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Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello, welcome to Cadaver Gall's the podcast

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Speaker 1: where we talk about all the ways people have died

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Speaker 1: throughout history in order to cope with our own mortality.

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Speaker 1: I'm Taylor along with Gabby. Hey, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be first. I got

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Speaker 1: real excited, but unless yeah, I noticed that. Sorry, I know,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of rude. But um, today we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about submarines and the lottery. Um, today's true, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. We're just talking about these things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it. It's nothing to about death. If you ever,

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Speaker 1: you know, never, if you win the lottery, you could

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Speaker 1: buy a submarine. But I don't know if we would

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Speaker 1: want to after listening to gabby story. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: buy a submarine. I mean surely there are like submar

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Speaker 1: creational submarines for sure. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Pretty expensive. I bought at least twenty ninety nine. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Today's trigger warnings are drowning, asphyxiation, murder, slavery. So good stuff,

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Speaker 1: all right, cute music. All right, Gabby, please tell us

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Speaker 1: about these submarines and you know, just tell us. Uh, Okay, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you just dive right in. Oh funny, funny, funny,

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Speaker 1: funny funny. That was like a minute later, and he

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Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, yeah, pun nice. Okay, it's morning time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: don't rue it is morning Okay. So we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about this guy. Always a man, Okay, it's always

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Speaker 1: a man. We're talking today, we're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 1: this submarine, which actually at the time they called it

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Speaker 1: a fish boat or a fish torpedo boat, or they

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Speaker 1: called it a porpoise because it looked like a porpoise

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Speaker 1: from Afar, which and we all know a porpoise is,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like a dolphin that's mouth isn't all

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Speaker 1: the way done, you know, it just got stopped right there. Anyway, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought they were the thinking of a pufferfish. Sorry, okay, No,

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Speaker 1: the porpoise is the one. Yeah, I was looking up.

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Speaker 1: They kind of looked like dolphins if they were like

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Speaker 1: really happy, thick daddy porpoise, thick daddy porpoise. So this

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Speaker 1: is a story of Horace Lawson Hunley, and this has

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Speaker 1: happening during the Civil War and he's on the side

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Speaker 1: of the Confederacy sword of so you don't really have

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Speaker 1: to root for him, okay, but he was mostly bad

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Speaker 1: bad vibes. That was a Confederacy bad vibes only. But

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Speaker 1: Hunley was a lawyer. He was born in the eighteen

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Speaker 1: twenties and he was just doing his law thing. But

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Speaker 1: then the Civil War started and he was like he

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Speaker 1: kind of transitioned to being more of a profiteer, which

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Speaker 1: is someone who's like, hey, horrific shit is happening. Let's

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Speaker 1: see how I can make money off of it. You know. Basically,

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Speaker 1: he was reading in the paper and there is a

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Speaker 1: bunch of people writing about how the Confederacy is like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll pay you like fifty thousand Confederate bucks or whatever

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Speaker 1: if you can sink a Union ship. Because the Union

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Speaker 1: ships were just stationed all around the city ports and

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Speaker 1: making sure that nothing was getting into them. So they're

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Speaker 1: being you know, choked out a little bit by the

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Speaker 1: Union blockade. So Hunley was like, oh shit, I should

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Speaker 1: start making some subs so I can choke them out,

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Speaker 1: you know, not a sandwich, but like a submarine. Oh yeah, specifically,

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Speaker 1: but basically, mister Hunley is going to eventually die by

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Speaker 1: his own design, by probably asphyxiation. They're not exactly sure

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Speaker 1: what had happened. Um, And so going back to being

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Speaker 1: choked out, you know, usually you don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: was making doms Anyway, that's all I'm saying. That was delightful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, funny joke from Gabby. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: how many funny jokes Gabby does this episode. Here's one

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Speaker 1: that's the only one I got. Um that was a

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Speaker 1: premeditated joke. So Hundley, he gets into the business. He

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Speaker 1: But he kind of he knew a little bit about

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Speaker 1: engineering as well. And the problem is that, like the Confederacy,

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Speaker 1: historians were like, well they either had somewhere between like

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Speaker 1: Confederacy last like less than four years? Yeah? Yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: the engineer James McClintock, and then Baxter Watson. I do

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Speaker 1: like the name Baxter. That is a fun that is

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Speaker 1: I think that's what cinema is missing, is a syllable

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Speaker 1: war movie. But everyone's a dog, right, But dogs aren't mean.

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Speaker 1: But I would say they might be ideologically deficient too,

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Speaker 1: you know, Oh my god, I mean offense to guess.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if Gus, you know, thinks things

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Speaker 1: through all the time, he thinks everything. Where are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? You're right, I'm being a bitch. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: these dudes they make this boat, they make a submarine,

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Speaker 1: a fish boat called the Pioneer. It just like the

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Speaker 1: way they described how they're making these early submarines. It

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Speaker 1: then we're like, let's nail it together and make a

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Speaker 1: Elmer's glue. They put some sparkles on it, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: look our submarine. Yeah. But also these submarines flack. Like

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine being inside of like a submarine in general.

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Speaker 1: It sounds really scary. But like these were like these

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Speaker 1: submarines were like at most like five feet tall, and

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Speaker 1: if you farted in there? That's all I'm saying. That's

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Speaker 1: a hand cranked sub It's just crazy. Also, the bathroom,

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Speaker 1: or is their granola bars? That's all I'm saying. Okay anyway,

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Speaker 1: Except the problem is as they were like trying to

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, fuck, we gotta they're gonna get our sub,

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Speaker 1: So they ended up having to sink it so it

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Speaker 1: Oh that's the name of the bird in The Little Mermaid.

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Speaker 1: I never liked him. I feel like he was such

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Speaker 1: a vibe killer. I hate a vibe killer. No bad

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Speaker 1: might have a lot in common. Then okay, they don't.

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Speaker 1: They done scuttled that boat, and then they're like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: the war is very sexual. That's you know what they

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Speaker 1: That's what they were saying. Anyway, So they build this

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Speaker 1: submarine emerged, no problem. The Confederates were like, yas queen,

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Speaker 1: because the Union is fucking, you know, messing up our shit.

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Speaker 1: So we need to go you know, ram some of

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Speaker 1: those boats. Okay, so they get it over the Charleston area.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is mcclen talk, who was one of

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Speaker 1: going to take it over. So they seized the sub

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Speaker 1: I haven't, and I don't know how to. I can't

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00:23:46,485 --> 00:23:49,125
Speaker 1: even open my eyes. The salt gets in my eyes

421
00:23:49,165 --> 00:23:51,645
Speaker 1: and then I just get and then I wear contacts too,

422
00:23:51,685 --> 00:23:57,005
Speaker 1: so like would fly out. I'm too weak. For this. Well,

423
00:23:57,045 --> 00:24:00,085
Speaker 1: have they ever talked about, I mean Tanika's point, have

424
00:24:00,125 --> 00:24:02,645
Speaker 1: they ever talked about how you're supposed to remain looking

425
00:24:02,765 --> 00:24:08,725
Speaker 1: fresh and good during this process? Oh god? Okay, so

426
00:24:08,885 --> 00:24:13,365
Speaker 1: you're well, I mean, what is survival? You know, you

427
00:24:13,365 --> 00:24:17,125
Speaker 1: gotta have some dignity, right, you gotta be looking fresh

428
00:24:17,165 --> 00:24:19,525
Speaker 1: and good. As I said, you gotta look you know

429
00:24:19,725 --> 00:24:21,725
Speaker 1: that sea salt. I feel like maybe that could do

430
00:24:21,805 --> 00:24:24,165
Speaker 1: some good things for your skin. I don't know. I mean,

431
00:24:24,885 --> 00:24:30,085
Speaker 1: to me, survival is just not dying. Okay, Well you're Sagittarius,

432
00:24:30,165 --> 00:24:35,725
Speaker 1: so okay, great, my survival is thriving. Okay, my survival

433
00:24:35,805 --> 00:24:41,765
Speaker 1: is looking good. Okay, okay, everyone gets our signs. Okay. Obviously,

434
00:24:41,925 --> 00:24:45,165
Speaker 1: your average Joe Schmo is probably not going to be

435
00:24:45,205 --> 00:24:48,165
Speaker 1: able to do that. I mean, obviously it's like really

436
00:24:48,165 --> 00:24:51,725
Speaker 1: hard for anyone. The Navy they practice that, But it's

437
00:24:51,845 --> 00:24:54,285
Speaker 1: not like your average person is not going to really

438
00:24:54,285 --> 00:24:57,205
Speaker 1: be able to do that. Let's be real. Yeah, they'd

439
00:24:57,245 --> 00:24:59,765
Speaker 1: be blowing and going all the time in the Navy.

440
00:24:59,965 --> 00:25:04,405
Speaker 1: YEP also be on the lookout for the BINS, which

441
00:25:04,485 --> 00:25:07,925
Speaker 1: is decomp Prussian sickness. So if you get back to

442
00:25:07,925 --> 00:25:11,885
Speaker 1: the surface too quickly, that change in pressure creates bubbles

443
00:25:11,925 --> 00:25:14,485
Speaker 1: in like your blood or tissues, and later it can

444
00:25:14,525 --> 00:25:18,605
Speaker 1: cause strokes or heart attacks. You can if you catch

445
00:25:18,645 --> 00:25:22,925
Speaker 1: it early enough, you can go to recompression therapy. It

446
00:25:22,925 --> 00:25:26,485
Speaker 1: needs to be treated pretty early on to be more successful.

447
00:25:27,685 --> 00:25:29,885
Speaker 1: But lastly, what they say is, you know, if you

448
00:25:29,925 --> 00:25:34,005
Speaker 1: don't really have a way to get out, right, a

449
00:25:34,005 --> 00:25:36,125
Speaker 1: lot of people are just like they just accept it.

450
00:25:36,165 --> 00:25:39,165
Speaker 1: They go to their bunks, they they lay down and

451
00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:41,205
Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, this is just the fate

452
00:25:41,325 --> 00:25:44,645
Speaker 1: of my life, and they just kind of wait for death.

453
00:25:45,005 --> 00:25:50,725
Speaker 1: So are the same dog. Yea. So nowadays there's more

454
00:25:50,765 --> 00:25:55,245
Speaker 1: technology for it and you can get out, but if

455
00:25:55,285 --> 00:25:58,885
Speaker 1: that's not there, then you're pretty much doomed. Let unless

456
00:25:58,885 --> 00:26:03,205
Speaker 1: somebody can get to you quickly. So you know, great, fantastic. Oh.

457
00:26:03,245 --> 00:26:06,725
Speaker 1: I also heard that there's like one reason the lot

458
00:26:06,725 --> 00:26:09,045
Speaker 1: of submarines get fucked up is because there's like carbon

459
00:26:09,085 --> 00:26:12,565
Speaker 1: monoxide poisoning or actually or like, yeah, carbon dioxide, and

460
00:26:12,605 --> 00:26:17,365
Speaker 1: apparently that's like carbon dioxide. So yes, it's carbon dioxide poisoning.

