Speaker 1: I'm Rose dam you and I'm fran Torado. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Like a Virgin, the podcast for perverts, nerds and transsexuals
Speaker 1: is our work. People who are all three and people
Speaker 1: who are all three. Intersectionality is important. I think that
Speaker 1: that must be said.
Speaker 2: Rose.
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna have a bit of a chatty
Speaker 1: episode this week because well, first of all, doll Invasion,
Speaker 1: I'm a little underwater, but also, yes, homework for the virgins.
Speaker 1: I watched Jane Shun Bruns Shun and Bruns is that
Speaker 1: It Show? And brun Jay showing Bruns film sex and
Speaker 1: Death at Camp Miasma.
Speaker 2: I watched Greg Iaki's I Want Your Sex, and now
Speaker 2: we each need to see the opposite thing. So we're
Speaker 2: giving that's homework for us and also for you virgins,
Speaker 2: because next week we're gonna go where I'm like, even
Speaker 2: though I haven't seen teen sex yet, I know I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot to say about it, and I
Speaker 2: have a lot to say about I Want Your Sex,
Speaker 2: and I have a feeling it will be similar for
Speaker 2: you on the other side of things, so we're gonna
Speaker 2: dive deep into those next week. But yes, today is
Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit chatty, like a little like
Speaker 2: kind of girls girling. Fran and I like we have
Speaker 2: seen each other recently, but haven't really like well, actually
Speaker 2: we were. We were this weekend at Dollswick. We did
Speaker 2: at one point like fully lay down in Jordan's bed
Speaker 2: and like and key. So I guess it's not true
Speaker 2: that we haven't been like keying recently, but we know
Speaker 2: what we haven't done. I think in our new era
Speaker 2: of like a virgin, we have really been wanting to
Speaker 2: do these like like we've been preparing a lot for
Speaker 2: the episodes, like writing a lot of notes, doing deep
Speaker 2: dives again, but we actually like haven't done just like
Speaker 2: a shit it posty, shit talking gossip session episode in
Speaker 2: a while. So I'm didn't we aren't these referred to
Speaker 2: as girls girls girling?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's girls girling. Yeah, the girls grolling episode including
Speaker 1: a maybe a conversation about a game of friends.
Speaker 2: Well, yet, I do think we should like get through
Speaker 2: the finale of House of the Dragon because it also
Speaker 2: I think it does kind of tie into me filling
Speaker 2: you in on what's going on in my life, because
Speaker 2: I went to a House of the Dragon event last
Speaker 2: night to watch the finale.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was the finale. First of all.
Speaker 1: I also thought it was the series finale. I did
Speaker 1: not realize that we have another season.
Speaker 2: Or season left, and honestly we have. We have so
Speaker 2: much of the bookstory left to go. Then I'm like,
Speaker 2: how are they going to cram it all into the
Speaker 2: final season because it's not just it's not just the
Speaker 2: end of the you know, collision between Rainier and Egon, Like,
Speaker 2: there's a whole the war keeps going after that is
Speaker 2: kind of figured out, and then there's all the fallout
Speaker 2: from the war. So there's a lot to get through
Speaker 2: in the next season. I don't know how they're gonna
Speaker 2: do it. But but before we talk about the finale,
Speaker 2: let me tell you. I got invited a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago by HBO to this private dinner. It's part
Speaker 2: of this new series they're doing, I guess called Sunday Supper.
Speaker 1: It was a dinner. It was a dinner.
Speaker 2: I was not allowed to bring up plus one because
Speaker 2: it was a very exclusive none of none of us
Speaker 2: were allowed to bring plus one.
Speaker 1: So that's why I didn't bring you with me.
Speaker 2: Otherwise I was not available anyways. Yeah, Okay, so it
Speaker 2: all worked out, So it all worked out. It was
Speaker 2: at Angel Orsan's Foundation, which for listeners who don't live
Speaker 2: in New York City or have never been, is this
Speaker 2: like former church that is now like a very bougie
Speaker 2: event venue. I've been to one thing there before. It
Speaker 2: was a private dinner cooked for us by a chef
Speaker 2: from I don't know. Some restaurant did.
Speaker 1: The sort of mead and turkey legs. There was mead,
Speaker 1: there was heat, there was literally me we we came in.
Speaker 2: It was this like gorgeous cathedral. The They have the
Speaker 2: iron throne there, so I got to take a photo
Speaker 2: in it, which did away did you for for HBO
Speaker 2: to send me?
Speaker 1: And did you but prick your finger only gently?
Speaker 2: I actually was kind of giving the swords a hand job,
Speaker 2: of course, so they weren't They weren't actual iron, It
Speaker 2: was plastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry to blow up their spot. Honestly, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get sued for that.
Speaker 2: There was also a string quartet playing the game of
Speaker 2: Throne score. There were like cocktails, like cocktails like I
Speaker 2: was drinking the Sunfire's Turn cocktail, which was like basically
Speaker 2: like a like a moscow mule with smoke like dried
Speaker 2: ice in it, so it was like smoking ice.
Speaker 1: I did spill a drink at one point, like I
Speaker 1: felt bad about can you uh in terms of like
Speaker 1: what it looked like, was this kind of the drink
Speaker 1: falls and to the full gravity all the way to
Speaker 1: the floor or did you spill it just on the
Speaker 1: table while you were sitting.
Speaker 2: So I spilled it on the floor and on someone's
Speaker 2: shoe to be fair, like they the shoes were cute,
Speaker 2: but I didn't feel super bad about it. Like if
Speaker 2: someone had spilled or drink on the shoes I was
Speaker 2: wearing my Antimla mister boots, I would have had something
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: But do you the glass? Did the glass fall as well?
Speaker 1: Did you cast did not fall as well?
Speaker 2: I was like trying to get something out of my
Speaker 2: purse and just like most of my drinks spilled on
Speaker 2: the floor.
Speaker 1: Whatever. It was fine.
Speaker 2: I got to meet some some it was like all
Speaker 2: influences and like, you know, I actually don't really understand
Speaker 2: why I was there because I would imagine like I.
Speaker 1: Was sitting across like influencer adjacent.
Speaker 2: I know, but I was sitting across from someone who
Speaker 2: has a million Instagram followers, one million wow, one million.
Speaker 1: It was funny.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of the other people, they were like, Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm an actor and content creator.
Speaker 1: I sorry, I'm so sorry. Who in the right mind
Speaker 1: would ever identify as a content creator or an influencer? Honestly,
Speaker 1: Like that's a slur. People who do that as a
Speaker 1: job and are proud of it, but say or something else,
Speaker 1: just say you're an artist, Like I'd rather you.
Speaker 2: I think that's why people say actor, like actor and
Speaker 2: filmmaker and content creator right right, right, right right. Well,
Speaker 2: it's like, so what did you want to be before
Speaker 2: you figured out the best you were going to do
Speaker 2: is like making not to detegrate any of these people
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're going to make way more money,
Speaker 1: oh so much more money, so you know, And I
Speaker 1: was still the best dressed, so yeah, of course you were, girl.
Speaker 1: I mean, like.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So there was like a seven course tasting menu.
