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Speaker 2: get to our good buddy Ross Tucker Seaton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and put up there.
Speaker 4: What we were just talking about. What should Steph Curry do?
Speaker 3: Mmmm?
Speaker 4: He could do another year with the Warriors, he could
Speaker 4: look for another team, or he could just retire.
Speaker 2: What's his contract situation? Does he have two years left
Speaker 2: on his contract? I'd like to know what they're doing
Speaker 2: with Draymond Green and are they gonna stay with Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paulie, I have Steph Curry having one more year
Speaker 5: on contract at fifty nine million dollars.
Speaker 3: Okay, Celtics rolled the Knicks.
Speaker 2: They shot forty five percent from three point range, and
Speaker 2: if the Celtics do that, they're going to win.
Speaker 3: New York's still up three to two.
Speaker 2: The series now shifts to New York, where the Celtics
Speaker 2: are two and a half point underdogs.
Speaker 3: On Friday Night, Wow, the.
Speaker 2: Pressure on the Knicks, the Celtics, they can be free,
Speaker 2: they can be loose. If you don't win, well you
Speaker 2: didn't have your best player. But the Knicks in the
Speaker 2: garden and if you lose and it goes back to Boston,
Speaker 2: might be the final night for the Nuggets. The Thunder
Speaker 2: are four and a half point favorites in Denver with
Speaker 2: that game. So you have Game six coming up tonight
Speaker 2: Thunder and the Nuggets PGA championship underway in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's Quail Hollow And the NFL schedule was released last night,
Speaker 2: which means we make the smooth segue to Ross Tucker,
Speaker 2: CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football analyst, host of
Speaker 2: the Ross Tucker Football podcast, and he was also hosting
Speaker 2: Westwood ones Live NFL schedule release show last night. Ross,
Speaker 2: great to see you. What stood out from the schedule
Speaker 2: release last night?
Speaker 6: Well, I think the first thing that stood out to me,
Speaker 6: Dan is that Westwood one even has a schedule release
Speaker 6: show on the radio, and that they.
Speaker 7: Asked me to do it.
Speaker 6: I'm as curious as anybody to hear what the ratings
Speaker 6: are like for people hearing me talk about.
Speaker 7: The schedule that come out.
Speaker 8: It's really unbelievable the way Ross. It's kind of like
Speaker 8: this show. We don't want to know the numbers. It's
Speaker 8: just let us assume a lot of people are watching
Speaker 8: and listening.
Speaker 3: That's all. Don't get caught up at that.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's changed so much from when I was
Speaker 6: a player. But like the Today's Show and Good Morning America,
Speaker 6: they're like announcing these games during the NBA playoffs, which
Speaker 6: is hilarious.
Speaker 7: By the way, Happy Bird, I'm honored to be on
Speaker 7: during your birthday.
Speaker 6: Please don't talk about wings and a nice salum about
Speaker 6: to have like a yogurt parfe or something in my house.
Speaker 7: But you know, so it's so funny.
Speaker 6: Dan, as a former player, the first thing that jumped
Speaker 6: out to me about the schedule is the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: My mind is blown. Right now, they get four weekends off.
Speaker 6: Okay, they have four Thursday games all right now. Two
Speaker 6: of those are back to back, so they'll just have
Speaker 6: a regular week when they have them back to back,
Speaker 6: but they have a bye and then those other three
Speaker 6: Thursday games. If you're a player and you have a
Speaker 6: Thursday game, you get the weekend off. So you know,
Speaker 6: fans don't look at this as much as like a
Speaker 6: player does. But it used to be you only have
Speaker 6: one by week and maybe you get the weekend off,
Speaker 6: but the coach still might have you something to doing
Speaker 6: something on Friday. The Cowboys players having four weekends off
Speaker 6: during football season is like the crazy thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Okay, but do you think, like, why would the NFL
Speaker 3: do this?
Speaker 6: Well, because they want to put the Cowboys in as
Speaker 6: many standalone games as possible, not just.
Speaker 3: Gonna be good. The over under seven and a half wins.
Speaker 7: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 6: You know what, It doesn't matter that they care about
Speaker 6: the ratings.
Speaker 7: I literally just.
Speaker 6: Interviewed Mike North, the VP of broadcasting for the NFL,
Speaker 6: for the Ross Tucker Podcast, and I was really curious
Speaker 6: about Thanksgiving right the Thanksgiving Day game is Chiefs Cowboys.
Speaker 6: And my argument to Mike was, everybody watches the Thanksgiving
Speaker 6: game anyway.
Speaker 7: Like everybody.
Speaker 6: Do you know anybody that doesn't have the game on
Speaker 6: the TV on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Their point was, let's see if we can break records.
Speaker 7: Let's not just.
