WEBVTT - BEING A GECKO IN NEW ZEALAND 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.200 Hey, folks, it's Lyle. 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:03.320 Before we get into the episode, I wanted to talk 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.720 to you guys about a new thing I'm doing where 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.560 you can help support my lizard endeavors by becoming a 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:14.360 premium member of this podcast over at Therapy Gecko dot 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:19.240 supercast dot com. Premium members, or gek Legends as I 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.560 call them, we'll be able to get every new and 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:25.759 existing episode of Therapy Gecko completely ad free. They'll also 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.920 get a bonus podcast episode once a month, a bonus 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.560 live show episode once a month from all of the 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.400 live shows I've been doing around the world, a member's 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.720 only live stream once a month. Plus you'll also support 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.040 my ability to continue, hopefully doing this podcast for a 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.640 long time, doing it around the world, and also supporting 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:49.519 my ability to occasionally go eat a slice of pizza. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.600 Go to Therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com or find 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.920 the link in the episode description to become a gek 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.200 Legend today. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.360 All right, let's get into the episode. Hello everybody. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:07.640 This podcast was recorded on the streets of Uckland, New Zealand. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.679 I was in New Zealand on my tour and I 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.320 took the streets to talk to people as a gecko 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.320 in real life, and this episode is two interviews from 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.360 that and then a phone call at the end. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:23.480 I really enjoyed these two interviews. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.360 I talked to a bartender living in the area, as 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.319 well as an American transplant to New Zealand. Have a listen. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.399 I really enjoyed having these conversations. Don't skip over it 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.440 just because it's not phone calls. Okay, Sometimes it's good 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.920 to go out into the universe and talk. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:40.959 To actual people. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.440 If you enjoyed this episode and you want to watch 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.959 the full thing, you can go to YouTube dot com 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.200 slash Lyle forever and find the video called being a 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.040 Gecko in New Zealand. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.240 All right, let's get into it. What's your name, bro? 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:55.520 My name is Dylan. Dylan. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:56.320 Nice to meet you, man. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:57.360 Nice to me, mister Geko. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.400 Do you live here in Uckland? 0:01:58.520 --> 0:01:59.480 I do? Yeah, yeah? 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.160 Tell me about Auckland? What what is? 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.560 What is a guy come into the city who didn't 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:04.720 know a damn thing about it? 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:05.640 What should he know? 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.760 Stay away from downtown late nights, like anywhere post three 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.000 am we're in downtown is not the place to be 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:17.240 at all. It's getting yourself into trouble pretty easy. If 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.440 you want somewhere to go late night, ponson Bee or Kingsland, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.919 there's like a way bit of area to be at. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.120 I heard about pants and Bee, Yeah I heard. I 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.359 heard it was nice. It's safer. Okay, that that makes sense. Yeah. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:31.440 Do you like living here? 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.720 I do? I do. I've lived here my whole life 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.480 and yeah, continue to do. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.080 So how do you feel like it's changed over time? 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.000 Not much really? I Mean people talk about the fact 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.560 that it's changed a lot, but I don't really feel 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.760 like it's it's changed all there much like it's growing 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.240 as a city. There's more people, but I don't really 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.160 feel like it's it's changed all that much. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.600 Do you feel isolated, like living on a tiny little 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.240 place like all the way I feel like you guys 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.080 are like just you're so far out. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.880 Yeah. No, honestly, I don't know any different. So this 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.080 has been This has been it for me. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.639 Have you got have you traveled outside of Uckland? Murmourn? 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.359 I've done. I've done Melbourne and that's it. Okay, it's 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:12.880 all I've done. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.720 Yeah, word word? What do you What do you do 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:15.240 for a living? 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:16.200 I'm a bottender? 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:16.919 Oh cool? 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:17.440 Yeah? Yeah? 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.040 Do you uh? Do people like to drink a lot here. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.160 Yeah, there's a massive drinking culture here. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:23.640 Okay have you. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:28.120 Now, have you had any like, uh, unruly patrons you've 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.480 had to deal with? Are people generally pretty chill? 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.000 Yeah? 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.480 Like there's always gonna be like people every now and 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.280 again that are that are unruly, But generally people are 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.080 pretty good, nice over here. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:39.760 What do you want to do When you were like 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:40.600 a little kid. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.560 I wanted to be a wildlife photographer? 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:43.240 Oh really? 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:43.720 Yeah? 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.400 Do you are? Are you still like into wildlife and stuff? 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.839 Yeah? Yeah, Well I'm talking to a gecko right now, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.760 so you know, we'll. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:56.040 Take a picture together and then that'll be wildlife. What 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:57.760 do you do? What's I got? 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.640 Here's one for you. What's the most persistent thought on 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:02.840 your mind lately? 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.960 Wow? Yeah, this is deep, deep questions from a get go. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.640 Hey, man, I didn't come to Auckland to waddle in 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.680 the in the in the in the in the kiddie pool. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:19.719 Yeah yeah right, yeah, yeah no, you totally didn't, God man. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.600 Right now, probably the thing that I eternalize the most 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.440 is trying to be as as good with my money 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.719 as I possibly can. So the long time, I love 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.839 not being very good with my money. So just trying 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.480 to like make informed decisions with my own money and 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.919 look after myself in that sense I supposed would be 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.760 the thing that, Yeah, it is on my mind the most. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.200 You don't have to talk about this if you don't 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.240 want to, But like what when you say you were 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:54.120 previously irresponsible with the money, like in what way, like just. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.159 Just spending it on, Like there's nights of partying, like 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.520 just a lot of drinking and not a lot of substance, 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:03.640 like being fun in the moment, but then the next day, 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:04.160 you know. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.200 But then let me ask you this, And I know 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.960 that your goal is to like be more responsible moving forward, 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:15.400 But when you look back on those crazy times that 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.120 you felt like we were responsible, do you look back 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.000 at them fondly or regretfully? 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.760 I guess it's as a mixed bag of emotions, Like 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.599 there's there's some funness to it as well. It seems 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.760 to good times. But I guess I can't look at 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.200 it back like it was a regrettable decision because I 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.360 was having fun at the time, So no, I don't 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.919 regret it. It's funness, good, good, Yeah, because I feel like, 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.160 you know, even though the money's been spending what's been 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.520 done has been done. It's like there's that, okay, but 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.680 there's the whole thing of like I've seen a lot 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:51.440 of people on TikTok talking about this, the debate between 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.440 when you're young, should you just go for it and 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.560 spend whatever you got to spend and have a good 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.400 time because you'll never be young again, or should you 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.520 be conservative so that way you know you're not totally 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.080 fucked when you get into your like thirties and forties 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.839 and ship. Yeah, it's it's it's difficult, right question to 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.479 really answer. It's like you sort of just have to 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.920 do what you feel it's right, Like what you want 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:18.120 to do. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.640 How do you have fun these days? 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.880 Play card games. We're a big fan of magic togethering. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.680 Okay, that's the magic magic that can get expensive though 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.200 they can can Yeah, that could. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:33.880 Get It's funny. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.400 It's funny because staying at home playing card keeps can 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:37.320 get more expensive. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:38.719 They're going out that actually. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.719 Again and then there's yeah, there's like snacks for everyone 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.520 that we get snacks, We get a couple of drinks 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.680 going so there's like also that, but it's cheaper than 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.960 just like going out out. You know, it's spinning it 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.240 at home with close friends, some snacks, having a couple 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:54.440 of drinks, something too crazy. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:55.640 Do you have a lot of friends? 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.719 No, No, I wouldn't say I have a lot of friends. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:06:59.839 I have a lot of people I know. 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:04.600 But you were walking with someone who seemed who seems 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:05.960 like they're your friends. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.279 She's a pretty good friend of mine. Actually, yeah, that's good. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:09.120 This is my partner. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:10.160 That's good. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.200 That's good. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.040 How'd you guys meet? 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.480 We met through work? Actually we met at the same 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.520 bar we're both working at three years ago. Now, yeah, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.400 I get there, right, Thank god. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.120 Do you do you desire to have more friends? No? 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.240 In no, particularly, I felt like my circles tightened more 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:28.520 and more as I've gotten older. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.640 It's it's good though, you get to you get to 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:35.360 really it's you invest your time because I feel, I 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.000 guess you get older and you're trying to live more life. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.440 It's like you you only have a really finite amount 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.800 of time to give to people, and so you gotta 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.640 be more you got. It's similar to how it's important 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.480 to be financially responsible. You gotta be responsible with like, 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.160 you know, you have less and less time where you're. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.400 Spending your time you know who you're missing your time with. 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.840 Yeah, absolutely, no, I agree. She's actually helping to be 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.600 a little bitter than my mind. Really, it's a great influence. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.800 That's how your Holling has been together for. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.920 Just over what we've been We were friends for a 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.120 couple of years before we actually got together and we've 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.480 been together for just over a year now, almost a 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.040 year and a half. Year and a half, just over 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:16.880 a year. That's what I said. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:17.840 Yeah, nice man. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.480 What's your what's your goal in life? What are you 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.000 What's what's next for you? I want to get out 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.280 of I want to get out of Oakland. I want 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:24.960 just some traveling. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.120 Okay, yeah you said you've been to Melbourne. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.240 Yeah, yeah, so I've only done Melbourne. We go back 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.520 to Germany, visit her family, see how she grew up. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.800 Where where in Germany? 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:41.160 Stutka a tiny, tiny town in Germany. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.200 Yeah, nice man. Yeah, that'll be the player to go 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.480 through Europe next year, saving towards Europe. Again about the 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.720 but the money thing, Yeah, it's the goal. Yeah. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:55.120 So as an American, like especially like every like younger Americans, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.160 like when we look at places like New Zealand and Australia, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:58.600 and Europe. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.160 We look at them as like, you know. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.520 These like like just so we look at them as like, oh, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.640 these places are like doing it the right way and 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.480 so much better than America, and like we I feel 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.600 like we look fondly on you know, places outside of 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.760 the States. How do you feel like, like, do you 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.880 look fondly at like, you know, Europe or America or 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.320 Australia in comparison to New Zealand. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.240 I think it's it's interesting because I don't know anything 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.680 about it. I haven't been to the country, so I 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.679 guess that, Yeah, I do look at it fondly because 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:33.960 I haven't been there. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.880 What's your uh, what's your like opinion on America? 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:39.600 If you have one. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.720 I love your politics. Really it's very entertaining. I don't 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:47.080 know that deeply, but I'd find it super super funny 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.720 just to about every now and again. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.120 Yeah, we got we got the we got the Old 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:50.920 Man Wars gone. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.080 Yeah, yeah, you certainly do. How do you feel about 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.840 that about the Old Man War, old mammals? 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.360 I mean, I think it'd be sick to have a 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.240 president who was it who was to the age of eighty? Yeah, yeah, 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.760 and you know was normally I mean, I I mean, 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.640 I like the guy we got now a lot better 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.079 than uh Trump, for sure, but it would be cool 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.920 to have just like a regular, like. 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.880 A regular human being. Yeah, yeah, Obama. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.760 I mean, I don't know shit, some people people are 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.840 gonna be like Obama did this and that. I don't know, shit, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.720 I'm dumb. But at least he like talked normally. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.960 Yeah, Like I agree with you, Like I don't know 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.880 much about the politics Americas, well, but at least I 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.800 know about my good string sentences. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.200 Yeah, that's important thing. Yeah, yeah, who's the president? Who's 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:35.160 the president of New Zealand? 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:40.120 New string sentences? Mister prison, Yeah he's watching. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.320 who's who's the president of New Zealand? 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.560 Or Prime Minister? I guess what's his name? 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.319 Because it was Jacinda and it recently changed to No, 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:56.280 it's not Luxembourg. It's no chrisph Luxburg. It's uh god. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.000 I don't follow politics strongly enough at all. I know 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.000 that he recently changed. I know that Luxembourg is part 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.160 of has changed. Like he's like it's white hand man. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.680 Do you remember Christopher Luxen. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.840 Christopher Luxeon's what what do you think? What do you 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:11.760 think is important? 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:12.520 To people here. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.320 I think keeping the country beautiful has always been a 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.040 big part of this country, keeping it green, trying to 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:28.319 keep it healthy. Sporting women's football right now super important 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:28.720 for everyone. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:29.080 Yeah. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.480 The women's before right now is hot all over the place. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:43.480 Huh. Chris Hepkins and Luxembourg like, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:43.800 thank you. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:45.880 I want to test this out on you. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:50.800 Somebody told me that everybody in Auckland knows somebody or 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.439 knows somebody who knows somebody that was a background extra 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:55.320 and Lord of the Rings. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.880 I actually do, Yeah, I know, I know, not for 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.160 Lord of the Rings though, for the for the series 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.760 that was recently made that counts. Yeah, yeah, it is 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.360 part of the load of universe, still part of Tolkien's universe. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:09.440 Was he do you know him? 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:10.400 Uh? 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.040 He worked at a bar next to an old bar, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.360 used to work out downtown and. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.360 He was he was a background character. Yeah yeah, that's 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:15.960 so funny. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.600 Yeah, I know, I've that's You're the first person I've 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.080 like asked that too. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:20.640 Yeah. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:21.680 Yeah, that's great. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.560 Huh what yeah yeah, even yeah, someone who isn't from 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.000 New Zealand, oh you know. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.000 Someone from costumes? 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.840 Man, this Lord of the Rings really this lord really 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.599 he really gets around them. Now. I asked, what do 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.439 you think is important to people of New Zealand? What's 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:42.520 important to you personally, not even politically, just we could 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.000 just make it a general question. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:52.520 Yeah, yeah, there's something real dip to these questions. Mister gecko, 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.079 is there making me weird, of making me think very 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.600 on the spot right now, in the middle of the. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.400 Street, take your time, taking time? 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:08.880 What is really important to me right now? I guess 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.000 it's trying to be as healthy as possible. The first 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.480 thing that comes to mind. Just trying to keep my 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.440 health in check as best I can physically, Yeah, yeah, physically, 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.920 meantally more physically though well with the like I know, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.360 it's hard to struggle with everyone with eating habits and 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.880 drinking habits, but trying to maintain a little bit of 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.120 balance because it can. You know, you can't slip up 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.320 with eating and drinking every now and against. I think 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:29.720 that'll be at the top. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:30.280 Dude. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.200 That's my worst. That's my like worst. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.719 That that's probably I mean, I have all kinds of 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.680 problems and stuff, but that's probably one of my most 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:39.760 big ones. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.760 Is the this is the health thing. It's it's difficult 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.920 for me to like. It's it's not an easy thing 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:45.400 for anyone. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:46.920 Are you what's your poison? 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.080 Prob Burgers. Burgers is a big poison of manner. Yeah, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.079 love me a good burger, Kidie Burgers for the rest 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.760 of my life. I was allowed. I love burgers. 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:56.520 What do you mean now? 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.040 Like? What what's I guess? I'm like, I don't even 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.480 I'm sorry, I don't even know. Like what what's a 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:05.439 normal person eat? Like what you salmon? Rice potatoes? 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.240 Okay, that seems healthy? 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:12.040 Yeah? Yeah, God, I don't know. I wouldn't call myself 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.040 a healthy person because I work at a at a 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.440 pizza bar right now. So it's pizza and pasta for 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.120 free from Wednesday to Sunday. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:18.640 You're fucked. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.960 I'm fucked. You're fucked. Yeah, yeah, you're probably fucked. Yeah 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.760 yeah yeah. So, I mean I'm not a healthy person. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.800 I wouldn't be the right person to ask about correct 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.480 eating habits because I love off free pizza and pasta. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.880 How's au Is everything okay in the head? 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.280 Yeah, it's good? I think. I mean, how am I 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:36.720 doing right now? 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:36.880 Ge? 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.760 I think you seem you seem same, You seem. 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.800 Getting away with it. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.840 Bro, me too. I'm going crazy all the time. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.800 But yeah, I mean you post it up here as 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.400 a gecko. Yeah, I mean this is the sameest thing 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:52.680 I've done in quite a lot. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:54.040 That's awesome. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.760 No, I think everyone's a little I don't trust anyone 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.040 who's not a little bit crazy. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.720 Yeah, yeah, right, that's those are the people where they 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.400 are truly crazy. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:03.520 You have to have a little bit of h t. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.360 Yeah, yeah, because I. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.360 Mean being alive, Like if you if you're truly sentient 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.680 and aware of the position that you have as just 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.960 a human being alive on earth, you gotta be a 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.120 little you gotta be a little bit crazy. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.080 You gotta be a little bit like what the fuck? 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.120 Yeah yeah, is going on or in your experience some 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:28.720 kind of deep sadness or confusion, And if you're not, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.520 it's like, what the what the hell's wrong with you? 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.840 Just stopping at stop signs and. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.880 Absolutely putting your email address in on websites and stuff. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.240 You're just what are you doing? You know what I'm saying? 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.200 No, I agree with you. I agree with you. Seeing 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.280 that little clip at Joey Diaz saying that you gotta 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:46.800 do something. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.880 Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, what's what's some people they just 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.720 don't do nothing. Yeah, they don't do nothing? 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:51.960 Are you? 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.800 Are you do you watch a lot of podcasts and. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.560 Check that a little bit, Yeah, a little bit here 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.880 and there. Yeah, very very claychhited man Joe Rogan. I 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.200 loved the Jerry I love Joe Rogan experience. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.080 Yeah, he's all, He's everywhere. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.760 It's amazing. He's an amazing guy. He has as faults 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.160 as everyone does, but he's a good dude. If you're 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.360 watching Joe Rogan, I love you. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.480 Yeah, he's watching. Joe Rogan watches every episode of the page. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.320 Hm hmm. What do you have any jobs like besides 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:20.920 bartender or was that? Are you like? 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.920 I did a few things before bartending. I was in 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.720 sales okay, the outbound contact center based sales okay, So 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.960 that was like the first roles I did was like 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.720 sales based roles and oh my god, yeah, make you late? 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.800 It was very over. Yeah. Yeah, what was that? 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.400 Oh you checked your phone and went, oh god, I 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:40.400 thought I made you late to something. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.080 No, no, no, no worries. I was checking when the card shop closer. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:44.320 I was on my way to the card sort to 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.160 five drop a drop some racks. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:53.080 Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, safely drop some racks of course, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.440 you know the money. 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.080 Oh what were you just saying? You were talking about 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:57.760 our sales sales? 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.560 Yeah yeah, yeah, so I did. Yeah, a lot of 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.960 outbound sales was like my first roles. It was all right, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.920 you know, I enjoyed it for a time, but I 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.040 was late for all the time. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.320 What were you selling people? 