Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob Lamb.
Speaker 1: Today we have an episode that originally came out six
Speaker 1: twenty seven five. It is our discussion of the infamously
Speaker 1: wild nineteen eighty eight Indonesian full car Mockbuster Lady Terminator.
Speaker 1: We absolutely love this film. This was a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to discuss on the show. So hey, let's let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and pull the trigger on this one.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.
Speaker 3: And this is Joe McCormick.
Speaker 1: For today's episode, I wanted to take our first steps
Speaker 1: on Weird House Cinema into the world of Indonesian cinema
Speaker 1: as I just recently returned from Indonesia. I'll share more
Speaker 1: about that trip on subsequent episodes of Stuff to Blow
Speaker 1: Your Mind, because I did get to experience some things
Speaker 1: to tie into our core science episodes. But now having
Speaker 1: enjoyed the natural beauty and hospitality of the Indonesian isles,
Speaker 1: I also knew it was time to watch some of
Speaker 1: its weirdest movies.
Speaker 3: You picked a real winner for us today, Rob and
Speaker 3: I'm not going to spoil it before you finish your
Speaker 3: introduction to the film, but it's hard to imagine the
Speaker 3: cinema of any country could get much weirder than the
Speaker 3: movie we're talking about today.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think there's a strong case to
Speaker 1: be made for weirder examples of Indonesian cinema, but this one,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It lines up in several unique ways.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go ahead and mention it here for
Speaker 1: anyone who hasn't looked at the title of the episode
Speaker 1: we were talking about the nineteen eighty eight Indonesian folk
Speaker 1: car Mockbuster Lady Terminator. Yes, it is all of those things.
Speaker 3: It's like if you wanted James Cameron's Terminator but you
Speaker 3: thought it didn't have enough ancient deep sea sex goddesses
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 1: Exactly yes, And you might also think to yourself, terminators good,
Speaker 1: but are there enough machine guns? Could there be more
Speaker 1: machine guns? And you know, I dare say, without actually
Speaker 1: going back and rewatching James Cameron's Terminator, I think this
Speaker 1: film has more machine guns.
Speaker 3: I think that's without a doubt, and in fact, you
Speaker 3: could you could since moments in this movie there's almost
Speaker 3: like an anxiety you can feel going scene to scene
Speaker 3: where it's like you since the filmmaker's wondering if they've
Speaker 3: put enough gunfire into the scene yet, and so like
Speaker 3: something will happen, characters will be talking, and then more
Speaker 3: people will run into frame and start shooting guns again.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, there's a point about between halfway and
Speaker 1: two thirds into the film where it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: machine guns for the duration, and it never gets boring.
Speaker 1: Like to their credit, I've said this on the show before.
Speaker 3: I can get quite bored with a movie that's just
Speaker 3: shots of people shooting guns at each other like that
Speaker 3: can get really tedious. This maintains a hilarious level of
Speaker 3: novelty throughout all of the Act two and Act three gunfights.
Speaker 3: It stays weird and it stays funny, and yeah, it
Speaker 3: did not get boring for me at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We tend to talk about exploitation films and b
Speaker 1: films that are cut above the rest, so it is
Speaker 1: worth stressing that exploitation cinema is exactly where you tend
Speaker 1: to find excess taken to the level of boredom, like
Speaker 1: films that have a lot of nudity, for example, but
Speaker 1: it's just meaningless and boring after a while. And the
Speaker 1: same with violence, the same with gore, the same with
Speaker 1: profanity or whatever flavor you happen to be over indulging in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very easy as a filmmaker to make them
Speaker 3: to have the mistaken belief that, like, violence is exciting,
Speaker 3: and it's not true. Drama is exciting and violence can
Speaker 3: be a form of drama. But but yeah, so a
Speaker 3: lot of movies kind of go down that the wrong
Speaker 3: path of just like lots of close ups of and
Speaker 3: it just goes on, never really feels like it's building
Speaker 3: to anything. This movie's action sequences are so bonker they
Speaker 3: are bananas, and the dialogue during the action scenes especially
Speaker 3: is some of the funniest stuff I can think of
Speaker 3: I've seen in a B movie in a long time.
Speaker 1: Some aspects of the story might be confusing at times,
Speaker 1: character motivations and so forth, but there were multiple points
Speaker 1: during my rewatch where I really had to stop and
Speaker 1: remind myself that, you know, this action scene is totally
Speaker 1: sticking together. Though I'm totally invested in the physical action
Speaker 1: that's happening on screen, they are totally delivering when it
Speaker 1: comes to the action. All right, At this point, I
Speaker 1: do want to take just one step back and just
Speaker 1: briefly talk about Indonesian cinema with more of an emphasis
Speaker 1: on some of the exploitation cinema that perhaps more weird
Speaker 1: house cinema listeners are familiar with. But of course, the
Speaker 1: Republic of Indonesia covers some seventeen thousand islands in Southeast
Speaker 1: Asia and Oceania, entailing multiple ethnic groups and the fourth
Speaker 1: largest population of any country on Earth. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of people there, and as discussed in a documentary
Speaker 1: on Indonesian exploitation cinema on the Mondo Macabro disc that
Speaker 1: I watched the film on, they point out that, of
Speaker 1: course everyone in Indonesia loves movies, as it can be
Speaker 1: said for pretty much every country on Earth. Like movies
Speaker 1: are fun, people get into them, and so distinctly Indonesian
Speaker 1: cinema I was reading elsewhere dates back to the nineteen twenties,
Speaker 1: with various domestic productions of note, but then heading into
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, the market is dominated by foreign imports,
Speaker 1: films from the West, from India, from East Asia, and
Speaker 1: so during the nineteen seventies, the Indonesian government decreed that
Speaker 1: in order to import films, you also had to fund
Speaker 1: domestic productions, and by nineteen seventy seven, according to that
Speaker 1: Mando Macabro documentary, you had to make one Indonesian film
Speaker 1: in order to import five international pictures.
Speaker 3: Wow. I was not prepared for there to be a
Speaker 3: policy backstory to us talking about Lady Terminator.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there are a lot of factors
Speaker 1: that go into a movie like this coming together, and
Speaker 1: obviously a lot of passion. I mean, there are so
Speaker 1: many examples of films that have been made because of
Speaker 1: some element of how they came together, is because of
Speaker 1: tax breaks or some economic production factor, some sort of
Speaker 1: slush fund or what have you. But yeah, so this
Speaker 1: is just one wrinkle to where we end up entering
Speaker 1: into what many people describe as a Golden age of
Speaker 1: Indonesian genre film. A lot of these pictures were, you know,
Speaker 1: just definitely aimed at the working class and then you know,
Speaker 1: and then a young folk. They often included plots that
Speaker 1: entailed mystical adventure, action, horror, maybe a little bit of sexuality,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was often colored by traditional folklore,
Speaker 1: Indonesian history, Dutch colonialism, and of course international film influences
Speaker 1: that range from American blockbusters and Hong Kong action films
Speaker 1: to Bollywood musical and so the nineteen seventies and nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties end up providing this rich hall of genre films,
Speaker 1: and many of these would go on to be distributed internationally,
Speaker 1: developed cult followings internationally, including pictures that a number of
Speaker 1: you've probably are probably familiar with. Nineteen eighty six is
Speaker 1: The Hungry Snake Woman starring Susanna who's like often described
Speaker 1: as this as the scream Queen of Indonesia. Nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: one's The Warrior starring Barry Prima, who's kind of often
Speaker 1: talked about. I don't know who you would directly compare
Speaker 1: him to, but he was like the big, the big
Speaker 1: male action star of this time period. And then another
Speaker 1: major selection from this era is nineteen eighty eight's Lady Terminator. Now,
Speaker 1: as we've been talking about here, Lady Terminator isn't just
Speaker 1: a mockbuster rip off of nineteen eighty four as The Terminator,
Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely is that it.
Speaker 3: Very much is that. I mean in like recreating scenes
Speaker 3: and moments from Terminator, like line for line or shot sometimes.
Speaker 1: Right so it is definitely a terminator mockbuster. But on
Speaker 1: the other hand, it is again a horror movie based
Speaker 1: on to some degree on Indonesian folklore, specifically tales concerning
Speaker 1: the South Sea Queen. And I believe my apologies if
Speaker 1: I'm mispronouncing this, but Naya e rollro key Duel is
Speaker 1: I believe the Indonesian name for this specific entity. And
Speaker 1: I was reading some other material about the South Sea
Speaker 1: Queen one a Princess from Sunda, published in Asian Folklore
Speaker 1: Studies back in nineteen ninety seven by Robert Wessling, and
Speaker 1: this author describes this entity as an exiled West Javanese
Speaker 1: princess who then goes on to become the spirit queen
Speaker 1: of the Indian Ocean. And as you might expect with
Speaker 1: any kind of folklore tradition, she takes on different roles
Speaker 1: in different tales and traditions. But in this film we
Speaker 1: see are sort of boiled down to the form of
Speaker 1: a venge full sexual oceanic entity, almost perhaps a demon,
Speaker 1: perhaps a divine force. I mean, the lines between these
Speaker 1: distinctions are often grayed out.
Speaker 3: Kind of a super powerful salt water succubus. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: a sex goddess. Witch who preys on men and commands
Speaker 3: all the powers of the eel.
Speaker 1: Yes of the eel of the snake. Wet Wessing does
Speaker 1: compare her to various other traditions in this region and
Speaker 1: neighboring regions concerning things sort of like mermaids and certainly
Speaker 1: serpent women and the like. And I should also add
Speaker 1: that in various other Indonesian films from this time period,
Speaker 1: other obviously you have hungry snake queens, you have crocodile queens.
