1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, Swift world, and welcome to the No Dunks 2 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, July sixteenth. I'm 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Jay Skeets and joining us here on zoom task. Mellie, 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Hey Tassy, we got the Bearded one. Trey Kirby, Hey, heyo, 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the international Man of Mystery taking it to the Max 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Lee Ellis friend man last but not least, making the 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: magic happen. 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: JD. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: Hello, there is and here we are. It's time for 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: the updown Report. But before we get into it, let's 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: just quickly address Dayne Wade. Here's the brief backstory if 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: you don't know. On Tuesday, Nick Cannon he lost his 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: job at ViacomCBS for peddling anti semitism on his podcast 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Slash YouTube show whatever it was. On Wednesday, heat legend 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade tweeted support for the entertainer. D Wade tweeted 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: at Nick Cannon quote, we are with you. Keep leading, okay. 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, what the hell's going on here? A few 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: hours later, Wade he deleted his original tweet and then 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: wrote quote I want to clarify my now deleted tweet. 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: I was not supporting or condoning what Nick Cannon specifically said, 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: but I expressed my support of him owning the content 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: and brand he helped create. 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: End quote. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: About an hour later, Wade tweeted again quote, I was 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: too quick to respond without being fully informed about his 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: he's talking about Nick Cannon's hurtful anti Semitic remarks. As 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: you all know, I have zero tolerance for any hate speech. 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: End quote. I don't really have a whole lot to 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: add to this, especially since we last week discussed what 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: happened with Deshaun and Steven Jackson. I sure as hell 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about Nick Cannon, if I'm being 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: completely honest, But we need to say this, we hear it. 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Dunk's wholeheartedly, guys condemn anti Semitism. Okay. As for Wade, 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: you can cast your own judgment over his original tweet 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: and then his apologies. I'm gonna personally choose to believe 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: him that he was basically, in his words, terribly misinformed. 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: That was sort of my working theory when this popped 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: off yesterday on Twitter. I was talking to Nora about it. 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, what Wade's tweeting support for Nick Cannon. My 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: guess I guess I hope that. I think he's supporting 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: the idea of Nick Cannon trying to keep his brand 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: without knowing why he's trying to keep his brand, you 43 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like it felt like Wade saw 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the headline and didn't read the article, so that's what 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: he says. Maybe that's me grasping at strass because Wade 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: is someone that I do admire, someone who's done incredible 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: work in the black community, someone has done incredible work 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: for the LGBTQ community. Maybe that's been me being naive. 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Up to you guys out there, everybody 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: here on the zoom call to make your own call. 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: We're all Joe Borgia on this one. But again, we 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: got to stop with the saying and the amplifying of 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: these of hate speech and anti Semitic conspiracy theories. That's 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: all I got to say. But I want to do 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: again just address this Wade situation, which was very weird yesterday. 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would assume Dwayne Wade was coming out and 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: defending another black artist, a black person who built a 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: brand without knowing what the heck is going on. There's 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: just a lot of ignorance going on. I think this 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: is another case of it. I think it's definitely in 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: the same sort of family as Stephen Jackson, but not 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: even close to what Stephen Jackson did. By doubling down 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: and tripling down and basically casting a whole group of 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: people as undermining society and these conspiracy theories. I mean, 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: that was incredibly wrong. Dayne Wade came out and apologized 66 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: right after, and I think the thing that we can 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: learn from this is that one group obviously should not 68 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: be putting down another group of people. This is supposed 69 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: to be an inclusive time. And the people at the Athletic, 70 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: a group of writers, a group of Jewish writers, wrote 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: about the Stephen Jackson scenario, had a podcast about the 72 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: Stephen Jackson scenario, basically saying just that it's an interesting 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: great it's an interesting conversation. It's something that we have 74 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: to do. And I understand Dwayne Wade getting his dander 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: up understanding that Nick Cannon built something and going on 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: defending him. But at the same time, just like anything 77 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: on the internet, people don't know the whole scenario and 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: are quick to just fire off a tweet, and he 79 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: didn't know why he got fired. I assume I am 80 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: in that same boat that Dwayne Wade would not f 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: around if he knew what the heck was going on. 82 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: But people tweet without knowing what the heck they're saying. 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: At the same time, You're. 84 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Right, test, there is a lot of information out there. 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: It's a lot. I think it's a lot smarter to 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: take the half hour to figure out what you're talking 87 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: about before you blast off a tweet, and you have 88 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: to apologize because it can certainly undermine the work you've 89 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: been doing when you're fire eating For equality, equality means 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: equality for everyone. It doesn't just mean equality for one 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: subset of people. Go to the athletic, read something, listen 92 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: to a podcast, and then get your tweet off. 93 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it was just a poor choice of 94 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: words from Dwayne at the time. He saw Nick Cannon 95 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: gets fired and he's probably just like, you know, he's 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: a black guy who's built a lot. I support him. 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: And then he realized why he got fired and he 98 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: was like, well, hang on a minute, I don't support 99 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: everything that Nick Cannon has done in this case, and 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: I think that's what it is. Dwayne Wade has a 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: proven track record of being not prejudice against any groups, 102 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: And I'm willing to stand in his corner for that 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 4: today and say what he's done for his entire career 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: was not undone by a silly tweet yesterday where he 105 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: quickly tried to correct it and tried to at least, 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: you know, come out and say, listen, I got it wrong. 107 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: I didn't read the article, I didn't find out all 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: the information first. And so he kind of retracted that 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 4: first tweet, because you know, you don't just want to 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: pile on a guy if he actually he understands that 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: he made the wrong decision yesterday and then he tried 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: to correct it. I think again you have to look 113 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: at his entire body of work and particularly what he 114 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: is doing there with his own child to show that 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 4: Dwayne Wade is all about inclusivity. And yesterday he got 116 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 4: it wrong at the start of the day, but I 117 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: think by the end of the day he realized his 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: mistake for the tweet and tried to clarify what he said. 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: So actions speak louder than words. And Dwayne, again, only 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: a couple of days before, showed the shoes that he 121 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: designed for his transgender son, and again that he's been 122 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: on Allen he's talked about how proud he is, how 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: much he's standing behind his own child, and I think 124 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: that again reflects more on Dwayne rather than the poor 125 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: tweet that he sent out yesterday. 126 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, let's get into the up down report. 127 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: Jennie dropping a beat. Let's start with this weird, sort 128 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: of weird Victor Oladipo story. I'll take you through this. 129 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: According to Windy Ryan Windhorst, the Pacers are in an 130 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: unresolved situation regarding three million dollars in salary when it 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: comes to Oladipo. Under the rules the NBA established for 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: its season restart in Orlando, players who were healthy but 133 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: opted not to play would have to forego the remaining 134 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: salary for the season. Two weeks ago. If you guys remember, 135 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I think he told the shams, Oladipo said he was 136 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: healthy but had decided not to play to ensure recovery 137 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: from his quad ten and tear. The players Union believes Oladipo, 138 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: who went to Orlando with the Pacers and then cleared 139 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: quarantine so he could practice, should be paid his remaining salary. 140 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: But the league believes well Vic opted out and so 141 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: he should not be paid and then a day later, 142 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: Oladipo told reporters there's a strong possibility he might even play. 143 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: He's down there, so he might just play little wild 144 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Are you up or down on? Oladipot tasks still pondering 145 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: his return here and maybe even hoody aside with in 146 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: this weird situation, if he were to not play with 147 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: the union or the league itself. 148 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: Well, he's going to get paid, and I'm up on 149 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: him getting paid. He's trying to come back. He got 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: injured on company hours, and he's trying to be his 151 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: best self, whether it's this year or next year. So 152 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: he's he's physically there and he's working out. It's not 153 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: like he's slagging off somewhere, and so I'm up for 154 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: him getting paid, and I'm up for if he decides 155 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: to come on the floor, another all star being on 156 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: the floor. But I don't think he's going to be 157 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: his all star self. He's going to be sort of 158 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: on the same level I would guess as Malcolm Brogden 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: and Demato Sabonis. He's going to be one of the 160 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: five guys with Miles Turner and TJ Warren out there 161 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: that's going to be really, really good. And it's like 162 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: Demata Sabona said on a zoom call to reporters, because 163 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: that's what we're doing right now. He said, he's good 164 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: to have out there. Having him around completes the team 165 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: where a full roster, he's another body we can go out. 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: He's an elite player, so he's just making us better. 