Speaker 2: We had like these gigantic oysters full of fish eggs
Speaker 2: topped with like tomato pure. It was really good. There
Speaker 2: was a dragon egg dessert. The show runner, Ryan Condall
Speaker 2: was there, the showrunner and serious creator.
Speaker 1: Which one is he? In the inside the episode, he's
Speaker 1: the bald one okay, and that he's the he's the
Speaker 1: most he had shown.
Speaker 2: He's the he's the he created the show. And then
Speaker 2: the actor who plays Roddy the Ruin was also there
Speaker 2: and so he's was the old.
Speaker 1: Guy who killed Tower and he.
Speaker 2: Was it was really fun to watch his spoiler death
Speaker 2: scene with him.
Speaker 1: And then the people.
Speaker 2: Who host the House of the Dragon podcast were there
Speaker 2: and they did like little interview Q and a session
Speaker 2: with them. Afterwards, we had like a good night cocktail.
Speaker 2: They gave us some swag I have. I have a
Speaker 2: Baccarat crystal goblet. Oh that's with it with a etching
Speaker 2: that says win or die on it. I also got
Speaker 2: a hand of the Queen pen which I'm very excited
Speaker 2: to like put on a jacket or something. And it
Speaker 2: was a it was a fun night. But let's let's
Speaker 2: talk about the episode.
Speaker 1: Because I have two things, Okay. One this is not
Speaker 1: a question, it's comment. I used to say that Moscow
Speaker 1: mules are my favorite drink. I actually think they're bad
Speaker 1: and I don't like them.
Speaker 2: I love a Moscow mule. I think Ginger the vodka
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a hard turn. I love Ginger beer. I
Speaker 1: love ginger in general, and I think there's something about
Speaker 1: like it even as a winter drink, which I think
Speaker 1: it is actually firmly an autumn winter and drink, And
Speaker 1: people that service for Servant in the summer are kind
Speaker 1: of crazy. But it's so refreshed, I know. But it's
Speaker 1: traditionally served.
Speaker 2: In one of those tin cups, Like it did feel
Speaker 2: wrong last night to drink what was essentially a Moscow mule,
Speaker 2: but not in a tin cup.
Speaker 1: Not in a tin cup. I will also say I
Speaker 1: hate tasting menus. It's never not food. I'm always starving.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, let's just say my guts were bubbling
Speaker 2: on the way home. I thought maybe I had to
Speaker 2: eat in the lettuce. That makes you shit yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, it's like it sounds like King's Landing
Speaker 1: is dealing with a food quality issue. Well they're broke
Speaker 1: as fuck. Okay.
Speaker 2: That kind of segues us nicely into our discussion of
Speaker 2: the episode, because it is the funniest move ever for
Speaker 2: Raniera to be broke as fuck but have such intense
Speaker 2: post nut clarity that the morning after she has her
Speaker 2: sneaky link sent out of the city with enough gold
Speaker 2: to by herself a Manson Pento. She was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: the crown has no coin, but I gotta get this
Speaker 2: bitch out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Crazy. Honestly, I would be so grateful if I
Speaker 1: was her, I know, I know, like that the arc
Speaker 1: of what is her name? My my Saria homegirl? I
Speaker 1: love her rooting for sex workers, former sex workers. But
Speaker 1: if I was her, I'd be so relieved.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, well, clearly she wasn't because she's
Speaker 2: sticking around.
Speaker 1: She's sticking around. She's in love. She's in love, right,
Speaker 1: I think that's clear. No, that she's in love with
Speaker 1: r I don't think that. No, she's pissed at Raniera.
Speaker 1: And well she's pissed to you. Can you pissed as somebody?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, I think she is. I think
Speaker 2: she was genuinely very heartbroken when when uh Alyssa Alyssa Massey,
Speaker 2: who's Raniera's like lady in waiting, like when to tell
Speaker 2: her cocky by number two, give her her disagreement, gave
Speaker 2: her her walking papers like I'm top dog.
Speaker 1: Now and at the end and in one hour you
Speaker 1: will be logged out of your Gmail.
Speaker 2: Oh that's literally what it was.
Speaker 1: Giving. Oh my god. She walked up and she was
Speaker 1: just like, so these are your terms. Wait, here's your
Speaker 1: non disclosure.
Speaker 2: No, it was the Lady in waiting was literally and
Speaker 2: Hathaway in that meme of her on drag Race looking
Speaker 2: like an looking like an HR executive.
Speaker 1: She was HR. Wow. Yeah, and that was tough to
Speaker 1: that was stone cold, yeah, stone cold. But yeah, she's
Speaker 1: sticking around and you're also murdered the pope. Murdered the
Speaker 1: Pope really sickening. Honestly, I loved it, but I love
Speaker 1: when people are I love when Catholic and Christian figures
Speaker 1: are under duress.
Speaker 2: I loved it also, but you know, it was a
Speaker 2: bad move. It was a bad It was a bad
Speaker 2: move politically because I think what we really see by
Speaker 2: the end of the episode, and what I'm interested to
Speaker 2: see play out next season, is like the small folk,
Speaker 2: they have had it and she just killed their religious leader,
Speaker 2: stood up in front of them, called herself the prince
Speaker 2: who was promised, very embarrassing for her, and told them
Speaker 2: about this ransom vague threat in the north, and then
Speaker 2: spoken high Valerian like she could not have made herself
Speaker 2: more of like more separate from the people when the
Speaker 2: whole her whole thing is like Ranier was the realm's delight,
Speaker 2: that's what they called her, and now she's squandered all
Speaker 2: that goodwill.
Speaker 1: She's a fool. Well, she's not a fool, she's like paranoid.
Speaker 1: I think I think she has I think now she
Speaker 1: is actually into full territory. I think this episode, even
Speaker 1: though she's always been impulsive, this episode was a very
Speaker 1: like fuck it on another level. I am going to
Speaker 1: make decisions, I know, to be reckless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she was so destabilized from finding out that
Speaker 2: Eggon was back.
Speaker 1: She was like I like she was crying to Damon.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, she was like husbunk husbunkle please.
Speaker 1: I mean she helped me. She was humiliated.
Speaker 2: It is she was at her lowest, fat, nasty, and broke.
Speaker 2: She came on this dragon mad as hell.
Speaker 1: She came on this dragon mad as hell. And and
Speaker 1: not just that, she took a fucking you know bella lash,
Speaker 1: cut it into six pieces and glued two right under
Speaker 1: her eye. What's up with her eye makeup? It was
Speaker 1: such a bizarre choice from the makeup directors that like
Speaker 1: I understood and also did it like I was like,
Speaker 1: I understand that we aesthetically are now seeing full tyrant Rania,
Speaker 1: like well full authoritarian and like fascist fascist Ranera, like
Speaker 1: that is clear, and so I think they were kind
Speaker 1: of like, hm, but she needs a makeover.
Speaker 2: So she got a makeover. But they were like, let's
Speaker 2: give her a nineteen twenties ass, like tiny lash in
Speaker 2: the middle of her eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what the It was like fucking glam netics,
Speaker 1: like just right there. I was like, this is crazy,
Speaker 1: but I didn't hate it. It was a little evil,
Speaker 1: like it was severe, It was a little It was
Speaker 1: a little evil, and I.
