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Speaker 1: Speak. Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks

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Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday May eighth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. I'm Jay Skis here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always task.

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Speaker 2: Melie podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded one, Matapsha, Hot Boy, Trick,

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Speaker 1: Kerbie hey Hey, and over Yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Hello to the YouTube, Hello to the podcast listeners. Lots

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Speaker 1: to talk about once again, it was deja vu last

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Speaker 1: night when it came to that first game. I saw

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Speaker 1: Zach Cram tweet putting the Mario Kart Blueshell in the

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Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs has done wonders for the entertainment product. Good tweet, Zach. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The New York Knicks did it again. Down twenty in

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Speaker 1: the third quarter of Game one, down twenty in the

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Speaker 1: third quarter of Game two, two huge comebacks, two incredible

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Speaker 1: road wins against the defending champs. You can't have the

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Speaker 1: bing without the bong tasks. My god, the Knicks up

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Speaker 1: to Zho as they go back to Madison Square Garden,

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Speaker 1: and it was very similar to Game one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was incredible how it was exactly the same.

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Speaker 2: The new Celtics owners have to be saying we want

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Speaker 2: a refund. Our offer is withdrawn because they didn't expect

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Speaker 2: this two games in a row to do that, even

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Speaker 2: though their season was full of games where they couldn't

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Speaker 2: put it together for forty eight minutes. And that is

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Speaker 2: what's happening right now with the Boston Celtics, where they

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Speaker 2: just can't finish the job. I thought in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: Josh Hart was the meanest guy of them all, the

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Speaker 2: guy who was putting his attitude. He kind of set

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Speaker 2: the tone. Two big blocks, Josh Hart, the six to

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Speaker 2: four guy, the guy who was helping out at the

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Speaker 2: rim because Mitchell Robinson was out on the perimeter, and

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Speaker 2: he was very good. But I just went back and

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Speaker 2: watched every single shot for the Boston Celtics. It's really

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Speaker 2: hard to decipher what happened. Jaalen Brown was over. The

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Speaker 2: three point shot was so short. He tried to take

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson down low, tried to draw a foul on

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, which is an odd choice. I would say,

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Speaker 2: I thought Derek White's threes were gonna be going down.

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Speaker 2: I thought those were happening. He made a great pass

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Speaker 2: then to Jason Tatum in the corner, whose three was short.

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Speaker 2: Those threes were just so short. And I would say

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Speaker 2: about Jason Tatum, he was the one guy trying to

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Speaker 2: make it happen down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: He was the one guy that hit a bucket eight

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Speaker 1: or nine minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why you have to watch all eight

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Speaker 2: of those minutes where they didn't score basket from eight

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Speaker 2: forty to eight eighteen seconds. How that happens to a

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Speaker 2: basketball team. And Tatum did force it. He got the

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Speaker 2: dunk with eighteen seconds, and then the Celtics ran the

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Speaker 2: exact same play, exact same play, and the Knicks adapted,

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Speaker 2: setting their guy back a little bit further in the

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Speaker 2: paint where Ojan and Obi could help a little bit more,

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Speaker 2: and then a resulted in mckel bridge's block. So that

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Speaker 2: was an interesting choice by Joe Mizuola. Let's just run

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Speaker 2: the same thing, and then that didn't work out, repeating

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Speaker 2: his heart. I guess they don't have the same attitude

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Speaker 2: for forty eight minutes. We know that.

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Speaker 3: But there's just no explanation for this. Really, there's two explanations.

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Speaker 3: On one side, it's what Boston did wrong. On the

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Speaker 3: other side, it's what's what the Knicks did right. Boston

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Speaker 3: is missing shots, There's no other way to put it.

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Speaker 3: They went seven for thirty four in the second half

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Speaker 3: on shots that were not in the restricted area, two

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Speaker 3: for eleven on three and like you're saying, tasks, they

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Speaker 3: were getting good shots. There are some wide open looks.

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Speaker 3: They missed so many good looks that they are then

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Speaker 3: passing up on good looks as well. It's just a

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Speaker 3: shooting twenty five percent a lot, one hundred attempts through

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Speaker 3: two games. They aren't making shots, simply put, Like Derek

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Speaker 3: White's getting good looks, Tatum's getting good looks, Al Horford's

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Speaker 3: getting good looks, they're just missing. They turned the ball

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Speaker 3: over seven nine times in the second half. That hurts

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Speaker 3: the Celtics, Drew Holliday seemed a little panicked on that

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Speaker 3: last play when it was guarding Jalen Brunson, like all

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Speaker 3: more like what the Knicks are doing. That's very impressive.

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Speaker 3: Hart and McBride hit threes right at the end of

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Speaker 3: the third quarter. I thought that was humongous. I started

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Speaker 3: watching back when they were down twenty to see everything

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Speaker 3: that happened. Bridges came alive in the fourth quarter. This

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Speaker 3: is crazy over for the first three quarters, fourteen in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. At one point, Reggie Miller says, there's

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Speaker 3: no structure offensively for New York because at that point

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Speaker 3: it's Deuce and Mitchen for those guys alongside Bridges, Og

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Speaker 3: and Hart and Reggie was one hundred percent rate. These

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Speaker 3: were not organized baskets that McHale Bridges was scoring. It

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Speaker 3: was broken plays, it was transition. It was just luckily

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Speaker 3: getting points on the board, and then he got into

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Speaker 3: such a rhythm that when the starters came back tit's

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Speaker 3: was happy to like run things through mcale bridges, which

