WEBVTT - Maná: Clavado en Un Bar

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<v Speaker 1>Manal had finally done it. With the release of Falta

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<v Speaker 1>Mode in nineteen ninety. They became the most talked about

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<v Speaker 1>rock band in Mexico and started to gain traction outside

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<v Speaker 1>their homeland.

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<v Speaker 2>They paid their dues in the underground, got dropped from

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<v Speaker 2>three separate labels, and had two bandmates call it quicks

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<v Speaker 2>before finally finding their home at Warner Music Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>The road had been long and bumpy. After a decade

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<v Speaker 1>of reduction, they were now in demand for concert bookings

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<v Speaker 1>and TV ad campaigns to the tune of millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Manna had gone this long without a manager, but

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<v Speaker 2>big deals meant big risks, and they needed someone to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure they got big rewards.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when another member of Mana decided.

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<v Speaker 3>To leave the group to become the band's manager. Because

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<v Speaker 3>nobody in the right mind would dip after getting million dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>Offers, wouldn't you know it. The one to step away

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<v Speaker 1>from the artistic side of things was Gayerros, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the three founding brothers of Sombrero Verde, one of whom

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<v Speaker 1>had called it quits just before man Not popped off.

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<v Speaker 2>This meant yet another lineup change, bringing my not down

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<v Speaker 2>to just two founding members, Ferrolvera and Juan Caerros. Yes, Joseph,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something we forgot to do last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, you're right, Okay, you know it's different covering

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<v Speaker 1>a band, all right, Sometimes the lead guy isn't clear

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<v Speaker 1>till later. And we're talking, of course about fer Olvera

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<v Speaker 1>born December eighth, nineteen fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>A sage son, the first one this season. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>believe the challenge for this sage is to seek their

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<v Speaker 2>own sense of authority, learning from the role models without

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<v Speaker 2>copying them.

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<v Speaker 1>Police exactly admire Sting, but don't try to be Sting.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a person who's here for the drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust is key, and respect comes before loyalty. But only

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<v Speaker 2>by staying true to who you are inside? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>be a leader who can send that trust flowing both

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<v Speaker 2>ways and set yourself up to do good for the world?

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<v Speaker 1>Fed on Veda's desire to do just that was clear

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<v Speaker 1>enough from the name of the band, mana good energy.

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<v Speaker 1>The bread that falls from heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a bit cocky too, though, like where God's gift

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<v Speaker 2>to Earth, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>A little cocky, but still, if Manah was making bread,

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<v Speaker 1>listeners were eating it. The band would never stray musically

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<v Speaker 1>from that good vibes heal the world energy, making for

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<v Speaker 1>two of their biggest albums.

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<v Speaker 2>But good vibes can't always cover up bad blood.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Lilianavosquez and I'm Joseph Carrio and this

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<v Speaker 1>is Becoming an icon a weekly podcast where we give

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<v Speaker 1>you the rundown on how today's most famous latinv stars

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<v Speaker 1>have shaped pop culture.

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<v Speaker 3>And given the world an extra lebble.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit back and get comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we are going in the only way we know how,

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<v Speaker 3>with buenas bida, buenas riesas mchies, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>opinions as we relive their greatest achievements on our journey

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<v Speaker 3>to find out what makes them so iconic.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're back to the early nineties. Lisi's the former guitarist,

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<v Speaker 1>is now managing the band, and in this place comes

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<v Speaker 1>Cessa and Vampidro Lopez, so named for his nocturnal sleeping pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>Vampido would sleep all day and wake up in the

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<v Speaker 2>late afternoon early evening and go straight to playing his guitar.

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<v Speaker 3>Big older brother who never leaves his room vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, Vambido was brought in to fill in at

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<v Speaker 1>a few concerts. When he was formally invited to join

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<v Speaker 1>the band, he hemmed and hawed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because Vampido had his own thing going on, a

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<v Speaker 2>band called Boleta.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it cute when musicians think they can do their

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<v Speaker 1>own thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, like join the band that's getting coin and do

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<v Speaker 3>your thing later.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, Van Beetle did actually play in both bands,

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<v Speaker 1>but as Manak continued to blow up, got the sombretto

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<v Speaker 1>vert of the treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are all these bands color coded? It's like giving

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<v Speaker 2>peewee football team.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Cela superhero. Oh anyway, Vombido became a fan favorite

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<v Speaker 1>band member. At live shows, Fair cued his fiery guitar

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<v Speaker 1>solos with the iconic shout atro.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just telling you how you said it. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>But if any of the rock bands in the show

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<v Speaker 3>have taught us anything, it's that band members come and go.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for us, we're forever and ever and Yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get too attached to Vampido or the new keyboards who

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<v Speaker 1>was brought in along with him, Ivan Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even really like rock, and I know not

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<v Speaker 3>to get attached to.