Speaker 1: So this does feel like it's perhaps a familiar trope
Speaker 1: in Indonesian folklore and certainly in exploitation cinema, based to
Speaker 1: some degree on those folk tales. All right, well, elevator
Speaker 1: pitch for this one. All I have to say is
Speaker 1: the south Sea Queen cannot be reasoned with. She doesn't
Speaker 1: feel pity or remort or fear, and she absolutely will
Speaker 1: not stop ever until you're dead.
Speaker 3: Or until her machine gun jams. And then she has
Speaker 3: to make a poudy face?
Speaker 1: Does she do that? Does she make a powdy?
Speaker 3: To be fair, that's not actually the south Sea Queen,
Speaker 3: that is the embodiment of the south Sea Queen's magic,
Speaker 3: Or I don't know, you tell me the south Sea
Speaker 3: Queen herself inside the body of the Anthropologist that is
Speaker 3: possessed and becomes Lady Terminator or is that just sort
Speaker 3: of her magic is a curse place? Do you know
Speaker 3: what I'm asking? Hmm, Yeah, the south Sea Queen physically
Speaker 3: there in the body of what's her name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does seem like she is being puppeted to
Speaker 1: some degree. Yeah, the the character of what Tania I
Speaker 1: believe that is her name, Tanya the Anthropologist, the Anthropot
Speaker 1: is the Lady Terminator. Yes, yeah, I think this is
Speaker 1: a fair point. I feel like maybe the south Sea
Speaker 1: Queen is not directly inside there, but is like at
Speaker 1: a distance the master of this vengeful avatar.
Speaker 3: The other thing is, does the south Sea Queen actually
Speaker 3: turn her into a robot like the T eight hundred Interminator.
Speaker 3: There are reasons for thinking that. For one thing, she
Speaker 3: shoots lasers out of her eyes and seems to have
Speaker 3: some kind of technological powers, like she gets at one point,
Speaker 3: she kind of gets her skin melted and seems to
Speaker 3: have some kind of exoskeleton thing going on underneath there
Speaker 3: like Interminator. But also there's no otherwise, there's no technological
Speaker 3: tie in with the South Sea Queen. It would seem
Speaker 3: to be just a magically possessed being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get the impression that via magical possession, her
Speaker 1: body has taken on various supernatural aspects that make it
Speaker 1: immune to bullets. Not completely immune to massive explosions, as
Speaker 1: we'll see, but somewhat immune. And then also at some
Speaker 1: point I beams come into the phraser eyes.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, those are magic laser eyes, not high tech
Speaker 3: laser eyes.
Speaker 1: Right, that's magical energy. Okay, I don't know radiant damage
Speaker 1: or something. All right, let's go ahead and listen, and
Speaker 1: just just a little bit of the trailer here, not
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but just a little bit to give
Speaker 1: folks a taste.
Speaker 4: Sometimes the past should be left to memory, to gather
Speaker 4: dust within the covers of recorded time.
Speaker 5: In one hundred years, I'll have my revenge on your
Speaker 5: great granddaughter. Where the finds the secret of the South
Speaker 5: Sea Queen will live in great danger of a song.
Speaker 3: Oh yes I will. But how was she to know?
Speaker 5: Meet Tadya, an American anthropologist who travels to Indonesia in
Speaker 5: search of suit. What she finds is that the legend
Speaker 5: of the South Sea Queen is more than a story.
Speaker 3: It is her fate.
Speaker 4: Oh God, I love possession, revenge, insisuable, desire, and an
Speaker 4: evil that will not die.
Speaker 3: Thank you Eric.
Speaker 5: That woman cannot die.
Speaker 1: All right now, If you want to watch Lady Terminator,
Speaker 1: you can catch a stream here there, But the best
Speaker 1: way to see this one as of this writing is
Speaker 1: on the DVD from Mondo Micabro. We've talked about Mondo
Speaker 1: Micabro releases before they put out a lot of great films.
Speaker 1: I rented it here from Atlanta's own video Drum, which
Speaker 1: has a nice little selection of Indonesian horror films.
Speaker 3: I've got that disc. There is also a stream on
Speaker 3: archive dot org I was checking out part of but
Speaker 3: it's nice to have the packaging because then you get
Speaker 3: to see the the extremely classy tagline for the film,
Speaker 3: which is first she mates, then she terminates.
Speaker 1: It rhymes, so I can't really argue with it, though
Speaker 1: one does wonder how much mating she's actually doing in
Speaker 1: this picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess somewhat less than expected. That's sort of
Speaker 3: front loaded in the first half of the movie, but
Speaker 3: there's plenty of terminating, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's generally happy to skip the first part and
Speaker 1: just get to the extermination mostly.
Speaker 3: She terminates, Yeah, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Well let's jump into the people behind this film,
Speaker 1: though I do have to stress that this is one
Speaker 1: of those cases where there's not a lot of information
Speaker 1: about everyone involved, and in some cases maybe I just
Speaker 1: wasn't privy to that information or wasn't able to find it.
Speaker 1: But let's start at the top with the director, credited
Speaker 1: as Jaliel Jackson. It is h Chahut Jaliel, who lived
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty two through I Believe twenty fourteen. His death
Speaker 1: date isn't listed on IMDb, but I've seen his death
Speaker 1: date listed elsewhere. Indonesian director Act from I Believe nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy four through nineteen ninety four. Director of numerous cult
Speaker 1: favorite films, including nineteen eighty one's Mystics in Bali, a
Speaker 1: horror movie full of Indonesian folkloric elements, including the panangle
Speaker 1: and floating heads within trails, which if you haven't some
Speaker 1: of you may be familiar with it from seeing Mystics
Speaker 1: in Bali, but they're often given us fair amount of
Speaker 1: attention in various monster books and folkloric treatments and so forth.
Speaker 3: Though I just had to google it. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I've seen screenshots from this before where it's like it
Speaker 3: looks like a doll's head floating and then just some
Speaker 3: stuff dangling out of the neck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of the big ones that I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. This is my first foray into
Speaker 1: in Indonesian horror, so I'll have to get to that one.
Speaker 1: His other films include nineteen eighty one's The Warrior in
Speaker 1: the Ninja starring Barry Prima, eighty six is Satan's Bed,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight s White Crocodile Queens starring Susannah, and
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two's Dangerous Seductress. This was apparently his biggest
Speaker 1: budgeted film up to that point, and I've read that
Speaker 1: it did great business domestically before it was banned subsequently,
Speaker 1: and I think there are different stories too about like
Speaker 1: how did it get banned and somebody like essentially stab
Speaker 1: it in the back? Was it importers of Western films
Speaker 1: that were upset that this film was outperforming various international
Speaker 1: pictures in Indonesia at the time. I'm not sure where
Speaker 1: the truth lies and any of that, but of course
Speaker 1: it would go on to earn its cult status internationally
Speaker 1: as an import and I mean it's been screened ultimately internationally.
Speaker 1: So that's another point about watching this film is very
Speaker 1: possible you might catch a rare screening of it on
Speaker 1: the big screen here there.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to imagine what so like American distributors are, like,
Speaker 3: nobody's going to the theaters to see Cocktail. They're just
Speaker 3: buying more tickets to see The Lady Terminator. Again, We've
Speaker 3: got to do something about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, But what.
Speaker 3: Else came out in eighty eight three Men in a
Speaker 3: Baby like Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is nothing on the same level
Speaker 1: as Lady Terminator.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: The credited writer here is one car Kruleinos. This is
Speaker 1: his only credit on any of the movie databases that
Speaker 1: I was able to look the film up on. He
Speaker 1: also has a camera credit on this picture. I don't
Speaker 1: so this is one of those where I have to
Speaker 1: flag is this a real person? Is this is? I
Speaker 1: have no idea. Evidently someone did write it. There was
Speaker 1: a script.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And while we should mention I guess that if
Speaker 3: we haven't already said this. The dialogue in the film
Speaker 3: is dubbed in all of it is dubbed, but it
Speaker 3: does usually match what the character's mouths are saying when
Speaker 3: they're moving, so it's not live sound. But it does
Speaker 3: appear that the dialogue is mostly as written and performed
Speaker 3: by the actors in the scene, though there are some
Speaker 3: very funny moments of what feel like lines subbed in later,
Speaker 3: like especially lines directly from Terminator. They just kind of
Speaker 3: get come in from somebody speaking off screen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's one part we'll probably go back to
Speaker 1: where you get the feeling where they that they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't we forgot to put in come with me
Speaker 1: if you want to live, and so they just kind
Speaker 1: of throw it in after an explosion, Come.
Speaker 3: With me, if you want to live. Yeah, it happens past.
Speaker 3: I don't do we see the guy's mouth. I don't remember, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the cast here. Oh the star.
Speaker 1: The title character, Lady Terminator or before she becomes Lady
Speaker 1: Terminator Tanya, is played by Barbara and Constable.
Speaker 3: This is a classic case of don't you hate when
Speaker 3: you you go scuba diving in order to complete research
Speaker 3: for your anthropology PhD and you get turned into a terminator?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go scuba diving by yourself. My wife was quick
Speaker 1: to point out, oh, she has no body this is
Speaker 1: You always go scuba diving with a buddy, even if
Speaker 1: you're checking out mysterious ruins on these on the seafloor.
Speaker 3: So who's Barbara Ann Constable here?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, she's one of a kind, Australian dancer,
Speaker 1: turn model, turn actress. This is her only credited film
Speaker 1: role on any of the databases as far as I
Speaker 1: could tell, though, I've seen a couple of interviews with her,
Speaker 1: print interviews where she says that prior to this she
Speaker 1: shot some sort of Chinese film in Shanghai. I think
Speaker 1: she said it had ballet in it, but she didn't
Speaker 1: know what the name of it was, and I don't
Speaker 1: know that anyone has ever been able to track it down.
Speaker 1: So there may be another film out there in which
Speaker 1: she appears to some degree, but for the most part
Speaker 1: it's one and done, like this is her picture, and
Speaker 1: I mean credit where credits do? I think she does
Speaker 1: a great job here, at least once she's the terminator.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's less believable as a human lady, but
Speaker 1: once she is lady Terminator, I absolutely buy into it.
