1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: H h. 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: H h. I'm Chad. By the way, that's the queen 3 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: of Extreme Francine. I couldn't hear her and she can't 4 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: see me. We're like a perfect like Helen Teller. 5 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Duo. Oh god, now that's so terrible. Din't say you 6 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: didn't stay done it? You know what I think happened? Uh? 7 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: I had to get a separate place for my what's 8 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: this called set up my computer? 9 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Uh? 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Hard? No, what's it called? Not a PC? Not a 11 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: not I mean not a what was it desktop? Desktop? Say? 12 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: This is ella savvy I am. Because I wanted to 13 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: stream poker on Twitch, so we had to buy a 14 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: doppel Is that what that's called. We had to buy 15 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: a piece to add to uh, you know, so they 16 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: can see where I live because you know, gambling is 17 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: only legal in certain states or whatever. And I was 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: able to stream last night, which was a success. It 19 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: was lots of fun and great and all that stuff. 20 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: But for some reason, it lagged me out of everything. 21 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: So like when I tried to get into my email 22 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: like it's as we need your password, I was like, 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: I forget it. I'm trying all these passwords and it 24 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: kicked me out of my Twitch you can't. It kicked 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: me out of all my accounts and it messed with 26 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: my microphone. 27 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: That was quite the technical infrastructure you had to tackle 28 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: right before we started. But I'm gonna give you credit. 29 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: You did a great job. I can hear you crystal clear. 30 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: I was going deaf while you were doing it because 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: it was it was like shocking me in my ears. 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: I had to put my headphones like this. But you 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: didn't give yourself a hand, all. 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Right, I will thank you. Yeah. You know, Hubbs is 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: the tech wizard and he's not here and I'm just alone. 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to click different buttons and unplug 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: things and plug them back in. And I think I 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: did it correctly. 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: So so does this poker? Does this open up a 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: new world for you? Now that you have this thing 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: to track your gambling? 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: It opens up a new world on Twitch? Because I 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: was kind of looking for something else to do on there, 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, so I do an aaw 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: watch along. I answer questions all the time like it's 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: just chatting whatever. I took them poolside. They seem to 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: have liked that a lot, but I was. 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: Like, I why, I can't imagine why. 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: And then I tried gaming, you know, and that's okay. 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: And I said, well, I play poker anyway, and I 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: really enjoy it. Why don't I just throw it on 52 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: twitch and see if it sticks? And I did a 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: tournament last night and I actually finished in the money, 54 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: which was fun. But I was on there for like 55 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: three and a half hours, and you know, I have 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: to I think I have to play earlier in the 57 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: day because that's a long stretch for me. But it 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: was good and I enjoy it, and I'm gonna venture 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: out and try that from now on, so it's something 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: to add to what I do. 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: I saw your tweet and I was like, this is 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: like past bedtime here now. 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I was sitting. I was literally yawning, and I'm like, 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. It's not you, it's me. It's just 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: and I was I wanted something to drink, but I 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to leave. You know, I wasn't prepared. I 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't bring anything with me. I brought like two SIPs 68 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: of a ginger ale and that did not last for 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: three and a half hours. So I was parched. I 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: was hungry, which it didn't let me snack, which was 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: good because sometimes I'll go and I'll get a little 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: snacky poo late, and that's not good. So I did 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: snack last night, but I was exhausted. I was tired. 74 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: Did you see cards in your head all night? Like 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: numbers and cards? 76 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: Yew? I just you know. I My problem is I 77 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: just need to slow it down because early on I 78 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: had pocketjacks and the other guy I thought was just 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: being a turd and he was raising and I'm like, oh, 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: he's probably got ace king he's got nothing. And here 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: he caught something like on the turn or the river, 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: and if you don't know what this is, look it up. 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: But Chad looks like he's very confused. 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: But I don't know what the hell you're talking about. 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Well, we put our cards over. I was in the lead, 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: and then the guy caught something as the cards flipped, 87 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: and so I lost and I had to shoot another bullet, 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: which means I had to pay another ten dollars, so 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: I actually bet twenty and one back thirteen and change. 90 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: So I took a six dollars and changed loss. But 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: it was for twitch, so it was good and it's 92 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: building my hours up and hopefully I'll gain some new 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: poker people that didn't know me from wrestling, so I 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just trying stuff, you know me. I 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: just try until it works. 96 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: And then like two years you'll be on the celebrity 97 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: Poker Toy battling, you know, battling like you know, like 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: NFL greats and like you know, like former like singers 99 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and stuff. And Francine sitting there with her poker face. 100 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: I wish we get your poker face. Let me see 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: a poker face. 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: Well, you don't need a poker face online. 103 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: I just want to see your poker face. You have one. 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like this is it gonna call? Oh my god, 105 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: do I have anything? Oh my god? 106 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 2: I have all the tails right on my face. 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: Being like I'm telling you, people wear like sunglasses, they 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: have a hoodie over them so you can't see anything. 109 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: And it's just like, I don't know. I get very 110 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: nervous when I play, and I need to just control 111 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: myself and calm down because I'm a decent play I know, 112 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: I wear a mask. I'm a decent enough player. I 113 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: know the rules and stuff. But I'm over zealous sometimes, 114 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: so I just need to slow it down a little bit. Yeah, 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: but I do enjoy it. So last night was a 116 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: lot of fun, and I think the people watching had 117 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: fun too, And I was I dropped some F bombs 118 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: and I know and I didn't mean to, and I 119 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: just kept going sorry, sorry, it was just not me. 120 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: But you tend to curse when you when you get 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: a bad beat sometimes. 