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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in now.

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Speaker 2: All of you had a fantastic Labor Day holiday, had

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun, and are ready now for what

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Speaker 2: is going to be an absolutely bonkers fall as we

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Speaker 2: roll into the January fifteenth Iowa Caucuses and officially begin

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Speaker 2: what I would say is campaign season. We are sitting

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Speaker 2: at only four or so months away from the actual

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Speaker 2: beginning of the process in twenty twenty four. Everybody is

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Speaker 2: officially starting the sprint. January fifteenth is that date in Iowa,

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Speaker 2: and the craziness is getting ratcheted up on the Democrat

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Speaker 2: side as more and more people continue to recognize that

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is not able to do this job pulling

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Speaker 2: out on that issue. We've got doctor Fauci confronted on

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Speaker 2: Masks on CNN, which should have happened years ago. But

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Speaker 2: I think many of you are going to enjoy it

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Speaker 2: if you haven't already seen it. College football underway. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Buck's been his entire weekend watching games starting on

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Speaker 2: Thursday all through the weekend, and the NFL is coming back. Buck,

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Speaker 2: the Biden administration planning on Thursday night for the launch

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Speaker 2: of the NFL season, spending millions of dollars to argue

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Speaker 2: that the economy is strong. That is a story from Axios,

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Speaker 2: all of those ads being purchased in toss up states.

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Speaker 2: But well, first of all, did you have a good

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Speaker 2: Labor Day? Anything exciting, anything extraordinary in your world? I

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Speaker 2: wrote a lot about six seven thousand words.

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Speaker 1: I think, oh, that's yes.

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Speaker 2: So you've got the book that you're working on that

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to turn in around the end of the year, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you just buckled down and set and wrote on

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Speaker 2: the book.

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Speaker 3: I did try to give people a little bit of

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Speaker 3: help out there for their Labor Day barbecue, which is

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan. I've got a couple of maxims

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Speaker 3: for restaurants and food. One is, if you're with a

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Speaker 3: group of people, the answer to you, should we order

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Speaker 3: some fries for the table? It's always yes. It's a

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Speaker 3: very good advice. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: The French fries always get eaten, and someone's always.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, I don't know, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Cuto or whatever. Shut up.

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Speaker 3: The French fries are gonna get eaten. It always happens.

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Speaker 3: Another one is, if you're having a barbecue. You're having

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Speaker 3: all this amazing stuff. You got your t bones, your porterhouse,

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Speaker 3: you'rre uh. You know your filets. Everything you're throwing on,

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Speaker 3: they're your burgers, Italian sausage, or any kind of hot

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Speaker 3: or sweet sausage. You throw it on there, get a

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Speaker 3: nice char on. You can't go wrong. Overcook it, undercook it,

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Speaker 3: no one cares. Still gonna taste delicious. So that was

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Speaker 3: about as Labor Day weekendy as I I got. Other

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Speaker 3: than that, it was it was head down. I watched

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Speaker 3: some tennis. What what what percentage of this audience you

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Speaker 3: think are are pretty avid tennis fans? I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: that is the sport that I watched. That's that sounds

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Speaker 3: about right. I would say that's a sport I watched

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Speaker 3: the most. I play the most and enjoy the most.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Did you see what Aaron Rodgers put out? Did you

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Speaker 2: see his Instagram post?

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Speaker 3: I saw he crossed out moderna on Instagram. Clay he

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Speaker 3: is my favorite of the football quarterback players.

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Speaker 1: Very good.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is now playing in New York City for

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Speaker 2: the Jets, and he went to watch Novak Djokovic play

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Speaker 2: and on his Instagram account, he canceled out the Maderna logo, which,

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Speaker 2: of course, the amount of advertising that Pfizer and Maderna

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Speaker 2: do for their worthless COVID shots is truly extraordinary. But

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Speaker 2: then said he was excited to watch the goat play,

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Speaker 2: which is pretty great. And I give credit to Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers for continuing to be willing to speak truth on

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Speaker 2: these COVID shots. And we'll get to that in a

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Speaker 2: little bit. But Buck, this is crazy, and this is

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Speaker 2: my favorite thing all weekend. I think when you're going

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Speaker 1: Are you not going?