461
00:26:17,365 --> 00:26:20,165
Speaker 1: Apparently that shit is painful as hell and it's a

462
00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:23,725
Speaker 1: terrible way to die. So yeah, just another factoid I

463
00:26:23,725 --> 00:26:27,365
Speaker 1: would die in a submarine. Absolutely, That's why we're not,

464
00:26:27,485 --> 00:26:30,045
Speaker 1: you know, going to get into one. But I just

465
00:26:30,325 --> 00:26:32,245
Speaker 1: you know, I would be like, Okay, you know what,

466
00:26:32,245 --> 00:26:35,965
Speaker 1: we're dying, that's what's happening. And I would feel fine,

467
00:26:36,005 --> 00:26:38,725
Speaker 1: you know, if I was being rescued by Atlantis mermaids,

468
00:26:38,725 --> 00:26:41,365
Speaker 1: for example, or if they just took me sweetly into death.

469
00:26:41,645 --> 00:26:45,165
Speaker 1: But if it's Confederate mermaids, I am I don't want

470
00:26:45,845 --> 00:26:47,445
Speaker 1: I will do the blow and go, or I will

471
00:26:47,485 --> 00:26:52,405
Speaker 1: try to at the very least. Yeah, well, the Confederate submarine,

472
00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:54,405
Speaker 1: So this wouldn't have been much of an issue because

473
00:26:54,445 --> 00:26:57,805
Speaker 1: they were like hardly below the surface and yet they

474
00:26:57,845 --> 00:27:00,925
Speaker 1: still would be drowning. Like they would just like barely

475
00:27:00,965 --> 00:27:03,845
Speaker 1: go under the boats to go ram them with their

476
00:27:03,885 --> 00:27:07,445
Speaker 1: spar So the pressure wasn't really an issue. It was

477
00:27:07,485 --> 00:27:09,725
Speaker 1: the snacks that was the issue because they couldn't fit

478
00:27:09,765 --> 00:27:13,485
Speaker 1: that many snacks on the boat. Nags, Okay, that's sad,

479
00:27:14,525 --> 00:27:17,445
Speaker 1: no snacks for you. I mean they've been down there

480
00:27:17,645 --> 00:27:20,845
Speaker 1: for like how long was this process? Do you know? Well,

481
00:27:20,845 --> 00:27:22,525
Speaker 1: they would just be scooned in the boat. I mean

482
00:27:22,525 --> 00:27:24,325
Speaker 1: they want to be like submarines now where it's like

483
00:27:24,365 --> 00:27:26,765
Speaker 1: they're like under there. You know, it was a short

484
00:27:28,085 --> 00:27:30,245
Speaker 1: It was like a short little yeah, because you had

485
00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:32,325
Speaker 1: to use like hand cranks and you had to do this,

486
00:27:32,405 --> 00:27:35,605
Speaker 1: so there wasn't really under for too long. But obviously

487
00:27:35,685 --> 00:27:38,685
Speaker 1: the length of time they are under was not very successful,

488
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:44,725
Speaker 1: makes sense? All right, Well, I have no really good

489
00:27:45,725 --> 00:27:48,325
Speaker 1: transition here, Sonka, do you want to go ahead and

490
00:27:48,365 --> 00:27:53,165
Speaker 1: take us into your lottery murder? The little mermaid bird

491
00:27:53,245 --> 00:27:55,885
Speaker 1: is a liar and so is this bitch. Okay, so

492
00:27:56,285 --> 00:28:00,725
Speaker 1: that's that's the transition. Okay, perfect, Thanks Nka, You're welcome.

493
00:28:00,965 --> 00:28:04,445
Speaker 1: This is a very convoluted story with a lot of

494
00:28:04,485 --> 00:28:07,525
Speaker 1: details that I found, So let let me just get

495
00:28:07,605 --> 00:28:10,325
Speaker 1: into it because I'm literally not gonna have enough time

496
00:28:10,365 --> 00:28:12,085
Speaker 1: to get I'm gonna let all of it. Thank you,

497
00:28:12,205 --> 00:28:14,965
Speaker 1: thank you. So just a heads up. So first of all,

498
00:28:15,365 --> 00:28:18,125
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this guy called Abraham Shakespeare.

499
00:28:18,485 --> 00:28:24,845
Speaker 1: What an intense name. Wow. Okay, Abraham Shakespeare. Nice. So

500
00:28:24,885 --> 00:28:28,565
Speaker 1: we're driving down to Florida for this lovely story, and

501
00:28:28,725 --> 00:28:32,605
Speaker 1: truly this is a Florida story through and through. Okay.

502
00:28:32,605 --> 00:28:36,565
Speaker 1: We're in Lakeland, Florida, the hometown of both Abraham Shakespeare

503
00:28:36,565 --> 00:28:38,685
Speaker 1: and also one of my exes. Oh my gosh. So

504
00:28:38,845 --> 00:28:42,645
Speaker 1: La is a small Florida town with a lot of lakes. Okay,

505
00:28:42,845 --> 00:28:46,165
Speaker 1: It's located between Tampa and Orlando. And Abraham grew up

506
00:28:46,205 --> 00:28:48,125
Speaker 1: in Lakeland. He was raised by a single mother. I

507
00:28:48,165 --> 00:28:50,765
Speaker 1: couldn't find any info and his dad and he dropped

508
00:28:50,765 --> 00:28:53,085
Speaker 1: out of school in seventh grade and he was kind

509
00:28:53,085 --> 00:28:55,285
Speaker 1: of in and out of juvie and then later jail

510
00:28:55,445 --> 00:28:58,285
Speaker 1: for burglaries. He had a hard time, and he ended

511
00:28:58,365 --> 00:29:01,325
Speaker 1: up taking random jobs here and they're kind of doing

512
00:29:01,405 --> 00:29:04,925
Speaker 1: errands for people, just random part time jobs basically, So

513
00:29:04,965 --> 00:29:07,405
Speaker 1: that's kind of his childhood. How he grew up still

514
00:29:07,405 --> 00:29:11,725
Speaker 1: in Lakeland. It's Nobber fifteenth, two thousand and six. Abraham

515
00:29:11,805 --> 00:29:14,725
Speaker 1: I think is in his mid thirties at that point

516
00:29:14,965 --> 00:29:17,805
Speaker 1: or early twenties, I'm not did not find that info.

517
00:29:17,845 --> 00:29:20,765
Speaker 1: But he's living his life in Lakeland basically as an adult.

518
00:29:21,205 --> 00:29:23,085
Speaker 1: He's hanging out with the coworker and they're on their

519
00:29:23,125 --> 00:29:25,925
Speaker 1: way to Miami for a meat delivery job, and so

520
00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:29,925
Speaker 1: they stop at a gas station in Frostproof, Florida. Didn't

521
00:29:29,925 --> 00:29:31,845
Speaker 1: know that was the thing, but okay, and his co

522
00:29:31,925 --> 00:29:34,125
Speaker 1: worker is like, hey, do you want to drink, and

523
00:29:34,245 --> 00:29:36,805
Speaker 1: Abraham is like, no, book, get me a lottery ticket

524
00:29:37,045 --> 00:29:40,365
Speaker 1: and then gives his coworker two dollars for the ticket. So,

525
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:44,445
Speaker 1: in an absolute bananas twist, Abraham ends up winning thirty

526
00:29:44,445 --> 00:29:47,525
Speaker 1: million dollars. Oh that's a lot. That is a lot

527
00:29:47,565 --> 00:29:50,525
Speaker 1: of money. Yes, he ended up opting for a one

528
00:29:50,605 --> 00:29:53,645
Speaker 1: time payment of seventeen million, because it seems like when

529
00:29:53,685 --> 00:29:56,085
Speaker 1: you win the lottery you can either do the one

530
00:29:56,125 --> 00:30:02,605
Speaker 1: time lump sum payment or do like in really installments. Yeah,

531
00:30:02,765 --> 00:30:05,805
Speaker 1: do it in installments, which is basically like an nual

532
00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:08,925
Speaker 1: payment spread out over twenty to thirty years. But Abraham said, no,

533
00:30:09,205 --> 00:30:11,645
Speaker 1: I want the money. Even though obviously he won thirty

534
00:30:11,645 --> 00:30:14,845
Speaker 1: million he ended up getting seventeen Still he wanted the money. Okay,

535
00:30:15,005 --> 00:30:17,565
Speaker 1: I'd be mad if his friend was his I mean,

536
00:30:17,605 --> 00:30:19,285
Speaker 1: does his friend has something to do with the story,

537
00:30:19,325 --> 00:30:22,085
Speaker 1: So I won't say anything if that's the It's actually

538
00:30:22,125 --> 00:30:24,405
Speaker 1: funny you mentioned that his friend ended up suing him

539
00:30:24,485 --> 00:30:27,325
Speaker 1: because his friend was like, actually, Abraham stole the ticket

540
00:30:27,405 --> 00:30:29,925
Speaker 1: from me and then no one believed him in court,

541
00:30:30,085 --> 00:30:33,165
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, Abraham ended up winning that case, but

542
00:30:33,325 --> 00:30:37,045
Speaker 1: the friend asked for a million dollars and Abraham ended

543
00:30:37,085 --> 00:30:39,525
Speaker 1: up winning the case. So, I mean, if I won

544
00:30:39,565 --> 00:30:41,685
Speaker 1: the lottery and my friend bought me the ticket for

545
00:30:41,725 --> 00:30:44,125
Speaker 1: two dollars, I would give my friend. Well maybe they

546
00:30:44,125 --> 00:30:46,445
Speaker 1: weren't that close. It depends on which friend handed me

547
00:30:46,525 --> 00:30:51,125
Speaker 1: the lottery ticket. But you girls, you girls, gloul, you

548
00:30:51,165 --> 00:30:56,285
Speaker 1: would be getting a million dollars. Thank you, Gabby. That's

549
00:30:56,325 --> 00:30:59,885
Speaker 1: so sweet. Um, maybe you don't want to win the lottery, Gabby, though,

550
00:30:59,925 --> 00:31:03,885
Speaker 1: just after this story, okay, okay, good. So it seems

551
00:31:03,885 --> 00:31:07,445
Speaker 1: like Abraham was a very a very simple guy, and

552
00:31:07,765 --> 00:31:10,125
Speaker 1: he really didn't want to just totally change his life.