Speaker 3: She was watching Terminator and taken notes like she's got
Speaker 3: the physicality down. She does the kind of like three
Speaker 3: point turn with her body really good. When she's going
Speaker 3: around corners and the police station. The scenes are so
Speaker 3: many scenes of her running around chasing the Erica or
Speaker 3: heroine and just like kicking down doors in the police station,
Speaker 3: the kicking motion. It really sticks with me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think she's tremendous here. I totally
Speaker 1: buy into everything she's doing on the screen. So, based
Speaker 1: on a couple of interviews, I was able to run
Speaker 1: down her casting came out of some international modeling work
Speaker 1: that she was doing while traveling around Asia, and she
Speaker 1: agreed to this picture assuming that it would be a
Speaker 1: purely domestic film and not something that would ultimately screen
Speaker 1: anywhere else in the world. But yeah, as far as
Speaker 1: amazing one and done B movie performances, I think she
Speaker 1: might top the list. I can't think of anybody else
Speaker 1: like this who just comes out of nowhere and then
Speaker 1: also and then subsequently vanishes that excels to this degree.
Speaker 1: Like the closest I could think of is Warhawk Tanzania
Speaker 1: in Devil's Express But even he had like one other
Speaker 1: part in a film I think prior to that.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, but I agree. I mean, if you see
Speaker 3: Lady Terminator, you are not going to forget Barbara Ann
Speaker 3: Constable's perfore She's going to be in your brain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, she has all the screen time
Speaker 1: in the world here, and you just have to imagine
Speaker 1: an alternate universe where she followed this up, either with
Speaker 1: other Indonesian films or perhaps internationally, like maybe ended up
Speaker 1: doing some films in Australia.
Speaker 3: Or Lady Terminator too term harder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm down for that, or some other
Speaker 1: film where she essentially plays the Lady Terminator. It just
Speaker 1: seems like, especially for someone who didn't have a martial
Speaker 1: arts background, she's so good in the action here. She's
Speaker 1: totally believable. Apparently she had weapons training prior to filming,
Speaker 1: which shows because she's firing a machine gun all the
Speaker 1: time in this picture and at least to my untrained eyes,
Speaker 1: like it's believable, and she's doing it with her eyes
Speaker 1: wide open, which I understand takes a little bit of
Speaker 1: effort to get that trick down as well. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move in to the rest of the cast. I
Speaker 1: get We'll have more to say about this terrific performance
Speaker 1: as we if we move on. But our I guess
Speaker 1: our hero of the picture.
Speaker 3: Our Reb Brown for the evening.
Speaker 1: Yes, our Reb Brown is Max, played by Christopher J. Hart.
Speaker 1: This is his only film role. I believe. Constable describes
Speaker 1: him as an expat working in Jakarta at the time,
Speaker 1: possibly an engineer. I don't know that she knew or remembered.
Speaker 1: I tried to find out any additional information on this guy.
Speaker 1: I did find an Atlanta area surgeon with the same name,
Speaker 1: and I really wanted it to be the same guy.
Speaker 1: But I have to admit to myself that I think
Speaker 1: these are two different people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a coincidence. Well, this guy has real blast
Speaker 3: hard cheese energy. As I said, he's very Reb Brown,
Speaker 3: square jawed, hunky guy with blonde hair, who's just a
Speaker 3: slab of meat there to be our hero, and he's
Speaker 3: got a real I don't know his delivery. There's one
Speaker 3: moment that I think we were talking about off Mike.
Speaker 3: I didn't already say this on the episode, did I about?
Speaker 3: There's one moment that I think kind of sums up
Speaker 3: his performance, though this is attributable to the writing as well.
Speaker 3: So it's copying lots of scenes from Terminator. And you
Speaker 3: remember the scene from Terminator where Kyle Reese, the soldier
Speaker 3: from the future who has come back in time to
Speaker 3: protect Sarah Connor. He's been shot and she's helping him
Speaker 3: and she's like, She's like, your bullet wound, doesn't it hurt?
Speaker 3: And he says in Terminator pain can be controlled, you
Speaker 3: just disconnect it. In this movie, it recreates that scene
Speaker 3: and he's got a bullet wound and she the Erica character,
Speaker 3: is like, doesn't it hurt? And he's like nah. And
Speaker 3: that's Max here.
Speaker 1: So Erica is the heroin I guess, or at least
Speaker 1: the damsel in distress, well, the Sarah Connor role, the
Speaker 1: Sarah Connor role, except what if Sarah Connor like wasn't
Speaker 1: also like pretty tough and self gone. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to take anything away from Erica.
Speaker 3: But I look, Erica, she make her a singer in
Speaker 3: this movie.
Speaker 1: It's true she's a singer. She has presumably a good voice.
Speaker 1: I don't know we actually hear that voice, but I believe,
Speaker 1: through the magic of cinema that she has one.
Speaker 3: I feel like this is another leveling up choice they made.
Speaker 3: So they wanted to recreate the tech noir club sequence
Speaker 3: from Terminator, but they but they were like, what if
Speaker 3: instead the Sarah Connor character was not just waiting in
Speaker 3: tech noir for the police to arrive and help her,
Speaker 3: but she was actually singing on stage and giving a performance.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's good, Okay, that is a level up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's a great sequence. I look forward to
Speaker 1: talking about that one. It's like a like a disco
Speaker 1: tech number, a full musical number ahead of the rampage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a tech noir club with a guy who looks
Speaker 3: like Geddy Lee and a cowboy hat and sunglasses tending bar.
Speaker 1: Yes, and Erica is played here by Claudia Angeliqe Ratamaker,
Speaker 1: again her only film croll a role here, so I
Speaker 1: don't know anything else about her, but she does a
Speaker 1: perfectly fine job here. All right, Now, there is a there.
Speaker 1: There is a group of gentlemen that help Max out.
Speaker 1: Some of them are total red shirts, but at least
Speaker 1: three of them, maybe more. There are guys with mustaches,
Speaker 1: like there are white dudes with with mustaches that get
Speaker 1: I get confused with in this picture, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if we're dealing with one mustachioed Caucasian guy or multiple
Speaker 1: mustachioed Caucasian guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one beef guy who's essentially a copy of Max,
Speaker 3: but change it to brown hair and add the mustache,
Speaker 3: so he's the muscle guy. And then you've got should
Speaker 3: we can we talk about Snake for a minute. Snake's
Speaker 3: my favorite character in the film.
Speaker 1: Snake is terrific. So out of these so out of
Speaker 1: these gentlemen, it's like Max has essentially three buddies, white
Speaker 1: dude with a mustache and two Indonesian gentlemen. One one
Speaker 1: is serious and one is the obvious ham at the
Speaker 1: bunch and that's that's Snake. Strong stoner vibes for Snake.
Speaker 3: Wait, am I thinking of the right guy? Snake is
Speaker 3: the guy with the blonde mullet with yes.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, okay, yes, that is Snake played by Adam Stardust.
Speaker 3: Is that a real name?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: And this may not be his you know, birth name either,
Speaker 1: but he's also known as Adam Jugwani. And while this
Speaker 1: is Adam Stardust slash, Adam Juguani's only film role on
Speaker 1: the major film databasis. He is seemingly still around and
Speaker 1: is a DJ with an easy to find social media
Speaker 1: footprint in I believe in Indonesia. He is quote existing
Speaker 1: at sixty living in the eighties. Some more power to him.
Speaker 1: You can look him up on YouTube. He's got mixes
Speaker 1: at parties. This dude is still still out there partying hard.
Speaker 3: When he gets blasted by the laser beams from Lady
Speaker 3: Terminator's eyes, I gasped, I made a noise. It was
Speaker 3: It was a terrible loss.
Speaker 1: You don't really expect the comic relief character to just
Speaker 1: get eye blasted. Generally they get to survive.
Speaker 3: Not Snake. They couldn't do that to Snake, all.
Speaker 1: Right, the mustachioed guy. And I may be wrong. There
Speaker 1: are different parts in the dub where I feel like
Speaker 1: certain characters could refer to by a confusingly different.
Speaker 3: Name Tom, and which one was Tom?
Speaker 1: Tom? Okay, so Tom the best friend. Tom is the
Speaker 1: best friend. But there's a point where somebody blows up
Speaker 1: in a helicopter and they also call that guy Tom.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought I heard, too, Okay, but that
Speaker 3: wasn't the same guy.
Speaker 1: Right, Tom on the ground, Tom a best friend Tom
Speaker 1: is played by e King Fozzy born nineteen fifty nine,
Speaker 1: Indonesian rock star of the nineteen eighties. You can look
Speaker 1: him up on discogs multiple releases as an actor active
Speaker 1: through at least twenty twenty three. And I certainly don't
Speaker 1: know much about Indonesian cinema outside of some of these
Speaker 1: exploitation pictures, but it seems like his roles outside of
Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties were actually supporting roles in more
Speaker 1: serious films, more like mainstream fare.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm glad he got to play around and
Speaker 3: stuff like this though, because he's fun too. He is
Speaker 3: this the guy who when they're like escaping the police station,
Speaker 3: he gets shot and you think he's dead, and then
Speaker 3: he comes back later and they're like, oh, you're alive,
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, I am, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then spoilers, but he also gets shot again
Speaker 1: and you think he's dead, like this time for real,
Speaker 1: but then he seems to survive and then possibly die again.
Speaker 1: We're not sure, all right, And then finally white guy
Speaker 1: with the mustache, or at least the main one, the
Speaker 1: one that factors into the final battle, is played by
Speaker 1: Joseph p. McGlenn. I think this character's name is Joe,
Speaker 1: but he might also be referred to his tank. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. As far as I could tell, he
Speaker 1: was a helicopter pilot working in Indonesia at the time.
