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Speaker 1: by the ancestors buried beside the sanctuary light. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 1: A great book Isabelle Wilkerson, And maybe I brought up

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Speaker 1: that chapter specifically because it mentions Juneteenth, and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: like people keep saying stuff where like, well, June teens

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Speaker 3: That's when you know this this holiday is official when

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want to be like President's Day, Memorial Day,

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna do nothing, do nothing, you're gonna sleep,

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Speaker 3: But I am glad that I got to live to

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Speaker 2: can do because of you. I know we joke about

433
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: how y'all keep the bowl to float, but that's a

434
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 2: true statement.

435
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: So thank you and Yeah. I walked somebody through customer

436
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: service this week. They was like, I explain this to me,

437
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: like I'm a five year old, and I'm like, you

438
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: know what, I will. Let's do it, and you know,

439
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I've seen the tweets, I've seen

440
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: the screenshots. You don't have to worry about me flexing

441
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: on you as a as a black business owner. Okay,

442
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: I've seen what some of these people is doing out here.

443
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: I promise I'm not.

444
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 3: It's not like that, right.

445
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like people are scared, right.

446
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: That's what I said. Sometimes I think people are frightened.

447
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they'll write me like I'm so sorry I

448
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out, Like no, no, no, no, no, no,

449
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: that's not how this works, you know, Like, let's as

450
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: long as long as they're not mean to me or nothing,

451
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: and no one ever has been like, let's work it out,

452
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: like woo. I want you to have all the goodness

453
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: of a premium membership that everyone else has, so all right,

454
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: now we can get it to it all right. Comments

455
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: on the episodes. We had twenty one twenty one write

456
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: a check on your black friend to your black friends.

457
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: That was a feedback episode Brooklyn, Shoe Babe says, I

458
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: vaguely remember the heroin attict as I was born in

459
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. Many of the Vietnam vest that returned

460
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: to my Brooklyn neighborhood were addicted. I would hear my

461
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: grandmother and her best friend, or my mom and her

462
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 1: brother and sister talk about former classmates and friends being

463
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: strung out. When the anti drug cops started coming to

464
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: my school in eighty two, they weren't talking about crack.

465
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: They were talking about heroin, weed, acid and pills, downers

466
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: and uppers. They showed us pictures of collapse noses and

467
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: infected arms from addic searching for veins. I remember advertisements

468
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: that Warren, New Yorkers to not wear their gold jury

469
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: on the train during the summer or tentuck in chains

470
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: because the chain snatchers was a big crime and those

471
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: chain snatchers were usually addicts. Yeah, I remember those pictures too,

472
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: not of the drug addicts. But that was like part

473
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: of education for kids in sex ed and in the

474
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: driver's class down South at least, where it was always

475
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: like and now there's one special class where we show

476
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: you everything that can go wrong. Yeah, here is herpes

477
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: close up okay, all over their face and they dick okay.

478
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: Right, you'd be like, oh my god, what is happening.

479
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, when we got in sex at this is

480
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: not the way I wanted to see anybody's or organs. Okay,

481
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: I when y'all put you know we're gonna be looking

482
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: at vagina's on the cover, I thought of some something

483
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: totally different. I don't want the first dick I ever

484
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: saw to be syphilists infected. Come on, but yeah, so

485
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: they I can imagine that too, with their and all

486
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: that stuff. Them trying that shock value to scare you

487
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: out of drugs. Like, look at the work so far, right,

488
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: just drugs is good to people?

489
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: I know it's sex.

490
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: By nineteen eighty four, when NYC started, Yeah, that's what

491
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, was like, how good must sex be? There?

492
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: You willing to risk bubbles all over your dick? It

493
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: must be the shit. Oh my god, I gotta get

494
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: some of the sex. By nineteen eighty four, when NYC

495
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: started tackling the a's epidemic, it was all about the

496
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: needle exchange programs and kindom use. There were PSA's about

497
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: cleansing needles with bleach and not sharing needles to prevent

498
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: the spread of a's. But by the time I started

499
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: high school in nineteen eighty six, crack was keen. Okay.

500
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: One more comment, this time regarding men in period products.

501
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: I think women passed on period shame to their daughters

502
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: and in their lives. If not women, just society in general.

503
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: Why is the special school assembly about periods only for girls?

