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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 1: Today we have an episode that originally came out six

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Speaker 1: twenty seven five. It is our discussion of the infamously

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Speaker 1: wild nineteen eighty eight Indonesian full car Mockbuster Lady Terminator.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely love this film. This was a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun to discuss on the show. So hey, let's let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and pull the trigger on this one.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And this is Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 1: For today's episode, I wanted to take our first steps

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Speaker 1: on Weird House Cinema into the world of Indonesian cinema

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Speaker 1: as I just recently returned from Indonesia. I'll share more

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Speaker 1: about that trip on subsequent episodes of Stuff to Blow

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Speaker 1: Your Mind, because I did get to experience some things

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Speaker 1: to tie into our core science episodes. But now having

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the natural beauty and hospitality of the Indonesian isles,

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Speaker 1: I also knew it was time to watch some of

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Speaker 1: its weirdest movies.

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Speaker 3: You picked a real winner for us today, Rob and

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to spoil it before you finish your

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Speaker 3: introduction to the film, but it's hard to imagine the

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Speaker 3: cinema of any country could get much weirder than the

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Speaker 3: movie we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think there's a strong case to

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Speaker 1: be made for weirder examples of Indonesian cinema, but this one,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It lines up in several unique ways.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go ahead and mention it here for

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Speaker 1: anyone who hasn't looked at the title of the episode

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the nineteen eighty eight Indonesian folk

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Speaker 3: It's like if you wanted James Cameron's Terminator but you

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Speaker 3: thought it didn't have enough ancient deep sea sex goddesses

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Speaker 1: Exactly yes, And you might also think to yourself, terminators good,

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Speaker 1: but are there enough machine guns? Could there be more

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Speaker 1: machine guns? And you know, I dare say, without actually

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Speaker 1: going back and rewatching James Cameron's Terminator, I think this

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Speaker 3: I think that's without a doubt, and in fact, you

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Speaker 3: could you could since moments in this movie there's almost

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Speaker 3: put enough gunfire into the scene yet, and so like

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Speaker 3: something will happen, characters will be talking, and then more

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, there's a point about between halfway and

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Speaker 1: Like to their credit, I've said this on the show before.

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Speaker 3: I can get quite bored with a movie that's just

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Speaker 3: It stays weird and it stays funny, and yeah, it

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We tend to talk about exploitation films and b

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Speaker 3: Wow. I was not prepared for there to be a

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there are a lot of factors

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Speaker 1: major selection from this era is nineteen eighty eight's Lady Terminator. Now,

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Speaker 1: as we've been talking about here, Lady Terminator isn't just

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Speaker 3: Very much is that. I mean in like recreating scenes

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Speaker 1: Right so it is definitely a terminator mockbuster. But on

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Speaker 1: on to some degree on Indonesian folklore, specifically tales concerning

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Speaker 1: the South Sea Queen. And I believe my apologies if

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Speaker 1: So this does feel like it's perhaps a familiar trope

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Speaker 1: is the Lady Terminator. Yes, yeah, I think this is

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Speaker 3: There are reasons for thinking that. For one thing, she

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Speaker 3: like Interminator. But also there's no otherwise, there's no technological

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Speaker 1: point I beams come into the phraser eyes.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes the past should be left to memory, to gather

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Speaker 1: All right now, If you want to watch Lady Terminator,

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Speaker 3: buying more tickets to see The Lady Terminator. Again, We've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, But what.

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Speaker 1: The credited writer here is one car Kruleinos. This is

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Speaker 3: With me, if you want to live. Yeah, it happens past.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the cast here. Oh the star.

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Speaker 1: The title character, Lady Terminator or before she becomes Lady

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Speaker 3: This is a classic case of don't you hate when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go scuba diving by yourself. My wife was quick

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Speaker 3: So who's Barbara Ann Constable here?

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Speaker 3: this movie.

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00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: It's true she's a singer. She has presumably a good voice.

435
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: I don't know we actually hear that voice, but I believe,

436
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: through the magic of cinema that she has one.

437
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: I feel like this is another leveling up choice they made.

438
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: So they wanted to recreate the tech noir club sequence

439
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: from Terminator, but they but they were like, what if

440
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: instead the Sarah Connor character was not just waiting in

441
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: tech noir for the police to arrive and help her,

442
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: but she was actually singing on stage and giving a performance.

443
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's good, Okay, that is a level up.

444
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's a great sequence. I look forward to

445
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: talking about that one. It's like a like a disco

446
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: tech number, a full musical number ahead of the rampage.

447
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, a tech noir club with a guy who looks

448
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: like Geddy Lee and a cowboy hat and sunglasses tending bar.

449
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and Erica is played here by Claudia Angeliqe Ratamaker,

450
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: again her only film croll a role here, so I

451
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: don't know anything else about her, but she does a

452
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: perfectly fine job here. All right, Now, there is a there.

453
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: There is a group of gentlemen that help Max out.

454
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: Some of them are total red shirts, but at least

455
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: three of them, maybe more. There are guys with mustaches,

456
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: like there are white dudes with with mustaches that get

457
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: I get confused with in this picture, I'm not sure

458
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: if we're dealing with one mustachioed Caucasian guy or multiple

459
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: mustachioed Caucasian guys.

460
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one beef guy who's essentially a copy of Max,

461
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: but change it to brown hair and add the mustache,

462
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: so he's the muscle guy. And then you've got should

463
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: we can we talk about Snake for a minute. Snake's

464
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: my favorite character in the film.

465
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: Snake is terrific. So out of these so out of

466
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: these gentlemen, it's like Max has essentially three buddies, white

467
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: dude with a mustache and two Indonesian gentlemen. One one

468
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: is serious and one is the obvious ham at the

469
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: bunch and that's that's Snake. Strong stoner vibes for Snake.

470
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: Wait, am I thinking of the right guy? Snake is

471
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: the guy with the blonde mullet with yes.

472
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, okay, yes, that is Snake played by Adam Stardust.

473
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 3: Is that a real name?

474
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: No?

475
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: No?

476
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: And this may not be his you know, birth name either,

477
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: but he's also known as Adam Jugwani. And while this

478
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: is Adam Stardust slash, Adam Juguani's only film role on

479
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: the major film databasis. He is seemingly still around and

480
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: is a DJ with an easy to find social media

481
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: footprint in I believe in Indonesia. He is quote existing

482
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: at sixty living in the eighties. Some more power to him.

483
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: You can look him up on YouTube. He's got mixes

484
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: at parties. This dude is still still out there partying hard.

485
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: When he gets blasted by the laser beams from Lady

486
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 3: Terminator's eyes, I gasped, I made a noise. It was

487
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: It was a terrible loss.

488
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: You don't really expect the comic relief character to just

489
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: get eye blasted. Generally they get to survive.

490
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: Not Snake. They couldn't do that to Snake, all.

491
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 1: Right, the mustachioed guy. And I may be wrong. There

492
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: are different parts in the dub where I feel like

493
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: certain characters could refer to by a confusingly different.