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Speaker 2: I thought we should save the fouch for the second

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Speaker 3: Number two and Clay's mind, he's back everybody.

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Speaker 1: We also have.

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of number two, maybe the worst

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Speaker 2: huge article in today's Wall Street Journal. They their Democrats

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Speaker 2: are going to try to use the fourteenth Amendment to

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Speaker 2: he is the Republican nominee. And I think this is

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Speaker 2: important to say. I am not in any way endorsing this,

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Speaker 2: but it is important for all of you to understand

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Speaker 2: what is coming. And in the same way that Buck

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Speaker 2: and I told you, he's going to get indicted in

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Speaker 2: to get indicted in Atlanta. That was not a hey,

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Speaker 2: we're rooting for this. It's that you need to prepare

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Speaker 2: yourself for where we are headed. And we saw this

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Speaker 2: to take her off the ballot. But you can already

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Speaker 2: see the arguments being made, and now that the indictments

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Speaker 2: just want to make everyone aware of what this argument

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Speaker 2: need to prepare yourselves for it. They are going to argue,

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Speaker 2: Democrats are that to a fourteenth Amendment in section three

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Speaker 2: that was designed to deal with former Confederates, that Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is ineligible to be president of the United States

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Speaker 2: because he engaged in an insurrection and that he violated

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Speaker 2: his oath to support the US Constitution, and therefore he

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Speaker 2: is not eligible to be elected president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: I brought this up a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this possibility on the show, and you're

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Speaker 3: seeing the early rumblings of it in a way that's

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Speaker 3: I think indicative, just like what Klay said a second

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Speaker 3: all the indictments. This is coming folk. They're going to

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Speaker 3: do this. I don't know where exactly. We have some

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Speaker 3: ideas what states these challenges may be brought. Even the

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Speaker 3: Cruz won that you know, won that suit.

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Speaker 1: That did not.

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Speaker 3: But this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

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Speaker 3: What I do know for sure, I think we all

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Speaker 3: legal merits, this is a simultaneous push or a simultaneous,

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Speaker 3: a two pronged attack. The process is the punishment. Once again,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have people talking about the insurrection.

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Speaker 1: Trump was a part of an insurrection.

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Speaker 3: So they get political mileage out of this legal challenge.

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Speaker 3: Even if it ends up being frivolous, and they can

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Speaker 1: So this is what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I think they are going to take him off the

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Speaker 2: ballot in Michigan, in California, right the toss up states

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Speaker 1: This is bold. You think they'll actually manage to do it,

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I think they will take him off

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Speaker 2: huge fourteenth Amendment Trump Panic. It's the lead editorial in

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Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal, I said, we need to familiarize

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Speaker 2: are aware of what's coming. They will pull him off

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Speaker 2: nine ten am. You are going to be seeing Buck

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Speaker 2: Our faces on billboards all over southeast Michigan.

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Speaker 1: So if you see those tagged at.

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Speaker 2: But all this stuff. Then what happens is the Trump

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Speaker 2: It's clearly illegitimate to take him off the ballot. There'll

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Speaker 2: an insurrection. January sixth. Democrats can't talk about it enough.

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Speaker 2: It will go to the Supreme Court. Buck, the United

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Speaker 2: then say Trump has rigged the game, he is flouting

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Speaker 2: how he seeded the Supreme Court justices. And this will

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Speaker 2: be a major sales pitch for them in the campaign.

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Speaker 2: This is what's coming.

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Speaker 3: And that's in addition to four correct criminal indictments have

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Speaker 1: So just what else are they planning? At this one?

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Speaker 2: You have to wonder, you know, what else? Can they

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Speaker 2: really legitimately have him in prison? I mean that's not

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Speaker 3: I honestly did not think that it could get this crazy,

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Speaker 3: I just have to keep an open mind to whatever

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Speaker 3: There are the people for whom this is all just

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Speaker 3: You know, this was interesting, team, welcome back. Clay and

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Speaker 3: I were just talking about all this stuff they're throwing

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Speaker 3: There's no precedent for this. Well, putting Trump in prison

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Speaker 2: doubling down on that strategy. Here's the challenge I would

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Speaker 2: say that may well play in I think twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: If we get Trump v. Biden, It's going to be

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Speaker 2: a story of two parts. It's going to be the

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Speaker 2: criminality of Trump in terms of independent voters, and it's

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Speaker 2: again alleged criminality, because you guys all know that we

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Speaker 2: believe this is actually a direct threat to democracy and

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Speaker 2: it's all ridiculous charges.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's all worth.

