WEBVTT - Johnny Jet Talks About His Fear of Flying

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday travel tips with Johnny Jet what's going on on Richdemiro?

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<v Speaker 2>This is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me on the podcast today is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>travels around the world for a living, writes about it,

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<v Speaker 1>talks about it, podcasts about it, speaks about it.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Johnny Jett and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so first off, just tell me about yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>In nineteen ninety five, I started that's when I graduated college,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's when I really started traveling.

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<v Speaker 3>I started mastering travel actually a few years before that.

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<v Speaker 3>While I was in college.

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<v Speaker 4>At dated a girl whose parents lived overseas, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>really my first international trip, and I learned all these

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<v Speaker 4>different tips and tricks.

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<v Speaker 3>She only flew business class.

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<v Speaker 4>I never knew what it was like on the other

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<v Speaker 4>side of that curtain. And let me tell you, once

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<v Speaker 4>you do go on the other side of that curtain,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't ever want to go back to the back.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's why I really started reading, asking questions

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, learning all these different travel hacks because

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't afford it, and I was able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>travel like a rock star on a you know.

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<v Speaker 3>A pauper's budget.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make of the travel situation right now?

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like every day on our news we're always

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how terrible it is to fly, how everything

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<v Speaker 1>just seems to be terrible. But I fly a decent amount,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean I enjoy it. I feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot has changed. Is it as bad or.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I would actually argue that it's never been better.

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<v Speaker 4>So for the people who don't pay attention or take

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<v Speaker 4>the time to do their homework, it's pretty it's terrible,

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<v Speaker 4>without a doubt. They're you know, it's they're cramped, they're

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in the middle seats, they're paying for everything, they're

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<v Speaker 4>getting surprised charges. But if you're a freaking flyer, or

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<v Speaker 4>do your homework or spend a little bit of extra money,

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<v Speaker 4>you're living large. You have Wi Fi on a plane,

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<v Speaker 4>you have entertainment systems, you can have life flat seats,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're sitting in first class, which we've never had

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<v Speaker 4>back then, you're getting much better food. Airports have better food.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's a really good time to travel,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's never been safer.

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<v Speaker 1>Most importantly, and of course, there's a lot of tools

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<v Speaker 1>to book things. So right now it's the holidays, we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about some of that travel. Have we missed

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<v Speaker 1>a boat on the holidays? For booking?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a lot of procrastinators out there, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know what you've did miss is maybe some of

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<v Speaker 4>the good seats or you know, even some really good deals.

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<v Speaker 4>But you could still find a solid deal if you

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<v Speaker 4>just leave a day early or day later. Just don't

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<v Speaker 4>try and leave the Wednesday before Thanksgiving or the Sunday

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<v Speaker 4>after or the Monday morning. Just go Tuesday or Monday

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<v Speaker 4>and come back on Tuesday or Wednesday and or even

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<v Speaker 4>Friday after Thanksgiving, and you'll find really good deals and

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<v Speaker 4>good seats.

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<v Speaker 2>I've in the past on that broke budget.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been known to fly on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you got to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the first sight that Johnny Jet goes

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<v Speaker 1>to when you're looking a book? You know, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>you're just kind of on your first kind of search

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<v Speaker 1>for a flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, where do you go?

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<v Speaker 4>I do have a search tool on my website Johnny

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<v Speaker 4>jet dot com, so I obviously go there, but then

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<v Speaker 4>you know that has Expedia, Kayak, Travelocity, but I also

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<v Speaker 4>go to Google Flights, which it does not have.

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<v Speaker 3>Google Flights is amazing. They're taking over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that? Why are they better?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, just I think they're easier. They just they

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<v Speaker 4>just realize, you know, how to.

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<v Speaker 3>How to simplify things. And what I love about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that you can search however you want to do,

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<v Speaker 4>your airline, your alliance, how much you want to pay,

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<v Speaker 4>which airports you want to stop, and if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to stop, or if you don't want to stop, or

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't even know where you want to go,

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<v Speaker 4>you can just put in your departure airport or airports.