494
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: Name Tom, and which one was Tom?

495
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Tom? Okay, so Tom the best friend. Tom is the

496
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: best friend. But there's a point where somebody blows up

497
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: in a helicopter and they also call that guy Tom.

498
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: That's what I thought I heard, too, Okay, but that

499
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 3: wasn't the same guy.

500
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: Right, Tom on the ground, Tom a best friend Tom

501
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: is played by e King Fozzy born nineteen fifty nine,

502
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: Indonesian rock star of the nineteen eighties. You can look

503
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: him up on discogs multiple releases as an actor active

504
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: through at least twenty twenty three. And I certainly don't

505
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: know much about Indonesian cinema outside of some of these

506
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: exploitation pictures, but it seems like his roles outside of

507
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties were actually supporting roles in more

508
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: serious films, more like mainstream fare.

509
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm glad he got to play around and

510
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: stuff like this though, because he's fun too. He is

511
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: this the guy who when they're like escaping the police station,

512
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: he gets shot and you think he's dead, and then

513
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: he comes back later and they're like, oh, you're alive,

514
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, I am, that's right.

515
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then spoilers, but he also gets shot again

516
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: and you think he's dead, like this time for real,

517
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: but then he seems to survive and then possibly die again.

518
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: We're not sure, all right, And then finally white guy

519
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: with the mustache, or at least the main one, the

520
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: one that factors into the final battle, is played by

521
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: Joseph p. McGlenn. I think this character's name is Joe,

522
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: but he might also be referred to his tank. I

523
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: could be wrong. As far as I could tell, he

524
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: was a helicopter pilot working in Indonesia at the time.

525
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: This is his only film credit. I may or may

526
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: not have found his LinkedIn profile.

527
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: You gonna hire him?

528
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: No, I think he's retired. But oh, okay, But if

529
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: I need somebody to go up against a killer female robot,

530
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna sign up for LinkedIn pro and

531
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: contact him. I guess.

532
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, what about our mage class here? Yes? Don't

533
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: we also in the party have a wise old wizard.

534
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, our van helson of the group who consults grand

535
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: uncle Masabu played by an actor credited as h I M.

536
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: Damsik who lived nineteen twenty nine through twenty twelve, very

537
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: slender Indonesian actor with credits seemingly strewn across numerous tantalizing

538
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: genre films. He'd apparently been a dancer and then dance

539
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: instructor and choreographer, working like adjacent to film, and then

540
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: maybe in film a little bit before they started casting

541
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: him in parts and based on the pictures he's showing

542
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: up in and some of the names of the characters.

543
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: I can easily imagine that this guy became a go

544
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: to elder actor for various supporting elder characters. You know,

545
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: you need a Van Helsing type role. You need a

546
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, a wise old mage like

547
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: you say, this is the guy you cast.

548
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: That's right. He's got a very wispy beard and he

549
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: he you know, tells the tale of the curse from

550
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: ancient from the ancient past. Though he's not just somebody

551
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: with intellectual book learning about the magic, he has a

552
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: personal connection to it because he's sort of the guardian

553
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: of our heroine. He's there to deliver the lore to

554
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: her and to pass along the magical artifact that she's

555
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: going to need in order to defeat the Lady Terminator

556
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: and undo the south Sea Queen's magic. That's right.

557
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: This actor's other credits include nineteen eighty Satan Slave, nineteen

558
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: eighty one's The Warrior, as well as Queen of Black Magic.

559
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: That one has Susannah in it. Eighty two is The

560
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: Snake Queen, also starring Susannah. Eighty four is The Devil's

561
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: Sword nineteen ninety and also nineteen ninety two's Lady Dragon

562
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: that had Cynthia Rothrock in it, and the many other

563
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: pictures as well.

564
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: Also, this is a more serious character, but he gets

565
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: a really ignominious end.

566
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Yes, he doesn't really get a very dignified death, does he.

567
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: But it's an hilarious death.

568
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: We'll have to talk more about that, Yeah, all right.

569
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: The only other acting credit of note, the Queen of

570
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: the South Sea as we encounter her at the very

571
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: beginning of the picture, is played by an actress credited

572
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: by the name Fortanella, popular Indonesian actress of apparently mixed

573
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Indonesian and Italian descent who acted in a string of films,

574
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: mostly in the nineteen nineties and mostly comedies. Finally, the music, Oh,

575
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: I love the music of Lady Terminator. I do not

576
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: know exactly what its origins are. It's credited to one

577
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: Ricky Brothers, and they have no other credits, so I

578
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, this is somebody's pseudonym. If this

579
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: is like a pair of composed.

580
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: Is it Ricky Brothers or the Ricky Brothers.

581
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I took it to be someone named Ricky Brothers, like

582
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: that's their stage name or something. But there are no

583
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: other credits, and as far as I can tell, like

584
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: this is all original music, you know it's there are

585
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: obviously some terminator notes in there. There are a few

586
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: times where I got kind of like a slight biosphere

587
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: vibe off of it before it got terminatory again. But

588
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. It strikes the exact note you

589
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: want for a picture like Lady Terminator.

590
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: Okay, you ready to talk about the plot.

591
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Let's discuss the plot, all right.

592
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: So I've been a bit under the weather this week,

593
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: so Rob, I had to lean on you to make

594
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: more plot notes. This time, I'm gonna have to rely

595
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: on you to get us through the plot here. But

596
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: I did make some notes about the very beginning here.

597
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: I did watch this the first time when I had

598
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: a fever, okay, to make sure we're kind of lining

599
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: up with being under the weather whilst watching Lady Terminator.

600
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okay. So we opened the film on a

601
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: bleak picture of these waves rolling along in a very

602
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: cold looking kind of gray green sea, and there's a

603
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: sound of wind whipping all around, and then a voiceover

604
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: comes in from out of nowhere and it says it's

605
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: a very I should say, very sharp vocal delivery. It's

606
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: a very almost kind of venomous tone in delivering this

607
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: dialogue or not dialogue, and voiceover it says, sometimes the

608
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: past should be left to memory to gather dust within

609
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: the cupboards of recorded time. That's it, that's what it says.

610
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: Now we cut to waves crashing against a rocky shore,

611
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: and there's a castle perched up on a seaside cliff,

612
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 3: and there's very dreamy eighties music. There's kind of some

613
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: glass bell synthesizer and reverby drums. You know that eighties

614
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: sound is like, you know, drums in an empty steel haul. Yeah,

615
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: I love it.

616
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: And this castle looks really cool. I get kind of

617
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: a Indonesian Gothic vibe from this castle. Presumably this is

618
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: the castle of the south Sea Queen or the woman

619
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: who is going to become the south Sea Queen in

620
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: this prologue.

621
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: Right, So the strings come in on the soundtrack and

622
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: we get the classic the DS motif, and we see

623
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: a lady here. She's in a bedroom, kind of misty bedroom.