Speaker 6: Say hey, everybody's gonna watch anyway. We're gonna get thirty
Speaker 6: five million people. Let's see how far we can take
Speaker 6: this thing and push the limit. And the Chiefs and
Speaker 6: the Cowboys are easily the two highest rating teams in
Speaker 6: the NFL right now, which is why they put them
Speaker 6: together on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: The first thing that jumped out at me is the
Speaker 2: Steelers playing the Jets to open the season. And do
Speaker 2: you do this as just a oh, we didn't realize that,
Speaker 2: or is it Well, of course we're going to open
Speaker 2: up with this because Aaron Rodgers is going to play
Speaker 2: Week one for the Steelers.
Speaker 6: Well, at a minimum, they know that Justin Fields it's
Speaker 6: an awkward situation because he got benched last year. The
Speaker 6: Steelers tried to resign a this offseason. They wanted him
Speaker 6: when they couldn't get Matthew Stafford. They wanted to bring
Speaker 6: Fields back, but not enough. They didn't pay him enough,
Speaker 6: and Field's probably wasn't happy about getting benched.
Speaker 7: I don't blame him, so he goes to the Jets.
Speaker 6: So there's already a built in intrigue in storyline.
Speaker 3: I can't buy into the Justin Field storyline.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to watch I do like Justin
Speaker 2: but I'm not going, Oh man, this is payback time
Speaker 2: for Justin Fields against the Steelers.
Speaker 7: The Rogers thing.
Speaker 6: I think that they strongly suspect Rogers will play for
Speaker 6: the Steelers, and that obviously takes to another level, which
Speaker 6: I think brings up a really interesting point. At this point, Dan,
Speaker 6: why hasn't Aaron signed yet?
Speaker 7: Okay, you could.
Speaker 6: Have made the argument if he's gonna play, you could
Speaker 6: have made the argument he wanted to wait to see
Speaker 6: how the draft played out.
Speaker 7: Right, at this point.
Speaker 6: The only reasonable I'll say this, there's two reasonable arguments
Speaker 6: for why he hasn't signed yet.
Speaker 7: One is that you never know what happened.
Speaker 6: With other teams like Derek Carr and the Saints retiring,
Speaker 6: and theoretically that gives him another option. Or two, he
Speaker 6: doesn't want to take crap from people like me for
Speaker 6: not being at the offseason program.
Speaker 7: He doesn't want to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6: And may he does not want to do OTAs, he
Speaker 6: does not want to do mini camp.
Speaker 7: He's gonna wait as.
Speaker 6: Long as he can so he doesn't get criticism for that.
Speaker 7: I got news for you, Aaron. I'm gonna criticize you anyway.
Speaker 6: If you know you're gonna go to the Steelers and
Speaker 6: you're with a new team, a new offense with Arthur
Speaker 6: Smith all those other guys are out there with phase
Speaker 6: two of the offseason program right now. Don't tell me
Speaker 6: you're committed. Don't tell me you want to win games
Speaker 6: this year. Don't tell me it's a priority if you're
Speaker 6: not there working with your new teammates in your new offense.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out those some of these teams
Speaker 2: who are going to be in primetime, like the Dolphins, Well,
Speaker 2: the Dolphins have like five primetime games?
Speaker 3: Correct? Why?
Speaker 6: Dan, we're sharing a brain here. That was one of
Speaker 6: the things I was going to bring up. If you
Speaker 6: brought it up. The teams, I'm surprised. So the primetime
Speaker 6: games is the most interesting aspect of the schedule release
Speaker 6: because that's the NFL telling you who they think will
Speaker 6: be good or interesting and who they think won't. Right,
Speaker 6: So no primetime games for the Browns, Titans or Saints.
Speaker 6: Titans maybe the most interesting there since they just had
Speaker 6: the number one overall pick, who people already feel like
Speaker 6: got disrespected.
Speaker 7: But the Dolphins, I think the Chargers is interesting that
Speaker 7: they got five primetime games.
Speaker 6: The Falcons, the Atlanta Falcons, Okay, five primetime games?
Speaker 3: Why why?
Speaker 6: Like they're not even the favorite in the NFC South,
Speaker 6: which isn't a great division.
Speaker 7: The Bucks are, and then I think the Niners is interesting, right.
Speaker 6: The NFL is betting on a big comeback from the Niners.
Speaker 6: But I agree the Dolphins jumped out to me for sure.
Speaker 6: Among that group of teams, they all get five primetime games,
Speaker 6: where the Titans, Saints, and Browns get zero.
Speaker 2: You don't want to see the Browns in primetime, do you?
Speaker 2: Unless Shador Sanders is playing.
Speaker 7: I do want to see him.
Speaker 6: You know why, because I think it's gonna be Shador
Speaker 6: Sanders Dylan Gabriel starting.
