400 is there a Jesse in your life? I'm just curious 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.200 of the inspiration. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:14.280 For this song. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:19.320 Yeah, very much so. His name was Gary, but it didn't. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.440 It didn't work in the song. It didn't sing, so 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.040 I had to pick another, pick another name. Sorry for 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.640 all the Gary's out there, you love it name, It 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.000 didn't it didn't work in the song. And Yeah, I 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:35.480 was actually going to it was nineteen seventy nine and 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.880 I was concerned. I'd had three albums out and hadn't 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.559 done anything, and I hadn't acted in a while. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.600 I was thinking maybe I should start looking elsewhere for 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.000 a career. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.360 And although I never I never really gave it up, 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:51.920 but you know, I just I was kind of worried, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.080 and I started found the stained glass class. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.200 Oh it loved I love our Heart, I love working 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.960 in my hands, and this stained glass class. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.960 I started going to it to make stained glass, you know, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.280 windows and stuff, with the intention of supporting my future 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:10.400 family with my stained glass mastery, which is pretty insane, but. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.760 You're an artists, can't stop. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:15.000 But there was a. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.760 Girl there and uh, and I don't I don't remember 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.000 her name because she would I couldn't get closer to her, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:21.800 hence the song. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:22.760 But I know his name. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.760 Her boyfriend was in the in the class as well, 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.240 and his name is Gary. And no, I tried in 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.160 my own way to try and let her know that 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.360 I thought she was hot, but she wanted nothing to 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:35.760 do with me. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.880 She was she had her eyes only for a boyfriend. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.320 And I basically, you know, hadn't written in a while, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.280 and I took my sexual anks home and picked up 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.160 a guitar and wrote wrote the song. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.720 Just one of the biggest songs of all time, no 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:50.120 big deal. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:55.439 Yeah, inspired by stained glass. Yeah, pretty incredible. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.079 So you said, you know, you write a song, and 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.160 there's probably some songs you write that you want to be, 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.920 the ones that are gigantic, and maybe they aren't, and 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.800 there's some you don't think anything of, and those are 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:18.280 the ones that take off. This song obviously has been covered, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.520 has been used for so many things. When somebody asks 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.120 to use the song, or you see different covers of it, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.040 are there any times you look back and you're just like, eh, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.520 maybe I shouldn't have said yes to that, or maybe 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.920 this cover. You know, we look back at our show, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:40.840 we're like, we didn't get this number right, or like, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.680 I wonder how the artist feels about this version. I'm 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.360 not going to ask you to give us a detail 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.760 analysis of our version of your song, but sometimes, you know, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.319 as someone who has sold twenty five million albums, and 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.280 when people cover your songs, you're like, it's so special 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.120 and it's amazing that people are so into it. Sometimes 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.000 maybe it's not great they use it on a big 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.680 public platform. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.040 I have not disliked any of the versions. It was 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.920 actually a girl did a version. I wish I can 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.040 remember her name. She had a great she's gay and 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.400 she uh I did it, you know, as a girl 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.200 singing to a girl, and it was it was very, 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:22.240 very very sexy. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.800 It was amazing. I'd love to think of her name. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.760 I'm sorry that I can right now, but it's it's on. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:35.440 It's on, you know, uh, the all the sights and everything. Yeah, strange, 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:41.280 it's very very cool and the brass the school brass 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.480 band playing Justice Girl. Now was that left a little 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.520 a little to be desired, But it was very cute, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:53.160 you know that. I know, I'm flattered at anytime anyone 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.439 wants to take a shot at it. Great versions. It 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:02.320 was a school choir. Get a very hip a cappella 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:07.840 version of it, you know. And I've heard some interesting 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.559 versions walking by bars. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.839 Oh my god, I cannot even imagine. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.079 Most of the time, it's it's flattering, you know, very flattering. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.440 Yeah, Speaking of evolution of Jesse's Girl, you have a 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:27.120 new album coming out Automatic Congratulations, and just another just 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.959 continuing to make music. It's it's fantastic. What how would 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.439 you say that your music has evolved, your storytelling has 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:41.679 evolved over your career. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.000 Storytelling, I'd say the emphasis has gone a little off sex, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.439 not quite as much as it used to be. I 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:53.560 think there's a sign of age, you know. I always 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.280 say my favorite three favorites, which this album is about, 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.760 Automatic is about and the last one was a blues 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.920 album that they had called The Snake Can. We're about 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:09.560 my three favorite subjects, God, sex and death, and I 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:19.600 find them the most inspirational, you know, of sorts, but 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.240 I you know, it's from relationships mainly, and it can 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.840 be like this new album, some of the songs the 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:33.200 subject matter goes back ten twenty years. You know, it's 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.800 just something will hit me, and you know, you never 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:42.800 really lose the If something's meaningful. