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Speaker 2: Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. I'm channing

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Speaker 2: the room along with Tyler Stafford, and we are going

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Speaker 2: to bring you breathless play by play, inning by inning

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Speaker 2: breakdown of Thursday nights Astros raise game at dyke In Park. Tyler,

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Speaker 2: would you like to take the first inning or should I?

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Speaker 3: So I let my daughter since it was her birthday.

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Speaker 3: We stayed up until the inning where al tuo v

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Speaker 3: hit the home run, which is her short friend. As

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Speaker 3: we mentioned on the last podcast, he hit home run.

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Speaker 3: It's three to three. I'm like, all right, it's bedtime.

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Speaker 3: I go on Rocker. Five minutes later, I walk out

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Speaker 3: and it's eight to three and I was like, what

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Speaker 3: in the world happened? And I'll be honest, that gave

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Speaker 3: me all of the AMMO that I needed to continue

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Speaker 3: watching the Pee Wee Herman documentary on HBO, so I

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Speaker 3: did not watch them. It's really good.

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Speaker 1: Ye was the pew great?

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Speaker 3: I am a big fan of one, like the Pee

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Speaker 3: Wee Herman movie. I never really saw the show, but

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Speaker 3: Paul Rubins. I'm also I don't know if you can

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Speaker 3: see back here. This is a comedy Bang Bang record.

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Speaker 3: I'm a gigantic nerd for a comedy Bang Bang, and

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Speaker 3: Scott Ackerman, the host of that, was friends with Paul

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Speaker 3: Rubens and so he would come on. So anyway, I'm

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Speaker 3: a fan of of all that and the documentary is

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Speaker 3: really really good, so highly highly recommend that to everybody.

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Speaker 2: When I was younger, I was obsessed with I think

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Speaker 2: it was in Peewe's Big Adventure where they have like

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Speaker 2: the rupe Goldberg that makes him breakfast every morning. I

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Speaker 2: was obsessed with, like I like, I think I asked

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Speaker 2: my parents once, can you make me the exact breakfast

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Speaker 2: that Pewe Herman got from the Rupe Goldberg?

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Speaker 1: And they were just like, yeah, we'll make you eggs

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Speaker 1: and toast and a waffle. Cool.

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Speaker 3: That's close enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you had.

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Speaker 2: You had a better use of your time last night

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Speaker 2: than watching That was a three hour in seventeen minute

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Speaker 2: game that I'm sure everyone watched every minute of and

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: The Ashers lost thirteen to three. Their bullpen had been

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Speaker 2: so good for all for all year. They were due

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Speaker 2: a clunker of a game, and man did they deliver.

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Speaker 2: That was a Brian King did not pitch well Forrest

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Speaker 2: Whitley came in, did not pitch well. Caleb ort walked

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Speaker 2: a bunch of guys. Two of those three guys have

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Speaker 2: been good all year for you and Orton King Whitley

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Speaker 2: is kind of the the mop up guy. He gave

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Speaker 2: up some rockets. But yeah, it's just you flush that

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Speaker 2: you have fromer Beldez going today. Ryan Gusto getting eleven

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Speaker 2: outs did not help. That is a longer term conversation

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Speaker 2: that we will have at some point, but today we

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Speaker 2: want to do something a little bit different. Tyler, I

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Speaker 2: did something extremely stupid last week. I know it'll shock you.

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Speaker 2: I gave fans another reason to yell at me by

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Speaker 2: participating in the Athletics All Quarter Century project, and I named,

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Speaker 2: or I formulated what I believe to be the Astros

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Speaker 2: All quarter Century team for the Athletic Now, for those

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Speaker 2: that need to define this a little bit, that is

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Speaker 2: two thousand through twenty and twenty five. That actually coincides

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Speaker 2: with when the Astros moved to what was then and

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Speaker 2: Downtown Ballpark team, because they've had five names since then,

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Speaker 2: so we can't call it one name, but a lot

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Speaker 2: of things coincided, and going into it, I was a

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen team. I'm going to write the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: it was a lot more difficult than I thought it

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Speaker 2: the middle of its golden era, that has had all

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Speaker 2: almost all of its franchise success in the last seven

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Speaker 2: or eight years, the beginning of this beginning of this

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Speaker 2: difficult positions to narrow down, There were some differenticult decisions

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Speaker 1: It. It was a much harder assignment than I thought

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you also got kind of short changed, where the

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Speaker 3: two legends of the Before Times, you know, were past

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Speaker 3: their peak at two thousand, right, So that's your cutoffs.