122 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: So was it just a straight curse or combination word? 123 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 2: Was it like I used? 124 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: I used son of a bitch a lot. Yeah, I 125 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: was using that one a lot. I think I dropped 126 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: the F bomb two or three times, but I apologized 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: and everybody was laughing at me. So overall a great success. 128 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: Do you so, do you like completely, like hide cursing 129 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: from your kids as much as you can? Oh? 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. 131 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: We talked about it before. But you know, just like 132 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: they if they say like any do they know like 133 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: X word is like a trigger semi curse word and 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: they stay away from it. 135 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't curse. But once in a while, these 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: YouTube videos for kids will have cursing in it, and 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I'll go whoa hey, and they'll go sorry. They freak 138 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: out on me. Like if I'm doing something in another 139 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: room and I say ship or something, I'll hear a 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: swear word. Swear word and I'll go sorry and don't 141 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: say that. Mom. I know that, I'm so sorry, but 142 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: like you hardly hear. Like we never say f in 143 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: front of the kids. It's we try not to, you know. 144 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I try not to curse at all in front of them. 145 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: And that's the way to be. I agree, and I'm 146 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. Uh. Brie was watching something that the 147 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 2: table the other day and it said, like, what the hell, 148 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: and I go, what are you watching? And she goes, 149 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I was looking off of it. 151 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: Then. 152 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what this is. But uh, I'm 153 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: just flabbergasted by the amount of cursing in these videos 154 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: that are aimed at kids. Yeah, and they should not 155 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: be on YouTube in my opinion. Maybe I'm just apprude, 156 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: but for you know, if you have younger children and 157 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: these are the kids who are clicking these links, they 158 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: why do they have to drop an F bomb or 159 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: say a curse word at all? It just I don't 160 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: get it. 161 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: It's an interesting little thing though, because I've seen it 162 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: more like penetrate, not just these kids videos and YouTube videos, 163 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: but journalism headlines, you know, more free to speak it 164 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: on TV and It's one of those things where it's 165 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: like these are still taboo words, and especially if you 166 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: read it in an article and then you just like this, 167 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: if it's an opinion piece and the journalist is cursing 168 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: in F bombs, I think it kind of takes away 169 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: the credibility of the piece because if you're needing an 170 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: easier word, maybe getting a little more creative and think 171 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: of something that could fill in the blank. 172 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny too because like a lot of 173 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: wrestlers who use profanity, I've heard time and time again 174 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: people say, well, they're only using it to get cheap heat. 175 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: They only curse to get cheap heat, you know. And 176 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: sometimes it is appropriate and other times it's overkill. So 177 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: you got to pace yourself. 178 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've had that conversation with Shane, and 179 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: he's the one who i'd put at the top of 180 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: my head of work. But he and I have had 181 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: that same discussion of certain places it doesn't belong. It's 182 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: different in the entertainment realm. You read a book and 183 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: there's an F bomb, it's like, all right, it's part 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: of the story. You're watching a movie, there's an F 185 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: bomb that's part of the story wrestling. Wrestling could be real, 186 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: So there's part of the story. You drop an F 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: bomb and makes it that much more, you know, like impactful. 188 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: But you're just reading a story, you know, especially like 189 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: you know they're in the the Trump presidency. You just 190 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: see journalists dropping F bombs and you know, ship and this, 191 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: and then it's like that's easy way out of writing 192 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: an article or writing a piece. And I just I 193 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: don't like, I personally don't like to read that stuff. 194 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: Not to say it's not just with him, it's with everybody, 195 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: but I just I hate that person. 196 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just I look back on 197 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: some of the promos that I did, and I'm like, oh, 198 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: I shouldn't. 199 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: If they if they removed the word bitch from television, 200 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: for you, you would have like two words that I'm joking. 201 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm joking. 202 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: I'm joking. I was talking with somebody this week and 203 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: we were we were discussing a few weeks ago, how 204 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: you and I were saying, you know, wouldn't it be 205 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: funny if WWE bought Disney or Disney bought w WE 206 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: bean WWE at Hollywood Studios. Well, this week they had 207 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,479 Speaker 2: a shitload of cuts. 208 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I saw now, wasn't it the 209 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: was it the iconics or was that the prior one? 210 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: That was the prior one. They did less of the 211 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: talent releases this time, and more of the corporate releases 212 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: this time, and just straight up virons and they clean house. 213 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Wow, So numbers must be really bad, because oh. 214 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: Numbers are good. They're keeping them up. They just felt 215 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: some of the positions were redundant. 216 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: I mean money wise, because it's I mean usually they 217 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: do these budget cuts every year and they get rid 218 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: of a whole lot of people every year, and I 219 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: honestly feel like coronavirus just cut into their budget terribly. 220 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 221 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh, you know, personal heat between the 222 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: workers and like the the higher ups. Like somebody said 223 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: that Kevin Dunn hated the one iconic Billy Kay and 224 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: I'm just like she was so over. Like that group 225 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: to me was like so over. What was it? Personal beef? 226 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: Like what is getting in the way. It just I 227 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't get it. I can understand money wise, 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: but when you go after like people that are really 229 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: good for the company, hard working, getting over doing their 230 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: job well, and then you just get rid of them. 231 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: That's why I always said anyone is replaceable. Yeah, you know, 232 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: they just don't care. So I don't know. 233 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: And the iconics, I mean, I gotta tell you, probably 234 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: not replaceable immediately, because where are you gonna find two 235 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Australian Wells that are a team together that managed to 236 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: have their unique ability to get heat and then become 237 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: very love But they're from Australia. You would think that 238 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: that's a box that's not gonna come along every five minutes. 