1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to Big Fish Small Pod. I'm 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: at Wordal, the host here on Wednesdays and Fridays. As 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: we approach the end of this twenty twenty one season 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: for the Miami Marlins. That's the introduction. Just a deep 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: breath in an out. That's how this season has felt. Yesterday, 6 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: the twenty eighth, the Marlins played a doubleheader against the Mets. 7 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I like, yesterday I couldn't really like express why they 8 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: did it. I mean, I know that the season needs 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: to happen, and I guess that's the priority. But with 10 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: both teams out of contention and with a real like 11 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: it seems like a. 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: Toxic year up in New York. 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Jacob Graham, talking to media yesterday, referencing the fact that 14 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: he feels equally as disillusioned by the current ownership in 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: New York as he did with the past. Not really 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: a recipe for success when you look at the Mets season, 17 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: Just like as it played out. De Gram was amazing 18 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: at the start of the year and the Mets were 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: like relatively in it. Then they like kind of ascended 20 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: to like they were in first place for you know, 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: like most of the year, and it felt real. 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: They were like buyers at the deadline. 23 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: They added a hobby bias, but then they just like 24 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: fell off with de Graham's injury. 25 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: Season just. 26 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: The offense got into like a certain level, but it 27 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: just couldn't get past that loss. He's a critical person 28 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: for the Mets. It felt like yesterday was a day 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: of statements. De gram saying that Noahs Cindergard returning back 30 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: pitching the first time in two years. 31 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: The Mets made another statement with. 32 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: That plus whatever that was about like a live comedy at. 33 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: Like City Field or whatever. The reported. 34 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Developments that Steve Cohen is considering to make the New 35 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: York Mets more of a draw to a younger audience. 36 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: I think zoomers, I suppose, but it felt like out 37 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: of touch. The Marlins themselves played two games yesterday after 38 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: a season of like so there was some turmoil. Obviously, 39 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: expectations weren't met early in the year, owing in part 40 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: at least two like some like high leverage bullpen innings. 41 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: Moving on from that, which was like. 42 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: Kind of circling back to that. 43 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Actually what was with that in part at least is 44 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: that this was a bullpen just assembled like spur the moment, 45 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: just in the off season, just piece by piece added 46 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: to by like Kim Ang primarily focusing on that project 47 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: and doing a decent job, getting a lot of talent, 48 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: but not that like earth shattering dominant reliever that can 49 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: like win a game for you, which is what you 50 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: need in those high leverage moments if you're trying to 51 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: contend to make the World Series. The Marlins bullpen hadn't 52 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: like made it up to that like notch yet no 53 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: one was at that point early in the year. Some 54 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: pictures have continued to like develop in the minor leagues 55 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and show some potential. Zeus Lozardo is like the Marlins 56 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: added an incredibly talented pitcher in him. Edward Cabrera is 57 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: six do also really talented arms. Looking at twenty twenty two, 58 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: it feels like there's like an abundance of like club 59 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: controlled pitching talent that is at the major league level 60 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: that can potentially. 61 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Help with that high leverage bullpen spot. 62 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Even like Dylan Flora's been great, But that breath again 63 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: is just because it's been hard to concentrate on this 64 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: last month of the season as a you know, writer, 65 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: as a podcaster, as a I mean, it's hard to 66 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: say that I'm in any way an influencer of the sort. 67 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: Looking at like my. 68 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Like Twitter ratio is like, it's probably more that I've 69 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: been influenced by the Marlins and the sentiment about it 70 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: than I have influenced the sentiment about the Marlins. 71 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: It's like. 72 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I can't quite equate that and 73 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: get past that point about my contributions to this fan community. 74 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: But like. 75 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: Watching a team that like can't hit is like I don't, 76 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: you don't, I don't want to do it every day. 77 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm around, I know that, Like Yankee fans 78 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: were feeling similar things, Like a month ago before Gean 79 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: Carlos Stanton made before Gean Carlos Stanton really started to 80 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: like milk out his home runs the way you might 81 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: see well, I feel like, quite plainly the follower of 82 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Jazz in that regard the Marlins incredibly young offense hasn't 83 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: consistently put it together. They've showed the highs obviously, Jazz 84 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: has showed his talent. Jesus Sanchez last night with another 85 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: home run, bringing his like slugging percentage. He's like right 86 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: around where Adam Davall is on Like the slugging leaderboards, 87 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: looking at like fangrafts for players who have over two 88 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: hundred at bats in that like top sixty range with 89 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: literally Adam daval And, It's hard not to look at 90 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Jesus Sanchez and see an incredible athlete who will take 91 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: an off season and develop more, help his musculature, fit 92 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: better contact, and bring up that average, do the things 93 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: he needs to do to become a consistent every day 94 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: outfielder at the major league level. They're similar talent all around. 95 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: Like Brian de la Cruz looking at the team, listening 96 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to like Craig Mish yesterday their latest podcast, Swings and 97 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Mishes saying that, like Leyman Diaz, you can't really like 98 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: expect him to be anything more than like a seven 99 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: eight nine hitter. 100 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: I fully agree with that. I think that, like. 101 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. I think that that's like a 102 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: compliment to be in a starting lineup as an everyday hitter. 103 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: This Marlins team needs to hit in twenty twenty two. 104 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: They like have to. 105 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: They didn't this year, and that's the obvious area for growth. 106 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: We'll see what they do in the off season. Fully, myself, 107 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: last night, I just looked at the roster put together 108 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: what I think seems like a decent lineup, Like what 109 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: would be a good situation to look at opening day 110 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and see on the field, going with what the Marlins 111 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: currently have, assume, but they go for a center fielder 112 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: and a catcher, like they've said, using perhaps some of 113 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: the money from bally that deal, the lone depot deal, 114 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: some of the money saved the last couple months of 115 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: the offseason, you know, not like a lot, but that's 116 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: probably a couple of million. You can literally do the 117 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: math see what they saved on marteite fall. 118 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: Where they are now. 119 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: But this lineup, it's not like it doesn't need a lot. 120 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: When you start to look at the bottom of it, 121 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so east Lewin Diaz probably like your 122 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: ninth hitter, Brian Anderson, perhaps eighth, you're not necessarily sure 123 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: what contributions you're gonna get from that spot yet, But 124 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: then seventh, it's probably looking like a Brian de la Cruz, 125 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: a Garrett Cooper, whatever that like outfield spot is. If 126 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: there's like a DH I'm assuming there will be after 127 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: this collective bargaining, which will bring. 128 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Who knows what. 129 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: It's literally unprecedented time unprecedented times in the sport. I've 130 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: spent this time really trying to get around the fact 131 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: that the Marlins have now dropped seventh straight again for 132 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: the third time this year. In the doubleheader yesterday, Trevor 133 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Rodgers looked like good. I just want to note that. 134 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: But today the Marlins will face Taiwan Walker and the 135 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: New York Mets, bringing Eliezer Hernandez to the mound in 136 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: the contest, which will begin at seven to ten tonight. 137 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp are also back in action today during 138 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days off. They're facing the five last 139 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: games of the year. Still no starters announced, but be 140 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: on the lookout for Max Meyer for the podcast. 141 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: I've been at doll for my deep breathing. I've been 142 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: just in that state and yeah for fist stripes. 143 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: We'll be back on the podcast tomorrow with another episode 144 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: of Big Fish Small Pod featuring Daniel Rodriguez.