167 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: At the same time, it's like it's like five the 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: Pacers are like five of the same guy, and you 169 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: can't just sit on any of them. At this point. 170 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: Brogn's got to be better. Sabona's gotta better because Depo's 171 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: not going to be a super duper All Star. But 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what's changed with him physically, 173 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: but I'm sure he's just trying to work his butt 174 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: off and get back to get back to being out there. 175 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: So I'm good with absolutely everything going on there. 176 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pacers have they've publicly supported Oladipo. I mean, 177 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: they're saying it's his decision to make, and it sounds 178 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: like they're even like we're cool with paying them regardless 179 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: if he plays or not. But you can sort of 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: see where the league is like they're almost I think 181 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: whenhor said this, you almost have to look at it 182 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: as like they may want to set a precedent right 183 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: here if if you're cleared to play and you don't, 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: should you still be paid, because otherwise the league might 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: look at guys that are down there, who are deemed healthy, 186 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: who hell might even play, and then are like, Eh, 187 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: I us don't want to play anymore, but you know, 188 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm still going to catch those checks, and that could 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: be a problem. I don't know, is Oladipo. The reason 190 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: this is an issue is to be made an example of, like, hey, man, 191 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: if you're healthy and you said you were healthy and 192 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: you don't play, then you're not going to get paid. Trey, 193 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: what do you think. 194 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent with you. You know, the Pacers 195 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: are saying we're paying him either way. This is about 196 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: everybody else that's not Victor Oladipo, because if the league 197 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: comes out and they guarantee pay for all players, which 198 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: they should do since these guys have contracts, it then 199 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: puts the onus on the players to play for the 200 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: love of the game. So now the players are the 201 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: ones who can look like the bad guys by saying 202 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm healthy, I just don't want to get hurt. But 203 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: as for Oladipo, you know he's in Orlando, he's risking 204 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: the virus, so to me, he should one hundred percent 205 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: be paid. 206 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: The only difference is that if he decides to sit 207 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 5: out of. 208 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 2: Games, he's not gonna be risking injury that you know 209 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: ad Jason Tatum or a darn. 210 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: Fox would be doing. 211 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: Hopefully though in those cases, you know, like the Celtics 212 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: or the Kings, they would do the same thing that 213 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: the Pacers are doing, saying it's your choice. Man, we 214 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: got your back no matter what. If you want to play, 215 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna pay you. If you want to sit and 216 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: you want to be healthy, we're gonna pay you because 217 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: we want you to be healthy in the future as well. 218 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: Really yeah, I mean, it's just interesting that this is 219 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: even a story. If the paces is saying we're gonna 220 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: pay him no matter what, it's sort of like I 221 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 4: think it could be you almost just brushed aside because 222 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: if they're saying, well, we're going to pay him, we 223 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: respect whatever decision he makes, then I don't think there's 224 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: any need to sort of start squabbling over it when 225 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: it's three million dollars. I mean, he's an All star. 226 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: That's what lawyers do, Lee this man. 227 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: They always get paid no matter what you know. But 228 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: that's the sort of interesting part if if the pace's 229 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 4: ownership is saying, Drew, excuse me, Victor, it's up to 230 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: you if you want to, if you feel healthy and 231 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: you're ready to go, go for it. If you want 232 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: to set it out, it's fine by us. We don't 233 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: hold that against you to show that that we have 234 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 4: no hard feelings. We're going to pay you your full salary, 235 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: so you make the right decision. And what else is 236 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: interesting is Nate McMillan is saying, we're assuming he won't 237 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: be playing, so whatever conversations they've had in the last 238 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: few days, Nate's later stance on it is like, I 239 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 4: don't think he's going to play. So it's it's a 240 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 4: bit of a weird one, but it sort of has 241 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: a bit of a feel that all the deeper I 242 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: was like, I don't think I'm ready to go. And 243 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 4: then he was like someone said, well, you're not going 244 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: to get paid, and he's like, well, okay, maybe I am. 245 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: Maybe I am Okay. Then you know that's what it 246 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: sounds like. 247 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: So he was always going down there. He was always 248 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: going down there, even when he said. 249 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: Oh, I know, and he said he was gonna he 250 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 4: was gonna work out with the team to get sort of, 251 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: you know, keep himself in some sort of shape. Sary. 252 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm understanding its dominating the practices, right Like, maybe 253 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: he's down there, he's thinking, I'm just gonna be getting 254 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: some work in so that I can be ready to 255 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: go for twenty twenty one. And maybe he's the best 256 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: player on the court. Maybe I should be stepping on 257 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: for the Pacers. 258 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the league wanting to set an example 259 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 3: as well. I mean, I think this is a it's 260 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: a very unique situation. But yeah, they're looking at the 261 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: other twenty one teams and they say, whoa, Devin Booker, 262 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: You're gonna play till July thirty. First, you guys, lose 263 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: your first game and you're just gonna bow out and 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: you're still going to get my full salary. You know, 265 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: I think this is all in good faith. As Trey said, 266 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: these guys are going down there and risking potentially having 267 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: getting the coronavirus, and so is Victor Oladipo. And you know, I, 268 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe I'm being naive but I don't 269 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: see other guys getting out there, running up and down 270 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: for three weeks and then saying I've had enough. I mean, 271 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: I think they're going to go through their regular season 272 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: schedule and the guys are gonna sit at times because 273 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: the eight regular season games are not going to be 274 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: treated like playoff games, that's for sure. But I don't 275 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: see you guys just bowing out and saying digging this 276 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: check in running home. I don't think that they are. 277 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 3: They are at danger, you know, it's it's it is 278 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: definitely safe in there to this point. But at the 279 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: same time, I don't know I have faith that they're 280 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: they're in good faith, they're playing under good conditions there. 281 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, couldn't the Pacers and Oladibo just be like, all right, 282 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: we'll put you in for thirty seconds again, be obviously 283 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: a work around. You played, Yeah, we played in a minute. 284 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: We put him in ten seconds. 285 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're gonna pay him even if he doesn't play. 286 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: I know I'm saying to appease the league. I mean 287 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: that I'm sure would upset them even more. I get it. 288 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, look, I understand when the league's probably worry 289 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: is they're like, uh, oh uh oh, if we do 290 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: this with him, that could lead to more guys doing this, 291 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Like why not? Why couldn't that be the case? You 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: just hope it would it? Like you guys are saying, yeah. 293 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: I can't wait Tahi in the playoffs though, like he 294 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: is a decoy no matter what, even if he's not 295 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: Ola depot, he is at least. 296 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna play then? 297 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, But the he knows? 298 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Who knows? It sounds right now that he's leaning towards 299 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: the possibility, and as Trey said, maybe he's like surprised 300 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: himself with how he feels and how he's playing down there. 301 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Who knows? 302 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: Who knows? 303 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: All right, Next one good news. NBA players now have 304 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: the freedom to wear their own clothes when walking from 305 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: the team bus into the facilities at Orlando. Initially, the 306 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: NBA said that it would require players to get dress 307 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: for games in their hotel rooms, stating that the players 308 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: must be in uniform and warm ups when they arrived 309 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: to the venue. Of course, if that happened, while we 310 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have these great basically fashion shoots that we always see, 311 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: what shoes are they rocking? What is Kelly U? Brady 312 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Junior wearing you know, stuff like that. But the NBA 313 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: has decided to revise its poul say, or at least 314 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: clarify that that was incorrect when that first report broke up, 315 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: up or down on the league deciding to all how 316 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: these players to wear their own wardrobes to games? Lee, 317 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: What do you think? 318 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: When I started reading this article from Nick de Paula, 319 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: I started up because it says players can wear a 320 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: variety of relaxed items from their own wardrobes upon arrival 321 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: that are clean and neat in appearance, including presentable shorts. 322 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: So I'm like, great, I'm up yep, But that paragraph 323 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: ends with this, however, players not in uniform games must 324 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: be wearing pants while seated on the bench. So I'm down. 325 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: Are you telling me you can wear shorts to the 326 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: arena but then you're going to change into pants to 327 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 4: go out and watch the game? 328 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're not playing, Yes, no way. 329 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: Man. 330 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: Do you know how hard it is to be in 331 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: shorts and then put on pants when it's a beautiful 332 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: hot day down there in Orlando? 333 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: Like those pants that you can zip them lags off, 334 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: And that's actually not that much of a problem. 335 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: We just like thirty seconds. 