504
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: From the beginning? Boys are tied to period info aren't

505
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: for them, and they just absorbed societal mynths and misogyny

506
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: about it. I remember the message I got earlier, often

507
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: as teen. As a teen was to hide that you

508
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: had your period powders, to hide the smell pantyhose under

509
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: the pants, to make sure no what could tell you

510
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: were wearing the pad, etc. I remember my period started

511
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: once while I was having sex with my boyfriend, the

512
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: man I went on to marry. I was nineteen and

513
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: mortified because he popped up to tell me I didn't

514
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: have any pass so he went to the store with

515
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: me for me. He couldn't understand my embarrassment. He explained

516
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: that it didn't bother him because he grew up with

517
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: a mom of three sisters, I think because of this experience,

518
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: always being the gender minority in his home, it makes

519
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: it easier for daughters to tell him they needed pass

520
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. It's just a societal

521
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: hang up, and I think it just gets pushed into

522
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: like it gets pushed on the boys to ridicule it

523
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: and to laugh at it and monish it and shame

524
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: people for it would be stupid.

525
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 5: You know what.

526
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: And then they get old and be like, uh, you,

527
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: you're right to in the boss and you're like, mother,

528
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: fuck you because you're stupid.

529
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: And then I think for women and girls, they get

530
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: shamed in the like why.

531
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: Do you have this?

532
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: And it's like, my fucking body does this. It's nothing

533
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: like I could control this, bitch. Do you know how

534
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: many people would cut the water foss off if they could?

535
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: But it don't work like that.

536
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all ridiculous Goldilocks right. Saying how do I

537
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: send in funny video slash articles for the podcast segment?

538
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean people email and and sometimes send us something

539
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: on social media, I mean, which sometimes most of the

540
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: time I don't reply to those, and you know, it's

541
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: always funny because, like I say, over half the time

542
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: is somebody sending in some shit we already covered. They're

543
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: behind on the show, right in weeks behind, uh, but

544
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: that not even I'm not gonna say weeks. But they'll

545
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: send something like, hey, look at this sword story, and

546
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we cover that today, but I just

547
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: don't tell them. I just don't reply back to them.

548
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that means when they listen to

549
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: the show tomorrow, when they get caught up, they'll have

550
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: a nice little surprise. And for them, I'm giving them

551
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: a gift because they feel like they found that story

552
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: for us, like ooh, look, I'm like, but you know,

553
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm already have a Google alert for stores. You know,

554
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm already looking out for the white people coming to

555
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: the cookout.

556
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: You he does, he'd be on it most most of

557
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: the time, most of the stuff, y'all seeing. He already

558
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: probably has qued it up somewhere, right.

559
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: But I don't mind, you know, as long as you

560
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: don't like harass me, or it's just one person sending

561
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: me twenty seven articles or some shit, then I probably

562
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: will mute or whatever. But and I have had to

563
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: meet some people, well meaning people that just that every

564
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: day they were just sending me some I'm like, I

565
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: don't want to see this. This is you're turning my

566
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: social media into work all the time, and I don't

567
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: like that.

568
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: So that we don't mind your posting, but it don't

569
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: mean we have to see it, right, So.

570
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: It just depends on the situation. But yeah, you can

571
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: email us, you can tag us on Twitter or whatever

572
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: or something. You know, I've had people for I had

573
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: to tell the other day to stop tagging me on

574
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: stuff on Facebook and I, you know, obviously respectful, no disrespect.

575
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: They weren't being disrespected. It was no shade, no argument,

576
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: nothing like that. But it was like, you know, I

577
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: don't like logging into my I try to have as

578
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: little Facebook notifications as possible, so I don't like logging

579
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: in my Facebook. And it's like you just got tagged

580
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: the six articles and there's not even something to say.

581
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: It's just like you know my name, and I'm just like,

582
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want this. So you know, it's

583
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: all about menaging, no stimuli the same.

584
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: And uh, just to let y'all know, I don't be

585
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: joining nobody groups either. I know sometimes people like to

586
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: send them. I ignore the hell out of them. And

587
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: so it's not a rejection or anything. I just decline everybody.

588
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's send it to you, but

589
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: it's nothing personal.

590
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: I don't like groups.

591
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: The poet was white guilt dollars. Yes, get them while

592
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: they're good, getting as good. No I'm good or I'm white? Okay, care.