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Speaker 3: was humongous. Their knicks were quicker to loose balls. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned Josh Hart was massive on this one. Al Horford

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Speaker 3: steels an inbounce pass al and then Josh Hart blocks

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Speaker 3: Heart had one that turned into a Brunson three, Karl

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Speaker 3: just scrapping a little bit harder. And then I thought

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Speaker 3: ogn Andobi's point of attack defense was awesome. I thought

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Speaker 3: Duce McBride's point of attack defense was awesome. They both

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Speaker 3: played a plus games taking the Celtics out of their actions,

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Speaker 3: making him play late into the shot clocks. And then Brunson,

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Speaker 3: of course just did his magic nine points one assist

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a combination choke and well played

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Speaker 3: by the Knicks, oh for sure. I mean the Knicks

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Speaker 3: have now made this what five straight road games where

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Speaker 3: they've basically done this come back to some extent, maybe

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Speaker 3: not down twenty against the Pistons, but obviously got back

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Speaker 3: now five to oh on the road this postseason, all

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Speaker 3: of them coming by three points are less. That sounds crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's wilder than two twenty point comebacks to me against

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Speaker 3: the defending champs. That many close games that you keep

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Speaker 3: pulling out on the road incredible. Schumann has the stat

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the Celtics just being abysmal in

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Speaker 3: eight points on fifty possessions in the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 3: overtime in the series. They've shot eleven for fifty three

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Speaker 3: in those twenty nine minutes. And they're two superstars. The

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Speaker 3: two J's have been abysmal. Yeah, they've just been.

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Speaker 1: Very, very bad. That last play to go back to that,

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Speaker 1: you're right, obviously they sort of knew what they were

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Speaker 1: You know. Al Horford couldn't get his blocking on as well.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Rumson did good job staying with Tatum. Then Tatum's

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Speaker 1: handle was sloppy. He like he lost the ball as

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Speaker 1: he got on Toto Mitchell around the free throw line,

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Speaker 1: I think they originally said it was a block. I

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Speaker 1: think it's been changed to his steal because he was

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Speaker 1: trying to pass out. Yeah, like you had no shot

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Speaker 1: and he's like maybe trying to get it to jail

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Speaker 1: and Brown, but bridges.

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Speaker 2: With the huge steel again it was more steely. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: half point in the stocks kind of each Yeah, it was,

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Speaker 2: but it was the exact same play run. The original

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Speaker 2: play was underneath the Celtics Whop, Tatum's going b lining

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Speaker 2: it and oh jan Andoby was out at mid court,

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Speaker 2: so al Horford had a mean backpick and that's where

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Speaker 2: he could continue on. Well this time, oh Jannobi, we're

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Speaker 2: seeing the same thing. Top video said, get the heck

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Speaker 2: away from mid court. You can just get into the

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Speaker 2: freaking paint. Yeah, and so yeah, he did lose the

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Speaker 2: They just weren't prepared. It is odd just to see

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Speaker 2: the there was the baseline turnaround shot over og that

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Speaker 2: was he was just desperate to try, while Jalen Brown

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Speaker 2: and then what he's trying to do to brunts and

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Speaker 2: the Derek White misses. I will say just the Knicks

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Speaker 2: were more physical. I mean they kind of mugged Christaps

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Speaker 2: Porzingis his one attempt with nine minutes plus left, mckail

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Speaker 2: Bridges was all over him. We're gonna see Mitchell Robinson

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Speaker 2: free throw that was way short. Chrispaps Porzingis shot was

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Speaker 2: like four feet short. It was a shot from from

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Speaker 2: the free throw line. How I would a seven foot

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Speaker 2: was a definitely a foul that was not called right

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Speaker 2: then and there. That being said, the team that is

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Speaker 2: more physical is gonna get away with it. That's just

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Speaker 2: how it is. And the Celtics were not. They were

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Speaker 2: just shooting three after three after three. When it comes

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Speaker 2: they tried inside it.

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Speaker 3: They took twenty less and they were inside way more

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Speaker 3: often this It was so funny.

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Speaker 2: Started this game way less.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, also true, the start of this game was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: The crowd basically groaning or sighing every time the Celtics

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Speaker 1: attempted a three. I'm talking right back at the tip

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Speaker 1: right now. Thankfully, the Celtics didn't take a lot of

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Speaker 1: threes really early in the game. I think they got

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Speaker 1: like four to three point attempts up in the first

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Speaker 1: six minutes. So instead they were driving, they were getting

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Speaker 1: post ups, they were getting stuff around the paint, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: the balance was better in this game. But I think

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Speaker 1: that was so funny this. Even the crowd is like

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Speaker 1: that that narrative from game one, and when they took

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Speaker 1: so many and miss somebody, it was like, please stop

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Speaker 1: shooting threes. And you could see it like, okay, we

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Speaker 1: got we can't shoot every damn possession of three pointers.

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Speaker 1: They were trying. But you know, the defense from the

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Speaker 1: Knicks is like they're they're happy to switch. We talked

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Speaker 1: about heading in a series. Man, watch out for Kat

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Speaker 1: and Brunson. They're gonna try and be exposed. Celtics are

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Speaker 1: doing it. Celtics are getting these matchups, but they're not scoring.

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Speaker 1: No jail times enough, they're not scoring on them.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown went to jail and Brown twice, Yeah, didn't score.