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.920 To you, you. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.160 Can go back to it, right, you know, you can 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:46.839 go back to it and feel all the emotions, even 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.040 if it happened twenty years ago. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:49.480 You know, it's always there. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.600 So I draw from that as well as well as 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.640 you know, things like a couple of friend I lost 0:12:55.640 --> 0:13:00.240 a very dear couple of friends last year within six 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.360 months of each other, and I just happened to write 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.040 a song for each of them on this album. And 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.040 I don't usually I don't do that. I don't make 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:08.959 that a habit of someone going and okay, I got 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.120 to write a song, but it's just they were very close, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.240 both very close people, and I ended up writing a 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:15.880 song for the me. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:18.760 So for this album, you're going on a tour to 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:19.240 support it. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.200 Yeah, we have a that's called I Want, I Want 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:24.000 my Eighties Tour. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.520 I didn't come up with that one, but that's what 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:26.080 it was called. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:35.480 And we have the hooters and uh, Paul Young and 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.120 uh Tommy Tutone and John Wade on some shows and 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.640 the Tubes on some shows that it's wow, it's a 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.880 great package, is really, you know it's Walter Wall hits 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.520 and and I have an amazing band and we have 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.360 an absolutely incredible time on stage. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.960 We love each other and it shows and. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.040 People pick up on that. And we're doing you know, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.480 we have new songs to do, which always inspires us. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.720 You know, I love the old I love the old 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.600 songs and of course you can't really leave the stage 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.600 without playing them, so but you know, it's good to 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.320 have new stuff to insurpire. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.280 You absolutely definitely. Did you like tour? Do you like touring? 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:15.760 Did you like touring back in the day? 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.839 Yeah, I love touring. I hate the travel always. I've 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.440 always hated the travel. I said, I get paid to travel, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.240 I don't get paid to play. And it's it's uh, 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.120 it could be a bit of a drag. I hate 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.000 being away from home now too. It didn't didn't used 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.920 to bother me when I didn't have a family, of course, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.040 but now now it gets harder as you get older 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.520 and you get more setting. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.520 You know, where you live, I love where I live. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:40.640 I have a studio here. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.440 You know, much of my life is here, so's it's 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.360 hard to become a road banded again. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:55.000 So Glee is about high school? Obviously, what were you like? 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.640 And in Head and Hands, what would you like in 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:01.200 high school? 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:02.800 I hated school. The school. 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.200 School was my prison, and I mainly because my dad 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:06.880 was in the Australia. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.600 I'm from Australia. My dad was in the Australian Army. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.640 And if any anyone's a service bread, they know it's 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.000 two years in every place. So I was continually the 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.720 new kid in school, always having always having approved myself, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:20.960 always having to get in the fight. 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.320 So always it was just and then and then. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.960 Finally making friends, knowing that in two years I'd be 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.560 leaving them. And it was brutal, but it was really hard. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.120 I dealt with it then. You know, you suck it 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.720 up when you're a kid. But I realized now that 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.120 that was a big part of who. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:44.680 I am now. I don't make friends easily. You know. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.560 I have been in this house and I haven't been 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.320 now for thirty years, and I hate the thought of moving. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:57.400 I wonder you don't like travel makes sense for the 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:58.240 travel apart. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.560 No, I mean I'm traveling since I was nine years old. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.640 We moved to England when I was nine years old, 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.320 and uh, and then went all around Europe and then 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.600 moved back to Australia. Then I went to Vietnam Vietnam 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.360 is sixty eight sixty nine, and then came to America. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.960 So I've been traveling all my life and I love 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:17.480 to travel. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.040 But but it when when you're playing, when you're doing 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.600 a show, you know, you're constantly tired. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.200 I mean it's it's. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.480 If you guys, know, if you've been on the road 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.400 and you constantly you never get enough sleep. There's always 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.880 a plane to catch is always, and it's it's not 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:31.640 fun travel. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.800 Fun travel to me is Tahiti and a wife exactly. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.000 It's definitely work travel. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.640 Yeah. Yeah, and that's that's very very different. But I 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:39.960 but I do love to travel. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.320 I think that's you know, my my upbringing help help 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:44.360 me with that. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.160 M Yeah, it's perfect training for touring life. I guess 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.960 did you when did you pick up music? Did you 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.440 start that early or was that something you found later on? 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.280 Yeah, I found that when I was in England. 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.040 We moved to England when I was nine years old, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.600 and uh, it was just before the Beatles came out, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.320 and it was a whole English scene was incredible. America 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.720 never got that part of the English scene before the Beatles, 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.560 but it was really great. It was very very unique. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.919 And a guy called the Richard who you may have 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.280 heard of, but he was like else in England and 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.640 Europe in a man called the Shadows, and I used 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:26.080 to lip sync their records with a tennis racket and 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.000 reflected in the living room window, you know. And I 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.359 get my school friends to stand behind me and pretend 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.760 to be my band, and then I started cutting. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.600 I started cutting guitars out of cardboard, not paint them 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:37.800 red like a stratocaster. 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.080 And eventually my mom got the idea and bought me 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.000 a real guitar of my thirteenth birthday. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:43.879 So I was very into music. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.000 When I moved back to Australia, I started met a 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.040 guy and we started playing together, and then it just 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.560 fell into bands and went the usual route of of 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.000 horrible performances of birthdays and then getting it getting in 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.040 a real band, and then starting to learn how to 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.960 play for an audience, and you know it was and 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:08.600 then getting in a successful band in Australia, having records 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.119 and writing and then going solo in Australia and then 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.520 getting a deal over here and coming over here. 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.280 Right, And that's also an easier way to there's one 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.960 way to make friends when you're moving every two years. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:25.480 Form a band, temporary band for the next eighteen ish months. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.240 Yeah, it doesn't have to be forever. We'll still like 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:30.520 each other at the end of it, you know. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:37.720 Yeah, exactly who are you listening to? What artists like 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.640 inspire you to make music? Right now? 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:45.840 Well, I'm a big Beatle fan obviously, but I like 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.399 I like bands a lot, you know, Like I just 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.919 got the new Queens of Stone Age album. Actually, I 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.440 love a lot of the Taylor Swiss stuff. I think 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.440 she's a great writer. I think she's an artist that 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.040 truly racist her audience. And I love that because I 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.399 do too. I you know, I understand I'm here because 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:09.040 of the audience, not the other way around. And at first, 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.120 when you first start, you know, you think it's all 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.119 about you, And when you're in up long enough, you 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.280 start to realize it's actually about them, the audience, and 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.080 and you're there because they are interested and I'm amazed 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.640 that people still have, you know, interested, and that's why 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.119 I keep doing what I'm doing. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.080 And also have a d D. So I forgot the first. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:35.680 Question, No that you answer it? Who is you know 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:48.600 that you know your songs get covered all the time? 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.520 Is there if you got to be on a show 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:56.600 like Glee where you could do a big musical performance 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.119 of a dream song that was not yours? Do you 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:00.840 have one that you would do? 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:02.160 Mm? 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.760 Hmm could episode? 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.720 Yeah, where do you start? 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.879 I mean I have I do an orchestral show as well, 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.280 and I do She's Leaving Home on it, and that's 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.960 that's an just I mean I was I was a 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.040 Paul Guy when I was a kid. Yeah, but now 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:28.240 now I'm as much a John Guy Strawberry Fields and 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.040 I am the Walrus or just you know. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.120 But but She's Leaving Home. 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.439 It's a great song to perform because it's just a 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.520 great story. It's very emotional and uh and it's an 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:46.280 incredible lyric and incredible melody. Yeah, I mean, you can't 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:46.920 really pick one. 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:51.240 I mean, you know you're really doting on the. 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:52.200 Real spot here. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:57.720 Yeah, that's a great answer, beautiful. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:03.520 Yeah, and obviously you've also you know, you've done a 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.840 bunch of TV as well in acting. Is that something 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:08.600 that still interests you now? 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:13.200 Yeah, yeah, very much. So I don't think. 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.200 I don't know if my agent at William, my acting agent, 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.439 William Morris, understands that I'm still interested in it. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.960 But yeah, no I do. 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.239 I mean, I did a movie with Meryl Streep and 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.919 that was really exciting and I learned a lot from that. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.680 And I've done some uh, you know, did a stint 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:35.960