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<v Speaker 4>You can put multiple airports in there and then just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just do a search for the world and

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<v Speaker 4>just zoom in and zoom out on a Google map

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<v Speaker 4>and you can see what is cheap and what's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the little fair carriers in Europe too, you

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<v Speaker 4>want to check them out independently, Ryanair, easy Jet, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure if they're on Google Flights.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't fly them often.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes I feel like for the international flights, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like these whole separate websites that there are specialized in that.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually one website for that international which I use in

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<v Speaker 4>Europe a lot is Momando dot com. So what I

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<v Speaker 4>like about that is if you're in Europe and you're

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<v Speaker 4>going London to Paris, you know it will tell you

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<v Speaker 4>don't fly, take the train. It'll save you a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more time and it'll probably be the same price. And

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<v Speaker 4>because it's only a three hour train ride, and by

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<v Speaker 4>the time you get to the airport, going through security

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<v Speaker 4>delays everything and getting to the city centers because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the train stations are in the city centers, which so

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<v Speaker 4>I like Mamando for that.

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<v Speaker 1>You told me about a website called skip Flagged skiplag

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, So tell me. This one is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>controversial because it helps you uncover some like cheaper flights,

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<v Speaker 1>but you really there's a lot of restrictions and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do it very often.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, is it illegal to use this?

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<v Speaker 3>Illegal?

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<v Speaker 4>But the airlines did to it, United and Orbits actually

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<v Speaker 4>suit them and lost, so they do not like people

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<v Speaker 4>knowing their little loopholes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what's this loophole?

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<v Speaker 4>So in the past you had to just do it manually.

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<v Speaker 4>So I always tell people look at alternate airports. So

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<v Speaker 4>I first learned about hidden city city ticketing. I was

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<v Speaker 4>flying LA to Cleveland, and I was trying to find

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<v Speaker 4>it to get one way deal, you know, six hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's crazy. So then I just started using Ulternate Airport.

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<v Speaker 4>So I looked at Buffalo and I saw that a

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<v Speaker 4>flight was going la Cleveland Buffalo for two thirty. It

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<v Speaker 4>was the same exact flight that was six hundred. So

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<v Speaker 4>what you would do is you would get off in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>You would only buy a one way ticket. It has

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<v Speaker 4>to be one way, otherwise they'd cancel the return and

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<v Speaker 4>you can't check a bag, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>do it often, and you probably don't want to put

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<v Speaker 4>your mileage number in there if you do it often,

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<v Speaker 4>because they will come back and either take away your

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<v Speaker 4>miles or or find you try try.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it like United sent like a letter to

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<v Speaker 1>someone requesting like thousands of dollars for these.

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<v Speaker 4>United is now going after people and the actually I

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<v Speaker 4>some airlines will even meet people at their gate and say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to escort you to the next flight because

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<v Speaker 4>they know they're going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go on that next flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So but anyway, so skip lag.

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<v Speaker 4>What they can do is you can they will tell

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<v Speaker 4>you these little airports and loopholes that do it. So,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I like to use LA to Charlotte because

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<v Speaker 4>only American has that flight. It's normally about five seventy

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<v Speaker 4>one way. But if you put in LA to Richmond

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<v Speaker 4>or LaGuardia, Jacksonville or different, you know, any city on

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<v Speaker 4>the East Coast, it will go through Charlotte and it

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<v Speaker 4>will be half the price, maybe even seventy five percent off.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually we just looked it up a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was five eighty and then if there

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<v Speaker 4>was one.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>And the website, you don't have to know those other cities.

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<v Speaker 1>The skip blag website, they do it for you.

