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Speaker 1: Holiday travel tips with Johnny Jet what's going on on Richdemiro?

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Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Joining me on the podcast today is a guy who

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Speaker 1: travels around the world for a living, writes about it,

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Speaker 1: talks about it, podcasts about it, speaks about it.

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Speaker 2: His name is Johnny Jett and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, so first off, just tell me about yourself.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety five, I started that's when I graduated college,

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Speaker 4: and that's when I really started traveling.

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Speaker 3: I started mastering travel actually a few years before that.

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Speaker 3: While I was in college.

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Speaker 4: At dated a girl whose parents lived overseas, and that's

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Speaker 4: really my first international trip, and I learned all these

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Speaker 4: different tips and tricks.

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Speaker 3: She only flew business class.

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Speaker 4: I never knew what it was like on the other

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Speaker 4: side of that curtain. And let me tell you, once

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Speaker 4: you do go on the other side of that curtain,

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Speaker 4: you don't ever want to go back to the back.

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Speaker 4: And so that's why I really started reading, asking questions

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Speaker 4: and you know, learning all these different travel hacks because

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Speaker 4: I couldn't afford it, and I was able to, you know,

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Speaker 4: travel like a rock star on a you know.

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Speaker 3: A pauper's budget.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the travel situation right now?

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Speaker 1: It seems like every day on our news we're always

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Speaker 1: talking about how terrible it is to fly, how everything

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Speaker 1: just seems to be terrible. But I fly a decent amount,

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Speaker 1: and I mean I enjoy it. I feel like a

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Speaker 1: lot has changed. Is it as bad or.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I would actually argue that it's never been better.

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Speaker 4: So for the people who don't pay attention or take

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Speaker 4: the time to do their homework, it's pretty it's terrible,

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Speaker 4: without a doubt. They're you know, it's they're cramped, they're

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Speaker 4: sitting in the middle seats, they're paying for everything, they're

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Speaker 4: getting surprised charges. But if you're a freaking flyer, or

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Speaker 4: do your homework or spend a little bit of extra money,

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Speaker 4: you're living large. You have Wi Fi on a plane,

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Speaker 4: you have entertainment systems, you can have life flat seats,

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Speaker 4: if you're sitting in first class, which we've never had

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Speaker 4: back then, you're getting much better food. Airports have better food.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's a really good time to travel,

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Speaker 4: and it's never been safer.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, and of course, there's a lot of tools

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Speaker 1: to book things. So right now it's the holidays, we

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Speaker 1: can talk about some of that travel. Have we missed

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Speaker 1: a boat on the holidays? For booking?

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of procrastinators out there, but

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Speaker 4: you know what you've did miss is maybe some of

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Speaker 4: the good seats or you know, even some really good deals.

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Speaker 4: But you could still find a solid deal if you

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Speaker 4: just leave a day early or day later. Just don't

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Speaker 4: try and leave the Wednesday before Thanksgiving or the Sunday

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Speaker 4: after or the Monday morning. Just go Tuesday or Monday

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Speaker 4: good seats.

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Speaker 2: I've in the past on that broke budget.

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Speaker 1: I've been known to fly on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: I've done it too.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to do it.

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Speaker 1: So what is the first sight that Johnny Jet goes

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Speaker 1: to when you're looking a book? You know, you're just

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Speaker 1: you're just kind of on your first kind of search

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Speaker 2: Well, where do you go?

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Speaker 4: I do have a search tool on my website Johnny

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Speaker 4: jet dot com, so I obviously go there, but then

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Speaker 4: you know that has Expedia, Kayak, Travelocity, but I also

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Speaker 4: go to Google Flights, which it does not have.

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Speaker 3: Google Flights is amazing. They're taking over the world.

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Speaker 2: Why is that? Why are they better?

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Speaker 4: You know, just I think they're easier. They just they

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Speaker 4: just realize, you know, how to.

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Speaker 3: How to simplify things. And what I love about it.

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Speaker 4: Is that you can search however you want to do,

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Speaker 4: if you don't even know where you want to go,

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Speaker 4: You can put multiple airports in there and then just

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Speaker 4: and you can see what is cheap and what's not.

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Speaker 4: Some of the little fair carriers in Europe too, you

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Speaker 4: want to check them out independently, Ryanair, easy Jet, I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure if they're on Google Flights.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes I feel like for the international flights, there's

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Speaker 1: like these whole separate websites that there are specialized in that.

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Speaker 4: Actually one website for that international which I use in

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Speaker 4: don't fly, take the train. It'll save you a lot

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Speaker 4: more time and it'll probably be the same price. And

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Speaker 4: because it's only a three hour train ride, and by

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Speaker 4: I like Mamando for that.

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Speaker 1: You told me about a website called skip Flagged skiplag

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Speaker 1: dot com, So tell me. This one is kind of

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Speaker 1: controversial because it helps you uncover some like cheaper flights,

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Speaker 1: but you really there's a lot of restrictions and you

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Speaker 1: don't want to do it very often.

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Speaker 2: Well, is it illegal to use this?

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Speaker 3: Illegal?

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Speaker 4: But the airlines did to it, United and Orbits actually

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Speaker 4: suit them and lost, so they do not like people

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what's this loophole?

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Speaker 4: So in the past you had to just do it manually.

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Speaker 4: So I always tell people look at alternate airports. So

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Speaker 4: I first learned about hidden city city ticketing. I was

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Speaker 4: flying LA to Cleveland, and I was trying to find

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Speaker 4: it to get one way deal, you know, six hundred dollars,

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Speaker 4: Like that's crazy. So then I just started using Ulternate Airport.