Speaker 7: If you look at the trade they made week one.
Speaker 6: I don't know about Week one, but I think both
Speaker 6: of those kids are going to start a bunch of
Speaker 6: games this year so that the Browns find out what
Speaker 6: they have in them.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, but could you imagine this, Ross we're
Speaker 2: talking to Ross Tucker. Okay, what if Shadoor Sanders ends
Speaker 2: up starting for the Browns and Aaron Rodgers doesn't play
Speaker 2: for the Steelers and they have Mason Rudolph and they
Speaker 2: decided to pass on Shadoor Sanders. I think shoud Or
Speaker 2: Sanders is going to play he's going to start games
Speaker 2: this year for the Browns. But Pittsburgh we thought was
Speaker 2: going to take him and they passed on him. Well,
Speaker 2: you know everybody did, but that to me, could you
Speaker 2: imagine if he starts for the Browns and let's say
Speaker 2: he is good, you have Mason Rudolph and you decided
Speaker 2: to pass on Shador Sanders. How do you think that's
Speaker 2: going to go over in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 6: Not real Well, especially when they could have taken him
Speaker 6: with that third round pick.
Speaker 7: You know you can argue, Okay, he's not worth the
Speaker 7: first rounder.
Speaker 6: They didn't have a second rounder when they passed on
Speaker 6: him in the third round. I was floored because he
Speaker 6: had this great meeting with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7: By the way, Mike Tomlin evidently has a lot of
Speaker 7: great meetings. He had a great meeting with Theirs. He
Speaker 7: had a terrific meeting with Sador Sanders.
Speaker 6: You know what the problem is, neither one of those
Speaker 6: guys played for the Steelers.
Speaker 7: Well, it's the meeting for.
Speaker 2: All surgeries are successful surgeries on athletes, right, All Mike
Speaker 2: Tomlin interviews are great interviews. You know, the only team
Speaker 2: that we've heard, like the Giants, didn't have a good
Speaker 2: interview with shaidor Sanders like that came out and everybody
Speaker 2: criticized the reporters say, hey, you know, put a name
Speaker 2: to this, and you know whatever, They didn't have a
Speaker 2: good meeting with Shador Sanders. But I do think he's
Speaker 2: going to start games for them, and uh, I think
Speaker 2: that that's going to be an interesting storyline no prime
Speaker 2: time games. I don't know if there's any flex in
Speaker 2: at any point during the season where you go, you
Speaker 2: don't let's take the Cleveland Browns because of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3: I would do that.
Speaker 7: I totally agree.
Speaker 6: Let's look at this logically, right if you think about
Speaker 6: what the Browns did with the Travis Hunter trade and
Speaker 6: getting the Jaguars first round pick in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 6: they clearly, I think, realize they don't have a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6: They need to try to find one. And what I
Speaker 6: would argue is why does it make sense. I mean,
Speaker 6: maybe they'll do it for a couple games, but does
Speaker 6: it make sense to start Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett
Speaker 6: this year?
Speaker 7: The Browns are not going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: They're highly unlikely to even go to the playoffs. I
Speaker 6: think that they took Gabriel and then in particular Shador Sanders.
Speaker 7: I think they thought it was value. I think it's
Speaker 7: a couple of lottery tickets.
Speaker 6: Let both these guys start five or six games this year.
Speaker 6: Maybe we hit on one of them, maybe one of them
Speaker 6: is the starter, and then we can use those two
Speaker 6: first round picks next year to make the team better
Speaker 6: around him.
Speaker 7: If not, no harm, no foul.
Speaker 6: We'll get our franchise quarterback next year with these two
Speaker 6: first round picks in a draft that's considered to be
Speaker 6: much better at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: Would you rather watch Travis Hunter play or should or
Speaker 2: Sanders play?
Speaker 6: Ooh, I'm gonna say Travis Hunter. I think I'm curious
Speaker 6: about Shador just like everybody else's.
Speaker 7: But I'm fascinated by Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6: I told you last time I was on I think
Speaker 6: he's the best college football player I've ever seen, and
Speaker 6: I just want to see him play both ways, see
Speaker 6: how well it goes, and see what he is on
Speaker 6: both sides of the ball, and if it makes sense,
Speaker 6: like if he's an above average starter on both sides
Speaker 6: and he's playing a lot of snaps, does that make sense?
Speaker 6: Or would you rather have him try to specialize in
Speaker 6: one and be elite because average starters get one sound,
Speaker 6: Elite players or above average starters get one salary.
Speaker 7: Elite players get paid a lot more.
Speaker 6: This is We've never seen it before and I'm fascinating
Speaker 6: to see how it plays out.
Speaker 3: Great to see you. Thank you, Ross.
Speaker 7: Always, Happy birthday man. Thank you ver so much for
Speaker 7: having me.
Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He
Speaker 2: also calls games for CBS Westwood.
Speaker 3: One at Birthday Man. He's always in a good mood.
Speaker 2: He is energy, always in a good mood. He's sort
Speaker 2: of a grown up version of Russell in the movie Up.
Speaker 2: He's just in a good mood. Always great dude man. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: really yes, he's in a great reaction to our audience.
Speaker 2: When Ross is all right, well take a break. Jason Kidd,
Speaker 2: the Mavericks head coach, will join us. Coming up next year.
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Speaker 13: I agree with Seaton on this Aaron Rodgers thing. I
Speaker 13: personally think that if you were considering playing again post
Speaker 13: retirement or this is I'm joint to retirement playing again,
Speaker 13: and you figured out that the person that screwed you
Speaker 13: over is your Week one opponent, then that's going to
Speaker 13: make you want to play even more.
Speaker 3: I don't think that.
Speaker 13: I don't think the Steelers have really much to do
Speaker 13: with it, but I think Aaron, knowing that he could
Speaker 13: play the Jets Week one, gets him a little more
Speaker 13: off the couch. Oh.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Aaron like he's going to come
Speaker 2: back just because he wants to prove the Jets wrong
Speaker 2: and you're going to face them week one. I just
Speaker 2: find it highly coincidental then that we're going to make
Speaker 2: this about justin fields getting back at the Steelers. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're going to play each other, we know that, but
Speaker 2: to lead off this season with them, that's just what
Speaker 2: If you said it was week seven, then I'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have read anything into it. But week one,
Speaker 2: it just fel you know, in the NFL manipulates the schedule.
Speaker 2: They decide who's in prime time, they decide who's going
Speaker 2: to be overseas, So why wouldn't you manipulate this if
Speaker 2: you thought you were you could do it for the
Speaker 2: right reasons. And that is Aaron Rodgers playing for the
Speaker 2: Steelers against the Jets. That's the only thing I thought of.
Speaker 2: And like, Miami's got five prime time games. I don't
Speaker 2: know why, but they win eight games last year and
Speaker 2: this is a make or break season. It feels like
Speaker 2: for the head coach, the quarterback probably throw in Tyreek
Speaker 2: Hill as well. This might be last call when you
Speaker 2: think about what they've done trying to do. Buffalo is
Speaker 2: still great.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Watching Miami, Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5: Didn't you think going into the draft or after the
Speaker 5: draft that ty Kill would be shipped?
Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: It almost felt like he wanted to be And then
Speaker 2: he sends out these cryptic messages or emojis, and then
Speaker 2: you're like, OK, I don't know what he's saying. You know,
Speaker 2: the King of emojis. I don't know what he's saying
Speaker 2: in his emojis. But it felt like he wanted to
Speaker 2: get out before everybody wanted to get out. But I
Speaker 2: think this is this is one of those years for
Speaker 2: Tua stay healthy and make the playoffs, and Mike McDaniel,
Speaker 2: you're probably a make or break year for your head
Speaker 2: coach as well. What's Tyreek thirty one?
Speaker 5: He's thirty one. Last year in seventeen games, eighty one
Speaker 5: catches just less than a thousand yards, which for anyone
Speaker 5: else would be great, but the year before he had
Speaker 5: one hundred and nineteen catches for eighteen hundred yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't healthy last year, but yeah, there's certain
Speaker 2: certain teams where and people have this twisted a little bit.
Speaker 3: With the Commanders. I love the story.
Speaker 2: I just have to be honest when I see what
Speaker 2: they did and how they won what six or seven
Speaker 2: games in their last possession, the odds are not going
Speaker 2: to be with you, and your schedule will be a
Speaker 2: little more demanding, and now you're not sneaking up on people.
Speaker 3: That's another thing, you know.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we have that team where they surprise you and
Speaker 2: then you go, oh, make way, they're going to go
Speaker 2: up even higher, and then they take a step back.
Speaker 2: I've just seen it too many times. But I'm in
Speaker 2: no way rooting against them. I think it's a wonderful story.
Speaker 2: They're going to host the draft. You know in a
Speaker 2: couple of years. You've got a great quarterback, I like
Speaker 2: the coach. You've got an ownership that you can respect.
Speaker 2: They're going to have a new stadium downtown. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of momentum going on there. And that's great because
Speaker 2: having been there when they had the Hogs and Joe thisman,
Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs, I mean I got to see RFK. That
Speaker 2: place rocked. It was in a great stadium, but that
Speaker 2: atmosphere was wonderful, wonderful one of my favorite venues to
Speaker 2: be and it's the atmosphere. It's not necessarily the amenities.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not walking around going hey what do
Speaker 2: they have on tap here? I'm just looking at what
Speaker 2: a football atmosphere is like. And RFK Stadium is up
Speaker 2: there with any of the other stadiums that you want
Speaker 2: to put them up against. Do you want to update
Speaker 2: the poll results? Their seat and we'll get to Jason
Speaker 2: Kidd coming up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got up there right now? What should Steph
Speaker 4: Curry do?