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen. Yeah, Now you kind of shot over

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Speaker 2: didn't work out well in the fourth quarter. Eleven threes

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Speaker 3: Cat was playing well defensively, and then Josh Hart. You

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Speaker 2: They did, keep him around. Just let the Celtics clank

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Speaker 1: But he just can't play right now because of this weird,

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Speaker 1: But do you feel like the series is done, like

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Speaker 3: make some shots. That's there's no there's like no other

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Speaker 2: Looks there. Yeah. In the fourth quarter, Pritchard was the

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Speaker 3: Those are your eleven.

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Speaker 3: Derek White was three for eleven from three. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he was shooting pretty good.

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Speaker 1: shots of the Knicks bench. My god, was that bench.

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00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 1: They sensed it. They're like, oh, we're gonna do this

429
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 1: like Bridges on fire. Here, here we go. They can't

430
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 1: score the Celtics on r N. You know, they're shooting

431
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,479
Speaker 1: on that net. They just going nuts. And PJ Tucker,

432
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 1: Holy crash, get an isocam on PJ Tucker him on

433
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: both of these comebacks. I just keep my eye up

434
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 1: in the corner and he's talking to people in the crown.

435
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 1: He's like, obviously pretty hyped that the comeback's reel and

436
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull it off again. And they did Game

437
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 1: three Saturday, three point thirty on ABC. I know Chuck

438
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 1: was pissed about that. What houses not prime time? But

439
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden for Game three, little afternoon game.

440
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 2: How does he know when the most p people are watching.

441
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he just wants it at night. I guess, yeah, probably,

442
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: But Saturday you can get some numbers at three thirty.

443
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, he might just well, oh yeah,

444
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: it's ABC, so he wouldn't even be working. Good point.

445
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was gonna say, he doesn't want to

446
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: be working in the afternoon, but why would he?

447
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: Guess?

448
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 3: Tell me what happens.

449
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: He's golfing, I guess, and we'll be missing it, I guess.

450
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: But we should go over the teams that have overcome

451
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: a two zero deficit after losing their first two at home.

452
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 1: Okay, there's not many.

453
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: There's five, Okay, in NBA history. One aside. I didn't

454
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 2: remember it, and you would think you would remember it

455
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 2: just because of who was playing four years ago in

456
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. It's because it's kind of a memorable

457
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: Clippers and Mavericks. Yeah yeah, Kawhi are able to overdo Luca.

458
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 3: I remember Matt Austin Duncan on us because after the

459
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: Mavericks one Game two, we said the Clippers asked for this, right,

460
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 3: as you can see what happened. Good call by the Clippers.

461
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another one that's sort of in recent memory is

462
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 2: your team.

463
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: Trey Chicago Bulls.

464
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 1: Right.

465
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were up to his year on the Celtics.

466
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: Rondo got hurt.

467
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: The Rondo, then they went seventeen seventeen, and then we

468
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 2: go to five for the next one.

469
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Speaker 1: I mean, does it involve our finalists of that year

470
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Speaker 1: or no?

471
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the final stuff of the next year. Okay,

472
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: I got nothing on the finalist that made it No.

473
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: Six lost in six, they over Mavericks. Yeah, they beat

474
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: the Rockets in five. Okay, uh. And then another Rockets,

475
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: the only team here that actually won the championship. The

476
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: Rockets won the championship. They won round one.

477
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: They were down.

478
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: Against Phoenix, so they won three straight because it was

479
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: just a five game.

480
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: Series back then to go on to win the title.

481
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then as nineteen sixty nine er Nice Lakers

482
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: beat San Francisco. It almost happened last year when the

483
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: Nuggets lost the first two against the Timberwolves. Timberwolves went

484
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 2: up to to oh and then it looked like the

485
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: Nuggets were gonna win in Game seven and win that series.

486
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: But then they lost Okay, Yeah, so there's five. So

487
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: the teams are thirty and five. If you win two

488
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: games on the road, you usually win the series. You

489
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: win thirty of the thirty five series. Yeah, so here

490
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: you go.

491
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: You're in the driver's seat. The Pacers and the Celtics

492
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: are feeling excuse me, Pacers and the Knicks are feeling

493
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: pretty good, and fans of the WWE are feeling great.

494
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: If they get a Halliburton Brunson in the Eastern Conference,

495
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: Triple H will be pumped because they've had some good

496
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: run ins ringside. All right, well, would you bet on it?

497
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: Would you bet on one of those two teams coming

498
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: back to win the series this season down two oh,

499
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 1: losing their first two home games.

500
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't bet on the Celtics. I know it's recency

501
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 2: buyds here. We just watched it, but watching them throughout

502
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: the season where we all kind of wondered, oh, this

503
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 2: team just turns it on for a good quarter and

504
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: can do it. And it's hard to bet on the

505
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Knicks after their season, but after watching what happened, Yeah

506
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: I would. I would. That's interesting.

507
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm more likely if I was picking either of them,

508
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: I would pick the Celtics because the Calves, I mean,

509
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: they are who's playing for them? I'm taking I know

510
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: the Porzingist part is very important as again I keep

511
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: just saying it. But the Calves, I mean, we don't

512
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: even know if they have two of their all stars

513
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: still and then their main guy off the bench they

514
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: made a big trade for it's true, So that's not true.

515
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: What about you? How would you answer that? One? Go Calves?

516
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Are the Celtics more likely? Celtics Game three though on

517
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: the line for both of them seasons.

518
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 3: Down three zero?

519
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, let me check the stats.

520
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: No, let's anything else from the Knicks shock in the

521
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: world once again, there the big bong Knicks man. They

522
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: are feeling themselves right now and rightfully, so nothing else.