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Speaker 2: But for their purposes of their strategy of the case,

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Speaker 2: so to speak, it's the criminality of Trump that will

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Speaker 2: guarantee Democrats win. Here's the challenge. I think they're not

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Speaker 2: factoring in enough buck. I actually think Biden's dementia and

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Speaker 2: his age and his physical and mental deterioration is a

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Speaker 2: bigger story than Trump's criminality. So it's Biden's mental issues

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Speaker 2: versus Trump's criminality, which one, I'm telling you this is

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Speaker 2: the election which one is more compelling to the independent

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Speaker 2: voter in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: If you think back to like nineties political dramas, we

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Speaker 3: always thought that presidential elections were going to be esteemed

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Speaker 3: statesmen with PCs and military service squaring off against each

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Speaker 3: other and a gentleman's duel of wits in them, and

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Speaker 3: now we've got this situation. I think that for both

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Speaker 3: sides it's I think there's a sense of we can't lose.

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Speaker 3: Whether you're on the Republican side or the Democrat side

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Speaker 3: of this, the belief among the party faithful is we

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Speaker 3: can't lose because the other guy is so awful, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a Democrat certainly believe that about Trump,

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Speaker 3: and I think Republicans and Trump voters definitely believe that

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Speaker 3: about about dementia Joe. But one thing about all this too,

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Speaker 3: that because look the data, we try to look at

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Speaker 3: what has happened, and this is why you know, there

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Speaker 3: is some there's some static.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's some.

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Speaker 3: Concern that you can point to with twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: with carry Lake's loss, with Blake, Master's loss, with herschel

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Speaker 3: Walker's loss, with Doug Mastriano up in doctor Oz, Doctor Oz.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's concerning, however, meaning that like, is the Trump you know,

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Speaker 3: is the Trump magic now what it used to be? Now,

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Speaker 3: let's be honest. That's what the concern is. Given all

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Speaker 3: the stuff that's gone on. Are people tired of them?

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: But I also remember Barack Obama.

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Speaker 3: If we're just looking at this from the perspective of

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Speaker 3: of what we've seen as a dynamic in politics, Barack

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Speaker 3: Obama's popularity never translated to other picks, to other candidates,

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Speaker 3: to people who supported In fact, it was Obama's tenure

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Speaker 3: as president was pretty disastrous for the Democrat Party. There

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Speaker 3: was no way he was losing that twenty twelve election,

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Speaker 3: not to Mitt Romney, right, and he obviously won two

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Speaker 3: thousand and twenty twelve by a lot. What I'm saying

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Speaker 3: is Trump running in this case, Maybe you know, it's

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Speaker 3: very different than who Trump necessarily has supported. Now people

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Speaker 3: appoint to twenty twenty and I get that that's the

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Speaker 3: immediate rejoinder to this, But to that, we just say

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Speaker 3: it was a once in a century pandemic where half

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Speaker 3: the country shut down. You didn't really run the experiment

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Speaker 3: the way that you would in any other election year.

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Speaker 2: I'll also point out that so far, and we are

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Speaker 2: sitting at four months and whatever it is, ten days

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Speaker 2: roughly until the Iowa caucus voting starts, when all of

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Speaker 2: you out there begin to be able to have your

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Speaker 2: vo ch is heard than New Hampshire, then South Carolina,

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Speaker 2: than Nevada, all of that.

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Speaker 1: Right. I'll also point this out.