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Speaker 3: So if you're looking at it of like from two

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Speaker 3: Did you know? I was at his last game, his

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Speaker 3: That was our big splurge for the year. And then

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Speaker 3: So it's not even like an exciting game other than

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Speaker 3: he was there, and I remember being it's silly looking

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I was there last game. I got a

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Speaker 1: That's super cool.

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Speaker 2: Including Vigio kind of was the reason why this became

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Speaker 2: such a laborsome exercise. And before we get really into it,

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Speaker 2: i'll for those that haven't read it, we'll start with

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Speaker 2: But here are the position players that I had that

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Speaker 2: I put on my team on the Athletic. You can

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Speaker 2: read it if you'd like. Lance Berkman at first base,

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Speaker 2: Craig Bigio at second, Carlos Correa at short, Alex Bregman

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Speaker 2: and Jeff Bagwell is the designated hitter now. Bigio I

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Speaker 2: wrote this among the Astro's position players who had more

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Speaker 2: war than Craig Bigio beginning in two thousand, Among them

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Speaker 2: are Richard Hidalgo, Morgan Ensberg, and Hunter Pence. Craig Bigeo

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Speaker 2: below average major league player. It by all stats, and

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Speaker 2: things like that he should not have been on this team, Tyler.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't make myself do that, though, for a couple

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Speaker 2: of reasons. One he's Craig Vigio and two when you

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Speaker 2: start to do these things, you do have to consider impact.

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Speaker 2: You have to consider like what because you're writing this

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Speaker 2: to read and engage and you know, debate, and they

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Speaker 2: certainly have. But Craig Bigio's three thousandth hit at what

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Speaker 2: was then? Was it Enron Field?

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Speaker 4: Still?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember no point.

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Speaker 2: Craig Bidgeo's three thousandth hit at and Then It Made

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Speaker 2: uh in this quarter century. I I could not live

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Speaker 2: with myself if I didn't put Craig Biggio on this list.

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Speaker 2: Am I am I missing the point? Like you've you've

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Speaker 3: He has to be on there. It's it's Craig Vigio.

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Speaker 3: It's wild that you have two Hall of Fame second

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Speaker 3: pretty crazy. But yeah, you gotta include video for sure.

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Speaker 3: I assume Roger Sedanio was right off your your list

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Speaker 3: thought you did a really good job. It's a hard

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Speaker 3: But for me, hundred pences is that guy out there

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Speaker 3: Jason Castro is good. I watched him for a long time.

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Speaker 1: This a war exercise.

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Speaker 1: Wore at each That's why great video is on this list.

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Speaker 2: And you know Jason Castro lapped like everyone else Tony,

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Speaker 2: you said, Brad Austmas, Martin Maldonado, like the insert old

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Speaker 2: I thought it was too drastic to leave him off.

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Speaker 1: That's just my thought.

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Speaker 2: But Martin Maldonado, and again I may be talking out

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Speaker 2: a figure. Martin Maldonado's impact on those teams from twenty

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Speaker 2: So the Jordon thing was hard. It was hard to

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Speaker 2: To me, even though he retired in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 3: Also Baseball two thousand and one for the n sixty four.

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Speaker 2: Did more inside the clubhouse, behind the scenes, and I

433
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: think anyone knows about and I think you know that's

434
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: been written a lot what he has done. But he

435
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: did more back there than I think anyone knows about.

436
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: But I mean, Carlos Lee was worth more war than

437
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: Michael Brantley in this time frame. He missed too much time,

438
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: did not provide much value defensively, aside from that wonderful

439
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: double play in Game six of the twenty nineteen ALCS.

440
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: I know everyone liked his nickname. I know everyone liked

441
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: that George Springer changed attire once. But yeah, no, like

442
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: I you can't convince me that Michael Brantley.

443
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: What about Carlos Lee. We need to talk about Carlos Lee.