Speaker 1: This is his only film credit. I may or may
Speaker 1: not have found his LinkedIn profile.
Speaker 3: You gonna hire him?
Speaker 1: No, I think he's retired. But oh, okay, But if
Speaker 1: I need somebody to go up against a killer female robot,
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna sign up for LinkedIn pro and
Speaker 1: contact him. I guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, what about our mage class here? Yes? Don't
Speaker 3: we also in the party have a wise old wizard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our van helson of the group who consults grand
Speaker 1: uncle Masabu played by an actor credited as h I M.
Speaker 1: Damsik who lived nineteen twenty nine through twenty twelve, very
Speaker 1: slender Indonesian actor with credits seemingly strewn across numerous tantalizing
Speaker 1: genre films. He'd apparently been a dancer and then dance
Speaker 1: instructor and choreographer, working like adjacent to film, and then
Speaker 1: maybe in film a little bit before they started casting
Speaker 1: him in parts and based on the pictures he's showing
Speaker 1: up in and some of the names of the characters.
Speaker 1: I can easily imagine that this guy became a go
Speaker 1: to elder actor for various supporting elder characters. You know,
Speaker 1: you need a Van Helsing type role. You need a
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, a wise old mage like
Speaker 1: you say, this is the guy you cast.
Speaker 3: That's right. He's got a very wispy beard and he
Speaker 3: he you know, tells the tale of the curse from
Speaker 3: ancient from the ancient past. Though he's not just somebody
Speaker 3: with intellectual book learning about the magic, he has a
Speaker 3: personal connection to it because he's sort of the guardian
Speaker 3: of our heroine. He's there to deliver the lore to
Speaker 3: her and to pass along the magical artifact that she's
Speaker 3: going to need in order to defeat the Lady Terminator
Speaker 3: and undo the south Sea Queen's magic. That's right.
Speaker 1: This actor's other credits include nineteen eighty Satan Slave, nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one's The Warrior, as well as Queen of Black Magic.
Speaker 1: That one has Susannah in it. Eighty two is The
Speaker 1: Snake Queen, also starring Susannah. Eighty four is The Devil's
Speaker 1: Sword nineteen ninety and also nineteen ninety two's Lady Dragon
Speaker 1: that had Cynthia Rothrock in it, and the many other
Speaker 1: pictures as well.
Speaker 3: Also, this is a more serious character, but he gets
Speaker 3: a really ignominious end.
Speaker 1: Yes, he doesn't really get a very dignified death, does he.
Speaker 1: But it's an hilarious death.
Speaker 3: We'll have to talk more about that, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: The only other acting credit of note, the Queen of
Speaker 1: the South Sea as we encounter her at the very
Speaker 1: beginning of the picture, is played by an actress credited
Speaker 1: by the name Fortanella, popular Indonesian actress of apparently mixed
Speaker 1: Indonesian and Italian descent who acted in a string of films,
Speaker 1: mostly in the nineteen nineties and mostly comedies. Finally, the music, Oh,
Speaker 1: I love the music of Lady Terminator. I do not
Speaker 1: know exactly what its origins are. It's credited to one
Speaker 1: Ricky Brothers, and they have no other credits, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, this is somebody's pseudonym. If this
Speaker 1: is like a pair of composed.
Speaker 3: Is it Ricky Brothers or the Ricky Brothers.
Speaker 1: I took it to be someone named Ricky Brothers, like
Speaker 1: that's their stage name or something. But there are no
Speaker 1: other credits, and as far as I can tell, like
Speaker 1: this is all original music, you know it's there are
Speaker 1: obviously some terminator notes in there. There are a few
Speaker 1: times where I got kind of like a slight biosphere
Speaker 1: vibe off of it before it got terminatory again. But
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. It strikes the exact note you
Speaker 1: want for a picture like Lady Terminator.
Speaker 3: Okay, you ready to talk about the plot.
Speaker 1: Let's discuss the plot, all right.
Speaker 3: So I've been a bit under the weather this week,
Speaker 3: so Rob, I had to lean on you to make
Speaker 3: more plot notes. This time, I'm gonna have to rely
Speaker 3: on you to get us through the plot here. But
Speaker 3: I did make some notes about the very beginning here.
Speaker 1: I did watch this the first time when I had
Speaker 1: a fever, okay, to make sure we're kind of lining
Speaker 1: up with being under the weather whilst watching Lady Terminator.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okay. So we opened the film on a
Speaker 3: bleak picture of these waves rolling along in a very
Speaker 3: cold looking kind of gray green sea, and there's a
Speaker 3: sound of wind whipping all around, and then a voiceover
Speaker 3: comes in from out of nowhere and it says it's
Speaker 3: a very I should say, very sharp vocal delivery. It's
Speaker 3: a very almost kind of venomous tone in delivering this
Speaker 3: dialogue or not dialogue, and voiceover it says, sometimes the
Speaker 3: past should be left to memory to gather dust within
Speaker 3: the cupboards of recorded time. That's it, that's what it says.
Speaker 3: Now we cut to waves crashing against a rocky shore,
Speaker 3: and there's a castle perched up on a seaside cliff,
Speaker 3: and there's very dreamy eighties music. There's kind of some
Speaker 3: glass bell synthesizer and reverby drums. You know that eighties
Speaker 3: sound is like, you know, drums in an empty steel haul. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: And this castle looks really cool. I get kind of
Speaker 1: a Indonesian Gothic vibe from this castle. Presumably this is
Speaker 1: the castle of the south Sea Queen or the woman
Speaker 1: who is going to become the south Sea Queen in
Speaker 1: this prologue.
Speaker 3: Right, So the strings come in on the soundtrack and
Speaker 3: we get the classic the DS motif, and we see
Speaker 3: a lady here. She's in a bedroom, kind of misty bedroom.
Speaker 3: There's like a fog billowing around, and we see you know,
Speaker 3: bed sheets kind of hanging down or I don't know
Speaker 3: what you call those bed curtains hanging down all around.
Speaker 3: I watched part of this with Rachel, and she pointed out,
Speaker 3: when you see the bed at this part, it looks
Speaker 3: almost like it's like a table, looks like not cushiony,
Speaker 3: like very flat and hard with just like a sheet
Speaker 3: over it, but some kind of flat surface. And this
Speaker 3: lady is on a bed having sex with a man.
Speaker 3: She's wearing a sheer green dress or wrap of some kind,
Speaker 3: with a bunch of gold jewelry around her neck and
Speaker 3: in her hair with heavy blue eyeshadow. And I guess
Speaker 3: this is our south Sea Queen, that's right.
Speaker 1: And we quickly see that her green dress is for
Speaker 1: some sort of sarong that wraps around her body and
Speaker 1: then trails on the floor, almost like the tail of
Speaker 1: a great snake or perhaps a mermaid. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: in this prologue here we get a version of the
Speaker 1: South Sea Queen myth. At first, it seems like this
Speaker 1: prologue is set in historic mythic times, but we're later
Speaker 1: to learn that this is probably like eighteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: because there's one hundred years prior to the picture. I
Speaker 1: guess it would have to be yeah, yeah, eighteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine something like that. Okay, So the south
Speaker 1: Sea Queen, as depicted here, seems to have an insatiable
Speaker 1: appetite for sex and death, inviting eager men into her
Speaker 1: castle where she loves them up and then she kills
Speaker 1: them via some form of implied vagina dentata attack. So
Speaker 1: she's on top of them, there are some everyone pulls
Speaker 1: some weird faces, and then there's a splurt of blood
Speaker 1: across everyone's bodies and they're done. The lover is dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We get the scene many times in the movie
Speaker 3: of a guy who's like really excited. He's like, oh boy,
Speaker 3: and then we just get the like the splurret of
Speaker 3: blood coming up his torso into his face.
Speaker 1: Yes, punished for his lust. And so in this sequence,
Speaker 1: she dispenses with yet another victim and then wonders aloud
Speaker 1: as she eats some grapes if anyone, if any lover
Speaker 1: out there can possibly satisfire. And that's when a handsome,
Speaker 1: heroic man boldly strolls in and seems to take her
Speaker 1: up on the challenge, and in the midst of their
Speaker 1: love making, he grabs a serpent from her, like from
Speaker 1: around her thighs. Which in turn transforms into a Chris
Speaker 1: that's a Javanese traditional asymmetrical dagger.
Speaker 3: Okay, I was curious about that word. I was hearing
Speaker 3: it throughout the movie. But yeah, it's sort of like
Speaker 3: a wavy looking kind of dagger.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the eel snake thing turns into the knife.
Speaker 1: That's right. Right, So he's and you know, you quickly
Speaker 1: get the idea that he has. He has, you know,
Speaker 1: stopped her from killing him with her magic, but he's
Speaker 1: also kind of captured some of her magic whatever the
Speaker 1: details of it. She's outraged, and he's like, calm down,
Speaker 1: we're married now and the killings need to stop.
Speaker 3: But she doesn't like this. She doesn't like having her
Speaker 3: deadly eel power stolen. So she curses him.
Speaker 1: Right, she says, one hundred years from now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: cut back and kill your great granddaughter, and then she
Speaker 1: wanders out into the sea to join the evil forces
Speaker 1: of the deep. And then we'll later learn that that
Speaker 1: castle apparently follows her into the depths, sinking beneath the waves.
Speaker 3: By the way, when she swears revenge, Rob, you were
Speaker 3: not really like shortening or summarizing at all. That's exactly.
Speaker 3: She just says, in one hundred years, I'll have my
Speaker 3: revenge on your great granddaughter.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, no additional additional details, And we don't even
Speaker 1: know how he really responds to it. I guess he's
Speaker 1: kind of shocked, but he's like, well, okay, fair, but no.