553
00:31:10,125 --> 00:31:12,285
Speaker 1: He was, like he told a reporter, he wanted to

554
00:31:12,285 --> 00:31:14,445
Speaker 1: spend more time with his family and friends and go

555
00:31:14,525 --> 00:31:17,885
Speaker 1: on walks and keep things just low key. But obviously

556
00:31:18,125 --> 00:31:20,885
Speaker 1: when people find out that you won the lottery, they're

557
00:31:20,925 --> 00:31:24,805
Speaker 1: gonna like come looking for money. And he was inundated

558
00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:28,085
Speaker 1: with requests from family and friends. And because he wasn't

559
00:31:28,125 --> 00:31:30,925
Speaker 1: really into spending a lot of money, he actually gave

560
00:31:31,245 --> 00:31:33,965
Speaker 1: a lot of it away. The only big things that

561
00:31:34,045 --> 00:31:36,365
Speaker 1: he bought with his money was a rolex at a

562
00:31:36,365 --> 00:31:39,685
Speaker 1: pawn shop. He bought a Nissan Altimum, and he bought

563
00:31:39,725 --> 00:31:42,925
Speaker 1: a million dollars six thousand square feet house in a

564
00:31:43,045 --> 00:31:47,725
Speaker 1: gated community in Lakeland. I mean that's all pretty conservative. Yeah,

565
00:31:47,765 --> 00:31:51,005
Speaker 1: oh well, I mean yeah, after winning seventeen million dollars. Yeah.

566
00:31:51,765 --> 00:31:54,205
Speaker 1: And this is sad because literally from the get go,

567
00:31:54,325 --> 00:31:57,325
Speaker 1: people were taking advantage of him, like his realtor, the

568
00:31:57,365 --> 00:32:00,045
Speaker 1: one who sold him the house, actually sold it for

569
00:32:00,205 --> 00:32:02,485
Speaker 1: way more than what it was worth, and she didn't

570
00:32:02,565 --> 00:32:05,365
Speaker 1: offer him the option for an appraisal for the house

571
00:32:05,645 --> 00:32:08,565
Speaker 1: before he bought it, and so then when the bank

572
00:32:08,685 --> 00:32:11,085
Speaker 1: conducted like the appraisal that they have to do, they

573
00:32:11,085 --> 00:32:13,245
Speaker 1: found out that it was only worth six hundred thousand dollars.

574
00:32:13,845 --> 00:32:16,485
Speaker 1: That's bad. I know, it sucks. And also her name

575
00:32:16,525 --> 00:32:21,045
Speaker 1: was Barbara, which like, okay, that would be like if

576
00:32:21,125 --> 00:32:25,205
Speaker 1: there was a Karen two point out, absolutely absolutely if

577
00:32:25,245 --> 00:32:29,245
Speaker 1: you're a Barbara, don't take this personally. This Barbara just sucks, Okay.

578
00:32:29,645 --> 00:32:35,085
Speaker 1: So Abraham is obviously experiencing frustration because all of these

579
00:32:35,165 --> 00:32:39,005
Speaker 1: vultures are swirling around him and he's like Drake, He's

580
00:32:39,005 --> 00:32:42,045
Speaker 1: all like, you know, no new friends, that's the vibe whatever,

581
00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:44,445
Speaker 1: and he's complaining about how everyone is fake. There is

582
00:32:44,485 --> 00:32:46,565
Speaker 1: literally a video of him saying, I really would like

583
00:32:46,685 --> 00:32:48,645
Speaker 1: my old life back where I could walk the streets

584
00:32:48,645 --> 00:32:50,685
Speaker 1: like a normal person, But I've got people coming up

585
00:32:50,685 --> 00:32:54,525
Speaker 1: to me asking for money instead, Like that is really sad.

586
00:32:55,045 --> 00:32:58,605
Speaker 1: And it's literally recorded that he paid off people's mortgages,

587
00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:01,285
Speaker 1: that he gave strangers thousands of dollars, He paid off

588
00:33:01,285 --> 00:33:04,005
Speaker 1: people's students loans, He gave his friends loans like he

589
00:33:04,165 --> 00:33:07,125
Speaker 1: was just not pressed about it, he just wanted to

590
00:33:08,005 --> 00:33:11,005
Speaker 1: give because I don't know, he seemed like a simple guy,

591
00:33:11,045 --> 00:33:14,445
Speaker 1: like he just didn't really care about money in that way,

592
00:33:14,485 --> 00:33:17,405
Speaker 1: I guess. But the problem is that because he was

593
00:33:17,565 --> 00:33:21,085
Speaker 1: loaning out slash giving so much money, if people didn't

594
00:33:21,085 --> 00:33:22,765
Speaker 1: pay him back, they would actually avoid him, so he

595
00:33:22,845 --> 00:33:28,285
Speaker 1: ended up being very isolated. I know. No, So incomes

596
00:33:28,685 --> 00:33:33,205
Speaker 1: d d. More. She's this woman living in Tampa, Yes, Floridian.

597
00:33:33,285 --> 00:33:36,045
Speaker 1: This is a very Floridian story, and she grew up

598
00:33:36,085 --> 00:33:38,045
Speaker 1: kind of lower middle class. It seems like her family

599
00:33:38,045 --> 00:33:41,205
Speaker 1: struggled a little bit and she became a nurse's assistant,

600
00:33:41,325 --> 00:33:43,365
Speaker 1: but it seems like she was never really satisfied, Like

601
00:33:43,405 --> 00:33:47,365
Speaker 1: she had a husband, you know, child, good job, but

602
00:33:47,445 --> 00:33:50,085
Speaker 1: she always wanted more and that kind of landed her

603
00:33:50,085 --> 00:33:52,405
Speaker 1: in some trouble Initially, like from nineteen nine five to

604
00:33:52,485 --> 00:33:54,365
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, she was kind of caught doing

605
00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:57,085
Speaker 1: small things like shoplifting, writing bad checks, and doing kind

606
00:33:57,085 --> 00:33:59,645
Speaker 1: of shady shit, but she was never there were never

607
00:33:59,685 --> 00:34:02,885
Speaker 1: any charges like press. Basically, she just kind of got

608
00:34:02,885 --> 00:34:05,725
Speaker 1: away with a paid some fines. Okay. So, as I said,

609
00:34:05,765 --> 00:34:07,925
Speaker 1: she had a relatively good job. It was at this

610
00:34:08,005 --> 00:34:10,765
Speaker 1: healthcare facility. It seems like it was this like nursing

611
00:34:10,845 --> 00:34:14,285
Speaker 1: staffing agency called Arcadia Healthcare, and she thrived and she

612
00:34:14,405 --> 00:34:16,685
Speaker 1: rose up the ranks very quickly, but she was very

613
00:34:16,685 --> 00:34:20,245
Speaker 1: dissatisfied still. She wanted more, and at the time she

614
00:34:20,285 --> 00:34:23,725
Speaker 1: was living this really lavish lifestyle that did not coincide

615
00:34:23,765 --> 00:34:27,125
Speaker 1: with her salary. Basically, she even got this like very

616
00:34:27,125 --> 00:34:29,885
Speaker 1: fancy car and she couldn't pay for it. And then actually,

617
00:34:30,045 --> 00:34:32,085
Speaker 1: after missing lots of payments and being told by the

618
00:34:32,085 --> 00:34:33,605
Speaker 1: bank that they were basically going to take her car,

619
00:34:34,365 --> 00:34:36,845
Speaker 1: she filed a police report saying she was kidnapped by

620
00:34:36,885 --> 00:34:41,125
Speaker 1: two Mexicans. Literally, she says a Mexicans, and she apparently

621
00:34:41,165 --> 00:34:43,925
Speaker 1: had her wrists and feet tied, and that her car

622
00:34:44,005 --> 00:34:47,445
Speaker 1: was actually stolen by them. Obviously, the story is not

623
00:34:47,485 --> 00:34:49,525
Speaker 1: even close to true. She paid a friend five hundred

624
00:34:49,565 --> 00:34:51,645
Speaker 1: dollars to keep her car, the car that was going

625
00:34:51,685 --> 00:34:53,805
Speaker 1: to be taken by the bank, in his garage so

626
00:34:53,805 --> 00:34:56,925
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be repossessed. And then she paid another friend

627
00:34:57,005 --> 00:35:00,125
Speaker 1: to drop her off in a random location with her wrists,

628
00:35:00,445 --> 00:35:02,765
Speaker 1: her wrists and her feet tied and was and just

629
00:35:02,925 --> 00:35:05,125
Speaker 1: was like, what's the location where some Mexicans would drop

630
00:35:05,125 --> 00:35:07,245
Speaker 1: me off? Basic is the way that she's talked, which

631
00:35:07,245 --> 00:35:10,405
Speaker 1: is so gross. Yeah, and then like, yeah, she's a

632
00:35:10,445 --> 00:35:13,005
Speaker 1: mess and gross and terrible. She was also caught embezzling

633
00:35:13,125 --> 00:35:16,565
Speaker 1: Arcadia Healthcare, but honestly, that's literally such a convoluted story,

634
00:35:16,645 --> 00:35:19,405
Speaker 1: we're not even getting into it. Basically, she's that kind

635
00:35:19,445 --> 00:35:22,605
Speaker 1: of person and she's a con artist, right, Yeah, and

636
00:35:22,685 --> 00:35:25,045
Speaker 1: she didn't If she had just gone with a Nissan

637
00:35:25,125 --> 00:35:27,485
Speaker 1: Altima as well, maybe she would have, you know, it

638
00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:30,525
Speaker 1: would have been okay, precisely no, but she needed her big,

639
00:35:30,565 --> 00:35:36,245
Speaker 1: fancy car. Okay. So this woman seeks Abraham out. She

640
00:35:36,365 --> 00:35:39,365
Speaker 1: ends up meeting Barbara, this terrible realtor at a small

641
00:35:39,405 --> 00:35:42,805
Speaker 1: business conference, and Dedia is like, who is this person

642
00:35:42,845 --> 00:35:45,765
Speaker 1: that you're talking about? Barbara? And Barbara's like, oh my gosh,

643
00:35:45,805 --> 00:35:52,125
Speaker 1: Abraham Shakespeare, he's amazing, and DEDI introduces herself to Abraham.

644
00:35:52,165 --> 00:35:54,805
Speaker 1: She like hunts him down, basically saying she's a writer

645
00:35:54,925 --> 00:35:57,845
Speaker 1: in a business and a very successful businesswoman, and that

646
00:35:57,925 --> 00:36:00,805
Speaker 1: she wants to write a book about him. Now they

647
00:36:00,845 --> 00:36:04,045
Speaker 1: become close because it seems like he didn't really have

648
00:36:04,165 --> 00:36:06,405
Speaker 1: anyone at the time, like I said, he was isolated,

649
00:36:06,685 --> 00:36:08,885
Speaker 1: and so they becomes super close and he begins to

650
00:36:08,885 --> 00:36:11,845
Speaker 1: trust her, and she says, oh, I wanted to write

651
00:36:11,845 --> 00:36:13,725
Speaker 1: a book about you, but now I see you need

652
00:36:13,805 --> 00:36:19,805
Speaker 1: help managing your money. Okay, wow, Okay, so writers aren't

653
00:36:19,805 --> 00:36:23,445
Speaker 1: good at managing their money. First of all, that's money.