523
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's move to a game that shouldn't

524
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: take that long. Shay Gildess Alexander scored thirty four points

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: in three quarters thunder set league and team records in

526
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: a one forty nine to one oh six win over

527
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: the Nuggets last night. They tied their series at one

528
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: game apiece, okay, see, becoming the first home team to

529
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: win a game in the second round. So kudos to

530
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 1: them right from the jump. Tray, okay see, pretty hell

531
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: bent on getting some revenge here for that Game one loss.

532
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: They were up forty five to twenty one at the

533
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 1: end of the first quarter. They were shooting seventy one

534
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: point four percent from the field. They continued the dominance

535
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: in the second. They were up seventy eight to forty three.

536
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: At one point they led one twenty four to seventy six.

537
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: After three quarters, the largest lead was forty nine points.

538
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: SGA was a plus fifty one in this game. So,

539
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: okay see did what we thought. Maybe they were doing

540
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: game one not game two, so maybe if we had

541
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: flipped it, it's like, oh yeah, this series normal, but

542
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: it was turned on its head here. But your takeaways

543
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: from a blowout from the Thunder.

544
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the Nuggets had it when they were

545
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: up two zero, but then brief one forty nine to

546
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: one oh four run for Oklahoma City. They found the

547
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: NBA hack Twenty point leads aren't safe. Thirty point leads

548
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 3: are safe. Shout out to Tom Porter who texted me

549
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: at twelve twenty four am and said, no effing way,

550
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: can't believe ok se cough that game up. You know,

551
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: Helvee was staying away during the second half of this one.

552
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: The Thunder played with desperation, they played with force. They

553
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: completely sped up the Nuggets. I talked after Game one

554
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: that I thought Denver was out in transition way too much.

555
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: They had twenty four fast break points, only five last

556
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: night in Game two. Shakeo Just Alexander is dominating in

557
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 3: this series. He had thirty four last night on thirteen

558
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: field goal attempts, made as many free throws as he

559
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: did shots from the field eleven for thirteen from the

560
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: field eleven to eleven at the line, had eight assists

561
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: two turnovers. So far, He's averaging a Yannis like thirty

562
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: three and a half per game on sixty percent shooting.

563
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: Like I said, there's no matchup for Shako Just Alexander,

564
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: and he is dominating his matchup. On the flip side,

565
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray can't find any space with lu Door putting

566
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: the clamps on. And then the other question is how

567
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: will the Thunder going going to garden Nikola Jokic. Instead

568
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: of chat on him, they started with Isaiah Hartenstein on

569
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: him and then they just didn't guard anybody else. They

570
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: completely swarmed him. You saw Jadub getting him on the

571
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: switch a lot, standing them up as much as he could,

572
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: and then it was just help off literally everybody. They're

573
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: not Garden Brown, they're not Garden Westbrook, they're not Garden Watson.

574
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: They're even risking it with Michael Porter Junior. They're just like,

575
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: maybe he can't get the shot up fast enough with

576
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: his hurd arm. Yeah, and kind of playing out correctly

577
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: for them. Gordon didn't do much either, only seventeen points

578
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: on sixteen field goal attempts. For Yokich, he had six

579
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: assists and six turnovers. Six of those assists or a

580
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: couple of those assists were like full quarters as well,

581
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: so he's got more turnovers than assists. He filed out.

582
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: You look at the box outs, there's three guys on him.

583
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: They're just saying, we're completely taking away Yokic. Maybe somebody

584
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: else can beat us, it ain't gonna be. Murray and

585
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: the other guys were not able to do it. Meanwhile,

586
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: the other guys for the Thunders totally. The Thunders showed up. Caruso.

587
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: He's had two good games. It was mostly just defense

588
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: in this one, but Isaiah Joe hit four threes. I

589
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: thought Wiggins was an absolute demon. He scored ten points

590
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: in the second quarter, and everyone felt like a highlight

591
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 3: play from him, Case and Wallace, a couple of steals

592
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: and a couple of threes. This was a perfect thunder game.

593
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: It was. It was a perfect thunder game. I thought

594
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: the defense on Jokic was real toilet bowl type of defense.

595
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't a hey, we're just kind of w and

596
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: let you pass out of it. It was a swirling

597
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: all around him. So they took away the passing lanes.

598
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 2: They did a great job of that, and occasionally they

599
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: throw a small guy at him that couldn't be pushed,

600
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: like an Alex Caruso turned into a turnover because Jokic

601
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: was offensive fouling him or a lou dort which would happen,

602
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: and he was just too tough to be taken out

603
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: of that toilet. They would just clog that thing up

604
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: enough enough. And that's why Yokic had six buckets, six turnovers,

605
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: and six fouls.

606
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: He seems frustrated with the physicality in this one and

607
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: the bodies and so many people swarming at him. I mean,

608
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: like you said, he got himself felled out. That last

609
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: one was the one where he was like jumping on

610
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: Jill and Williams's back if I remember rightly, Yes, the

611
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter, so game out of reach.

612
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: If anything, it's like good, Yeah, sit them down for

613
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: the entire fourth get ready for Game three. But yeah,

614
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: he was frustrated.

615
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't just taking away him. It was a

616
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: perfect game because they were able to take away the

617
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: lane and not let Westbrook or Christian Brown score in tight.

618
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: For them to only have twenty eight points in the paint,

619
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: just fourteen buckets, that just means, yes, you're incapable of

620
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: getting in there. They were able to move and that's

621
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: why it kicked. But when it came to fast break

622
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: points twenty six to five, that's the Nuggets deal. I mean,

623
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: they're so good at the fast breakpoints, but they couldn't

624
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: do it against this team. They turned over twenty times

625
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: the rebounds. Finally, the Thunder turned it around after Game

626
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: one after getting smashed. But eighty seven points in the

627
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: first half, six guys in double diggers, double figures. That's

628
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: a new playoff Riker. Eighty seven fricking points.

