Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and that's why we really miss podcast. An
Speaker 1: extra special special special guest today, Kevin I.
Speaker 2: I'm sweating already, so nice. Today is a Glee the
Speaker 2: Music special, Yes, because we have one of the artists
Speaker 2: of one of the songs that we covered and we never.
Speaker 1: Get to do that, who wrote this song and shared
Speaker 1: with us the inspiration or the truth behind this song
Speaker 1: and one of our favorite covers of this song by
Speaker 1: the one and only Corey Montieth. Who do we have today, Kevin?
Speaker 2: We have Rick Springfield wrote and performed Jesse's Girl. And
Speaker 2: you know, when you look at the show, you look
Speaker 2: at Glee, all of us had sort of our idea
Speaker 2: and a fire in terms of a song, right, we
Speaker 2: each had if do you think about that character and
Speaker 2: what's one song that they did that has to be
Speaker 2: their song? This was obviously Corey's slash Finn's song. He
Speaker 2: did it on tour. We had it's one of our favorites.
Speaker 1: There was a plan for this song, like from the beginning,
Speaker 1: it's why Jesse see James calls Jesse James, which we
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is like part of the
Speaker 2: bedrock of the foundation of what of some of the
Speaker 2: music for Glee.
Speaker 1: If Corey could only see us chatting with Rick, I
Speaker 1: know Springfield today? How cool?
Speaker 2: Well, you guys will love this. He is the sweetest,
Speaker 2: He is so talented and we are so so fortunate
Speaker 2: that he said yes again. Yeah. So here is our
Speaker 2: interview with Rick Springfield.
Speaker 3: Hello, how the heck are you?
Speaker 1: We're good?
Speaker 3: How are you? I'm good?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time to join
Speaker 2: us today.
Speaker 1: Very well, this is very exciting and I kind of
Speaker 1: a legend.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not every day that we we worked
Speaker 2: on a show, a musical show and sang over seven
Speaker 2: hundred numbers and very few times and we actually get
Speaker 2: to talk to the people whose songs we were covering,
Speaker 2: hopefully doing them justice. You never know, we didn't know
Speaker 2: all of them, but so it is very very special.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think you did great. I love the Beagle base amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming on. We would love to talk
Speaker 1: about Jesse's Girl. Obviously, Cory Monteeth, our late friend, you know,
Speaker 1: cover Jesse's Girl. It's one of our favorite memories of him,
Speaker 1: is him doing this number. This number is obviously you know,
Speaker 1: so so e thing fantastic. It's such a banger, it's
Speaker 1: such a they're such a great hook. It's amazing. So
Speaker 1: we're just so honored to have you. Can you tell
Speaker 1: us about if your memory serves like what who came
Speaker 1: to you with the idea of the song, What did
Speaker 1: you know about Glee? Did you know about Glee? And
Speaker 1: what made you say yes?
Speaker 3: Who came to me to suggest it for Glee? I
Speaker 3: mean just this song?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to allow us to do it?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a no brainer. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: the show was was huge and I was surprised you
Speaker 4: hadn't come sooner because it's a it's a great story.
Speaker 4: It fits you know, a lot of scenarios, and I
Speaker 4: think it was great. It's great to see it play
Speaker 4: out in a scenario, you know, play because this song
Speaker 4: is it's a story song. Yeah, yeah, so I think
Speaker 4: it was great.
Speaker 3: It was great to see. And who came to me?
Speaker 3: I don't know. My manager brought it really, you know,
Speaker 3: they do all that stuff. That's what I paid those guys.
Speaker 2: For exactly, the paperwork stuff. And yeah, we had Ryan
Speaker 2: Murphy on a couple months ago when we asked him
Speaker 2: if there's a character that came on named Jesse. If
Speaker 2: we asked him if that character was named Jesse just
Speaker 2: as a device so we could get to your song,
Speaker 2: and he said yes. So the intention was pretty early
Speaker 2: on to find some way to get to do Jesse's Girl.
Speaker 4: And well, that's very flattering.
Speaker 2: Well, I think their intention with the show early on too,
Speaker 2: where to bring these songs that gigantic right and bring
Speaker 2: him to a whole new generation, a whole new audience.