336 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: But they're not need and presentable those pants. I think 337 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: if you're wearing shorts and you're looking great and you're 338 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: coming in off the bus and then someone says he 339 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 4: you got to whack your decks on and go and 340 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: sit on the bench, You're like, no, man, I'm in 341 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 4: shorts today. I'm wearing shorts today. I've got my cool 342 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: shoes as well. It matches the whole outfit. So I 343 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: just can't believe you're going to make people wear pants 344 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: on the bench. 345 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: What's the difference. 346 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: If you're wearing neat and presentable shorts to the arena, 347 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: they're still neat and presentable when you're sitting on the 348 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: bench outraged by this big time down, do you. 349 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: Think you have more presentable shorts or non presentable shorts? 350 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: Well, that probably is open for debate a lot of 351 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: I do have a lot of basketball shorts because they 352 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: are absolutely the most comfortable shorts to wear. Now, I 353 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: accept that they're not necessarily neat and presentable to be 354 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: wearing on the bench, But again, if I'm not playing, 355 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: I'm in Orlando, you know I'm wearing shorts and they're 356 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: neat and presentable. The ones I wore at Vegasummer League. 357 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: They were never scruffy. They were always neat and presentable. 358 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: And I say, everybody was wearing niche shorts, but we were. 359 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 5: We were sitting. 360 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: We were sitting courtside a couple of times in Vegas, 361 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: and no one came up and said, oh, guys, whoa 362 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: the sh it's no thanks and put on a pair 363 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: of decks. 364 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: Everyone was just like, yeah, it's fun, we have great 365 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: playing in the game. We were playing in as yet. 366 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: But the point being that the ship. No one was like, hey, 367 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: you guys are quotes the TV cameras that here we 368 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 4: want need and presentable shorts. They are They're not. They're 369 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 4: not like the scruffey shorts. So yeah, very disappointed. I 370 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 4: hope the NBA changes course on this too. 371 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're, yeah, you're up on them being allowed 372 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: to wear whatever they want to the game, but then 373 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: if you're not playing, you gotta wear pants. Are down 374 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: on that tray? 375 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: What do you think time down? 376 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I'm trending up, but I'm still 377 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: like plateauing here because there should be absolutely zero restrictions 378 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: for what these guys are wearing. Show up in a 379 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: sleeveless shirt, show us in some short shorts. Who cares. 380 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: We're happy to have basketball on TV. Literally, nobody who 381 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: is watching this is going to care what players on 382 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: the bench are wearing. I do like though, that the 383 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: players are still allowed to dress in full uniforms if 384 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: they want to. 385 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 5: Good news. 386 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: If Jason Terry happens to get picked up, you know 387 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: a lot of older players are getting picked up. That 388 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: guy likes to sleep in his uniform. Maybe he will 389 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: never change. The worst part the part you have to 390 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: be down on. No post game showers. Forty minutes after 391 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: the game. The players are going to be leaving from 392 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: from the game, from the game arena to their to 393 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: their hotels. That's forty minutes of not being able to shower. 394 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: You're not gonna want to put on a pair of 395 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: pants after that kind of game. Maybe if they're tearaways, 396 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: it's fine, But uh, I don't know. Why do you 397 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: care at all? If we're seeing people's knees. 398 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think you're gonna see knees either. 399 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: Because the players who aren't playing aren't going to be 400 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: on the front row of the bench either, right, They 401 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: are going to be in the second third row, and 402 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: so you're not seeing you're not seeing legs. I don't think. 403 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't think you're even going to know unless you've 404 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: got the tunnel angle seeing them walk out. I don't 405 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: think during the games you're gonna be able to see 406 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: knee down or even like chest down for that matter. 407 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: So strange one. And I think postgame, as trade is 408 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: talking about, I guess guys. As as Nick Depaula wrote, 409 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: players may now prefer to switch out of their sweaty 410 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: uniforms into quote appropriate team identified apparel to head back 411 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: onto the bus while carrying their pregame outfits in a 412 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: duffel bag. 413 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: That's kind of like you in the mornings before the show. 414 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: Isn't a task? You go for your workout and then 415 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: you come straight in and record the pod? Like, how 416 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: does it feel not going for a shower first? 417 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't change. I also don't change. I'm 418 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: just sweaty as a mofa. 419 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: That's on YI, that's on hygienic though, task because I 420 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: do that after runs too. I'll just sit out on 421 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: the front porch, you know, I'll have some water, look 422 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: at my phone after a long run where I'm sweating, 423 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: but Nora is always yelling at me. She's like, you 424 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: should be showering right away. I mean, she's right, she's right, 425 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: she's right. I feel for these guys. 426 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: That's why that itch is happening. 427 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: That's notoil with poison. 428 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: I view by stock in gold bond medicated powder changing. 429 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 5: On the rise. 430 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I can't wait for my hawthorn read a 431 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: little bit later. But I do like postgame, I get it, 432 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: guys are sweaty. Don't want them changing. I guess that 433 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: increases yeah, uh, you know, interactions with people, and but 434 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: for for for the pregame, I like, I may be naive. 435 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: I don't know the exactly how the virus is going 436 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: to be contracted. With guys changing in the locker rooms. 437 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: I think I think it's fine. I don't think it 438 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: increases the possibility of it being contracted, and I think 439 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: it's just a little bit of normalcy for players. I'm 440 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: not feeling sorry for the players, but it's like, I mean, 441 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: even when you traveled from high school to high school 442 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: playing basketball, you didn't go in you're jumping in your 443 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: your your warm ups, you had something else on, right, 444 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: Like this is I think this is just sort of 445 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: normal for dudes, and it's already abnormal being down there. 446 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: And I think, I think this is good. I think 447 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: you're gonna see increased play because guys can dress as 448 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: they want pregame. 449 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: I actually think, tass, maybe it has less to do 450 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: with like the risk of transmitting or passing the virus 451 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: back and forth in the locker room or in the 452 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: shower or whatever, And maybe it's actually like, we need 453 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: to get these guys out of this law locker room 454 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: so we can clean this locker room so then more 455 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: people can come into the locker room and play another game. 456 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: Like there are I assume there are not at these 457 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: arenas a lot of locker rooms, right like there there 458 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: may only be two for all I know, and we 459 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: know that there's going to be like all of these 460 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: games going throughout the day. Maybe it's like just a 461 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: pure like we got to get them the hell out 462 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: of here, and some of these guys take forever to 463 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: shower and get dressed and all that. Just get them 464 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: back to their hotel room. 465 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure, spending four months together just change behind the bleachers. 466 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. 467 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: It would be funny though, if they just said, right, 468 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: everyone has to turn up in uniform and that's it. 469 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: You got to study. Yeah, like when your kids playing 470 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: in like in the summer league, like you would just 471 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: turn up in uniform because it was so hot. It 472 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: was like all right, yeah cool. Just imagine le Brun 473 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 4: walking in just in the full like is gear. I'm ready, 474 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 4: I'm ready. 475 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: You know how furious a guy like PJ. Tucker would 476 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: be if they didn't reverse course on this. He brought 477 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: like something like ninety one pairs of shoes. I mean 478 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to like show them off at all. 479 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: How many like how many suitcases does it take? Did 480 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: bring ninety one pairs of shoes? Orduffel bags or whatever? 481 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Like that's all. 482 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: I like the detail that he was getting ready to 483 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: leave the He's like, oh, I just can't leave these 484 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: twenty four pairs gotta grab him. 485 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 5: He just got a pair, like a bag full of 486 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 5: twenty four. 487 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: Shoes ready to go, just in case he needs And 488 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, when you're going to the hospital 489 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: to have a baby, you're supposed to have a go 490 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: bag ready, But for PJ. Tucker, it's a shoe baby 491 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: as suppose, Yeah, a tuffle. 492 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: Bag and he set up an eighty five inch TV 493 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: in his hotel room. 494 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: As was smart, smart guy. He plans on the rockets 495 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: being there for a long time. I think. All right, 496 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: so we are, we are generally up on that. But yeah, 497 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: come on, you should be able to wear shorts. We're saying, 498 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: even if you're not playing in the game and you're 499 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: just on the bench, second third row, who cares, Let's 500 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: see some legs. Come on live a little all right? 501 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: Next one here? Oh my god. Stan Van Gundy now 502 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: on Twitter. The former NBA coach. He told Josh Robbins 503 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: of The Athletic Did he joined last week to support 504 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: specific political candidates and to advocate for social justice. My man, 505 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: this dude is making up for lost time. In his 506 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: first week, Van Gundy has tweeted about three hundred times, 507 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: already has forty thousand plus followers. He's cranking it out 508 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: at real stan vg up or down, Trey, why don't 509 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: you get it started? Up er down? On Stan Van 510 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: Gundy joining Twitter. 