629
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: That's so many for.

630
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: It's year, man.

631
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean the next scored ninety one right here.

632
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, very different games last night, for sure. Yeah, I

633
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: mean watching went to watch in game three. I just

634
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: go back to like Dort on Jamal Murray, like they're

635
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna like Jamal has to help out Jokic, and but

636
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: that is either said than done when you're not like

637
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: when you're in the Dorcher chamber man like he was

638
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: all on him, Like it was like easily a game

639
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: plan shut that off, and like Dort lives for that,

640
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: and then we can worry about obviously throwing everybody else

641
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: at Yoki because we don't trust anybody else to shoot

642
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: on that team. But Jamal is gonna have to be

643
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: much much better in Denver to try and get this back.

644
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: I think out of the best obviously a split back

645
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: at home making a three game series, because you got

646
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: that first one in miraculous, miraculous fashion. So there, I mean,

647
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: look they're going back. They got the split, that's huge.

648
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: But this was an absolute beat down that I think

649
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: again maybe more people expected, probably in game one, but

650
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: maybe it was a bit of a rust factor there,

651
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: who knows, because they had had so much time off,

652
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: or they just weren't ready for the different type of matchup, and.

653
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: And Dort's so good at selling a pick that hit

654
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: him as well. Yo Jokic got hit by Yoki hit

655
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: him with one. There's a foul. Caruso get in under

656
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: Yokic's skin, there's a file and so they added up

657
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: obviously not they just have to didn't have to be

658
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: all defensive.

659
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot else from this one.

660
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Gordon's would bring the ball up more.

661
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, alleviate.

662
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like let Murray come and get the ball off

663
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: the second side action or something like that, save his

664
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: legs bringing the ball up the court. Maybe Westbrook initiating things.

665
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: It's risky, buddy, it's a risky call, but they need

666
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: somebody else to handle the ball besides Yokitch and Murray,

667
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: especially if Murray's going to be taken out of the

668
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: game by the physicality the door's bringing.

669
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, what do you think of the Denver excuse me?

670
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: The okay, see crowd changing how they received Russell Westbrook.

671
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: Game one, it was all ovation, applause. This one was

672
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: more leaning into the boose. Maybe part of that because

673
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: they lost Game one. Switch it on its head here.

674
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: You know, Westbrook had a fine game. I mean he's

675
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: a minus thirty, like all the other starters. I mean,

676
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: he came off the bench, so it's all a gat

677
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: an impact on winning. But he was like at least

678
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: getting into the free throw line a little bit. What

679
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: do you think about that move?

680
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: I didn't feel it watching the TV. Could you feel it?

681
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Not really? That was more pointed out of people in

682
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: the arena, But yeah, like I couldn't feel one way

683
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: or the other. Game one was it like, wow, we

684
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: were loving west.

685
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: Bright not really.

686
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: Game two is boo boo boo. Not really. So I'm

687
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: sure there's like eight people, you know, Andrew Schleckt is

688
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: hearing that guy's booing. I'll write that down. No, just

689
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: a beatdown. And it was pretty impressive and everybody contributed

690
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: for the thunder and it was nobody really having any

691
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: sort of answer for the Denver Nuggets. But they go

692
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: back one one.

693
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if they keep throwing a zone defense

694
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: at okay See. Two. Just seems like they're copping out

695
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: a little bit at times to see whether or not

696
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: okay See can shoot. But they didn't need to. They

697
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: just passed it so well and just got through their

698
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: holes of the Nuggets defense. So it's I think a

699
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: defense that wasn't incredible throughout the year and was got

700
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: better against the Clippers. I just will be watching that

701
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: because it didn't work. Obviously, gonna be.

702
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: Hard pressed to lose a playoff game when you shoot

703
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: fifty six percent from the floor, forty four from deep,

704
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: and then a cool ninety two at the line if

705
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: you want to round up. That's the old fifty forty

706
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: ninety for a team there. That's good, good percentages.

707
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and nine turnovers. Yeah, nine turnovers. So they're shooting

708
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: every time. Well, to go back yeating great percentages, yeah.

709
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: And to go back to like you've given praise to

710
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: SGA because he's averaging thirty three and a half I

711
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: think he said through these two games, and seven boards

712
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: and eate assists, so filling up the box score. Three

713
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: turnovers in seventy minutes for the lead point guard on

714
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: on the thunder, So like just masterful with the ball

715
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: right now. It's it's very easy. I guess what I'm

716
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: getting at four him. So they're gonna try and have

717
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: to speed him up, make him make some bad decisions.

718
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: Good luck with that because he's always in control. But

719
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: he is dominating right now, and it's like I know

720
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: you'll catch have the monster first game and that was

721
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: the big surprise, and then has had a quiet second one.

722
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: But like what SGA is doing here is proving like

723
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: this is why this guy's an MVP. Just goes down

724
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: a bit a little differently. So maybe and maybe you

725
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: need like a big game winner or a big huge

726
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: play at the end to get all the headlines. And

727
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: maybe that comes in this series because it is one one.

728
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: As I said, all right, let's get to some news.