Speaker 2: And what better song to do that with than Jesse's Girl? Like,
Speaker 2: did you ever feel any sort of I don't know,
Speaker 2: feedback or like positive repercussions from that in twenty ten
Speaker 2: having the song out, I think it ended up debuting
Speaker 2: at like twenty eight on Billboard with the Glee version.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I came back. It's been.
Speaker 4: It was fortunate enough to be used for the I
Speaker 4: think what gave it a kind of a rebirth, you know,
Speaker 4: the song.
Speaker 3: You put the song.
Speaker 4: Out and and and eventually it takes on a life
Speaker 4: of its own, and you hope, and some of them don't.
Speaker 4: Some of them crash and burn and are hit and
Speaker 4: then they go away, and some stick around, and you're
Speaker 4: very lucky, very far.
Speaker 3: I was very fortunate to have that.
Speaker 4: I mean the Beatles had what two hundred of them,
Speaker 4: but I'm fortunate.
Speaker 3: That I was fortunate to have certainly that one.
Speaker 2: And you've had a lot yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but Jesse's Girl has kind of gone on
Speaker 4: and on, And it was first at first was used
Speaker 4: in a movie called what was the one about the
Speaker 4: porno industry? Oh, I can't think of it.
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on ten seconds five three two, Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I kind of brought it back and then uh,
Speaker 4: it was in there was a movie called thirty Going
Speaker 4: on thirty that was featured.
Speaker 3: You know, it was kind of built around that.
Speaker 2: Also, incredible movies like those are also huge and incredible movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, as you know, it was very fortunate to
Speaker 4: have that. And then you guys, your show was so
Speaker 4: huge and everyone was paying so much attention to what
Speaker 4: song you were going to pick, and you know, so
Speaker 4: it was just added to the power of the song
Speaker 4: really and you know, it's great. We actually used we
Speaker 4: have an opening video when we are in a live show,
Speaker 4: and we actually.
Speaker 6: Used uh, that clip for a little while, but a
Speaker 6: bunch of Jesse Jesse's Girl uh takes and we used
Speaker 6: he used his clip, but was very cool, very sad,
Speaker 6: very sad because we did it before he passed away,
Speaker 6: so it was very very sad to see afterwards.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you said Jesse's Girl is a story song. Obviously,
Speaker 1: is there a Jesse in your life? I'm just curious
Speaker 1: of the inspiration.
Speaker 2: For this song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very much so. His name was Gary, but it didn't.
Speaker 4: It didn't work in the song. It didn't sing, so
Speaker 4: I had to pick another, pick another name. Sorry for
Speaker 4: all the Gary's out there, you love it name, It
Speaker 4: didn't it didn't work in the song. And Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was actually going to it was nineteen seventy nine and
Speaker 4: I was concerned. I'd had three albums out and hadn't
Speaker 4: done anything, and I hadn't acted in a while.
Speaker 3: I was thinking maybe I should start looking elsewhere for
Speaker 3: a career.
Speaker 4: And although I never I never really gave it up,
Speaker 4: but you know, I just I was kind of worried,
Speaker 4: and I started found the stained glass class.
Speaker 3: Oh it loved I love our Heart, I love working
Speaker 3: in my hands, and this stained glass class.
Speaker 4: I started going to it to make stained glass, you know,
Speaker 4: windows and stuff, with the intention of supporting my future
Speaker 4: family with my stained glass mastery, which is pretty insane, but.
Speaker 2: You're an artists, can't stop.
Speaker 3: But there was a.
Speaker 4: Girl there and uh, and I don't I don't remember
Speaker 4: her name because she would I couldn't get closer to her,
Speaker 4: hence the song.
Speaker 3: But I know his name.
Speaker 4: Her boyfriend was in the in the class as well,
Speaker 4: and his name is Gary. And no, I tried in
Speaker 4: my own way to try and let her know that
Speaker 4: I thought she was hot, but she wanted nothing to
Speaker 4: do with me.
Speaker 3: She was she had her eyes only for a boyfriend.
Speaker 4: And I basically, you know, hadn't written in a while,
Speaker 4: and I took my sexual anks home and picked up
Speaker 4: a guitar and wrote wrote the song.