444
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: Lee was awesome, man, I mean you could pencil him

445
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: in for one hundred RBI every year. Another just really

446
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: fun player to watch. The Ashers had a good run

447
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 3: of leftfielder's moises Aloo. I know that was like late nineties,

448
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: but he was in there at the beginning. I think

449
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: I don't have it pulled up and I'm pretty sure

450
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: he was in there in the brick Reds. He was

451
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: really good. But yeah, Carlos Lee was a really, really

452
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: good hitter, and I remember being very excited because I

453
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 3: used to hate watching him on the Brewers. He would

454
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: ruin my life. I feel like they I've said this before,

455
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: I feel like they played them every Sunday afternoon. I

456
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: know that that's not true, but in my head, Sunday

457
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 3: afternoon baseball is the Astras versus Brewers. I need someone

458
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: to figure out why. I think that there must have

459
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: been a three year stretch when I was a kid

460
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: where the schedule, for whatever reason, they did play a

461
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: lot of Sunday afternoon But I swear to you they

462
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: played eighty percent of their Sunday afternoon baseball games against

463
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Speaker 3: the Brewers. So I always pictured Carlos Lee and freaking

464
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 3: bing sheets ruining my life too. But yes, was very

465
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: excited when when carlosly joined my team because he was

466
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Speaker 3: a really really.

467
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: Good hitter, fantastic defender too, standout defender and left field

468
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Speaker 2: The pitching staff was difficult to put together. We'll get

492
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Speaker 2: to the closer in a minute, and that I actually

493
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: had a different closer in there, and then at the

494
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: last moment deleted it in favor of who I ended

495
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: up picking. But as we should, we should start with

496
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: the starting rotation. The starting rotation that I picked for

497
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Speaker 2: the All quarter Century team was Justin Verlander, roy Oswalt,

498
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole, Dallas, Kikeel, and Roger Clemens. I don't think

499
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: you can go wrong with any of those guys. I

500
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: think Verlander, Oswalt, Verlander and Oswald are locks. Like that

501
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: is like you can't there. We're not even gonna waste

502
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: our energy talking about them. Royos Walt, I even wrote

503
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: this there like he may be one of the more

504
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: underrated just players in certainly an astro's history, maybe in

505
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: like the last twenty thirty, Like he was unbelievably good

506
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: and the longevity and the amount of volume innings he

507
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: threw and how good he was. Ay got a tractor

508
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: from from Drayton Plaine. So those two were lots. I

509
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: can hear debate on the other three. What did you

510
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: think of this five man rotation?

511
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Speaker 5: All?

512
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: I just want to talk about royos Walt for a minute.

513
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: Far and away my favorite pitcher growing up. He was

514
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: so fun to watch. The curveball that he threw was

515
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: like poetry. I loved watching him pitch. You would have

516
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: loved that every game was an hour and a half long.

517
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: He pitched very, very fast. But I agree, if he

518
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: played for a real team in that era, he would

519
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: be a Hall of Famer like he was. He was

520
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: so good. I want to say he started like eighteen

521
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: and zero against the Reds too, which was really fun.

522
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: Like he just dominated the Reds for a good chunk

523
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: of his career, so durable, like you said, pitched a

524
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: ton of innings, just an incredible pitcher. And you know

525
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: the story of him fixing his arm. Do you know

526
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: how the story?

527
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so he was.

528
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: I think in the minor leagues, I'm gonna I'm gonna

529
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: butcher this, but I believe in the minor leagues he

530
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: was having arm trouble and he went to go like

531
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: work on his car engine and it shocked him like

532
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: he was messing with it, and that fixed his arm.

533
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: Like his arm was fine after that, and then he

534
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: threw like two hundred and fifty innings a year. So

535
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: I think of that every time I applied jumper cables

536
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: to my car, maybe all Rookie of the year myself

537
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: and become an all Star pitcher like roy Oosewalt shocking

538
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: something into my arm, but he was incredible. I agree

539
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: those two are locks. Oswalt and Verlander are in there.

540
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: My biggest hot take, Garrett cole Is is the better pitcher.

541
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: I agree Wandu Rodriguez should be in over him. He

542
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: was awesome again as a lefty, another great curveball, just

543
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: very very fun to watch. He was on the team

544
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: forever too, but he was He was also a very

545
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: good pitcher in an era where it was tough to

546
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: be a pitcher. I mean again, like Garrett cole Is

547
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: way better. Like I'm not gonna argue over that, but

548
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: you already have you know, another short season or short

549
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: stink guy and Roger Clemens. And I think Clemens did

550
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: more when you think of like Astro's impact.