654
00:36:24,605 --> 00:36:27,085
Speaker 1: So he begins to trust her, and she's like, you

655
00:36:27,125 --> 00:36:29,445
Speaker 1: need help, and this is pretty bad, but it kind

656
00:36:29,445 --> 00:36:32,325
Speaker 1: of gets worse, kind of it gets very worse. She

657
00:36:32,445 --> 00:36:35,445
Speaker 1: changes the titles of his house, of his car, of

658
00:36:35,525 --> 00:36:38,685
Speaker 1: his possessions, of his loans that he loaned out to

659
00:36:38,765 --> 00:36:41,085
Speaker 1: people to be in her name. And when she does

660
00:36:41,165 --> 00:36:43,725
Speaker 1: is she creates an LLC under his name, but he

661
00:36:43,765 --> 00:36:46,565
Speaker 1: has no power over it. It still like he doesn't know. Yeah,

662
00:36:47,365 --> 00:36:49,965
Speaker 1: he knows, he knows, and he trusts her. I don't

663
00:36:49,965 --> 00:36:53,205
Speaker 1: know he's just like, I think he felt so overwhelmed

664
00:36:53,245 --> 00:36:55,005
Speaker 1: by the money that he's like, oh yeah, this helpful

665
00:36:55,045 --> 00:36:57,925
Speaker 1: business lady will help me manage it. Okay, Oh no,

666
00:36:58,605 --> 00:37:01,685
Speaker 1: it's a mess. She opens a bank account for him,

667
00:37:01,725 --> 00:37:05,605
Speaker 1: but she controls it. She ends up literally controlling everything,

668
00:37:05,645 --> 00:37:08,245
Speaker 1: like it all went under Dedi's name, and he gets

669
00:37:08,285 --> 00:37:11,965
Speaker 1: just totally played. Now, as I said, it's important to

670
00:37:12,005 --> 00:37:14,165
Speaker 1: note that the loans that he had loaned to his

671
00:37:14,245 --> 00:37:18,285
Speaker 1: friends were also under Dedi's name. Because incomes this guy

672
00:37:18,605 --> 00:37:21,285
Speaker 1: called Greg. He's a friend of Abraham's. Actually he gave

673
00:37:21,325 --> 00:37:23,725
Speaker 1: Abraham work when he had nothing. I think they met.

674
00:37:23,765 --> 00:37:26,645
Speaker 1: He was a barbershop owner, and so he would give

675
00:37:26,685 --> 00:37:29,605
Speaker 1: Abraham on jobs at the barbershop and just help him out.

676
00:37:30,045 --> 00:37:32,885
Speaker 1: And he needed a loan, and so Abraham was like,

677
00:37:32,885 --> 00:37:36,125
Speaker 1: of course, dude, like here, and the collateral for that

678
00:37:36,245 --> 00:37:40,805
Speaker 1: loan was Greg's mother's house. Okay. So Greg was paying

679
00:37:40,845 --> 00:37:45,085
Speaker 1: Abraham back, and since DEDI was controlling all of Abraham's expenses,

680
00:37:45,525 --> 00:37:49,765
Speaker 1: Greg was paying dd back basically, so Ded's handling the

681
00:37:49,765 --> 00:37:52,445
Speaker 1: payments and tells Greg that Abraham is on a three

682
00:37:52,485 --> 00:37:57,885
Speaker 1: week cruise. Okay, fine. Then some time passes and Greg's

683
00:37:57,925 --> 00:38:00,765
Speaker 1: mom gets a foreclosure and notice in the mail from

684
00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:03,445
Speaker 1: Ded's company saying that Greg hasn't been paying the debt,

685
00:38:03,485 --> 00:38:05,445
Speaker 1: which is not true. Greg has been paying the debt

686
00:38:05,525 --> 00:38:10,285
Speaker 1: to d No. So Greg asks Dedi, Hey, what the

687
00:38:10,325 --> 00:38:14,605
Speaker 1: fuck is up? And she's like, oh, Abraham is on

688
00:38:14,645 --> 00:38:16,845
Speaker 1: a cruise. He's not communicating with people. You have to

689
00:38:16,885 --> 00:38:20,165
Speaker 1: go through me, like he's texting me to help manage

690
00:38:20,165 --> 00:38:23,485
Speaker 1: his money, blah blah, but he doesn't want to be bothered. Okay.

691
00:38:24,045 --> 00:38:28,405
Speaker 1: Now Greg texts Abraham because what is going on? He

692
00:38:28,445 --> 00:38:30,565
Speaker 1: needs to talk to him, and this is already weird.

693
00:38:30,605 --> 00:38:33,845
Speaker 1: Theddy said that Abraham was texting because none of his

694
00:38:33,925 --> 00:38:38,205
Speaker 1: friends have ever received a text from Abraham before. Abraham

695
00:38:38,445 --> 00:38:42,485
Speaker 1: is illiterate because he dropped out in seventh grade basically,

696
00:38:42,525 --> 00:38:45,085
Speaker 1: and he would rather just call people. And it was

697
00:38:45,165 --> 00:38:51,125
Speaker 1: just very uncommon for Abraham basically, so sketchy exactly. So

698
00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:54,525
Speaker 1: Greg texts him and Abraham replies, mind you, he's on

699
00:38:54,565 --> 00:38:58,205
Speaker 1: a cruise, So like, okay, whatever, and he replies and

700
00:38:58,285 --> 00:39:01,565
Speaker 1: he just doesn't sound like himself. Also, this is important

701
00:39:01,565 --> 00:39:05,405
Speaker 1: to note. Dedi is a very tall, blonde, white woman.

702
00:39:05,885 --> 00:39:09,045
Speaker 1: Abraham and most of his friends around him are black.

703
00:39:09,325 --> 00:39:13,125
Speaker 1: And I say this because one, Greg was like, why

704
00:39:13,165 --> 00:39:15,725
Speaker 1: the fuck is Abraham trusting this white lady so easily,

705
00:39:15,885 --> 00:39:20,485
Speaker 1: which was already sketchy. Two the text that Greg got

706
00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:24,565
Speaker 1: from Abraham included the N word and apparently with a

707
00:39:24,645 --> 00:39:28,845
Speaker 1: hard R. And Greg is like, no black man would

708
00:39:28,845 --> 00:39:31,765
Speaker 1: text like that. Sorry, Like that's like I that was

709
00:39:31,805 --> 00:39:35,685
Speaker 1: just not normal basically. So Greg actually and Greg is

710
00:39:35,725 --> 00:39:37,765
Speaker 1: kind of the star of the story in a really

711
00:39:38,605 --> 00:39:42,085
Speaker 1: just cunning way. Basically, it's very smart. So Greg has

712
00:39:42,085 --> 00:39:46,245
Speaker 1: his wife text Abraham that she loves Abraham and like,

713
00:39:46,285 --> 00:39:48,765
Speaker 1: oh I miss you baby, like come home whatever, to

714
00:39:48,805 --> 00:39:51,525
Speaker 1: test out if it's Abraham, because Abraham knew Greg's wife

715
00:39:51,565 --> 00:39:54,245
Speaker 1: and they did not have a thing, and he would

716
00:39:54,245 --> 00:39:57,365
Speaker 1: recognize the number. So if Greg's wife was to say that,

717
00:39:57,405 --> 00:40:00,885
Speaker 1: Abraham would probably say like, okay, no, well why are

718
00:40:00,885 --> 00:40:05,485
Speaker 1: you saying this basically, But what Abraham actually replies is oh,

719
00:40:05,885 --> 00:40:08,845
Speaker 1: I love you too, I'll be home soon. So Greg

720
00:40:09,125 --> 00:40:13,525
Speaker 1: knows something is happening and it's weird. I really like that.

721
00:40:13,525 --> 00:40:17,725
Speaker 1: That's a very that was very smart. Absolutely, yes. So

722
00:40:18,125 --> 00:40:20,845
Speaker 1: a couple of lies continue from Dedy. Greg pushes to

723
00:40:20,845 --> 00:40:23,925
Speaker 1: figure out the foreclosure thing. Because that's like priority number one.

724
00:40:23,965 --> 00:40:26,285
Speaker 1: He does not want to lose his mother's home, Like

725
00:40:26,325 --> 00:40:29,485
Speaker 1: that is not okay, and she eventually like figures it

726
00:40:29,485 --> 00:40:31,285
Speaker 1: out for him. She takes the papers to prove that

727
00:40:31,325 --> 00:40:33,965
Speaker 1: his mom's home won't be foreclosed. And then he asks

728
00:40:33,965 --> 00:40:37,245
Speaker 1: about Abraham and she's like, oh, yeah, he's been taking

729
00:40:37,285 --> 00:40:40,085
Speaker 1: literacy classes and he has a new girlfriend who's writing

730
00:40:40,125 --> 00:40:42,205
Speaker 1: his text for him, and he's on another vacation and

731
00:40:42,285 --> 00:40:46,525
Speaker 1: so he's fine, Okay, I want to know. I hate

732
00:40:46,525 --> 00:40:50,245
Speaker 1: this ddy person. She's honestly the worst. Yeah, And I

733
00:40:50,285 --> 00:40:54,285
Speaker 1: say this also because more people started asking about Abraham's whereabouts,

734
00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:56,005
Speaker 1: like it's been a couple of weeks at this point,

735
00:40:56,285 --> 00:41:01,845
Speaker 1: and she'd say random and honestly quite racist lies like oh,

736
00:41:02,005 --> 00:41:05,125
Speaker 1: he assaulted a prostitute and he's liked, you know, kind

737
00:41:05,125 --> 00:41:08,405
Speaker 1: of hiding out or whatever, or oh he's in Tahiti

738
00:41:08,445 --> 00:41:10,645
Speaker 1: and there was an earthquake, or oh he got HIV

739
00:41:10,765 --> 00:41:14,325
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, Like what the fuck? Like what? She

740
00:41:14,845 --> 00:41:17,925
Speaker 1: just keeps lying. She's she's a con artist, she's a liar.

741
00:41:17,965 --> 00:41:20,965
Speaker 1: She's not very good at it, clearly, but whatever. So

742
00:41:21,045 --> 00:41:24,445
Speaker 1: and also she's like ruining his reputation in the process,

743
00:41:24,485 --> 00:41:29,085
Speaker 1: which is really gross. I hate her. M yeah, she's

744
00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:31,885
Speaker 1: ass like a con artist. She's like a con intern

745
00:41:32,005 --> 00:41:37,485
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, she is a con joke for so

746
00:41:37,485 --> 00:41:42,325
Speaker 1: So finally one of Abraham's cousins files a missing person's

747
00:41:42,365 --> 00:41:45,325
Speaker 1: report because this is strange, this is weird now. Cops

748
00:41:45,405 --> 00:41:49,405
Speaker 1: immediately find Deity suspicious. Obviously at this point, she was

749
00:41:49,485 --> 00:41:52,285
Speaker 1: living in Abraham's house that he bought with her young

750
00:41:52,365 --> 00:41:55,605
Speaker 1: boyfriend and then also his mother Patricia. I don't know,

751
00:41:56,045 --> 00:41:59,045
Speaker 1: like this is just also messy and gross, and I can't.