239 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: Two Australian girls that you could pair together like that. 240 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: They'll they'll just give that gimmick to someone else. When 241 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: we had Jazz on you remember what she said, she 242 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: came up with a tremendous storyline and they loved it 243 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: and gave to someone else and it was her idea. 244 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: And it's like, are you kidding me? Like I just 245 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It just makes me 246 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: happy that I'm not involved in that world anymore because 247 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: it's so frustrating, Like I could just imagine those poor 248 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: girls and the guys is just frustration. 249 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like the same business when you watch 250 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: it on television anymore. And I just got done watching 251 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: what we're gonna watch for our watch long. I watched 252 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: the lead up, you know, the show going into the match, 253 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: and it just does an uneasy w being separately and 254 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: it's all cool entity. It just doesn't look like you're 255 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: watching the same thing anymore. 256 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't watch, so I'm not. I'm 257 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: always told you I'm not missing anything. I'm just not. 258 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: It makes me sad though, because I was such a 259 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: huge fan back in the day and now I could 260 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: care less and I couldn't care less rather is the expression, 261 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: but it's it's terrible. It's terrible to feel that way. 262 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: And I used to get excited for wrestling. I used 263 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: to I used to run to my girlfriend's house to 264 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: watch raw because I didn't have cable. Nine o'clock at night, 265 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: I would run the street watched her, you know, to 266 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: watch an hour's worth of wrestling because I couldn't see 267 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: it on mye And that. 268 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: Was technically during a down period. 269 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: Well for me, that was that was like my that 270 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: was my Monday was complete. I just had to have 271 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: that that hour wrestling and I was all week. It 272 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: was a build up. I looked forward to the next 273 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: that's so awesome. Yeah, and that's not that's not here anymore, 274 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Like there's I don't crave it anymore, you know. 275 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: And that to me doing that New Generation era podcast 276 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: that I do, you know, it's it's basically we're talking 277 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: about shows that were an hour and how much they 278 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: crammed into that hour. Never never a loss for a minute, 279 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: but to see how stuff developed, see how it played out, 280 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: you couldn't miss it because it was that one hour 281 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: a week that you had to get in and locked in. 282 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: And and it's like, I'm not saying go back to 283 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: an hour. You guys had an hour, and the you 284 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: know it did you know the for the most part, 285 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: right almost all up until TNN, right, it was. 286 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: No, we had an hour. We had an hour. 287 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: They didn't extend. No, you got an hour TV, and 288 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: look how much you guys got done. And that to 289 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: me is the beauty of it. And that's why I said, 290 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: it's not the same kind of business. When you put 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: on a wrestling show, it just doesn't and sports entertainment whatever, 292 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: it just it doesn't feel the same. 293 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Also, I feel like when you extend it to two hours, 294 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: three hours, whatever it is, it's a lot of filler. 295 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff that fans are going to 296 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, go make a sandwich, go get 297 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: a drink because they don't care about it. It's a 298 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: lot of talking, unnecessary talking. It doesn't mean as much anymore, 299 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: and it just it just bothers me because I want 300 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: to love it. I want to. I want to have 301 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: my DVR loaded and sit down on a Saturday afternoon 302 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: and want to watch it. But I don't. Yeah, I 303 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: just don't. And that again, it's nothing against the workers. 304 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: The workers are tremendous and they can do some great things. 305 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: It's just the product itself that turns me off right now. 306 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever be a huge fan again. 307 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: I really don't. Plus I'm older, there's different things going 308 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: on in my life, you know what I mean. Like 309 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: some people say, oh, I've grown out of wrestling or whatever, 310 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: and some people have been lifelong wrestling fans and they're 311 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: struggling with today's product. You know, when I do the 312 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: watch alongs, there's one guy in there who is absolutely 313 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: every week punked. I think it's Sam. I think his 314 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: name is Sam. He's a twenty year old kid, absolutely 315 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: loves the product. And while the chat's going on. Everybody's 316 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: asking me questions about eastw Sam always comments about what's 317 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: happening on AW every single week, and I'm just like, 318 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Sam's pumped, He's ready to go. He loves this stuff. 319 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: He's like, I just love wrestling, and I wish I 320 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: was there and I used to be there like twenty 321 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: something years ago, but I'm not there now. 322 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: So it's crazy. It's just crazy. I mean, you know, 323 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: and that's you from studying the business, me as a 324 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: fan and having worked in production and around the guys, 325 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: I feel the same way. So I think it's just 326 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: the era and that's it. The era is done. But 327 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: here's the other side of it. This is better for 328 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: you in the long run because people are going to 329 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: be clamoring to see the older stars, and I think 330 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 2: that the vintage stuff is what is really going to 331 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: carry the history of wrestling now. Is anything basically before 332 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: twenty ten is really now. I think is going to 333 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 2: be more in demands of the conventions, and from what 334 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: I've seen about the conventions that have happened, the one 335 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: you went to and there was another one since people 336 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: are coming back. 337 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they are. 338 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: Well, people want to get out, but I think that 339 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: the product is causing people to want to go see 340 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: the