551
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean he.

552
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: Had some big moments to you know, passing the Walter

553
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: Johnsons trick out record.

554
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: I think.

555
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: In an Astro's uniform, he was still awesome at like

556
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: forty two, you know, just pumping splitters. I think I've

557
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: told this story too, but we had like a partial

558
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: season ticket plan that was in the like four seat

559
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: row directly next to the Astros bullpen in like two

560
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: thousand and four, two thousand and five, so we would

561
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: get there early to watch them warm up in the

562
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: bullpen before they'd go out. And the sound that the

563
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: glove made when Roger Clemens was warming up, I will

564
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: never forget, Like it sounded unlike anything I'd ever heard.

565
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: I swear he was throwing two hundred miles an hour,

566
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: like I don't know what they were doing to make

567
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: the glove pop the way that it did, But man,

568
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: he was awesome. Other than the All Star Game that

569
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: he came in and pitched that was unfortunately. I think

570
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: he had like a one five r coming into the

571
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Speaker 3: game and he gave up like four runs in the

572
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: first inning of the All Star Game. But yeah, I

573
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: mean to me, I would have Wandy over Garrett Cole.

574
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: I think Ky Cole is another lock, and I don't

575
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: think you can talk about the Astros of this quarter

576
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 3: century without talking about Dallas Kikeel. But yeah, I think

577
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: I'd have wandy In over over Cole. But I completely

578
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: understand why you would have Cole in.

579
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Speaker 2: I think Kikeel represents so much of how this quarter

580
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: century turned for the Astros. Like he was not good

581
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: his first couple of years here, Brent Strom got here,

582
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: they put their pitching infrastructure into place, and they turned

583
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: them into a cy young winner, Like.

584
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: He grew a beer.

585
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: That's what fixed it all that too, And I mean,

586
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: but you look at this is what they do now,

587
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: Like Dallas Kaikeel was the arch type of what we

588
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: see now with the Astros. They get pitchers that are

589
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: middling or not great, and they see some stuff they

590
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: can change with them and they tell them to do it.

591
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: And not all of them become cy young winners, but

592
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: Dallas Kikeel did. And Dallas Kikeel, you know, was the

593
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: ace for the team that started this era. And for

594
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: a while, they had the Kaikeel's Corner little beard section

595
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: at Minute Made Park, which like.

596
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: I had one at one point, I just sat there.

597
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they that got people to come back, Like

598
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean, because a lot of people were disenchanted by

599
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: what had happened the last you know, three and four

600
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: years previous. They'd watched his team lose one hundred games.

601
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they needed to give out fake

602
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: beard to get people to come back, but like Dallas

603
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Kaykeel became appointment television. It became appointment TV to watch

604
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: Dallas Kykele pitch for the Astros in twenty fifteen, just

605
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: like when Correa got called up, the fans flocked there

606
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: when Altuve would come up, like that was the beginning

607
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: of what you see now. And Wandi Rodriguez, you were right.

608
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: He's got the third highest f war in the past

609
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: quarter century among pitchers, behind only Verlander and Oswalt an

610
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: Astro's uniform, you know, you could also make a case

611
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: for Fromber. Fromber's right behind Wandi Rodriguez, Like, you could

612
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: make a legitimate case that from Berveldez should be on

613
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: this team. And I know, I know, like there's been

614
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: a ton of inconsistencies with him, but the body of work,

615
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: by and large, the volume of innings he has pitched,

616
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: I would listen to. I would listen to that argument

617
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: any day of the week that Fromberveldez should be on

618
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: this team.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he suffers from his peak being while

620
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: there were other right aces on the team. You know,

621
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: if if he if he were on the team when

622
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: at the same time that Kaiko was or whatever, when

623
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: there's like no one else worth watching, I think he

624
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: stands out a lot more and you're seeing that this

625
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: year that not a lot of pitchers on the Astros

626
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: right now, and you you do kind of breathe a

627
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: sigh of relief when it's a Promber day in the

628
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 3: same way that you did with Kaikeel in twenty fifteen.

629
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean for Romber again has been incredible.

630
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: I understand leaving him off the list, but another really

631
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: really good picture for the Astros.