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<v Speaker 2>They do it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, you fly, you get off the plane in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>you stay there and then your flight goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't you can't do this very often.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't do it often, and you gotta buy one way.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to make sure your bag gets on, and

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<v Speaker 4>you have to realize, let's say there is bad weather

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<v Speaker 4>in Charlotte. They could reroute you through Dallas and say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, You're gonna go to Richmond through Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>because there's a bad weather in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you have to be ready. This is this

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<v Speaker 2>is something not for the average flyer.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not you know, realize there are some consequences on there.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what, if you're willing to roll the dice,

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<v Speaker 4>you can save a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you make of the there's a two

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<v Speaker 1>that you showed me on the Kayak website.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like Kayak Explore.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was really cool because it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like Google Flights where you can kind of explore a map.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like what they do is they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>slice and dice the world based on regions, interests, all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of if.

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<v Speaker 4>You're into wineries, if you're into amazing beaches, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>into historical sites, if you're into UNESCO World Heritage sites,

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<v Speaker 4>you can just search by that, and so they have

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<v Speaker 4>something for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>What's fun for you about travel? I mean, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for many years now. To most people, travel

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<v Speaker 1>seems like are To many people, it seems like a grind,

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<v Speaker 1>or some people like it because of the points game.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you like?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm actually thinking I'm addicted to it, and

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<v Speaker 4>I do think people who do travel a lot can

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<v Speaker 4>get addicted addicted. So what I love about it is that,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, I used to be afraid to fly.

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<v Speaker 4>I got over my fear. I was only afraid to fly.

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<v Speaker 4>I was afraid to leave the house at one point.

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<v Speaker 4>So it just blows my mind. When I'm somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh my god, I'm in London, I'm in Thailand.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any of that anymore? I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Even when I'm here in La, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in La and I live here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm wanting to I mean, you get worried at all?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, or you you have you moved past that completely.

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<v Speaker 4>Travel No. Now that I have a two year old,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to leave him. So even like just

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<v Speaker 4>coming down the road now, I'm like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to leave him. I don't want to take

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<v Speaker 4>a chance of getting hit by a car or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I do get that once in a while on these trips.

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<v Speaker 4>But you still have to realize that it's so much

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<v Speaker 4>safer to fly than it is to drive and that.

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<v Speaker 4>And one thing about travel is I just learned how

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<v Speaker 4>to master it it, really, did you know? I have clear,

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<v Speaker 4>I have pre check, I have Global entry. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the big hassles was standing in long lines.

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<v Speaker 4>I have elite status on the airlines I fly, so

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<v Speaker 4>I can skip the long lines. And you know time

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<v Speaker 4>my airport's you know, pretty so I'm not hanging out.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I am hanging out, I have access to

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<v Speaker 4>the lounge. I have certain credit cards that get me

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<v Speaker 4>into lounge access. So I travel is now a joy

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<v Speaker 4>and I just love meeting people. I love seeing the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I love sharing it. And thanks to social media, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a lot I'm able to do that. In my website,

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<v Speaker 4>I can. I get so many emails from people saying,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I can't travel for whatever reason. A lot

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<v Speaker 4>of it is health reasons, but some of it could

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<v Speaker 4>be money.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, I traveled but curiously through you, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's very gratifying.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you get over that fear of flying?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I just asked a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I read all the statistics. It's again.

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<v Speaker 4>One time I landed from London on a British Airways

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<v Speaker 4>flight and the highlight got on and said, the safest

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<v Speaker 4>part of your journeys now over. Be careful on the

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<v Speaker 4>freeways out there, and you read it, and it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so much safer to fly than it is to drive.

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<v Speaker 4>And just read the statistics. Talk to people, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you go on these planes and you're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>flying LA to New York right now, or actually even

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<v Speaker 4>why my flight LA Honolulu, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>it's such a chore. But then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>I realized that the flight attendants are working this flight.