624
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: There's like a fog billowing around, and we see you know,

625
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: bed sheets kind of hanging down or I don't know

626
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: what you call those bed curtains hanging down all around.

627
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: I watched part of this with Rachel, and she pointed out,

628
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: when you see the bed at this part, it looks

629
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: almost like it's like a table, looks like not cushiony,

630
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: like very flat and hard with just like a sheet

631
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: over it, but some kind of flat surface. And this

632
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: lady is on a bed having sex with a man.

633
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: She's wearing a sheer green dress or wrap of some kind,

634
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: with a bunch of gold jewelry around her neck and

635
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: in her hair with heavy blue eyeshadow. And I guess

636
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: this is our south Sea Queen, that's right.

637
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: And we quickly see that her green dress is for

638
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: some sort of sarong that wraps around her body and

639
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: then trails on the floor, almost like the tail of

640
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: a great snake or perhaps a mermaid. Yeah, and so

641
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: in this prologue here we get a version of the

642
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: South Sea Queen myth. At first, it seems like this

643
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: prologue is set in historic mythic times, but we're later

644
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: to learn that this is probably like eighteen eighty nine,

645
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: because there's one hundred years prior to the picture. I

646
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: guess it would have to be yeah, yeah, eighteen eighty eight,

647
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine something like that. Okay, So the south

648
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: Sea Queen, as depicted here, seems to have an insatiable

649
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: appetite for sex and death, inviting eager men into her

650
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: castle where she loves them up and then she kills

651
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: them via some form of implied vagina dentata attack. So

652
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: she's on top of them, there are some everyone pulls

653
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: some weird faces, and then there's a splurt of blood

654
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: across everyone's bodies and they're done. The lover is dead.

655
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. We get the scene many times in the movie

656
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 3: of a guy who's like really excited. He's like, oh boy,

657
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: and then we just get the like the splurret of

658
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: blood coming up his torso into his face.

659
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: Yes, punished for his lust. And so in this sequence,

660
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: she dispenses with yet another victim and then wonders aloud

661
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: as she eats some grapes if anyone, if any lover

662
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: out there can possibly satisfire. And that's when a handsome,

663
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: heroic man boldly strolls in and seems to take her

664
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: up on the challenge, and in the midst of their

665
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: love making, he grabs a serpent from her, like from

666
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: around her thighs. Which in turn transforms into a Chris

667
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: that's a Javanese traditional asymmetrical dagger.

668
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I was curious about that word. I was hearing

669
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: it throughout the movie. But yeah, it's sort of like

670
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: a wavy looking kind of dagger.

671
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

672
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the eel snake thing turns into the knife.

673
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: That's right. Right, So he's and you know, you quickly

674
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: get the idea that he has. He has, you know,

675
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: stopped her from killing him with her magic, but he's

676
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: also kind of captured some of her magic whatever the

677
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: details of it. She's outraged, and he's like, calm down,

678
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: we're married now and the killings need to stop.

679
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: But she doesn't like this. She doesn't like having her

680
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: deadly eel power stolen. So she curses him.

681
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: Right, she says, one hundred years from now, I'm gonna

682
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: cut back and kill your great granddaughter, and then she

683
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: wanders out into the sea to join the evil forces

684
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: of the deep. And then we'll later learn that that

685
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: castle apparently follows her into the depths, sinking beneath the waves.

686
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: By the way, when she swears revenge, Rob, you were

687
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: not really like shortening or summarizing at all. That's exactly.

688
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: She just says, in one hundred years, I'll have my

689
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: revenge on your great granddaughter.

690
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, no additional additional details, And we don't even

691
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: know how he really responds to it. I guess he's

692
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: kind of shocked, but he's like, well, okay, fair, but no.

693
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: I guess he's probably distressed because he thought they had

694
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: a shot at actually making this marriage work and it

695
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: very quickly fell apart. So we get our title, we

696
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: get our opening credits, and then we fast forward to

697
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: present day and we meet our protagonists for now, the

698
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: young American anthropologist Tanya, whose research concerns the South Sea Queen.

699
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: So she is in Indonesia, from what I understand, trying

700
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: to complete her PhD. But it's funny because she talks

701
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: about it more like a I don't know, like a

702
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: high school student having to complete an assignment. She's like,

703
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: I've got to finish writing this thesis or I won't graduate.

704
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't go to PROM. I can't go to

705
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: the PhD prom if I don't get this done.

706
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, So she's there studying the south Sea Queen,

707
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: but also doesn't seem to be all that knowledgeable about it,

708
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: like she's kind of getting there and finding out things

709
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: about Yeah, like, so, what's the deal with the south

710
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: Sea Queen? Yeah?

711
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, this again, this is constable. This is the less

712
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: convincing half of her performance before she becomes Lady Terminator.

713
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: Right now, she's just Lady anthropologist, and so she's on

714
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: the hunt for details about the south Sea Queen. We

715
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: get a creepy research sequence in what I can only

716
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: assume is a very hot attic library. That's the main

717
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: vibe I got off of it. But she's asking around

718
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: about forbidden books and quickly acquiring forbidden bur books and

719
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: learning about the south Sea Queen.

720
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: She also meets our wizard character.

721
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, and he's like you you shouldn't.

722
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: You shouldn't dove into such things, and she's like, oh,

723
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: but I want to, and he's like, okay, yeah. And

724
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: so now that we have the library secuts done, we

725
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: move on to actual fieldwork, a solo scuba expedition to

726
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: the castle of the South Sea Queen on the bottom

727
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: of the ocean on a chartered boat that features a

728
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: grumpy captain as well as some guy named Popeye.

729
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: Kind of an Indonesian quint character is the captain here.

730
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: There's some Robert Shaw energy coming off of him, like

731
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: he's drinking a beer out of a can, and he's

732
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: arguing with her. He's kind of gruff, you know. He's like,

733
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: you shouldn't go there to the I think first he

734
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: dismisses her interest in the South Sea Queen is like, oh,

735
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 3: that's a bunch of nonsense. And then he starts getting real.

736
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: He's like, look, you don't want to do this, you

737
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: don't want to mess around. But somehow I forget how

738
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: she convinces him.

739
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she she chooses logic first. She's like,

740
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: we're living in the modern age. She cites people are

741
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: building bay stations on the moon, you know, and he's like,

742
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: that's right, they are totally doing that, and therefore my

743
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: superstitious beliefs feel a little embarrassing.

744
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're safe from the South Sea Queen.

745
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: And then she kind of charms him a little bit

746
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, we'll take you there again a

747
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: solo scuba trip. So she goes in. We get a

748
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: little stock footage of some very murky looking corals. She

749
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: comes back up at first because something in her unit's

750
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: not working right, then she goes down again, and then

751
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: we get this great sequence where the water becomes disturbed

752
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: and the captain like looks, he looks down, then he

753
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: looks up, and then he's like, oh.

754
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 3: God, what have I done?

755
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: And then he's destroyed by a wave.