older stars too. 341 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: That could be it. I still think everybody has cabin 342 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: fever and they just want to get the hell out 343 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: of it else, you know. But yeah, I I don't know. 344 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: It's it's you either love it right now or you don't. 345 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: There's really no middle ground. You know, You're either all 346 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: in or you're just you're just changing the channel. And 347 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: most people are changing the channel these days. So I 348 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: think it'll be better once uh, you know, the fans 349 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: start to come back to these shows and there's live 350 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: audiences again, and especially for the workers, like we've said 351 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: it time and time again, it's so hard to work 352 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: in an empty arena, you know, And and I tip 353 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: my hat to them, especially if you're a heel working 354 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: off no energy whatsoever. So I feel like, at least 355 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: for the workers, momentum will go up because the crowds 356 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: are coming back. So that's a good thing. 357 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus, they're going to go house show touring again. Wow, 358 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 2: that's like house show business was down in the pits 359 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: before coronavirus and now it's like a twenty five city 360 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: tour they announced, And I gotta be honest with you, 361 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: that's all they should announce. They shouldn't pick up all 362 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: those little shows because that's what drove the business model down. 363 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 2: Keep them in the big areas well. 364 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're happy with, you know, the paychecks that 365 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: they're going to get, because their pay is going to 366 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: go up. But it's just what a weird, what a 367 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: weird year it's been. 368 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Do you think buff 369 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: Bagwell was wearing his mask when he got pulled over 370 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: the other day? 371 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: I think buff Bagwell was wearing it over his eyes 372 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: because this guy great segue, by the way. 373 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me do my buff thing. 374 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh there you go. Well, look and you got 375 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: the high and the glasses you are. That's right, a 376 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: dead ringer for mister Bagwell. Former w W WCW star 377 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Marcus buff Bagwell arrested on more than ten charges. 378 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: Ten that's a lot. 379 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: That's a that's like, that's like a year's worth of rest. 380 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: Let's what we call, let's what we call in my neighborhood, 381 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: a shitload. 382 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: So buff is now fifty one years old, was involved 383 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: in another car crash. I suppose. Uh. And they're saying, 384 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: let me see, was this When did this happen? 385 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 2: This was like, uh, we're recording this Friday. I think 386 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: this was Monday or Tuesday. This dropped. 387 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So here are the charges. Misdemeanor driving under the 388 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: influence of drugs, misdemeanor open container violation for misdemeanor, charges 389 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: of hid and run, misdemeanor speeding, misdemeanor failing to yield 390 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: when entering an intersection, misdemeanor giving false name or address 391 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: of birthday to law enforcement officer. 392 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: Three Scotty Riggs, how you doing no? 393 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: I love Scotty Riggs. Three charges of following too closely 394 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: and a misdemeanor reckless driving and a misdemeanor driving with 395 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: a gore or median or emergency lane, misdemeanor duty upon 396 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: striking a fixed object, misdemeanor driving on the wrong side 397 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: of the roadway, and a misdemeanor licensed to be carried 398 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: and exhibited on demand, which means he didn't he didn't 399 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: have his license correct that. 400 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's way too inside lingo for me. 401 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: Exhibited on demand. I would think he'd get it or 402 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: some sort. 403 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Of papers, whether it was licensed registration. 404 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: Okay, so that equals ten goodness gracious. It says he 405 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: was bonded out of jail on that Saturday after getting 406 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: booked at two of five the same day. He was 407 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: out at nine point fifteen, So in the morning, nine 408 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: fifteen at night. I'm sorry. The car crash was in August, 409 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: by the. 410 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: Way, Oh okay, got it. 411 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: That was But this one I think he did. He 412 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: hit four different cars. What is the deal with this? 413 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: Somebody said he was on prescription drugs at the time. 414 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: Well, I could see it. 415 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: That's troublesome. 416 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: That is very troublesome. I mean he looks. I mean 417 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: no offense to Buff love. Buff had many a laugh 418 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: at Buff. He looks, he looks terrible. 419 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: He looks different his picture. When I saw his picture, 420 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: I didn't even think it was him. I was like, 421 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: do they have the wrong picture? Up didn't even look 422 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: like him to me. 423 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: But carned me and John very badly at a at 424 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: a show. Oh do tell the story, and ended the 425 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: relationship with Buff. He just told Shenanigan's about hotel rooms 426 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: and flights and transportation after everything was already taken care of. 427 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: Oh so being a diva. 428 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: Last minute, no, the last minute it was, you know, 429 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: he had to fly his girlfriend with him. We would 430 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: that was not a part of the deal. He needed 431 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: he needed the flight paid for. Then he needed to 432 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 2: upgrade his room. He needed the room paid for. And 433 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: it was like, you know, buff, like you were so cool, 434 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: literally up until it was time to say goodbye. You 435 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: could have said this two hours ago. We could have 436 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 2: worked on it or something like that. 437 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: Did you not fulfill his needs? 438 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: What do you think? 439 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 440 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: We had to take care of because there was still 441 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: another booking to go to. 442 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: Ever see, I would have said, no, you're done. It 443 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: was about flying your girlfriend in. 444 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: We gave I think we know we gave him half. 445 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: In the meantime, how about flying my family and and 446 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: putting us up at Walt Disney World. 447 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: The whole thing was go in. He was supposed to 448 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: go in and out same day. Okay, he's gonna be 449 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: going late late night flight flight back to Georgia. How 450 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: did you know did a very convincing story about and 451 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: I want to stay in the hotel room by himself. 