Speaker 14: Stay with the Warriors, sign a deal elsewhere or retire
Speaker 14: right now? Fifty nine percent of the audience have him
Speaker 14: staying with the Warriors, followed by signadilla elsewhere. Only seventeen
Speaker 14: percent have him retirem Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, the Cowboys got a lot of love last night,
Speaker 2: because the Cowboys always do. The Cowboys are the first
Speaker 2: team in NFL history to play six consecutive games against
Speaker 2: teams that won at least eleven games the previous season.
Speaker 2: So weeks twelve through seventeen, they got Philly, Casey, Detroit, Minnesota,
Speaker 2: the Rams, and Washington.
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Speaker 2: And you also have primetime games, but you also have
Speaker 2: standalone games. The Chiefs and the Cowboys and the Commanders
Speaker 2: have eight standalone games this season, tied for most in
Speaker 2: the NFL. So standalone could be Monday night, Sunday night,
Speaker 2: Thursday night, Saturday game, international game. The Cowboys have at
Speaker 2: least seven standalone games eight times in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: That's staying power.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have had seven or more standalone games four
Speaker 2: times over that same span as well. The Chiefs and
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, the networks love them. Travis Kelcey was asked
Speaker 2: about playing overseas and uh, it didn't sound too excited.
Speaker 2: Although I saw Kelsey he dropped twenty five pounds. And
Speaker 2: he was asked about playing in Brazil on his New
Speaker 2: Heights podcast.
Speaker 15: I mean I'll be there, not to do a podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 15: I'll be there pretty busy in the heat. There's just
Speaker 15: something about getting closer to the equator that I don't
Speaker 15: want to put on football uniform doing.
Speaker 11: That, especially in September.
Speaker 15: I've been in Jacksonville in September and that's miserable. I'd
Speaker 15: rather be dry than humid. I'm a sweaty I like
Speaker 15: when I'm definitely.
Speaker 11: Water around South Polo. But I think it's rivers or
Speaker 11: something like that.
Speaker 15: Right, Yeah, No, I'm if it's hot and humid and
Speaker 15: kind of what I'm expecting, I'm going to be miserable,
Speaker 15: but we're going to find a way to get a win.
Speaker 2: I like Jason Kelcey give me geography lessons on South Paulow.
Speaker 2: There are rivers around there or something, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so. They're like hip meatheads, Yeah, very rich
Speaker 2: hip meatheads. We'll take a break. We'll talk to Jason
Speaker 2: Kidd when we return here on The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 3: More phone calls coming up.
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Speaker 2: hour joining us now Hall of famer Jason Kidd, mAbs
Speaker 2: head coach and won an NBA championship with the Maps
Speaker 2: back in twenty eleven. Two time Olympic gold medalist. We
Speaker 2: were just wondering where do you rank on the all
Speaker 2: time assist list. Let's go around the room and guess
Speaker 2: where is Jay Kidd on the all time list?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 2: Todd third, third, Okay, Seaton two, Marvin third, Paul two.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go four. Where is Jay Kidd on
Speaker 2: the all time assists list?
Speaker 5: Stocked number one? Chris Paul new number two spot, Jason
Speaker 5: Kidd in a three spot? Lebron James on his heels?
Speaker 3: Is Lebron going to catch j kibs?
Speaker 5: He's got five hundred and eight to go.
Speaker 2: Man, you're getting kicked. You're getting kicked down here? Man,
Speaker 2: how are you doing?
Speaker 11: I'm doing great, Dan, I'm doing great. Yes, that happens.
Speaker 11: I didn't play long enough.
Speaker 2: Best passer though, in the history of the game, is
Speaker 2: who not who had the most assists?
Speaker 3: Best passer?
Speaker 11: Best passer. I'm gonna go with Stockton. Why is I
Speaker 11: think you know the bounce pass he had, big hands,
Speaker 11: could take it off the dribble, could pause with it.
Speaker 11: Some would say is maybe double dribble. But I think
Speaker 11: he knew how to manipulate the ball off the dribble
Speaker 11: and being able to find his target, and he has
Speaker 11: some pretty good targets.
Speaker 2: Okay, but when did carrying become legal in the NBA?
Speaker 11: In nineteen sixty sixty. Well, it's always been a part
Speaker 11: of the game.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, like now it's just you can have
Speaker 2: your hand on the bottom of the ball and then
Speaker 2: go Was it Iverson who started it?
Speaker 11: I don't think it was Iverson. I think it's the
Speaker 11: guy we were just talking about.