511 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm up on this because I was a little 512 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: bit off of social media over the weekend. You know, 513 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of stuff, being a little 514 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: bit more busy, getting away from the phone, and I 515 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: saw this kind of like popping up in our slack 516 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: channels and in our documents, like, oh, what's up with 517 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: stan Van. 518 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 5: Gundy on Twitter? 519 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: So I went over and I couldn't believe this man's advocacy. 520 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: I never thought that I would be getting podcast recommendations 521 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: on Twitter from stan Van Gundy. But the guy is 522 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: recommending the Justice in America podcast. Can't wait to listen 523 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: to it. The only thing I'm down on. We got 524 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: to get him verified. Even his Twitter profile picture is 525 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: him holding up a paper that says real stan Veg. 526 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: You know, we're a week in and he still doesn't 527 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: have the blue check mark. I guess that's good for 528 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: last night. He wouldn't been to get these tweets off, 529 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe they're waiting for him to 530 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: show his basketball handles skills to really know it's. 531 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 5: Him before they bequeath the check mark. 532 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, as soon as I actually scroll through Spg's feed, 533 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: I was one hundred percent and on follow. 534 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 4: I think he's in the honeymoon period of Twitter right 535 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: now too, where he's just like, you know what, this 536 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: is what I'm saying, These are my opinions. I don't 537 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: care what anyone says. Just wait un till he starts 538 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: getting the blowback, especially from all the right wingers, because 539 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 4: he's clearly out there as a liberal and as left 540 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: supporting all those candidates. Stand it's just a matter of time. 541 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: So someone gets hold of him and all of a 542 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 4: sudden his feed is just negative and people coming at him. 543 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he may care, Yeah I care. 544 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 4: I hope not, because he's great and I like his 545 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: honesty and I like his openness there, like the stan 546 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: Van was always great in scrums. Like, he's a very 547 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 4: clever guy. He's very sarcastic and he's funny, and I 548 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 4: think it's really coming through and his tweets too. He's great. 549 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: He's great to it. So now we need to see 550 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: him on Instagram, and then we need him to really 551 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: get on TikTok. If I say a stand band TikTok, no, 552 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 4: I'm going to lose it. 553 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: No, please don't do that. 554 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that won't. 555 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 556 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his uh, his wife is the one 557 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: who got him on Twitter. His wife and his and 558 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: his son. I heard him on Tampering with Sam Ammick 559 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: and he was on a call actually regarding people being 560 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: elected state attorney's district attorneys that he wanted to get 561 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: elected for criminal justice reform, and they were talking about 562 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 3: their strategies, how do we get these people elected in Florida, 563 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: et cetera. And they just kept talking about social media. 564 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: So he called his wife and he said, should I 565 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: get on social media? Do I need to get on Twitter? 566 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: And she said yes, stand and so his son set 567 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: him up and and he was talking about what Lee 568 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: was saying there that you know, the notifications tab uh 569 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to get into fights. I think his 570 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: wife or his son put a little bit of tape 571 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: over the piece of the part of the phone where 572 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: the notifications tab is, so he never presses it, so 573 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: he never reads anything from anybody that says any thing 574 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: that's anti left. But I love it because, listen, we 575 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: share similar views. It's always good to follow accounts I 576 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 3: agree with and pretend the other side doesn't matter. That's 577 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: always good for conversation. That's always good for keeping things open. 578 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: Spg's great, and he's he's in the Orlando area. He's 579 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: forty five minutes away from the arena, but like the 580 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: Orlando Magic when he goes and works for Turner and 581 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: NBA TV. He's going to go right in the bubble. 582 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: He can't just drive in and out. But no complaints 583 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: from stand Van. Stand Fan doesn't complain. He's going to 584 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: be in there, as he told Sam Amic and just 585 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: like everybody else. So can't wait for Standvan on the 586 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: broadcast as well. 587 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I didn't know that little part that he's 588 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: going to be in there, stan Van Gundy in the bubble. 589 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: That a reality show for sure. What's the hell out 590 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: of that one? Oh yeah, yeah, we're up on stand Van, 591 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: he's on Twitter. It's great. Next one here. We sprinkled 592 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: this this next news. We've talked about it like a 593 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: little bit with like again, sprinkled it in over the 594 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: last couple of shows. But let's get some official thumbs 595 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: on it here. Sixers are moving Ben Simmons from his 596 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: usual point guard spot to the power forward position. They 597 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: haven't practiced, at least it appears that they're going to 598 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: be doing this when we actually restart the season in 599 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: two weeks time. Guys, Yeah, we're gonna basketball two weeks 600 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: from today. Shake Milton will start at the point guard spot. 601 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: So officially, are you up or down on the Sixers? 602 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: Moving Ben Simmons to the power forward position task. 603 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: What do you think I'm up? Baby? Okay, can times 604 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: be any weirder than right now? Well, they're gonna get weirder. 605 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: Ben Simmons is going to shoot jumpers. I can feel it. 606 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: He talked about the pick and roll and the pick 607 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: and pop. You know, he doesn't shoot anything outside the 608 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: paint usually usually if it is, he gets into the body, spins, fades, 609 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: and his body's outside the paint. And probably we're probably 610 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: going to see some of that. I think it's just 611 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: gonna be weird town down there, and that includes Ben Simmons, 612 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 3: not just driving, although we'll see a lot of that. 613 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: But I think we're gonna see a little slight uptick 614 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: and Ben Simmons and the confidence and the jumper. I 615 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: just feel like it's bizarro world and Ben is going 616 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: to be part of that and it's not He's going 617 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: to be this going to add this little little part 618 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: to his game. I'm not saying hes shooting threes, I'm 619 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: not dumb, but I can see. 620 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: He was draining them from all over the place. Did 621 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 4: he keep two? 622 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? He did. He hit went from half well yeah, 623 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: earlier this year, yeah, yeah, and he hit went from 624 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: half court in practice the other day. Of course he's 625 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: going to start shooting them from there too. 626 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: Benny Buckets, Trey, what do you think about the Simmons 627 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: going to the power forward position? 628 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: What's the deal with Brett Brown caring so much about 629 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: labeling Ben Simmons position. We're acting like we've never seen 630 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: this before, Ben Simmons playing power forward. Watched their playoff 631 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: games from last year. He was playing power forward. They 632 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: just had Jimmy Butler around. Now it's going to be 633 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: Shake Milton in the starting lineup, basically because Shake Milton 634 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: is a better dribbler and passer than anybody else besides 635 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons on the sixers, right like Josh Richardson not 636 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: getting it done as a playmaker. Tobias Harris, same thing. 637 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: The only thing this really does is it answers the 638 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: Al Horford question. Horford, Simmons and Embiid. We found out 639 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: you can't play three of them at the same time. 640 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. So they're getting some more 641 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: play making in the starting lineup. They're making it so 642 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: that only two of Embiid, Simmons and Horford are on 643 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: the court at the same time, and that was a 644 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: question going back into the bubble because Al Horford had 645 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: gone to the bench, but then when some injuries happened, 646 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: he came back into the starting lineup. They've been in 647 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: and out, in and out. We didn't know exactly what 648 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: it's gonna look like. Now we sort of do. But like, 649 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: who cares Brett Brown? If Ben Simmons is a point 650 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: guard or a power forward, let him have the ball, 651 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: let him let him not have the ball. And when 652 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't have the ball, it makes more sense to 653 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: involve him as a screener or somebody who's in the 654 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: post rather than just standing in the corner where nobody's 655 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: gonna guard him. 656 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I sort of agree with that too. I 657 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: mean a lot of the talk, and rightfully so is like, oh, 658 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: the purpose is to get more out of Ben Simmons, 659 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: maybe his skill set. But I actually think this might 660 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: be addressing the Al Horford situation. Like you said, Trey, 661 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: it's like that's what this is really doing. Yeah, you 662 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: get Shake Milton there to run your offense and the 663 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: guy that can shoot, which you always want to surround, 664 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Joel Embid and even Ben Simmons for 665 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: that matter and just get out Horford out the starting 666 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: lineup because it didn't really work all that well. It 667 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: was clunky with Embiid and Horford starting together. So that's 668 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: what it really does. This like jockeying of positions because 669 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter what you slap on Ben's I mean, 670 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: he's a player, he's good. He has his deficiencies, sure, 671 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: yeah shoot him. He's not great at that. Maybe he'll 672 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: get better, maybe he won't, but he's still an All Star. 673 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: He's awesome. So yeah, I think it's actually more about 674 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: Horford in a weird way than I do about Simmons. 