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:17.560 Selling people like an extension on their Sky packages, which 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.920 is like a broadcasting TV service over here. So I 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.000 was selling them like an extension on the broadcasting service 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:26.720 that was that was one of the main ones. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.639 So like, like, I guess that's your guys' version of 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:35.439 like calmcasts. They're correct, Yeah, okay, Like were you selling 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.320 people something you felt like they did not need? 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.880 Yeah? Yeah, Oh my god. That reminds me. I had 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.000 this woman. You could see the ages of everyone in 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.040 like the system, right. This woman was a good like 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.159 seventy plus, And I know in my heart that she 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.440 would not know how to use this like different adaptation 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.800 of her Sky television because it's a new remote, everything's different. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.399 She barely even knows how to use your current one. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.240 And she was like, are you sure, I'm gonna be 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.159 right to use this, and I convinced her that she 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.000 would be able to use this. This woman is like 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.359 Suny bus, and I know deep down mm hmm that 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:09.639 she didn't know how to use this. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.960 That's the tough thing about sales is like they almost 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:17.000 always are are Oh that bus has a several penises 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:17.679 carved into it. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.680 They almost always. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.520 Are are probably targeting like people who are like significantly older. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.120 They just have no fucking idea. Yeah, yeah, I mean. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.119 I finished that call and it's like, I'm a terrible person. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:29.879 That woman did not know how to do it. She 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.960 was so sweet. I convinced her for all for a 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.879 number on my sales on my like what is that 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.520 called when you reach a like sales target? For all 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.040 for reaching my sales target, all for reaching quota? 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:44.480 Yeah? 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:45.960 Was that kind of Was that the beginning of the 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:47.119 end of of doing that? 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.399 That was hands down one of my you know, worst 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.920 moments as a human. I feel like that was shocking. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:52.879 I couldn't believe I did that. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.639 Mm hmmm. Are you how do you feel about what 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:55.919 you do? 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.679 Now? Do you do you enjoy like the h the 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.080 risk that you provide to love it? Man? Yeah? 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:02.480 I love it. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.400 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.480 People have a good nutt time night out. I'm curious 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.080 about So what's like because I know there's there's no 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:12.840 tipping here. 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.480 No, well there is, like seldom there are tips, but 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.920 the tipping culture there isn't. There isn't much long because 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.879 we get paid like a decent wage as opposed to 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.520 America where it's like solely based on the tipping culture. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.000 But yeah, it's I mean, you're working the service and 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.000 she too, right, there's a lot of tipping culture over here. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:43.240 Yeah, yeah, she said. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.199 The great thing about getting a tip here is that 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.520 you can tell that they mean it because it's not 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.120 just a thing that they're like kind of expected to do, 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.919 so it is it is usually so I assume when 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.200 you get a tip, it's like because it's like an 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.640 genuine extra thing, not like, yeah, something that's expected. 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.760 Yeah. Yeah, like yeah, you've really shown up. Yeah yeah absolutely. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.080 So do you think do you do you see yourself 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.280 transitioning out of bartending anytime soon to do anything else 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:14.720 or are you happy doing that? 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:19.320 I mean eventually eventually, I'm just about to crack thirty. 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.399 I've been bartending for the past like half a decade. 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.920 It's eventually had a point I feel where my body 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.960 won't be able to do the bartending thing anymore because. 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:29.440 It's late nights. 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.680 It's late nights. It's a lot of physical exertion. Yeah, 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.320 there's a lot of picking things up and putting them 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.680 down again. So I feel like my body won't be 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.760 able to do that for so long before. Yeah, for 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.520 it'll be time for a transition and then fuck, I 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.600 have no idea what's next? 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.719 Are you? Are you? Are you happy? 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:54.640 I'm happy? That's great, I'm happy. Are you think about 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:54.920 that one? 0:20:55.040 --> 0:21:00.679 I'm grateful, But I'm not my dad might I'm pretty 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.560 I'm a very neurotic guy, So I'm pretty anxious day 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.520 to day about all sorts of things. 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.320 You're doing super well right now? 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:13.879 Thanks, Well, I'm having a good Well, Well that's you 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:14.320 know why why? 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.200 Well, that's because well, right now I'm here, I am 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:21.600 in the moments, talking to you and doing this, and 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.000 so I feel and that's the times when I feel 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.880 the most h not insane and anxious is when I'm 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.640 actually in the moments doing something. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:30.800 You know what the flow state is? 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:32.920 Yeah, I've actually seen a couple of videos about it. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:33.800 I'm sure They've talked. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.919 About it on Rogan before, like like when you're actually 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:43.040 in the uh uh, in the flow and the flow 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:44.880 when you fussing, you're present, you're there and when you're 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.960 and that's the I think that's the happiest the person 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.960 can possibly be, is when they're just present. Because when 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.280 I what the things that make me unhappy are getting 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.480 anxious about the future, anxious about oh I forgot to 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.040 do this, or maybe I should be doing this or 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.359 that or the other thing, or am I going to 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.480 die because I eat too many hamber in red bulls? 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.840 Like uh, you know, when when my brain is in 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.080 the past or in the future, anywhere but right here. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.480 But when I'm right here talking to you, I feel 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:09.880 I feel nice. 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.800 It all fades away away. 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:16.679 And I'm in Auckland. There's a guy staring at me 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.080 from that bus and waved. 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.200 But I'm here. I'm happy right in this very moment. 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.240 But uh, three hours from now, when I'm sitting in 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.560 my hotel room on my looking at Twitter, I'll probably 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:30.680 probably be sad again. 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.080 Yeah, And I mean that's okay. You know, there's a 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.600 balance to everything. Is you can't always be mister happy Geka. 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.040 Sometimes there needs to be moments wheel like, you know, yeah, 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.960 say not so happy. I just yeah, it's gonna happen. 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.840 Yeah, And I don't know. I don't know. That's why 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:48.399 the whole thing is. 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.960 I don't trust anyone who's happy one hundred percent of 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:53.240 the time. 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.159 I'm always like, what's up with this guy? Everyone? Everyone? 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.639 I'm always like, there's everyone. I always feel like everyone has. 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.000 Something nice and a lot of time in the shower. 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:04.840 Those people, Oh my god, I have to every I 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.080 have never, I have every shower. 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.960 I sit down in the shower. 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:10.159 Yes, I do. 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.920 I sit down in everyone. I sit down in everyone. 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:16.040 I've never taken a shower. I haven't taken a shower 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:17.400 this year without sitting down. 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:19.080 Is that weird? 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.080 No, that's not weird. It's really nice. Sit still, what's 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:22.520 hitting you? 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:24.760 I also haven't taken one this year without pissing in 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:25.359 it as well? 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:26.960 Nice nice? 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:27.639 Is that weird? 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.720 No, that's not weird. That's not weird at all. I've 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.360 done the occasional piss in the shower. Time I don't 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.639 pissing the shower has been she's in the shower with me. 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:40.440 Then no pissing because of my head, you know, it's 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:40.879 so weird. 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:42.639 She looked at him and said, I appreciate it. 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:47.159 She did, no set die. 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.320 Well, what's your name again? I'm Dylan, Dylan Lyle. 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.760 Very nice to meet you, Very nice to meet Is 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.480 there anything else you want to say to the people 0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:58.840 of the computer before we go? 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:03.399 If you're watching, Love You America. If you're watching you 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.720 need a new president New Zealand. If you're watching Stay 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.320 Green beautiful? Yeah, Oh, hey. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:09.800 Where should I go? 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.800 I'm going to what heat I I have? I have 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.119 to be at the airport in the evening tomorrow. But 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:16.760 I want to go on a day trip. Where should 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.600 I go? Where should I go to see some like? 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:19.280 I want to see some. 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.840 Like Lord of the Rings Ship. Where's a good place 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:23.040 for that. 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.880 It's a bit of a cruise to Hobiton. Yeah, it'd 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:27.440 be a be a bit of a tough day trip. 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.680 They have a car. If you had a car, I got, 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:30.800 I got my I got my own. 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.440 I got Oh. I just have a bunch of these 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:34.359 Gecko costumes. 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:35.959 That's all that's in my possession right now. 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.240 It's just alternating gigo costumes. Yeah, it's a bit of 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.080 a mission to get to hobbiton if you wanted something 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:43.320 Lord of the rings base, what. 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:43.880 About what he? 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:44.640 Yeah? 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:45.520 Is that place cool? 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.040 I saw that on the on the tzip of your 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.000 tongue there before you before you ask me why he 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.520 would beautiful. If it's a nice day tomorrow, okay, and 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.840 you want to go to Wahiki, it's this beautiful spot. 0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.120 It's called mud Brick and it's a vineyard over there. 0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.240 It's not far from the Theory terminal as well, so 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.880 you get off Ferry terminal. It's like a ten minute 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.640 scooter if you hire a scooter or like a tim 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:07.879 minute uber or TEXTI. I don't know what they I 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.320 don't know if they do Uber's over there. But yeah, 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.080 i'd say go do mud breaking, go to one of 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:13.320 the beach. 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.320 That's my chances of like going missing. 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.560 On White Hickey. Yeah, like slim to none do. 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:22.719 Missing. 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.359 No, No, you don't can go missing? 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:24.919 All right? 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:25.280 Well? 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.240 Yeah, if I go missing. 0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.280 Bro, you're next. If you want to have a jam, 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.840 you're next. All right, easy, easy. 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.919 I see my mom, dumb don't oh ship all right? 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:36.360 Come back? 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.200 All right there you go on to the next one. 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:39.600 Dylan. 