Speaker 2: Just one of the biggest songs of all time, no
Speaker 2: big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, inspired by stained glass. Yeah, pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: So you said, you know, you write a song, and
Speaker 2: there's probably some songs you write that you want to be,
Speaker 2: the ones that are gigantic, and maybe they aren't, and
Speaker 2: there's some you don't think anything of, and those are
Speaker 2: the ones that take off. This song obviously has been covered,
Speaker 2: has been used for so many things. When somebody asks
Speaker 2: to use the song, or you see different covers of it,
Speaker 2: are there any times you look back and you're just like, eh,
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't have said yes to that, or maybe
Speaker 2: this cover. You know, we look back at our show,
Speaker 2: we're like, we didn't get this number right, or like,
Speaker 2: I wonder how the artist feels about this version. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to ask you to give us a detail
Speaker 2: analysis of our version of your song, but sometimes, you know,
Speaker 2: as someone who has sold twenty five million albums, and
Speaker 2: when people cover your songs, you're like, it's so special
Speaker 2: and it's amazing that people are so into it. Sometimes
Speaker 2: maybe it's not great they use it on a big
Speaker 2: public platform.
Speaker 4: I have not disliked any of the versions. It was
Speaker 4: actually a girl did a version. I wish I can
Speaker 4: remember her name. She had a great she's gay and
Speaker 4: she uh I did it, you know, as a girl
Speaker 4: singing to a girl, and it was it was very,
Speaker 4: very very sexy.
Speaker 3: It was amazing. I'd love to think of her name.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that I can right now, but it's it's on.
Speaker 4: It's on, you know, uh, the all the sights and everything. Yeah, strange,
Speaker 4: it's very very cool and the brass the school brass
Speaker 4: band playing Justice Girl. Now was that left a little
Speaker 4: a little to be desired, But it was very cute,
Speaker 4: you know that. I know, I'm flattered at anytime anyone
Speaker 4: wants to take a shot at it. Great versions. It
Speaker 4: was a school choir. Get a very hip a cappella
Speaker 4: version of it, you know. And I've heard some interesting
Speaker 4: versions walking by bars.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I cannot even imagine.
Speaker 3: Most of the time, it's it's flattering, you know, very flattering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Speaking of evolution of Jesse's Girl, you have a
Speaker 1: new album coming out Automatic Congratulations, and just another just
Speaker 1: continuing to make music. It's it's fantastic. What how would
Speaker 1: you say that your music has evolved, your storytelling has
Speaker 1: evolved over your career.
Speaker 4: Storytelling, I'd say the emphasis has gone a little off sex,
Speaker 4: not quite as much as it used to be. I
Speaker 4: think there's a sign of age, you know. I always
Speaker 4: say my favorite three favorites, which this album is about,
Speaker 4: Automatic is about and the last one was a blues
Speaker 4: album that they had called The Snake Can. We're about
Speaker 4: my three favorite subjects, God, sex and death, and I
Speaker 4: find them the most inspirational, you know, of sorts, but
Speaker 4: I you know, it's from relationships mainly, and it can
Speaker 4: be like this new album, some of the songs the
Speaker 4: subject matter goes back ten twenty years. You know, it's
Speaker 4: just something will hit me, and you know, you never
Speaker 4: really lose the If something's meaningful.
Speaker 3: To you, you.
Speaker 4: Can go back to it, right, you know, you can
Speaker 4: go back to it and feel all the emotions, even
Speaker 4: if it happened twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: You know, it's always there.
Speaker 4: So I draw from that as well as well as
Speaker 4: you know, things like a couple of friend I lost
Speaker 4: a very dear couple of friends last year within six
Speaker 4: months of each other, and I just happened to write
Speaker 4: a song for each of them on this album. And
Speaker 4: I don't usually I don't do that. I don't make
Speaker 4: that a habit of someone going and okay, I got
Speaker 4: to write a song, but it's just they were very close,
Speaker 4: both very close people, and I ended up writing a
Speaker 4: song for the me.
Speaker 2: So for this album, you're going on a tour to
Speaker 2: support it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a that's called I Want, I Want
Speaker 4: my Eighties Tour.
Speaker 3: I didn't come up with that one, but that's what
Speaker 3: it was called.
Speaker 4: And we have the hooters and uh, Paul Young and
Speaker 4: uh Tommy Tutone and John Wade on some shows and
Speaker 4: the Tubes on some shows that it's wow, it's a
Speaker 4: great package, is really, you know it's Walter Wall hits
Speaker 4: and and I have an amazing band and we have
Speaker 4: an absolutely incredible time on stage.