452 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: You know has a fear about that because of things 453 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 2: that have happened to the boys. Blah blah blah. All right, 454 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: we get it. Changed the flight brought the girlfriend, needed 455 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: the girlfriend's flight paid for, then had to upgrade his room, 456 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: had to get the upgrade paid for. So we had 457 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: to meet him in the middle kind of thing, and 458 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: did this as we were saying goodbye to go meet 459 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: him at the next booking that we had that night. 460 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeh, didn't like it. 461 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: Didn't like it. 462 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: No, and stuff like that will not get you booked. 463 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: I haven't worked with him since, no, I know. And 464 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: he looked great. He was buff. That was in twenty fifteen, 465 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Yeah, great. He was ripped. He was painting 466 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: on his hair. He looked like buff painted on his 467 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: It was. It was hot as balls was August. He 468 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: kept on wiping the brow, checking the hair, making sure 469 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: the hat was on it. He was. He still looked 470 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: exactly like buff. That guy in that picture. 471 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: Troublesome. It makes me sad to see, like all these 472 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: people who are just falling apart, you know it just 473 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know him. I don't know him. I 474 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: might have met him once, you know, but I don't. 475 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: I don't know him well at all. But just you know, 476 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: the brotherhood of the wrestling world. It just makes you 477 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: sad to see, like when people do that to themselves, 478 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: so it's it's sad to uh to read articles like that. 479 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 480 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's interesting with him though, And I think, 481 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: especially in my case in dealing with him, I just 482 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: feel like I'm one in the many that he's probably 483 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: done that too. Oh yeah, and burn bridges across the way, 484 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 2: so who wants to book him anymore? And then he 485 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 2: was because he was clean, presumably he had just had 486 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: shoulder surgery. I mean again, he looked great. He looked 487 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: like how he did on TV in the nineties. He 488 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: looked awesome, and that was only five or six years ago. Yeah, 489 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: and I think in those last five or six years 490 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: he's just burned bridges and he's just kind of got 491 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: a bad reputation. And he still thinks it's nWo flying 492 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: first class everywhere he goes, and oh, I'm serious, I 493 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: really think that. And when that stopped and people didn't, 494 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: he just kind of crumbled. He fell apart. There's a 495 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: ton of interviews. I know you're gonna be doing a 496 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: Hannibal interview. He did an interview with Hannibal that I 497 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: think was the first little crack in the armor, exposing 498 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: what's going on? He sounds like he's blasted out of 499 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: his brains. 500 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: I you know, I honestly feel like a lot of 501 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: the boys can't let go. Yeah, they think it's still 502 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: their heyday, and you know, like we're not on TV anymore. 503 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: We're not in our twenties and early thirties. You know, 504 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: we're in our late forties, fifties. Some of them are 505 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: in their sixties. But they still feel like they need 506 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: to live that rock star lifestyle. And it's hard because 507 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: when this is all you've ever done with your life, 508 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to go to like something normal and get 509 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: like a normal job. And it burns me up when 510 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: fans are like, oh he works at Target. Now, Oh 511 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: he's a garbage man. Oh he you know, he does 512 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: something other than wrestling, like beneath them and I always say, 513 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: what is wrong with that? They're providing for their family, 514 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: They're working. It's a job, Like stop, you know, what 515 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: is your job? What do you do for a living? 516 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: That's so glorious that you have to make fun of 517 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: somebody for working at a target or being a sanitation worker. 518 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Anybody who has a job providing money for themselves and 519 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: their family is okay in my book. You know, I 520 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: feel like there's so much pressure to just maintain that, 521 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: and now it's considered like a fantasy anymore, because we're 522 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: not the people that we were twenty years ago, just 523 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: an image of them. Some of us are still hanging 524 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: on try to stay relevant. But with me, like I 525 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: found a common ground. I know I'm not the Francine 526 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: of twenty years ago. I get that, and I'm okay 527 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: with that, you know. And I do what I can 528 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: do because I'm having fun with it and it is 529 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: a job and I do make an income from it. 530 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: But I don't go out there, you know, thinking I'm 531 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: still the shit from nineteen ninety six. I know, I'm 532 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: forty nine years old. I'm a mother of two. You know. 533 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: My main priority in life is being a mother to 534 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: my children and taking care of my family. That's where 535 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: my mindset is at. The wrestling falls a very distant 536 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: second for right. And I do it because it's fun 537 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: and it does help with bills. But I have learned 538 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: to let go of that whole. You know, Oh, she's 539 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: the Queen of ature. No, I'm just the mom, you know, 540 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm just the mom hanging out and if people want 541 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: to meet me, that's a bonus. But these guys go 542 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: to these signings and still demand this, that and the 543 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: other thing, and it's like we're past our prime. Like 544 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say, And I'm not 545 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: trying to really do I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, 546 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: but you have to look at it in real time 547 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: and not get into a time machine and pretend it's 548 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: twenty thirty years ago. Can't look at it that way. 549 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 1: That's not the way I look at it. And I 550 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: feel like people would live a better life if they 551 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: could just separate that in their minds, you know what 552 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean. And I know people have demons, and I'm 553 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: blessed that I never fell down that rabbit hole with 554 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: like drugs and alcohol and stuff like that. It's terrible. 555 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: Addiction is a terrible thing, but a lot of these 556 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: guys that's all they know. And it's like that movie 557 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: The Wrestler when you see him sitting there and one 558 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: or two people come to the table and it's just 559 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: him looking around. That broke my heart. Yeah, that was 560 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: so hard to watch, and I told myself, I will 561 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: never get to that stage. And it's it's it's just 562 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: sad because a lot of guys are there. 