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.800 Very nice to meet you, man, It's pleasure man. Thanks 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:43.800 coming I appreciate it. 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:44.080 Yeah. 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:44.440 Good. 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.040 What a journey, What a journey. It has been beautiful. 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.919 It's been nice. Dylan forever, laugh forever, awesome, all right, 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:57.800 take care brother, get Yeah, of course, of course the 0:25:57.840 --> 0:25:59.960 wildlife photography dream has come true. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:04.600 Wicked. Yea, it's fantastic. Thanks, thank you, man. 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.520 That was fun. I like talking to that guy. 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.679 Kiwi people are some of the most friendly in the world. Really, 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.960 that's for sure. Yeah, and you are from I'm American 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:14.120 from Boston, Massachusetts. 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:14.760 You're American for. 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:18.040 Boston, Massachusetts. And I'll say this at the beginning of 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.960 this and I cut it out, but there were several 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.439 there were a couple other Americans who wanted to have 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:29.320 a seat and talk, and I was like, what happens. 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:29.639 All the time? 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.280 Yeah, I'll go, I'll go to a four I'll travel 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.160 all the way to a foreign country to interview people, 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:37.320 and the only people that want to talk to me 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.320 are Americans. But I feel like we got a nice, healthy, 0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.159 we had some nice, healthy Kiwi conversations today. So we 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.720 can fit a yank in. What's your name, man, I'm Jake, 0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.679 Jake missed to Mate. We met earlier and talked for 0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:53.280 a little bit while I was setting up. But for 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:54.800 sure someone ask you a lot of the same. 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.120 That's fine, thanks, I repeat myself. You know, it's easier. 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.440 How's your life going, what's going on? 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:00.000 It's good. 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.000 I've lived in New Zealand about five years now and 0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:05.720 it's a cool country. It's very relaxed, it's super easy 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.960 to live in. People are friendly. You know, there's really 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:09.040 no problems in it at all. 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:10.720 You say there's no problems. 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.040 Really, I mean everywhere's problems in the world, right of course, 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.400 but comparatively, it's safe to live in. You know, it's 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.679 it's hard to be like destitute in it's really like 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.440 low ceiling. But again there's a really low floor, but 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.560 there's a high ceiling at the same time, so it's 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.880 kind of complicated in that regard. But it's super easy 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.399 to live I've been here out through all of COVID 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.199 and that was way better than the States. 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.720 Why was it better here for COVID than in the States. 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.400 It was just handled in the way less aggressive way. 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.000 I think. O think it's just the population. 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.600 I think people are just less aggressive by nature, and 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.520 I think it was just handled in a much more 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.040 like communal way versus like US versus them way, and 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.280 America has become very much US versus them in the 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:46.040 past few years. 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.800 It's just strange interesting. Yeah, do you ever go back 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:50.280 to America? 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:51.720 Yeah, I went back in November. It was the first 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.439 time I've been back in the States in like about 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.320 five years. It's good to like see family and stuff. 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.560 Went back for a wedding and things. But it changed 0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.359 a whole lot. People again didn't seem as friendly as 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.560 I remember leaving it. And I think that just comes 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.919 down to there's a lot more like political division and 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.679 social division and economic division. And I just think that 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.680 like as perforated into society a lot stronger than it 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.320 maybe it used to be, or maybe I'm just older 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:14.120 and more aware now. 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:18.040 M you know, I was talking to somebody. I don't 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.560 know if New Zealand and Australia had similar deals, but 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.199 it's from from talking to people about how the COVID 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:25.320 was in Australia. 0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.679 It seemed like it was more aggressive. 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.520 Well, I had somebody told me that when they had 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.639 they had COVID and a police officer like came to 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:40.760 their house, Yeah, and like made sure that they didn't 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:41.480 go out. 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.920 Yeah, it definitely was way more fascist in that regard, 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.120 like the lockdowns happened and kind of being forced to 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:50.120 stay inside. But even outside of that, people were less aggressive. 0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.360 Like in America when there was like mask mandates, there 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.280 was people like screaming at coffee shop workers for being like. 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.520 Yeah, yeah, well because it's funny because when he told 0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.240 me that, I was like, dude, in America, people that 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:04.200 would not people people would have gotten fucking yes exactly, 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.840 because as I'm traveling more like and like us, everyone 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:11.720 knows like America is all about like, uh exactly, yeah, yeah, 0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.959 which is why someone when I said he looked at 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.400 me and was like, well. 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.160 They're not gonna say anything here, yea. But yeah, I 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.360 just think it comes down to just how how people are. 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.120 This is a very like relaxed country. People are very chill. 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.479 It's you know, they don't really ask for a whole lot, 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.120 they don't really want a whole up, but they also 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.760 you know, are very much I don't know, I guess. 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.800 I guess America is just much more about like I 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.480 deserve so much and you should give that to me 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.920 orreas this country is more like I deserve what other 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.520 people deserve. There's a bit of tall poppy syndrome too, 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.160 like somebody else about, Yeah, if you do too much, 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.080 people really want to cut you down because they don't 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.000 want to see you excel because that means they have 0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:45.520 to work harder. 0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.120 I really think that's what it comes down. 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.400 To, the tall poppy syndrome here. 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:56.040 Yeah, somebody I was talking to somebody in Brisbane, Australia, 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.520 and they said the exact same thing. 0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:57.840 Yeah. 0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.880 I just think it comes down to, like, you know, 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.520 America as a country that like there's that mindset if 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.440 you work really hard, you get a whole lot. Yeah, 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.160 even though it's not true, and I don't think that 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.440 mindset is necessarily the same here. And that's you know 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.320 socialist healthcare as well, and you know government subsidies and 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:11.880 stuff like that. 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:13.240 Is there socialist health care here? 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:13.920 Absolutely? 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.240 If you get into any kind of accident, you're totally fine, 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.360 So talking to you right now, And a car comes 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.080 and hits my leg and breaks it, totally covered by everything. 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.280 I don't pay anything for that. 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:22.800 Really. 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.320 They even pay me to like be out of work 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:25.760 for a few weeks, like to recover. 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.480 Is that is that an Australia thing too? 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.040 I think so. I think I've tried. 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.800 I talked to some people in Australia and they said 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.440 that they still have to like pay for healthcare, and I. 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:34.680 Mean, you still have to pay when you go see 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.080 like specialists, and you have to like go to like 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.080 pay a copey at the doctor and stuff like that. 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:39.960 But like calling an ablience isn't gonna be three K 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.760 out of pocket like it is in the States, which 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:44.160 is again awesome. 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:45.240 And do you get all that. 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.200 I mean, you're I mean you've been here for five years, right, 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.480 even if you're just traveling through the country, so you're 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.400 like in a car accident, they'll help take care of you. 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.000 They might charge you more than like a local, but 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:54.680 it won't be nearly as high as America. 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.800 Fascinating. Yeah, what else do you like here more than America? 0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:00.000 I don't know. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.600 The climate's pretty cool, Like there's not as much it's 0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:04.760 not really hot, it's not really cold. It's pretty consistent. 0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.320 This country is really small, so it's easy to like 0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.920 travel domestically in, which was like beneficial during COVID because 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:12.440 kind of like the world was locked down for a 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.440 little bit. Yeah, but you know, are there is there 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.480 a train system there used to be but there's not anymore. 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:20.840 I think that just became like cars became like the 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.080 dominant sign of like the West, you know, they became 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.040 very much like the sign of individual freedom and. 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.960 Liberty, like in Fascinating. 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:29.640 Well, the people can take your house away, but it's 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.080 so hard to take your car away if you're in it. 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:33.640 Like they can come to your house and throw you 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.560 in handcuffs, but if you're moving your vehicle, how are 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.920 they gonna take it from you? And I think that's 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.640 just become like boo, yeah, and it's become like a 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.760 thing in America too, cities are designed for cars and 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.040 not pedestrians or trains or anything like that. 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.400 I know, it's such a bummer, man, it's such a bummer. 0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.280 The whole uh, the whole city is a design for 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.280 I was I was thinking about this, like every American 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:58.240 city is. There's maybe like a tiny handful of New York, Chicago, 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.080 New York, Chicago, may be Philly. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.480 Maybe Boston. But yeah, other than that, La is designed 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.200 fully for cars. Most of Texas is designed fully for cars. 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.760 I really can't think of any public infrastruction in US 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.960 that's like top tier besides maybe New York. But you 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.600 know that's two hundred years old at this point. 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.160 All right, now, any what do you like better about 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:18.520 America than New Zealand's? 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.840 Uh, the economy way stronger. It's you know, it's easier 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.000 to make money Like I would I was working as 0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.920 a bartender back in like Boston. I would pull in like, 0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.520 you know, twelve hundred bucks on like a Friday and 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.880 a Saturday night in cash. And that's like a weekly 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.600 pay here for a bartender. So it's good and bad 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.720 because there's less of that tipping culture, but there's also 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.480 more of there's just harder to make money. And housing 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.480 prices are ridiculous in rents insane? 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.080 How much do you pay for rent? So I'm one 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.720 of those How much do you pay for rent? Guys? 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:45.920 Now? 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.240 How much differ rent in New Zealand? 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.120 So I have a two bedroom that I share with 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.120 somebody and it's seven hundred and twenty dollars a week. 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.960 Seven hundred and twenty New Zealand dollars? Yeah, okay, so. 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.360 What's five forty I think American? 