752
00:41:59,685 --> 00:42:03,805
Speaker 1: So they interview her and she just keeps concocting more

753
00:42:03,845 --> 00:42:06,805
Speaker 1: elaborate stories with the detective. But she knows like she's

754
00:42:06,805 --> 00:42:09,125
Speaker 1: in a mess, and she tries bribing people to get

755
00:42:09,165 --> 00:42:11,445
Speaker 1: her out of it. She tries bribing Abraham's ex girlfriend

756
00:42:11,485 --> 00:42:13,565
Speaker 1: who didn't take the bait and told the police about it,

757
00:42:13,965 --> 00:42:17,325
Speaker 1: and she ends up trying to bribe Greg actually, and

758
00:42:17,405 --> 00:42:20,445
Speaker 1: that's a whole other story that kind of gets Greg

759
00:42:20,445 --> 00:42:22,765
Speaker 1: connected to the police, and she's starting to collaborate with

760
00:42:22,765 --> 00:42:26,125
Speaker 1: the police, but first she gets interrogated by detectives and

761
00:42:26,125 --> 00:42:28,605
Speaker 1: a homicide detective, and they finally have a search warrant

762
00:42:28,645 --> 00:42:31,765
Speaker 1: for Abraham's house where Dede as I said, was living

763
00:42:31,805 --> 00:42:34,445
Speaker 1: in and the detectives are putting pressure on her, and

764
00:42:34,525 --> 00:42:38,125
Speaker 1: then she makes up another thing. She says that Abraham

765
00:42:38,605 --> 00:42:42,885
Speaker 1: since the vacation, has been getting HIV treatment overseas. Okay,

766
00:42:43,285 --> 00:42:45,805
Speaker 1: and that's apparently what he's been telling people, but really

767
00:42:45,845 --> 00:42:47,765
Speaker 1: there's actually a video of him having sex with a

768
00:42:47,805 --> 00:42:50,645
Speaker 1: fourteen year old girl and he's actually laying low because

769
00:42:50,685 --> 00:42:53,045
Speaker 1: of that because he's scared that's gonna come out and

770
00:42:53,045 --> 00:42:56,285
Speaker 1: then he's gonna have to go to jail. And he's like,

771
00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:59,285
Speaker 1: it's just it's just bad. It's just bad. And then

772
00:42:59,325 --> 00:43:02,325
Speaker 1: she like in the video, she's like crying and she's like,

773
00:43:02,485 --> 00:43:05,365
Speaker 1: my life is really being affected by Abraham's mess. My

774
00:43:05,725 --> 00:43:08,005
Speaker 1: mom doesn't want to come to my Thanksgiving like dinner,

775
00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:10,805
Speaker 1: Like the video is so ridiculous. She's in full tears

776
00:43:11,005 --> 00:43:13,885
Speaker 1: and she's such a manipulator and the detective, the detective

777
00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:15,765
Speaker 1: looks at her and he's like, I don't believe a

778
00:43:15,805 --> 00:43:18,325
Speaker 1: word that you're saying, like all you know, Southern Ago.

779
00:43:18,805 --> 00:43:21,565
Speaker 1: And actually the other detective, the one that was kind

780
00:43:21,605 --> 00:43:24,325
Speaker 1: of playing I think it was like a good cop,

781
00:43:24,365 --> 00:43:28,365
Speaker 1: bad cop thing whatever. Apparently later after they interrogated him

782
00:43:28,485 --> 00:43:30,485
Speaker 1: and she was talking to him like outside of the

783
00:43:30,525 --> 00:43:34,485
Speaker 1: station or whatever, she was like seducing him and trying

784
00:43:34,525 --> 00:43:37,365
Speaker 1: to get him to like be on her side and like, oh,

785
00:43:37,445 --> 00:43:39,445
Speaker 1: we should go get a hotel room or whatever. Like

786
00:43:39,845 --> 00:43:46,125
Speaker 1: what a crazy person. Ridiculous, just absolutely ridiculous. So she

787
00:43:46,245 --> 00:43:49,405
Speaker 1: continues bribing people. She paid someone actually to call Abraham's

788
00:43:49,445 --> 00:43:52,725
Speaker 1: mother and pretend to be Abraham, but his mom was like,

789
00:43:52,845 --> 00:43:55,645
Speaker 1: that's not him at all. So she just keeps thinking

790
00:43:55,845 --> 00:43:58,325
Speaker 1: up lies like it's insane. So we're going to fast

791
00:43:58,365 --> 00:44:02,805
Speaker 1: forward a teeny bit now. As I said, Dedy bribed

792
00:44:02,965 --> 00:44:06,965
Speaker 1: Greg into doing something that eventually led Greg to collaborate

793
00:44:07,125 --> 00:44:10,325
Speaker 1: with the police. And it's actually his idea to get

794
00:44:10,445 --> 00:44:12,925
Speaker 1: Ded into his car and see if she'll confess, and

795
00:44:12,965 --> 00:44:15,885
Speaker 1: he's wearing a wire, so he tells her, oh, like

796
00:44:15,925 --> 00:44:18,205
Speaker 1: I support you, blah blah blah. And it seems like

797
00:44:18,245 --> 00:44:22,245
Speaker 1: whenever people were nice to Deity or like helpful in

798
00:44:22,285 --> 00:44:26,565
Speaker 1: any way, she would just immediately latch onto that, especially

799
00:44:26,685 --> 00:44:31,805
Speaker 1: men like she would use her body and her charisma.

800
00:44:32,125 --> 00:44:34,245
Speaker 1: She must have had charisma, I mean or else, like

801
00:44:34,325 --> 00:44:36,205
Speaker 1: you know, she wouldn't be doing all this crazy stuff.

802
00:44:36,245 --> 00:44:42,485
Speaker 1: But is she a looker anyway, So he's like being

803
00:44:42,485 --> 00:44:45,285
Speaker 1: really nice to her, and she literally throws herself onto

804
00:44:45,445 --> 00:44:46,845
Speaker 1: him and starts like trying to make out with him

805
00:44:46,845 --> 00:44:48,165
Speaker 1: and all this sort of stuff. So he rejects her

806
00:44:48,165 --> 00:44:50,845
Speaker 1: and she starts crying, which is apparently what she always

807
00:44:50,845 --> 00:44:54,445
Speaker 1: does when she is in an uncomfortable position or gets

808
00:44:54,445 --> 00:44:57,925
Speaker 1: called out or whatever to get her way. Yeah, victimizes

809
00:44:57,965 --> 00:45:02,765
Speaker 1: herself essentially, and then they end up just he ends

810
00:45:02,845 --> 00:45:04,885
Speaker 1: up being like, listen, I support you, blah blah, will

811
00:45:04,925 --> 00:45:06,645
Speaker 1: get out of this to He also was a little

812
00:45:06,645 --> 00:45:09,685
Speaker 1: bit nervous because he thought that she had pushed herself

813
00:45:09,685 --> 00:45:12,205
Speaker 1: onto him to check if he had a wire, which

814
00:45:12,925 --> 00:45:14,325
Speaker 1: I don't think she's smart enough to do that, to

815
00:45:14,325 --> 00:45:19,125
Speaker 1: be honest, but it's a possibility. So she leaves a car,

816
00:45:19,245 --> 00:45:21,645
Speaker 1: does not confess, and he's nervous that she might have

817
00:45:21,645 --> 00:45:25,165
Speaker 1: found his wire. So she actually concoct this. Apparently he

818
00:45:25,245 --> 00:45:27,525
Speaker 1: carried a red Bull can around him always like he

819
00:45:27,565 --> 00:45:31,125
Speaker 1: was addicted to red bull, and he made a false

820
00:45:31,245 --> 00:45:33,685
Speaker 1: bottom on a red Bull can and then install the

821
00:45:33,725 --> 00:45:38,845
Speaker 1: listening device into it. And so DEDI asks Greg later

822
00:45:38,965 --> 00:45:42,045
Speaker 1: after he made this red Bull thing to meet her

823
00:45:42,325 --> 00:45:45,765
Speaker 1: in her car, and he takes the little red bull can,

824
00:45:45,805 --> 00:45:48,405
Speaker 1: which I think is just so funny. She essentially tells

825
00:45:48,445 --> 00:45:49,605
Speaker 1: him that the two of them need to get a

826
00:45:49,645 --> 00:45:52,965
Speaker 1: hotel room to prepaid phones, because apparently she realizes that

827
00:45:53,005 --> 00:45:56,445
Speaker 1: they're starting to be listened to and watched and to

828
00:45:56,525 --> 00:46:01,005
Speaker 1: blame anything on a drug dealer they know called Ronald. Now,

829
00:46:01,525 --> 00:46:04,045
Speaker 1: there was never any Ronald. She was making it up,

830
00:46:04,045 --> 00:46:06,365
Speaker 1: and I think she was just like trying to convince

831
00:46:06,725 --> 00:46:10,485
Speaker 1: Greg to collaborate with her. Greg is collaborating with the police,

832
00:46:10,485 --> 00:46:13,565
Speaker 1: but he's like, yeah, absolutely, So he goes into the

833
00:46:13,565 --> 00:46:16,645
Speaker 1: hotel room that he got for the two of them, enters,

834
00:46:16,965 --> 00:46:19,885
Speaker 1: and she is like in a full hasmat suit style

835
00:46:20,005 --> 00:46:24,085
Speaker 1: situation and hands him one and takes a brand new

836
00:46:24,165 --> 00:46:27,485
Speaker 1: laptop out of from under the bed and a printer

837
00:46:27,805 --> 00:46:30,245
Speaker 1: brand new, both brand new, and she's like, we're going

838
00:46:30,325 --> 00:46:32,125
Speaker 1: to type up a letter that's going to sound like

839
00:46:32,165 --> 00:46:38,605
Speaker 1: Abraham so that way Abraham's mom will think that he's okay, okay.

840
00:46:38,325 --> 00:46:43,165
Speaker 1: So she says that to Greg, Okay, totally normal, and

841
00:46:43,205 --> 00:46:46,445
Speaker 1: there matus that's really yeah, because she didn't want any

842
00:46:46,525 --> 00:46:50,965
Speaker 1: evidence to be linked to them, right, No, DNA, so

843
00:46:51,125 --> 00:46:57,165
Speaker 1: you need the whole suite, of course. So they type

844
00:46:57,205 --> 00:47:00,445
Speaker 1: up the letter and then they send it to Abraham's mom.