563 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let go. If you go back to when 564 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: The Wrestler came out two thousand and six issue or 565 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: something or two and whenever, it was the conventions that 566 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: were about ten years prior to that movie coming out, 567 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: is exactly what that movie looked like. By that point. 568 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: It evolved a little bit. That was a little more 569 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: of a dramatic take. But if you went back to 570 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: looking at the guys that were at the audio not 571 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: even conventions, they were more just card shows, and you'd 572 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: see them, Yeah, you'd see the older guys and you'd 573 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: see they're walking with Caine, they got the prosthetic leg, 574 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: they got this, but they're the old old timers. That's 575 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: what that movie portrayed. But what it also portrayed was 576 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: exactly what you're talking about. The guys that he looked 577 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: how he looked in that movie, The Long Hair, the Tan. 578 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: He was still doing this and he's walking through his job. 579 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: He's walking through the what are you the meat department 580 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: and he comes to like he was walking through the entrance. 581 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: I thought it was so well done and give you 582 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: a real look into real life that it kind of 583 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: hit home, I'm sure for more people in your generation 584 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: and a little bit before you and your generation, not 585 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: the old old timers that were old timers when you 586 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: broke in. Those are the guys that I think they 587 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: were kind of portraying in that one, you know, autograph 588 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 2: show scene. 589 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's heartbreaking to watch, you know. And 590 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: it might be different for me because I am a 591 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: female in the business, and you know, I have other 592 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: things going on, and it wasn't my lifelong dream to 593 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: be in professional wrestling, So it's you know, I'm not 594 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: at the same level as the other guys with the 595 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: mentality of the business. Right. I always knew there was 596 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: something more for me in life than just wrestling, and 597 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: that was to have a family. And you know, for me, 598 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: like if I never did another convention again, I'd be okay, 599 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't kill me. I do enjoy I do enjoy 600 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: meeting fans and stuff. But like I tell you all 601 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: the time, I pick and choose where I want to go. 602 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: My time with my family is way more important and 603 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to leave the house for a couple 604 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Like it's just and I don't mean to 605 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: sound like a dick about it. But that's just where 606 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm at. And people want to pay, that's great. And 607 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: if they don't want to pay, understood, I'll stay home 608 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: and I'll enjoy my time with my family. That's where 609 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm at. 610 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: I love that. I personally love that because that's the 611 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: priorities of life, and that's that's you know, it really 612 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: for me to hear that from you, I love to 613 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: hear it. It's like it's it's a real heartwarming thing. 614 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: But I remember just going back to real jobs. Let 615 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: me ask you this, if you if you were in 616 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: a position where you had to work, right, you had 617 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: to work, but you still had yourself out there. You're 618 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: still doing conventions, are you know shot in an Indian 619 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: you know, just appearing, not not wrestling, but appearing. Yes, 620 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: would you hide but you did from your job, your job? 621 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: Would you, like I'm saying, if you had a job, 622 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: would you try to hide the wrestling side of your life? 623 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: You know I've said this before, like I never talk 624 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: about what I used to do unless it's necessary. When 625 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: I started with a chiropractor, I had to tell them 626 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: what I did because I was so messed up. And 627 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, oh I fell down the stairs. 628 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought you were a crash dummy before you. 629 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: There were so much wrong with me, so I had 630 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: There's certain things that I had to tell certain people. 631 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: But like I told you countless a number of times 632 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: when my children were in school and I volunteered and 633 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I practically lived at the school, I never once mentioned 634 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: what I did. You never know what that other person 635 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: is thinking, you know. And I don't like when people 636 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: look at me funny or judge me for what I've 637 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: done in the pan, Like I would probably just keep 638 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: my mouth shut, and if somebody had mentioned it they 639 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: recognized me, then you're like, because there's. 640 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: That one guy who's just like this at you, staring. 641 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: You know. I'm not one to say just say it. 642 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: I just keep it under wraps, and if it came up, 643 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: it came up. But I'm blessed because you know, I 644 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: don't have to go and get a desk job or 645 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: work retail or anything like that. I'm married to a 646 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: man who has a very very good career, and I 647 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: work because I like to help and I like things 648 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: for myself, and I don't want to go to my 649 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: husband and say, hey, can I have fifty dollars because 650 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: I want to buy some makeup or can I have 651 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: this because I want to dress? No, I want to 652 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: work and I want to buy it myself. And I 653 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: don't want to bother anybody. You know, I want to 654 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: earn my own money. But I do. You know, Like 655 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: this year that just passed, I gave a considerable amount 656 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: of money towards Disney, and I was proud of that 657 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: because I worked hard for it and I was able 658 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: to pay and get us a nice trip. And that's 659 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: what I like to do. I like to contribute, and 660 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: I do it when I can. But I'm sorry, I'm 661 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: not going to leave my house for some shitty offer. 662 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: It's not happened. And a lot of guys have to 663 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: do that because this is their bread and butter. You know, 664 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: I understand not everyone can hold out for the number 665 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: that they want because they have to pay their bills. 666 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: I get it. That's why I'm lucky enough to be 667 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: in a position where I can hold out and if 668 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to go, I just simply don't go. 669 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: They turn it down. They might not get something to 670 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: work that weekend. 