632
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the Wandy thing, I think a lot

633
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: of it was impact too, Like Wandi Rodriguez was really

634
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: really good, but he didn't pitch on a bunch of

635
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: good teams, like I mean, he was not surrounding and

636
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: a lot of it's not his fault. He can only

637
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: pitch around the roster.

638
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: He's good, he's on.

639
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: So but I think I think Garrett the reason I

640
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: included Garrett Cole, the two seasons he pitched in Houston.

641
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Were so otherworldly good.

642
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's hard to ignore that and the impact

643
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: act of like I mean, look, they're gonna go. They

644
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: would have steamrolled of the twenty nineteen World Series to

645
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: get to the World Series. They probably if Garrett Cole

646
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: was like a normal pedestrian pitcher because like the roster

647
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: around them was so good, but like the.

648
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Dominance that he.

649
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: And Verlanders showcase that season, like they put that team

650
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: on their back every time they went out there, like

651
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: it was an automatic win.

652
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: And it's hard to.

653
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: Ignore that level of elite performance, even though it was

654
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: in such a small stamp. It was a two season thing.

655
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: But that's where I was coming.

656
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: From with that, and it was a little it was

657
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: a little more hard.

658
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: It was harder to It was also hard with Roger Clemens,

659
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: Like Roger Clemens wasn't here for that long.

660
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: He won a cy young.

661
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he was really really good and helped them

662
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: get to a World Series, just like Garrett Cole did.

663
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: So I kind of put those two together a little bit,

664
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe I could have shown a little

665
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: more deference to a guy like Wandi Rodriguez, who if

666
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about Jason Castro throwing him a

667
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: bone for being in an awful fallow era of Astros baseball,

668
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: maybe I could have done that with Wandi Rodriguez. But

669
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: to me, it just felt like Garrett Cole's peak was

670
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: too dominant to ignore.

671
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: Maybe you could put Garrett Cole on the quarter century

672
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: Scott boris representing himself team he can be on that one.

673
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: I think that that's part of it for sure. That

674
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: soured a lot of people, and I understand. I think

675
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: that was a rough situation all around.

676
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: I know Garrett. I know Garrett, and that is not him.

677
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: That was a tough moment and one of the most

678
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: despondent sports environments I've ever seen that clubhouse after Game

679
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: seven of the twenty nineteen World Series. And let's also

680
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: note that the whole reason that that got out was

681
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: against MLB's media guidelines. One of the television stations in

682
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: town was running live from the clubhouse, which not supposed

683
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: to do, and that got out. That should never have

684
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: gotten out, like the would it have been written, probably,

685
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: But the fact that the video got out and that

686
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: that damaged it a lot more. And that was not

687
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole's fault, That was not the asher's fault. That

688
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: was a television chason that didn't know what they were

689
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: doing and disobeyed media regulations and made as made a

690
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: made a blow up, made a story.

691
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: But let's go to the closer.

692
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: When I put this file into our CMS our thing

693
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: to file this story, I had Brad Ledge as the

694
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Astros closer on this All quarter Century team. I then

695
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: decided to go with Ryan Presley because, again, like the

696
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: you cannot ignore what Ryan Presley did in the playoffs,

697
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: like he is behind Mariano Rivera probably one of the

698
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: second or third best playoff reliever of this era, and

699
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: it is hard to ignore that he closed out the

700
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: only World Series ever won on Texas soil by a

701
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 2: Texas team. He had a twenty two and a third

702
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: inning streak without allowing an earned run that got snapped

703
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: in the last year's wild Card series. It was that

704
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: was a hard decision because if you look at Lidge

705
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: and Presley's counting stats in the regular season during their

706
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: Astros tenures of this era, it's basically the same. Like

707
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: they they were the same pitcher. I just thought that

708
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: the postseason needs to win out over over, you know,

709
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not holding the Poohols homer off of Brad Lidge.

710
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Against him, but they won that series. They did win

711
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: that series, and Brad Lidge, you know, did well. But

712
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: like it, Presley's.

713
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: Sustained postseason success was too difficult for me to ignore,

714
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: and that's why I changed it at the end.

715
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. I mean, obviously they also had a

716
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: guy named Billy Wagner who was a pretty good closer

717
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: for a while for the Astros. So yet you had

718
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: a lot to choose from. It's always bothered me that

719
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: brad Lidge immediately got postseason success with the Phillies and

720
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: the Astros only traded him because they were bad. You know,

721
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: if the Astros had been good, he would have continued

722
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: to be on the Astros. I mean, he had an

723
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: unbelievable run with the Phillies after being awesome with the Astros.

