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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, we have a

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Speaker 1: woman who is saving America. And I say that because

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of you think President Trump is

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Speaker 1: saving America, but she has to save President Trump too,

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Speaker 1: and so we are so blessed to have Alena Habba

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Speaker 1: with us today. She is the general counsel for Save

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Speaker 1: America and the legal spokesperson for President Trump. Alena, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being here. It's been a wild year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wild few years, three years. Yes, it's been a trip,

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Speaker 2: for sure. Thank you for having me. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: We watched just recently you came out and you spoke

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Speaker 1: to reporters, and I guess there's been some pushback on

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Speaker 1: you came out and said this is a witch hunt.

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Speaker 1: They're going after Trump. I think that what you said

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Speaker 1: is really motivating people to say, we're done with this.

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Speaker 1: We are done with this attack on a political opponent.

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Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like this in the United States,

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Speaker 1: and I think people are loving that you're willing to

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Speaker 1: come out and say this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that, I think so. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: can tell you I get you know, male stacks like

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Speaker 2: this and people sending support, and of course there are trolls,

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Speaker 2: but those people, you know, I've never spent the time

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Speaker 2: in a day to send a message that's negative to

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Speaker 2: somebody like that. That's just crazy town. But you know,

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Speaker 2: there is support, and I think the support is because

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Speaker 2: people are freaked out. I think that if you look

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Speaker 2: at actual facts, I'm not a talking head, per se.

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Speaker 2: I speak about facts that I know of because I'm

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Speaker 2: in it and I'm telling you things I see. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you take a prosecutor out of the Biden administration

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Speaker 2: and put him in a DA in New York, that's

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Speaker 2: election interference. That's a witch hunt. When you have a

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Speaker 2: ex attorney you know as your key witness, who's who's

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Speaker 2: gone out there and said terrible things and really to

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Speaker 2: save himself, that's interference. That's a witch hunt. When you

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Speaker 2: have DA's and a going to the administration and being

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Speaker 2: in the visitors' logs months before they file complaints against

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Speaker 2: President Trump in an election year, that's election interference. It's

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Speaker 2: a witch hunt. So I'm not sure where the criticism

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Speaker 2: comes from because I only go by facts like these

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Speaker 2: are facts. These are not opinions, they're facts. And they

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Speaker 2: don't like when I speak the truth or when I

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Speaker 2: get the facts out because they're not pretty, and they're

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Speaker 2: not American, and they're not what we stand for. And

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Speaker 2: like I say all the time, I think it's a

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Speaker 2: disgrace and we got to save our country. I agree.

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Speaker 1: How far do you think that this goes though, beyond

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Speaker 1: even President Trump? Because we have people in the state

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Speaker 1: people to run because they are so afraid in a

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Speaker 1: purple state where the Blue people control, the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: people in jail just if they run. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: are really afraid of what they're seeing here. It's unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: It is unprecedented. There are days that I'm afraid. You know,

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Speaker 2: I could do nothing wrong, but they'll make something up.

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Speaker 2: That's scary to me. I know personally. You know, people

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Speaker 2: You have this crazy vitriol and divisiveness right now in

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Speaker 2: try and say, I'm not speaking just for President Trump,

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Speaker 2: speaking for America because immunity things like that, that's not

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Speaker 2: a President Trump issue, that's an American issue. That's an

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Speaker 2: whoever it is that's sitting there, that's who we need

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Speaker 2: it's not an opinion, it's just what's happening. Eight years

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Speaker 2: think that if we had somebody in power, frankly, that

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well, I have no doubt that if President Trump

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Speaker 1: But you talked about the division, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: been watching this jury selection process and there's been a

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the stats, and this is why

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Speaker 2: It was not from Brooklyn, not from the Bronx, not

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Speaker 2: you just look at statistics, Manhattan is blue. It's not

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Speaker 2: blue with some trickle. It's a blue area. And we

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Speaker 2: think that that is just not a joke, it's real life,

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Speaker 2: and we're worried about it. Of course we are. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't recuse, that has a clear bias. If you look