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:03.320 That's like New Zealand dollar is point is sixty two percent? 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.800 Yeah, of correct, So what would it be? Okay? So 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.200 it's how much was the rent of. 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.960 Weekly seven seven thirty. So I think if you do. 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.680 Thirty divided by split seven thirty total split between you. 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.160 Two between two of us, So that's how much would 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:16.600 that be for you? 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.600 That's uh so what is that? Three fifty plus twenty 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.840 so like, uh three sixty five. 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.240 Three five about right? 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.840 Times point six two. Let's do I'm gonna do some math. Yeah, 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.480 let's do the math on this. I'm very I'm very 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:32.560 curious about this kind of thing. 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.560 I think when I last looked, it was like two 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.120 thousand New Zealand dollars was like one thousand, two hundred 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:39.680 American You pay what three. 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:44.880 Sixty five yeah times fifty two divided by twelve times 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:45.760 point six two. 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.800 Yeah, but yeah, a nine hundred and eighty American dollars 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:49.120 a month. 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:49.920 That sounds about right. 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:51.800 Yeah, that sounds pretty standard to live in like a 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:52.560 big major city. 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:53.240 Yeah. 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.080 And again you know, like you know, pay us pretty well, 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.360 like minimum wages like twenty one dollars an hour. 0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:58.560 New Zealand dollars. 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.800 Yeah, okay, which that seems that's about similar to exactly. Yeah, 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.720 and you know, just the higher standard of living too. 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.040 Food is pretty expensive, Like I'll spend three hundred bucks 0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.480 a week on groceries for two people, because like food's 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:08.960 just mental. 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.919 Yeah yeah, so where and do you feel like it's 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.440 the cost of living in total and everything is better 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:16.000 in Boston? 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:17.800 Oh heck, yeah, this is one of the most expensive 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:18.920 cities I've ever lived in. 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:19.320 Interesting. 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.640 Yeah, I would say the only more more expensive city 0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:22.280 was Vancouver. 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.080 Like Coop's nice. 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.840 Yeah, oh wicked, nice, but expensive to live unless you 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.360 make decent, decent money. 0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.400 All right, So tell me about you personally. So you 0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.120 moved here five years ago. Did you come here alone? No? 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.279 I followed a girl here that I barely knew. I 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.120 met her and uh, she was moving to New Zealand. 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.040 She was English girl. We met outside of Boston and 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:41.960 she was moving to New Zealand in about four months. 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:43.319 And she asked me if I wanted to come, and 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:44.600 I said, fuck, yeah, why not? 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.160 Did you have like you met her outside of like 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:48.839 what at a bar? 0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:49.319 Yeah? 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:49.680 Yeah? 0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.760 So she was working at like an office like full time, 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:54.919 and her mom encouraged her to like go meet people, 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:56.480 So go work in a bar like one night a week, 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:57.880 and I was working there and we hit it off 0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:58.399 really well. 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.399 And yeah, just followed her here, And. 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.160 How long do you know her before you followed her there? 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.080 Like five months, so you need to have her like 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.440 eight months total before we moved here. And how old 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.719 are you, uh, twenty two, twenty three? 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.120 Did you have really anything? 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.920 I mean, it's funny because that sounds like a rash decision, 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.600 but in like, did you have any fucking thing else 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:17.960 going on? 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:18.120 Then? 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.480 Like's what's the worst that could happen? Yeah, I came 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.160 for a work holiday for one year. If that sucked, whatever, 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.400 I'll go back to America. I really liked it. Halfway 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.040 through that second year, COVID kind was popping off. Seemed, 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:30.960 you know, kind of ideal to stay here, so I 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.399 did and then been here, you know, five years now. 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.080 Well, it's interesting with decisions like that of like, you know, 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:37.560 cause I've talked I've talked to a lot of people 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.520 on my podcast who are like, you know, me and 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.279 my like who want to make some kind of like 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:48.080 big life decision in the name of like a relationship, 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.520 and it's like normal normally I think that's a very 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.200 bad idea. But in your case, where it's like where 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.840 you know, where you're like, Okay, if I follow this 0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.600 girl to New Zealand and she except with me on 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.480 the spot. It's like I still went to a foreign 0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.279 country and got out of my comfort zone and did 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.040 things that are of my own personal growth and development. 0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.680 Yeah exactly, And I think because I'm young, that's more beneficial. 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.400 Like you didn't like leave behind a like a career 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:15.920 that you were investing in or anything like that. 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.239 Yeah, I'll give you a bad story. 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:21.040 So one of my friends, his aunt moved to Singapore 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:22.880 to be with her husband with their two kids, like 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.439 sold their house in America, like, moved to Singapore, got 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.600 onto the airport, and the husband was like, yeah, I'm divorcing. 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.640 This is my new wife and child thanks to the 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.840 house and putting the money in my account, like enjoy 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.600 Singapore and then just left her. And so like when 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:36.400 you have kids, or if you're older, like yeah, there 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.160 might be more of that kind of thought between, like 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.319 there's a lot more to think about, right, But when 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.439 you're you know, mid twenties, Like, again, what's the worst 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.480 that could happen? I lose a kidney in a foreign country. 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.799 Well, I guess I didn't bring up but yeah, there 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:51.240 is the chance of you know them, you know stealing 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:52.040 your kidney and shit. 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:53.880 Yeahah, but you get that experience when you're going a 0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.800 tender day in like la or something too, you know 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.520 what I mean. So I guess as long as you 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.640 kind of look at like failure is not really like 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.200 as an option as something that you learn from. I 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.040 really don't think you can have bad experiences like that 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.040 just with the relationships. 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.239 I agree with that. Did you how how long were 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:10.799 you with this girl? 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.480 Like three and or half years? Almost four? Okay? 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.000 Okay, oh yeah, so you the relationship ran aside? If 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.120 she didn't break up with you on the spot? 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.240 No, no, no, so like people just grow apart. 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.160 Yeah, like you know, it wasn't like anything, like we 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.160 just became like different people after a while, which is 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.600 you know, that just happens. And I think every relationship 0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.319 serves a purpose even if it like ends, and you know, yeah, 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.080 I do miss her and we occasionally talk, but like 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.400 it's better for us to not be in a relationship. 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:33.480 For both of us. 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.359 Where what do you do now for work? 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.960 So until about two months ago, I was running a 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.920 member's only bar uptown and now I do data management 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.800 for a construction company. 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:44.120 Are you happy? 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.320 I mean not really, is anyone really happy? 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.880 Okay, Well I was talking to last guy, yeah, and 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.080 he said, yes, is anyone really happy? 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.240 That's a good question, does anyone really happy? 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:55.320 I think you can be content. 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.400 I think you can be content with the life you 0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.160 have with you know, having roof of your head and 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.440 having food and stuff like that. But I think happiness 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.560 comes from like a lot deeper of a level than 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.080 having that filled. I think that comes from like fulfillment 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:09.520 in your personal life, like outside of feeling like Maslow's 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.600 hierarchy of needs like safety. 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:12.440 And security and stuff like that. 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.920 I think you get into a much different perspective on 0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.520 what like happiness actually is once again, once you filled 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.200 that base tire. And I think that's kind of like 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.000 where I'm at now, trying to like learn from my 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.359 failures and learn like as a human being of like 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:25.919 what I can do better and what I've done wrong? 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:29.360 And so do you have an idea of what would 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.200 make you happy? What would get you to that point? 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.480 I mean, to be honest with you, I think that 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:38.240 really comes to like to really knowing if you've caused 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.480 more suffering than you've alleviated. I think that would be 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.719 or the other way around, You've alleviated more suffering in 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.920 the world than caused. I think that is ultimately what 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.040 brings about the true form of happiness. But I think 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.520 that is really hard for you to ever decipher on 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.680 your own, and that's why people find, you know, religion 0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:56.680 or veganism or whatever you want to do. So I 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.200 think that's kind of how my perspective on that is. 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.800 Are you actively unhappy? 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:04.840 I mean, I don't want to kill myself, but I 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:06.920 also like, you know what I mean, but like what, 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.759 like what is happiness? Happiness is like, you know, never 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.400 being sad, but I feel like never having rainy days 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.440 means sunshine isn't necessarily as nice. 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:15.080 I don't know. 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.080 Sometimes and I was just I was just unloading on 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:21.360 the other guy about this. Sometimes I'm like, like I 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.520 have a I have a general anxiety and like I 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.600 don't want to like general like there's a there's a something, 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:35.160 there's and there's there's a some Oh man, i'm doing 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:35.880 green stuff. 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.320 I look like we. 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.160 I'm happy now I'm feeling good and that's well, all right, 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:47.000 it's gone. There's a general I don't know what it is, 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.840 like direness, yeah, like it's not and it's not and 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:52.920 it's again, it's not like I want to kill myself thing, but. 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.560 It's like there's a weird direness. 0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.680 I think that's because we're stuck in this rat wheel, 0:39:57.800 --> 0:39:59.439 like you know what I mean, Like there's just there's 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.319 no realists. There's so much slave wageness and stuff like that, 0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.360 like if if you want to be self sustainable, you 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.200 need to be a farmer and work incredibly hard. 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.120 Yeah, so hello. 