675 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: But what do you think, Lee, Yeah, I mean Brett 676 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: Brown has to figure out a way to get that 677 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 4: offense just uncongested because that's the problem. Like, defensively, they're 678 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: incredible team Philadelphia. They've got bodies every day, they've got 679 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: long arms, they can contest shots and they grab rebounds. 680 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: But on the offensive end, you look at it sometimes 681 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: and you're like, there's no movement guy. There's too many 682 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: guys sort of down in the post, you know, and 683 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: Bead and Simmons are sort of all over each other. 684 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: So they need to figure out a way just to 685 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 4: create a little bit more opening and a bit more flow. 686 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: And maybe if Simmons is not necessarily in control of 687 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: the ball, if he's screening then rolling to the rim 688 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: and b then doesn't have to be down there as much. 689 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: Maybe that will open things up. Because if this Philadelphia 690 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: offense can get going and get humming to its capabilities, 691 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: then the Sixers I think, really do vault themselves up 692 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 4: into the conversations as a possible team to come out 693 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: of the East. But from what we've seen so far 694 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: from them this season, it's just you just sort of 695 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 4: don't feel that they've got the ability to knock off 696 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: you know, Milwaukee, Boston, Toronto, maybe because it just looks 697 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 4: at their offense just looks so so muddled and just 698 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 4: so confusing. So I think Brett Brown's just trying to 699 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: figure out a way to unlock it a little bit. 700 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: We will see see if it works. Brett Brown, why 701 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: not try it? I mean, we don't know if he'll 702 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: be able to If the Sixers flame out in the 703 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: first round in this weird bubble environment, does he still 704 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: keep his job? I think we we were saying before 705 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: the season shut down, if they were to get to 706 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs in a normal season, of course, and they 707 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: flamed out early, he probably would have been gone. I think, yeah, 708 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: we were debating that now. I don't know if that 709 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: changes that, you know, that equation or not because of 710 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: the bubble. But he's going to try things here and 711 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: he absolutely should, and I think I actually think this 712 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, especially with what you're getting 713 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: from Shake Milton. They like that and again moving Horfard 714 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: to the bench. I think it's it's a smart move, 715 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: all right. Next one, this one is hilarious. A video 716 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: of a chef cutting seemingly realistic objects, only to reveal 717 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: that they are in fact cakes. It went viral this week. 718 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: I hope you guys saw the vid. It's got like 719 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: thirty million views. This one video I saw features various objects, crocs, 720 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: toilet paper, potted plants, bananas, a pizza, so much more. 721 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: It's a long video, It's like four minutes long. There's 722 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: a lot of objects that are fact cake. So are 723 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: you up and down on this phenomenon? Cakes that look 724 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: like real things? Lee, what do you think? 725 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: I'm up on the creativity of it for sure, because 726 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: that video is just amazing. You look at it and 727 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: they look so real. I think there's a cheeseburger in 728 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: there as well. Sure, and you're like, I mean, what's 729 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: he thinking? This person? You know, when they're creating this 730 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: stuff to like, I want to just fool everybody. Here's 731 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 4: a cat, here's a cheeseburger. But no, it's actually okay, 732 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: just look how crazy this is. Some of them are incredible. 733 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: Like the pizza is like it's got all the toppings 734 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: on it and everything, But why you make a croc 735 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 4: into a cake? That's the part that I'm like, Crooks. 736 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: You lost me at Crocs. 737 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Everything else is so you're fine when he's making a 738 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: cake out of other food but not an object? Is 739 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: that right? 740 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: Like at least then you sort of can understand you're 741 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 4: going to eat it. You go, oh, I thought it 742 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: was pizza, Now it's Cakekay, Well that's fine, I planned 743 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: on eating it, But a crock or a toilet a 744 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: toilet roll? The toilet roll, like what is that? The 745 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 4: bananas in there as well? He had like a whole 746 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: like roasted vegetables, chopping board and everything as well. Like 747 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: the detail is just unbelievable. It's just super super weird. 748 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 5: You up on it. 749 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's crazy. But it's like a 750 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: bar of soap. Who wants to go? I want to 751 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: eat a bar of soap. 752 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: That one looks amazing. That one is wild. Norah sent 753 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: me another video. She's like, have you seen the chicken one? 754 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, what are you talking about? The chicken 755 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: wasn't in this one. I'll send it to you guys 756 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: after we've done this. It's it's really gross because it's 757 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: raw chicken like they've made like you know, like you 758 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: go to a Publix and you buy chicken breasts, right, 759 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: raw chicken breast that you would cook with the you know, 760 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: the the uh saran wrap over the top or whatever. 761 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: It looks like that. So the pieces the chicken cutlets 762 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: are cake. 763 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, which but it's so weird. 764 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh it's really weird that one. But Tray, what do 765 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: you think of this phenomenon, this viral video? 766 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: Don't copy me on that email. I don't need to 767 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: see it. I don't need to don't like it. You see, 768 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: if you see one cake that is an object, you've 769 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: seen them all because guess what, no matter what they 770 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: cut into when they say it's a cake, it's a 771 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: cake on the inside. I don't want to eat any 772 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: of these. Fonda is probably the most disgusting thing you 773 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: can put on a cake. These are all made of 774 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: fond and I can't imagine watching four minutes of people 775 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 2: cutting into cake. It's not even fun. When you're watching, 776 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: you know, like forty seconds of somebody cutting into a 777 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: cake at a wedding, You're like, all right, smash it 778 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: into each other's faces and let's move on to the dancing. 779 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: How in the world do thirty million people have the 780 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: patience to watch four minutes of cutting in the cake? 781 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: No thanks, tesh. 782 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: They probably tuned out after thirty seconds straight, but they 783 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 3: still got that hit. Listen. I just I love cake, 784 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: and I understand what Trey's saying about fond dot. But 785 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 3: at the same time, you can just peel that back 786 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: and go for the cake. It peels off very easily. 787 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: But it's, uh, it's weird, obviously. I'm just I'm way 788 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: up on cake, so it's hard to go down. I 789 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: just love a good cake. That being said, I love 790 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 3: fresh cake. There is absolutely nothing like a fresh cake. 791 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 3: And cake that takes a lot of work on the outside. 792 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 3: It's less likely to be fresh on the inside. You 793 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: gotta bake the cake and then you work on the outside, 794 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: so that takes time. But you know there's in theory. 795 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: You put a butter cream on the outside and that 796 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 3: sort of seals the freshness while you do the work 797 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: on the outside, so that but it's still it's not fresh. 798 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: And there's absolutely nothing like a fresh cake. So the 799 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: creativity love it the cake. 800 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: Eh eh, I want a fresh one, all right, Jad, 801 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: What do you think about this? Real objects that are 802 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: fat cake? Everything might be cake? Is the is the 803 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: worry here? 804 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: Right? 805 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 6: Yeah? 806 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm I was into it. I like art like anyone, 807 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 7: and I like cake. But I just did a search 808 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 7: for gross cakes. 809 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what do you got? You got dogs, I 810 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: got and stuff. 811 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 6: I got a kitty litter box. 812 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 7: I got a very erect penis. I've got three musketeers 813 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 7: with maggots coming out of it. I've got an ash 814 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 7: tray with a pat like a completely full ash tray 815 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 7: with a pack of cigarettes next to it. 816 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 6: Amazing, that's gross, but it looks very cool. But I'm 817 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 6: not eating that. I'm down. 818 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I was going to ask you, I mean, Lee, 819 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: you're sort of up on this, Uh, what object would 820 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: you ask the No Dunk's crew to, you know, commission 821 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: for you. What real object can we make a cake 822 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: for you? You know? I'm sure to ask his wife, Daniel. 823 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: She's a fantastic biger. Maybe she can pull this off. 824 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 4: What do you want? 825 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: What object? 826 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: A basketball? Why not? 827 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: Oh god? 828 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 4: But it reminds me of the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode 829 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: with the penis cake. The funk houses get remember, and 830 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 4: then and then Larry goes in and orders the cake 831 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 4: and the guy brings him out the penis cake, and 832 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 4: you care the funk man he gave us a penis 833 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 4: cake on purpose. Go and check it out. It's great. 834 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 8: I got a lot of videos to share with each 835 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 8: other after this podcast. Okay, let's hear from you guys 836 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 8: out there and tweet at us at No Dunk Sink 837 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 8: up or down on cakes that look like real objects, 838 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 8: just like you. 839 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: Trey Norah big time down on this. She hates this. 840 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: She's like, this is gross. These cakes first off, probably 841 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: don't taste all that good. And I hate this phenomenon. 