Speaker 2: Like, well, between I think her making Alan stab the Pope, yeah,
Speaker 2: her confrontation with Bayla who needs a gun.
Speaker 1: Yes, and confrontation with pregnant homegirl Oracle.
Speaker 2: The scene between Helena and Raniera made me so sad,
Speaker 2: like when Helena said when she was talking about the
Speaker 2: beetle and she was like everything thing you love is ugly,
Speaker 2: like cleared her ass, and then Raniera makes the force
Speaker 2: feed her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It made me so sad. It also
Speaker 1: reminded me.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever watched the HBO original
Speaker 2: movie Iron Jawed Angels about the Suffragette movement, but there's
Speaker 2: a similar scene in that featuring Hilary Swank getting force
Speaker 2: fed food. But I hated it made me so so
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Maddy's secret down.
Speaker 1: I yeah, so that then also, okay, Raniera did that.
Speaker 1: Ranier also then she severanced her her you know, her
Speaker 1: side piece. She does this speech. Wait, there was like
Speaker 1: one other crazy things she did. Oh who is this child?
Speaker 1: That was actually I need some of the explain who's
Speaker 1: this child that's now her?
Speaker 2: What that is Jeffrey? He is her the youngest of
Speaker 2: her sons, her bastard well her bastard sons, and then
Speaker 2: she has the only children she has left, or her
Speaker 2: two sons with Damon, who we haven't seen since the
Speaker 2: first season. But they will need they will need to
Speaker 2: at least bring one of them into the final season
Speaker 2: because he becomes very plot significant. So yeah, that was
Speaker 2: her son who is now her heir. And he looked
Speaker 2: so unimpressed with everything she was telling him. He was like,
Speaker 2: where's my iPad?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Literally, like literally like rianiro was like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is my next plan, and it's like truly, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just feeling so dark. That's why I was like
Speaker 1: I was like, this feels like the final season to me,
Speaker 1: I can't believe that there's a whole other season of this.
Speaker 2: No, there's so much left. We said goodbye to some divas,
Speaker 2: most notably Ormond High Tower, who's so gay. He got
Speaker 2: stabbed to death in the ass. Yeah, and then went
Speaker 2: up in flames. That's about the gayest day you can have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and was giving. It was a really good yet
Speaker 1: really good death scene. So good.
Speaker 2: It was amazing that he that, Like it was so
Speaker 2: satisfying because he was such a like tyrant all season,
Speaker 2: so for him to have such a satisfying death with
Speaker 2: Roddy the Ruin laughing behind him as the dragon burned
Speaker 2: their asses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so sick, really really fierce, Like, uh, I
Speaker 1: love that death. Helena. Helena's death, as we said earlier,
Speaker 1: I actually don't get it. I know it's been explained
Speaker 1: as kind of like, oh, she knows that her life
Speaker 1: is just always going to be like this, and so
Speaker 1: she should kill herself. And it's like, no, your mom
Speaker 1: could come back, but do you not want to stay
Speaker 1: alive for your mom? No?
Speaker 2: Because her mom. This season we spent watching her like
Speaker 2: start hating her mother. Because her mom was like, get
Speaker 2: aboard the kid, We've all done it.
Speaker 1: She doesn't, she knows.
Speaker 2: And and then I think the final betrayal was when
Speaker 2: she realized that Alison lied about having the kid meet
Speaker 2: them when they were going.
Speaker 1: To escape the palace, like, oh wait, I miss that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the remember when they got stuck in the
Speaker 2: hallways behind the palace when they were trying to escape.
Speaker 2: Alison had told Helena to get her to agree to it,
Speaker 2: that they were going to that someone was going to
Speaker 2: meet them with her daughter, And then she realized that
Speaker 2: Allison was lying about it. So I think that was
Speaker 2: the straw that broke the dragons back.
Speaker 1: She was like, I have no one here. I'd no
Speaker 1: one here.
Speaker 2: She had like the prophecies she had, you know, we
Speaker 2: saw in her dreams in the last episode, like she
Speaker 2: had all these fantasies of ways that this could work out,
Speaker 2: Like she could be, you know, off living with her children,
Speaker 2: with some chickens. She could get on her dragon and
Speaker 2: Dracaris her way out of King's Landing. And really the
Speaker 2: only thing that was left to her was to kill herself.
Speaker 2: And that's so sad and devastating and like it says
Speaker 2: so much about this world that like, the one person
Speaker 2: who kind of had a bird's eye view of it
Speaker 2: who knew what was coming, was like, out, where is
Speaker 2: her dragon? Her dragon is in the dragon pit, which
Speaker 2: will also become significant next season.
Speaker 1: You are fortunately almost spoiling things. Honestly, you better watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying anything. Well, I'm sorry, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying anything. This is an adaptation of a novel, so
Speaker 2: it's also going to change. Many things can change. Okay,
Speaker 2: what were some other moments of the episode. I really
Speaker 2: liked the scene with Alice the Witch at Heronhall and
Speaker 2: aimoned that is some backstory that is not in the book.
Speaker 2: So this is a show invention, but like it very
Speaker 2: much is plausible, and I thought it was really interesting
Speaker 2: and it was nice to see her like being vulnerable.
Speaker 2: The scene with Agon and aimed, like, uh, his line
Speaker 2: delivery of I'm alive, it was so incredible.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy how we went from really hating this
Speaker 1: character to like, actually now at this point in the show,
Speaker 1: I'm on his team.
Speaker 2: People were cheering for him at this event last night,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, you're cheering for Agon.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: He's such a he is. She is being played. The
Speaker 2: actor is really compelling. It's a really good performance and
Speaker 2: I get it like they have. They this season has
Speaker 2: done a really good job to make Team Green more
Speaker 2: sympathetic through Aimened and Agon and even Darren a little bit,
Speaker 2: and to make to really show us.
Speaker 1: How fallible Rnier is. Nevertheless, I'm with her. You're still
Speaker 1: with Rania?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, she's the She is not the prince that
Speaker 2: was promised, but she's the queen.
Speaker 1: She needs to transition. That is her throne. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this lot could have been solved. It could have been
Speaker 1: solved literally, sorry literally, could have been so easy for
Speaker 1: her him a couple things that Ryan Condall told us
Speaker 1: last night that I just thought were interesting.
Speaker 2: So this the season three. They shot for three hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty one days. That's my god, over a year
Speaker 2: for one season of television. The Battle at Tumbleton took
Speaker 2: forty one days to shoot, The Battle of the Gullet
Speaker 2: was about thirty and Helena her death, the scene where
Speaker 2: she's dead was her last scene that she filmed, and
Speaker 2: then she had to say goodbye to everybody with that
Speaker 2: prosthetic spike sticking out of her neck, which I thought,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, cute, But what did you think of
Speaker 2: the season as a whole?