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.600 But it's weird because even though I'm like, I'm very 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.799 grateful and lucky enough to get to like to be 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.799 a fucking stupid gecko for a living like I still 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.880 have every day, there's like a weird direness which I 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.719 don't I whish. I feel like I might not, like 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:25.239 like if I were like a nor like if I 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:30.680 were like a dude working in like an office and 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.399 like had like a wife, and like if I lived 0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:37.080 like a very traditional life. Part of me feels like 0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.600 I wouldn't feel as diary because you know, you meet 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.960 these guys, you meet folks who are you who you 0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:48.480 kind of feel like are like like they eat healthy 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.000 and wake up early and go to their job and 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.759 have their family, like who seem like they have like 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:58.279 a normal life that's making them happy, and then there's 0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.719 probably a lot of people who live lives like that 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:00.640 that are not happy. 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.520 Well, I would say that why is the divorce rate 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.719 so high and you know, suicide rate for like men 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.640 in their thirties and forties or so high. If that's 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.440 kind of the case, I think a lot of that 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.600 is just filling the void. It's the same thing for 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:12.560 like going to the gym a lot, if that's your 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.319 chronic thing, or drugs or alcohol, Like everybody just kind 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:16.960 of fills that void inside of them. And some people 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.600 feel it with like work and family, and I think 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.600 that's healthier than like, you know, fucking shooting a heroine 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.000 every day. But on the inverse, though, there's still that 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.239 void that people are filling. And I think that's kind 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.080 of like what you know, Buddhist teachings kind of like 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.960 prophesizes and philosophies as kind of that whole like internal 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:33.520 monologue on what is and what is not? 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.799 Is it anything? I'd like to believe ideally. 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:44.160 That that whatever happiness is, it's something I uh, like, 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.640 you know, you're talking about the massle higher hies. I'm like, 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.320 I'd like to believe that my happiness could be achieved 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:54.520 totally of my sell, like I don't need anything, Like 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.960 it's just like I could be naked on the beach 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:01.239 with no family or friends yep, no, no, nothing and 0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:02.960 just be like I don't know, like the But but 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:03.920 that's probably not true. 0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:05.560 I mean, I think about. 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.840 Human beings are all connected into like one sense in 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.600 some regard. So I think that not saying it's selfish, 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.040 but that kind of like independent happiness I don't really 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.680 think extends past like the individual, because you don't live 0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.120 as like a hermit in the woods. 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.239 You live in society. 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.440 And so if you're doing really well and everybody you 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.560 walk by is you know, starving and dying, then are 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:26.040 you really going to be like, well, my day is great, like. 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:26.920 I guess well. 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:28.520 The reason I like well, the reason I'd like to 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:33.120 feel that way is because I'm very big on what 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.200 you can and cannot control, agreed, And I can only 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.799 I can't control things, and I can't control I can't 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.759 control things outside of myself, And so if I leave 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.360 my happiness up to things I cannot control, I'm fucked. 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.319 Yeah, but I think you leave a lot of things 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.359 up to like what you can't control. And I think 0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:51.400 some of it is just accepting that and not like 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.400 accepting things that you can't control and like learning to 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.000 deal with them, making the best out of a bad 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:56.680 situation or making the most out of a good one. 0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.040 I think if you, if you always live in like 0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.160 your own personal seat of happiness, when you have these 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.960 like really good experiences and good days, you won't view 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.200 them for what they are. You'll view them as just 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:10.640 like another good day. There's an interesting like quote from 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.920 a book that's, like the problem with dark days is 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.719 you think you're always in the darkness one of the 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.520 good days, it's hard to see the light. And I 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.440 think that's kind of how people view when they're too 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.080 content with life or too safe. And that's one of 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.319 the problems in like Western society to an extent, is 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.400 people's maslows hierarchies are so filled that they're looking for 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:27.839 external happiness in the wrong ways. They're looking to fill 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.279 the void with ramp and drugs and alcohol or sex. 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:31.920 I mean, hey, I've done that shit, so I kind 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.319 of like, you know, I'm speaking from experience, yeah, man, 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:36.440 But like you know, it's the same thing for the 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.400 jobs some people get lucky and they find like a 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.400 career path that like really sticks for them, and some 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.279 people like retire without really knowing what they wanted to do. 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:44.040 Yeah. 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:45.840 So, and it's the same thing with life. People on 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.200 their death better are like, oh, I wish I'd done 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:48.440 this differently, or I wish I would have done this. 0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.239 But also people while they're living live with regrets and 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.960 also have to live with them and move past them. 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:53.759 Here's my thing. 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.920 All I care about is that I try it. Trying 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.960 is like trying is within my control, you know, because 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:03.839 like all right, because you're talking about like if like 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:05.680 you're all happy, but ever people aren't around you are 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.239 people around you aren't happy. But it's like if you 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:10.080 if you then think to yourself, I'm like, okay, well, 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:14.000 what's within my control to try. You're never gonna be 0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.520 able to make another person happy or make another person 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.440 feel any way, shape or form or anything. 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.520 But you can try. 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:25.040 Yeah, And if yet tried, then that was you fulfilling 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:26.400 the thing that was within your control. 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.279 I completely agree, And I think that's one of the 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.480 biggest things in life, is just like to try to 0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.239 try everything. I've had thirty eight different jobs, I like 0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.520 to travel, like to meet people. And I wouldn't say 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.239 anything I've ever had as a failure, even though I've 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.759 been fired like twenty two times. But you know, like 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.240 I don't. I don't think life is about not trying. 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:44.640 I think it's about trying everything. 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:46.200 What's next for you? 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:46.560 Man? 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:50.279 So you're working in the corporate thingy right now? Yeah, 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.000 what's next? What's next on your journey? 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.400 So ideally I'd like to find somebody who'll give me 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.719 funding for a startup farm idea for self contained hydroponic 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.560 farms inside of shipping containers and repurpose office buildings. 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.200 I hope that somebody who knows what the fuck that 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:04.600 is gives you money for it. 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:06.279 No, I just think that, like one of the things 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.240 that I could probably achieve in my lifetime is helping 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.279 with like food scarcity and stuff like that. I feel 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.440 like that's pretty attainable because you know, food is so 0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.920 mismanaged in this world. There's so much waste and stuff 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.040 like that. I find it strange that poverty is the 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:18.920 leading cause of obesity and starvation. 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.160 Poverty is the leading cars of obesity and starvasion. 0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:24.520 Yeah, isn't that strange? 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:25.240 Yeah? 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.680 You know, I will I think is it I feel 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.960 it's I feel like it is cheaper to eat shitty 0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:32.800 than to eat healthy. 0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:33.760 Okay, yeah, perfect. 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.520 So in New Zealand, KFC, like family bucket with like 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:38.160 this two sides and the drink and stuff is like 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.480 fifty four dollars. If you were to make like spaghetti 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.120 and meatballs for your family of five, that would be 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:44.680 like seventy five bucks. If you put like veggies in 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.719 it and had meat and like you know, pasta and 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:48.359 red sauce and stuff like that be seventy five. 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:48.920 I actually know what. 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.080 No, I'm actually thinking about this more. It might because 0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.160 listen as a guy yeap who eats a lot of 0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.879 fucking fast food yep, and like I'm always eating out 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:03.839 and shit, I've actually I feel like it's I don't 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.120 know you'd have this is a I don't know why 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:06.600 I'm even in speculating about this thing, because it's an 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:07.680 objective thing with numbers. 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.640 But whatever, I hope you. I also I hope you 0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:13.200 cure world hunger. 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:14.360 I don't want to care, and I just want to 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.759 alleviate some pressure. I'll pop one pimple, but I don't 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.200 want to cure all the acne. What's your name again, 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:20.960 I'm Jake, Jake. Very nice to meet you. 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:22.920 Ask me anything else you want to say to the 0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.440 people of the computer before we go. 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:28.000 Yeah, live with the appropriate amount of fear. There is 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.360 a level that's too much and there's not enough. So 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:31.879 live with the appropriate amount of fear. 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.600 N Nice to meet Jake. Nice to meet you, Jake. 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:36.839 Thanks for sitting down and chat with men. 0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.760 I appreciate enjoy the rest of your time traveling. 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.080 Of course, man, you take care. We did it. 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.640 We're trying. Gave me some stuff to think about. I've 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.799 been I've been these today. The theme of today was 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.839 other people giving me gecko therapy. That was the theme 0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:52.320 of today. 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:53.640 Holy shit. 0:46:54.080 --> 0:47:00.320 Maybe gecko therapy is not when a gecko gives you therapy, 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:05.600 but it's therapy that is achieved by dressing up as 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.880 a gecko and then talking to people. 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:14.760 Yeah, I have a see man, My mind is blown 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.160 by that. Hey, folks, it's Lyle again. 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:21.239 I hope you enjoyed being out in the great universe 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.680 of Uckland, New Zealand. If you enjoyed it and you 0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:29.800 want to see more IRL interviews or listen to even 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.320 more interviews that I did on the streets of New Zealand. 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.520 You can find the link to the full video in 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:40.960 this episode description. And with that, let's go talk to 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:49.800 a caller named Raydon about living more for himself. 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:50.880 Hello. 0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:55.640 Hello, Hi, it Lyle. Oh my god, it's the Lizard. 0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:57.800 Yeah, who is this? 0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:58.560 This is Raiden? 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.960 Raiden? What's up rating? What's going on with you. 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.879 In bed right now? I'm kind of cleaning my. 0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:06.040 Room sort of. 0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.480 I sort of meant in more of a general sense 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.399 in terms of, you know what it is you wanted 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.680 to talk about on the phone. 