Speaker 3: Was the first guy to carry the ball.
Speaker 11: I think if you look at Stockton, he knew how
Speaker 11: to manipulate the driven.
Speaker 3: Was he dirty?
Speaker 11: He was smart?
Speaker 3: Where were you on Lottery night?
Speaker 11: Lottery night? I was in Newport Beach at a board
Speaker 11: meeting for Gold Rental and I thought, okay, well we're
Speaker 11: going to probably fall backwards instead of going forward. So
Speaker 11: my phone started to go crazy during the meeting, and
Speaker 11: I kept texting the person back saying are you sure
Speaker 11: it's not you're missing a one? Because he goes, you're
Speaker 11: in the top four and I mean fourteen and he
Speaker 11: goes no, and he goes, I think you just got one.
Speaker 11: I go, you mean we stayed at eleven and uh,
Speaker 11: And then my phone started going crazy.
Speaker 3: So that's where I was, Wait, you're not even watching
Speaker 3: the lottery.
Speaker 11: I you know, things just weren't going well for us.
Speaker 3: Really, what else has happened this year, a lot.
Speaker 11: Of injuries, a lot of inies, but I just felt,
Speaker 11: you know, we were going to stay around eleven, if
Speaker 11: not go backwards, just the way that things were going
Speaker 11: for us this year. But incredible to get number one.
Speaker 11: Everyone's excited, the organization, the city, the MAVs fans, and
Speaker 11: also the head coach. So we're really excited about being
Speaker 11: number one.
Speaker 3: Planning on keeping the pick and taking Cooper Flag.
Speaker 11: Yes, I'm just the coach, So yes, I would say
Speaker 11: that we're all concentrating on number one. The draft is
Speaker 11: deep and so, but as the name you just brought up,
Speaker 11: I think we're all focused.
Speaker 3: On Have you spoken to Cooper Flag.
Speaker 11: I have not spoken to Cooper Flag. I don't want
Speaker 11: to break any of the rules and get us in trouble,
Speaker 11: so I want to make sure that when I do
Speaker 11: answer these questions that you know the speculation is is
Speaker 11: Cooper Flag. But there's you know, we got to go
Speaker 11: through the process.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you would get in trouble if you did
Speaker 2: reach out to Cooper Flag before the draft?
Speaker 11: Yeah, well no, not not technically. Once we bring him in,
Speaker 11: we'll get out his name. I would. I'm trying to
Speaker 11: be politically correct here and make sure that we don't
Speaker 11: get in trouble and I don't step on any toes.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the kid from Duke there we go. Are
Speaker 3: you are?
Speaker 11: You're excited? We're excited.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get you fined. Okay, thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 11: I can't afford the fine. And so we're excited about
Speaker 11: the kid at Duke. I can't wait to talk to
Speaker 11: the coach over there, coach Shire and also a good
Speaker 11: friend of mine, coach k a mentor, and get some
Speaker 11: background on the kid at Duke. We're really excited about
Speaker 11: this opportunity.
Speaker 2: You were twenty one as a rookie. I can't imagine
Speaker 2: what nineteen is going to be like for the kids
Speaker 2: from Duke. How is that different or has the game
Speaker 2: made it easier for that transition for somebody that young.
Speaker 11: No, I don't know if it's easier. I think eighteen,
Speaker 11: he's going to be drafted. He'll be eighteen and doesn't
Speaker 11: turn nineteen until December, and so just understanding he's young,
Speaker 11: but he's very talented, can play both ends, and so
Speaker 11: being able to have older players and when I say
Speaker 11: that out of respect, they're not dinosaurs. But when you
Speaker 11: look at the age kai ad guys that are here,
Speaker 11: Clay can definitely help him with the process of going
Speaker 11: through a rookie season.
Speaker 2: And the kid from Duke doesn't have to walk in
Speaker 2: and be the savior like he probably would have been
Speaker 2: in Washington, DC or maybe Charlotte. That you can kind
Speaker 2: of ease him in to being a third or fourth
Speaker 2: option on the team.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think this is a great situation for him.
Speaker 11: I think when you talk about the different guys that
Speaker 11: we have already on the team, the pressure of living
Speaker 11: up to number one will be a lot easier with
Speaker 11: the talent around him. When you talk about the other clubs,
Speaker 11: he would have to, you know, produce right away at
Speaker 11: a high, high level. And so I think this is
Speaker 11: a great situation for him to grow his game where
Speaker 11: the pressure isn't as high, but we are playing for
Speaker 11: a championship and so it would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer, Mavericks head coach. How were
Speaker 2: you told that you had just traded Luca?
Speaker 11: I was told by my boss Nico that we were
Speaker 11: going to make a change.
Speaker 3: But where where give me the give me this scenario.