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<v Speaker 1>The keyboardist Still, this lineup would be crystallized in Manna's

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<v Speaker 1>first album to debut in the Billboard Top ten, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two's De Who Got On Those Ninos? Where Would

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<v Speaker 1>the Children Play?

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<v Speaker 2>The titles giving Bleeding Heart, Sade Energy, and.

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<v Speaker 3>This album gives bleeding Heart for the days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving a heart that's getting transfusions in real time

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<v Speaker 1>just so it can keep on bleeding for its entire

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<v Speaker 1>fifty warm in net runs geez don. De Who Got

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<v Speaker 1>On Those Ninos was recorded at the late Great Devonshire

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<v Speaker 1>Sound Studio in Hollywood, and the artists who've recorded here

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<v Speaker 1>run the gamut from Billy Joel Bing, Crosby and the

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson's to Nirvana, Suicidal Tendencies, Green Day and Ozzy Osborne.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh I wonder where math Nah falls on this very

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<v Speaker 2>wide spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look no further than the most iconic song on

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<v Speaker 1>the album, Oh Yeah Memore, an aching nineties power that

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<v Speaker 1>caused a phenomenon in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were a teen girl in Mexico in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>someone at some point either sang you this song, gave

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<v Speaker 2>you a cassette tape of them singing it, or played

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<v Speaker 2>it outside your window.

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<v Speaker 3>Like John Cusack.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, if you saw the Barbie movie, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>the song that all the Kens sing around the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Pop quiz Joseph, damn you what? I hope you drank

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<v Speaker 1>your coffee and went on your run and did your

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<v Speaker 1>hot girl walk because your brain needs to be sharp

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<v Speaker 1>for this one. When was the first time you fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with Oya maamore? And do you remember where

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<v Speaker 1>you were?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I was smoking a cigarette. I do

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<v Speaker 2>remember that. And I was at this place.

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<v Speaker 3>It was called Barbadou in Houades, and I remember everybody

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<v Speaker 3>knew the song but me, and I felt so stupid

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<v Speaker 3>because it's so catchy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the catchiest, it's so catchy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just felt so stupid because then I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I was so unfessa and I felt poor, ugly

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<v Speaker 2>and fat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all, okay, First all, you are none of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never been any of those things. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this to you. One of my biggest regrets in

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<v Speaker 1>life is that you and I did not know each

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<v Speaker 1>other during your watt Is days, because we would have

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<v Speaker 1>had a time buff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, honestly, we would have had We used to

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<v Speaker 2>cut out little like boards and make them of our

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<v Speaker 2>hottest nights and just have like a board like I

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<v Speaker 2>guess how you would imagine a vision board like a

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<v Speaker 2>scrap book, but like posters of our outings and cigarette

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<v Speaker 2>butts and like Coria.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was the cover art for on your on

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<v Speaker 1>your vision board?

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<v Speaker 3>From what? I didn't?

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<v Speaker 2>Dare you no? Because you know since since it was

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<v Speaker 2>made in ninety two. This is also like I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was in what is Like in ninety nine? So

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<v Speaker 2>so where were you?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was not familiar with the song when it

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<v Speaker 1>came out because I think maybe a little different than you.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really listen to a lot of Mexican pop

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<v Speaker 1>rock or rock, and we're not going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that argument. When I was in high school, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really listen to any Spanish music that was not driven

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<v Speaker 1>by my parents until I went to college. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so similar timeline. I heard the song in college. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in DuPont Circle in Washington, d C. At a

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<v Speaker 1>gay club, and yeah, and it came on and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>At a straight club, so what the fuzz?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we should have such places and the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>went wild. Now this is also a club that had

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<v Speaker 1>a big Latino presence because DC is a super international city.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, this song is really forever just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guilty pleasures like I'm talking like drive by Incubus,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason by who was stank? I mean anything from