Speaker 1: I thought that, like every season of House a Dragon
Speaker 1: in Game of Throw, there are going to be episodes
Speaker 1: that are just tons of exposition and moving things along
Speaker 1: and like people talking to each other, which is my
Speaker 1: least favorite genre of fantasy. But I had this thought
Speaker 1: last night while I was watching it, where I was
Speaker 1: kind of like, if I were to compare House of
Speaker 1: Dragon to Game of Thrones, I ultimately enjoy the containment
Speaker 1: of the story of House of Dragon and how the
Speaker 1: story truly zooms in on a relatively singular goal, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: it is once again a Game of Thrones, but there's
Speaker 1: there's so much I love having to focus in on
Speaker 1: a smaller world. And I also really love all of
Speaker 1: the different ways that the working class are brought into
Speaker 1: the story and the characters that are kind of representing
Speaker 1: those values or that this kind of like group of
Speaker 1: people are like in the episode I do come on
Speaker 1: working Families, Party of West ROAs. Yes, literally that. How
Speaker 1: do you feel ultimately about the season.
Speaker 2: I liked it much more than last season. Yes, I
Speaker 2: think it was a lot darker. The characters got more complex,
Speaker 2: there were things I didn't like that. I just you know,
Speaker 2: Allison in the source material, Like at this point, Allison
Speaker 2: is not part of the story, so everything they've done
Speaker 2: with her is a show invention. I just think they
Speaker 2: like don't really know what to do with her. So
Speaker 2: that's kind of a bummer. Otherwise, I thought this was
Speaker 2: a really good season. Lots of dragons, yeah, lots of
Speaker 2: gay guys.
Speaker 1: I'm reading the dragons and the gay guys and that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got GWayne lost two tops this season. He lost
Speaker 2: Kristen Cole and his cousin. He and he's already dead
Speaker 2: at this point in the book, so who knows what's
Speaker 2: going to happen to him?
Speaker 1: Right? GWayne is gay? Right? He is gay? Confirmed? He's gay.
Speaker 1: Love that. Yeah. He He is definitely my favorite twink
Speaker 1: and on the show he's a good twink in general.
Speaker 2: Grey Freddy, uh, Freddy Fox or something, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know his name, it's Freddy something, right, He's hot.
Speaker 2: He was also in the Netflix Sandman Show in which
Speaker 2: he's gay with Jeffrey from Game of Thrones. No way,
Speaker 2: Jeffrey one of they're gay for each other. One of
Speaker 2: the most upsetting villains in the History of humanity Jeoffrey. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in such a Sandman, he's Puck whoa And.
Speaker 1: I couldnt really.
Speaker 2: What's his face? The twink is Loki and.
Speaker 1: I could not really get into Sandmon. I tried watching
Speaker 1: the first episode and I was like, I don't really
Speaker 1: want to watch a show that's essentially like a surrealist poem.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And you know what now you never have to because
Speaker 2: Neil Gayman sucks, babe.
Speaker 1: If I wanted to watch a surrealist poem, I'd be
Speaker 1: go seeing Cats on Broadway.
Speaker 2: Okay, which is now closed, which is crazy. It's actually
Speaker 2: psycho like, how the fuck? Although they are still recording
Speaker 2: an original Broadway cast album.
Speaker 1: Thanks that news. I think that's so fierce. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to hear Chastity more on the track there. I
Speaker 1: did see uh. I did see the performance again and
Speaker 1: the and Grizabella was played by the understudy who was
Speaker 1: name unfortunately escaped me at this time, but she tore
Speaker 1: so good. I'm so sorry that I can't remember your name.
Speaker 1: I will maybe link.
Speaker 2: Is she the diva who had kind of like the
Speaker 2: alto voice. It was like one of the side characters
Speaker 2: when we saw.
Speaker 1: It, poss I can't uh possibly, yes, I honestly should remember,
Speaker 1: but I bring it up to say that it is
Speaker 1: like disappointing that like Broadway still has never really figured
Speaker 1: out like how to finance shows that are actually successful,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. Like that's like the
Speaker 1: problem with most shows on Broadway is even if a
Speaker 1: show is filling ninety eight percent of its audience every night,
Speaker 1: which like it was true for Cats at a certain
Speaker 1: point in time, it still ultimately can't fund itself if
Speaker 1: the math isn't mathing and if like sales started to
Speaker 1: decline and so yeah, Broadway shows have to be one
Speaker 1: hundred percent profitable to survive. The under study's name is
Speaker 1: Garnette Williams and she was a fucking bomb. Loved her,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I'm like I had a really bizarre
Speaker 1: experience a couple like a week and a half ago,
Speaker 1: as my friend brought me to a dinner that their
Speaker 1: family had wanted an action at Vanessa Williams house.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean I didn't know about I
Speaker 2: know about this, but I haven't like gotten the full
Speaker 2: story from you, So please please go.
Speaker 1: The honestly, like what can I even say. We drove
Speaker 1: to where she lives in, you know, I think Bedford,
Speaker 1: New York or something like that. You know, the door
Speaker 1: opens and it's Vanessa Williams in a sun dress and
Speaker 1: flip flops, and I'm like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: so crazy. And we had dinner with ten or twelve people,
Speaker 1: and all of them were Broadway producers, every single one
Speaker 1: of them. And it was really interesting to hear them
Speaker 1: all discuss, ultimately what is the same issue, all of
Speaker 1: them understanding that they, yes, do theater as a passion,
Speaker 1: like yes, not every project they invest in is going
Speaker 1: to be lucrative, and also like it has to make
Speaker 1: ends meet, and them negotiating like how they decide to
Speaker 1: finance shows and blah blah blah blah. It was really
Speaker 1: really interesting to hear, especially with like Venessa Williams, like
Speaker 1: sitting right there. She had multiple portraits of herself in
Speaker 1: her house, fabulous one of her which was like a
Speaker 1: commissioned painting of her as the witch and in the
Speaker 1: woods looking so oh my god. I literally used her toilet.
Speaker 1: I farted in her toilet. It was so beautiful. I've
Speaker 1: never been happier. Honestly, we all talked about what our
Speaker 1: first Broadway shows were, and even though technically it would
Speaker 1: be Wicked, because I saw it in Chicago, like the
Speaker 1: Broadway Rendition in Chicago. Yeah, but that's not that's not
Speaker 1: that's not Broadway. It doesn't count. Well, see that's what
Speaker 1: I said. But then the Broadway producers were like, that's Broadway,
Speaker 1: that's Broadway, and I was like, no, it's not. The
Speaker 1: first show I saw on broad Away in New York
Speaker 1: was How to Succeed in Business Without really Trying, starring
Speaker 1: Daniel d Cliff. Did you know? I did not know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I never saw that production, but it
Speaker 1: was really good. There's a dance break in that that
Speaker 1: Daniel Radcliffe like, it's so delicious. He's so good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I on the state of Broadway cats, et cetera. I
Speaker 1: really don't know why it's going away. I think it's confusing.
Speaker 1: It's not that it can't be that expensive to make.
Speaker 2: M I think it's I think it's expensive to produce
Speaker 2: any Broadway show. But I would imagine that, you know,
Speaker 2: I would say that like the musicals with less uh
Speaker 2: inclusive casts seemed to run longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I don't even know what's on Broadway
Speaker 1: right now, Like, oh, I really want to see the
Speaker 1: Lost Boys musical. I know that seems so your tea
Speaker 1: and O shade it down.