845
00:47:00,525 --> 00:47:04,325
Speaker 1: Now this is like really gross because Abraham's mom is

846
00:47:04,325 --> 00:47:06,925
Speaker 1: already going through enough of obviously, and then also in

847
00:47:06,965 --> 00:47:10,925
Speaker 1: the letter, Abraham's kind of addict to her like just

848
00:47:11,005 --> 00:47:12,925
Speaker 1: not being nice, like, oh, I can't believe you couldn't

849
00:47:12,925 --> 00:47:15,045
Speaker 1: recognize your own son's voice. I mean a lot of

850
00:47:15,085 --> 00:47:17,405
Speaker 1: trouble blah blah blah whatever, but like I'll let you

851
00:47:17,445 --> 00:47:20,285
Speaker 1: know when I'm okay, stop collaborating the police, like just

852
00:47:20,365 --> 00:47:24,925
Speaker 1: being manipulative and not okay. And Abraham's mom receives the

853
00:47:25,005 --> 00:47:27,645
Speaker 1: letter and is like, this is not my son. There

854
00:47:27,725 --> 00:47:32,125
Speaker 1: is something really bad going on, takes it to the police. Okay.

855
00:47:32,965 --> 00:47:35,005
Speaker 1: The police and Greg are trying to figure out how

856
00:47:35,165 --> 00:47:38,045
Speaker 1: to pin d d down because they know at this

857
00:47:38,125 --> 00:47:40,605
Speaker 1: point Deed did it. Like she's trying to cover up

858
00:47:40,845 --> 00:47:43,885
Speaker 1: her tracks. It's a mess. It's bad. Greg is super

859
00:47:43,925 --> 00:47:46,565
Speaker 1: in with her now because no one knows where Abraham

860
00:47:47,005 --> 00:47:49,845
Speaker 1: is at this point or like do they know he's dead.

861
00:47:49,965 --> 00:47:54,485
Speaker 1: The detectives suspect that Abraham is dead. At first, it

862
00:47:54,525 --> 00:47:58,405
Speaker 1: was just an investigation, and then they interviewed her multiple

863
00:47:58,445 --> 00:48:02,565
Speaker 1: times throughout the process. They had a homicide detective come

864
00:48:02,605 --> 00:48:05,685
Speaker 1: in because they suspected that he was dead. There was

865
00:48:05,685 --> 00:48:08,725
Speaker 1: no evidence of him because all of her friends and

866
00:48:08,805 --> 00:48:11,325
Speaker 1: family were like, the texts are off, the texts are

867
00:48:11,405 --> 00:48:15,165
Speaker 1: not him. And then she was just acting radically too,

868
00:48:15,325 --> 00:48:18,965
Speaker 1: like she would call the police station every day, like

869
00:48:19,085 --> 00:48:22,645
Speaker 1: for multiple weeks to tip off more information to the

870
00:48:22,645 --> 00:48:26,765
Speaker 1: police basically and to act like she was collaborating. So

871
00:48:26,805 --> 00:48:30,365
Speaker 1: they had their suspicions. So Greg and and and the

872
00:48:30,365 --> 00:48:33,925
Speaker 1: police are trying to figure out how to figure out,

873
00:48:34,445 --> 00:48:37,725
Speaker 1: you know, if Abraham is dead, that deed did it.

874
00:48:38,045 --> 00:48:41,365
Speaker 1: So Greg is like, hey, Ded, I have a plan.

875
00:48:42,245 --> 00:48:44,645
Speaker 1: D's like yeah. With Greg's like, I have a cousin

876
00:48:44,685 --> 00:48:47,285
Speaker 1: who's going to jail already, Like he's he literally is

877
00:48:47,285 --> 00:48:50,165
Speaker 1: going to jail them the next few weeks. He's already

878
00:48:50,165 --> 00:48:52,205
Speaker 1: being charged whatever, blah blah, and I think he's just

879
00:48:52,205 --> 00:48:55,165
Speaker 1: out on bail something along those lines. The cousin was

880
00:48:55,205 --> 00:49:00,045
Speaker 1: actually an undercover cop. But Greg is like, he can

881
00:49:00,285 --> 00:49:05,325
Speaker 1: take the fall for Abraham and we can say that

882
00:49:05,845 --> 00:49:10,125
Speaker 1: Abraham is dead, right and that way they'll stop looking

883
00:49:10,165 --> 00:49:11,685
Speaker 1: for him and you and I will be off the

884
00:49:11,725 --> 00:49:16,525
Speaker 1: hook did. He's like that's a great idea. Actually, Abraham

885
00:49:16,725 --> 00:49:20,805
Speaker 1: is dead, some drug dealers killed him. What do you need?

886
00:49:21,325 --> 00:49:25,725
Speaker 1: And then Greg is like what m Yeah, he is

887
00:49:25,765 --> 00:49:29,245
Speaker 1: like ron is dead. Yeah, He's like Ronald did it

888
00:49:29,285 --> 00:49:31,405
Speaker 1: blah blah him and his drug dealers, which meant you again,

889
00:49:31,525 --> 00:49:37,405
Speaker 1: Ronald is a fictitious character. So she tells Greg this

890
00:49:37,565 --> 00:49:40,165
Speaker 1: and Greg is like, well, he's just gonna need evidence

891
00:49:40,445 --> 00:49:44,085
Speaker 1: to be connected to Abraham's death and also probably a

892
00:49:44,085 --> 00:49:50,565
Speaker 1: body DEDI is like, um, would the murder weapon be helpful? Peez?

893
00:49:51,165 --> 00:49:54,165
Speaker 1: Greg is like yeah, the murder weapon was idiot yep.

894
00:49:54,485 --> 00:49:57,485
Speaker 1: So she and then and then Greg is like, also,

895
00:49:58,485 --> 00:50:00,565
Speaker 1: I'll just have you meet with my cousin and see

896
00:50:00,645 --> 00:50:03,405
Speaker 1: like how this can go. So they meet in a car.

897
00:50:03,565 --> 00:50:05,565
Speaker 1: These are this is like so like Maffia, Like they

898
00:50:05,605 --> 00:50:07,365
Speaker 1: all just meet in cars and like drive around parking

899
00:50:07,365 --> 00:50:10,365
Speaker 1: lots in Lakeland, Florida. It's just ridiculous. So they meet

900
00:50:10,405 --> 00:50:14,765
Speaker 1: in a car, the cousin thundercover cop and Deed and

901
00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:17,485
Speaker 1: they talk and the cousin's like, I'm gonna need a body.

902
00:50:17,685 --> 00:50:20,525
Speaker 1: I can't just have a murder weapon whatever, blah blah.

903
00:50:20,645 --> 00:50:22,325
Speaker 1: So Deedy's like, okay, let me talk to the drug

904
00:50:22,365 --> 00:50:24,245
Speaker 1: dealers and see what I can do. So she goes

905
00:50:24,285 --> 00:50:26,725
Speaker 1: and talks to herself. Yeah, she goes and talks to

906
00:50:26,765 --> 00:50:34,005
Speaker 1: herself basically, and she tells Greg, hey, I know where

907
00:50:34,045 --> 00:50:37,405
Speaker 1: the body is, like you know, let's meet up tomorrow,

908
00:50:37,685 --> 00:50:41,005
Speaker 1: figure it out, blah blah. Whatever. It's just it's bad.

909
00:50:41,805 --> 00:50:44,805
Speaker 1: So Greg, at this point now has the murder weapon,

910
00:50:45,325 --> 00:50:47,405
Speaker 1: is about to know where the body is, like Deity

911
00:50:47,525 --> 00:50:50,725
Speaker 1: is about to be pinned down, which is really good

912
00:50:50,805 --> 00:50:53,005
Speaker 1: but also really painful for Greg because this makes it

913
00:50:53,045 --> 00:50:58,045
Speaker 1: official Abraham is in fact dead. So it seems like

914
00:50:58,125 --> 00:51:03,485
Speaker 1: the plan was to dig up Abraham's body and then

915
00:51:03,525 --> 00:51:05,685
Speaker 1: give it to the cousin and he would then go

916
00:51:05,805 --> 00:51:07,925
Speaker 1: bury it so his fingerprints would be all over it

917
00:51:07,965 --> 00:51:12,165
Speaker 1: blah blah, and then turn himself in. So sorry, this

918
00:51:12,245 --> 00:51:15,285
Speaker 1: alleged cousin who was the undercover cop. They were just

919
00:51:15,325 --> 00:51:18,405
Speaker 1: saying like that he was okay with going down for it,

920
00:51:18,925 --> 00:51:22,005
Speaker 1: and she was like okay, yeah, I mean like yeah,

921
00:51:22,045 --> 00:51:24,725
Speaker 1: that's like Greg convinced DEDI that he was okay with

922
00:51:24,885 --> 00:51:27,405
Speaker 1: going down for it for money obviously, so there was

923
00:51:27,445 --> 00:51:29,925
Speaker 1: an exchange. I think he asked for fifty thousand dollars.

924
00:51:30,165 --> 00:51:32,445
Speaker 1: But what good is fifty thousand dollars if you're in jail.

925
00:51:32,805 --> 00:51:34,765
Speaker 1: I mean you can put it in like you know,

926
00:51:35,085 --> 00:51:37,885
Speaker 1: family's account or like wife's accourd I don't know, I

927
00:51:37,885 --> 00:51:40,525
Speaker 1: don't know anyway, I know it's messy. Well. Also, I

928
00:51:40,525 --> 00:51:44,965
Speaker 1: think Ded's a little bit stupid. Yeah, and I say

929
00:51:45,005 --> 00:51:48,325
Speaker 1: this because like the murder weapon was registered under her name,

930
00:51:49,365 --> 00:51:52,805
Speaker 1: So even if like, yeah, it was a gun, Yeah

931
00:51:52,885 --> 00:51:56,925
Speaker 1: it was a gun exactly. So like even if they

932
00:51:56,965 --> 00:52:00,445
Speaker 1: took the murder weapon, DEDI was like, we'll lie and

933
00:52:00,485 --> 00:52:02,485
Speaker 1: we'll say that your cousin broke into my house and

934
00:52:02,565 --> 00:52:07,445
Speaker 1: took my gun and then killed Abraham. It just gets

935
00:52:07,485 --> 00:52:10,765
Speaker 1: weirder and worse and terrible. She's just like making stuff

936
00:52:10,845 --> 00:52:12,805
Speaker 1: up on the fly too. It's literally any of this

937
00:52:12,965 --> 00:52:16,445
Speaker 1: was like fought out for no se no exactly. So

938
00:52:16,485 --> 00:52:20,405
Speaker 1: the plan was for Abraham, I mean, for Greg's cousin

939
00:52:20,685 --> 00:52:23,365
Speaker 1: to dig up the body, right, so they needed tools.