724
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: Another really fun thing about brad Lidge was watching him

725
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: kind of graduate to that closer role. There was a

726
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: year where he was the seventh inning guy, and then

727
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: it was Octavio Dotel and then Billy Wagner, and it

728
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: felt like if the Astros had a lead in the

729
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 3: sixth inning, the game was over, Like there's no way

730
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: that you were going to score off of those three guys.

731
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: And then he got the setup role and then was

732
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: the closer. So it was really cool to like see

733
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: him kind of progress through that after being drafted by

734
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: the Astros. I am with you, like you're gonna think

735
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: of more. Ryan Presley highlights because the team was a

736
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: lot better. I think if you could like drop in

737
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 3: one or the other in their peak in a World

738
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: Series game, I think I would probably lean Lidge a

739
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: little bit more. Yeah, his slider Man was unhittable. Like

740
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: he had games where he would come in and it's

741
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: the classic closer thing where you're like, he's going to

742
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: strike out three guys and make them look silly. It

743
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: wasn't like, you know, I mean again, Presley was very

744
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: very good, also struck out a lot of guys, but

745
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: you know, it was like he's gonna get some weak

746
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 3: contact whatever, like brad Lidge was going to strike you out.

747
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just again, I think it's

748
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: probably because I was like thirteen at the time, so

749
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm just always going to prefer people from my childhood.

750
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: But Bradledge was so good.

751
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: So good.

752
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we talked about this when when Ryan Presley

753
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: got traded this offseason and like the fans like not

754
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: really like reacting like it's because Presley doesn't do it

755
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: like with the like you just talked about, like Bradledge,

756
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: you knew when Bradley's went out there, he's gonna strike

757
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: out three guys like at his best, he was unhittable.

758
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: At Ryan Presley's best, he can still be hit, but

759
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: it's not going to be like rockets. It's gonna be

760
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: ground balls, it's gonna be like weak pop ups. It's

761
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't do it as with the dominant, like visceral dominance,

762
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: as like a guy like Josh Hater who can make

763
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: you look silly with a sink, a ninety nine mile

764
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: an hour sinker and a slider, like he doesn't get on,

765
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: like Presley's not gonna get on pitching Ninja a bunch.

766
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: He will, but not a ton like That's why. But

767
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: he just was as consistent and steady. And when he

768
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: can do that in the postseason, I think that outweighs

769
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 2: a lot of you know. I mean, that's the difference

770
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: maker for me, because Lidge and Presley, they both played

771
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: six seasons in this era, they both had around the

772
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 2: same number as saves around the same war, and it's

773
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: just it's hard to look at Presley's it's hard to

774
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: ignore Presley's postseason career. And you mentioned Billy Wagner. I

775
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: don't want to get yelled at for leaving off another

776
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. He only played for the ad Is

777
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: in this spam. He was only here from two thousand

778
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: and two thousand and three. So those other two guys

779
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: had longer, longer stints here in this in this entire

780
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: quarter century. So that made it a little bit easier

781
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: to eliminate Billy Wagner, who was still very very good.

782
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: If you were doing this, Tyler's there as we wrap

783
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: this up, is there one guy just that we have

784
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: talked about that you would say, he like, make whatever

785
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: roster move you want, like this, one guy has to

786
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: be on this team that's not on this team.

787
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: I'd be interested in your Well, I guess I wouldn't

788
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: be interested. I know the answer. Manager choice would have

789
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: to be Hinch right like that, that would have to

790
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: be the manager of the team.

791
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Man.

792
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: They had a lot of good players. Real quick on

793
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 3: brad Ledge, I just want to go, I said, peak. Okay,

794
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: Brad Leedge's peak. Well, first let me do Ryan Presley's peak.

795
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: So Ryan Presley in twenty nineteen through fifty four innings,

796
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: two hundred ra plus eleven point nine strikeouts per nine.