729
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Warriors star Steph Curry will miss at least one week

730
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: of the playoffs after he was diagnosed with a Grade

731
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: one left hamstring strain. An exact return timeline will be

732
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: based on how he responds to rehab with the first

733
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: career muscle strain and the hamstring. At least for him,

734
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: he's never had this injury, so task he is set

735
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: to be out through at least Game four on Monday.

736
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: After that, Game five would be on May fourteenth, followed

737
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: by three days off before Game sixth on May eighteenth,

738
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: potential game seventh on May twentieth, So we're looking at

739
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: probably game five, maybe Game six, and maybe that all

740
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: depends on how the rest of the series goes and

741
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: how either the Wolves take control of it or the

742
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Warriors can sort of win one or two here without

743
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see.

744
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I wanted to be positive for the Golden

745
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: State Warriors, I'd say maybe they're just saying one week

746
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: to push it back so I don't get asked about it.

747
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: So every guy in the locker room is asked, Hey, Jimmy,

748
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: you think STEP's going back so they don't have to

749
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: deal with it. But then the negative side of me

750
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: says it ain't good. And Steph was quote crushed by

751
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: the hamstring injury and when it happened, that's what Steve

752
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: Kerr said, and the one week seems like one week.

753
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: So we're talking about game five, So this is no,

754
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: not good at all. I think a Minnesota team that

755
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: turns it around after round game one, I think we're

756
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: not going to see it bad as performance through these

757
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: next few games. Steph or no Steph. So I think

758
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: it's yeah, that's a bad recipe for the Warriors.

759
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: Your takeaways, Yeah, Game five is eight days after the injury.

760
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: They said he'll be reevaluated in one week, which doesn't

761
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: mean he's coming back in one week. So my guess

762
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: is that Game six is most likely because that's three

763
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: days after that, and it's eleven days. It's the playoffs.

764
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: The guy's going to push to play a little earlier

765
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: than he probably should. But still, the fact that there

766
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: was no timeline for his return, I think is disappointing

767
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 3: for the Warriors. But if they're in Nico Harrison mode,

768
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: let's look at that from a positive perspective. They need

769
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: to win one game, They need to win one of

770
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: the next three games to have a chance in this series.

771
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: Then they would be two to two heading into Game six.

772
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: With Steph Curry coming back. You're feeling confident at least there.

773
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: And can the Warriors win one more against the Timberwolves

774
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: with no Curry. I think it's possible. Their defense is awesome.

775
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: They completely shut down Minnesota in Game one. They've got

776
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: playoff Jimmy and as John Krazinski has mentioned a lot

777
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: of times at the Athletic Minnesota has lost a ton

778
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 3: of games this season when the other team is missing

779
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: their stars. They lost in Milwaukee without Giannison, Dame Miami

780
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: without Jimmy Butler, oddly enough, Sacramento without Jamart Rosen, the

781
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: Pacers without Halliburton, all of those were home games when

782
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: the other team was missing their best players. So the Timberwolves,

783
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: at least during the regular season, had a habit of

784
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 3: overlooking their competition. I think they would cruise to a victory.

785
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: They got to come out like they're playing against Steph Curry.

786
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I know Jane McDaniels was saying, not much

787
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: as different guarding Buddy Heel than Steph Curry. I like

788
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: the mindset. He's like, I gotta be as locked in

789
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: on Buddy as Steph. And that's exactly what it's got

790
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: to be. They got to come out and say, this

791
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: is a full strength team. We need to beat them down.

792
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I mean, everything you're hearing from

793
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: the Warriors seems to be Obviously, we're not gonna panic.

794
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: We did get Game one in a game which we

795
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: do lose Curry for half the game, and what happened

796
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: it was in Jimmy's Butler's hands for a majority of

797
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: that sort of second half there. They trust him and

798
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: Draymond Green to run the offense. They obviously believe in

799
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: their defense enough, it's been one of the best since

800
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: they added Jimmy Butler to the mix. At the deadline,

801
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, don't worry, we got Jimmy to

802
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: carry us. DRAYMONDA said it, Kerr has alluded to it.

803
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: I guess that's why you sort of make this deal, Like, yeah,

804
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: Curry makes everything go for the Warriors, but you went

805
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: and got Jimmy Butler a the deadline for maybe instances

806
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: like these where hey, man, you've done. You've taken a

807
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: team twice to the finals. Get us to basically like

808
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: you guys are saying, get us a game five or

809
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: six in like either down one or up one, Like

810
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: get us a game or two here. So he's important.

811
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: But what I look at is like all those other guys,

812
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: Buddy Healed, Pods, Gary Payton, the second to some extent,

813
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: like they're just gonna have to hit shots. They're gonna

814
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: have like as a sort of make up for the

815
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, the absence of Curry as a collective crew. Now,

816
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Buddy Heel is on one. He is like Curry right now.

817
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: But we've seen that, like come and go with Buddy Heel.

818
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: That's why Curry is the best. He's fairly damn consistent.

819
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: But Pods is somebody to watch here, Like at the

820
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: end of the regular season, he had three out of

821
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: four games where he was scoring over twenty points. He

822
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: had that big game four against the Rockets where he

823
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: scored twenty six he hit six threes, but since then,

824
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: he's only scored thirty points over the last four games.

825
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: And he can't shoot. He's six to twenty two from deep,

826
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Like that's like around twenty seven percent. So he's got

827
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: to like, that's got to be higher because he's gonna

828
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: get the looks and he's got to bang them down.

829
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: And then maybe we have a series here, because you

830
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: know the Wolves are gonna come out like a bat

831
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: at a hell. I assume tonight in Game two or

832
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: they should curry or no Curry because they got to win.