Speaker 3: We love each other and it shows and.
Speaker 4: People pick up on that. And we're doing you know,
Speaker 4: we have new songs to do, which always inspires us.
Speaker 4: You know, I love the old I love the old
Speaker 4: songs and of course you can't really leave the stage
Speaker 4: without playing them, so but you know, it's good to
Speaker 4: have new stuff to insurpire.
Speaker 1: You absolutely definitely. Did you like tour? Do you like touring?
Speaker 1: Did you like touring back in the day?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love touring. I hate the travel always. I've
Speaker 4: always hated the travel. I said, I get paid to travel,
Speaker 4: I don't get paid to play. And it's it's uh,
Speaker 4: it could be a bit of a drag. I hate
Speaker 4: being away from home now too. It didn't didn't used
Speaker 4: to bother me when I didn't have a family, of course,
Speaker 4: but now now it gets harder as you get older
Speaker 4: and you get more setting.
Speaker 3: You know, where you live, I love where I live.
Speaker 3: I have a studio here.
Speaker 4: You know, much of my life is here, so's it's
Speaker 4: hard to become a road banded again.
Speaker 1: So Glee is about high school? Obviously, what were you like?
Speaker 1: And in Head and Hands, what would you like in
Speaker 1: high school?
Speaker 3: I hated school. The school.
Speaker 4: School was my prison, and I mainly because my dad
Speaker 4: was in the Australia.
Speaker 3: I'm from Australia. My dad was in the Australian Army.
Speaker 4: And if any anyone's a service bread, they know it's
Speaker 4: two years in every place. So I was continually the
Speaker 4: new kid in school, always having always having approved myself,
Speaker 4: always having to get in the fight.
Speaker 3: So always it was just and then and then.
Speaker 4: Finally making friends, knowing that in two years I'd be
Speaker 4: leaving them. And it was brutal, but it was really hard.
Speaker 4: I dealt with it then. You know, you suck it
Speaker 4: up when you're a kid. But I realized now that
Speaker 4: that was a big part of who.
Speaker 3: I am now. I don't make friends easily. You know.
Speaker 4: I have been in this house and I haven't been
Speaker 4: now for thirty years, and I hate the thought of moving.
Speaker 1: I wonder you don't like travel makes sense for the
Speaker 1: travel apart.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'm traveling since I was nine years old.
Speaker 4: We moved to England when I was nine years old,
Speaker 4: and uh, and then went all around Europe and then
Speaker 4: moved back to Australia. Then I went to Vietnam Vietnam
Speaker 4: is sixty eight sixty nine, and then came to America.
Speaker 3: So I've been traveling all my life and I love
Speaker 3: to travel.
Speaker 4: But but it when when you're playing, when you're doing
Speaker 4: a show, you know, you're constantly tired.
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's.
Speaker 4: If you guys, know, if you've been on the road
Speaker 4: and you constantly you never get enough sleep. There's always
Speaker 4: a plane to catch is always, and it's it's not
Speaker 4: fun travel.
Speaker 3: Fun travel to me is Tahiti and a wife exactly.
Speaker 2: It's definitely work travel.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and that's that's very very different. But I
Speaker 3: but I do love to travel.
Speaker 4: I think that's you know, my my upbringing help help
Speaker 4: me with that.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, it's perfect training for touring life. I guess
Speaker 2: did you when did you pick up music? Did you
Speaker 2: start that early or was that something you found later on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I found that when I was in England.
Speaker 4: We moved to England when I was nine years old,
Speaker 4: and uh, it was just before the Beatles came out,
Speaker 4: and it was a whole English scene was incredible. America
Speaker 4: never got that part of the English scene before the Beatles,
Speaker 4: but it was really great. It was very very unique.
Speaker 4: And a guy called the Richard who you may have
Speaker 4: heard of, but he was like else in England and
Speaker 4: Europe in a man called the Shadows, and I used
Speaker 4: to lip sync their records with a tennis racket and
Speaker 4: reflected in the living room window, you know. And I
Speaker 4: get my school friends to stand behind me and pretend
Speaker 4: to be my band, and then I started cutting.