756
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I regret nothing, but Tanya is still down there.

757
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: So she's descending to the sunken castle of the South

758
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: Sea Queen.

759
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: And something goes south down there, because the next thing

760
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: we see she is in her black bikini strapped to

761
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: the South Sea Queen's massive like hard platform bed that

762
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: we saw in the prologue, and a supernatural snake or

763
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: eel or something crawls up to her nether's and obviously

764
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: possesses her either with the spirit of the South Sea

765
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Queen or as we have been discussing, at least the

766
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: strong influence of the Southsea Queen.

767
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: Right, And so from now on, she's just in terminator mode.

768
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: And it's not one of those movies where somebody is

769
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: snapping back to reality and becoming themselves again and they're like,

770
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 3: what is taking over me? I don't understand this. It's

771
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: not a werewolf type struggle. She's just a terminator From

772
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: now on.

773
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tanya, the lady anthropologist that you may be so

774
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: invested in at this point in the picture is gone.

775
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: You'll never see her again. Now she is a vessel

776
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: of pure vengeance. So from here we cut to her emergence.

777
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: She emerges a half naked on a midnight shore, Terminator style,

778
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: bolts of animated blue lightning coming off of her body.

779
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: She comes up on the shore, and much like in Terminator,

780
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: she first comes across a group of a hard drinking

781
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: punks out you know, for a night out on the town.

782
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: They're drinking out of brown bags, I guess. And except

783
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: these guys I think are having significantly more fun even

784
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: than the group of punks including Bill Paxton at the

785
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 3: beginning of Terminator, you know what I mean, Like, they

786
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: will not stop laughing, and one guy is just he

787
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: is so just goofully laughing it up that he can't

788
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: stop urinating in a like a stream that's just blasting

789
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: off of him while while he's talking to his buddy.

790
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: It's it's hard to describe the energy of this scene.

791
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: Yes, he basically screams, Oh God, I need a woman

792
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: as he falls to his knees. Beer in one hand,

793
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: cigarette in the other peeing into the air. These are

794
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: the dirt bags that are about to get murdered by

795
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator. And that's that's basically how it goes down.

796
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: She wanders up terminator style, still half naked, but now

797
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: with a green necklace, like a jade necklace that's going

798
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: to be important here in a bit. She approaches these

799
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: these guys and they immediately offer for her pot and

800
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: good times in their car, and basically she makes very

801
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: short work of them death by snooz snow, and she

802
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: takes their clothes, their boots, but she leaves their motor

803
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: car behind exactly.

804
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: And it's the kind of death we saw earlier where

805
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: the guys like mid coitus and then suddenly like spray

806
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: of blood up the stomach into the face.

807
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: He's like, ooh, now for there. It's off to one

808
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: of the many hotels that serve as locations for this film.

809
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: A lot of this film seems to have been filmed

810
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: in very nice looking hotels, and also airport runways and

811
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: also some malls, some nice shopping malls. So seemingly our

812
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator has checked into the penthouse at this nice hotel,

813
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: and we get this. It's kind of I guess a

814
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: meditation scene or communing with the spirit of the south

815
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: Sea Queen. It's pretty cool. They're gels. There's like I

816
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: guess the MTV is playing on the TV. There's an

817
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: enormous penthouse bar and she's like meditating topless before a

818
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: portrait of the South of See queen that's on the wall.

819
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: Why do they have that?

820
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know if it was this

821
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: there or it magically appeared. We get more of this

822
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: time travel Terminator Highlander, the quickening lightning, and this ends

823
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: up exploding liquor bottles, destroying lamps, lights up her eyes

824
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: and nipples, and then the security guard shows up with

825
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: an oozy and just gets immediately taken out. She just

826
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: like yanks him by the collar and you know he's done.

827
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: For So something I noticed is the lady Terminator is

828
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: on a mission. She has a main target that she's

829
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: going after, and we will find out it is the

830
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: singer Erica, who I think we see on the TV.

831
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: In this is that Erica? That would make sense, I think.

832
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: So she's singing on the TV.

833
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: So this is not merely meditation, this is research. She's like, yeah,

834
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: she's seeking out Erica and then powering up so that

835
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: she can go out and get her hook.

836
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: Ah. That's the great granddaughter I'm supposed to get revenge on.

837
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: So there there is that target. But I would say functionally,

838
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 3: what she really hates in this movie is glass and crotches. Yes,

839
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: those are the main things she attacks.

840
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: Yes, she is going to shatter some glass and she's

841
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: going to shatter some crotches. So much crotch violence in

842
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: this picture. We have some great examples to share.

843
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: You could just tell the director was never getting tired

844
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: of it.

845
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So from here we cut to this

846
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: location just screams expat bar. I don't know, I don't

847
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: know where. I couldn't find it. I looked for more

848
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: information about filming locations, even where in Indonesia everything was shot,

849
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: and I didn't.

850
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: Get a lot.

851
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: So this is, I think, supposed to be New York City,

852
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: but it's you know, some sort of a restaurant bar

853
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: environment that has a bunch of Union jacks up.

854
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: And then this is supposed to be New York City.

855
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: I hate There was some detail in this dialogue that

856
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: made me think it, what like, this is not supposed

857
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: to be Indonesia, right, this is supposed to be Max.

858
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be Max's home country.

859
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: Well, I had a lot of questions about where this

860
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: was supposed to take place. Nothing really made sense, but

861
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: I thought it was definitely not supposed to be anywhere

862
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: in the United States, because at one point he calls

863
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: his friends in the United States. He says, I'm calling

864
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 3: putting in a call to my friends in the States,

865
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: and he calls them and they answer and they come over.

866
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: Is this in the bar scene or is this in

867
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: a later scene?

868
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: Maybe in a later scene.

869
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Okay, my read on this, this is a flashback. We

870
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: don't know it's a flashback yet, but we'll find out

871
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: that it's a flashback. I think this is Max in

872
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: his former life, maybe in New York, maybe in Australia,

873
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: who knows. But then we get some hint of a

874
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: tragedy that forces him to then join the Indonesian police force.

875
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I'm confused about what Yes, you were

876
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: right to probably write about this.

877
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Confused by this, But in this sequence, in this bar,

878
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: we meet Max along with I think Snake and Tom

879
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: are there, so that the Snake's presence does lead us

880
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: to wonder if this is maybe actually Indonesia. I don't know,

881
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: but basically what happens is there's a pretty lady in

882
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: the bar. A couple of abusive eighties movie punks show

883
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: up and they start harassing her, and so Snake and

884
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Tom and Max they bump, they bust him up, they

885
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: drive them away, and then we almost immediately cut away

886
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: from Max talking to this lady, to him pining tragically

887
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: over a photograph of himself and said, lady, and apparently

888
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: now he is a homicide detective in perhaps Jakarta.

889
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all making sense now. I was having fragmented

890
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: memories I was starting to piece together. Yes, you're right.