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Speaker 2: I'm not hearing electability as a major debate part of

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Speaker 2: the Republican decision. Now maybe that changes as we get

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Speaker 2: closer to actual votes being cast. But to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I think there is a belief that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 2: so bad that every Republican nominee will win. And the

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Speaker 2: one thing I would say that everybody needs to keep

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Speaker 2: in mind is, Buck, if we were having this exact

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Speaker 2: conversation in twenty nineteen, analyzing the Democrat field, and we

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Speaker 2: would have said, Joe Biden's a joke, there's no way

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Speaker 2: he's going to be the nominee. He did get crushed

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Speaker 2: in eye. I did say that, and I did think

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Speaker 2: he wasn't going to be the nominee. So yeah, so

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Speaker 2: you I was still doing sports at the time. But

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Speaker 2: what I would say is something big is going to

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Speaker 2: happen in twenty twenty four that none of us can predict.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is. It could be Taiwan.

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Speaker 2: You've been saying it.

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Speaker 1: July, when you were saying it's all over.

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Speaker 2: And Trump's I'm saying twenty four, I think Trump's going

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Speaker 2: to be the nominee. Predicting right now. I'm saying, in

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Speaker 2: twenty four, after Biden was the nominee, COVID happened. You

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Speaker 2: could have spent and all these consultants spent all this

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Speaker 2: time talking about what the biggest stories were going to be,

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Speaker 2: and then COVID happens.

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Speaker 1: I just keep thinking, and I hope I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, I keep thinking that there's going to be It

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Speaker 2: could be a health condition of one or the other

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Speaker 2: guys seventy seven against eighty. It could be Taiwan gets

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Speaker 2: invaded by China. It could be something that I mean,

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Speaker 2: none of us could have predicted COVID, something in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four that is totally off the expectation is going

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Speaker 2: to happen, and we're already expecting a lot of crazy stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the political Tali rand of pugilism. Mike Tyson

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Speaker 3: once said, everyone has a plan till they get punched

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Speaker 3: in the mouth. Someone's getting punched in the mouth next

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Speaker 3: year in a big way. Something is going to happ happen,

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Speaker 3: and we'll have to see have to be ready for

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Speaker 3: I say this offline, but as we'll say this to

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Speaker 3: We're going to dive into the surge in COVID mania.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be too concerned about the cases because it's

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Speaker 3: a cold. Now, it is a cold, It has the

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Speaker 3: symptoms of a cold, about the same level of danger

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Speaker 3: as one. And yet they're still reporting on this. I

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Speaker 3: think it's fascinating to see how many people go, oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, you just see so and so has covid.

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Speaker 3: This is almost like Reuter is running a headline about

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Speaker 3: somebody stubbed their ho who cares well? Libs care and

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Speaker 3: doctor Fauci is back. He missed Clay. He wants to

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Speaker 3: check on him because he knows he's very anti science

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Speaker 3: because he refuses three or four masks at once. So

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Speaker 3: Clay is on shot number zero. Fauci wants him to

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Speaker 3: get up to seven. Clay, You're gonna have to use

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Speaker 3: both arms, buddy. It's gonna take me a while to

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Speaker 3: get all seven in.

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Speaker 2: I have made a lot of choices in my life, Buck,

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Speaker 2: never getting the COVID shot is one that I am

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Speaker 2: proud of. And to be fair, I was gonna get

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Speaker 2: the crappy one shot thing that you got, but my

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Speaker 2: wife had me signed up. This is back in whatever

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Speaker 2: it was like, you know, May of twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: or whatever. But the shot got pulled off the market

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Speaker 2: when I was scheduled to go to my local publics

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Speaker 2: and get it, and I never got it, and I

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Speaker 2: feel like I dodged a bullet there.

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Speaker 3: How many really excellent, how many really amazing antibiotics can

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Speaker 3: you think of that were pulled off entirely out of

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Speaker 3: circulation in about in a year or less than a year.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a single one unless there were massive.

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Speaker 2: Part I don't think you can even get the Johnson

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Speaker 2: and Johnson shot anymore that you got nogitimately doesn't exist.

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Speaker 1: Not given does not.

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Speaker 3: Now that shot was a traditional vaccine that was effectively

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Speaker 3: a flu shot everybody. Yeah, it wasn't an mRNA vaccine,

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Speaker 3: So it was like I'm getting a flu shot for covid,

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Speaker 3: which is why a lot of people chose to get

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Speaker 3: that one, because it was not mRNA technology. It was

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Speaker 3: just this is our best guess at a vacuine you know,

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Speaker 3: and as we know, the mutation occurred, and so you're

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Speaker 3: Johnson and Johnson vaccine. I think at one point they

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Speaker 3: were suggesting it like maybe it protected you for two

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Speaker 3: months or something. I mean, it was really it was

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Speaker 3: weak sauce everybody, Yeah, week sauce. But it didn't have

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Speaker 3: any of the mRNA side effects because it's not an

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Speaker 3: m RNA vaccine. We'll get into all this COVID stuff.