833
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Holy crap just fell here here.

834
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 3: I was actually frightening.

835
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I know you heard that one on

836
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: the part that's POD's knocking down a shot there. So

837
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: we'll see.

838
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: Pods he has. Yes, we'll see how you know, Jimmy said,

839
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: I'll come out and perform when I need to perform.

840
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: During the regular season, it is different against a monstrous frontline.

841
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: This is a huge frontline. We'll see if he can

842
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 2: repeat anything like he did from the Miami heat days.

843
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: He has been incredibly impressive at getting into the space,

844
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: drying contact, hitting the ground, selling it. He's been a

845
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: Jimmy bumper. Well he score twenty five to twenty eight

846
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: to thirty. He could easily, he could, and he has

847
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: had good games throughout this first round here and game

848
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: number one.

849
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: Also missed a game though in the first round. Let's

850
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: not forget he has his own injury that he's sort

851
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: of working through, dealing with with the pelvis contusion. Pelvis

852
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: so he's I mean, he's got to go through that.

853
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: But all these guys are basically banged up and injured

854
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: at this point. The elefant in the room, though, too,

855
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: is like, okay, let's say they even win one of these,

856
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: they get it to game six, Like, how does Curry

857
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: look when he returns from a hamstring injury, because unfortunately,

858
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: we've seen stars rush to get back and all that,

859
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: and it gets even worse and you re injured it

860
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: because it's such an injury where that's a concern with

861
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: your hammy though, it's like you come back too soon,

862
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: like you can reinjurre it quite easily. So there's that

863
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, we're not trying to just make

864
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: it sound like, get the game six, Curry comes back,

865
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: scores forty and fifty, and you win this thing. I

866
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: don't think that's the case. But they just got even

867
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: hope that even see Curry again or the Wolves take

868
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: control different injuries.

869
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking of Dame Lillard coming back, and he

870
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: was basically a decoy for the Bucks because he couldn't

871
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: move quite the same way he did. Who knows what

872
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: Curry will return and look like. But the Warriors have

873
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: such little shooting that you could run stuff out there

874
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: with one leg and it would be better than the

875
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 3: other options that they have. Having him out there is threatening.

876
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: They also need Draymond to shoot as well as he

877
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: did in Game one. The guy made four threes, nobody

878
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: was five. So they're gonna have to find their shooting

879
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: somewhere until stuff is back.

880
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like this. Jaden McDaniels philosophy of oh,

881
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 2: Steph's not there or just Buddy Heill is the new step.

882
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: You don't want to play defense like that. You don't

883
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: want to have four eyes on that guy at all times.

884
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: Want to play the lanes. You want to play better.

885
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: You want to play the other guys, and you play

886
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: every other guy one on one, it's a far different

887
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors team. We'll see though, you know, if

888
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: it is just one game that we need from games

889
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: three and four, probably because I think the Wolves will

890
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: take game too. But we'll see. But if it is

891
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: just one game, then yeah, it is a different story.

892
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Moving on, Fred Van Vliet and the Houston Rockets have

893
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: agreed to push back the deadline date on his forty

894
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: four point nine million dollar team option. This according to

895
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Schaum's at ESPN, So the deadline, which was originally May ninth,

896
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: which is tomorrow, is now pushed to June twenty ninth.

897
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: So all signs tray suggest he is going to be

898
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: back with the team next season, but we're figuring out

899
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: what that looks like. Do the Rockets pick up his option,

900
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: they could decline it, sign them to a longer term deal,

901
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: but maybe at a lower starting salary. So they're just

902
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: saying we will wait and see on this one. Were

903
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: you shocked by this at all or does this make

904
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: sense for both parts or at least from the Rocket

905
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: side of the things.

906
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if I was shocked by things, but

907
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have his contract expire when he could be

908
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: playing during the playoffs right for e Van Vliet could

909
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: literally still be playing right now. They were in a

910
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: game seven.

911
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: Oh we sure it may not be one of those

912
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: weird things that it's like so many days after you're

913
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: eliminated from I think it might.

914
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it is. Nonetheless, this makes complete sense from both sides.

915
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: They're not gonna give him, They're not gonna do his

916
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: team option. They're going to give him less money per

917
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 3: year for more years because he's a good culture guy

918
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: to have around. So Van Vliet is due for forty

919
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: four point nine million basically next year. I think it's

920
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: more likely he's at like thirty five million for three years.

921
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: That would be like what three years one oh five

922
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: or something like that, because good vet to have around,

923
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: good starter right now. If at the end of his contract,

924
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: when he's near in thirty five years old, will be

925
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: a good bench player to have around. The other thing

926
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: is he fits perfectly around star players. We saw it

927
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: with Kawhi Leonard when he showed up in Toronto for

928
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: one season. We know the Rockets are gonna be active

929
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: this offseason. Fred van Vliet is a guy who can

930
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: be your number one ball handler but also can be

931
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: your fourth option in a starting lineup.

932
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tomorrow that that number would have become guaranteed

933
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: for next season. So maybe it's a hey, if we're

934
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: in the conference finals, you're guaranteed next year. Man. That

935
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: is a different type of number, that's for sure. It

936
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: sure feels like they will say, we want you to

937
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: be a complimentary player, come cheaper man, just for a

938
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: few more years. That's the Raphael Soon's probably thinking.