842 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: So you're not alone for sure. 843 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were asking me what kind of object 844 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: you want my cake to look like? 845 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 5: Make it look like a cake. So I can actually 846 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: eat it. O. 847 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: Wow, next level just looks like a cake. All right, 848 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: let's uh, we got a lot more still to throw 849 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: some thumbs on. But before we do, a quick word 850 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: from our sponsor. 851 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 3: Look, I love my personal care products from Hawthorne that 852 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: we all rave about. We even mentioned it earlier in 853 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: this podcast. That's how much we love it. But I 854 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 3: have some qualms too. It's time for a complainted area 855 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: ad spot. 856 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: Can't we resolve this conflict without anger? 857 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. In the spirit of Maddio, I am 858 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 3: gonna air my gripes because I nor Mattie Austin are 859 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: above complaining about free stuff. So Hawthorne, Hawthorn, it's been 860 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 3: a great couple of months with you. Gotta be honest, 861 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 3: But the print on the bottles is coming off in 862 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 3: the shower. The white labeling, which once read body wash, 863 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: now looks like snow on the side of a bottle. Now. 864 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: I contacted Hawthorn and they said it tends to happen 865 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 3: with showers, essentially steaming it off. I gotta disagree. My 866 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: shampoo and conditioner labels are fine as I haven't been 867 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 3: using them and I haven't been taking hot showers because 868 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: I got poison ivy on my legs and that just 869 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 3: makes it burn. It's a wear and tear issue. That's 870 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: what's happening, Hawthorn. Still, they're addressing it. Can't complain. Second, 871 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: all the body wash shampoo conditioner bottles are exactly the 872 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 3: same size and color. You guys know this, right mm hm. 873 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 3: You go to pick one, you go to pick one 874 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: up and you're like, ah, no, that's not the one 875 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 3: I wanted. Yeah, Hawthorne said they're working on addressing that 876 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 3: because it's a major issue for people who are far sighted. 877 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: They can't read it. These guys are good. 878 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: Hey, that's smart. They should just change the cap color. 879 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do. You don't even have to 880 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: worry about keep the bottles the exact same or at 881 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: least address the label peeling off for tasks it really 882 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: irks them. But yeah, change the cap. That's a great idea. 883 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: CAP's a good idea. Also, not a lot of not 884 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 3: very labor and ten. So you don't have to change 885 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: all the bottles, Just change the caps. Just get a 886 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 3: new cap provider. Hawthorn. Beautiful, that's what we're here for. 887 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 3: We're a work We got lots of time. We're a 888 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: focus group, all right. Lastly, this isn't like a matdos 889 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 3: in forty eight minute complainted area. Lastly, the bottles have 890 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 3: fallen out of my hands. 891 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 2: Multiple that's your hands are ror I've shot those hands 892 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: before to slippery. 893 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 3: They're slippery. They are slippery. I'm convinced they're slippery. Hawthorne 894 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: replied to me actually and said, you're a buffoon. Learned 895 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 3: to pull, learn to hold something in your hand, you idiot. 896 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 3: I'm kidding. No, they didn't reply that, but the silence 897 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: to that complaint said it all. They are slippery anyway. Also, 898 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: I need some refills and that works out well because 899 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 3: Hawthorn dot co gets you ten percent off your first 900 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 3: purchase with the code no dunks. That's Hawthorn dot com. 901 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 3: And use our promo code no dunks to get ten 902 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 3: percent off your first purchase. Check out Hawthorn at Hawthorn 903 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: dot co. That's Hawthorn with any and dot co dot 904 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: com Hawthorn dot c. Oh, that's for you, Mattio my. 905 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: Birthday test, well yours too, I guess in a month's 906 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: time about give her take? Could you talk to Danielle 907 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: and make me and have her make me a cake 908 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 1: that's Hawthorn products, order it. That would be cool trade. 909 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: Maybe you would even like that. 910 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: So oh yeah, if you're making cakes into Hawthorn products, 911 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: I will be up on that. But only if they 912 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 2: have different colored caps. 913 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 3: Okay, I think, I think what I'm what, I'm thinking. 914 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 3: What I envisioned this cake. It's just a cake. Yeah, 915 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 3: and you stick the three I got three bottles, stick 916 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 3: them right on top. So you got a hawthorn cake 917 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: right there. Boom. 918 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: All right, Hello, back into the updown report. According to 919 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah Who's Chris Hanes, Jimmy Butler had security called on 920 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: him last week at his Disney World hotel room for 921 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: causing a disturbance. Haynes said security received a complaint about 922 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: loud thumpin' going on. When the security guard went to 923 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: the room, the guard encountered Jimmy Buckets with his practice 924 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: gear on, drenched in sweat. Butler reportedly was dribbling a 925 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: basketball late into the early morning. He's making a ton 926 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: of noise. But I'm throwing on my tinfoil hat for 927 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: this one, guys, And I'd like to credit Kurt Helen 928 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: at NBC Sports for this wild theory. What if Jimmy 929 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: Butler actually called security on himself and made sure the 930 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: story was leaked to Chris Haynes just so the legend 931 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: of Jimmy's crazy work ethic, you know, carried into the bubble. 932 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: All right, that's the conspiracy here? Are you up or 933 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: down on the idea that Jimmy Butler called security on himself? Trey? 934 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: Is there anything to this? 935 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 5: This is true? 936 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: This is one hundred percent up. Nobody wants you to 937 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: know more about their workout schedule than Jimmy Butler. We 938 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: heard about him working out at three am and four 939 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 2: am when he got to the heat. We heard about 940 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: his practice with the Minnesota Timberwolves, which he went on 941 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 2: ESPN and talked about immediately afterwards. This is a classic 942 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler story. It has to be true. But if 943 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: it turns out that it's not true and it's somebody else, 944 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 2: it's still a great story because it means the first 945 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 2: real complaint we hear about from the bubble snitch hotline 946 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 2: is a neighborly complaint, And I think that's way funnier 947 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 2: than somebody violating protocol. 948 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 5: They're like, they're just keeping me. 949 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: Up here in my hotel room, which now means we 950 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: got to hear the scoop of who called it in. 951 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: You know, is it another player, is it a coach 952 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: who's actually trying to get some sleep. Either way, the 953 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 2: story is great, but I do think it's Jimmy Butler 954 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 2: turning in Jimmy Butler. 955 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: It'd be great if TJ. Warren is in the room 956 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 4: below him. 957 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 958 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: He's like, man, I can't believe this. Right, I'm calling 959 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 4: the cops. That's it. Jimmy stopped working out at three 960 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 4: am in the morning. But I actually agree with Trey. 961 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 4: I think Jimmy is like, man, you can't keep me 962 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 4: in my hotel room. I'm going to get a workout 963 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 4: in no matter what. Look how hard I'm working, everybody, 964 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 4: and he just wants it out there to know that 965 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 4: when the game starts, Jimmy's gonna be ready because that's 966 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 4: his whole thing. It's like he's always ready, He's always 967 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 4: in shape, and he always wants to go. And he's saying, 968 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 4: even in my hotel room where you guys are all sleeping, 969 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 4: I'm getting a few dribbles in. I respect it. 970 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it sounds like something you would 971 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: do just sure you got a basketball in your room. 972 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: You're I don't know if you're dribbling as much as 973 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: you're shooting it at something, but you're breaking lamps, that's 974 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: for sure. 975 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely dribbling. I'm getting a few shots up 976 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 4: as well, but yeah, I'm dribbling working on the. 977 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: Handle tas well. You agree with us here. Everybody sounds 978 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: like they're up on the conspiracy theory that Jimmy called 979 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: the cops on himself, called security on himself. What do 980 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: you think? 981 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: It almost makes too much sense not to be true. 982 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: I gotta believe it. I gotta believe it. When he 983 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 3: was working out at three point thirty and the Miami 984 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 3: heats jim who's reporting on that. That's not the security guard, 985 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 3: It's Jimmy Colin and saying, hey, report on me working 986 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 3: out at three thirty. Let people know that I'm there 987 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: at three thirty. Jimmy loves telling people Jimmy works out. 988 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 3: I think that's I think it's entirely plausible, which is 989 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 3: very very funny. 990 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: Next one here, Damian Lillard turned thirty on Wednesday, and 991 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: the Trailblazers they tried their best to throw them a 992 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: party there in Orlando. CJ. McCollum. He decorated deames presidential 993 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: suite door. Yes, he's got the big room Dame does. 994 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: And according to Mark Spears, the party included some bubbly, 995 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: some Crown Royal, lemon, pepper wings, short ribs, and some 996 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: surprises which I think we're still waiting to maybe learn 997 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: of the surprises, if we learn of the surprises, because 998 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: the party happened late last night. Happy birthday to Lillard. 999 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: But Jad, let's go with you first. Are you up 1000 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: or down on the blazers throwing Damian Lillard a grown man, 1001 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: a thirtieth birthday party in the bubble. 1002 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 6: I'm up on it, of course I cop on it. 1003 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 6: It's a party. He's turning thirty. That's a big one. 1004 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 7: That's a big one, true true, especially in a basketball 1005 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 7: player's life. Know you're leaving your your twenties and yeah, 1006 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 7: you're you're allowed to have a party. I'm hoping to 1007 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 7: get a party. I'm turning fifty this year. 1008 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 6: Whoa wow. 1009 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 7: And it's going to be in a bubble probably the 1010 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 7: way things are going, So it's gonna be one to remember. 