891
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: So so yeah, we see the flashback of him meeting

892
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 3: his wife, and then immediately we cut to something terrible

893
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: has happened. She's gone now and he's he's in Indonesia

894
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: as a police officer for some reason.

895
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but this is what we

896
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: have to work with. Yes, and they're almost immediately called

897
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: out on a job. We get this, We get this

898
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: hilarious hot dog conversation where we get the line, we've

899
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: seen more dead bodies than you've eaten hot dogs. So

900
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: shut up and eat.

901
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying that all the time.

902
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: So they're called out clearly to investigate some of these

903
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: south Sea Queen killings. They don't know it's the south

904
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: Sea Queen yet, but there are some murders happening, and

905
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Max and his team are on the case.

906
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: Is this the part where they go to the morgue

907
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: to see the bodies and they're like, huh, the genitals

908
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: were removed from all these men, and one of them

909
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: is like, could be a small animal.

910
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: That comes later, but this is that's like phase two

911
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: of their work. Yeah, okay, but before we get that,

912
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: we end up having to touch base with Erica, who

913
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: we've I guess seen on the screen. We've talked about

914
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: her already, but this is who will learn to be

915
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: the curse great granddaughter of the Casanova from the opening prologue,

916
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: the woman that the terminator, the lady terminator here is

917
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: out to murder.

918
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 3: So she's a popular music sensation and I think when

919
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: we first meet her, she's being interviewed by like somebody

920
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: comes up with a news camera microphone.

921
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: For yeah, and what is clearly a very nice hotel lobby,

922
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: but they're like, hey, this is Joe Peterson for Channel

923
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: six tell us about how famous you are and can't

924
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: you can you not wait to be famous? Like it's weird.

925
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: They're interviewing her like she's a celebrity, but also asking

926
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: her it's like, what do you think it's going to

927
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: be like when you're famous? And she's like, I can't imagine. Well,

928
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: she's she's still very much an everyday you know, girl

929
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: who wants to go to the mall, and she does

930
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: that in the next scene with her friend Lydia. They're

931
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: trying on jewelry and there they particularly they go to

932
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: a jewelry store and Erica is already wearing an authentic

933
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: jade necklace that is identical to the one that Lady

934
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: Terminator was wearing earlier, and just to confuse things even more,

935
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: Lydia says, I'm going to buy an exact replica of

936
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: your authentic jade necklace that you got from your ancestor.

937
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: And everyone's like, this sounds like a good plan. Meanwhile,

938
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: of course, Lady Terminator has already shown up at the

939
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: mall and is stalking them.

940
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: You don't actually get these sound effects, but as she's

941
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: walking through the mall, you can just hear in your

942
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: head like the.

943
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: And Lady t is decked out in what will be

944
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: her signature look for most of the picture, at least

945
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: when she's not naked, she's wearing a green sports spra.

946
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: She's got black leather jacket on, and then these like

947
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: tight stitched, like open at the sides leather rocker pants

948
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: like eighties heavy not heavy metal, but eighties metal pants. Yes,

949
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: but she doesn't have the green necklace anymore now her

950
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: necklace is black. For whatever reason, didn't notice that change.

951
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: I should also point out that Lady Terminator has great hair.

952
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: She has this like great zool esque head of Sigourney

953
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: Weaver hair going on in most of the picture. And yeah,

954
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: there's no denying constables a stone cold knockout in this end,

955
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: evidently by virtue of the weapons training she's received ultimately

956
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: pretty convincing firing all these guns, which she's about.

957
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 3: To do right, because Erica and her friend they part ways, right,

958
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: Eric has to go do something else and her friend

959
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: goes into the bathroom, and for some reason, Lady Terminator

960
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 3: goes after her first.

961
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: Right, goes into the bathroom, shoots her with an oozy

962
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: kills an innocent bystander and then she pulls the necklace

963
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: off of her and quickly discerns that it's a fake.

964
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: So the hunt continues, more stalking in the mall, more

965
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: senseless murder of humans, and television.

966
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: Sets had to break some glass, that's right.

967
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, cut to the seaside and we see grand Uncle

968
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: Masabu and he is meditating and clearly has a premonition

969
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: that Erica is in trouble, and he draws the sacred

970
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: Chris Knife knife and he realizes he needs to jump

971
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: in there and help. Then we get the autopsy scene

972
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: that we already describe.

973
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so it was not a small animal as they

974
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: first suspect, But then they make some crude jokes and

975
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: then also there is a there's some comic relief in

976
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: the scene because the autop like the morgue attendant is

977
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: just eating spicy noodles.

978
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just there eating noodles. They're like, you're disgusting,

979
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, I gotta eat. And from there we

980
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: cut to the disco sequence that we referenced earlier. They

981
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: later clarified that this is the Manhattan Club.

982
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: The Manhattan Club is the tech noir of Lady Terminy.

983
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: That's right, and this before anything even really happens in

984
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: this scene, it's splendid. It's just great disco vibes. I

985
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: like the way it's shot. I love the colors we

986
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: hear most of, if not the entire song that Eric

987
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: is performing. I wasn't able to hunt down what this

988
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: song is or who who recorded it, where it came from,

989
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: but I.

990
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 3: Think like original it seems is the chorus says something

991
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: like we fight, fight for life, we serve those in power.

992
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 3: That was a little confused, But what is that really

993
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: what it means as all we assist those in power?

994
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: I think it says, well, it's everyone's having a great

995
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: time here. It turns out that Max is here with

996
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: one of his co workers, one of the other detectives

997
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: named Jack. I believe, but we learned Max is living

998
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 3: in the past. He's unable to move on. He can't

999
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: fall in love again after whatever horrible things happened to

1000
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: his previous girlfriend. You know so many cop characters in movies,

1001
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: they're always they're taking it too personal, right the case

1002
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: the case is weighing on them. Max is not taking

1003
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: the job too personal. He's taken his own personal life

1004
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: too personal. Which is a refreshing change.

1005
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Better work life balanced hard to.

1006
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: Say, be yeah, or work grief balance. Yeah.

1007
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Now, of course this party ViBe's not gonna last. Lady

1008
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: T shows up, we get another massive shootout of those

1009
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: bottles on the bar. Don't stand a chance. Nope, she

1010
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: takes those out for sure. So there's an exchange of gunfire.

1011
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: Everyone's running for it. This is the scene where Max

1012
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: apparently blurts out, come with me if you want to live.

1013
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: But after Jack saves the day by like getting some

1014
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: rather impactful shotgun blast than on Lady T. But then

1015
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: Lady murders Jack and he's out of it.

1016
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think does she like twist his head or something? Yeah,

1017
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: So this is a pretty good chase. But this also

1018
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: is one scene where they're going to great lengths to

1019
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: copy exact shots from Terminator, Like the sequence where the

1020
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: Terminator gets knocked down and then you see his fingers

1021
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: twitch and he starts to get back up. They do

1022
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: the exact same thing there, so they're clearly copying a

1023
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: lot of staging. I mentioned this earlier, but did you

1024
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 3: notice the bartender in the tech noir bar here? He's

1025
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 3: got long hair and sunglasses and a cowboy hat. He's

1026
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: just great.