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:19.920 Oh okay, Yeah. So in like the past podcast you posted, 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:26.080 there was someone who talked about leaving the life behind 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.040 and kind of like running away to different like state 0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:34.319 mm hm. And I've also been seeing your videos where 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.520 you go to different countries. It's on a whim and 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:39.680 it's been very inspiring. 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.920 Good good tell me tell me more so. 0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.080 So, I'm I'm a very like unconfrontational person. 0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:52.960 I don't have very good boundaries, and I I've had 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:57.120 like a lot of the same friends for like my 0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:01.560 my like entire high school experience, and I've never set 0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:09.120 like great boundaries with them, So I find myself like 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:13.520 excusing their behavior and taking responsibility for them, like kind 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:14.520 of taking care of blat. 0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.600 Of people in my life. And I'm kind of at 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.000 a cross from that crossroads, I guess, but like on 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.160 and off, I'll just wonder if I could just like 0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:23.360 dip out entirely. 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:31.320 Okay, let's get into this. Uh, give me an example. 0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:33.560 You said that you're you've been taking care of your 0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:35.040 friends and not setting boundaries. 0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:36.840 That can I hear an example of something? 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:38.359 Yeah? 0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.680 So you know, I have very like interconnected friend groups, 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.400 and people don't get along a lot, and I find 0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:53.080 myself constantly like mediating for people, Okay, And I'm constantly 0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.480 trying to be like the voice of reason, and and 0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:00.799 I'm I'm like neglecting my my own because you know, 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.719 I can, I have like logic out situations for people, 0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:05.680 and then I don't get to feel it myself. 0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:11.200 All right, what give me? Give me a specific example 0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:11.800 if you can. 0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:27.360 Mediate, I mean frequently, there's like one instance where okakay, 0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:33.080 so I try to combine to friend groups, which it 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.960 never goes well, it's never do it if you can, 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:46.320 And I introduce my friend's boyfriend to like my longtime friends, okay, 0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:48.759 and we we preface the situation because he's just like 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:55.719 he's kind of goofy, and my friend doesn't take well 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:58.640 to like people pushing boundaries. 0:50:58.680 --> 0:50:58.840 You know. 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.719 Okah was respectable, but we preface the situation with that 0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.719 he might do something weird, and so he pressed his 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.279 We were getting gas and I was sitting in the 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:10.239 back seat of the car and she was sitting in 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.760 the passenger seat. And he got out with my friend 0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.239 filling his gas tank and he pressed his ass, his 0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:21.880 bare ass against the window. I'm against my window, okay, 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:26.719 And I had to I had to, Like I didn't 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:29.319 necessarily defend him, but I had to like explain to 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:34.200 her like like that was just like that's how he is, 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:37.280 you know, And I, like I had to immediate the situation. 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.799 Okay, So. 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.680 You're bringing up Can I be honest with you, This 0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:54.399 is funny, but you're bringing up like two separate You're 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:59.080 bringing up like all these different variables that, in my eyes, 0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:00.480 have nothing to do with each other. 0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:04.000 Here's here's the thing. You You are in no wayship. 0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:09.840 You're not responsible for mediating you like you've given yourself 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:13.560 this weird management job of your friends. 0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:19.520 Yeah, exactly, you feel very responsible. Why what the fuck you. 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:25.000 It says you're nineteen. I don't. 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:25.479 I don't. 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:30.080 I don't know, because I think it stems from I 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.680 feel like this, this is going to come off wrong, 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:40.040 but I feel like emotionally intelligent, okay, and I I 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:44.040 kind of just when I see I see things not working, 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:45.480 and I'm like, Okay, I get help. 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.799 Okay, do you actually think you can help? 0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:54.440 I feel like I do. And that's the thing that's 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.720 the problem, because then people come to rely on. 0:52:58.600 --> 0:52:58.680 Me. 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:01.600 Okay. 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.560 I feel like people have like like historically have like 0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.000 taken advantage of my historically, but like in my path 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.520 have taken advantage of that. And I'm kind of just 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:13.000 at a point where it's like, I think it'd be 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:17.400 silly if I just like left everything. 0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:24.160 Okay, I mean this, There's there's so much going on 0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:35.280 here that I'm trying to think about trying to connect 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:40.479 friend groups. You're trying to be the voice of reason. 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:41.399 I guess. I guess. 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.040 What I can't get over is why do you feel 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:46.000 this like compulsion to do this? 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:52.560 I don't know. 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:59.160 I have this like dire need to feel like wanted, 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:00.759 I guess, and I like I feel like I need 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:06.680 to make a place like sil Roll because that maybe 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.560 I feel like there's not enough of me here to 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.000 like be wanted, so I feel like I have to 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:13.000 like take care of people. 0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:20.319 Yeah, okay, I'm like an eldest child, so I'm like. 0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:22.080 That makes sense. 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:25.319 You have this desire, you have this desire to be 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:28.080 the mom of the group because it gives you some 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:28.840 role to me. 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:36.319 Okay, all right, that's fair. I have that. Well, here's 0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:37.839 the thing the. 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:48.720 Groups has the group asked for you to be the mom? No, okay, 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.319 then don't do it. I don't like tell people what 0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:52.880 to do, but I'm gonna tell you what to do. 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:54.799 Don't do it. Stop stop what you're doing. 0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:55.719 I I don't. 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:59.200 I don't like this because you're not responsible for any 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:03.200 of this, and you're certainly not responsible for it if 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:08.160 it's at your own. You're doing a thing that nobody 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.880 asked you to do, that you don't even like doing. 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:15.879 Why are you doing it? What is this? 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:21.000 What have you mentally trapped yourself in for no reason? 0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:25.040 Abandoned you? Know? 0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:26.520 That's that's very true. 0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:30.799 And I think go have friends, hang out with hang 0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:34.520 out with butt in window guy. And if butt and 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:38.960 window guy gets himself into trouble for putting his button 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:43.879 is the window. He can handle that. He doesn't need 0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:46.680 you to translate. He doesn't, Your friend doesn't. Your friends 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:50.560 don't need you to translate them for you for them. 0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.760 Your friends don't need you translating them. They can just exist. 0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:58.280 And if somebody and if your friends has a problem 0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.279 with butt and the window friends, she can deal with 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:02.120 it and he can deal with her having a problem 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:05.920 with it. You don't have to do any of this, Okay, 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.360 I don't have to do it. Nobody asks you to 0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.080 do this, and you don't have to do this. You 0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:11.879 want to fulfill that, you want to if you want 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:16.080 to have a role to fulfill, give yourself a better one. 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.799 Lots of roles that can be fulilled. Give yourself a 0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.960 better one than this thing. 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.719 It's kind of like when like, you know, everyone's like 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:28.520 around each other and I feel like I need to 0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:32.080 like also bring the mood up to I'd like be 0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:34.040 like a gesture of sorts. 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:35.200 Nah fuck that. 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:38.239 Nah. Listen, here's the thing. If you're hanging out with 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:42.239 a bunch of people and things are awkward, I mean, 0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:45.000 go ahead and improve the vibe for you. 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:46.839 If you're like. 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.759 Talking to someone or in a group of people and 0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:51.400 the vibe is off, and you want to improve it 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.560 just for the sake of whatever, and go do that, 0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:59.040 but don't do it out of some Oh it's my 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:01.160 responsibility to make sure that. 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.120 Everything vibes. You're gonna kill yourself doing that. 0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:09.160 You know that makes that makes sense? 0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:10.600 All right? 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.200 So you want to go off to random places and 0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:16.680 have silly little adventures. 0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:20.920 So I am. I'm I'm in like my like local 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.920 music scene a little bit, and I have like, eventually 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:26.600 I'm gonna have opportunities to like I kind of want 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:28.800 to try and like tour with the bands, like follow 0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:32.920 them and the idea of like not not telling anyone 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.480 and just like going up to like the East Coast 0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:37.959 for like two weeks at a time and just going 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.640 am I A And you know, I like living more 0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:42.280 genuinely If that makes sense. 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:46.560 Yes, that does make sense. 0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:52.040 Uh. I like that. You should totally do it. Please, 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:57.120 please do it. I really want you to, because you're not. 0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.920 You're dying slowly and you're only even college. What's your 0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:01.640 deal with that? 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:02.440 What do you do? 0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:03.040 What do you do? 0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:08.800 I I just finished my first semester like a couple 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:13.040 weeks ago, and I'm not going next semester because I 0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:17.360 was like, this is awful because I work for I 0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:19.400 work too, and I'm paying for my own college. So 0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.760 I'm like, if I'm not paying full attention, I'm wasting 0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.120 double the time because I'm working for the money to 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:25.920 pay for college. 0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:26.400 And then. 0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:29.800 What do you what were you in college for? 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:36.480 So I wanted to do a computer science so I 0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.959 could eventually get into like game development, and then my 0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:42.720 my advisors didn't know how to place me, and that 0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:44.960 got really frustrating. And then I was like, this is 0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:46.400 this really what I want to do? Or is this 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.720 me like trying to cope with like getting a nine 0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:51.480 to five and trying to find the funnest nine to 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:53.800 five I can get, like it is truly what I 0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:56.320 want to do. And I thought about it and. 0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:00.720 Not, really, God, you want you want to get into 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:01.360 game design? 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.160 That was kind of me huffing copium though I didn't 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.080 like it was like the funnest nine to five I 0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:12.000 could think of, but it wasn't. It's not what I want. 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:12.680 To do, you know what I mean? 0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:15.120 Okay, so what do you want to do? Let's start there. 0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:19.680 I mean, like, I love, like I want to work 0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:22.880 somewhere in music. But I also just love like, like, 0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:24.720 I want to be like a bartender. I just want 0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:25.440 to be like storied. 