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Speaker 3: We got to want to weigh on the four themendment thing.

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Speaker 3: Let's try to keep it tight. Fourteenth dimendmuth callers, because

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Speaker 3: we've got like six of you already right now, Alan

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Speaker 3: and Maine.

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Speaker 1: What have you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, thanks taking my call. I'm calling because our

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Speaker 5: state has just been taken over by Democrats in the

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Speaker 5: last four or five years. We have a Secretary of

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Speaker 5: State whose name is Shannon Bellows. We have an Attorney

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Speaker 5: general whose name is Aaron Fry, and they they are

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Speaker 5: buddy buddy, and they do not like Trump, and they've

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Speaker 5: come out vocally, you guys, and they've said they're going

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Speaker 5: to take Trump off the ballot. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you know Maine too well, but Maine's pretty divided. Northern Maine,

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Speaker 5: it's the Bible Belt where we all voted for Trump.

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Speaker 5: He got he got one. I mean, we're tiny ol state.

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Speaker 5: He got one down southern Maine. You know, Biden got

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Speaker 5: the other one. But Maine all over and all overall,

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Speaker 5: Maine is Maine is Maine. Maine is the way life

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Speaker 5: should be. And it's just too bad because our cities

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Speaker 5: and the people that moved up during COVID moved into

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Speaker 5: the coast, all all the all the wealthy people moved

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Speaker 5: into their summer homes and they really changed Maine. And

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Speaker 5: these people are coming out and they're threatening us and

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Speaker 5: we we we have no representation. We have we have

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Speaker 5: you probably know where. Her name is, Susan Collins she

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Speaker 5: has more visual She had a voice like nothing else

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Speaker 5: when Trump was in office. Do you notice how quiet

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Speaker 5: she is. There is so much to impeach Biden on

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Speaker 5: and she's doing nothing. We are so angry up here.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm so glad you guys brought this up

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Speaker 5: because Shannon Bellows and Ernie Fry are disgusting.

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Speaker 1: I love you guys.

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Speaker 5: Keep it going.

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Speaker 3: Thank you man, thank you for calling, and thank you

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Speaker 3: for the passion too. I think, unfortunately, Clay, we don't

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Speaker 3: really talked about this very much. Florida, Tennessee got the

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Speaker 3: freedom fighters, yes, Vermont, Maine, maybe New Hampshire a bit.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the movement during COVID they got the

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Speaker 3: rich communists.

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Speaker 1: That's what ended up happening.

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Speaker 2: And again we're not rooting for this, but his call

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Speaker 2: is really important. They are going to try to take

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Speaker 2: Trump off the ballot, citing the fourteenth Amendment in several

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Speaker 2: several of these I.

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Speaker 3: Think the chance that this will be tried, in my

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Speaker 3: mind ninety percent right now.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's fair they'll try I would even

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Speaker 2: go one hundred percent. Somebody's gonna try it. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the impact is going to be my concern

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Speaker 2: Buck is, and this is why I ask you go

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Speaker 2: to the incentives, and you can predict almost anything that's

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Speaker 2: going to happen. What is the negative incentive for a

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Speaker 2: Democrat to try to take Trump off the ballot? Will

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Speaker 2: Democrats hold them accountable in any way?

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Speaker 3: Elect To put to you this way, if I were advising,

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Speaker 3: if I were a completely a moral person who cared

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Speaker 3: not for the Republic, and I were advising a state

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Speaker 3: attorney general in a blue or even purple state, but

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Speaker 3: who was a Democrat, should you try this maneuver against Trump?

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Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, you should, because you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: your name in the headlines as a Democrat hero for weeks,

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Speaker 3: if not months.

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Speaker 2: That's it's all about friends, speaking of narcissists. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: happen bout you.

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