940
00:52:23,525 --> 00:52:25,845
Speaker 1: Greg was like, hey, can you go get you know,

941
00:52:26,165 --> 00:52:31,085
Speaker 1: a shovel, bleach, blah blah whatever, and then DEDI was like, oh, maybe, um,

942
00:52:31,085 --> 00:52:33,125
Speaker 1: he'll just burn the body, Like like maybe we could

943
00:52:33,125 --> 00:52:36,165
Speaker 1: do that, and then this is just a really gross,

944
00:52:36,845 --> 00:52:41,405
Speaker 1: extra tidbit of information. Greg was like, um, okay, yeah,

945
00:52:41,485 --> 00:52:46,485
Speaker 1: get kerosene. And then Dedi was like, in marshmallows, I

946
00:52:46,565 --> 00:52:53,365
Speaker 1: am gusted. I am disgusted anyway, So Greg like had

947
00:52:53,405 --> 00:52:57,565
Speaker 1: to like just grit his teeth and deal with it.

948
00:52:58,165 --> 00:53:02,205
Speaker 1: Disgusting woman, I know, literally, So she gets them all

949
00:53:02,205 --> 00:53:04,445
Speaker 1: of the supplies that they need and then she goes

950
00:53:04,565 --> 00:53:07,525
Speaker 1: and Greg is like, go do something where you'll have

951
00:53:07,565 --> 00:53:10,125
Speaker 1: alibis so that way when we're digging up the body,

952
00:53:10,165 --> 00:53:12,445
Speaker 1: like nothing will happen to you. Obviously, Greg is working

953
00:53:12,485 --> 00:53:15,245
Speaker 1: with the police, so that's not a problem. So Greg

954
00:53:15,285 --> 00:53:19,125
Speaker 1: and his cousin undercover cop go to where Dedi told

955
00:53:19,165 --> 00:53:22,445
Speaker 1: them the body was, which was buried under a concrete

956
00:53:22,445 --> 00:53:27,085
Speaker 1: slab in her slash Abraham's home on like the property.

957
00:53:28,445 --> 00:53:32,525
Speaker 1: Dedy is having dinner with her family and then basically

958
00:53:32,805 --> 00:53:35,645
Speaker 1: Greg calls her and it's like, hey, we have cops

959
00:53:35,645 --> 00:53:38,325
Speaker 1: surrounding us, like you've double crossed us, blah blah whatever,

960
00:53:38,365 --> 00:53:40,445
Speaker 1: and so Dedi is asked to go to the station.

961
00:53:40,765 --> 00:53:43,565
Speaker 1: Greg goes to the station. They find the like they

962
00:53:43,565 --> 00:53:45,805
Speaker 1: already found the body. Cops found of the body whatever.

963
00:53:46,245 --> 00:53:49,125
Speaker 1: They were interrogating deed and Deedy through Greg under the

964
00:53:49,165 --> 00:53:51,245
Speaker 1: bus and was basically like, oh yeah, Greg did it,

965
00:53:51,445 --> 00:53:53,485
Speaker 1: Like I'm so glad you found the murder or whatever,

966
00:53:53,565 --> 00:53:56,085
Speaker 1: blah blah, just a total mess. But then the cops

967
00:53:56,085 --> 00:53:59,565
Speaker 1: were like, Greg is working with us, you are very

968
00:53:59,645 --> 00:54:04,205
Speaker 1: much under arrest and yeah. And then they find Abraham's body,

969
00:54:04,285 --> 00:54:07,645
Speaker 1: which had been all metal stuff had been removed so

970
00:54:07,685 --> 00:54:10,325
Speaker 1: that way, if the metal detector had been used, it

971
00:54:10,365 --> 00:54:14,725
Speaker 1: wouldn't have recognized him. And he had been shot twice

972
00:54:15,645 --> 00:54:19,165
Speaker 1: and yeah, he was buried. It it's just bad. And

973
00:54:19,205 --> 00:54:23,205
Speaker 1: she did it, and and does she go to jail?

974
00:54:23,525 --> 00:54:27,045
Speaker 1: She does, she gets for life and with no pearl,

975
00:54:27,565 --> 00:54:31,325
Speaker 1: she's still in jail. And it is just a really gross,

976
00:54:31,445 --> 00:54:33,765
Speaker 1: terrible mess of a story and a really sad story

977
00:54:34,485 --> 00:54:38,685
Speaker 1: that is that's great. I mean, there are some states

978
00:54:38,805 --> 00:54:42,645
Speaker 1: where you have to disclose if you won the lottery,

979
00:54:42,685 --> 00:54:46,405
Speaker 1: and there's some states where you don't. I assume Florida

980
00:54:46,485 --> 00:54:48,445
Speaker 1: is one of those. I don't, actually I think, yeah,

981
00:54:48,525 --> 00:54:51,405
Speaker 1: I think Florida you have to disclose, which just sucks

982
00:54:51,405 --> 00:54:56,285
Speaker 1: because then you become a target. Yeah, Okay, thank you

983
00:54:56,445 --> 00:55:01,605
Speaker 1: Nika for telling us that wonderfully convoluted story. When we

984
00:55:01,645 --> 00:55:07,325
Speaker 1: come back, I'm going to end everything on a happy note. Okay,

985
00:55:07,725 --> 00:55:10,565
Speaker 1: welcome back everyone. As I mentioned, I'm going to end

986
00:55:10,565 --> 00:55:15,725
Speaker 1: this on a happy note. So yay for that. That's Taylor, No,

987
00:55:15,885 --> 00:55:18,765
Speaker 1: that's so necessary. I felt. I just felt like it

988
00:55:18,805 --> 00:55:22,485
Speaker 1: was necessary because there are so many deaths associated with

989
00:55:22,525 --> 00:55:25,245
Speaker 1: people who've won the lottery. As we were just saying that, like,

990
00:55:25,365 --> 00:55:27,965
Speaker 1: there's some places where you have to disclose if you won,

991
00:55:28,085 --> 00:55:30,845
Speaker 1: and then people come out of the woodworks. A lot

992
00:55:30,925 --> 00:55:34,965
Speaker 1: of people die from or get murdered from winning the

993
00:55:35,045 --> 00:55:38,805
Speaker 1: lottery because people are just so money hungry. But I'm

994
00:55:38,805 --> 00:55:41,765
Speaker 1: going to tell you a story about this man, and

995
00:55:42,245 --> 00:55:45,485
Speaker 1: it is kind of a happy story. So this is

996
00:55:45,485 --> 00:55:49,125
Speaker 1: a story about an Australian man named Bill Morgan. He

997
00:55:49,205 --> 00:55:52,045
Speaker 1: was a truck diver. He lived in a trailer park

998
00:55:52,125 --> 00:55:55,085
Speaker 1: just outside of Melbourne, and then at the age of

999
00:55:55,205 --> 00:55:59,725
Speaker 1: thirty seven, he suffers a very aggressive heart attack. Is

1000
00:55:59,725 --> 00:56:03,045
Speaker 1: that the happy part is the happy part? Yep? He's

1001
00:56:03,685 --> 00:56:07,485
Speaker 1: so basically yep, his heart's ops and he dies. But

1002
00:56:07,565 --> 00:56:13,005
Speaker 1: the medical stopped. Yeah what what? Just just stick with

1003
00:56:13,325 --> 00:56:16,805
Speaker 1: just stick with me, okay, the medical teams he died.

1004
00:56:16,925 --> 00:56:20,405
Speaker 1: His heart stops, yes, but his brain is still is

1005
00:56:20,445 --> 00:56:24,285
Speaker 1: still going forward. It's he's still mentally there, right, so

1006
00:56:24,325 --> 00:56:26,365
Speaker 1: they can wait, what that didn't make any You say

1007
00:56:26,445 --> 00:56:29,805
Speaker 1: he died, he dies, his heart stops, yeah, but he

1008
00:56:30,205 --> 00:56:33,285
Speaker 1: still has harain activity. Like your brain can still function

1009
00:56:33,525 --> 00:56:38,165
Speaker 1: for like seven ish, so if you're lucky more, your

1010
00:56:38,165 --> 00:56:41,085
Speaker 1: brain can still function. So like it's basically your brain

1011
00:56:41,165 --> 00:56:43,405
Speaker 1: and your heart kind of have to stop to be

1012
00:56:43,485 --> 00:56:46,805
Speaker 1: like clinically dead. So he's like, I guess, half dead.

1013
00:56:47,405 --> 00:56:51,125
Speaker 1: So they continue CPR et cetera to try and get

1014
00:56:51,165 --> 00:56:55,485
Speaker 1: his heart going again, and they were successful. After fourteen minutes,

1015
00:56:56,525 --> 00:57:01,085
Speaker 1: his heart just starts pumping again. Okay, but he was

1016
00:57:01,165 --> 00:57:03,925
Speaker 1: left in a coma because that's a very long time

1017
00:57:03,925 --> 00:57:06,325
Speaker 1: to be like dead, Like his brain isn't getting the

1018
00:57:06,325 --> 00:57:11,245
Speaker 1: oxygen right because there's no blood pumping to his brain. Okay,

1019
00:57:11,245 --> 00:57:13,805
Speaker 1: So he's in a coma and doctors are like telling

1020
00:57:13,845 --> 00:57:16,485
Speaker 1: his loved ones like, hey, guys, you should really consider

1021
00:57:16,485 --> 00:57:19,965
Speaker 1: pulling the plug. He was dead for like fourteen minutes.

1022
00:57:20,805 --> 00:57:23,165
Speaker 1: He's if he does wake up, he's not going to

1023
00:57:23,285 --> 00:57:26,965
Speaker 1: be okay, he's gonna be brain dead, vegetable, etc. But

1024
00:57:27,005 --> 00:57:30,405
Speaker 1: they were his family was like, no, we're hoping for

1025
00:57:30,445 --> 00:57:35,045
Speaker 1: the best here. Well, fourteen days later, he wakes up

1026
00:57:35,045 --> 00:57:37,005
Speaker 1: from his coma. He sits up and he is just

1027
00:57:37,085 --> 00:57:40,965
Speaker 1: like good to go. He's like totally fine, So what

1028
00:57:41,405 --> 00:57:47,005
Speaker 1: that's okay? So see happy, he's alive everything. Wow, Yeah,

1029
00:57:47,525 --> 00:57:50,005
Speaker 1: I think they're happy. Now. Yeah. I think, as the

1030
00:57:50,045 --> 00:57:52,885
Speaker 1: podcast like, we're just reacting really strangely the happy story.

1031
00:57:53,245 --> 00:57:59,085
Speaker 1: But continue we're like, it's weird. So as many do

1032
00:57:59,405 --> 00:58:03,285
Speaker 1: with an NDE or I guess a death experience at

1033
00:58:03,325 --> 00:58:06,565
Speaker 1: D as it were, Bill started to evaluate his life.

1034
00:58:06,805 --> 00:58:10,005
Speaker 1: He realized that he was with the woman of his dreams.

1035
00:58:10,165 --> 00:58:13,845
Speaker 1: So he proposes, gets married, and they're happy as a clam.