Speaker 1: I guess he's probably distressed because he thought they had
Speaker 1: a shot at actually making this marriage work and it
Speaker 1: very quickly fell apart. So we get our title, we
Speaker 1: get our opening credits, and then we fast forward to
Speaker 1: present day and we meet our protagonists for now, the
Speaker 1: young American anthropologist Tanya, whose research concerns the South Sea Queen.
Speaker 3: So she is in Indonesia, from what I understand, trying
Speaker 3: to complete her PhD. But it's funny because she talks
Speaker 3: about it more like a I don't know, like a
Speaker 3: high school student having to complete an assignment. She's like,
Speaker 3: I've got to finish writing this thesis or I won't graduate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't go to PROM. I can't go to
Speaker 1: the PhD prom if I don't get this done.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So she's there studying the south Sea Queen,
Speaker 3: but also doesn't seem to be all that knowledgeable about it,
Speaker 3: like she's kind of getting there and finding out things
Speaker 3: about Yeah, like, so, what's the deal with the south
Speaker 3: Sea Queen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this again, this is constable. This is the less
Speaker 1: convincing half of her performance before she becomes Lady Terminator.
Speaker 1: Right now, she's just Lady anthropologist, and so she's on
Speaker 1: the hunt for details about the south Sea Queen. We
Speaker 1: get a creepy research sequence in what I can only
Speaker 1: assume is a very hot attic library. That's the main
Speaker 1: vibe I got off of it. But she's asking around
Speaker 1: about forbidden books and quickly acquiring forbidden bur books and
Speaker 1: learning about the south Sea Queen.
Speaker 3: She also meets our wizard character.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, and he's like you you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't dove into such things, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: but I want to, and he's like, okay, yeah. And
Speaker 1: so now that we have the library secuts done, we
Speaker 1: move on to actual fieldwork, a solo scuba expedition to
Speaker 1: the castle of the South Sea Queen on the bottom
Speaker 1: of the ocean on a chartered boat that features a
Speaker 1: grumpy captain as well as some guy named Popeye.
Speaker 3: Kind of an Indonesian quint character is the captain here.
Speaker 3: There's some Robert Shaw energy coming off of him, like
Speaker 3: he's drinking a beer out of a can, and he's
Speaker 3: arguing with her. He's kind of gruff, you know. He's like,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't go there to the I think first he
Speaker 3: dismisses her interest in the South Sea Queen is like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's a bunch of nonsense. And then he starts getting real.
Speaker 3: He's like, look, you don't want to do this, you
Speaker 3: don't want to mess around. But somehow I forget how
Speaker 3: she convinces him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she she chooses logic first. She's like,
Speaker 1: we're living in the modern age. She cites people are
Speaker 1: building bay stations on the moon, you know, and he's like,
Speaker 1: that's right, they are totally doing that, and therefore my
Speaker 1: superstitious beliefs feel a little embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're safe from the South Sea Queen.
Speaker 1: And then she kind of charms him a little bit
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, we'll take you there again a
Speaker 1: solo scuba trip. So she goes in. We get a
Speaker 1: little stock footage of some very murky looking corals. She
Speaker 1: comes back up at first because something in her unit's
Speaker 1: not working right, then she goes down again, and then
Speaker 1: we get this great sequence where the water becomes disturbed
Speaker 1: and the captain like looks, he looks down, then he
Speaker 1: looks up, and then he's like, oh.
Speaker 3: God, what have I done?
Speaker 1: And then he's destroyed by a wave.
Speaker 3: Yes, I regret nothing, but Tanya is still down there.
Speaker 3: So she's descending to the sunken castle of the South
Speaker 3: Sea Queen.
Speaker 1: And something goes south down there, because the next thing
Speaker 1: we see she is in her black bikini strapped to
Speaker 1: the South Sea Queen's massive like hard platform bed that
Speaker 1: we saw in the prologue, and a supernatural snake or
Speaker 1: eel or something crawls up to her nether's and obviously
Speaker 1: possesses her either with the spirit of the South Sea
Speaker 1: Queen or as we have been discussing, at least the
Speaker 1: strong influence of the Southsea Queen.
Speaker 3: Right, And so from now on, she's just in terminator mode.
Speaker 3: And it's not one of those movies where somebody is
Speaker 3: snapping back to reality and becoming themselves again and they're like,
Speaker 3: what is taking over me? I don't understand this. It's
Speaker 3: not a werewolf type struggle. She's just a terminator From
Speaker 3: now on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tanya, the lady anthropologist that you may be so
Speaker 1: invested in at this point in the picture is gone.
Speaker 1: You'll never see her again. Now she is a vessel
Speaker 1: of pure vengeance. So from here we cut to her emergence.
Speaker 1: She emerges a half naked on a midnight shore, Terminator style,
Speaker 1: bolts of animated blue lightning coming off of her body.
Speaker 3: She comes up on the shore, and much like in Terminator,
Speaker 3: she first comes across a group of a hard drinking
Speaker 3: punks out you know, for a night out on the town.
Speaker 3: They're drinking out of brown bags, I guess. And except
Speaker 3: these guys I think are having significantly more fun even
Speaker 3: than the group of punks including Bill Paxton at the
Speaker 3: beginning of Terminator, you know what I mean, Like, they
Speaker 3: will not stop laughing, and one guy is just he
Speaker 3: is so just goofully laughing it up that he can't
Speaker 3: stop urinating in a like a stream that's just blasting
Speaker 3: off of him while while he's talking to his buddy.
Speaker 3: It's it's hard to describe the energy of this scene.
Speaker 1: Yes, he basically screams, Oh God, I need a woman
Speaker 1: as he falls to his knees. Beer in one hand,
Speaker 1: cigarette in the other peeing into the air. These are
Speaker 1: the dirt bags that are about to get murdered by
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator. And that's that's basically how it goes down.
Speaker 1: She wanders up terminator style, still half naked, but now
Speaker 1: with a green necklace, like a jade necklace that's going
Speaker 1: to be important here in a bit. She approaches these
Speaker 1: these guys and they immediately offer for her pot and
Speaker 1: good times in their car, and basically she makes very
Speaker 1: short work of them death by snooz snow, and she
Speaker 1: takes their clothes, their boots, but she leaves their motor
Speaker 1: car behind exactly.
Speaker 3: And it's the kind of death we saw earlier where
Speaker 3: the guys like mid coitus and then suddenly like spray
Speaker 3: of blood up the stomach into the face.
Speaker 1: He's like, ooh, now for there. It's off to one
Speaker 1: of the many hotels that serve as locations for this film.
Speaker 1: A lot of this film seems to have been filmed
Speaker 1: in very nice looking hotels, and also airport runways and
Speaker 1: also some malls, some nice shopping malls. So seemingly our
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator has checked into the penthouse at this nice hotel,
Speaker 1: and we get this. It's kind of I guess a
Speaker 1: meditation scene or communing with the spirit of the south
Speaker 1: Sea Queen. It's pretty cool. They're gels. There's like I
Speaker 1: guess the MTV is playing on the TV. There's an
Speaker 1: enormous penthouse bar and she's like meditating topless before a
Speaker 1: portrait of the South of See queen that's on the wall.
Speaker 3: Why do they have that?
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know if it was this
Speaker 1: there or it magically appeared. We get more of this
Speaker 1: time travel Terminator Highlander, the quickening lightning, and this ends
Speaker 1: up exploding liquor bottles, destroying lamps, lights up her eyes
Speaker 1: and nipples, and then the security guard shows up with
Speaker 1: an oozy and just gets immediately taken out. She just
Speaker 1: like yanks him by the collar and you know he's done.
Speaker 3: For So something I noticed is the lady Terminator is
Speaker 3: on a mission. She has a main target that she's
Speaker 3: going after, and we will find out it is the
Speaker 3: singer Erica, who I think we see on the TV.
Speaker 1: In this is that Erica? That would make sense, I think.
Speaker 3: So she's singing on the TV.
Speaker 1: So this is not merely meditation, this is research. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's seeking out Erica and then powering up so that
Speaker 1: she can go out and get her hook.
Speaker 3: Ah. That's the great granddaughter I'm supposed to get revenge on.
Speaker 3: So there there is that target. But I would say functionally,
Speaker 3: what she really hates in this movie is glass and crotches. Yes,
Speaker 3: those are the main things she attacks.
Speaker 1: Yes, she is going to shatter some glass and she's
Speaker 1: going to shatter some crotches. So much crotch violence in
Speaker 1: this picture. We have some great examples to share.
Speaker 3: You could just tell the director was never getting tired
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So from here we cut to this
Speaker 1: location just screams expat bar. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know where. I couldn't find it. I looked for more
Speaker 1: information about filming locations, even where in Indonesia everything was shot,
Speaker 1: and I didn't.
Speaker 3: Get a lot.
Speaker 1: So this is, I think, supposed to be New York City,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, some sort of a restaurant bar
Speaker 1: environment that has a bunch of Union jacks up.
Speaker 3: And then this is supposed to be New York City.
Speaker 1: I hate There was some detail in this dialogue that
Speaker 1: made me think it, what like, this is not supposed
Speaker 1: to be Indonesia, right, this is supposed to be Max.
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be Max's home country.
Speaker 3: Well, I had a lot of questions about where this
Speaker 3: was supposed to take place. Nothing really made sense, but
Speaker 3: I thought it was definitely not supposed to be anywhere
Speaker 3: in the United States, because at one point he calls
Speaker 3: his friends in the United States. He says, I'm calling
Speaker 3: putting in a call to my friends in the States,
Speaker 3: and he calls them and they answer and they come over.
Speaker 1: Is this in the bar scene or is this in
Speaker 1: a later scene?
Speaker 3: Maybe in a later scene.