1027
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: I know, I wish you could have seen more of him.

1028
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: So this obviously erupts into it, like we're saying, another

1029
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: big chase scene, more explosions, gunfire, a burning lady terminator

1030
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: on the hood of their vehicle, everybody steals at least

1031
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: one car. But eventually they make it. They make it

1032
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: away to the point that they can start doing some

1033
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: computer research and pull up like a little computer image

1034
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: of Tanya and get a little more detail on what's

1035
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: going on.

1036
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: I'm impressed that they're able to get an image of

1037
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: Tanya's face on what looks like just like a green

1038
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: text command prompt.

1039
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: So at this point they they've got some more research

1040
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: finished and they start getting the adventuring party together. Max

1041
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: is invited to a night out in the town with

1042
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: the boys, and the boys instead are like, we're coming

1043
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: to help you. I think this is Snake and one

1044
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: of the other guys.

1045
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is when he puts a call into what

1046
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: I took to be the States or are they coming internationally?

1047
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 1: To God, that's that doesn't make sense because that's that's

1048
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: a long and definitely not direct flight. I can say

1049
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: from experience.

1050
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, maybe I misunderstood that. But he does call

1051
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 3: his friends. They're like, we'll be there to help, and

1052
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: they will show up in a for a for a

1053
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: great final action scene.

1054
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: And then this is also when grand Uncle Masabu shows

1055
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: up to assist. He checks out Erica's ambulant and he's like, yep,

1056
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: this is it, this is how she's tracking you. But

1057
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: this is in but also, you know, drives some this

1058
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: is a sacred artifact, and so forth.

1059
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: He gives us a.

1060
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: Little more of the lore. Max isn't buying it though,

1061
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: he's like, this is nonsense, and then there's this light

1062
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: almost immediately. Erica says this to excuse him. She says,

1063
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't been in our country very long.

1064
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: But this is also where we're going to get the

1065
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 3: magic dagger, right.

1066
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: That's right. Grandall Goomsabu passes on the Chris to Lydia,

1067
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: but he says, don't worry. I am here to protect you.

1068
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: And it's a good thing he's here to protect her,

1069
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: because the next scene is Lady Terminator driving in through

1070
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: the hotel slash police station's security and just killing everyone inside.

1071
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: So this is another copy of a sequence in Terminator

1072
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: where the Terminator comes to the police station where Sarah

1073
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: Connor is being held and attacks the whole police station

1074
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: looking for her. Lady Terminator does the same thing here,

1075
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: and it begins with, yeah, driving her car through the

1076
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: front desk.

1077
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: And this is the point where I noted from here

1078
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: on out it's almost continuous machine gun fire, like they're

1079
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: not going to let up. But at the same time,

1080
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: it never really gets.

1081
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: Bored well, because it maintains a level of absurdity. Like

1082
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: we mentioned how much she hates glass, so she is

1083
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: gonna shatter every piece of glass she comes across, every bottle,

1084
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: every window, all that. But she also hates crotches, and

1085
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: so in this scene, for example, she like shoots one

1086
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: guy like five hundred times and then after that kicks

1087
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: him in the crotch.

1088
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: That's right, She shoots him off of the rafters, he

1089
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: falls down, she says, where is Erica, and then just

1090
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: shoots him in the torso like two dozen times. Yeah,

1091
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: and then one good kick in the ball is for

1092
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: good measure. And then she goes on to just stylishly

1093
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: gun down the rest of the security detail one by one.

1094
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Some of them she you know, shoots in the back,

1095
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: others she she very strategically shoots in the groin, multiple

1096
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: quality groin kills in this.

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00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 3: I was like, she's aiming for the groin when she can, Yeah.

1098
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: Because that's the south Sea Queen's way, you know, that's

1099
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: that's part of her lustful vengeful mo o. Yeah, she

1100
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: is going to aim for the crotch whenever possible. I think,

1101
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: all in all, in this picture she kills like sixty

1102
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: two people. I didn't do the count myself, but I

1103
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: found one of these websites that includes kill counts for

1104
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: different characters and films like this, and I think it's

1105
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: something like sixty two people. It is a lot, all right.

1106
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: But you know who's going to put a stop to this?

1107
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Grand Uncle Masabu, who shows up now dressed all in white,

1108
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: enters the fray and we get this amazing supernatural standoff

1109
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: between a grand uncle Masabu with the jade amulet and

1110
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator with her machine gun.

1111
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: And you think maybe he's got the power to stop her.

1112
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: That would make sense.

1113
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: It seems like it's working at first, right, because she

1114
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: sees this guy, what is she gonna do? She's gonna

1115
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: shoot him, so she unloads on him with the machine gun,

1116
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: but the bullets are not touching him. He's totally matrixing

1117
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: this situation, and I guess the bullets are just passing

1118
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: through him. And she seems a little perplexed, a little worried, like, Okay,

1119
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: now this is a threat I wasn't prepared for. And

1120
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: then it's grand Uncle Masabu's move. He uses some sort

1121
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: of some form of telekinesis to make the jade amulet

1122
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: fly directly into her eye socket, knocking her down, and

1123
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: she seems to be down for the count. We're like,

1124
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I think he did it. I think

1125
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: he pulled it off. She's not gonna set up Michael

1126
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: Meyer's style and start killing people again.

1127
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: But unfortunately she does. Not only that, but she right.

1128
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: I feel like the grand uncle, he's a character of dignity,

1129
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: and you would have expected him to have a more

1130
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: dignified death, but no, it's once again just obscene, absurd

1131
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: crotch violence.

1132
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: Is this great moment where once she sets up, he

1133
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: glances down at his own crotch and he's like, oh,

1134
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: my crotch is not protected now, or he doesn't say that,

1135
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: but that's implied. And then she indeed pulls the machine

1136
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: gun out and just shoots him directly in the crotch

1137
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: multiple times. He falls against the wall and is dead.

1138
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: I felt this one. I like the grand Uncle.

1139
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: So from this point on, we of course get more

1140
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: machine gun violence that Max and Tom collect Erica and

1141
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: they take off. Somehow they make it out with only

1142
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: Tom suffering a single movie gun shot to the shoulder

1143
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: you know in the movie. Since it's not going to

1144
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: slow him down much. They drive off into the night,

1145
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: finally stopping in the country when they experience engine problems.

1146
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: Though Tom's not there anymore. I don't know where he went.

1147
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: I think they leave him behind when he gets shot.

1148
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, okay.

1149
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: Not maybe they did, because he's not there in the countryside.

1150
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: I thought they're surprised when they see him alive again later.

1151
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay, that I think you're correct.

1152
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: But this is where we're going to get several scenes

1153
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: again recreating scenes from Terminator. So the scene in Terminator

1154
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: is when Reese and Sarah Connor takes shelter under a bridge.

