WEBVTT - Concrete Plans: An Unconventional Journey

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<v Speaker 1>This is my margin trowl. And you always know a

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<v Speaker 1>finisher because we've we've got him in our back pockets

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<v Speaker 1>sticking out. And it's such a small tool, but you

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<v Speaker 1>just use this all the time when you're pouring concrete,

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<v Speaker 1>ees to scrape your forms, use it to get in

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<v Speaker 1>little corners that maybe your other trials are too big for.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can always tell a finisher by the margin trowl.

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<v Speaker 1>When Liz Nichols was in her twenties, she knew that

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted two things financial stability and to start a family,

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<v Speaker 1>but she had no roadmap to help her achieve those goals.

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<v Speaker 1>That is until the day she met a guide who

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<v Speaker 1>would show her a new world of work. In this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of I'm the Job, brought to you by Express

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<v Speaker 1>Employment Professionals, we'll hear a story about shattering expectations in

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<v Speaker 1>order to find meaningful work. If you want to find

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<v Speaker 1>grow your workforce, Express Employment Professionals is for you. Find

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<v Speaker 1>more information at express prose dot com. Um Now producer

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Siegel has the story of Liz Nichols. It's early

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, I'm in Northwest Portland, in a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>where new developments are springing up like dandelions. I parked

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<v Speaker 1>behind a beat up old truck, a nine Toyota that

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<v Speaker 1>belongs to my friend Liz. How's work going so far?

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<v Speaker 1>This morning? While most of Portland is waking up, Liz

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<v Speaker 1>has been at work for a couple hours. She greets

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<v Speaker 1>me in her loose, dirty jeans and union hoodie. Under

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<v Speaker 1>her chin, she has what's called a particulate respirator. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the construction workers version of a surgical mask. Liz

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<v Speaker 1>is a journeyman cement mason, and today she's working in

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<v Speaker 1>a half finished building. There's some sheet metal guys, some

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<v Speaker 1>electricians running wire. But yeah, there's we got just different

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<v Speaker 1>trades people were kind of working around. As a woman

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<v Speaker 1>in the trades, Liz has certainly taken an unusual path.

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<v Speaker 1>Only three percent of people working on constructions sights are women.

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<v Speaker 1>That means for every one hundred plumbers or carpenters or mechanics,

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<v Speaker 1>only about three of them are women. But since she

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<v Speaker 1>was a child growing up in Massachusetts, she's always been

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a contrarian. This one time, my father

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<v Speaker 1>took me in my siblings to the fire station and

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<v Speaker 1>Waltham because one of my mom's cousins was a firefighter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a bunch of guys, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>very clearly as nine or ten, asking if there were

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<v Speaker 1>any women firefighters, and they said there had never been

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<v Speaker 1>a woman firefighter in the history of wealthy and firefighting.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that moment I wanted to be a firefighter

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<v Speaker 1>really badly. But the expectations that were placed on Liz

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<v Speaker 1>by her family, by society and culture, they had her

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<v Speaker 1>pointing in a different direction. You go to college and

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<v Speaker 1>then magically you figure it out. You go to college

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<v Speaker 1>and you come out and people will pay you good

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<v Speaker 1>money to do things. And so I didn't I think

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<v Speaker 1>twice such as go to college, go to college. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't very academically motivated or talented in high school. And

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<v Speaker 1>now that I know, there's all these great jobs out

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<v Speaker 1>there that you don't need a college degree. Four. If

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<v Speaker 1>I could go back in time, if I had a

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<v Speaker 1>time and sheet, I would not have attended college. Liz

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<v Speaker 1>was an English and history major, and while she dreamed

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<v Speaker 1>of a career in writing, she struggled to pass her classes.

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<v Speaker 1>She couldn't stay focused, She'd fall asleep during lectures and

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<v Speaker 1>then have trouble catching up. But she learned one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The summer before my senior year of college, I worked

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<v Speaker 1>on a fruit and vegetable farm on Martha's vineyard, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was awesome and it was sort of my first

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<v Speaker 1>taste of manual labor. And I loved it. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>working outdoors. I you know, loved feeling strong and muscular

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<v Speaker 1>from busting ass all day. It was a minor miracle

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<v Speaker 1>that she made it through college, she tells me. An

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<v Speaker 1>adviser of hers basically dragged her to graduation day. After college,

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<v Speaker 1>she got by on a combination of gardening and landscaping

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and serving coffee. It wasn't going to make her rich,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was content. She had a good life and

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<v Speaker 1>a loving partner. But then I was suddenly it was