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Speaker 2: at the behavior, it's the same behavior I've dealt with

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Speaker 2: which is unheard of in this country. Historically, we never

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Speaker 1: We just talked to someone here in Michigan today and

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Speaker 1: I said, but would you think about that long and hard?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see that? Because do we have

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Speaker 1: So at what point do at least these two attorneys

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Speaker 2: Well, the attorneys, let's be very clear, are diversity inclusion

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Speaker 2: not transactional attorneys. They're different type of attorney. And I'll

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Speaker 2: just say that. So don't think just because they're an

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Speaker 2: I am not a criminal attorney. I am not in

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Speaker 2: not what I practice. Lawyers that pretend to know are

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Speaker 2: And I may have experience doing family law, but that

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Speaker 2: I don't want to speak to jurors. I think intimidation

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Speaker 2: But I will say this, We're in a blue state.

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I think we're all worried. But

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Speaker 2: There are clear records.

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Speaker 2: I think if Alvin Bragg had it his way, he'd

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Speaker 2: can be killed? You know, that's really how desperate it's become.

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Speaker 1: That's the way. I hadn't heard this, so they would

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Speaker 1: they would send him to a federal person.

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Speaker 2: They currently are trying. Well, I have no idea. But

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Speaker 2: they're currently trying, of course, to put him in prison.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a criminal case. This is not civil.

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Speaker 2: know the derangement is serious. And if they can't beat

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Speaker 2: you don't have to watch CNN or Fox. You just

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Speaker 2: have to know what your bank account looks like. And

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Speaker 2: this vitriol, you know, comes from the current administration, the anger,

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Speaker 2: the the derangement, but more importantly the desperation. I think

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Speaker 1: They tried kicking people off of or they tried kicking

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Speaker 1: we have all of these ridiculous lawsuits. Quickly take us

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Speaker 2: those are moving too quickly. Obviously, we have a immunity

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Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. Every other president got absolute immunity. As you

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Speaker 2: New York. You know, they created this Adult Survivors Act

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Speaker 2: that too. Look, the next few months are going to

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Speaker 2: be the fight of the century. We've got to buckle down.

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Speaker 2: It's legal lawfare. Unfortunately, it's no longer about politics. It's

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Speaker 1: But is that they're trying to take away Secret Service? Do?

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Speaker 1: What is that a New York thing that they're trying

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Speaker 2: It's federal. I would have to look, but I saw

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Speaker 1: But that makes that makes absolutely no sense. Now, so

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Speaker 2: Bring the charge in blue states like Washington, DC, like

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Speaker 2: George that's what they're doing. Let's bring them in states

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's obviously the last thing I'll ask you. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I think we have to replace a lot of the

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Speaker 2: top This comes from the Biden administration Attorney General Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 2: and then they bring henchmen in from attorneys outside into

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Speaker 2: can work both ways. But I think what you said

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Speaker 2: we really want to lower ourselves as Americans to behave

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Speaker 2: that way? How About if you're not doing your job,

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Speaker 2: you just get replaced with somebody who will. And how

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Speaker 2: about instead of vendettas and vindictiveness, we just worry about

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Speaker 1: I think what you said is so interesting because people

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Speaker 1: don't understand that what happened in twenty sixteen with Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump was truly organic. These were people who said, I

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Speaker 1: I love what he stands for. And that is what

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Speaker 1: scares Democrats more than anything. Organic voters coming out and saying,

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Speaker 2: Right, It's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, Alena Haba, thank you so much for every thing

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Speaker 1: you do. Thanks for coming on the program today. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for fighting for us because we see

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Speaker 1: what you do as fighting for America. I know you're

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Speaker 1: out there every day for Donald Trump, but that means

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Speaker 1: a lot to us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Now I'm out here for us.

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Speaker 2: I'm not for our kids, but thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Tudor, thanks for having.

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Speaker 1: Me well as a fellow mom. Thank you, and thank

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Speaker 1: you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Have a blessed day,