Speaker 2: I'm and it's like vampire music between that and The
Speaker 2: Vampire lest At.
Speaker 1: Oh when I I.
Speaker 2: Just like a an update. I rewatched The Vampire lest
Speaker 2: At all the way through and I liked it more
Speaker 2: of the second time. But I think all my all
Speaker 2: my thoughts still stand. But the music from it is
Speaker 2: the vampirelest that will be in my Spotify wrap this year.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you serious? Yeah? I listened to
Speaker 1: it all the time. It's so good. Have you also
Speaker 1: been cranking Hades from the Odyssey from Christopher Nolans Odyssey soundtrack?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I did think about putting it on a sex playlist, right.
Speaker 1: It's pretty dark for a sex playlist, but also not No,
Speaker 1: it's giving sex. In my opinion, it is giving sex.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to tell my role play story,
Speaker 2: but I feel like that's for the Patreon.
Speaker 1: No, I think that's for the Patreon.
Speaker 2: I think that which is a good reason for you
Speaker 2: to subscribe to our patreon at patreon dot com.
Speaker 1: Slash like a Vision where we like to share disgusting
Speaker 1: little sex stories. I mean, I'm a married woman now,
Speaker 1: so I don't have well, you're married to Jesus. I'm
Speaker 1: married to Jesus. Uh, so I don't have as much
Speaker 1: crazy sex anymore. That isn't with my betrothed Jesus Jesus.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I honestly have to say virgins. I've been
Speaker 1: so happy with all of the episodes that I've been
Speaker 1: so happy with the deep diving we've been doing on
Speaker 1: recent episodes, like Rosa and I have so much fun
Speaker 1: nerding out on some of these things. We are like,
Speaker 1: as we said, back and better than ever. Uh. Because
Speaker 1: Rose and I are very busy this month, we're like,
Speaker 1: you know, recording some of the bonus episodes like in
Speaker 1: between Moments before Doll Invasion. But I have to say,
Speaker 1: if you can rate the show five stars on Spotify
Speaker 1: or iTunes, please do that. You have no idea actually
Speaker 1: how much it really could help. And also just recommend
Speaker 1: the podcast to friends. That's like the biggest possible thing
Speaker 1: you could do is just for word of mouth.
Speaker 2: And if you also want to you know, sweeten the
Speaker 2: deal with your mouth, yeah, and get them to listen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to do it, but I'm I
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. I want to know if you have
Speaker 1: seen any like kind of older, any movies lately that
Speaker 1: are like not recent and coming out. I feel like
Speaker 1: I have one on my letterbox. Uh yes, okay, I
Speaker 1: finally watched Titan Oh. I've always been scared to watch it.
Speaker 1: The only thing I know is that somebody fucks a
Speaker 1: car and gets pregnant with a car. It was. You
Speaker 1: will not be surprised to learn that I've loved it.
Speaker 1: It's very trans. I have heard that.
Speaker 2: Because the star of the movie, who is a serial
Speaker 2: killer who gets pregnant with a car's baby, has to
Speaker 2: run away and go undercover as this guy's long lost son,
Speaker 2: and she's like binding her breast and her pregnant stomach
Speaker 2: and so like it was. The film had so many
Speaker 2: interesting things to say about, like masculinity and like the
Speaker 2: way it's performed. And I also think like there is
Speaker 2: definitely a trans narrative.
Speaker 1: There's like people say that a lot about Tatane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like even maybe not like specifically like trans
Speaker 2: in our current conception of it, but because it's a
Speaker 2: French film, but I think like it's about gender for sure,
Speaker 2: and like gender performance, Like because the idea of a car,
Speaker 2: you know, this kind of ultimate symbol of a specific
Speaker 2: type of masculinity, like being fucked by it, becoming pregnant
Speaker 2: with it, transform like because of that, transforming into a man,
Speaker 2: while you're also a serial killer who uses a very
Speaker 2: phallic weapon to murder people, but also a very feminine weapon.
Speaker 2: Her murder weapon is a titanium chopstick that she uses
Speaker 2: to put up her hair, So it's like at once
Speaker 2: it's it's this weapon that she's using to penetrate people
Speaker 2: in this very like masculine way, but it's this object
Speaker 2: of very feminine adornment. So it's just like that is
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that the movie explores. I think
Speaker 2: it's so interesting and sexy and weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Donna Harroway has anything to say about it,
Speaker 1: all cyborg stories are trans, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like Terminator, trans Transformers, Well, Transformers is not sidebarcs. They're
Speaker 1: just pure machines. Maybe Transformers is not trans, but there's
Speaker 1: trans in the name. It's trans. It's trans. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all it takes. Yeah, if you transform into something that's
Speaker 1: trans period. Yeah, I don't know if I'll ever watch it.
Speaker 1: You should everyone, So would you get save five stars?
Speaker 1: I gave it. I don't, and that's what it's giving
Speaker 1: to me. No, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's really well, I think because maybe it's in French
Speaker 2: and it has serious themes, but like it's also really
Speaker 2: fun and weird, and I think just for the trans stuff,
Speaker 2: you should watch it.
Speaker 1: I hate movies. I feel like homeworks are it's really
Speaker 1: is not.
Speaker 2: I had it on my watch list for so long,
Speaker 2: and I think I felt the same way that you do,
Speaker 2: because I put off watching it forever and I even
Speaker 2: started to watch it a month ago and it was
Speaker 2: on to be and the first time a commercial came on,
Speaker 2: I was like, nope, I'm out. But then I'm so
Speaker 2: happy that I went back and watched it because it's
Speaker 2: so good. But you know what, you don't have to
Speaker 2: watch it if you don't want to.
Speaker 1: I you know, after seeing Sex deathic Cam Sex and
Speaker 1: deathic Cami as my thing, I'm I'm my quota for
Speaker 1: homework movies.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well that's very intrigued for discussion next day.
Speaker 1: I bet that because you're a contrarian you're gonna love it. Well,
Speaker 1: love I loved I saw the TV glow right.
Speaker 2: Even though I had problems with it, I still really
Speaker 2: liked it. But you know what I saw what Muriel's
Speaker 2: Wedding something I still have not seen Girl Tony possibly
Speaker 2: possibly better than The Odyssey, possibly better than up ton Girls.
Speaker 1: That's a tall order. Yeah. I tried watching this film
Speaker 1: like almost ten years ago with an ex who it
Speaker 1: was like their favorite movie and I felt like the
Speaker 1: the for the Virgins. Muriel's Wedding is about a girl
Speaker 1: that lives in like podunk Nowhere, Australia. She has a
Speaker 1: bunch of friends from high school that are like extremely
Speaker 1: extremely mean to her, and the rest of the film
Speaker 1: is her kind of not necessarily come up in but
Speaker 1: she kind of like goes on her own journey to
Speaker 1: like make meaning of a new life after coming in
Speaker 1: after bagging some cash. But the initial scenes of this
Speaker 1: movie are some I'm not going to lie. I know
Speaker 1: it's a comedy, but I found the initial scenes of
Speaker 1: the high school bullying to be really brutal, like really
Speaker 1: really really sad. And I remember that's when the first
Speaker 1: time I tried to watch it. That's why I turned off.