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<v Speaker 4>They only have to work that flight, they have to

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<v Speaker 4>work the flight coming back. They're not even spending a

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<v Speaker 4>night in Honolulu. They just do a turn. Wow, they're

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<v Speaker 4>and we're sitting and relaxing watching movies and they're sitting

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<v Speaker 4>there busting their butts. So you realize that these guys

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<v Speaker 4>do it for a living. They do it multiple times

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<v Speaker 4>a week, and so you've realized, my god, it must

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<v Speaker 4>be safe.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I mean, that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>And you look at different apps flight Radar twenty four,

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<v Speaker 4>you can see, you know, how many planes are in

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<v Speaker 4>the sky right now, like right above us in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's at least four thousand planes in the

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<v Speaker 4>sky right now over the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think people get so caught up on

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<v Speaker 1>that fear of flying because they're not in control.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's one of the things that they can't control.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're you know, if you're driving down a highway,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't feel well, you can just pull over. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're on a plane, you don't feel well, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>pull over. So I think that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's claustrophobic or not, and just not being

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<v Speaker 4>in control. So the best thing to do is to

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<v Speaker 4>try and find a really good deal. Fly business class,

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<v Speaker 4>first class. It will take your trust me, it will

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<v Speaker 4>take your mind away of claustrophobia and things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you only want to get off.

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<v Speaker 1>The plane that first pre flight cocktail will we'll take

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<v Speaker 1>all your worries about that. Will give me some tips

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<v Speaker 1>for just travel in general. I mean, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the lounges and stuff. Now you see that's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. There's people that fly a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they often are insulated from some of these issues that

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<v Speaker 1>the apach person deals with. But the average person's only

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<v Speaker 1>flying once or twice a year, so you can deal

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<v Speaker 1>with a long line through you know, TSA for one

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<v Speaker 1>time a year or two times that you fly.

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<v Speaker 2>But give me some tips just in general, like what

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<v Speaker 2>do I need to know?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, if you have a certain credit card,

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<v Speaker 4>you can actually get TSA pre check for free. And

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<v Speaker 4>what you really want to do is get global entry.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you do travel internationally, when you come back

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<v Speaker 4>home to America, you can just zip through immigration. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to waiting any long lines. And that comes

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<v Speaker 4>with TSA pre check and that's one hundred dollars for

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<v Speaker 4>five years. But certain credit cards like the America's rest

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<v Speaker 4>Platinum Card, Chase Sapphire, they will give it to you

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<v Speaker 4>for free, so you don't have to spending extra money.

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<v Speaker 4>You just have to spend the time on getting registered.

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<v Speaker 4>It takes a few months. You can't do it last minute,

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<v Speaker 4>but that will take away so much of the hassle. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>try not to bring so much stuff a lot of travelers.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, my first time traveling to Europe, I brought

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<v Speaker 4>like a trunk. Now I can do carry on only

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<v Speaker 4>my wife and I would do carry on only around

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<v Speaker 4>the world. Now that we have a son, we actually

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<v Speaker 4>brought the trunk back.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first picture I took of the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I flew with my kid, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe I think we had nine piece of luggage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just ridiculous. But the what about like

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<v Speaker 1>get like what do you pack on the plane?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? I always bring snacks, Always bring.

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<v Speaker 4>Snacks, drinks. I bring an empty bottle of water I

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<v Speaker 4>get through a security, I fill it up with water.

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<v Speaker 3>I went have.

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<v Speaker 4>To depend did excuse me? Be dependent on the flight attendants?

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<v Speaker 4>I also bring them treats. Always bring them treats and

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<v Speaker 4>they'll treat you like a rock star. And just be

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<v Speaker 4>super friendly to them. I mean, as my number one

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<v Speaker 4>travel tip, be super friendly, genuinely friendly to everybody, and

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<v Speaker 4>because they can make or break your trip.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, There you have it, all right? So how

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<v Speaker 2>can people get in touch with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Johnny Jett, Johnny Jet dot com, jh n n y

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<v Speaker 4>j E t one t I'm not related to Joan

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<v Speaker 4>and also on social media Johnny Jet all across.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Johnny, thanks so much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to learn more about Johnny Jett and

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<v Speaker 1>final link to his website, you can go in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes or go.

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<v Speaker 2>To my website. Rich on tech dot TV, thanks so

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<v Speaker 2>much for listening to the show. I'm Rich Tomrow. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you real soon, MHM.