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<v Speaker 1>in my late twenties, and I knew I wanted a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was sort of the aha moment of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I need health insurance, I need benefits, I need a

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<v Speaker 1>wage that will support a family. I've always loved sports,

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<v Speaker 1>so I found a physical therapy assistant program and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a two year program and you'd come out

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<v Speaker 1>making forty dollars a year, which sounded like so much

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<v Speaker 1>money to me at the time, and I thought, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something I can do, and I took one anatomy

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<v Speaker 1>and physiology class. She thought maybe this time she'd be

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<v Speaker 1>successful at school. But I ended up trying in my

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<v Speaker 1>car one day after class and realizing that it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that I was immature, it wasn't that I

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<v Speaker 1>was late. Easy is that I'm just not I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't do well in an academic setting, and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how I learned. And I dropped the class and then

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<v Speaker 1>really started to panic. To Liz, there was no way

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<v Speaker 1>forward the life where she starts a family, where she

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<v Speaker 1>has financial stability. She couldn't see that life. She spent

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<v Speaker 1>about a year in this cycle, comfortable but feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a hole and she could be doing more.

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<v Speaker 1>But when she least expected it, a short, white haired

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Dolores would walk into a coffee shop Lizza

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<v Speaker 1>is working at and change everything. There was a regular

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<v Speaker 1>customer who was an electrician, and she was a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was talking to her one day and she

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<v Speaker 1>told me about Oregon tradeswoman and she talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>being an electrician had changed her life and the quality

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<v Speaker 1>quality of life. She was able to provide for her

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<v Speaker 1>two children and her partner. And this was someone telling

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<v Speaker 1>me she um worked in construction and made eighty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year and had health insurance and would receive

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<v Speaker 1>a pension when she retired. And it just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like bells were going off, and I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want, that's what I want to do. Dolores

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<v Speaker 1>brought the change Liz was searching for. After a Google

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<v Speaker 1>search for Oregon Trades Women, Liz was sold a world

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<v Speaker 1>of meaningful work was starting to open up to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Jobs like welder or electrician, or crane operator or wind

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<v Speaker 1>turbine technician, where all of a sudden, jobs that she

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<v Speaker 1>could see herself doing. Shortly after the coffee shop conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>she signed up for the training with Oregon Trades Women.

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<v Speaker 1>I met Liz a few years ago when she went

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<v Speaker 1>through our program. That's Amy Jane Neil, she runs the

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<v Speaker 1>training program at Oregon Trades Women. The mission of Oregon

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<v Speaker 1>Trades Women is to serve women and girls to think

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<v Speaker 1>about careers and skilled trades. And that's their executive director

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly coopcheck. I met Kelly and Amy at their office

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<v Speaker 1>on a busy street in northeast Portland, located half a

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<v Speaker 1>block from my favorite hardware store. When Liz arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon Trades Women, she had a lot to learn. Day

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<v Speaker 1>one was like, let's look at a tape measure. If

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<v Speaker 1>someone says five and three, eight's like, you can find

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<v Speaker 1>five and three. It's on the tape measure really quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and hitting a nail with a hammer and not missing

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<v Speaker 1>the nail. You know, there's lots of no tap tap tapping.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear the tap tap tapping, Like

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<v Speaker 1>swing and hit that nail. But Amy and Kelly recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that for a woman to make it in the trades,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to have training with a variety of tools

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<v Speaker 1>and not just the physical ones they use on the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Men are better equipped for this male dominated industry to succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>So our program sort of bridges that divide. So we

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<v Speaker 1>equip our students, graduates of our program with tools to

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<v Speaker 1>to fit into this male dominated culture and to succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the program, Amy saw Liz transform and she was

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<v Speaker 1>a really different person than that she is now. She's

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<v Speaker 1>got the same heart She's got the same drive, but

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<v Speaker 1>her level of confidence, her understanding of her own value worth,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's ripped now she's strong. After the training, Liz

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<v Speaker 1>was excited to work. The next step for her was

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<v Speaker 1>finding an apprenticeship, only she didn't know what apprenticeship program

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<v Speaker 1>to join. It just so happened that the Cement Mason's Union,

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<v Speaker 1>the tradespeople who make our sidewalks and building floors possible,

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<v Speaker 1>was hosting an apprentice recruitment training, so she thought why

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<v Speaker 1>not and signed up. I spent a week at this

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<v Speaker 1>met Mason's training center where we know built forms and

