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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to and that's why we really miss podcast. An

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Speaker 1: extra special special special guest today, Kevin I.

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Speaker 2: I'm sweating already, so nice. Today is a Glee the

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Speaker 2: Music special, Yes, because we have one of the artists

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Speaker 1: Get to do that, who wrote this song and shared

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Speaker 1: and one of our favorite covers of this song by

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Speaker 1: the one and only Corey Montieth. Who do we have today, Kevin?

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Speaker 2: We have Rick Springfield wrote and performed Jesse's Girl. And

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Speaker 2: you know, when you look at the show, you look

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Speaker 2: what's one song that they did that has to be

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Speaker 1: There was a plan for this song, like from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: it's why Jesse see James calls Jesse James, which we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is like part of the

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Speaker 2: bedrock of the foundation of what of some of the

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Speaker 1: If Corey could only see us chatting with Rick, I

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Speaker 1: know Springfield today? How cool?

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys will love this. He is the sweetest,

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Speaker 2: He is so talented and we are so so fortunate

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Speaker 2: interview with Rick Springfield.

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Speaker 3: Hello, how the heck are you?

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Speaker 1: We're good?

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Speaker 3: How are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time to join

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Speaker 2: us today.

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Speaker 1: Very well, this is very exciting and I kind of

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not every day that we we worked

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Speaker 2: hopefully doing them justice. You never know, we didn't know

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming on. We would love to talk

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Speaker 1: about Jesse's Girl. Obviously, Cory Monteeth, our late friend, you know,

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Speaker 1: cover Jesse's Girl. It's one of our favorite memories of him,

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Speaker 1: is him doing this number. This number is obviously you know,

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Speaker 1: we're just so honored to have you. Can you tell

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Speaker 1: what made you say yes?

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Speaker 3: Who came to me to suggest it for Glee? I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to allow us to do it?

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Speaker 4: It fits you know, a lot of scenarios, and I

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Speaker 4: think it was great. It's great to see it play

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Speaker 3: It was great to see. And who came to me?

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Speaker 2: For exactly, the paperwork stuff. And yeah, we had Ryan

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Speaker 2: Well, I think their intention with the show early on too,

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Speaker 2: And what better song to do that with than Jesse's Girl? Like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I came back. It's been.

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Speaker 3: You put the song.

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Speaker 4: Out and and and eventually it takes on a life

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but Jesse's Girl has kind of gone on

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Speaker 4: in a movie called what was the one about the

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Speaker 4: porno industry? Oh, I can't think of it.

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Speaker 4: it was just added to the power of the song

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Speaker 6: Used uh, that clip for a little while, but a

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, you said Jesse's Girl is a story song. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: I was concerned. I'd had three albums out and hadn't

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Speaker 3: I was thinking maybe I should start looking elsewhere for

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Speaker 4: And although I never I never really gave it up,

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Speaker 4: And I basically, you know, hadn't written in a while,

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Speaker 2: Just one of the biggest songs of all time, no

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Speaker 1: Yeah, inspired by stained glass. Yeah, pretty incredible.

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Speaker 2: So you said, you know, you write a song, and

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Speaker 2: there's probably some songs you write that you want to be,

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Speaker 2: the ones that take off. This song obviously has been covered,

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Speaker 2: has been used for so many things. When somebody asks

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Speaker 4: I have not disliked any of the versions. It was

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Speaker 4: she uh I did it, you know, as a girl

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Speaker 1: continuing to make music. It's it's fantastic. What how would

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's also an easier way to there's one

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Speaker 4: It didn't work all right, Okay, Yeah, I love acting

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Speaker 4: the universe will find your way to it.

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Speaker 3: And it's you know, it sounds simple, but it's.

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Speaker 4: When you're alone in your apartment and nobody calling and

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Speaker 4: you're down to your last five bucks. It can be

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Speaker 4: very hard to keep that mindset. But that's when it

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Speaker 4: becomes the most important. Yeah, and that's really all I'd say,

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Speaker 4: you know, work on your craft and stay committed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's enough.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we're so grateful that you came and chatted

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Speaker 1: with us. You're so kind and giving and honest and open,

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Speaker 1: and we really appreciate it and appreciate your time, and

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Speaker 1: our fans obviously love this is your song and Corey's

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Speaker 1: rendition of your song. So thank you for continuing to

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Speaker 1: share sharing your music with other people and allow us

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Speaker 1: to cover it. Good Lives with your album and the

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Speaker 1: tour and everything. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys, so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: You too, What a nice man, Jenna.

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Speaker 2: I was so nervous and I asked him what covers?

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Speaker 2: He didn't like, It's okay, that was what I was

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Speaker 2: trying to ask.

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Speaker 1: What were you trying to ask?

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Speaker 2: What he answered, which is like, are there some that

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Speaker 2: you really like? And then the gossip in me went

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Speaker 2: to like, oh, I must be asking a negative question.

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Speaker 1: It's okay.

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Speaker 2: What a sweet what a sweet, sweet talented man? Sweet

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Speaker 2: made No.

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Speaker 1: I think we were both so nervous. It's like such

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Speaker 1: a big he's such a big artist coming on. Usually

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Speaker 1: we have like you know, family of Glee coming on and.

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Speaker 2: So friends, we can be messy and mess up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you really had to We really had

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Speaker 1: to come, you know, come correct. Well, we're just so

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Speaker 1: grateful that he said yes to come chat with us.

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Speaker 1: And how cool Jesse's girl, Gary's girl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what a legend and like what a

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Speaker 2: creative mind.

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Speaker 1: Definitely you can and tell he lives.

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Speaker 2: It's wonderful to see people's exactly and see how people

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Speaker 2: work and to see how it's really inspiring. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you asked at the end of he has any

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Speaker 2: advice for people, and he actually the thing about never

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Speaker 2: giving up when you're down to your last five dollars

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Speaker 2: and signing up for that stained glass class sort of

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Speaker 2: thing is nothing is truer than that. And I think

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Speaker 2: for us, we've been around, we've been through that, we've

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Speaker 2: seen other people go through that, and then you see

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Speaker 2: someone like him who just had to put out three albums,

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Speaker 2: was gonna become a stained glass.

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Speaker 1: Artists to support his family.

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Speaker 2: And then has the biggest smash and then has sixteen

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Speaker 2: other top twenty five million albums.

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Speaker 1: Well, Rick Springfield, we're so lucky to have you. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on and we hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

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