671 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: No, and then what do they do? You know that 672 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: those are the men who have nothing to fall back. 673 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: One who didn't you know, didn't save their money. They 674 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: need to eat, they need to pay pills. I understand that, 675 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, But they're also part of the group that 676 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: can't let go and who feel like, I'm not going 677 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: to get a job. They don't want to. I don't know. 678 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: So I've heard some guys say that's beneath me. I 679 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: was on. Yeah, I was that, and I'm just like, oh, 680 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, And if that's the mentality, then so be it. 681 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: If you like hustling and getting out there every weekend. 682 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: Because some of the boys are addicted. It's like a drug. 683 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: They're addicted to the business, you know what I mean. 684 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: But are you addicted to these shit paydays that you're 685 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: getting and they can't help it. You might get an 686 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: offer for two fifty one weekend and then twelve fifty 687 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: the next weekend. It's it's crazy how it fluctuates. Yeah, 688 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: and some of these guys they don't they don't have 689 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: a choice to turn it down. They have to go. 690 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: I understand that, but I just for me, it's that's 691 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: not what I that's not what I want to do. 692 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: So I remember, you know, gosh, fifteen years ago whatever 693 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 2: it was, and it was very public at the time, 694 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: and it was around the time I was going to 695 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: shows with them. But when PJ was working for the 696 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: Olive Garden or he had, I don't know how that 697 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: got out. Somebody saw him working for Olive Garden and 698 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 2: it was, oh, why he works in a restaurant? Actually 699 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: know when I knew him, he worked as he worked 700 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: for Target, Okay, and he quit that job because somebody 701 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: recognized him. But it's the thing about Olive Garden that 702 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 2: was a big slap in the face and why I 703 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: lose a lot of respect for fans that say these 704 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 2: kinds of things. He wasn't working at the Olive Garden. 705 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: He was in like an executive chef program. He was 706 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: studying to be like, what the hell? But he stops 707 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: working at Olive Garden now because of this. It was 708 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: ridiculous and I just and that that's to me. There's 709 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: a clip of Rick Flair talking about Shane and Shane, 710 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: you know, being the same thing, Shane being in in 711 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: a management program and Rick Flair buries him, and that's 712 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: well with Rick Flair, okay, because. 713 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: That's why between the two, right, But that's. 714 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: All he knows. Rick Flair doesn't. He doesn't know what 715 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 2: it's like to have to go out and really fight 716 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: for whatever. 717 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: Guess what Rick Flair is blessed Rick Flair and to 718 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: have all of these opportunities and to get paid an 719 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: absorbent amount of money to make these, you know, these 720 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: shots that he's able to make. And you know, if 721 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: we could all be like Rick Flair, whoa we'd be, 722 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: it'd be great. But you know we Shane and I 723 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: have had this discussion. Rick Flair is great at what 724 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: he does. There are so many people in this industry 725 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: who are getting paid thousands and thousands and thousands of 726 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: dollars to make these appearances. The people that come from ECW, 727 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: there's one or two that I can think of that 728 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: are making really top money on the andes and then 729 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: the rest are just doing what they need to do 730 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: to get by. And like Shane said it best, he 731 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: goes like, you know, we were at the top of 732 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: our game in ECW, like what Flair was to WWF, 733 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: Shane was to ECW. So Shane should be getting these 734 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: top paydays, right, you know what I mean? It's like 735 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, and that's why that's my whole thing, like, 736 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: if you don't like what you're being offered, just don't 737 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: take it. But then again, you you know, these guys 738 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: need to work, so if another offer doesn't come in, 739 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: you stay home that week and you don't make any money. 740 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: It's such a double and sword and I'm so blessed 741 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: that I don't have to deal with that bullshit. You know, 742 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: I pick and choose and I'm able to do so. 743 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: But a lot of the guys aren't, and it sucks. 744 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of these promoters are basically 745 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: fans who get a couple you know, bucks in their 746 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: pocket and think they could run this huge show and 747 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: it turns out to be a flop. And then some 748 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: of the boys get stiffed on pay and you know 749 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: they don't have a deposit. It's a bullshit market anymore. 750 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't like the way things are being ran. I 751 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: got an offer the other day. The guy accepted my price, 752 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: no problem, blah blah blah. As soon as we mentioned 753 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: a deposit. Because I don't know who this man is, 754 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: I said, you have to get me a deposit. Ghosted 755 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: us goes and I'm just like, why did you even 756 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: approach me? And and you know your price is great. Yeah, 757 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: we can do that. 758 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: And then you know they want to pay you off 759 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: the gate that they you're not going to do that. 760 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 2: Think they're doing well. I'll tell you why guys are 761 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 2: starting to wave deposits. 762 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: Well, guess what I'm not. And no, unless I know you, 763 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: If I don't know you, I need a deposit because 764 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to show up at your shitty show 765 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: where you draw twenty seven people and have you cry 766 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: me your river or how you can't pay me. You know, 767 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: it's never happened to me before, but there's always a 768 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: first and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let it happen. 769 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: Oh I've heard, I've heard some story. 770 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me too. Keep your shitty pay day. I'll 771 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: stay home, I'll do Twitch. I'll do Twitch, have fun 772 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: out of the comfort of my own home, and I'll 773 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: make a couple bucks on Twitch. I'd rather do something 774 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: like that than deal with the headache of having to 775 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: deal with these people because no one knows what they're 776 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: doing these days. 777 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 2: No, no, no, not at all. But I've heard some 778 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: of the old timers, the guys that you know are 779 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: out there, a lot are stopping with deposits, and they're 780 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: just because they know you know. 781 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: They know you. 782 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they're just waving waving it now and they're 783 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: just going right to the show. And no, that's it. 784 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: And I was shocked to hear that because I'm so 785 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 2: used to it, you know, from running all the conventions 786 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: and stuff. You know, I didn't book you for our convention, 787 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 2: but you were booked by DAB. But for everybody else 788 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: that you know, everybody got a deposit, everybody across the board. 