Speaker 11: Hotel, This is in the hotel in Cleveland, and so
Speaker 11: he said the news was going to hit in an
Speaker 11: hour and and that's how it went down. And so, uh,
Speaker 11: when he told me, I started, I went back to
Speaker 11: my room to start figuring out how we're going to
Speaker 11: use a d and Christy because of this change.
Speaker 2: And so so you found out you didn't even get
Speaker 2: a chance to argue.
Speaker 11: No, there was there's no arguing. This is this is
Speaker 11: what was going to take place. And so uh, for me,
Speaker 11: it's to to move forward from past experiences as a player.
Speaker 11: I've been traded the day after Christmas, I think from Dallas,
Speaker 11: uh to Phoenix and thinking they were trading uh Jimmy
Speaker 11: or Jamal and they told me that they were trading
Speaker 11: me and so and so just understanding that the train
Speaker 11: keeps moving. And I thought my players and my coaching
Speaker 11: staff did an incredible job with you know, once they
Speaker 11: heard the news of preparing to keep moving forward and
Speaker 11: and especially with all the trade and the injuries, I
Speaker 11: thought we did an incredible job.
Speaker 3: When's the last time you spoke to Luca?
Speaker 11: I texted him on that morning, Uh, and that's the
Speaker 11: last time I've talked to him.
Speaker 3: How did he respond? To your text.
Speaker 11: I don't think he was too happy, and just again
Speaker 11: from the experience of being traded, you know, maybe being surprised,
Speaker 11: you know, upset feelings are high. But again, I loved
Speaker 11: the opportunity of coaching Luca. He's an incredible person and
Speaker 11: we all know his talent is one of the best
Speaker 11: in the world. And so you know, again my mindset
Speaker 11: is to deal with the cars that I'm dealt and
Speaker 11: uh and keep pushing forward. And I've always said this
Speaker 11: publicly and probably I wish Luca the best. He's one
Speaker 11: of the best players in the world.
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say that you meet
Speaker 2: with Nico in his hotel room, he tells you he's
Speaker 2: trading Luca, and then you go back to your hotel
Speaker 2: room and cry.
Speaker 3: But but but that didn't happen, right.
Speaker 11: I didn't cry. I was more or less trying to
Speaker 11: figure out how we're going to make this thing work.
Speaker 11: You know, this is a big trade.
Speaker 2: But who do you call first after Nico tells you
Speaker 2: that you're trading Luca.
Speaker 11: I didn't call anybody. I put my phone down and
Speaker 11: looked at the ceiling. I started trying to brainstorm of
Speaker 11: how this is going to go down. I did not
Speaker 11: call anybody once this hit, and my my job as
Speaker 11: the coaches is to make sure that we all are
Speaker 11: pushing in the right direction. There was gonna be a
Speaker 11: lot of questions that morning from staff and players, and
Speaker 11: I thought Nico did a great job of handling it
Speaker 11: by having the meeting and us pushing forward.
Speaker 3: Anybody have a better handle than Kyrie in that in NBA.
Speaker 16: History, Oh, I'm gonna say no, But I'm gonna say
Speaker 16: there's some close seconds when you talk about Isaiah Thomas Detroit, Isaiah.
Speaker 3: Thomas underrated by the way.
Speaker 11: Very underrated, very underrated. Why I think sometimes it's it's
Speaker 11: our fault we don't we don't bring up Isaiah Jay
Speaker 11: Williams White Chocolate. I thought his handle and his passing
Speaker 11: is incredible storytelling. I don't know if we we don't
Speaker 11: do a good, good enough job of storytelling with Isaiah
Speaker 11: or our past uh players, And so I think Isaiah
Speaker 11: would be right there as one b.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think with isaiah likability, the way they played,
Speaker 2: they were the bad boys, you know, they were trying
Speaker 2: to hurt Jordan, and I think that maybe that plays
Speaker 2: into it with Isaiah.
Speaker 11: Well, I don't know if they were just trying to
Speaker 11: hurt Jordan. They were trying to hurt everybody.
Speaker 2: But if the Pistons don't treat Michael that way, Michael
Speaker 2: doesn't start weightlifting, and like that made Michael even greater.
Speaker 2: They're responsible for unleashing, you know, the new and improved
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think. You know, sometimes when we look at
Speaker 11: things that take place in our league, some are looked
Speaker 11: upon as negatives, but a lot of players or coaches
Speaker 11: use them as positives and try to turn it into something.
Speaker 11: And as you said, unleashes the beast and Michael and
Speaker 11: he took that and ran with it, got stronger. His
Speaker 11: game was, his talent was already elite, and so I
Speaker 11: think he used that as motivation to become the best
Speaker 11: in the world.