939
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: And because you have extensions kicking in for your guys too, right,

940
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: and Cheng Gun and Jalen Green, I mean decisions to

941
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: be made with some of those guys as well. But yeah,

942
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: and there's other guys like I think Aaron Holland, I

943
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: mean lower down on the pecking order, but Aaron Holland,

944
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Ay and Jocquelandell they got some things like that. They're

945
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: getting into an expensive team, is my point. So hell yeah,

946
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: I assume they want to get Keith van Vleet because

947
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: he's important, especially as a culture guy, but like maybe

948
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: not forty five million, like you said, maybe a little

949
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: discount but will give you longer years.

950
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, next year's salaries have no one near

951
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: the max offer the Jalen Green and Shengoon. They chip

952
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: or they click in for thirty three million per so

953
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: there's still room. Raphael Stone has made a very interesting team.

954
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: But when they signed Fred, we all sort of thought

955
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: maybe he's too old and he's only thirty one, and

956
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: so he sure feels like he's doing enough. This was

957
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: a bad season for Fred. He didn't play well during

958
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: the regular season, shot thirty eight from the floor, thirty

959
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: four percent from three. It's a fifty one percent true

960
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: shooting percentage. But then he turned it up for that

961
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: one series sixty three point two percent true shooting percentage,

962
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: So it feels good. Raphael Stone must be saying, all right,

963
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm working on other deals to try in put together

964
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: one of those guys we named along with you know

965
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: you're Dylan Brooks and potentially are Atari Sanaja Bari Smith

966
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: to package for a big name. So he must be

967
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: working the numbers here.

968
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: And then finally here in the news, some good news

969
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: when it came to the Celtics, at least yesterday, the

970
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: NBA announced that Celtics guard Drew Holiday was named the

971
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: league's Social Justice Champion and will receive the Kareem Abdul

972
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: Jabbar Trophy that gave it to him last night before

973
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: the game. Hey, nice looking trophy those other ones, Yeah,

974
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 1: I liked it. The NBA will also donate one hundred

975
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: thousand to the Drew and Lauren Holiday Social Impact Fund.

976
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: So Drew not only ads or he does add to

977
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: his NBA Sportsmanship Award.

978
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: Ye ah.

979
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: So it gets this the Social Justice Champion.

980
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: Award, just one Twieman Stokes away from the trifecta of

981
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: good guy awards. Of course, Drew Holiday has won the

982
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: Twineman Stokes Award three times in his career, He's won

983
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: the Sportsmanship Award twice in his career, and this is

984
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: his first social Justice award. I think he's a good guy.

985
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 3: He's a well liked guy who does good things.

986
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Man. Lauren, Yeah, doing good work with their fun anything

987
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: to that to hear.

988
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: Well, No, I was just going through the stats of

989
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: everything he gets involved for people like he put in

990
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: four hundred hours of coaching and support to nearly two

991
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: hundred businesses across the US. That is just some man

992
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 2: hours there to get them helping out, along with giving

993
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: them five million in grants helping out black owned businesses

994
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: in HBCUs. And he's just an overall good guy. I

995
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: mean he quote this quote was, if you participate in

996
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: your community and in your country, your voice can be heard,

997
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: simple as that. Drew and Laura have been doing it

998
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: for a long time.

999
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Congrats to Drew Holiday on the award. All right, that's

1000
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: all the news I got. That was a quickie. Sadly,

1001
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: we only have one game on tonight, guys, just Warriors

1002
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: Wolves eight thirty Eastern on TNT. Can I just say,

1003
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: as an East Coaster, I think I can speak for

1004
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: all of us. I love these seven and nine to

1005
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: thirty starts. I mean, I guess we're helped out by

1006
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: there's really only one Super Western Conference team left as

1007
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: we have a lot in the in the Midwest area,

1008
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: so they're facing Jesus is a nice seven and nine thirty.

1009
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: We can we can do that. That's good because then

1010
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: you're not getting into like one of clock and am.

1011
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: When you got those ten thirty starts, it's a lot better.

1012
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: It's very nice.

1013
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean last night, so you can go to bed

1014
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: at like ten thirty after that blozz. No need to

1015
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: watch the second half of that one, but only that

1016
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: game on tonight. We'll be back here tomorrow with the

1017
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: Drop podcast, though, so some rapid fire fun potentially Worse

1018
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: of the Week five star Friday. I believe we're due four.

1019
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: We'll do some big picture questions when it comes to

1020
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs, maybe do some ranking in terms of teams

1021
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: you think are most likely to win this title, because

1022
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: this one feels wide open. I mean it's fairly open

1023
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: right now with all the way these series have gone

1024
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: in some of the elite looking teams here down two. Oh,

1025
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: So we'll get into that on tomorrow's podcast. If you're

1026
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: a Survivor fan, there was an episode of that last night.

1027
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: Let me just say it was more like the thunder

1028
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: Nuggets game than it was the Celtics. Not not the greatest,

1029
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: not the greatest episode of Survivor. A little disappointing, but

1030
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: we'll break it down. Nora will join us here in

1031
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: the Classic Factory one pm Eastern, No buffs. It's on

1032
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: YouTube feed podcast feed, so check that out. Otherwise, Clipper Bros.

1033
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up,

1034
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: love you guys awesome.

1035
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember we'll roll in the

1036
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: Worst of the Week tomorrow. For Paul Pierce. He's got

1037
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: to get in. But I won't mention the fave icon

1038
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 2: for Paul Pierce. I'm just gonna mention it now because

1039
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: that it's it's a terrible I don't like that kind

1040
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: of a good photo. I don't know it's him, those

1041
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: those glasses. Anyways, that's not gonna be part of the

1042
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: worst of the week. But Paul Pierce is a nominee.

1043
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: Brace