1155
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: They patch up their wounds, and they get some backstory.

1156
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: They talk about some of the themes of the movie,

1157
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: including fate and you know, whether or not the future

1158
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: can be changed and that kind of thing. And also

1159
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: you see their love beginning to blossom. This covers some

1160
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: of the same territory. But this is also the scene

1161
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: where we get the like does it hurt the bullet wound?

1162
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: Na of course this ky, this guy is not from

1163
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: the future. He's just a homicide detective, so there's nothing

1164
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: to talk about there. But you do get some of

1165
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: his tragic backstory, telling the story of how his wife

1166
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: was killed, and that's you know, the source of his

1167
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: pain now. But I don't know, for some reason, you

1168
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: haven't really seen any good reason for them to be

1169
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: falling in love, but they do. So Max and Erica

1170
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, we're lovers now.

1171
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. They have a tender love scene in which blood

1172
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: is not splurted anywhere and in which no snakes or

1173
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: knives factor into the love making at all.

1174
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: Also, in what I thought was a pretty funny choice,

1175
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 3: it also takes shots directly from the sex scene in Terminator.

1176
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of ripping off Terminator shot for shot, now

1177
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: we go to the topless regenerations for Lady t. It's

1178
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: the gels are in place again. This is back in

1179
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: the I guess the same hotel Penthouse from before. The

1180
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: music here, I thought specifically sounded a little bit like

1181
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: Biosphere with a little bit of with with certainly those

1182
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Terminator vibes as well.

1183
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: Yes, there's that. And this is going to be the

1184
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: scene from Terminator where his eye is damaged, so he

1185
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 3: has to take his fleshy eye out and reveal the

1186
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 3: you know, the machine eye Underneath's.

1187
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 1: A great sequence in the original Terminator, one that really

1188
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: stuck with me as a young viewer, and of course

1189
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: one that makes total sense. The Terminator is a machine.

1190
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: His eye is damage, his real eye beneath the flesh

1191
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: he has to make repairs, and therefore he has to

1192
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, cut into his body is fleshy parts, remove

1193
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: the fleshy parts, and repair the metal.

1194
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: Underneath, right, and so his eyes will be shielded by

1195
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 3: dark sunglasses for the rest of the movie for that reason.

1196
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: But the lady Terminator, she's got to take her eye out,

1197
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm going to say. I was

1198
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 3: fairly impressed by the makeup effects here. Yeah, they have

1199
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: like a copy of her head that looked convincing enough.

1200
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: She's like cutting into the eye with the scalpel. I

1201
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: was like ooh, how are they doing that? For a

1202
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 3: second before I realized like, oh wait, that's not really her,

1203
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: that's like a mannequin head. But it looks pretty good.

1204
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the effects were good. It's ripping off terminator,

1205
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: but doing it somewhat effectively. I don't know that it

1206
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: made any sense, because again, she's not a machine. There's

1207
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: no reason for her to take her eyeball out, and

1208
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: yet she removes her eyeball, seems to wash it off,

1209
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: and then there's some highlander quickening sparks off of it,

1210
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: and then she just sticks it back in and it's like, oh,

1211
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: all fixed up and ready for more sex and death.

1212
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right.

1213
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: But before that happens, there's a we get some more

1214
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: strong zool vibes because a bus boy shows up with breakfast,

1215
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: and of course he gets sex murder.

1216
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 3: He does not take any convincing. He shows up with

1217
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: the breakfast and she's like hey, and she does the

1218
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 3: little like curl the finger like come here. Yeah, he's

1219
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: just immediately like taking his tie off.

1220
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's like an extra and a Benny Hill

1221
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: sketch and he is already at that like that frantic speed.

1222
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1223
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 1: So she kills him. And then meanwhile, back at the mall,

1224
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: we're back at the mall again, the lovebirds Max and Sorry.

1225
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: This is this is the scene I mentioned earlier where

1226
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 3: it was really funny how they were running. They were

1227
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: on the run, and they're just suddenly at the mall

1228
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: and it seems like they're kind of taking it easy.

1229
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: They're just shopping.

1230
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Max and Erica here are on the run from

1231
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: a supernatural uh avatar of vengeance, and they're like, what

1232
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: if we went shopping? Maybe went to the food mall,

1233
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: And so that's what they decided to do. Maybe maybe

1234
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: they're thinking, you know where we'd be safe from Lady Terminator,

1235
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: a place with high population density. So of course Lady

1236
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: Terminator shows up again. More gunshots, more bystander deaths.

1237
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: Place is full of glass, Yeah.

1238
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: More glasses shattered, and our hero and heroin drive off again,

1239
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: this time I believe, intending to meet the rest of

1240
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: the team at the airport for a final showdown with

1241
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator. That's right, this is another scene where everyone

1242
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: steals at least one car for the next phase of

1243
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: the action.

1244
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: Yes, but man, when they get to the to the

1245
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 3: airport runway for the final action scene. This is a

1246
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: good final showdown. Yeah, I give it two thumbs up. Yeah.

1247
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: I definitely had some jaw dropping moments here and also

1248
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: some enormous laughs. One early on is you know everyone

1249
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: knows im Predator. We get that great Dutch Dylan handshake.

1250
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: I guess you'd call it a handshake. It's like the

1251
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: Muscle moment where.

1252
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 3: Arm wrestling in the air sort of.

1253
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's of course an awesome, iconic moment, but

1254
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: this film has four heroes working together, so we get

1255
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: a quadruple Dutch Dylan Predator handshake and it's it's glorious.

1256
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: It's really good, and we have plenty of red shirts

1257
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: around that are obviously going to get blasted. So yeah,

1258
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: basically everyone ends up on the airport tarmac and multiple

1259
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: elements are in play here. We have Lady Terminator driving

1260
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: around in a car.

1261
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 4: Yes.

1262
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: A helicopter is in play shooting air to ground missiles

1263
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: at Lady Terminator.

1264
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: Yes.

1265
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: Then we have Snake show up and he's what is

1266
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: he d like some sort of armored personnel carrier.

1267
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 3: They call it the Panzer. It looked to me just

1268
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: like a truck with like some stuff built around it.

1269
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: To make it look like a like a tank of

1270
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 3: some kind, but he's driving it and he's like ramming

1271
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: her with it and just cussing her out as he

1272
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 3: rams into her. That's yeah, so funny.

1273
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: Some hilarious profanity here. Yeah, the enthusiasm of the delivery

1274
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: is great though, Yes, so good. So yeah, he rams her,

1275
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: he like ty bones her vehicle, but she's clearly still

1276
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: a lot still alive, so Snake runs for it, and

1277
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: then the mustachio guy who I think is named Joe,

1278
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: fires a bazooka at her as well as the suddenly

1279
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: adjacent fuel tanker, and there's an enormous explosion, and I

1280
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: think it's Max who says, yeah that that should be

1281
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: enough to kill anybody.