Speaker 17: Do you remember facing him the first time? Yes, Oh
Speaker 17: what happened now? It was actually nice. He was nice
Speaker 17: to me. I'll never forget I ended up on him. Unfortunately,
Speaker 17: I didn't know how the switch happened, but he asked
Speaker 17: me in the post, and all I can think about
Speaker 17: is just turn around and fade away and keep it
Speaker 17: simple and nice. But he went baseline and he took
Speaker 17: off and unfortunately my wife I didn't. I missed it,
Speaker 17: and I was like, oh, this is going to be
Speaker 17: on ESPN, and he's gonna dunk it and look and
Speaker 17: you know, do what he does. But he just did
Speaker 17: a nice little reverse layup and looked and kind of winked,
Speaker 17: and I say, oh, man, I'm glad he'd dunk it.
Speaker 11: But he took it easy on me.
Speaker 3: But why did you realize he was better than you?
Speaker 11: Oh before tip off?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you guys have egos.
Speaker 2: I mean, like Larry Bird had to get to a
Speaker 2: point where he said, you know what, he's the best
Speaker 2: player in the game. My magic had to you. You're,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty tough when you're going to relinquish something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I think we all understood when we we
Speaker 11: have to be realistic understanding Michael is the best. And
Speaker 11: so coming in as a rookie, you know you wanted
Speaker 11: that challenge, you wanted to compete against the best, but
Speaker 11: understanding he was going to win majority of those battles,
Speaker 11: and and he did, and and so you couldn't wait
Speaker 11: for that game to be over so that you can
Speaker 11: go play else that you can take a stuff.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll write a book on this year for the
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks one day, just this year of everything that's happened,
Speaker 2: because hard to believe, right, Yeah.
Speaker 11: I think you're right.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 11: I think there's someone's gonna write a book.
Speaker 3: Or thirty for thirty on ESPN.
Speaker 11: It could be a thirty for thirty for sure. There's
Speaker 11: enough content, you know there when you talk about just
Speaker 11: there was you know, a season within a season and
Speaker 11: there's maybe three seasons just with the trade and with
Speaker 11: all the injuries that we had, trying to keep you know,
Speaker 11: pushing forward and finding a way into the playing game
Speaker 11: and winning one and unfortunately coming up short against Memphis,
Speaker 11: but just everything that took place. I think there is
Speaker 11: a book there and then probably at thirty for thirty.
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you again. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 11: Happy birthday, Thank you, thank you. You look great man.
Speaker 3: What did you get me?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 11: I was going to say a jump shot, but you
Speaker 11: already believe that you can shoot.
Speaker 2: So well, now we don't. We don't want to go
Speaker 2: down the road, do we. We don't want to go
Speaker 2: down memory lane? Because do we?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Why not? It's your birthday?
Speaker 2: You I go to Dallas to shoot against you, right, yes,
Speaker 2: I come to down, I fly to Dallas to play,
Speaker 2: you know you in a game of horse. Yes, And
Speaker 2: what happened after practice? Who went home and left me
Speaker 2: there out shooting by myself?
Speaker 3: You did well?
Speaker 11: You I forfeited, so you are okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then all of a sudden, who becomes a
Speaker 3: great three point shooter?
Speaker 10: You do?
Speaker 11: Yeah, you turned me into a great three point shooter?
Speaker 11: So you get credit. I'm giving you credit. Where's doing
Speaker 11: you turn me into a three point shooter?
Speaker 2: You're welcome, You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome, So I
Speaker 2: don't need a jump shot.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 3: Maybe what hudder driver? How about this?
Speaker 2: How about a autograph jersey from the kid from Duke?
Speaker 11: Oh done?
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go easy, just making dreams come true?
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bud. That's Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I told you, guys, the story. I told you the story.
Speaker 2: I went to Dallas. We had a great relationship, and
Speaker 2: I say that I will beat you in a shooting contest.
Speaker 2: And I'm there in the stands waiting for practice to end,
Speaker 2: and I'm waiting it ends, and I'm going, where's Jason
Speaker 2: the clubhouse guy? Goes, oh, he left, and I go
Speaker 2: he left, and uh, he admitted he didn't he knew.
Speaker 3: That I could shoot there. He is right there. He
Speaker 3: just came back. He wants to.
Speaker 2: He knows it's true. He knows it's true. Jay Kidd
Speaker 2: appearance there, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: Like, what'd you get me for my birthday? He's like, well,
Speaker 4: you got a jumper or whatever?
Speaker 14: And then he kind of like gives you credit for
Speaker 14: his three point takabilly as the gift.
Speaker 4: He're like, you know what else you could get me?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, I should take credit helping you
Speaker 2: and Brook Lopez. I made you guys great three point shooters. Oh,
Speaker 2: final hour on the way. You know it's my birthday today, birthday.
Speaker 11: I have a good time.