593
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: I'm good?

594
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Okay, No, I'm good. Karen doesn't want the white guilt dollars. Uh,

595
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna go with yes, get the wint of

596
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: getting this good, get them guilt dollars. Okay, don't don't

597
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: let your pride make you go hungry. They giving it up.

598
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long part season after this, Okay.

599
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: It will be Okay, I change my mind. I take you,

600
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: I take your.

601
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: While give me these opportunities. Okay. We're looking to highlight

602
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: black voices. Run it, running the money, run the money.

603
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk.

604
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: You can use mine.

605
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, ninety six percent say yes, get them whut

606
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: of getting its good? Focus focusing, say no, I'm good,

607
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: and zero percent said I'm white. So we got no

608
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: whites in this poll. Brooklyn shoe Bak says, as long

609
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: as I'm not selling my soul or my children's souls. Well,

610
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: obviously that wouldn't be white guilt dollars.

611
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so feeling guilty not us.

612
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not talking about that's black guilt dollars. You

613
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: feel guilty as a black person taking their money. That's

614
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: completely that's from Jason Whitlock. Shit, I'm talking the white

615
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: guilt dollars. Like Brooklyn Shoe Babe, we need black librarians

616
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: to be the face of this campaign. We're gonna pay

617
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: you one thousand dollars. It's like, oh, yeah, I've been

618
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: doing this unrecognized, and now I'm getting my money. Yes,

619
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: feel bad and give me my money, as long as

620
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm not selling my soul with my children souls literally

621
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: or figured it. Give me the free money. I want

622
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: a discount for being black every time I go into

623
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: Dunck and Donuts. I want black people to hook I

624
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: want the black people hook up in Red Loster. I

625
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: want all the white guilt money and discounts while it lasts. Yeah,

626
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: that's what I keep saying, while it lasts, because it's

627
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: not gonna be here forever, and.

628
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: When you drive up, it's gonna drive all the way up.

629
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: I was for a limited time only come on, Static says,

630
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: how else off off off office until white people don't

631
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: feel getting no more?

632
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: Static says? How else am I gonna afford a PS

633
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: five MS bond? Says? My employer recognized Juneteeth as a

634
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: holiday and gave most of the office off. But if

635
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: you're on the essential team, which I am, you got

636
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: double pay for Friday.

637
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: Ooh nice, that double pay that make it worth it?

638
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh that dope pay.

639
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie that that that that make it

640
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: worth it.

641
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Damn that dope pay be hitting. Oh I remember them days.

642
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: Oh you'd be like, double pay, I happen to show

643
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: my black ass.

644
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Up, especially if somebody without kids. Oh that was the

645
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: only thing that used to make it okay. They be like, well,

646
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: we need somebody to work on Christmas Eve, and you

647
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: know the majority of the team can't be here. We

648
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: need a couple of people just to come in and

649
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: won't be much to do. Just need someone here to

650
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: answer the phone. And only thing we can do is

651
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: offer double pay. Everybody's like, I don't my kids Christmas.

652
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I was like, as an atheist, childless person, I will

653
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: be here on Christmas even if I'm the one right

654
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: How many hours you need, because I'm willing to do

655
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: more than eighty double time.

656
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I do a four twelve.

657
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: You need it. Be in the office by myself, serving

658
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: the internet, reading message boards, getting music out loud, right,

659
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: getting two times oh double time. Oh, it's so ready

660
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: to get it. But it's so all right. We had

661
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: the next episode twenty one twenty two Welcome to the Party, Pal.

662
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: We had Vern and Cory on from Living Color. Yes, oh,

663
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: so many people enjoyed this episode. It's one of the

664
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: rare times where we have guests and a whole lot

665
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: of comments. Okay, y'all eight comments, y'all.

666
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all had a lot to stay because knowing that

667
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: be like, well, y'all covered everything, So I'm good.

668
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: D Ramder says five stars. From start to finish, this

669
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: episode had everything, black history, anger, raised, jokes, enjoy thank you,

670
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: thank you. You know, honestly, it's a lot like when

671
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: I just go by the crib and hang out with

672
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: my folks, Like this is basically how me and my

673
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: family talk all the time. Just like, fuck Trump first

674
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: and fore let's talk about that. Anyway, what else is

675
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: going on with these whites?