Speaker 1: Okay, my read on this, this is a flashback. We
Speaker 1: don't know it's a flashback yet, but we'll find out
Speaker 1: that it's a flashback. I think this is Max in
Speaker 1: his former life, maybe in New York, maybe in Australia,
Speaker 1: who knows. But then we get some hint of a
Speaker 1: tragedy that forces him to then join the Indonesian police force.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I'm confused about what Yes, you were
Speaker 3: right to probably write about this.
Speaker 1: Confused by this, But in this sequence, in this bar,
Speaker 1: we meet Max along with I think Snake and Tom
Speaker 1: are there, so that the Snake's presence does lead us
Speaker 1: to wonder if this is maybe actually Indonesia. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but basically what happens is there's a pretty lady in
Speaker 1: the bar. A couple of abusive eighties movie punks show
Speaker 1: up and they start harassing her, and so Snake and
Speaker 1: Tom and Max they bump, they bust him up, they
Speaker 1: drive them away, and then we almost immediately cut away
Speaker 1: from Max talking to this lady, to him pining tragically
Speaker 1: over a photograph of himself and said, lady, and apparently
Speaker 1: now he is a homicide detective in perhaps Jakarta.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all making sense now. I was having fragmented
Speaker 3: memories I was starting to piece together. Yes, you're right.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, we see the flashback of him meeting
Speaker 3: his wife, and then immediately we cut to something terrible
Speaker 3: has happened. She's gone now and he's he's in Indonesia
Speaker 3: as a police officer for some reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but this is what we
Speaker 1: have to work with. Yes, and they're almost immediately called
Speaker 1: out on a job. We get this, We get this
Speaker 1: hilarious hot dog conversation where we get the line, we've
Speaker 1: seen more dead bodies than you've eaten hot dogs. So
Speaker 1: shut up and eat.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that all the time.
Speaker 1: So they're called out clearly to investigate some of these
Speaker 1: south Sea Queen killings. They don't know it's the south
Speaker 1: Sea Queen yet, but there are some murders happening, and
Speaker 1: Max and his team are on the case.
Speaker 3: Is this the part where they go to the morgue
Speaker 3: to see the bodies and they're like, huh, the genitals
Speaker 3: were removed from all these men, and one of them
Speaker 3: is like, could be a small animal.
Speaker 1: That comes later, but this is that's like phase two
Speaker 1: of their work. Yeah, okay, but before we get that,
Speaker 1: we end up having to touch base with Erica, who
Speaker 1: we've I guess seen on the screen. We've talked about
Speaker 1: her already, but this is who will learn to be
Speaker 1: the curse great granddaughter of the Casanova from the opening prologue,
Speaker 1: the woman that the terminator, the lady terminator here is
Speaker 1: out to murder.
Speaker 3: So she's a popular music sensation and I think when
Speaker 3: we first meet her, she's being interviewed by like somebody
Speaker 3: comes up with a news camera microphone.
Speaker 1: For yeah, and what is clearly a very nice hotel lobby,
Speaker 1: but they're like, hey, this is Joe Peterson for Channel
Speaker 1: six tell us about how famous you are and can't
Speaker 1: you can you not wait to be famous? Like it's weird.
Speaker 1: They're interviewing her like she's a celebrity, but also asking
Speaker 1: her it's like, what do you think it's going to
Speaker 1: be like when you're famous? And she's like, I can't imagine. Well,
Speaker 1: she's she's still very much an everyday you know, girl
Speaker 1: who wants to go to the mall, and she does
Speaker 1: that in the next scene with her friend Lydia. They're
Speaker 1: trying on jewelry and there they particularly they go to
Speaker 1: a jewelry store and Erica is already wearing an authentic
Speaker 1: jade necklace that is identical to the one that Lady
Speaker 1: Terminator was wearing earlier, and just to confuse things even more,
Speaker 1: Lydia says, I'm going to buy an exact replica of
Speaker 1: your authentic jade necklace that you got from your ancestor.
Speaker 1: And everyone's like, this sounds like a good plan. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: of course, Lady Terminator has already shown up at the
Speaker 1: mall and is stalking them.
Speaker 3: You don't actually get these sound effects, but as she's
Speaker 3: walking through the mall, you can just hear in your
Speaker 3: head like the.
Speaker 1: And Lady t is decked out in what will be
Speaker 1: her signature look for most of the picture, at least
Speaker 1: when she's not naked, she's wearing a green sports spra.
Speaker 1: She's got black leather jacket on, and then these like
Speaker 1: tight stitched, like open at the sides leather rocker pants
Speaker 1: like eighties heavy not heavy metal, but eighties metal pants. Yes,
Speaker 1: but she doesn't have the green necklace anymore now her
Speaker 1: necklace is black. For whatever reason, didn't notice that change.
Speaker 1: I should also point out that Lady Terminator has great hair.
Speaker 1: She has this like great zool esque head of Sigourney
Speaker 1: Weaver hair going on in most of the picture. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no denying constables a stone cold knockout in this end,
Speaker 1: evidently by virtue of the weapons training she's received ultimately
Speaker 1: pretty convincing firing all these guns, which she's about.
Speaker 3: To do right, because Erica and her friend they part ways, right,
Speaker 3: Eric has to go do something else and her friend
Speaker 3: goes into the bathroom, and for some reason, Lady Terminator
Speaker 3: goes after her first.
Speaker 1: Right, goes into the bathroom, shoots her with an oozy
Speaker 1: kills an innocent bystander and then she pulls the necklace
Speaker 1: off of her and quickly discerns that it's a fake.
Speaker 1: So the hunt continues, more stalking in the mall, more
Speaker 1: senseless murder of humans, and television.
Speaker 3: Sets had to break some glass, that's right.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, cut to the seaside and we see grand Uncle
Speaker 1: Masabu and he is meditating and clearly has a premonition
Speaker 1: that Erica is in trouble, and he draws the sacred
Speaker 1: Chris Knife knife and he realizes he needs to jump
Speaker 1: in there and help. Then we get the autopsy scene
Speaker 1: that we already describe.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it was not a small animal as they
Speaker 3: first suspect, But then they make some crude jokes and
Speaker 3: then also there is a there's some comic relief in
Speaker 3: the scene because the autop like the morgue attendant is
Speaker 3: just eating spicy noodles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just there eating noodles. They're like, you're disgusting,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I gotta eat. And from there we
Speaker 1: cut to the disco sequence that we referenced earlier. They
Speaker 1: later clarified that this is the Manhattan Club.
Speaker 3: The Manhattan Club is the tech noir of Lady Terminy.
Speaker 1: That's right, and this before anything even really happens in
Speaker 1: this scene, it's splendid. It's just great disco vibes. I
Speaker 1: like the way it's shot. I love the colors we
Speaker 1: hear most of, if not the entire song that Eric
Speaker 1: is performing. I wasn't able to hunt down what this
Speaker 1: song is or who who recorded it, where it came from,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 3: Think like original it seems is the chorus says something
Speaker 3: like we fight, fight for life, we serve those in power.
Speaker 3: That was a little confused, But what is that really
Speaker 3: what it means as all we assist those in power?
Speaker 3: I think it says, well, it's everyone's having a great
Speaker 3: time here. It turns out that Max is here with
Speaker 3: one of his co workers, one of the other detectives
Speaker 3: named Jack. I believe, but we learned Max is living
Speaker 3: in the past. He's unable to move on. He can't
Speaker 3: fall in love again after whatever horrible things happened to
Speaker 3: his previous girlfriend. You know so many cop characters in movies,
Speaker 3: they're always they're taking it too personal, right the case
Speaker 3: the case is weighing on them. Max is not taking
Speaker 3: the job too personal. He's taken his own personal life
Speaker 3: too personal. Which is a refreshing change.
Speaker 1: Better work life balanced hard to.
Speaker 3: Say, be yeah, or work grief balance. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, of course this party ViBe's not gonna last. Lady
Speaker 1: T shows up, we get another massive shootout of those
Speaker 1: bottles on the bar. Don't stand a chance. Nope, she
Speaker 1: takes those out for sure. So there's an exchange of gunfire.
Speaker 1: Everyone's running for it. This is the scene where Max
Speaker 1: apparently blurts out, come with me if you want to live.
Speaker 1: But after Jack saves the day by like getting some
Speaker 1: rather impactful shotgun blast than on Lady T. But then
Speaker 1: Lady murders Jack and he's out of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think does she like twist his head or something? Yeah,
Speaker 3: So this is a pretty good chase. But this also
Speaker 3: is one scene where they're going to great lengths to
Speaker 3: copy exact shots from Terminator, Like the sequence where the
Speaker 3: Terminator gets knocked down and then you see his fingers
Speaker 3: twitch and he starts to get back up. They do
Speaker 3: the exact same thing there, so they're clearly copying a
Speaker 3: lot of staging. I mentioned this earlier, but did you
Speaker 3: notice the bartender in the tech noir bar here? He's
Speaker 3: got long hair and sunglasses and a cowboy hat. He's
Speaker 3: just great.
Speaker 1: I know, I wish you could have seen more of him.
Speaker 1: So this obviously erupts into it, like we're saying, another
Speaker 1: big chase scene, more explosions, gunfire, a burning lady terminator
Speaker 1: on the hood of their vehicle, everybody steals at least
Speaker 1: one car. But eventually they make it. They make it
Speaker 1: away to the point that they can start doing some
Speaker 1: computer research and pull up like a little computer image
Speaker 1: of Tanya and get a little more detail on what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 3: I'm impressed that they're able to get an image of
Speaker 3: Tanya's face on what looks like just like a green
Speaker 3: text command prompt.
Speaker 1: So at this point they they've got some more research
Speaker 1: finished and they start getting the adventuring party together. Max
Speaker 1: is invited to a night out in the town with
Speaker 1: the boys, and the boys instead are like, we're coming
Speaker 1: to help you. I think this is Snake and one
Speaker 1: of the other guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is when he puts a call into what
Speaker 3: I took to be the States or are they coming internationally?