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<v Speaker 1>Matchbox twenty. It falls for me right in line with

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<v Speaker 1>those songs catchy and cute.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not roud. Sorry, mind blown. I'm mind blown

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<v Speaker 3>with that comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not to say that there was nothing on

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<v Speaker 1>the album to recall Mina's roots. The song moved They

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<v Speaker 1>would emerge as a soft nineties counterculture anthem where Alex

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<v Speaker 1>the drummer takes a mic to sing about wearing his

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<v Speaker 1>hair long and listening to what he likes to.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to and checking that Sagittarius Box might not also

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<v Speaker 2>released vv T Scene Ida, an environmental anthem that asks

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<v Speaker 2>what would it be like to live in a world

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<v Speaker 2>where their air is unbreathable?

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<v Speaker 3>Like tell me how I'm supposed to breathe with no air?

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<v Speaker 1>Vv Scene Idea would earn the MTV Latino Video Music

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<v Speaker 1>Award for Video of the Year, and that was just

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<v Speaker 1>the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 2>Don Deinos would debut at number four on the Billboard

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<v Speaker 2>Latin chart and stay on the chart for ninety seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the years, the album would sell ten million copies,

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<v Speaker 2>making it the best selling album in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish language rock and that.

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<v Speaker 1>MTV Video Award winning video. It helped Mana break through

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<v Speaker 1>in Argentina and Spain, tool markets that are typically not

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<v Speaker 1>so friendly to outsiders, and two stops on Mana's biggest tour,

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<v Speaker 1>yette A two hundred and sixty eight night World Tour.

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<v Speaker 3>I am tired just thinking of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Shiz Mana were officially a global force, well beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>confines in their home country and a far cry from

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<v Speaker 1>the repressed of CD bars of yr, but that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean they were beyond rock star Shenanigans or sudden bandmate exits.

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<v Speaker 1>In April and nineteen ninety four, A van Bidel decided

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<v Speaker 1>to disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle of the world tour, and on top

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<v Speaker 2>of that, he said, I'm taking the keyboardings.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you sound exactly like Jennifer Coolidge right? So

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<v Speaker 1>many skills?

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<v Speaker 3>Vampido and the keyboardist Yvon Gonzalez demanded that they get

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<v Speaker 3>a share of the song raining credits and royalties from

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<v Speaker 3>the album that put Manna on top of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Gossip shows also speculated that the two upstart bandmates were

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<v Speaker 1>just plain sick of fair Olvera the fame had got

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<v Speaker 1>into his head too, claims which at the time were hearsaide,

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<v Speaker 1>but which the guitarist would later back up. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you spend so much time with people. You're young and

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to set your limits, and any insignificant

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<v Speaker 1>thing becomes big. So there came a point where none

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<v Speaker 1>of us could stand each other and we needed a break.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Santana all over again. Why can't these boys keep

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<v Speaker 2>it together?

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<v Speaker 1>Olivea and drummer Alex Gonzalez refused to meet their bandmates demands,

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<v Speaker 1>and so in the middle of an international tour, Vampido

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<v Speaker 1>and Evonne split.

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<v Speaker 2>So, for those keeping track, we've gone through a drummer,

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<v Speaker 2>a guitarist, another guitarist, and a keyboardist.

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<v Speaker 1>To save the tour, the band would call in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of favors from some old friends original so they're

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<v Speaker 1>the guitarists Gustavo Rosco and Shila Rios, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lady rocker who linked the band with Beppa Hollywood. Together,

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<v Speaker 2>the quintet finished out the.

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<v Speaker 1>Tour but their old friends would be invited as permanent members.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, wouldn't you want Hila in the band like

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<v Speaker 3>she made you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But she could have had other things going on. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she was playing in another band, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So Sheila left to continue playing with Naranka, Lambara or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and after the tour laps.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair, Alex and Juan launch a worldwide search for a

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<v Speaker 1>new guitarist. Over eighty guitarists from Mexico, Chile, Argentina and

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<v Speaker 1>the US audition, but none of them seem like the

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<v Speaker 1>right fit.

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<v Speaker 2>So the band calls up who else, Beppa Hollywood, who

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<v Speaker 2>gets on the phone with Luis Miguel's guitarist, Quiko Cebrian.