Speaker 1: I was like, I actually don't think I will enjoy
Speaker 1: this movie and place in Australia, right, it's the most Australian.
Speaker 1: Why I can't watch it. That's too much Australian accents
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: By the titles go on, Yeah, no, I would have
Speaker 2: to watch the film on silent with subtitles.
Speaker 1: The place she lives in is called pap and Okay,
Speaker 1: but I watched it again, fell in love five stars.
Speaker 1: Absolutely adored this movie. But the opening scene again so
Speaker 1: so devastating to watch her be treated by these mean
Speaker 1: high school girls. I shed h two huge, giant, big
Speaker 1: fat tears because Tony Compelling, Tony Compelly, Tony Collette is
Speaker 1: so compelling, she's so like we should name her, rename
Speaker 1: her Tony Compelling, Tony Compelling. She's so fucking devastating. And
Speaker 1: I was inspired to watch it because it's another work
Speaker 1: that John Early cites a lot in terms of like
Speaker 1: inspiration for his work and Maddi's Secret, and you can
Speaker 1: really see a version of the thing that Maddy's Secret
Speaker 1: Maddy's Secret does where it's like hard, hard comedy punctuated
Speaker 1: with really abrupt, sharp turns of like devastating emotional sincerity.
Speaker 2: I love that and I have always wanted to watch it.
Speaker 2: I'm I actually don't know why I didn't watch it
Speaker 2: when I was writing Best Woman, when I was like
Speaker 2: watching so many rom coms about weddings.
Speaker 1: The ending is so satiating because the characters arc has
Speaker 1: a discovery about herself that is so actually more valuable
Speaker 1: than anything I've ever done, with like eight months of
Speaker 1: AMDR therapy that I like, actually, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: done with this and like, actually Mural's wedding fixed me
Speaker 1: up more like I was like, this is some real,
Speaker 1: like therapized human shit. Well, I love that you. It
Speaker 1: gave you all this emotional catharsis. Yeah, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: There's also in an unexpected place. I love when that happens.
Speaker 1: There's also a character introduced toward the end of the
Speaker 1: film that's extremely hot in a in a kind of
Speaker 1: nineties gay porn way, and I think you'll enjoy that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I am sure I will. On the related note
Speaker 2: about being moved nearly to tears for me, I recently
Speaker 2: I decided I wanted to go back and read a
Speaker 2: bunch of classic X Men comics, so I downloaded the
Speaker 2: X men Omnibus number one. This is the Chris Claremont
Speaker 2: era and it's the introduction of a lot of iconic mutants.
Speaker 2: So I was reading the comic panel where Storm is
Speaker 2: first introduced, and like it legitimately gagged me and like I.
Speaker 1: Like kind of choked up. Oh, I was like that.
Speaker 2: I was like, it was so incredible to see this
Speaker 2: iconic character who I love so much be introduced for
Speaker 2: the first time, and like I'd like you I had,
Speaker 2: you know, heard all these things, like I knew all
Speaker 2: this lore about her, which is that she was worshiped
Speaker 2: as a goddess in Africa, and when Professor X found
Speaker 2: her and was like, actually you're a mutant. Come be
Speaker 2: part of my paramilitary squad. But actually seeing it, like
Speaker 2: the opening scene of her is like her like these village,
Speaker 2: these villagers like coming and beseeching her for rain for
Speaker 2: their crops, and.
Speaker 1: Like it's just was just so fucking cool. That sounds cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, Storm halle Berry has like was iconic
Speaker 1: as Storm, but like I would I think anybody would
Speaker 1: watch us Storm series, we have not.
Speaker 2: I think as much as I love halle Berry as Storm,
Speaker 2: like I really want especially now that we're we've seen
Speaker 2: the introduction of young Jean Gray and we've gotten more
Speaker 2: confirmed casting for X Men. Kit Connor is going to
Speaker 2: play Cyclops, and so I'm really hoping that we get
Speaker 2: a young Storm who we really get to see come
Speaker 2: into her own. The rumor is that again, as we
Speaker 2: said last week, Jane Lawson is rumored to be playing her,
Speaker 2: and I really hope that happens. I'm just so excited
Speaker 2: to see a new incarnation of Storm.
Speaker 1: I mean Storm, honestly everybody's favorite X Men. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to Cyclops slash Kick. Connors is boring as fun.
Speaker 1: He's the worst. He's the worst X Men.
Speaker 2: I mean he's good because of the drama that he's
Speaker 2: involved in, you know, like because of like the love triangle.
Speaker 2: Well really it's because of his presence and two iconic
Speaker 2: love triangles him Emma Frost, Jean Gray, and then him
Speaker 2: Jean Gray Wolverine. So's he's messy boots, which we love,
Speaker 2: but he is very boring.
Speaker 1: He is just I hate any character that's like the
Speaker 1: auto leader, you know what I mean, Like it's it's
Speaker 1: unclear like how he has like been. I know that
Speaker 1: he was like the first recruit or whatever. But I'm
Speaker 1: just like, stop bossing everyone around to the fuck up,
Speaker 1: and I hate someone that it feels like a kind
Speaker 1: of like he seems like such a clean teen rule follower,
Speaker 1: kind of like teacher's pet kind of energy and it,
Speaker 1: and in that is like very boring to me. No,
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: In this comics run I'm reading, he's like so Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler,
Speaker 2: and a couple other mutants all get introduced at once.
Speaker 2: They're brought into the X Men because a bunch of
Speaker 2: the original X Men have gone missing. I'm the only
Speaker 2: one left is Cyclops. And when he's like being their
Speaker 2: new team leader, he's so fucking annoying and like I
Speaker 2: would be like, find these bitches yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I when I think about like my faves,
Speaker 1: I do love Angel. I'm not gonna lie, but we
Speaker 1: haven't really had like tons of like Angel movie material.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in X Men Apocalypse, but that's not
Speaker 2: a good movie and it wasn't a great depiction of him.
Speaker 1: Uh. Storm is probably my favorite, close second. I do
Speaker 1: love Nightcrawler, obviously, I love Beast. Beast is arguably the
Speaker 1: hottest X Man. He's for sure the hottest. Everyone thinks
Speaker 1: Wolverine is really hot. I've kind of actually never felt
Speaker 1: I think he's unambiguously jacked. He's unambiguously hot, like you whatever,
Speaker 1: but I've never personally that's not been my show.
Speaker 2: I think Hugh Jackman's Wolverine is hot, and I also
Speaker 2: think the version of him in X Men Evolution is
Speaker 2: kind of hot.
Speaker 1: You and I need to watch X three. We do,
Speaker 1: I and you're back from Honcho. We're watching X three.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm scared for Honcho Rose. What the
Speaker 1: fuck am like?
Speaker 2: I'm I know, I'm sure you're gonna have a great time.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a little scared for you as well, but
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: Virgins. You have to know that to go to Honcho,
Speaker 1: which is Cancho camp About, which is a kind of like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to conflate these two because they're very different,
Speaker 1: but it's like a kind of Beltane adjacent, maybe almost
Speaker 1: like Burning Men. I'm not gonna say.