Speaker 1: To God, that's that doesn't make sense because that's that's
Speaker 1: a long and definitely not direct flight. I can say
Speaker 1: from experience.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, maybe I misunderstood that. But he does call
Speaker 3: his friends. They're like, we'll be there to help, and
Speaker 3: they will show up in a for a for a
Speaker 3: great final action scene.
Speaker 1: And then this is also when grand Uncle Masabu shows
Speaker 1: up to assist. He checks out Erica's ambulant and he's like, yep,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is how she's tracking you. But
Speaker 1: this is in but also, you know, drives some this
Speaker 1: is a sacred artifact, and so forth.
Speaker 3: He gives us a.
Speaker 1: Little more of the lore. Max isn't buying it though,
Speaker 1: he's like, this is nonsense, and then there's this light
Speaker 1: almost immediately. Erica says this to excuse him. She says,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been in our country very long.
Speaker 3: But this is also where we're going to get the
Speaker 3: magic dagger, right.
Speaker 1: That's right. Grandall Goomsabu passes on the Chris to Lydia,
Speaker 1: but he says, don't worry. I am here to protect you.
Speaker 1: And it's a good thing he's here to protect her,
Speaker 1: because the next scene is Lady Terminator driving in through
Speaker 1: the hotel slash police station's security and just killing everyone inside.
Speaker 3: So this is another copy of a sequence in Terminator
Speaker 3: where the Terminator comes to the police station where Sarah
Speaker 3: Connor is being held and attacks the whole police station
Speaker 3: looking for her. Lady Terminator does the same thing here,
Speaker 3: and it begins with, yeah, driving her car through the
Speaker 3: front desk.
Speaker 1: And this is the point where I noted from here
Speaker 1: on out it's almost continuous machine gun fire, like they're
Speaker 1: not going to let up. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it never really gets.
Speaker 3: Bored well, because it maintains a level of absurdity. Like
Speaker 3: we mentioned how much she hates glass, so she is
Speaker 3: gonna shatter every piece of glass she comes across, every bottle,
Speaker 3: every window, all that. But she also hates crotches, and
Speaker 3: so in this scene, for example, she like shoots one
Speaker 3: guy like five hundred times and then after that kicks
Speaker 3: him in the crotch.
Speaker 1: That's right, She shoots him off of the rafters, he
Speaker 1: falls down, she says, where is Erica, and then just
Speaker 1: shoots him in the torso like two dozen times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then one good kick in the ball is for
Speaker 1: good measure. And then she goes on to just stylishly
Speaker 1: gun down the rest of the security detail one by one.
Speaker 1: Some of them she you know, shoots in the back,
Speaker 1: others she she very strategically shoots in the groin, multiple
Speaker 1: quality groin kills in this.
Speaker 3: I was like, she's aiming for the groin when she can, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because that's the south Sea Queen's way, you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's part of her lustful vengeful mo o. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: is going to aim for the crotch whenever possible. I think,
Speaker 1: all in all, in this picture she kills like sixty
Speaker 1: two people. I didn't do the count myself, but I
Speaker 1: found one of these websites that includes kill counts for
Speaker 1: different characters and films like this, and I think it's
Speaker 1: something like sixty two people. It is a lot, all right.
Speaker 1: But you know who's going to put a stop to this?
Speaker 1: Grand Uncle Masabu, who shows up now dressed all in white,
Speaker 1: enters the fray and we get this amazing supernatural standoff
Speaker 1: between a grand uncle Masabu with the jade amulet and
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator with her machine gun.
Speaker 3: And you think maybe he's got the power to stop her.
Speaker 3: That would make sense.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's working at first, right, because she
Speaker 1: sees this guy, what is she gonna do? She's gonna
Speaker 1: shoot him, so she unloads on him with the machine gun,
Speaker 1: but the bullets are not touching him. He's totally matrixing
Speaker 1: this situation, and I guess the bullets are just passing
Speaker 1: through him. And she seems a little perplexed, a little worried, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now this is a threat I wasn't prepared for. And
Speaker 1: then it's grand Uncle Masabu's move. He uses some sort
Speaker 1: of some form of telekinesis to make the jade amulet
Speaker 1: fly directly into her eye socket, knocking her down, and
Speaker 1: she seems to be down for the count. We're like,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I think he did it. I think
Speaker 1: he pulled it off. She's not gonna set up Michael
Speaker 1: Meyer's style and start killing people again.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately she does. Not only that, but she right.
Speaker 3: I feel like the grand uncle, he's a character of dignity,
Speaker 3: and you would have expected him to have a more
Speaker 3: dignified death, but no, it's once again just obscene, absurd
Speaker 3: crotch violence.
Speaker 1: Is this great moment where once she sets up, he
Speaker 1: glances down at his own crotch and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my crotch is not protected now, or he doesn't say that,
Speaker 1: but that's implied. And then she indeed pulls the machine
Speaker 1: gun out and just shoots him directly in the crotch
Speaker 1: multiple times. He falls against the wall and is dead.
Speaker 3: I felt this one. I like the grand Uncle.
Speaker 1: So from this point on, we of course get more
Speaker 1: machine gun violence that Max and Tom collect Erica and
Speaker 1: they take off. Somehow they make it out with only
Speaker 1: Tom suffering a single movie gun shot to the shoulder
Speaker 1: you know in the movie. Since it's not going to
Speaker 1: slow him down much. They drive off into the night,
Speaker 1: finally stopping in the country when they experience engine problems.
Speaker 1: Though Tom's not there anymore. I don't know where he went.
Speaker 3: I think they leave him behind when he gets shot.
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Not maybe they did, because he's not there in the countryside.
Speaker 3: I thought they're surprised when they see him alive again later.
Speaker 1: Okay, that I think you're correct.
Speaker 3: But this is where we're going to get several scenes
Speaker 3: again recreating scenes from Terminator. So the scene in Terminator
Speaker 3: is when Reese and Sarah Connor takes shelter under a bridge.
Speaker 3: They patch up their wounds, and they get some backstory.
Speaker 3: They talk about some of the themes of the movie,
Speaker 3: including fate and you know, whether or not the future
Speaker 3: can be changed and that kind of thing. And also
Speaker 3: you see their love beginning to blossom. This covers some
Speaker 3: of the same territory. But this is also the scene
Speaker 3: where we get the like does it hurt the bullet wound?
Speaker 3: Na of course this ky, this guy is not from
Speaker 3: the future. He's just a homicide detective, so there's nothing
Speaker 3: to talk about there. But you do get some of
Speaker 3: his tragic backstory, telling the story of how his wife
Speaker 3: was killed, and that's you know, the source of his
Speaker 3: pain now. But I don't know, for some reason, you
Speaker 3: haven't really seen any good reason for them to be
Speaker 3: falling in love, but they do. So Max and Erica
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, we're lovers now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They have a tender love scene in which blood
Speaker 1: is not splurted anywhere and in which no snakes or
Speaker 1: knives factor into the love making at all.
Speaker 3: Also, in what I thought was a pretty funny choice,
Speaker 3: it also takes shots directly from the sex scene in Terminator.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of ripping off Terminator shot for shot, now
Speaker 1: we go to the topless regenerations for Lady t. It's
Speaker 1: the gels are in place again. This is back in
Speaker 1: the I guess the same hotel Penthouse from before. The
Speaker 1: music here, I thought specifically sounded a little bit like
Speaker 1: Biosphere with a little bit of with with certainly those
Speaker 1: Terminator vibes as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's that. And this is going to be the
Speaker 3: scene from Terminator where his eye is damaged, so he
Speaker 3: has to take his fleshy eye out and reveal the
Speaker 3: you know, the machine eye Underneath's.
Speaker 1: A great sequence in the original Terminator, one that really
Speaker 1: stuck with me as a young viewer, and of course
Speaker 1: one that makes total sense. The Terminator is a machine.
Speaker 1: His eye is damage, his real eye beneath the flesh
Speaker 1: he has to make repairs, and therefore he has to
Speaker 1: you know, cut into his body is fleshy parts, remove
Speaker 1: the fleshy parts, and repair the metal.
Speaker 3: Underneath, right, and so his eyes will be shielded by
Speaker 3: dark sunglasses for the rest of the movie for that reason.
Speaker 3: But the lady Terminator, she's got to take her eye out,
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm going to say. I was
Speaker 3: fairly impressed by the makeup effects here. Yeah, they have
Speaker 3: like a copy of her head that looked convincing enough.
Speaker 3: She's like cutting into the eye with the scalpel. I
Speaker 3: was like ooh, how are they doing that? For a
Speaker 3: second before I realized like, oh wait, that's not really her,
Speaker 3: that's like a mannequin head. But it looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the effects were good. It's ripping off terminator,
Speaker 1: but doing it somewhat effectively. I don't know that it
Speaker 1: made any sense, because again, she's not a machine. There's
Speaker 1: no reason for her to take her eyeball out, and
Speaker 1: yet she removes her eyeball, seems to wash it off,
Speaker 1: and then there's some highlander quickening sparks off of it,
Speaker 1: and then she just sticks it back in and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: all fixed up and ready for more sex and death.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 1: But before that happens, there's a we get some more
Speaker 1: strong zool vibes because a bus boy shows up with breakfast,
Speaker 1: and of course he gets sex murder.
Speaker 3: He does not take any convincing. He shows up with
Speaker 3: the breakfast and she's like hey, and she does the
Speaker 3: little like curl the finger like come here. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: just immediately like taking his tie off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's like an extra and a Benny Hill
Speaker 1: sketch and he is already at that like that frantic speed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she kills him. And then meanwhile, back at the mall,
Speaker 1: we're back at the mall again, the lovebirds Max and Sorry.
Speaker 3: This is this is the scene I mentioned earlier where
Speaker 3: it was really funny how they were running. They were
Speaker 3: on the run, and they're just suddenly at the mall
Speaker 3: and it seems like they're kind of taking it easy.