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<v Speaker 1>we poured concrete, and I was just trying to impress everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I just really, you know, I didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do, but I know I knew that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted everyone to want to hire me. So I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, filling up the wheelbarrow twice as full as

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else and running them back and forth. And at

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<v Speaker 1>one point during the class, I smashed my thumb with

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<v Speaker 1>a sledgehammer and was bleeding everywhere and just kept working

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't notice until I just very casually asked

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<v Speaker 1>for a band it and they saw that my thumb

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<v Speaker 1>was just like black and blue and bleading. Her hard

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<v Speaker 1>work and grit didn't go unnoticed by the leaders of

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<v Speaker 1>the union. At the end of the training, they pulled

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<v Speaker 1>her aside and they offered me a job. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>we want you in our apprenticeship. You can go to

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<v Speaker 1>work Monday if this is what you want. The door

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<v Speaker 1>was finally opening for Liz, a rewarding job with good pay,

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<v Speaker 1>the pieces of the puzzle that she needed to start

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<v Speaker 1>a family. She accepted the job with the Cement Mason Union.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once I had an apprenticeship and it was

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled like Okay, you're going to work Monday, that was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like I'm gonna walk on the job and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna know I'm a fraud. They're gonna know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done anything like this. It's time for Liz

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<v Speaker 1>to go to work. How does she fare on the job?

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<v Speaker 1>Find out after a short break. You're listening to independent

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<v Speaker 1>producer Chris Siegel and the story of Cement Mason Liz

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Liz Nichols. Before the break, she had

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<v Speaker 1>finished cement mason training and was gearing up for her

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<v Speaker 1>first day at work. I get nervous standing around, like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you always want to be doing something and grab something

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<v Speaker 1>clean something. Liz feels right at home amongst the various

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<v Speaker 1>trades people putting together this building. While talking with me,

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<v Speaker 1>she continually scans for jobs to do. I ask her

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<v Speaker 1>questions in between mixing concrete, sweeping and priming the floor. So,

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<v Speaker 1>how does work. Do you see a job and you

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<v Speaker 1>just do it? Or were you like assigned to do

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<v Speaker 1>that room? Um? Today, it's kind of we all know

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<v Speaker 1>what needs to get done, so I thought needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be primed and just jumped on it. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>she leaves me mid sentence to carry a couple fifty

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<v Speaker 1>pound bags of cement over to the mixer. But when

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<v Speaker 1>she first started as an apprentice, work wasn't always this smooth.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this one day we were pouring a section of

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<v Speaker 1>street and there was rebar in the concrete. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>walking on the rebar, you're bouncing on the rebar, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're pouring the concrete, you know, a couple of feet deep,

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<v Speaker 1>and at some point the rebar has covered, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>just walking in the concrete. You can't see where your

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<v Speaker 1>feet are going, and you're balancing on this rebar. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was wearing this backpack vibrator, so we have these,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, vibrators as this long wand and it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you dip it into the concrete. You're consolidating the concrete

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<v Speaker 1>around the reb bar, and it's you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>this fifty pound backpack I'm wearing. Yeah, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>where you think it's going. And I just tripped and

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<v Speaker 1>fell backwards, just wiped out, laying there like a snow

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<v Speaker 1>angel on the concrete. And my foreman came up and

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<v Speaker 1>he put his arm out to pull me up, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just pulled him down into the concrete and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're boling in the concrete and you know, someone else

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<v Speaker 1>has to come and they help us. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>soaked through. And my boss was like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>go home. You're covering to night. So I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>got in my car and I'm just so humiliated. And

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<v Speaker 1>I spent all weekend like they're gonna fire me, They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna think I'm an idiot, this and that. Despite her

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<v Speaker 1>belief that she would soon be out of work, Liz

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<v Speaker 1>was in for a surprise first thing Monday morning when

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<v Speaker 1>she returned to the job site and a guy from

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<v Speaker 1>another crew came up and said, hey, I heard your

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<v Speaker 1>fall on the concrete and proceeded to tell me his

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<v Speaker 1>first falling in the concrete story. And then I realized

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<v Speaker 1>it was this write of passage. As an apprentice, she

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<v Speaker 1>was the new person on the job, but on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, she'd be on construction sites where she'd meet

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<v Speaker 1>guys who had never worked with a woman. She received

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention. I definitely felt more like I

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<v Speaker 1>was under an X ray, like just walking across the

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<v Speaker 1>job site and feeling like every single person is staring

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Sometimes it just makes me feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a unicorn or and some like mythological creature and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that she heard while at work. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me do that for you. Hey, you look good when