Speaker 3: I started cutting guitars out of cardboard, not paint them
Speaker 3: red like a stratocaster.
Speaker 4: And eventually my mom got the idea and bought me
Speaker 4: a real guitar of my thirteenth birthday.
Speaker 3: So I was very into music.
Speaker 4: When I moved back to Australia, I started met a
Speaker 4: guy and we started playing together, and then it just
Speaker 4: fell into bands and went the usual route of of
Speaker 4: horrible performances of birthdays and then getting it getting in
Speaker 4: a real band, and then starting to learn how to
Speaker 4: play for an audience, and you know it was and
Speaker 4: then getting in a successful band in Australia, having records
Speaker 4: and writing and then going solo in Australia and then
Speaker 4: getting a deal over here and coming over here.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's also an easier way to there's one
Speaker 2: way to make friends when you're moving every two years.
Speaker 2: Form a band, temporary band for the next eighteen ish months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have to be forever. We'll still like
Speaker 3: each other at the end of it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly who are you listening to? What artists like
Speaker 1: inspire you to make music? Right now?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm a big Beatle fan obviously, but I like
Speaker 4: I like bands a lot, you know, Like I just
Speaker 4: got the new Queens of Stone Age album. Actually, I
Speaker 4: love a lot of the Taylor Swiss stuff. I think
Speaker 4: she's a great writer. I think she's an artist that
Speaker 4: truly racist her audience. And I love that because I
Speaker 4: do too. I you know, I understand I'm here because
Speaker 4: of the audience, not the other way around. And at first,
Speaker 4: when you first start, you know, you think it's all
Speaker 4: about you, And when you're in up long enough, you
Speaker 4: start to realize it's actually about them, the audience, and
Speaker 4: and you're there because they are interested and I'm amazed
Speaker 4: that people still have, you know, interested, and that's why
Speaker 4: I keep doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: And also have a d D. So I forgot the first.
Speaker 2: Question, No that you answer it? Who is you know
Speaker 2: that you know your songs get covered all the time?
Speaker 2: Is there if you got to be on a show
Speaker 2: like Glee where you could do a big musical performance
Speaker 2: of a dream song that was not yours? Do you
Speaker 2: have one that you would do?
Speaker 3: Mm?
Speaker 2: Hmm could episode?
Speaker 3: Yeah, where do you start?
Speaker 4: I mean I have I do an orchestral show as well,
Speaker 4: and I do She's Leaving Home on it, and that's
Speaker 4: that's an just I mean I was I was a
Speaker 4: Paul Guy when I was a kid. Yeah, but now
Speaker 4: now I'm as much a John Guy Strawberry Fields and
Speaker 4: I am the Walrus or just you know.
Speaker 3: But but She's Leaving Home.
Speaker 4: It's a great song to perform because it's just a
Speaker 4: great story. It's very emotional and uh and it's an
Speaker 4: incredible lyric and incredible melody. Yeah, I mean, you can't
Speaker 4: really pick one.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you're really doting on the.
Speaker 1: Real spot here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great answer, beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously you've also you know, you've done a
Speaker 1: bunch of TV as well in acting. Is that something
Speaker 1: that still interests you now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very much. So I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't know if my agent at William, my acting agent,
Speaker 4: William Morris, understands that I'm still interested in it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no I do.
Speaker 4: I mean, I did a movie with Meryl Streep and
Speaker 4: that was really exciting and I learned a lot from that.
Speaker 4: And I've done some uh, you know, did a stint
Speaker 4: on Californication and that was that was great true detective
Speaker 4: and a bunch of American horror story and some you know,
Speaker 4: there's some great writing out there, and uh. And as
Speaker 4: I get older, the one thing, the one maybe a
Speaker 4: good thing about getting older is that you have a
Speaker 4: little more life experience and you understand your craft better.
Speaker 4: And and I'm you know, I look at General Hospital
Speaker 4: now and I go, well, was I thinking that it
Speaker 4: was horrible?
Speaker 2: But but no, you should talk to my mom about it,
Speaker 2: because she's sent me a long text and I said,
Speaker 2: we were going to be talking to you because she
Speaker 2: and my sister the family group chat, were like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, he's so hot. We watched it every day.
Speaker 3: Hot hot is not good acting though.