0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:30.720 You want to be storied? What is it what I. 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:33.680 Want to I like? I want to be like I 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:37.400 want to live through a lot, like not in a 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:40.120 bad way, but I want to see a lot. Okay, 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:41.680 and I want to talk to a lot of people. 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:42.720 I like talking to people. 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.440 Okay, all right, okay, all right, we got something here, 0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:47.520 we got something. Well, there's a lot of things you 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.800 can do to do that. There's a lot of things 0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:52.200 you can do to do that. You can go on 0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:56.800 you can go on workaway dot com. You can find 0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:58.640 people who are willing to give them serious you go 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:01.040 find people who can or then to give you a 1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:04.800 bed in exchange for teaching their children math. 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:08.720 You don't even have to know math. You can just 1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:12.360 pretend like you do their children. 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:14.320 I could teach kids the wrong way to do it. 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:17.000 You could, and again they won't know, and their parents 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:20.880 they won't know because their children. So you can teach 1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:24.080 children math wrong. That's an option for you. 1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:26.640 I am. 1:00:29.360 --> 1:00:32.640 That's a great idea that I will listen. I I 1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:37.640 like your general direction because you're only nineteen. That's what 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:38.920 I want to do too. We want to do the 1:00:38.960 --> 1:00:41.800 same thing. I'm I'm I'm also worried. 1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:46.280 How I'm going to keep making money doing that? That's 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:46.800 what I want to do. 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:51.120 Yeah, because it's like, you know, am I like trying 1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:52.720 to find ways to fund my life? 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:53.240 Is that? 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:59.720 Is that inherently like me trying to create some dis 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:04.760 genuous like purpose or I'm like distracting myself from what 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:06.120 I'm I want to actually do? 1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:08.880 Hold on, what do you want to actually do? You 1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:10.520 just told me what you want to ask you? Well, 1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:11.640 how is this a distraction? 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:11.920 No? 1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:14.040 No, no, like like like like the like the game 1:01:14.080 --> 1:01:14.640 design thing. 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:17.720 Oh do you care about games? 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:22.760 I like games, but it's not like what I want 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:23.520 to do with my life. 1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:24.000 That was the. 1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:29.000 Way I stop. Stop stop stop going to college? 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:30.280 What am I doing? 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:33.520 What? Don't tell people to stop going I mean, now 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:35.640 you know what, you know what? Stop going to college. 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:37.400 I'm gonna tell you what to do. I have my 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:37.840 whole show. 1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:39.600 I don't pop what to do. 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:42.360 Okay, good, don't go. I'm going to tell people what 1:01:42.400 --> 1:01:44.360 I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna start telling people what 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:44.600 to do. 1:01:45.120 --> 1:01:47.440 This is a new guy. This is twenty twenty. Twenty 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:50.600 twenty three is the year that therapy get go. Just 1:01:50.720 --> 1:01:51.080 lose this. 1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:56.360 I will lose all of my restraint. I've practiced the 1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:59.600 restraint and not telling people what to do and now 1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:01.960 law and I'm getting rid of it and I'm telling 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:05.680 everyone what to do. Now I'm telling you what to do. 1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:06.360 Don't He's great. 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:09.520 Don't spend a bunch of money because here's what the 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:13.320 thing you're working, you're saving money. 1:02:13.520 --> 1:02:14.400 It's a great thing to do. 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:17.680 Keep doing that because you can spend the money that 1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:19.240 you were gonna spend. 1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:24.680 I mean, you should get some skills and yeah, I. 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:27.120 Like, I like just like knowing a lot of stuff. 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:28.560 Like I want to I want to be able to 1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:31.160 like make drinks and I want to build, like cook, 1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:32.800 but I also want to be able to play music 1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:35.200 and I want to just be like a jack of 1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:36.600 all trades, if that makes sense. 1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:40.520 But you can do all that shit on YouTube. Don't 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:42.280 pay money to learn how to do game design. 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:46.360 Go on YouTube. Do you know a guy named Toby Fox? 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:49.680 You know who that Toby Fox? 1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:52.200 Toby. I don't know what his background did, what's his background? 1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:55.320 Did he go to college? Guy makes some funk in college. 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:58.000 I think he makes video games and his mom's but 1:02:58.120 --> 1:02:59.479 he made a whole video game. 1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:03.800 They just did it. You can make video games. Go 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:05.960 make a video game. You don't need to give a college. 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:06.600 You need to give. 1:03:07.240 --> 1:03:10.040 Colleges are run by Like what does a sixty year 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:12.240 old man know about making video games? 1:03:12.720 --> 1:03:13.960 You're gonna pay exactly. 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:17.840 Yeah, don't don't go to college. Don't do that. Okay, 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:21.320 all right, you're not going to go to college and 1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:22.840 you want to explore the universe. 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:26.320 Yeah, man, And. 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:29.240 Just like just like get some because I'm trying to 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:30.800 like get to greater understanding. 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:31.680 How much money? 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:33.960 How much money do you have? Do you have any money? 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:35.840 I have? 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:36.960 So I don't. 1:03:37.440 --> 1:03:40.560 I have around like three thousand dollars right now because 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:42.800 I'm paying off college still my first time at home. 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:50.240 How much whole time? How much debt do you have with? Okay, 1:03:50.320 --> 1:03:51.320 all right, I. 1:03:51.240 --> 1:03:52.360 Want to get paid off now. 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:55.240 Yeah, I get paid off. I'm just paying off an 1:03:55.240 --> 1:03:57.640 increment so I don't have to spend a huge time 1:03:57.680 --> 1:03:58.160 of my money. 1:03:58.760 --> 1:04:02.120 Okay, you see shillings, you're you're you. That's easy. And 1:04:02.160 --> 1:04:04.200 your dodge, that's a good thing. 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:06.080 I have that I have very low commitment to things 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:11.400 right now. So it's like I'm trying to figure out. 1:04:14.120 --> 1:04:20.400 What. All right, so you've eight hundred dollars left of 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:24.000 debt and you said you're what are you going full 1:04:24.040 --> 1:04:24.840 time in doing? 1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:30.560 I work at a sandwich shop. 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:34.360 I'm not going to say the name, but okay, how's 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:35.600 it going at the sandwich shop? 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:40.400 I want a shift lead and I think people are 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:42.160 going to be leaving soon, so I might try and 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:44.760 leverage that into more pay. 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:49.800 How's it going? In general? Is the job like? Is 1:04:49.840 --> 1:04:50.320 the job? 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:51.000 Uh? 1:04:52.040 --> 1:04:58.840 You know? Is it toiling upon you? It? 1:05:00.680 --> 1:05:00.920 You know? 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:04.480 It's serving its purpose right now? I think where like, 1:05:04.800 --> 1:05:06.920 I'm making money and I'm not like, I don't want 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:09.680 to die while I do it. I'm not like, I'm 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.560 not like joyous, Yeah while I'm putting let us in 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:14.800 your sandwich, but I'm not gonna. 1:05:14.600 --> 1:05:16.320 Like but it doesn't make you want to. 1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:18.360 Die freak out? Yeah? 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:21.600 All right? Okay, all right? And then your your debt 1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:25.480 is gonna get is not that bad? And then do 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:27.600 you live? Where do you live? Do you live with 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:29.120 your parents? I live in Illinois? 1:05:30.000 --> 1:05:31.640 I live in I love my parents. 1:05:31.720 --> 1:05:36.240 Yeah, all right, it's sick, all right, save up. Here's 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:39.320 here's what I would do I think if I were ill. Well, 1:05:39.320 --> 1:05:40.600 you said you want to be a bartender? 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:45.680 Yeah, just like that just seems fun. It seems like 1:05:45.800 --> 1:05:47.600 I don't know, I can be like this cool. 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:51.760 Go Have you ever made drinks before or done anything 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:52.600 or done any of that. 1:05:56.480 --> 1:05:58.920 I mean, I'm nineteen, so whatever we get our hands 1:05:58.920 --> 1:06:00.400 on is usually the vibe. 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:03.520 You know, I forgot I forgot you, all right, So 1:06:03.600 --> 1:06:05.520 you still have two years before you can even do that. 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:09.920 Here's what I would think, what I would do to 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:11.640 tell please, I want to hear more of your dreams. 1:06:13.520 --> 1:06:17.200 I want to try and do comedy at some point too. Okay, 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:23.479 I enjoy it. I enjoyed making people laugh. 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:26.280 Comedy is fine. Comedy school I liked. 1:06:26.400 --> 1:06:30.000 I liked comedy because it was this is just it 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:32.000 was a great way to make friends. I mean a 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:34.280 lot of good friends and had a lot of h 1:06:34.400 --> 1:06:39.320 fun memories from doing comedy. And and now and now 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:40.960 I don't. I don't do comedy anymore, but I do 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.560 my Little Gecko Tours, which is like my version of that. 1:06:44.280 --> 1:06:45.600 And that's a that's a lot of fun. It's a 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:49.200 good way to do the thing that you're talking about. So, okay, 1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:58.040 I'm trying to think about you. All right, the sandwich 1:06:58.080 --> 1:07:00.400 job is serving its purpose. You got three thousand dollars, 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:05.960 you don't have any debt, you live with your parents. Okay, 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:08.080 keep saving up money. Well, let me tell you. Let 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:08.880 me ask you this question. 1:07:09.080 --> 1:07:09.720 Where do you want to go? 1:07:09.880 --> 1:07:11.520 Like, all right, you want to go see the world 1:07:11.600 --> 1:07:13.160 and do crazy things. Where do you want to go 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:13.480 the most? 1:07:13.560 --> 1:07:15.800 Right now? What's what's the number? What is number one 1:07:15.840 --> 1:07:17.320 on the bucket list of places? 1:07:18.080 --> 1:07:20.960 I mean, I think right now, it might just be 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:26.040 like I have family in Colorado, so I could go there. 1:07:26.480 --> 1:07:30.280 I have I have a friend that I might be 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:33.800 moving out to Portland soon and I might just follow him. 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:35.080 Oh so you gonna you want to move? 1:07:36.840 --> 1:07:41.160 I temp maybe temporarily, just like just get away from 1:07:41.600 --> 1:07:43.400 the Midwest for a little bit. 1:07:43.960 --> 1:07:44.400 Do you think? 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:47.720 Is how easy is it to find a job? What 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:50.200 can the sandwich shop transfer you? Is it? 1:07:50.360 --> 1:07:50.560 Chain? 1:07:53.440 --> 1:07:55.840 I you know what I'll have to ask because I 1:07:55.920 --> 1:08:02.480 probably probably could soon. Okay, Yeah, I mean I'm just 1:08:02.480 --> 1:08:04.800 just going full time now, so I probably could figure 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:06.160 something out if I wanted to. 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:09.040 I think. 1:08:10.760 --> 1:08:15.520 I think your idea of saving up money and going 1:08:15.560 --> 1:08:18.320 on adventures when you can, and then when you run 1:08:18.360 --> 1:08:21.360 out of money, you return to another place and get 1:08:21.360 --> 1:08:24.920 a bartending gig there and make some money and then 1:08:25.120 --> 1:08:26.280 go on another adventure. 1:08:26.760 --> 1:08:27.320 I like that. 1:08:27.400 --> 1:08:30.960 I've talked to a lot of people that have successfully 1:08:30.960 --> 1:08:31.240 done that. 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:32.719 I think you can do that too. 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:35.960 And you need to stop pretending to be the mom 1:08:36.120 --> 1:08:38.080 of the friend group. That's not going to get you 1:08:38.880 --> 1:08:41.360 to it's not even get you remotely close to any 1:08:41.400 --> 1:08:44.360 of these things that you've talked about, So please stop 1:08:44.400 --> 1:08:50.360 doing that. I will don't go to college, make sandwiches 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:55.599 and look old ladies in the face and say hello 1:08:55.640 --> 1:09:01.280 to them. You have a good Yeah, you'll be fine. 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:03.320 We're both gonna be fine. That's what I'm learning over 1:09:03.360 --> 1:09:03.960 the course of this guy. 1:09:04.040 --> 1:09:05.920 We're gonna do We're gonna do great things. 1:09:06.439 --> 1:09:08.600 Okay, I appreciate that. I appreciate that I'm in this 1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:08.880 with you. 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:15.439 I love you, Lyle Hey, stay stay clean, raiding, don't 1:09:15.439 --> 1:09:16.720 do any hard drugs. 1:09:18.560 --> 1:09:19.840 Oh, I'm straight edge. 1:09:20.439 --> 1:09:23.160 Okay, that's good to hear. All Right, I'll talk to 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:25.439 you soon. Raydon. Good luck to you, you too. 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:26.880 Good luck. 1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:31.639 Week goes on the line, making your phone calls every 1:09:31.720 --> 1:09:34.960 night every week, and goes to what was teaching you 1:09:35.120 --> 1:09:36.400 loudmy Life. 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:38.879 He's not really an expert.