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Speaker 1: The Daily Poster. David Sirota, the founder and editor of

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Speaker 1: The Daily Poster. He joins us now. David it's good

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Speaker 1: to see you man. Thanks for joining us. Good thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. We've got a new piece that we

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Speaker 1: wanted to highlight here. Let's put it up there on

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Speaker 1: the screen, which is that the democracy crisis that is

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Speaker 1: never discussed. What is the argument you're trying to make here, David. Look,

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Speaker 1: we hear a lot about January sixth. We hear a

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Speaker 1: lot in the media about the Republican effort to restrict

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Speaker 1: voting rights in some of the states in the country.

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Speaker 1: What we don't hear a lot about in the discourse,

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Speaker 1: in the conversation is the other crisis that's humming underneath

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Speaker 1: the American politics, the other democracy crisis, which is what

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Speaker 1: people want versus what the government is actually doing. And

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Speaker 1: I think the Reconciliation Bill debate is almost a perfect

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Speaker 1: example of that. If you take a look at what

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Speaker 1: the Democrats in Congress have been cutting out of their

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Speaker 1: Reconciliation bill, it almost perfectly matches up with exactly what

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Speaker 1: the public is telling polsters it most wants out of

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Speaker 1: that bill. The best example of that is the most

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Speaker 1: popular potential initiative in the Reconciliation Bill is the proposal

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Speaker 1: to allow Medicare to finally be able to negotiate lower

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Speaker 1: drug prices across the board. That provision is the provision

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Speaker 1: that has been held up from being added into the bill.

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Speaker 1: It has been watered down, It was threatened to be

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Speaker 1: taken out for weeks and weeks and weeks. It was

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Speaker 1: ultimately a hollowed out. I mean, the provision that they're

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Speaker 1: now talking about putting in there is the most absolute

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Speaker 1: And if you go through all of the other things

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Speaker 1: what you see is it matches up almost almost perfectly

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Speaker 1: with exactly what the public says it wants, paid leave,

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Speaker 1: an expansion of Medicare. Look at taxes. Most of the

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Speaker 1: serious proposals, not all, but most of the serious proposals

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Speaker 1: to tax billionaires and the super rich have been watered

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Speaker 1: down or taken out of this bill. Even Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: pollsters have said that this is the single most popular

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Speaker 1: set of provisions taxing the wealthy out of all the

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Speaker 1: seeing here is the Reconciliation Bill debate is an almost

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Speaker 1: perfect example of how Congress is doing exactly the opposite

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Speaker 1: of what the public says it wants. And David, one

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Speaker 1: us this your take on this in the context of

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Speaker 1: what happened in Virginia. Sure, I mean, I think, look,

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Speaker 1: Guess what people are willing to vote for the other party.

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Speaker 1: And then, finally, David, you know, we've seen different developments

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Speaker 1: Let's be clear, a full repeal is probably the single

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Speaker 1: most of the benefits of a full repeal of that

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Speaker 1: And you've seen the Democrats from affluent blue state districts

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Speaker 1: too expensive, right, they're talking about spending four hundred, five hundred,

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Speaker 1: The way I see it working out is, Look, you've

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Speaker 1: So I think what you're going to end up seeing

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Speaker 1: is a raise of the cap, certain levels of income

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Speaker 1: where this is head. Well, well see how it all

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Speaker 1: shakes out, David. Really appreciate your reporting. Of course, we're

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Speaker 1: we have been following from the very beginning Senator Richard Burr.

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Speaker 1: You guys might recall he's the Republican senator from North Carolina. Well,

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Speaker 1: Senator Burr made quite a bit of a tidy little

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Speaker 1: was revealed that he had what was privy to non

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Speaker 1: in March of twenty twenty. Well, there's been some even

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Speaker 1: It's blatantly obviously he denies wrongdoing, etcetera. Sir. The SEC

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Speaker 1: Disgusting behavior. And of course this fits into a broader

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Speaker 1: were on the side of the boss, like routinely, in

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Speaker 1: spite of what he verbally said. Biden has promised to

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Speaker 1: be the most pro union president in history, most pro

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Speaker 1: we can't really, we can't really say anything about use,

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Speaker 1: we can't really get involved here, which is nonsense. And look,

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Speaker 1: the fact that it would be controversial, frankly, is a

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Speaker 1: good thing because that would generate coverage, it would generate buzz,

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Speaker 1: it would demonstrate who's on which side really, And one

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Speaker 1: of the things that's most vital in politics is exposing

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Speaker 1: the correct divisions. And so if Biden intervened on the

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Speaker 1: side of workers, when the workers are dramatically popular with

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Speaker 1: the public right now and dramatically in the right it

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Speaker 1: would expose a division in a way that would I

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Speaker 1: think be beneficial of the country but also would be

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Speaker 1: you know, politically beneficial to the Democratic Party. BUTDA and

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Speaker 1: they're not going to do that, apparently in all the

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Speaker 1: talk of the proact and whatever seems to fall by

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Speaker 1: the wayside. So there we are, so be it. It's

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Speaker 1: up to you, guys. That's that's all I can say.

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Speaker 1: It's up to all of you out there who are

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Speaker 1: taking these actions. We appreciate you guys. Have a good

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Speaker 1: one and we'll have more for you later. See you later.