Speaker 4: It didn't work all right, Okay, Yeah, I love acting
Speaker 4: and I plan to do more, although I just have
Speaker 4: to inform my my acting agent Mark. My music agent
Speaker 4: is Gail Hulker. She is the friggin balm. She's awesome.
Speaker 4: We love her acting agent not so much.
Speaker 1: I just got to remind them, give them a little
Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, exactly, exactly before we let you go, curious, like,
Speaker 1: You've just had so much experience in this business now,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious, what would you any advice you
Speaker 1: would give to your younger self. You know, we have
Speaker 1: a lot of young aspiring performers listening here.
Speaker 4: Don't trust everybody, don't think that they're in it for
Speaker 4: your good. But before that, I'd say the most important,
Speaker 4: three most important things, and never give up, never give up,
Speaker 4: and never give up.
Speaker 3: And that's the only thing that will help you be successful.
Speaker 4: That's really all I can say is, you know you
Speaker 4: just don't don't stop trying, don't give up. Always keep
Speaker 4: improving your craft, keep learning, and don't take people's perspective
Speaker 4: of perspective of you as the truth. Keep your keep
Speaker 4: yourself very clear of who you are and who.
Speaker 3: You know, what you know you can do.
Speaker 4: And I've always been a big believer in goals and
Speaker 4: setting goals and seeing yourself there. There's actually a song
Speaker 4: on my new album called fake It Till You Make
Speaker 4: It that is about that. It's about you know, you're there,
Speaker 4: put yourself there in your head and it will somehow
Speaker 4: the universe will find your way to it.
Speaker 3: And it's you know, it sounds simple, but it's.
Speaker 4: When you're alone in your apartment and nobody calling and
Speaker 4: you're down to your last five bucks. It can be
Speaker 4: very hard to keep that mindset. But that's when it
Speaker 4: becomes the most important. Yeah, and that's really all I'd say,
Speaker 4: you know, work on your craft and stay committed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's enough.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we're so grateful that you came and chatted
Speaker 1: with us. You're so kind and giving and honest and open,
Speaker 1: and we really appreciate it and appreciate your time, and
Speaker 1: our fans obviously love this is your song and Corey's
Speaker 1: rendition of your song. So thank you for continuing to
Speaker 1: share sharing your music with other people and allow us
Speaker 1: to cover it. Good Lives with your album and the
Speaker 1: tour and everything. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, so nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: You too, What a nice man, Jenna.
Speaker 2: I was so nervous and I asked him what covers?
Speaker 2: He didn't like, It's okay, that was what I was
Speaker 2: trying to ask.
Speaker 1: What were you trying to ask?
Speaker 2: What he answered, which is like, are there some that
Speaker 2: you really like? And then the gossip in me went
Speaker 2: to like, oh, I must be asking a negative question.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 2: What a sweet what a sweet, sweet talented man? Sweet
Speaker 2: made No.
Speaker 1: I think we were both so nervous. It's like such
Speaker 1: a big he's such a big artist coming on. Usually
Speaker 1: we have like you know, family of Glee coming on and.
Speaker 2: So friends, we can be messy and mess up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you really had to We really had
Speaker 1: to come, you know, come correct. Well, we're just so
Speaker 1: grateful that he said yes to come chat with us.
Speaker 1: And how cool Jesse's girl, Gary's girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what a legend and like what a
Speaker 2: creative mind.
Speaker 1: Definitely you can and tell he lives.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful to see people's exactly and see how people
Speaker 2: work and to see how it's really inspiring. You know,
Speaker 2: when you asked at the end of he has any
Speaker 2: advice for people, and he actually the thing about never
Speaker 2: giving up when you're down to your last five dollars
Speaker 2: and signing up for that stained glass class sort of
Speaker 2: thing is nothing is truer than that. And I think
Speaker 2: for us, we've been around, we've been through that, we've
Speaker 2: seen other people go through that, and then you see
Speaker 2: someone like him who just had to put out three albums,
Speaker 2: was gonna become a stained glass.
Speaker 1: Artists to support his family.
Speaker 2: And then has the biggest smash and then has sixteen
Speaker 2: other top twenty five million albums.
Speaker 1: Well, Rick Springfield, we're so lucky to have you. Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on and we hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
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