Speaker 2: It's like fairy music, gay fairy music festival vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Beltane for people with four O one
Speaker 1: k's well, Beltane is also that noane is free. It is,
Speaker 1: but like it's like, who can afford to like take
Speaker 1: a week off and go to drugs in the woods
Speaker 1: besides people who have a lot of money, well, people
Speaker 1: who are unemployed. That's true. Uh the I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say that you do have to spend so much
Speaker 1: fucking money. Did you like to buy assembly, babes. I
Speaker 1: we borrowed a tent from day. You have an air matter,
Speaker 1: but I have an air mattress. I just realized that
Speaker 1: I have to pack that. But I also like, we
Speaker 1: have to pack like so much snacks, which I love,
Speaker 1: so many different kind of bits and bobs. There's no electricity.
Speaker 1: I also just found out that I'm not shitting in
Speaker 1: a toilet. I thought there were toilets. There's no toilets.
Speaker 1: You just shit in a port of body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you then but you get to piss outside
Speaker 2: and oh my god, I love I love camping because
Speaker 2: I never sleep as well as when I'm sleeping outdoors.
Speaker 1: I literally am always. I remember, I've heard you say
Speaker 1: that before, and I think it's so shocking that but like,
Speaker 1: when was the last time you camped?
Speaker 2: Belt No Fall Gathering twenty seven, twenty sixteen, it's been
Speaker 2: a while. I would love to go camping again.
Speaker 1: Should do it.
Speaker 2: We should do like a like a girls camping trip
Speaker 2: with like you know, the dolls Cherry and Tory and Lord.
Speaker 1: Justin Fuckington eats on an open fire, like, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I would love to rose marshmallows. I want to make
Speaker 1: s'mores so badly. My baby will definitely have this. You
Speaker 1: and I are also played. We're trying to plan something
Speaker 1: for the for autumn.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we need to check back in with our
Speaker 2: sisters about the French.
Speaker 1: Countryside, possibly visiting the French countryside and having our provincial life. Yes,
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll do like a little day trip to
Speaker 1: Paris because I found out recently because my cousin emailed
Speaker 1: me a photo. Best Woman is in Paris in my
Speaker 1: favorite bookstore. I'm Shakespeare Company. It's in Shakespeare Company, yes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, famously the shop lecter from Shakespeare.
Speaker 2: The It hasn't been translated, the translation rights haven't been
Speaker 2: bought yet, but it's there are copies of the UK
Speaker 2: in Shakespeare Company. And my cousin is there with his
Speaker 2: kids on a trip and they spotted it and I
Speaker 2: thought it was very cool. Also My nephew started kindergarten
Speaker 2: today and he had like a little every time he
Speaker 2: like starts a school year, like they take pictures of
Speaker 2: him with a little slate and it like you know,
Speaker 2: says like his name, his like interest, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And he took one for kindergarten and it said what
Speaker 2: do you want to be when you grow up? And
Speaker 2: he wrote an author.
Speaker 1: My impact an author slash dj Wrose slash podcast os
Speaker 1: slash podcast host. I'm speaking of speaking of babies. There
Speaker 1: was a baby at your DJ set this weekend, Yes,
Speaker 1: icon it.
Speaker 2: There was a there was my booth, bitch this weekend
Speaker 2: at Dalswick was a literal baby.
Speaker 1: A literal newborn baby name to Hetty.
Speaker 2: Name Hetty, who is one of the cutest babies. I
Speaker 2: got to meet him, you know, one on one.
Speaker 1: Last week, and I'm so obsessed with him, the fashion
Speaker 1: baby baby.
Speaker 2: I was asking them, like, do you have any like
Speaker 2: baby pleats please or like, you know, baby calm and
Speaker 2: they said no, So I need to start looking.
Speaker 1: They first the fact, Okay, our friends Martin Cook are
Speaker 1: literally two of our most fashionable, like tasteful friends I
Speaker 1: can possibly think of. I'm shocked that they don't have
Speaker 1: baby calm shocked.
Speaker 2: Well, it just might not exist if what what?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 2: Wait, okay, speaking of playing dress up with small things,
Speaker 2: I have I started an exciting new journey.
Speaker 1: I for years.
Speaker 2: Have been hovering around this Rose do Wipicator Titanic Franklin
Speaker 2: Mint doll from the nineties Rose Rose from Titanic.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a a doll of her made in
Speaker 2: the nineties by the Franklin Mint, and she has you
Speaker 2: can buy every outfit she has from the movie. And
Speaker 2: there's a trunk that was sold for her that like
Speaker 2: the doll goes in and also like it's like a
Speaker 2: little closet and you hang all the dresses up.
Speaker 1: Rose. It's only two two hundred dollars. Come on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I could not find the actual trunk, but I finally
Speaker 2: I finally bought one for two thousand dollars. I bought
Speaker 2: a men's condition Rose doll in the jump dress, the
Speaker 2: like red beaded dress that she wears when she's gonna
Speaker 2: jump off the ship and Jack saves her. And then
Speaker 2: I also bought the dress that she wears to dinner
Speaker 2: when they like go below dancing below decks. I think
Speaker 2: the next one I'm gonna buy will be the boarding
Speaker 2: outfit with the hat. They even sell the kimono that
Speaker 2: she wears to get drawn by Jack. They you can
Speaker 2: buy like her her like corset from the scene where
Speaker 2: her mom is careful mother, you'll give yourself a nosebleed Rose.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the intricacies. I'm looking at the tiny
Speaker 1: heart of the ocean. Yep. Oh my god. This is
Speaker 1: like God's her doll collecting like and I like that.
Speaker 2: It's I like that I need so many things to
Speaker 2: have this, and I want to make it a long
Speaker 2: project of collecting every piece from this collection.
Speaker 1: I love that there's this trunk set, but she herself,
Speaker 1: Kate Winslet, fits into the trunk as well. Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I also really I saw while I was looking at
Speaker 2: this on eBay a print of the drawing of Rose,
Speaker 2: and I think I need to get it and hang
Speaker 2: it in my bathroom.
Speaker 1: I think you do. That's a literal perfect bathroom art.
Speaker 1: Bathrooms are for porn in my in my.
Speaker 2: Toe, I agree, Yeah, I need some porn in my bathroom.
Speaker 2: I also really need to paint my bathroom. Finally, I
Speaker 2: could not be me.
Speaker 1: I have been telling myself I'm gonna paint the rooms
Speaker 1: that I wanted to paint my house literally two and
Speaker 1: a half years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, I keep every year I do the same thing,
Speaker 2: which is, when I renew my lease, I'm like, now
Speaker 2: it's the time to paint. And then like, if I'm
Speaker 2: any less than six months away, if I'm any less
Speaker 2: than six months away from renewing it again, I'm like,
Speaker 2: well I should just.
Speaker 1: Wait till I renew my leiase again, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm not planning to leave here anytime soon,
Speaker 2: but I still let myself do this every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, classic white can't go wrong.
Speaker 2: No, I really want to paint my bathroom green or
Speaker 2: pink or maybe like a black and white stripe moment
Speaker 2: stripes And who's doing that?