1011 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 6: Sure to get some crystal up in here. 1012 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: So you're you're up on this. No problems with this. 1013 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 7: No, why would have a problem unless, of course, I'm 1014 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 7: assuming everybody is doing what they're supposed to be doing. 1015 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 7: No outsiders in bubble people only. 1016 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm into it. 1017 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 4: Okay, Maybe mightbe Jimmy Butler didn't get invited and so 1018 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 4: he's like, all right, you're not gonna invite with your potty, 1019 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be bouncing the bull. 1020 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: All not, that's it, maybe, Tray, What do you think 1021 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: about Lillard's thirtieth here? 1022 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 2: It's just nice that he gets to have a birthday party, 1023 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure with all of the teams spread 1024 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: out throughout the country during the shutdown, there was no 1025 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: chance to have a birthday party, So it works out 1026 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: nice that he turns. 1027 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 5: Thirty when they're actually all together. 1028 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: You know, we saw some of the footage of Dwight 1029 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: Howard going to like a DJ at a pool and 1030 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 2: there was nobody else there, just the DJ playing in 1031 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 2: some empty chairs in Dwight. I hope it was a 1032 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 2: little bit more fun than that, and I suspect it 1033 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 2: was because Mark J. Spears reported that agent Aaron Goodwin 1034 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: also got Lillered a very expensive birthday present that he 1035 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: was uncomfortable mailing to Orlando. 1036 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 5: That sounds interesting to be. 1037 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 3: What would do? 1038 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 5: What's so expensive that you can't mail it to Orlando? 1039 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 3: A car? 1040 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 2: I guess you wouldn't be driving a car around the 1041 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 2: bubble a really cool golf cart to get around Disney World. 1042 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1043 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: Or maybe it's like just like something you could in 1044 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: theory mail, but it's so damn expensive you don't want 1045 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: to get lost in the mail or never like a 1046 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: watch or something, or piece of jewelry or something. Yeah, 1047 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: who knows. I can't wait to find out what it is, though, 1048 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: task What do you think about this? 1049 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm so so thirtieth birthday, as JD said, gotta drink 1050 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 3: Cristal to this one. JD when he a turn in 1051 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 3: fifty later this year November seven, too bad, Dame would 1052 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 3: have dropped fifty for you if it was if if 1053 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: there was a basketball game on that day. But we'll 1054 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 3: be having a no dunks party. It's the off season. 1055 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 3: You got to you got to come in. You got 1056 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 3: to come in for a zoom party. I'm just kid, 1057 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 3: just kidd. 1058 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: Saw a hold on, hold on, hold on. So as 1059 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 1: long as if this was his thirty first birthday party. 1060 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: Are we celebrating it? 1061 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 4: Like? 1062 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: I want to get I want to dig deep on this, 1063 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: you know, like what point do you stop celebrating a 1064 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: birthday party? 1065 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 4: Or do you think I think it's after the So 1066 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 4: is the milestone in America twenty one? Isn't it when 1067 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 4: you can start drinking? Is that right? But yeah, yeah, 1068 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 4: so I think twenty one twenty one you're allowed to 1069 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 4: have one and then on the on the when you 1070 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 4: turn decades, so thirty, forty fifty but not okay. 1071 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: Someone's like when I turn when I turn, well, I'm 1072 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: turning forty this August, so we'll throw a party if 1073 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: we can. But if I'm turning thirty nine, come on, yeah, 1074 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: you're probably not throwing a birthday party, no way, man. 1075 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: Some people disagree with that. Least some people are like, 1076 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you throw. 1077 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 4: A birthday at And people though like to say, it's 1078 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 4: my birthday week and they need to have six different celebrations, 1079 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, no you don't. You're not getting 1080 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 4: one out of me. 1081 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 3: Come on your party poopers. If somebody wants to have 1082 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 3: a party, they canna have a Yeah, fine, a party. 1083 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 3: We have a week a week. 1084 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 4: Sure, sure I get but when people because again I've 1085 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 4: seen a couple of people and they're like, oh, we're 1086 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 4: going out for drinks this night and then this ifull 1087 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 4: we do that, and I'm like, there's no way, There 1088 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 4: is no way unless you're eight years old that you 1089 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 4: get like to sort of carry it over for a 1090 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 4: day or two, like that's it. You're not getting like 1091 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 4: a whole week of people fawning over you, like because 1092 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 4: you turn thirty seven, get out of here. 1093 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 5: You better never watch VANDR Pump Rules Lee. All they 1094 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 5: talk about is birthday. 1095 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 4: I'll avoid it. 1096 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: Then that's pretty easy for me to do. 1097 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 7: What were you saying, j I'll be partying for the 1098 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 7: entire year. I'm tearing fifty for six. I'm partying from 1099 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 7: November seven, twenty twenty to November seven, twenty twenty one. 1100 00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 6: Well enjoy it. 1101 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 4: Every time I see you, I'm not giving you a 1102 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 4: hug happy fiftieth man like six months ago, Like, I'm 1103 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 4: very happy for you, but I'm not gonna be like JD, 1104 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 4: what are we doing tomorrow? Another day? 1105 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: And now the day of fifty I got it, man, 1106 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 1: we gotta buy him something every day that could. 1107 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 4: Be a funny little bit, to be honest. 1108 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, all right, we got a few more here. 1109 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: We've got some fun ones. As you all know, the 1110 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: NBA bubble has turned into a bit of a frat 1111 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: party with everybody's shotgun and beers. JJ Reddick. He threw 1112 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: one down after his tweet from the day before miraculously 1113 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 1: hit ten thousand retweets, and he was a man of 1114 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: his word, and he shotguns slowly but light Myers. Leonard 1115 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: then sucked one back. You know, it's it's become a 1116 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: thing down there, tas her you up or down on shotgunning. 1117 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 3: Beers, the NBA turning into a bro show. You know, 1118 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 3: I'm up buying why the heck and hot first, I'm 1119 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 3: up on a few things. Light beer, a bud light. 1120 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 3: It's smart. It's like chugging water. And like Myers Leonard 1121 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 3: told Zach Low, he did it in two point six seconds. 1122 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 3: I guess it was timed. Somebody timed it. I don't know. 1123 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 3: I guess the Internet was timing it. He was a 1124 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 3: little disappointed in himself, He said he grew up in 1125 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 3: the sticks. He put four beers in a growler once 1126 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 3: and chugged it back hearing the words growler on a 1127 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 3: basketball podcast. I absolutely loved hearing it. But it was 1128 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 3: in his room, and you know, there's some spill that's 1129 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 3: gonna happen if you got carpets in there. I don't 1130 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 3: like that. I don't want my beer stinking like my 1131 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 3: room stinking like beer for a week or months. You know, 1132 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 3: if you don't clean that thing and they're not cleaning 1133 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 3: it as much, so I'd be worried about that. I'm 1134 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 3: sure Meyers Leonard's probably spraying that spot with some some 1135 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 3: axiodorant or something and cleaning it up. Get some hawthorn 1136 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 3: in there. Clean that baby up. That's the only part 1137 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: I'm down on. But everybody, everybody chugging beer is like, 1138 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 3: I want three hundred and fifty players pounding one back 1139 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 3: on zoom. 1140 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 2: Let's do it, Trey, what do you think Myers Leonard 1141 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 2: throws himself birthday parties? I'll tell you that much. That 1142 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 2: guy still got the chug game down. You can tell 1143 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: JJ Reddick's a thirty six year old man. He's sitting 1144 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: in a pool and took him like ten seconds. 1145 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: To do it. 1146 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 2: The next thing you know, Myers Leonard's crushing four in 1147 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 2: the time it took JJ Reddick to do one. Then 1148 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 2: he's got this crazy move where he puts a beer 1149 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: on top of a basketball, drops it, it pops up 1150 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 2: back into his hand and he crushed it again. This 1151 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 2: is the fan interaction we were looking for. We didn't 1152 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 2: know what was gonna be. It turns out it's just 1153 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 2: gonna be people retweeting for players to do bubble stunts 1154 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 2: when they're in their hotel room. I say, we got 1155 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 2: to get some players do an ice chest. I don't 1156 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 2: know how many retweets it's gonna take for Damian Lillard 1157 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 2: to whip an ice cube at CJ McCollums chest, But 1158 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 2: if it's got to be fifty thousand, I'm here for it. 1159 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and ice chest was originated in a hotel room. 1160 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: That's oh yes, that's where it started. The game of 1161 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: ice chest that was in Portland, wasn't it was? I 1162 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: think it was in Portland? Yeah, literally, right, that's it. 1163 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: That's got to be the Blazers. Hopefully that at his 1164 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 1: birthday party they played ice chess. 1165 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: I can just imagine maybe that's what I excuse me, 1166 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 2: I hear a whole bunch of loud smashes and people groaning. 1167 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on above me, but it 1168 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 2: sounds violent. No, it's like Zach Collins, excuse me, the 1169 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 2: ice machine is out of ice. 1170 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: What's going on on floor three? Can we check that out? 1171 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 4: That's what Little's agent was, sending him your whole ice 1172 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 4: machine to go in there, so we. 1173 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: Have it in his room. Stunning, but Yetti, you can 1174 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: keep that ice for weeks. Okay? So Lee, what are 1175 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 1: you up around on shotgunning beers? 