797
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: Unbelievable season, really really good. Brad Lidge in two thousand

798
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: and four, through ninety four innings with a two twenty

799
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: eight e RA plus and fourteen point nine strikeouts per

800
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: nine in two thousand and four, like crazy. He was

801
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: so good. So that's when I picture, like Pete guy

802
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: of like two thousand and four, Brad Lidge. You weren't

803
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: getting a hit off of him. He was going to

804
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: strike you out. So that's why I say, like game

805
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: on the line, which guy you're bringing in in their

806
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: he they're both awesome. I would I would bring in

807
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: Brad Ledge. There are there for me. There are a

808
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: lot of like uh, guys that obviously would not include

809
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: on this list, but are guys that I think of

810
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: from this quarter century. One of them is Brandon Backie.

811
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: Brandon Backy ruled man. He was a converted outfielder who

812
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: just came in. I'll never forget his playoff heroics, not

813
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: only pitching, but he had a pinch hit in the

814
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: playoffs because he was a converted outfielder. And I'll never

815
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: forget that he was awesome that year. I mean, he wasn't.

816
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: He wasn't actually awesome. I'm aware of that, but I

817
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: loved watching Brandon Backy pitch. That was That was one

818
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: I think of I mean we mentioned like Morgan Ensburg

819
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: was really really good for the Astros. I mean the

820
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: second base depth. We've gone forty five minutes. We don't

821
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: even mention. Jeff Kent was on the Astros. Yeah, was

822
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: awesome as well. Willie Taveres is another one that I

823
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: think of of a guy that, like just in in

824
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: the down years, was a guy like, oh, good, Willy

825
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: Tavares is coming up, we get to watch him. We

826
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: mentioned some relievers like Octavio Dotel was awesome.

827
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: He rest in peace.

828
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that that one. Really, that one's stun

829
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: for sure. Loved watching him pitch, Like Jose Valverdi had

830
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: a couple of great years for the Ash. Chad Qualls

831
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: was really good for the Astros for a long time.

832
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: He'll always be remembered for falling off the mound in Miami,

833
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: uh and in that gift of him like fist pumping

834
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: and then just tripping on the way back. But he

835
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: was a really good pitcher for the Astros. Yeah, I

836
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: mean that a lot of good players. I would be

837
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: interested to kind of see how this team stacks up

838
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: against the other quarters. Century was I never in a

839
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: million years if you had asked me in two thousand,

840
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: would the Astros be able to compete with any other

841
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: team at the quarter's injury Mark, I would have said no.

842
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: So it's interesting that they have had so many good players.

843
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean a good team. I thought you

844
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: did a really good job.

845
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: You're checks in the mail. Thank you for that, thank

846
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: you for that ring endorsement. I'm still kind of bummited

847
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: and get Richard can all go on this team?

848
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: Like I did not realize.

849
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: I did not realize how good he is. Also, Matt,

850
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: I didn't get Josh Reddick somewhere on this team. We

851
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: have to I think we're contractually obligated to say Josh

852
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: Reddick should be on this Cam Smith will be on

853
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: the next quarter center for.

854
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: Sure, he'll be on the All MLB Century team. He's

855
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 3: coming real quick. I also want to point this out

856
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: to you. Garrett Cole for the Astros through four hundred

857
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: and twelve innings, Brad Lidge through four hundred and one.

858
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: So you know that's why I say wandy over in

859
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: Garrett Cole, who through what thirteen thirteen hundred innings for

860
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: the Astros three times as many as Garrett Cole. But

861
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: that is just as much of a Brad ledge that

862
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: as it is a Garrit Cole's stat because again, he

863
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: threw ninety four innings after throwing eighty five his Rookie

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Speaker 3: of the Year his rookie year where he finished fifth

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Speaker 3: in the Rookie of the Year voting as a reliever

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Speaker 3: on a not great Astros team. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. Richard Adalgo was really good. Darryl

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Speaker 3: Ward had a really big home run on opening Day

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Speaker 3: against the Pirates one time. I'll always remember that. That

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Speaker 3: was fun.

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Speaker 2: Brad Peacock, come on, staff as baby, Shane Reynolds, let's

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Speaker 2: just Shane Reynolds man.

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Speaker 3: Shane Reynolds was awesome. Carlos Corporn great, I'm mad Dominguez,

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Speaker 3: come on, Johnny Grossman, Jonathan VR, Jonathan VR remember when

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Speaker 3: he's still home.

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Speaker 1: That was cool.

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Speaker 3: LJ hose LJ hose all time uniform zero. I mean,

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Speaker 3: come on. Also, that was hater came over in that

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Speaker 3: trade as well.