Speaker 1: Your task? Rab it? Yeah, I guess. No.
Speaker 2: I think if it was just one solid color, I
Speaker 2: think I could paint my bathroom myself.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do that, or like, I'll ask
Speaker 1: Ryan for help and he'll help me with it. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: I would do it for pizza, or actually we could
Speaker 1: trade you help me, I help you paint, Okay, painting day.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to paint twice. I
Speaker 2: would rather ask trying to do it and not have
Speaker 2: to do anything in return.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so nice. Yeah, I love that too. Are
Speaker 1: what are you? Is there anything you're doing this week
Speaker 1: while everyone's at Hancho, Because I feel like everyone goes
Speaker 1: to Hansho. It's like a last year. I feel like
Speaker 1: I experienced this mass exodus and all my friends were gone. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: I actually I have plans this week. I'm going doing
Speaker 2: like a little like cute charcooterie night with some friends,
Speaker 2: getting my bangs trimmed because they're way too long.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see can't death, sex and death that can't
Speaker 1: be as.
Speaker 2: Sex and death that can't miasma. I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is the weekend that my Grandpa's going to be
Speaker 2: on Long Island, but if it is, then I'll go
Speaker 2: out there to see him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2: I have some stuff going on this week. Well, everyone's
Speaker 2: away and I will and even even if I didn't,
Speaker 2: I would be fine. Yeah, but I would miss I'm
Speaker 2: going to miss you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to miss you too, dah. Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: always love.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should find a remix of that for my
Speaker 2: three Doll Invasion sets.
Speaker 1: Yes, so excited. You have different vibes to play with
Speaker 1: and also not a lot of overlap for these audiences,
Speaker 1: so you can certain you can repeat songs. What did
Speaker 1: you think of my set on Saturday? I thought the
Speaker 1: Madonna remixes were fab I thought there was a lot
Speaker 1: of Like I thought there was a lot of kind
Speaker 1: of like pop of a certain era that I really appreciated.
Speaker 1: Like you did a remix of down Hound that I
Speaker 1: saw I thought I thought was so good. There was
Speaker 1: a really wait can you remind me of? Like there
Speaker 1: were a few other standout remixes that were like nostalled.
Speaker 2: They were like either So there was a Donna Lewis
Speaker 2: I Love You Always Forever that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, what's amazing is that the set itself
Speaker 1: did not give nostalgic. It felt extremely contemporary, but like
Speaker 1: nodding to this era of pop in a way that
Speaker 1: was like truly fat Like, yeah, I loved it. But
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a Rosebud. I'm your number one. I'm
Speaker 1: number one Rosebud. I listened to your podcast. It's at
Speaker 1: least three times it's you every day and my mom
Speaker 1: my sisters are my biggest fans. Yes, that's right, baby,
Speaker 1: they wait.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm confronting you on air because I was talking
Speaker 2: to my sisters and they were like, can you make
Speaker 2: Fran follow us better?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'll do it right now. Send me
Speaker 1: the did you say I'm calling you. I'm calling you
Speaker 1: to the red table? Tell me right now what their
Speaker 1: handles are. Okay, and also or just texting to me
Speaker 1: so that we don't put so that we don't dox
Speaker 1: your sisters. Okay, I will text them to you.
Speaker 2: But they were because I believe we had the same
Speaker 2: conversation when you met them last year. Really, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't because you know they're obsessed with you.
Speaker 1: Forgive me. This is my demented brain, a losing track
Speaker 1: of things. I will literally follow them. And if you
Speaker 1: do they listen to the pod, they do, I don't,
Speaker 1: not really, I don't think so they shouldn't they should?
Speaker 1: I think I know friends of theirs listen to the pod.
Speaker 1: Daniel listens to the podcast. I'm like, baby, don't. I'm like, baby, don't,
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 2: Would that's a nightmare if my part if my partner
Speaker 2: listens my.
Speaker 1: Being so embarrassing, you said, I did. Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 1: many people with that name. I know. Yeah, don't go
Speaker 1: stock him please. Yeah. No, i I'm like, why baby,
Speaker 1: why you get? You get? You could hear my voice?
Speaker 2: Well, because the thing is with you, you would anytime
Speaker 2: he wants to hear your voice, you would happily just
Speaker 2: talk to him for six hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly you would. You could, You could podcast live
Speaker 1: with him? Yeah, and I would. I love to chat,
Speaker 1: chut chat chat chat. I mean, that's why we do
Speaker 1: what we do. But this episode is coming to a close, yes,
Speaker 1: which I which I also hate for us, but we Okay,
Speaker 1: you and I do have to record multiple episodes next week,
Speaker 1: Virgins Chat. If you have an idea for a bonus
Speaker 1: episode Virgins, you need to get in The comments are
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Also okay, some some some calls to action before we go. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Now's the time. September twenty second.
Speaker 2: And come to doll Invasion, come to of August.
Speaker 1: Go to dollinvision dot org or go to doll dot
Speaker 1: Invasion on Instagram where you can get all of the
Speaker 1: up to date information. August twenty eight through thirtieth an
Speaker 1: annual fundraiser. There's going to be a lot of Diva's descending.
Speaker 1: Rose is going to tear it up, along with so
Speaker 1: many other DJs. We have DJs from Texas, London, La,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, New York, Baby Philly, Exotic Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: We've got Queen's Giving shows. Lead Miss Kay is gonna
Speaker 2: be there, very excited to meet her, and Kimpetres randomly
Speaker 2: is also.
Speaker 1: Going to be at the Pavilion performing on Friday night. Crazy.
Speaker 2: You know, Ryan thought Ida was Kimpetres on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was fling her that. I was like,
Speaker 1: ITA's so much more beautiful. No shade. I need to
Speaker 1: tell each to that ECHA's on the Doll Invasion team
Speaker 1: and is one of the fundraisers for Dollinvasion and Queer
Speaker 1: Art Art sister organization that we fundraised for. Yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: that's so funny. But Kimpetras is gonna be Let's see
Speaker 1: if we can get Kimpetris to come to Doll Invasion.
Speaker 1: She'll be there anyways.
Speaker 2: And if you if you can't bank it to the event,
Speaker 2: if you don't live in the city or can't travel
Speaker 2: in for it, you can still support the fundraising efforts exactly.
Speaker 1: And you can do that by going to our again
Speaker 1: our website doleinvason dot org and hitting donate, or you
Speaker 1: can venmo us if you want. Doleinvasion is on venmo
Speaker 1: uh again. Would love to see you a Dolenvation slash.
Speaker 1: It's actually required if you're a virgin, So if you
Speaker 1: don't come vision, you're literally not a virgin. You are
Speaker 1: you you've had sex.
Speaker 2: You have to be there. It is the front. The
Speaker 2: last couple of years, it has become now the thing
Speaker 2: that I look forward to at the end of the summer.
Speaker 2: It's so fun, it's very magical, it's my favorite thing,
Speaker 2: in my favorite place with my favorite people.
Speaker 1: It's not optional. Yeah, see you there, see you there legally,
Speaker 1: and we love you and we will talk to you soon. Bye.