Speaker 3: They're just shopping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Max and Erica here are on the run from
Speaker 1: a supernatural uh avatar of vengeance, and they're like, what
Speaker 1: if we went shopping? Maybe went to the food mall,
Speaker 1: And so that's what they decided to do. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: they're thinking, you know where we'd be safe from Lady Terminator,
Speaker 1: a place with high population density. So of course Lady
Speaker 1: Terminator shows up again. More gunshots, more bystander deaths.
Speaker 3: Place is full of glass, Yeah.
Speaker 1: More glasses shattered, and our hero and heroin drive off again,
Speaker 1: this time I believe, intending to meet the rest of
Speaker 1: the team at the airport for a final showdown with
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator. That's right, this is another scene where everyone
Speaker 1: steals at least one car for the next phase of
Speaker 1: the action.
Speaker 3: Yes, but man, when they get to the to the
Speaker 3: airport runway for the final action scene. This is a
Speaker 3: good final showdown. Yeah, I give it two thumbs up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I definitely had some jaw dropping moments here and also
Speaker 1: some enormous laughs. One early on is you know everyone
Speaker 1: knows im Predator. We get that great Dutch Dylan handshake.
Speaker 1: I guess you'd call it a handshake. It's like the
Speaker 1: Muscle moment where.
Speaker 3: Arm wrestling in the air sort of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's of course an awesome, iconic moment, but
Speaker 1: this film has four heroes working together, so we get
Speaker 1: a quadruple Dutch Dylan Predator handshake and it's it's glorious.
Speaker 1: It's really good, and we have plenty of red shirts
Speaker 1: around that are obviously going to get blasted. So yeah,
Speaker 1: basically everyone ends up on the airport tarmac and multiple
Speaker 1: elements are in play here. We have Lady Terminator driving
Speaker 1: around in a car.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: A helicopter is in play shooting air to ground missiles
Speaker 1: at Lady Terminator.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Then we have Snake show up and he's what is
Speaker 1: he d like some sort of armored personnel carrier.
Speaker 3: They call it the Panzer. It looked to me just
Speaker 3: like a truck with like some stuff built around it.
Speaker 3: To make it look like a like a tank of
Speaker 3: some kind, but he's driving it and he's like ramming
Speaker 3: her with it and just cussing her out as he
Speaker 3: rams into her. That's yeah, so funny.
Speaker 1: Some hilarious profanity here. Yeah, the enthusiasm of the delivery
Speaker 1: is great though, Yes, so good. So yeah, he rams her,
Speaker 1: he like ty bones her vehicle, but she's clearly still
Speaker 1: a lot still alive, so Snake runs for it, and
Speaker 1: then the mustachio guy who I think is named Joe,
Speaker 1: fires a bazooka at her as well as the suddenly
Speaker 1: adjacent fuel tanker, and there's an enormous explosion, and I
Speaker 1: think it's Max who says, yeah that that should be
Speaker 1: enough to kill anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but hey, we've seen Terminator, right, The Terminator
Speaker 3: gets blown up in an exploding tanker and they think
Speaker 3: they're safe, and they're not. Of course, it's going to
Speaker 3: rise up, having all of the flesh burned off of
Speaker 3: it and now being only the metal endos skeleton underneath.
Speaker 3: Not quite the case. Instead, she turns into a half
Speaker 3: melted sort of zombie being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kind of a zombie burnt up zombiefide form here. Uh,
Speaker 1: and she's even more unstoppable. Now, this is one of
Speaker 1: the cases where you often see sometimes the the hero
Speaker 1: does it, sometimes the villain does it. But late stage
Speaker 1: they find that that higher year that unlocks additional weaponry.
Speaker 1: This seems like could have been useful earlier in the picture,
Speaker 1: in this case laser eyes.
Speaker 3: And this is how our beloved Snake meets his end.
Speaker 3: I hated that they that the laser beamed snake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Snake eats it here, takes some laser beams to
Speaker 1: the chest. I think they shoot her like a million
Speaker 1: more times, and she keeps coming, and we do get
Speaker 1: a moment where Max is like he acknowledges Snake's death
Speaker 1: and he goes so long, buddy.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a couple of moments like that. There's another
Speaker 3: one where she the helicopter swoops down and catches her
Speaker 3: in a net.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, that was crazy. Catches her in
Speaker 1: a net, and then what does she do. She looks
Speaker 1: up and I blast the chopper and herself out of
Speaker 1: the sky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she blows up the chopper. And then we cut
Speaker 3: to one of the buddies there who one of the
Speaker 3: guys says, it just kind of like blankly says like,
Speaker 3: tom My, buddy, it's so hilarious, like while the helicopter
Speaker 3: is still exploding mid fireball.
Speaker 1: Shrapnel flying everywhere, but he takes a moment to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: tom My buddy.
Speaker 3: And then was that Tom in the helicopter?
Speaker 1: I was confused that I don't think we knew that
Speaker 1: that was not the other Tom. That will I think
Speaker 1: get back to here in just a second. That was
Speaker 1: a different Tom. She proceeds to so Lady Terminator at
Speaker 1: this point just proceeds to blow everyone and everything up
Speaker 1: with her ie beams and seemingly kills the other Tom
Speaker 1: or the Tom Prime we'll call him, in the process,
Speaker 1: the one played by the rockstar that we referenced earlier. Okay,
Speaker 1: Max runs out of AMMO. He tries to club Lady
Speaker 1: T with his machine gun, but she, you know, quickly
Speaker 1: like bashes him, beats him up, and now it's just
Speaker 1: Lady T chasing Erica up the stairs of what I
Speaker 1: assumed to be like an air traffic control tower, and
Speaker 1: things are feeling really dire here because there's no way
Speaker 1: there's going to be an industrial hydraulic press up there
Speaker 1: to defeat the Terminator.
Speaker 3: That's right, So what's she gonna do? But you do
Speaker 3: see tucked into the back of her clothes as she's
Speaker 3: running up the stairs. She still got the wrapped up
Speaker 3: gift from her grand.
Speaker 1: Uncle, Ah, the Sacred Chris. Yes, I didn't even notice
Speaker 1: it in her belt here, so I'd kind of forgotten
Speaker 1: about it. Because up at the top of the tower,
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator catches up, goes in for the kill. Max
Speaker 1: catches up, but he's not much use. She like throws
Speaker 1: him down a flight of stairs and and then she
Speaker 1: climbs on top of Erica and begins to like strangle
Speaker 1: her or something. But then that's when Erica pulls out
Speaker 1: the Chris.
Speaker 3: And is it sort of a Highlander type defeating the
Speaker 3: monster here? Is there some lightning involved?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is great because she stabs a Lady Terminator
Speaker 1: with the Chris. There's like a quickening explosion with the
Speaker 1: animated blue lightning, and then the Chris floats in the air,
Speaker 1: glows and shoots off like a space ship into the night.
Speaker 3: Beautiful magnifico.
Speaker 1: So it's been dark this whole time, but now it
Speaker 1: seems like the sun is coming up, a light is
Speaker 1: coming back into the world, and so now we see
Speaker 1: our surviving couple. They've been bandaged up. They're grieving for
Speaker 1: the dead as they take them by on stretchers. And
Speaker 1: then they bring by Tom on his stretcher and he's
Speaker 1: seemingly still alive, and we get this great little exchange
Speaker 1: with him where he says, I want to live forever.
Speaker 3: That's great. No, no, that's actually an interesting, nice a line. Yeah,
Speaker 3: discovers after having been eyeball blasted by Lady Terminator or
Speaker 3: whatever happened to him, I forget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's send you. He was definitely eyeball blasted, and
Speaker 1: he was shot with the ballistics earlier, so he's been
Speaker 1: through it at this point. But now his new goal
Speaker 1: is to just maybe not die and maybe ever. And
Speaker 1: I think it's understandable given what he suffered.
Speaker 3: Oh but hey, remember that voice that came in with
Speaker 3: narration at the beginning about the cupboards of recorded time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, comes back at the end. So as there's
Speaker 3: like a sunset or not sunset, it's the sunrise. I
Speaker 3: guess everything's everything's going okay now, and the voice comes
Speaker 3: in that says, the struggle within our souls is never ending.
Speaker 3: The life of man short and brutal torn between good
Speaker 3: and evil of the eternity around us. We know nothing.
Speaker 3: The stars look on They have been here long before
Speaker 3: man appeared on our small planet, and they will be
Speaker 3: here after we are no more. The end beautiful. What
Speaker 3: what does that have to do with it?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a message that we learn too
Speaker 1: late for sure. Now it really does feel like the
Speaker 1: opening narration and the closing narration were perhaps one narration bit,
Speaker 1: and they were like, should we put this at the
Speaker 1: beginning or should we put at the end, And they're like, no,
Speaker 1: let's split it up, split the difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he learned only too late that eel is a
Speaker 3: biting creature.
Speaker 1: I guess the message is beware the south Sea Queen. Really,
Speaker 1: it just seems like a warning. I don't I think
Speaker 1: that's the main error in anyone's ways here is don't
Speaker 1: tangle with the south Sea Queen.
Speaker 3: I think that is it. Yes, if you know there,
Speaker 3: if you know of an evil deep sea sex goddess somewhere,
Speaker 3: you should you should not go to her palace.
Speaker 1: That's right. Even if you yourself are very confident, think
Speaker 1: about your great grandchildren, think about the legacy of your
Speaker 1: poor decisions. Beautiful though she may be.
Speaker 3: Well, that was Lady Terminator again. I think one of
Speaker 3: the wildest and funniest movies we have watched for this show.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's like both of these films. Not for everyone,
Speaker 1: but if it's for you, boy, it's a treat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna need to be comfortable with a good
Speaker 3: bit of sex and violence, but it doesn't get much
Speaker 3: more absurd than this.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go ahead and close out this
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