1176 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 4: You know, there's a time and a place for it. 1177 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's great they're out there, they're having fun. 1178 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 4: But you know my thoughts on budwise a bud light 1179 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 4: or that sort of garbage. You mean, you may as 1180 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 4: well just tip it down the drain. You're gonna get 1181 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 4: that much of joy out of it. That's even said. 1182 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 4: It's water, basically, I mean it's it's ugly water. So 1183 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 4: you know, if you're gonna have a beer, a have 1184 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 4: a nice beer, just enjoy the beer. Sit back and 1185 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 4: have a Guinness. You know I'll do that. 1186 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: You're not having a Guinness in this heat, JD. 1187 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 4: I'll have a Guinness for your birthday with you. I'll 1188 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 4: enjoy that one. 1189 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 6: All right, every day for one year. 1190 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: That's fine. 1191 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 4: See, now that's a sort of celebration. That's actually I 1192 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 4: could get on. I could jump on Bootview. You know, 1193 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 4: it's like just gonna have my daily beer with It's 1194 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 4: not pawny guiness. 1195 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: Set up the zoomy day, no Guinness with each other. 1196 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 7: Jenny, what do you think shotgunning a beer in general 1197 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 7: is stupid? It's just a stupid thing to do. But 1198 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 7: you know, sometimes stupid things are great. So I haven't 1199 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 7: shotgunned a beer probably since I was twenty one, and 1200 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 7: you know, that's fine, and that's that's good. But I 1201 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 7: do like to suck back beer, and I like to 1202 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 7: suck it back fast. 1203 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 6: So you know, do I need to do I need 1204 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 6: to shotgun a beer. 1205 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: No, I'm up on this because Tassi said it. I 1206 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: think in our slack channel, I still owe you guys. 1207 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: I'll pick them payoff. I lost February and then, of course, 1208 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: you know we hadn't got to it in March, trying 1209 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: to figure out what we were going to do it. Well, 1210 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: I was going to do to pay off my February loss, 1211 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,959 Speaker 1: and you said, tass, hey, maybe there's something here. Maybe 1212 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: you have to shotgun a bud light or a beer 1213 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: off the the top of a show one of these days, 1214 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 1: one of the on one of the podcasts. I think 1215 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: that's a If you guys are on board, I'll poorly, 1216 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: terribly shotgun a beer. I am not very good at this. 1217 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 1: I will be honest. I mean, i'd like to say, 1218 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll just do it. We'll pick We'll 1219 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 1: pick a show next week or whenever before the end 1220 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 1: of the month, and I'll pay off my February a loss. 1221 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: I'll shock on a beer. I think I think JD 1222 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: you said it should be at the start of the show. Yeah, 1223 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: of course, the end, and then we'll go from there. Okay, 1224 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 1: it's a good idea. It's a good idea. It's a quick, 1225 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: easy one. And you can see me make a mess. 1226 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: I'll ruin my computer and the mic. Yeah, I got 1227 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: some carpet in here, tasks. That's going to be a 1228 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: problem with a towel down. Yeah, all right, So I 1229 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,760 Speaker 1: will at some point shotgun a beer on a podcast. 1230 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: All right, final one. We're riending. On a very positive note, 1231 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: we learned yesterday that Drew Holliday and his wife Lauren 1232 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: are using the Pelicans guards remaining game checks for this 1233 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: season to launch a social justice fund. Drew's game checks, 1234 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: worth possibly up to five point three million, will help 1235 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: start the Drew and Lauren Holiday Social Justice Impact Fund, 1236 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: which is designated to id communities in New Orleans, Indianapolis, 1237 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 1: and the Los Angeles area. I am throwing you the 1238 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: fattest softball LB here of all time, but Lee will 1239 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: go to you first. Are you upera down on the 1240 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: Holiday family in general? 1241 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 4: Down? They're a awful family, aren't they. They never do 1242 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 4: anything for everybody anybody else. They're very selfish. No, obviously, 1243 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 4: this is a great thing that Drew's doing. And yes, 1244 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 4: he's dedicating most of the money to nonprofits and black 1245 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 4: owned businesses and citywide initiatives that seek to bring equitable 1246 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 4: outcomes for black and brown communities and those cities you 1247 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 4: mention you or Leans, Los Angeles, and Indianapolis. So yeah, 1248 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 4: obviously a fantastic thing. And this is the sort of 1249 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 4: thing that we've been talking about where you know, putting 1250 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 4: names or words on the back of your jersey versus 1251 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 4: actually making an action that is clearly going to have 1252 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 4: an impact. And this is what Drew's doing here. I 1253 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 4: have no idea if he's going to put a cause 1254 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 4: on his jersey as well. But I think again, and 1255 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 4: this is what you see guys like, I've got this money, 1256 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 4: and here's where I'm going to try to contribute and 1257 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,800 Speaker 4: try to help. You know, five million dollars sounds like 1258 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 4: a lot when you're spread it out to you know, 1259 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 4: it sort of goes thinly because he's trying to help 1260 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 4: so many different causes. But everything that he's doing there 1261 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 4: is obviously fantastic and you wish him more the best. 1262 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 4: And yeah, his family and his wife Lauren, they're incredibly 1263 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 4: inspirational family. Drew took some time off when she had 1264 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 4: a brain tumor a couple of years ago to be 1265 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 4: there to support his wife, and yeah, everything he does 1266 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 4: really does seem to help other people. So obviously a 1267 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 4: big thumbs up. 1268 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dwight Howard has committed to do the same Patty Mills, 1269 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 2: I believe as well. Hopefully we get some owners on board. 1270 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 2: You know, the players are going to make in a 1271 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 2: lot of money. Like you're saying, Lee, five million dollars, 1272 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 2: it sounds like a lot. The owners are going to 1273 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 2: be making a whole bunch more money. So let's see 1274 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 2: how they are able to match the players who are 1275 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 2: certainly leading the way fighting for social justice as they 1276 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 2: always have. Then we all know they're going back into 1277 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: the bubble to make a whole bunch of money. So hopefully, 1278 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, seeing some of the players lead the way, 1279 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 2: it leads the teams and the owners to want to 1280 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 2: do something the same. 1281 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and speaking of everything that Drew Holiday has done 1282 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 3: in his past and donated money in his past, I've 1283 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 3: found this part even more amazing how self aware he is. 1284 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 3: And he said about this, with everything going on in 1285 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 3: this world, it made me and my wife realize that 1286 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 3: we aren't invested in our community as we feel we 1287 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 3: should be. Even though it's kind of a kick in 1288 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 3: the pantsy, you kind of feel like I should have 1289 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 3: known this, or I should have known I could have 1290 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 3: been doing this before. But you're never too late. As 1291 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 3: he told ESPN, everything he's done and he's still thinking 1292 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 3: about it and still understands that he should be embedded 1293 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 3: deeper in his community. That's how much of a badass 1294 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,919 Speaker 3: Drew Holiday is, and he is an inspiration. And yeah, 1295 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 3: players donating money, et cetera is great, But I think 1296 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 3: you know, guys like Drew Holliday are going to go 1297 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 3: even deeper and actually try and get policy changed, et cetera. 1298 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 3: So good on you, Drew Holiday. Not surprising coming from 1299 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 3: him and his great family. And Lauren Holliday had a 1300 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 3: great write up in the Player's Tribune as well recently 1301 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 3: about her experience with Drew Holiday and Drew Holliday being 1302 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 3: handcuffed for absolutely no reason while they were together once 1303 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 3: upon a time. That was a great write up in 1304 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 3: the Player's Tribune. 1305 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, on the TV show and we were the starters, 1306 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: we would throw one thumb up, right because we had 1307 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,439 Speaker 1: those big foam thumbs. But I would definitely throw two 1308 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: thumbs up for this, not only what they're doing their initiative, 1309 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: but also for this Holiday given the credit to his wife. 1310 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: Smart man here, I love this, he said. My wife 1311 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: one night was just like, I really feel like you 1312 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: should pledge the rest of your salary. Once she said that, 1313 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: it was like, damn, you're a genius. Not only are 1314 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: they doing this, but then Drew Holiday getting huge brownie points. 1315 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: So his wife is like, this is her idea, this 1316 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: is the best that's smart move, and she's smart. So 1317 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: good call there, Drew Holiday. So double thumbs up for 1318 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: this one as we end the up down report. That 1319 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,439 Speaker 1: was a fun one, guys, thanks for joining us today. 1320 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: We got a fun guess lined up Tomorrow. We're gonna 1321 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: go one on one with King of the fourth Quarter himself. 1322 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Two K YouTube star Through the Wire podcast host Kenny 1323 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Beacham is coming on the podcast. The people wanted this, 1324 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 1: they wanted this collapse, so I'm very excited to talk 1325 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: to Kenny King in the fourth Quarter here on the podcast. 1326 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: So make sure you've subscribed up. While you're doing that, 1327 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: check out the new podcast feed the Athletic NBA Show. 1328 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: They had a great one up today. Point of contention, 1329 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: that's the new pod within that feed, Ethan Sherwood Strauss 1330 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Marcus Thompson. The plot is titled Weed in the Bubbler, 1331 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: so you know it's a good one. Marcus Thompson writing 1332 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: about the players getting their weed, maintaining their weed in 1333 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: the bubble. Fantastic stuff. So go check that out The 1334 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Athletic NBA Show. That's it for today. Clipper Bros. 1335 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 6: You heard it here first. 1336 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 5: Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys awesome. 1337 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. I remember we're getting the collab 1338 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 3: with Kenny Beach on Friday. 1339 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Check it out price today. People would say, oh. 1340 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 9: Every day, and and you happy every minute. It's been 1341 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 9: so long that you're the one I've waiting for. It's 1342 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 9: happened already. It's gonna be grippy.