WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Lady Terminator 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.840 Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob Lamb. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.560 Today we have an episode that originally came out six 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:15.760 twenty seven five. It is our discussion of the infamously 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:21.640 wild nineteen eighty eight Indonesian full car Mockbuster Lady Terminator. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.520 We absolutely love this film. This was a lot of 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.360 fun to discuss on the show. So hey, let's let's 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.360 go ahead and pull the trigger on this one. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:43.640 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.280 Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:49.480 And this is Joe McCormick. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.159 For today's episode, I wanted to take our first steps 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.800 on Weird House Cinema into the world of Indonesian cinema 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.279 as I just recently returned from Indonesia. I'll share more 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.800 about that trip on subsequent episodes of Stuff to Blow 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.319 Your Mind, because I did get to experience some things 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.640 to tie into our core science episodes. But now having 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.880 enjoyed the natural beauty and hospitality of the Indonesian isles, 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.200 I also knew it was time to watch some of 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.280 its weirdest movies. 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:19.680 You picked a real winner for us today, Rob and 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.480 I'm not going to spoil it before you finish your 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.720 introduction to the film, but it's hard to imagine the 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.240 cinema of any country could get much weirder than the 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:29.520 movie we're talking about today. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:31.640 Well, you know, I think there's a strong case to 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.959 be made for weirder examples of Indonesian cinema, but this one, 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.399 I don't know. It lines up in several unique ways. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:40.760 I mean, I'll go ahead and mention it here for 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.800 anyone who hasn't looked at the title of the episode 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.360 we were talking about the nineteen eighty eight Indonesian folk 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.920 car Mockbuster Lady Terminator. Yes, it is all of those things. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.440 It's like if you wanted James Cameron's Terminator but you 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.240 thought it didn't have enough ancient deep sea sex goddesses 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:58.560 in it. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.000 Exactly yes, And you might also think to yourself, terminators good, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.880 but are there enough machine guns? Could there be more 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.799 machine guns? And you know, I dare say, without actually 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.960 going back and rewatching James Cameron's Terminator, I think this 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.240 film has more machine guns. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.600 I think that's without a doubt, and in fact, you 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.240 could you could since moments in this movie there's almost 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.919 like an anxiety you can feel going scene to scene 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.880 where it's like you since the filmmaker's wondering if they've 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.320 put enough gunfire into the scene yet, and so like 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.840 something will happen, characters will be talking, and then more 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.760 people will run into frame and start shooting guns again. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:40.480 It's crazy. Yeah, there's a point about between halfway and 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.080 two thirds into the film where it's just gonna be 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.720 machine guns for the duration, and it never gets boring. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.480 Like to their credit, I've said this on the show before. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.880 I can get quite bored with a movie that's just 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.359 shots of people shooting guns at each other like that 0:02:55.639 --> 0:03:00.480 can get really tedious. This maintains a hilarious level of 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:06.080 novelty throughout all of the Act two and Act three gunfights. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.240 It stays weird and it stays funny, and yeah, it 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.080 did not get boring for me at all. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.600 Yeah. We tend to talk about exploitation films and b 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.400 films that are cut above the rest, so it is 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.600 worth stressing that exploitation cinema is exactly where you tend 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:28.120 to find excess taken to the level of boredom, like 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.320 films that have a lot of nudity, for example, but 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.360 it's just meaningless and boring after a while. And the 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.800 same with violence, the same with gore, the same with 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.560 profanity or whatever flavor you happen to be over indulging in. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.839 Yeah, it's very easy as a filmmaker to make them 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.360 to have the mistaken belief that, like, violence is exciting, 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.440 and it's not true. Drama is exciting and violence can 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.960 be a form of drama. But but yeah, so a 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.840 lot of movies kind of go down that the wrong 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.840 path of just like lots of close ups of and 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.160 it just goes on, never really feels like it's building 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:09.200 to anything. This movie's action sequences are so bonker they 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.760 are bananas, and the dialogue during the action scenes especially 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.159 is some of the funniest stuff I can think of 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.359 I've seen in a B movie in a long time. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.320 Some aspects of the story might be confusing at times, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:26.080 character motivations and so forth, but there were multiple points 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.960 during my rewatch where I really had to stop and 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.520 remind myself that, you know, this action scene is totally 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.359 sticking together. Though I'm totally invested in the physical action 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.240 that's happening on screen, they are totally delivering when it 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.839 comes to the action. All right, At this point, I 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.000 do want to take just one step back and just 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:46.359 briefly talk about Indonesian cinema with more of an emphasis 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.640 on some of the exploitation cinema that perhaps more weird 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.320 house cinema listeners are familiar with. But of course, the 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.440 Republic of Indonesia covers some seventeen thousand islands in Southeast 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.320 Asia and Oceania, entailing multiple ethnic groups and the fourth 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.920 largest population of any country on Earth. There are a 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.920 lot of people there, and as discussed in a documentary 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:12.680 on Indonesian exploitation cinema on the Mondo Macabro disc that 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.120 I watched the film on, they point out that, of 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.600 course everyone in Indonesia loves movies, as it can be 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.719 said for pretty much every country on Earth. Like movies 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.520 are fun, people get into them, and so distinctly Indonesian 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.560 cinema I was reading elsewhere dates back to the nineteen twenties, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.159 with various domestic productions of note, but then heading into 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.440 the nineteen seventies, the market is dominated by foreign imports, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.599 films from the West, from India, from East Asia, and 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.279 so during the nineteen seventies, the Indonesian government decreed that 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.760 in order to import films, you also had to fund 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.680 domestic productions, and by nineteen seventy seven, according to that 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.320 Mando Macabro documentary, you had to make one Indonesian film 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.760 in order to import five international pictures. 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.000 Wow. I was not prepared for there to be a 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:02.080 policy backstory to us talking about Lady Terminator. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.719 I mean, you know, there are a lot of factors 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.000 that go into a movie like this coming together, and 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.640 obviously a lot of passion. I mean, there are so 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.200 many examples of films that have been made because of 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.880 some element of how they came together, is because of 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:18.320 tax breaks or some economic production factor, some sort of 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.640 slush fund or what have you. But yeah, so this 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.679 is just one wrinkle to where we end up entering 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.400 into what many people describe as a Golden age of 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:32.359 Indonesian genre film. A lot of these pictures were, you know, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.680 just definitely aimed at the working class and then you know, 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:40.000 and then a young folk. They often included plots that 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:46.159 entailed mystical adventure, action, horror, maybe a little bit of sexuality, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.600 and a lot of it was often colored by traditional folklore, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:55.279 Indonesian history, Dutch colonialism, and of course international film influences 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.920 that range from American blockbusters and Hong Kong action films 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.760 to Bollywood musical and so the nineteen seventies and nineteen 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.240 eighties end up providing this rich hall of genre films, 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.480 and many of these would go on to be distributed internationally, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:15.720 developed cult followings internationally, including pictures that a number of 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.640 you've probably are probably familiar with. Nineteen eighty six is 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.920 The Hungry Snake Woman starring Susanna who's like often described 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.280 as this as the scream Queen of Indonesia. Nineteen eighty 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.520 one's The Warrior starring Barry Prima, who's kind of often 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.600 talked about. I don't know who you would directly compare 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.160 him to, but he was like the big, the big 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.440 male action star of this time period. And then another 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:45.360 major selection from this era is nineteen eighty eight's Lady Terminator. Now, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:49.600 as we've been talking about here, Lady Terminator isn't just 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.360 a mockbuster rip off of nineteen eighty four as The Terminator, 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.160 I mean, it definitely is that it. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.000 Very much is that. I mean in like recreating scenes 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.800 and moments from Terminator, like line for line or shot sometimes. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.960 Right so it is definitely a terminator mockbuster. But on 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:10.400 the other hand, it is again a horror movie based 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:15.880 on to some degree on Indonesian folklore, specifically tales concerning 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:20.880 the South Sea Queen. And I believe my apologies if 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.960 I'm mispronouncing this, but Naya e rollro key Duel is 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:29.920 I believe the Indonesian name for this specific entity. And 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.760 I was reading some other material about the South Sea 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:37.680 Queen one a Princess from Sunda, published in Asian Folklore 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.240 Studies back in nineteen ninety seven by Robert Wessling, and 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.920 this author describes this entity as an exiled West Javanese 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.800 princess who then goes on to become the spirit queen 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.360 of the Indian Ocean. And as you might expect with 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.760 any kind of folklore tradition, she takes on different roles 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.480 in different tales and traditions. But in this film we 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.520 see are sort of boiled down to the form of 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:05.360 a venge full sexual oceanic entity, almost perhaps a demon, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.280 perhaps a divine force. I mean, the lines between these 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:09.959 distinctions are often grayed out. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.360 Kind of a super powerful salt water succubus. Yeah, like 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.400 a sex goddess. Witch who preys on men and commands 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.000 all the powers of the eel. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.200 Yes of the eel of the snake. Wet Wessing does 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.280 compare her to various other traditions in this region and 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.960 neighboring regions concerning things sort of like mermaids and certainly 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.560 serpent women and the like. And I should also add 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.000 that in various other Indonesian films from this time period, 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:42.920 other obviously you have hungry snake queens, you have crocodile queens. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.640 So this does feel like it's perhaps a familiar trope 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.800 in Indonesian folklore and certainly in exploitation cinema, based to 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.240 some degree on those folk tales. All right, well, elevator 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.120 pitch for this one. All I have to say is 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.880 the south Sea Queen cannot be reasoned with. She doesn't 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.360 feel pity or remort or fear, and she absolutely will 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.640 not stop ever until you're dead. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.040 Or until her machine gun jams. And then she has 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:09.040 to make a poudy face? 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.800 Does she do that? Does she make a powdy? 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.400 To be fair, that's not actually the south Sea Queen, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.120 that is the embodiment of the south Sea Queen's magic, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.400 Or I don't know, you tell me the south Sea 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:25.839 Queen herself inside the body of the Anthropologist that is 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.800 possessed and becomes Lady Terminator or is that just sort 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.280 of her magic is a curse place? Do you know 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:35.640 what I'm asking? Hmm, Yeah, the south Sea Queen physically 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.240 there in the body of what's her name. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.840 Yeah, it does seem like she is being puppeted to 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.600 some degree. Yeah, the the character of what Tania I 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.280 believe that is her name, Tanya the Anthropologist, the Anthropot 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:53.160 is the Lady Terminator. Yes, yeah, I think this is 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.280 a fair point. I feel like maybe the south Sea 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.000 Queen is not directly inside there, but is like at 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.400 a distance the master of this vengeful avatar. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.120 The other thing is, does the south Sea Queen actually 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:10.520 turn her into a robot like the T eight hundred Interminator. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.560 There are reasons for thinking that. For one thing, she 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.000 shoots lasers out of her eyes and seems to have 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.960 some kind of technological powers, like she gets at one point, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.960 she kind of gets her skin melted and seems to 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.480 have some kind of exoskeleton thing going on underneath there 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:31.720 like Interminator. But also there's no otherwise, there's no technological 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.720 tie in with the South Sea Queen. It would seem 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.839 to be just a magically possessed being. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.839 Yeah, I get the impression that via magical possession, her 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.280 body has taken on various supernatural aspects that make it 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.520 immune to bullets. Not completely immune to massive explosions, as 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.880 we'll see, but somewhat immune. And then also at some 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.120 point I beams come into the phraser eyes. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.920 Okay, yeah, those are magic laser eyes, not high tech 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:58.439 laser eyes. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.160 Right, that's magical energy. Okay, I don't know radiant damage 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.480 or something. All right, let's go ahead and listen, and 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.600 just just a little bit of the trailer here, not 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.320 the whole thing, but just a little bit to give 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.200 folks a taste. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.600 Sometimes the past should be left to memory, to gather 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.960 dust within the covers of recorded time. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.280 In one hundred years, I'll have my revenge on your 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:33.120 great granddaughter. Where the finds the secret of the South 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.040 Sea Queen will live in great danger of a song. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.240 Oh yes I will. But how was she to know? 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.760 Meet Tadya, an American anthropologist who travels to Indonesia in 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:50.760 search of suit. What she finds is that the legend 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.400 of the South Sea Queen is more than a story. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:56.400 It is her fate. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:06.080 Oh God, I love possession, revenge, insisuable, desire, and an 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.440 evil that will not die. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:18.560 Thank you Eric. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:25.760 That woman cannot die. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.400 All right now, If you want to watch Lady Terminator, 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.400 you can catch a stream here there, But the best 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.480 way to see this one as of this writing is 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.400 on the DVD from Mondo Micabro. We've talked about Mondo 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.880 Micabro releases before they put out a lot of great films. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.160 I rented it here from Atlanta's own video Drum, which 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.600 has a nice little selection of Indonesian horror films. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.800 I've got that disc. There is also a stream on 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.440 archive dot org I was checking out part of but 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.160 it's nice to have the packaging because then you get 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:03.360 to see the the extremely classy tagline for the film, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.040 which is first she mates, then she terminates. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.480 It rhymes, so I can't really argue with it, though 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.800 one does wonder how much mating she's actually doing in 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:15.320 this picture. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.720 Yeah, I guess somewhat less than expected. That's sort of 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.000 front loaded in the first half of the movie, but 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.240 there's plenty of terminating, I guess. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.400 Yeah, she's generally happy to skip the first part and 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.400 just get to the extermination mostly. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.320 She terminates, Yeah, all. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.040 Right, Well let's jump into the people behind this film, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.360 though I do have to stress that this is one 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.880 of those cases where there's not a lot of information 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.480 about everyone involved, and in some cases maybe I just 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.880 wasn't privy to that information or wasn't able to find it. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.960 But let's start at the top with the director, credited 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:51.280 as Jaliel Jackson. It is h Chahut Jaliel, who lived 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.320 nineteen thirty two through I Believe twenty fourteen. His death 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.680 date isn't listed on IMDb, but I've seen his death 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:01.240 date listed elsewhere. Indonesian director Act from I Believe nineteen 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.040 seventy four through nineteen ninety four. Director of numerous cult 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.960 favorite films, including nineteen eighty one's Mystics in Bali, a 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:13.720 horror movie full of Indonesian folkloric elements, including the panangle 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:18.000 and floating heads within trails, which if you haven't some 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.480 of you may be familiar with it from seeing Mystics 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.640 in Bali, but they're often given us fair amount of 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.920 attention in various monster books and folkloric treatments and so forth. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.840 Though I just had to google it. Yeah, I think 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.200 I've seen screenshots from this before where it's like it 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.480 looks like a doll's head floating and then just some 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.040 stuff dangling out of the neck. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:40.800 Yeah, this is one of the big ones that I 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.960 haven't seen it yet. This is my first foray into 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.120 in Indonesian horror, so I'll have to get to that one. 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.880 His other films include nineteen eighty one's The Warrior in 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.360 the Ninja starring Barry Prima, eighty six is Satan's Bed, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.160 nineteen eighty eight s White Crocodile Queens starring Susannah, and 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.440 nineteen ninety two's Dangerous Seductress. This was apparently his biggest 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.280 budgeted film up to that point, and I've read that 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:08.600 it did great business domestically before it was banned subsequently, 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.680 and I think there are different stories too about like 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.920 how did it get banned and somebody like essentially stab 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.560 it in the back? Was it importers of Western films 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.960 that were upset that this film was outperforming various international 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.120 pictures in Indonesia at the time. I'm not sure where 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.240 the truth lies and any of that, but of course 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.640 it would go on to earn its cult status internationally 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.800 as an import and I mean it's been screened ultimately internationally. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.160 So that's another point about watching this film is very 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.600 possible you might catch a rare screening of it on 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:41.680 the big screen here there. 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.520 I'm trying to imagine what so like American distributors are, like, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.040 nobody's going to the theaters to see Cocktail. They're just 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:53.040 buying more tickets to see The Lady Terminator. Again, We've 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.120 got to do something about this. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.840 Yeah, I don't know, But what. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.520 Else came out in eighty eight three Men in a 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.320 Baby like Yeah? 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.080 This is yeah, this is nothing on the same level 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:06.200 as Lady Terminator. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:06.639 All right. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:11.439 The credited writer here is one car Kruleinos. This is 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.959 his only credit on any of the movie databases that 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.760 I was able to look the film up on. He 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.160 also has a camera credit on this picture. I don't 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.359 so this is one of those where I have to 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:25.040 flag is this a real person? Is this is? I 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.800 have no idea. Evidently someone did write it. There was 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:28.360 a script. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.120 Yeah, And while we should mention I guess that if 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.919 we haven't already said this. The dialogue in the film 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.880 is dubbed in all of it is dubbed, but it 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.240 does usually match what the character's mouths are saying when 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.880 they're moving, so it's not live sound. But it does 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.080 appear that the dialogue is mostly as written and performed 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:50.960 by the actors in the scene, though there are some 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.320 very funny moments of what feel like lines subbed in later, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.840 like especially lines directly from Terminator. They just kind of 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.000 get come in from somebody speaking off screen. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.879 Yeah, Like there's one part we'll probably go back to 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.840 where you get the feeling where they that they were like, oh, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.359 we didn't we forgot to put in come with me 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:09.639 if you want to live, and so they just kind 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.480 of throw it in after an explosion, Come. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.720 With me, if you want to live. Yeah, it happens past. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.840 I don't do we see the guy's mouth. I don't remember, Yeah, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:22.359 we don't. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.000 All right, let's talk about the cast here. Oh the star. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:34.120 The title character, Lady Terminator or before she becomes Lady 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.560 Terminator Tanya, is played by Barbara and Constable. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:39.960 This is a classic case of don't you hate when 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.280 you you go scuba diving in order to complete research 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.639 for your anthropology PhD and you get turned into a terminator? 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.560 Yeah, go scuba diving by yourself. My wife was quick 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.199 to point out, oh, she has no body this is 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.520 You always go scuba diving with a buddy, even if 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.400 you're checking out mysterious ruins on these on the seafloor. 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.160 So who's Barbara Ann Constable here? 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.680 All right? Well, she's one of a kind, Australian dancer, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.320 turn model, turn actress. This is her only credited film 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.840 role on any of the databases as far as I 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.800 could tell, though, I've seen a couple of interviews with her, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.760 print interviews where she says that prior to this she 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.640 shot some sort of Chinese film in Shanghai. I think 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.000 she said it had ballet in it, but she didn't 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.320 know what the name of it was, and I don't 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.399 know that anyone has ever been able to track it down. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.520 So there may be another film out there in which 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.200 she appears to some degree, but for the most part 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.280 it's one and done, like this is her picture, and 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.440 I mean credit where credits do? I think she does 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.960 a great job here, at least once she's the terminator. 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.600 I mean, she's less believable as a human lady, but 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:50.640 once she is lady Terminator, I absolutely buy into it. 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.000 She was watching Terminator and taken notes like she's got 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.680 the physicality down. She does the kind of like three 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.040 point turn with her body really good. When she's going 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.480 around corners and the police station. The scenes are so 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:07.240 many scenes of her running around chasing the Erica or 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.960 heroine and just like kicking down doors in the police station, 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.080 the kicking motion. It really sticks with me. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.639 Oh yeah, yeah, I think she's tremendous here. I totally 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.119 buy into everything she's doing on the screen. So, based 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:22.760 on a couple of interviews, I was able to run 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.040 down her casting came out of some international modeling work 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.000 that she was doing while traveling around Asia, and she 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.280 agreed to this picture assuming that it would be a 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.560 purely domestic film and not something that would ultimately screen 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.480 anywhere else in the world. But yeah, as far as 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.080 amazing one and done B movie performances, I think she 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.000 might top the list. I can't think of anybody else 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.640 like this who just comes out of nowhere and then 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:51.560 also and then subsequently vanishes that excels to this degree. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.600 Like the closest I could think of is Warhawk Tanzania 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.120 in Devil's Express But even he had like one other 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.800 part in a film I think prior to that. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.280 Oh, okay, but I agree. I mean, if you see 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.040 Lady Terminator, you are not going to forget Barbara Ann 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.159 Constable's perfore She's going to be in your brain. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.480 Yeah, yeah, I mean, she has all the screen time 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.199 in the world here, and you just have to imagine 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.240 an alternate universe where she followed this up, either with 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:22.439 other Indonesian films or perhaps internationally, like maybe ended up 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.760 doing some films in Australia. 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.560 Or Lady Terminator too term harder. 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.280 Yeah, I mean, I'm down for that, or some other 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.320 film where she essentially plays the Lady Terminator. It just 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:36.399 seems like, especially for someone who didn't have a martial 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:40.760 arts background, she's so good in the action here. She's 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.040 totally believable. Apparently she had weapons training prior to filming, 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.639 which shows because she's firing a machine gun all the 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.240 time in this picture and at least to my untrained eyes, 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.160 like it's believable, and she's doing it with her eyes 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.000 wide open, which I understand takes a little bit of 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:59.320 effort to get that trick down as well. All right, 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.000 let's move in to the rest of the cast. I 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.080 get We'll have more to say about this terrific performance 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.200 as we if we move on. But our I guess 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.080 our hero of the picture. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.200 Our Reb Brown for the evening. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:16.040 Yes, our Reb Brown is Max, played by Christopher J. Hart. 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:20.240 This is his only film role. I believe. Constable describes 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.600