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing that. What does your husband think of you

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<v Speaker 1>doing this work? Oh? I heard about you. I would

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<v Speaker 1>never let my wife do this. Oh I'm joking. I'm joking. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can take a joke. I had a foreman once.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh tell me, like, sure, you can handle this work now,

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<v Speaker 1>but your body is going to break down faster than

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<v Speaker 1>our bodies because you don't have testosterone. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the science, like women live longer than men,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just like we're is he even pulling

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<v Speaker 1>that out of So we got into it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got into a fight about that one. What she

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<v Speaker 1>could use in those type situations is support from some

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys on the crew. The next day, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my corkers came up to me and said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what he said to you yesterday. That wasn't right.

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<v Speaker 1>None of us feel that way. And when I went

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<v Speaker 1>home that day, I just kept thinking, why didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>tell him? Why in the moment, why didn't you stand

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<v Speaker 1>up and say that if you want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>my team. Be on my team. Hopefully the next time

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<v Speaker 1>he witnesses something like that, he'll feel more comfortable saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not right. She pushed back against this foreman. But

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<v Speaker 1>Liz doesn't always feel like she can speak her mind.

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<v Speaker 1>If you let things roll off your shoulders, people like

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<v Speaker 1>you more like the crew accepts you. She's cool. Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she's cool out here that time. Oh she's cool. You

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<v Speaker 1>can you can say stuff in front of Liz, and

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<v Speaker 1>it leads to this awkward place where I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be accepted and I want to fit in and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to feel like one of the crew. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you draw the line of like, actually, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't say that to me. You can't just pass it

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<v Speaker 1>off as a joke. Experiences like these they touched Liz

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<v Speaker 1>now more than ever after a recent development in her life,

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<v Speaker 1>her dream of having a baby, well, she's accomplished that.

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<v Speaker 1>She gave birth to her son, Shamus nichols Kirk near

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<v Speaker 1>the end of her three year apprenticeship. M my baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was gonna have a daughter, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was going to raise this little tomboy hellion,

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized if I had a daughter, I would

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<v Speaker 1>dress her, you know, I address her in blue, I

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<v Speaker 1>address her and green. I would very proudly have like

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<v Speaker 1>this gender neutral girl and try and teach her to

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<v Speaker 1>be an empowered woman. And and I had a son.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a son who she knows will eventually grow

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<v Speaker 1>up to be a man. She doesn't have the manufacturers

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<v Speaker 1>instructions on how to raise a sensitive, thoughtful son, so

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<v Speaker 1>she looks back to her experience on the construction site

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<v Speaker 1>for ideas. I'm going to try and teach him to

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<v Speaker 1>speak out if he sees something that makes him uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>to not be um the guy who comes up to

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<v Speaker 1>me the day after something happens and says he's sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's not right. I want Shamus to

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<v Speaker 1>be the type of person who, in the moment says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's not right. As Shamus grows up, she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to teach him the value of hard work. I really

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<v Speaker 1>want him to it's crying right now. Uh. I want

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<v Speaker 1>him to know that my job is hard but satisfying,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I can provide the life that I'm providing

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<v Speaker 1>for him through that hard work. There was an occasion

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<v Speaker 1>for Liz where her two lives, her life as a

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<v Speaker 1>worker and her life as a mother, came together. She

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<v Speaker 1>was at the end of her apprenticeship and needed to

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<v Speaker 1>take a test to graduate and become a journeyman cement mason.

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<v Speaker 1>I took it this July and I was still on

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<v Speaker 1>maternity leave, so I actually to bring Shamus with me

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<v Speaker 1>to the hall, and the apprentice instructor and all of

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<v Speaker 1>the office guys babysat for me while I was taking

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<v Speaker 1>the exam. So I was building forms and pouring concrete

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<v Speaker 1>and finishing, and then you know, all these guys were

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<v Speaker 1>just mooning over my baby Liz. Past the exam. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a door that they have all the new journeyman's signed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to hold Sheamus while I was signing

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<v Speaker 1>the door, and it was this wonderful, full circle moment

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<v Speaker 1>of I got into this trade because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have a baby one day and to journey out holding

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<v Speaker 1>my child. That this job and this you know, living

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<v Speaker 1>wage made possible. It was just a really cool moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Liz Nichols, a journeyman cement mason and mother, living

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<v Speaker 1>and working in Portland, Oregon. That was independent producer Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Siegel with the story of Cement Mason, Liz Nichols, and

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