789 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: Now on the other way, there's only a hand not 790 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: even a handful. I can count on two fingers who 791 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: I will work for without a deposit. There's two people. 792 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: You're one of them, Yes, Chad's the other one. Everybody 793 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: else deposit or my ass stays home. And I'm okay 794 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: with that. I don't care. I don't care anymore. I 795 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: love meeting you, but under this, you know, these circumstances, 796 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: it's not worth it. My anxiety is like here anyway, 797 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: when I'm on. 798 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: The road, it aout. I've heard stories from guys that 799 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 2: have had to go. Either they locked the promoter in 800 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 2: the room until he gets sent their money, or they 801 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 2: go all right, let me look around like, I'm gonna 802 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: take that laptop there, I'm gonna go. I stand, I'm 803 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: gonna take a lot of shit that you got out there. 804 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: All those WWE toys that you're selling, those are all 805 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 2: coming home with me. 806 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: But it's works and doesn't get paid. What kind of 807 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: job works where you don't get paid like that? It 808 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: blows my mind. This industry is so crooked and backwards 809 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: that we have to struggle to get paychecks when we're 810 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: providing you a service. Oh just all right, attentional promoters. 811 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: If you don't have money, stay to hell home, don't 812 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 1: call us, don't and and don't. Yes, it's to death, 813 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: and then go. That's like, just leave us alone. 814 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: I got to get that name from you later. It's 815 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: just so I know, to be a word. 816 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I should ask him right now, but I 817 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: will not do it. 818 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 2: I know you're you're a classy lady, so you will. 819 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: But I was just like, are you kidding me? Like? Ugh? 820 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: So I will be more than happy to just work 821 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: with people that I trust and then stay home and 822 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: do everything else from here and do my kids, because 823 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: that's what I love. 824 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: And you know what I love too, The fact that 825 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: you didn't think we'd fill this hour just literally and 826 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 2: then this is what I love. See, it's just natural conversation. 827 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 2: We were talking about Buff. Bagwell, Buff, clean yourself up 828 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 2: and get back to being the stuff. 829 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Buff, Yeah, you're you're the stuff. You're but now 830 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: you're just rough. So let's go. 831 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 2: You signed all the pictures that day. Buff is still 832 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 2: the stuff. 833 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: Oh. I hope, I we you know, we wish him 834 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 1: the best. I hope he gets his life back together. 835 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: But I hate to exactly, I hate to see these 836 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: stories about the boys. It's just very, very troublesome to me. 837 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't like it. So get well soon, Buff. 838 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 2: That's right, Buff. Let's move on to the rest of 839 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 2: the week. Here kind of in the vein of wrestling. 840 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: It can be wrestling, it could be television, it could 841 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: be music, it could be whatever. There's been a lot 842 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 2: of talk about things starting over again, what's old is new? 843 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about reboots and covers. Oh, now you 844 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 2: were part of a reboot that necessarily we maybe so 845 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: exactly so think in that kind of vein of reboots 846 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: and covers. Covers usually in terms of music fifty to 847 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 2: fifty they could be good they could be real shit. 848 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna. 849 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: Talk about reboots and covers. We're gonna do kind of 850 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 2: to watch along Scinuce, I have a YouTube clip that 851 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 2: I want you to watch. Accuser of the Brethren. Mean 852 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 2: is that it is this lady going ape shit in 853 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: a Walmart, yelling at some guy, cursing at him in 854 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: a whole like, you know, professing the Lord to this gentleman, 855 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 2: but cursing up a storm. And I left my off 856 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 2: when I watched it. So I just want to see 857 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: what your reaction is gonna be, you know, and what 858 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: you would do in this situation if you saw this. 859 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like a bonus, a little watch 860 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: along thing the world Star it could have been, but 861 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 2: it's more of like just watching some crazy lady lose 862 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: her shit one more. 863 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: It's known for that, So I like these videos. 864 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: Okay, And then how about this for your match? How 865 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: about this? Ready? I dug in for this one. Shane 866 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 2: Douglas with Francine Louis Spoli from Hard TV. 867 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: I love them. 868 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 2: Great match, great match, great match. 869 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Louis was one of a kind a. 870 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 2: Lot of chance. 871 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 872 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: So we're gonna towards the match, So we're gonna need 873 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 2: your deciphering of the ECW Arena crowd. This is from 874 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 2: This was recorded September fourteenth, ninety six. Broadcast September seventeenth, 875 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 2: ninety six. 876 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. 877 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 2: So that's what we're doing on Patreon. If you want 878 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 2: to follow me, it's at Chad E and B. If 879 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 2: you want to go to my website, it's Ibexclusives dot com. 880 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 2: Been working out of the lot, getting very web savvy 881 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 2: and making it look really cool. I have a lot 882 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: of stuff that I got done. Just worked with one 883 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 2: of your Philadelphia Philly greats, Bobby A. Bray You Yes, yeah. 884 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: My brother traveled down to Orlando and we did the 885 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: signing in Orlando this past week. It was excellent. Fans 886 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 2: turned out and droves to send items in. Go to 887 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 2: my website, I'd be exclusive dot com and see what 888 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: else we have for you. You're a fan, check it out. 889 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: Awesome Okay. As always across the board, you can find 890 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: me at ECW DVA Francceine. On social media, I am 891 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: on Twitch. Come watch me play poker and do other things. 892 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: It is www dot twitch, dot tv, forward slash ECWDVA 893 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: Francine also on cameo. 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