1036
00:58:14,645 --> 00:58:17,165
Speaker 1: You know, he's just happy to be alive. He's basically

1037
00:58:17,205 --> 00:58:21,165
Speaker 1: realized that, you know, he's been given another opportunity. So

1038
00:58:21,645 --> 00:58:24,725
Speaker 1: one of Bill's just pleasures in life was just getting

1039
00:58:24,725 --> 00:58:27,005
Speaker 1: a five dollars scratch off about it once a week,

1040
00:58:27,285 --> 00:58:28,965
Speaker 1: you know, he was like, this is a fun thing.

1041
00:58:29,805 --> 00:58:34,965
Speaker 1: So one week shortly afterwards, he wins a Toyota Corolla

1042
00:58:36,205 --> 00:58:39,805
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, hell yeah, I want a car.

1043
00:58:39,965 --> 00:58:43,485
Speaker 1: This is amazing, Like I was dead for fourteen minutes

1044
00:58:43,485 --> 00:58:45,605
Speaker 1: and now I have like a free car and all

1045
00:58:45,645 --> 00:58:49,725
Speaker 1: this stuff and now I have a Toyota. Yeah. So

1046
00:58:49,765 --> 00:58:54,125
Speaker 1: he was very excited, very you know, feeling good. The

1047
00:58:54,245 --> 00:58:57,485
Speaker 1: local news they catch wend of it and they're like, hey,

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00:58:57,525 --> 00:59:00,325
Speaker 1: can we do a story on you? And he's like, sure,

1049
00:59:00,405 --> 00:59:02,325
Speaker 1: why not? I mean, it's not that big of a deal.

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00:59:03,165 --> 00:59:05,165
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, it would be great if we

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00:59:05,205 --> 00:59:09,605
Speaker 1: could recreate this moment. So let's go into the convenience

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00:59:09,645 --> 00:59:12,925
Speaker 1: store that you got your original scratch off as Scratcheese

1053
00:59:12,925 --> 00:59:16,285
Speaker 1: as they call him in Australia, scratchaise scratch would you

1054
00:59:16,365 --> 00:59:21,685
Speaker 1: like a scratchaise on the babe? Okay? So like, okay,

1055
00:59:21,765 --> 00:59:24,125
Speaker 1: go get you another lottery ticket. We'll recreate the moment.

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00:59:25,165 --> 00:59:27,045
Speaker 1: So he goes in there and he or he gets

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00:59:27,045 --> 00:59:33,125
Speaker 1: it or whatever and scratching it off and he's like, y'all,

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00:59:33,525 --> 00:59:37,365
Speaker 1: I just won two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and

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00:59:37,485 --> 00:59:39,925
Speaker 1: he's like, I am not joking and he like falls

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00:59:39,965 --> 00:59:42,085
Speaker 1: back onto the counter and he's like, oh my gosh,

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00:59:42,125 --> 00:59:45,045
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have another heart attack. And he this man

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00:59:45,285 --> 00:59:48,565
Speaker 1: literally on camera wins two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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00:59:50,205 --> 00:59:54,245
Speaker 1: So wow. Yeah, So then he calls his wife and

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00:59:54,285 --> 00:59:59,045
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, bib I, literally he does. He's like,

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00:59:59,365 --> 01:00:02,805
Speaker 1: I just won two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and

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01:00:02,925 --> 01:00:04,765
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, I'm going to buy us

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01:00:04,765 --> 01:00:08,205
Speaker 1: a house outright, you know, like so that they could

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01:00:08,245 --> 01:00:10,645
Speaker 1: live the dream as you know they they got out

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01:00:10,645 --> 01:00:14,525
Speaker 1: of the trailer park or whatever. So this man dies

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01:00:14,565 --> 01:00:17,685
Speaker 1: for fourteen minutes and then wins the lottery twice. He

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01:00:18,205 --> 01:00:21,725
Speaker 1: eventually he retires. He does have like a heart condition,

1072
01:00:21,925 --> 01:00:24,405
Speaker 1: you know, from from the heart attack or whatever, and

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01:00:25,445 --> 01:00:27,845
Speaker 1: has arthritis really bad. But you know, he's just like

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01:00:28,285 --> 01:00:32,765
Speaker 1: happy as a clam. The clams are so happy. He's

1075
01:00:32,845 --> 01:00:37,885
Speaker 1: so clams. So I think, okay, so to me, this

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01:00:37,965 --> 01:00:39,605
Speaker 1: is kind of y'all are going to be so mad

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01:00:39,645 --> 01:00:41,765
Speaker 1: at me when I say this. This is like proof

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01:00:41,805 --> 01:00:46,405
Speaker 1: that we're just like in stimulation, okay, Because it's like

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01:00:46,565 --> 01:00:49,685
Speaker 1: whoever it was that was like controlling him or like

1080
01:00:49,805 --> 01:00:52,445
Speaker 1: you know, controlling his little he's the avatar or whatever,

1081
01:00:53,285 --> 01:00:55,965
Speaker 1: I like, totally messed up by accidentally giving him a

1082
01:00:56,005 --> 01:00:59,725
Speaker 1: heart attack and stuff. So it's like that whoever it was,

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01:00:59,845 --> 01:01:02,685
Speaker 1: this angel or whatever is like got fired. They were like, no,

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01:01:02,765 --> 01:01:05,485
Speaker 1: you did a terrible job, Like this was not supposed

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01:01:05,605 --> 01:01:08,565
Speaker 1: to happen. This was not in his memo. So they're like,

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01:01:08,805 --> 01:01:11,125
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to revive him, and then we're gonna

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01:01:11,125 --> 01:01:14,445
Speaker 1: have to like, you know, reward him by giving him

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01:01:14,485 --> 01:01:16,765
Speaker 1: having him win the lottery twice. So this is actually

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Speaker 1: a really sad story, Taylor, because an angel got fired.

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01:01:19,805 --> 01:01:24,245
Speaker 1: Oh that's sad. Also, that's not how simulation theory works, Taylor.

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01:01:24,325 --> 01:01:26,805
Speaker 1: So okay, Well I don't know anything about simulation theory.

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01:01:26,885 --> 01:01:29,085
Speaker 1: So okay, Well, everyone can have their own theory. I

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01:01:29,525 --> 01:01:31,725
Speaker 1: actually believe I'm taylor started cult. I will be a

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01:01:31,725 --> 01:01:34,765
Speaker 1: part of it. Okay, great. I think it sounds like

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01:01:34,805 --> 01:01:39,085
Speaker 1: Taylor's cult is Christianity. That's I just use it because

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01:01:39,125 --> 01:01:42,485
Speaker 1: the angelanity. They don't believe that the angels run the business.

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01:01:43,045 --> 01:01:45,205
Speaker 1: I just use the term angel. I don't know I

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01:01:45,205 --> 01:01:49,085
Speaker 1: would give it my own term. The nerdy child playing

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01:01:49,365 --> 01:01:53,485
Speaker 1: the alien playing your simulator game. Yeah we are, Harry Potter.

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01:01:53,845 --> 01:01:57,365
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, and why can't I make up my own simulation? Sorry,

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01:01:57,805 --> 01:02:01,525
Speaker 1: let her play her a simulation game. No, it's just

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01:02:01,605 --> 01:02:05,085
Speaker 1: we're the simulations. We're not being controlled by anything. We're

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01:02:05,125 --> 01:02:09,045
Speaker 1: just acting out something that already happened. Okay, So really

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01:02:09,445 --> 01:02:12,525
Speaker 1: he's just the avatar. He's not even the genuine person

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01:02:12,565 --> 01:02:16,405
Speaker 1: that that happened to Taylor. Okay, so fine. Then it's

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01:02:16,445 --> 01:02:19,965
Speaker 1: not a simulation theory. This theory is that there's somebody

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01:02:20,005 --> 01:02:23,885
Speaker 1: controlling us, and there is like rules to each each

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01:02:23,925 --> 01:02:27,845
Speaker 1: person is already mapped out for them, and this dude

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01:02:28,205 --> 01:02:34,205
Speaker 1: done messed up. I think my avatar Presbyterians. Stop. My

1110
01:02:34,245 --> 01:02:35,765
Speaker 1: avatar is telling me I need to go eat a

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01:02:35,765 --> 01:02:41,125
Speaker 1: whole bag of pea chips after this. So yeah, mine's

1112
01:02:41,165 --> 01:02:44,645
Speaker 1: telling me. Okay, well I don't free will who needs

1113
01:02:44,685 --> 01:02:49,725
Speaker 1: it not? Okay, somebody just messed up. He was supposed

1114
01:02:49,805 --> 01:02:52,285
Speaker 1: he was not supposed to die. I love this for

1115
01:02:52,445 --> 01:02:55,365
Speaker 1: him exactly. He was not supposed to die. They were

1116
01:02:55,445 --> 01:03:00,205
Speaker 1: making it up to him by having him. Women. Listen,

1117
01:03:00,325 --> 01:03:02,525
Speaker 1: when I used to play sims and I would accidentally

1118
01:03:02,565 --> 01:03:05,365
Speaker 1: treat my sims badly, I would make them woohoo and

1119
01:03:05,525 --> 01:03:07,565
Speaker 1: buy them a ton of fancy stuff just to make

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Speaker 1: them feel better afterwards. So I actually I agreed, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Thank you weird. I don't agree with this at all

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01:03:14,205 --> 01:03:17,485
Speaker 1: all right, well, great, this has touched a nerve and

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01:03:17,525 --> 01:03:21,445
Speaker 1: Gabby and I honestly don't know why. Well, we're just

1124
01:03:21,645 --> 01:03:25,325
Speaker 1: we're going down a predestination. First of all, simulation theory.

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01:03:25,325 --> 01:03:28,165
Speaker 1: It was wrong your conception of a Taylor. That's not

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01:03:28,245 --> 01:03:30,485
Speaker 1: how it works. Well, this is proof we are in

1127
01:03:30,485 --> 01:03:33,165
Speaker 1: a simulation. Okay, you know there's a nine nine percent

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01:03:33,245 --> 01:03:37,925
Speaker 1: chance of it. But uh, but also you know, I

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01:03:37,965 --> 01:03:40,365
Speaker 1: don't believe in fate. I don't think that's a thing.

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01:03:40,645 --> 01:03:43,205
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's nothing controlling us. It's just random.

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01:03:43,245 --> 01:03:49,525
Speaker 1: It just happened to have two lottery tickets. Quinky day. Yeah,

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01:03:49,565 --> 01:03:53,005
Speaker 1: I think it was fate that you and I met,

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01:03:53,365 --> 01:03:57,445
Speaker 1: and you can't change my mind. Okay, Oh I think

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01:03:57,445 --> 01:04:03,245
Speaker 1: it was nepotism. That's how we met. Okay, I'm stressed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and then okay, tell my avatar to okay, shut it down,

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