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Speaker 4: was the same exact flight that was six hundred. So

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Speaker 4: what you would do is you would get off in Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: You would only buy a one way ticket. It has

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Speaker 4: to be one way, otherwise they'd cancel the return and

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Speaker 4: you can't check a bag, and you don't want to

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Speaker 4: your mileage number in there if you do it often,

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Speaker 4: because they will come back and either take away your

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Speaker 1: I saw it like United sent like a letter to

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Speaker 4: United is now going after people and the actually I

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Speaker 4: some airlines will even meet people at their gate and say, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: they know they're going to.

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Speaker 3: Go on that next flight.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So but anyway, so skip lag.

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Speaker 4: What they can do is you can they will tell

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Speaker 4: you these little airports and loopholes that do it. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, I like to use LA to Charlotte because

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Speaker 4: only American has that flight. It's normally about five seventy

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Speaker 4: will be half the price, maybe even seventy five percent off.

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Speaker 4: Actually we just looked it up a little while ago.

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Speaker 2: So that's all.

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Speaker 1: And the website, you don't have to know those other cities.

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Speaker 1: The skip blag website, they do it for you.

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Speaker 2: They do it for you.

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Speaker 1: So again, you fly, you get off the plane in Charlotte,

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Speaker 2: But you can't you can't do this very often.

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Speaker 4: You can't do it often, and you gotta buy one way.

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Speaker 4: You got to make sure your bag gets on, and

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Speaker 4: you have to realize, let's say there is bad weather

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Speaker 4: you know what, You're gonna go to Richmond through Dallas

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Speaker 2: Oh so you have to be ready. This is this

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Speaker 4: It's not you know, realize there are some consequences on there.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, if you're willing to roll the dice,

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Speaker 1: So what do you make of the there's a two

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Speaker 2: This is like Kayak Explore.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was really cool because it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like Google Flights where you can kind of explore a map.

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Speaker 1: What I like what they do is they kind of

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Speaker 1: What's fun for you about travel? I mean, you've been

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Speaker 1: doing it for many years now. To most people, travel

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Speaker 1: seems like are To many people, it seems like a grind,

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Speaker 4: I think I'm actually thinking I'm addicted to it, and

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Speaker 4: I do think people who do travel a lot can

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Speaker 4: first of all, I used to be afraid to fly.

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Speaker 4: I got over my fear. I was only afraid to fly.

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Speaker 4: I was afraid to leave the house at one point.

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Speaker 4: So it just blows my mind. When I'm somewhere else,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, I'm in London, I'm in Thailand.

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Speaker 4: Even when I'm here in La, I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: I'm in La and I live here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, or you you have you moved past that completely.

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Speaker 4: Travel No. Now that I have a two year old,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to leave him. So even like just

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Speaker 4: I do get that once in a while on these trips.

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Speaker 4: But you still have to realize that it's so much

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Speaker 4: safer to fly than it is to drive and that.

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Speaker 4: And one thing about travel is I just learned how

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Speaker 4: to master it it, really, did you know? I have clear,

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Speaker 4: I have pre check, I have Global entry. So you know,

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Speaker 4: one of the big hassles was standing in long lines.

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Speaker 4: my airport's you know, pretty so I'm not hanging out.

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Speaker 4: And if I am hanging out, I have access to

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Speaker 4: and I just love meeting people. I love seeing the world.

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Speaker 3: And they're like, I traveled but curiously through you, and

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Speaker 2: How did you get over that fear of flying?

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Speaker 3: You know what, I just asked a lot of questions.

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Speaker 4: One time I landed from London on a British Airways

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Speaker 4: It's so much safer to fly than it is to drive.

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Speaker 4: And just read the statistics. Talk to people, and you know,

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Speaker 4: They only have to work that flight, they have to

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Speaker 4: work the flight coming back. They're not even spending a

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Speaker 4: and we're sitting and relaxing watching movies and they're sitting

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Speaker 3: That's all I mean, that's what they do.

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Speaker 4: And you look at different apps flight Radar twenty four,

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Speaker 4: I think there's at least four thousand planes in the

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Speaker 1: Why do you think people get so caught up on

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Speaker 4: I think it's one of the things that they can't control.

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Speaker 1: The plane that first pre flight cocktail will we'll take

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Speaker 1: for just travel in general. I mean, I know you

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, if you have a certain credit card,

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Speaker 4: So if you do travel internationally, when you come back

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Speaker 4: with TSA pre check and that's one hundred dollars for

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Speaker 4: five years. But certain credit cards like the America's rest

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Speaker 4: Platinum Card, Chase Sapphire, they will give it to you

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Speaker 4: You just have to spend the time on getting registered.

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Speaker 4: It takes a few months. You can't do it last minute,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe I think we had nine piece of luggage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just ridiculous. But the what about like

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Speaker 2: Like? I always bring snacks, Always bring.

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Speaker 4: Snacks, drinks. I bring an empty bottle of water I

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Speaker 4: get through a security, I fill it up with water.

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Speaker 3: I went have.

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Speaker 4: To depend did excuse me? Be dependent on the flight attendants?

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Speaker 4: I also bring them treats. Always bring them treats and

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Speaker 4: super friendly to them. I mean, as my number one

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Speaker 2: All right, There you have it, all right? So how

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Speaker 4: Johnny Jett, Johnny Jet dot com, jh n n y

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Speaker 4: j E t one t I'm not related to Joan

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Speaker 4: and also on social media Johnny Jet all across.

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Speaker 2: All right, Johnny, thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about Johnny Jett and

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Speaker 1: final link to his website, you can go in the

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Speaker 2: To my website. Rich on tech dot TV, thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for listening to the show. I'm Rich Tomrow. I'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you real soon, MHM.