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Speaker 1: Right from Thinks, So yeah, from Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the hater and hose trade is an all time

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Speaker 3: like that that will be written about forever that there

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Speaker 3: was a trade for hater and hose. Uh for Astro's

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Speaker 3: legend Bud Norris, who also held it down for a while.

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Speaker 3: Budd Norris was trade if if the team were only

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Speaker 3: having to face the Cardinals in two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 3: I would want Budd Norris on the team.

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Speaker 2: Tony Ysaba, Let's just like remember when Kolbe Rasmus was

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Speaker 2: like the best hitter in baseball for a month and

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Speaker 2: two fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Like he took a qualifying offer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he taught the Asher's front officer lesson, like,

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Speaker 2: don't offer qualifying offers to players that may take them,

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00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: because they will. Yeah, but they have moved a Colby

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Speaker 2: Rasmus was such a good uh, such a good guy.

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Speaker 2: But uh just had too many outfielders to choose from.

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Speaker 2: Had to settle with Springer, Tucker and Altuve. Altuve will

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Speaker 2: probably be in the outfield this evening.

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Speaker 3: Michael Bourne. Michael Bourne Borne ruled, Uh, that dude was

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Speaker 3: fast hot.

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Speaker 2: Take Brian Bogusavik mm hmmm mm hmm at that one.

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Speaker 1: Grand slam that one time.

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Speaker 3: That was cool.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Jake Myers has a higher ward for the Astros

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Speaker 3: and Willie taveris Uh that's weird. Mike Lamb, Mike Lamb

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Speaker 3: was great. Uh loved watching him too.

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Speaker 1: Andy Pettitt, like Andy Pettitt was an Astro.

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Speaker 3: Dude, Andy, So Andy Pettitt would be higher up on

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Speaker 3: this list if he hadn't freaking checked his swing one

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Speaker 3: time and ripped his arm in half because he he

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Speaker 3: and Clemence came over at the same time. But he

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Speaker 3: missed most of his contract with the Astros because we

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Speaker 3: made pitchers hit back then for some reason, and he

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Speaker 3: like checked his swing and ripped his arm up, And

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Speaker 3: I'll always be mad about that. That rotation was great,

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Speaker 3: that two thousand and four, two thousand and five pitching staff.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, when you had Lydch's Hotel Wagner at

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Speaker 3: the end, it was Oswalt, Pettitt, Clemmens like that was

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Speaker 3: a good team. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a good team for East. Jeff Blum had

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Speaker 1: to ruin it, dude. I just hit a homer. Those

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Speaker 1: teams are Those teams are good. These teams have been better.

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Speaker 2: We will get to see that again tonight as the

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Speaker 2: Astros are going to play the Rays. Josel Tuva will

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Speaker 2: probably be in the outfield, just like he was on

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Speaker 2: the outfield on the All quarter Century team. Behind from

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Speaker 2: Erval does against a Raised team that cannot hit left

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Speaker 2: handed pitching. So if you are interested in maybe seeing

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Speaker 2: a no hitter, turn on the TV tonight at seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock because Frombervaldez could very well do it against a

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Speaker 2: Raised team that is not good against left handed pitch.

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Speaker 2: If he does throw a no hitter or if he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back at some point this weekend to recap

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Speaker 2: the Rays series and look ahead to the next road

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Speaker 2: trip to face Paul Skeens and the Pittsburgh Pirates before

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Speaker 2: they go to Cleveland and face the Guardians in a

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Speaker 2: three game set on the weekend. If you want to

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Speaker 2: read more about the All quarter Century team, you can

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Speaker 2: go to the Athletic and go to the Astros page

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Speaker 2: and it's right there. You can follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at Chandler Underscore. Rome can follow Tyler at Tyler c Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Please rate and review us on Apple. Please subscribe on

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Speaker 2: a new video, and we will talk to you guys soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Let me leave you with this. Brandon Backy and Esac

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Speaker 3: Parades have the same hitting war for the Astros. Back

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Speaker 3: Brandon Backy was a really good hitter. He's son parades

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Speaker 3: has been like, oh wow, okay, he's He's point two

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Speaker 3: behind Martin Maldonado for career hitting war for the Astros.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Backy was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Backy great, great, we'll get him up. We'll get

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Speaker 1: him as a guest on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Love that we can talk about all kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: Alright, alright, I see you.