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<v Speaker 1>The guitarist Kiko Sebrian didn't know anyone offhand, but he

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<v Speaker 1>said some Mirando had just come by and dropped off

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<v Speaker 1>a cassette demo.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he's good, uh promising?

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<v Speaker 1>So Geegle sends the tape to Beppa Hollywood, whose name

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<v Speaker 1>is Bepe Kindana by the way, in case anyone forgot,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just joking here, and Bepe listens in the car

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<v Speaker 1>on the way to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Cars had tape decks back then. See Liliana, I do

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<v Speaker 3>not about cars.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you take ubers all the time. You

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<v Speaker 1>never ride the subway. Of course you know about cars. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the tape, Beppa Hollywood hears an extremely versatile

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<v Speaker 1>guitar is playing everything from bossa nova to heavy metal.

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<v Speaker 2>He calls our leading man, fed Or Vetta and says,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what that sound you've been looking for?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>He puts the phone up to the speaker and gives

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<v Speaker 1>Phair a listen, and Fair says.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Brutal Bebbe, disappointed, takes the tape into his office and

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<v Speaker 1>tosses it in the slush pile, a box of rejected

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<v Speaker 1>demos that are ultimately bound for the dump truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Where they'll reenact the end of Toy Story three, but

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<v Speaker 2>with music in setatois.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait stop, don't make me cry on the mic. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like not cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry boo. Anyway, the search for the guitarist goes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot like their search for the drummer back in Simbreo

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<v Speaker 3>Veda the era.

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<v Speaker 1>Aka impossible demands make for a totally fruitless search, and

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<v Speaker 1>one day Fair calls up Bepan and says, screw it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go with the guy from the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>FML and Bebba Hollywood has a full on panic attack.

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<v Speaker 3>He rummages around the reject.

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<v Speaker 1>Box, digging through the trash.

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<v Speaker 2>He does eighty on the mayback and races home to

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<v Speaker 2>turn his home office upside down looking for this damn tape.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally he finds it, presumably after chucking the tape

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<v Speaker 1>in the rejects box. After showing it to Fair, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a moment of better judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the guy who went to bat form Na

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. After all, Bebba Hollywood does have

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<v Speaker 2>an ear.

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<v Speaker 1>And after Bebbe played the tape for other members of monot,

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<v Speaker 1>it was decided the band would welcome its new permanent guitarist,

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<v Speaker 1>sedjil Vai, and.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety five, the definitive Mana lineup debuted with

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<v Speaker 2>the album Guandoos Angeles Joran When Angels Cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Mana's third album with Warner Music Mexico was yet another

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<v Speaker 1>worldwide success, and it even led to their state side breakthrough.

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<v Speaker 3>The band played seventeen sold out shows in Boston, d C, Atlanta, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>New York, Miami, and Moore. The anglosphere took notice.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rolling Stone time, and people covered the tour extensively.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, Francis Ford Coppola tapped the band

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<v Speaker 1>for a film soundtrack of Smielski uh huh, and the

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<v Speaker 1>band was invited to play on the first tribute album

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<v Speaker 1>to led Zeppelin and Comium alongside several American artists.

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<v Speaker 2>Mana were Rock Royalty, which would soon put them in

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<v Speaker 2>contact with actual royalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph, do you follow the royals?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Kind of, I too, well?

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<v Speaker 1>Which royals I should probably specify? Do you follow like

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<v Speaker 1>the British royal.

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<v Speaker 3>The British, the Spanish, the Danish?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, got it okay, so said Japanese, all of

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<v Speaker 1>the royals.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, every royal actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for the baseball team anyway. The Spanish royal family

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<v Speaker 1>is made up of King Philippe, the sixth, Queen Leticia

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<v Speaker 1>and their children Leonor and Infanta Sophia. But in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, long before any of that royal biz, Leticia

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<v Speaker 1>was a journalist for CNN living in Guadalajara. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>that is some compass. You were a reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed story like I would do a story on

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<v Speaker 2>her because that's just so She has the best blow up.

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<v Speaker 3>She is the original making marcoll that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, okay, okay, did she interview Mana?

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<v Speaker 1>She did, indeed, back in the nineties. Fair in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eleven recalled that Lithicia was a tough interviewer.

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<v Speaker 3>I know one trusts me.