1282
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but hey, we've seen Terminator, right, The Terminator

1283
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: gets blown up in an exploding tanker and they think

1284
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: they're safe, and they're not. Of course, it's going to

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Speaker 3: rise up, having all of the flesh burned off of

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Speaker 3: it and now being only the metal endos skeleton underneath.

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Speaker 3: Not quite the case. Instead, she turns into a half

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Speaker 3: melted sort of zombie being.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kind of a zombie burnt up zombiefide form here. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and she's even more unstoppable. Now, this is one of

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Speaker 1: the cases where you often see sometimes the the hero

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Speaker 1: does it, sometimes the villain does it. But late stage

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Speaker 1: they find that that higher year that unlocks additional weaponry.

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Speaker 1: This seems like could have been useful earlier in the picture,

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Speaker 1: in this case laser eyes.

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Speaker 3: And this is how our beloved Snake meets his end.

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Speaker 3: I hated that they that the laser beamed snake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Snake eats it here, takes some laser beams to

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Speaker 1: the chest. I think they shoot her like a million

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Speaker 1: more times, and she keeps coming, and we do get

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Speaker 1: a moment where Max is like he acknowledges Snake's death

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Speaker 1: and he goes so long, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's a couple of moments like that. There's another

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Speaker 3: one where she the helicopter swoops down and catches her

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Speaker 3: in a net.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, that was crazy. Catches her in

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Speaker 1: a net, and then what does she do. She looks

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Speaker 1: up and I blast the chopper and herself out of

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Speaker 1: the sky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she blows up the chopper. And then we cut

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Speaker 3: to one of the buddies there who one of the

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Speaker 3: guys says, it just kind of like blankly says like,

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Speaker 3: tom My, buddy, it's so hilarious, like while the helicopter

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Speaker 3: is still exploding mid fireball.

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Speaker 1: Shrapnel flying everywhere, but he takes a moment to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tom My buddy.

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Speaker 3: And then was that Tom in the helicopter?

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Speaker 1: I was confused that I don't think we knew that

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Speaker 1: that was not the other Tom. That will I think

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Speaker 1: get back to here in just a second. That was

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Speaker 1: a different Tom. She proceeds to so Lady Terminator at

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Speaker 1: this point just proceeds to blow everyone and everything up

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Speaker 1: with her ie beams and seemingly kills the other Tom

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Speaker 1: or the Tom Prime we'll call him, in the process,

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Speaker 1: the one played by the rockstar that we referenced earlier. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Max runs out of AMMO. He tries to club Lady

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Speaker 1: T with his machine gun, but she, you know, quickly

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Speaker 1: like bashes him, beats him up, and now it's just

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Speaker 1: Lady T chasing Erica up the stairs of what I

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Speaker 1: assumed to be like an air traffic control tower, and

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Speaker 1: things are feeling really dire here because there's no way

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Speaker 1: there's going to be an industrial hydraulic press up there

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Speaker 1: to defeat the Terminator.

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Speaker 3: That's right, So what's she gonna do? But you do

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Speaker 3: see tucked into the back of her clothes as she's

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Speaker 3: running up the stairs. She still got the wrapped up

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Speaker 3: gift from her grand.

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Speaker 1: Uncle, Ah, the Sacred Chris. Yes, I didn't even notice

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Speaker 1: it in her belt here, so I'd kind of forgotten

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: about it. Because up at the top of the tower,

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Speaker 1: Lady Terminator catches up, goes in for the kill. Max

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: catches up, but he's not much use. She like throws

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Speaker 1: him down a flight of stairs and and then she

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Speaker 1: climbs on top of Erica and begins to like strangle

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Speaker 1: her or something. But then that's when Erica pulls out

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01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: the Chris.

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Speaker 3: And is it sort of a Highlander type defeating the

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Speaker 3: monster here? Is there some lightning involved?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is great because she stabs a Lady Terminator

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Speaker 1: with the Chris. There's like a quickening explosion with the

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Speaker 1: animated blue lightning, and then the Chris floats in the air,

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: glows and shoots off like a space ship into the night.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful magnifico.

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Speaker 1: So it's been dark this whole time, but now it

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Speaker 1: seems like the sun is coming up, a light is

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Speaker 1: coming back into the world, and so now we see

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Speaker 1: our surviving couple. They've been bandaged up. They're grieving for

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Speaker 1: the dead as they take them by on stretchers. And

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Speaker 1: then they bring by Tom on his stretcher and he's

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Speaker 1: seemingly still alive, and we get this great little exchange

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Speaker 1: with him where he says, I want to live forever.

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Speaker 3: That's great. No, no, that's actually an interesting, nice a line. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: discovers after having been eyeball blasted by Lady Terminator or

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Speaker 3: whatever happened to him, I forget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's send you. He was definitely eyeball blasted, and

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Speaker 1: he was shot with the ballistics earlier, so he's been

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Speaker 1: through it at this point. But now his new goal

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Speaker 1: is to just maybe not die and maybe ever. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's understandable given what he suffered.

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Speaker 3: Oh but hey, remember that voice that came in with

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Speaker 3: narration at the beginning about the cupboards of recorded time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, comes back at the end. So as there's

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Speaker 3: like a sunset or not sunset, it's the sunrise. I

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01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: guess everything's everything's going okay now, and the voice comes

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Speaker 3: in that says, the struggle within our souls is never ending.

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Speaker 3: The life of man short and brutal torn between good

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Speaker 3: and evil of the eternity around us. We know nothing.

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Speaker 3: The stars look on They have been here long before

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: man appeared on our small planet, and they will be

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Speaker 3: here after we are no more. The end beautiful. What

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Speaker 3: what does that have to do with it?

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's a message that we learn too

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: late for sure. Now it really does feel like the

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Speaker 1: opening narration and the closing narration were perhaps one narration bit,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, should we put this at the

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01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: beginning or should we put at the end, And they're like, no,

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Speaker 1: let's split it up, split the difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he learned only too late that eel is a

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Speaker 3: biting creature.

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Speaker 1: I guess the message is beware the south Sea Queen. Really,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like a warning. I don't I think

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: that's the main error in anyone's ways here is don't

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Speaker 1: tangle with the south Sea Queen.

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Speaker 3: I think that is it. Yes, if you know there,

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01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 3: if you know of an evil deep sea sex goddess somewhere,

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Speaker 3: you should you should not go to her palace.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Even if you yourself are very confident, think

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: about your great grandchildren, think about the legacy of your

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01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: poor decisions. Beautiful though she may be.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was Lady Terminator again. I think one of

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Speaker 3: the wildest and funniest movies we have watched for this show.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's like both of these films. Not for everyone,

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: but if it's for you, boy, it's a treat.

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna need to be comfortable with a good

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01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 3: bit of sex and violence, but it doesn't get much

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Speaker 3: more absurd than this.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go ahead and close out this

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Speaker 1: episode of Weird House Cinema, but we'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: from everyone out there. If you have other suggestions from

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