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<v Speaker 1>So she began her sit down with the band smoking

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<v Speaker 1>a cig and Fair ticked her off by asking her

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<v Speaker 1>to put it out. After that, her questions became noticeably

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<v Speaker 1>tougher YO.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what to get between a bitch and her

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<v Speaker 2>nicoteen honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Not an endorsement for smoking, but facts. After the interview, however,

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<v Speaker 1>Lithicia and the band went out for a few threats, and,

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<v Speaker 1>unbeknownst to the public until many years later, she and

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<v Speaker 1>Fair had a brief relationship. But wait, that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>jusiest part.

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<v Speaker 3>O my spe spell stell spell spell Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So years later, in two thousand and three, Lithicsia officially

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<v Speaker 1>became a part of the royal family with her marriage

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<v Speaker 1>to Felippe. And that's when the listening public took a

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<v Speaker 1>good hard look at the cover of Mana's nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven albums Liquid Dreams Like the Otown song if you

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<v Speaker 1>know you know who I do know? All right, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's keep it moving featured a funny, in hindsight scandalous

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<v Speaker 1>at the time portrayal of a fore armed, topless mermaid

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<v Speaker 1>who looks suspiciously like Leticia lurs Rocslano, the now Queen

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<v Speaker 1>of Spain.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, Like, but but does this proof?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you look at a side by side

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<v Speaker 1>of said woman on the cover, La Mermaid and Lidicia.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, there's a lot of similarity.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, wow, wow, I'm kind of like that's juice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And by the way, to settle the debate, the

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<v Speaker 1>woman depicted on the cover is in fact Leticia Ortiz,

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<v Speaker 1>but Waite Joseph. She did not get all nakey for

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<v Speaker 1>the cover. She didn't even.

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<v Speaker 3>Pose for it. Okay. Is this AI in the nineties?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically yes, but a little different. So the artist who

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<v Speaker 1>painted the cover was actually friends with Lithicia and used

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<v Speaker 1>her as a reference. After Lithsa's engagement to the Prince

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<v Speaker 1>of Astutias was announced, the painter shared that he had

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<v Speaker 1>gone through a bit of quote unquote Lathinmania and used

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<v Speaker 1>her as reference for several paintings.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Queen of Spain didn't have a full Jack

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<v Speaker 2>and Rose driving like one of your mermaids. Moment was

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<v Speaker 2>fed and or this artist. But the relationship did happen, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it did, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes to show you the prominence of Manna. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time we get to the late nineties early offs, the

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<v Speaker 1>band was a household name in the States, throughout Latin

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<v Speaker 1>America and in Europe. And they played with another icon

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<v Speaker 1>that we actually covered this season. In December of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight, Fair received a phone call. He picked up

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<v Speaker 1>up and a recognizable boy said to him, greeting's wayward traveler.

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<v Speaker 2>I've extended my vibrations to you across the telephonic medium

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<v Speaker 2>as a form of invitation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like you to join me in connecting the molecules

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<v Speaker 3>with the light nad Just kidding. It's Carlo Santana want

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<v Speaker 3>a jam.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to clarify, Carlos Santana didn't crank all the lead

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<v Speaker 1>singer of Mana, but farah Veda did think he was

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<v Speaker 1>being crank called and he hung up the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Santana called him back to say, no, dude, like

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<v Speaker 1>I really am gardless Santana.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how Mana appeared on nineteen ninety nine Supernatural

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<v Speaker 3>on the track Guarason Espionavo, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest fan of the Spanish speaking world, linked up with

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<v Speaker 1>a rock and roll legend on what remains one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best selling albums in history. Let's just say that

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<v Speaker 1>Manna were set for life.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, except think about Santana.

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<v Speaker 2>In the addo, his longtime fans heard radio friendly hits

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<v Speaker 2>like Smooth and Game Over Love and wondered whether this

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<v Speaker 2>was the same something out that rocked Woodstock and in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico, rock fans couldn't escape Oh Yemiamore and other ballads.

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<v Speaker 1>They saw tabloids filled with would be scandals with Spanish royalty,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had to ask, is my not really rock music?

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<v Speaker 1>On the next Becoming an Icon, we're taking a look

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<v Speaker 1>at what the haters have to say and whether Manang

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<v Speaker 1>has stayed in touch with their rock breeks. Becoming an

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<v Speaker 1>Icon is presented by Sonoo and Iheart's Michael Gurda podcast network.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to Becoming an Icon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,

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