676
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: You know?

677
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: And work our way into some funny shit. Uh. And

678
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: it also helps that they listened to the show and

679
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: their fans and just genuinely good people. Like like I said,

680
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: when we met them, it was just such overwhelming, like right,

681
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: like it's like it's almost off putting because it's just like,

682
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: oh man, and like the same vibe extends out to

683
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: their fans and stuff, like their fans are super cool

684
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: because you know, we didn't. That was literally my first

685
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: rock concert ever. And when we went to rock and Raleigh, Yeah, you.

686
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Meet all types of people and you don't know kind

687
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: of how the interaction is gonna be. And they were

688
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: just like, yo, what's up.

689
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, very welcoming. So uh and says today we are

690
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: all progressive Americans. India says, I love this episode. I

691
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: always like how Rod and can interact with their guests

692
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: is never really awkward and it feels like they are

693
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: talking to friends and genuinely enjoying themselves. Quick question anyone

694
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: out there creating the Blackouts Cookout playlist on Spotify because

695
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: the playlist is banging so far. Thank you, India, And

696
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm not even doing that, so hopefully somebody is. If

697
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: you want to collect the songs and send them to me,

698
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: y'all make a list on my Spotify for y'all to

699
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: follow or whatnot. Stella says, I do have a coronavirus

700
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: song list, though, just letting y'all know that one's terrible.

701
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why anyone will follow it, but no.

702
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Stella says, I enjoyed this episode so much. Your interaction

703
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: with Corey and Vernon sounds like old friends. You two

704
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: really let your guests shine and participate in the fun.

705
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: The jokes kept coming, and Karen was a star on

706
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: this show. Of this show, her pun game was on

707
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: a hundred. I love how Corey and Vernon were hyping

708
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: her up. Thank you so much because I needed every

709
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: bit of this joint.

710
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: Oh that was having hype my bad puns.

711
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a ball. I think that's part of it.

712
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: You know, like there's a lot of fans out there,

713
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, getting the puns in.

714
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, my pun game has improved, y'all has improved the

715
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: life folding sandwich bread something like that.

716
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: You know, we following rules with my pumps.

717
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone else rules. Says I love this episode, Vernon, Corey,

718
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: our great guest, Lakita says. One of the best things

719
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: to come from the Rown is y'all getting really good

720
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: at guests because everyone is supposed to be home. I

721
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: love how Verne was so excited to be there to

722
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: hit the ground running. I also love Vernon Corey's brotherly dynamic.

723
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: They made it so fun, great show. Yeah, they're like

724
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: that in real life, So that was cool. I don't

725
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: know what land in mind we avoided with the quest.

726
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: Love thing, but I'm glad we appreciated it.

727
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: Appreciate us avoiding it.

728
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: Thank you for kicking it.

729
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this ain't the breakfast club. Okay, we don't want

730
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: no smoke. We're just trying to have fun. But yeah,

731
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: that was dope. And that's been the thing conscientious choice

732
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: I've made when we've had guests in the last so

733
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: many weeks or whatever. I don't do the reading Rainbow

734
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: segment on purpose. I just want to start talk to

735
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: them and just hit the ground running. We may or

736
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: may not even touch topics. It's really just depends on

737
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, how it's flowing right.

738
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: And the guests, because you know, we we kind of

739
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: know the vibe of the guests.

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00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know, when I say that this

741
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: is something I think about a lot, that this is

742
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: a creative outlet for me, and it's not like the

743
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: podcast is a job, but it's also my creativity, our

744
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: creativity at a collaboration of the guest creativity together, you know,

745
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: kind of like in a like a like a an

746
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: upside down triangle, you know, shout out to the illuminati,

747
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: like like I feel like I'm at the bottom of

748
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: that triangle being like, Okay, I'm spreading my creativity out

749
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just me and Karen and we're just

750
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: working it together, you know. But the with the guests

751
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: and stuff, you know, it gets bigger and bigger, and

752
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: some guests were able to like really build a whole

753
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: world in a podcast, and you know, I really enjoy that.

754
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: Let's see Kim Doc says. Living Color is quietly the

755
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: reason Seeing Punk was as elevated in the WWE as

756
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: he got colder. Personality is the most iconic walkout music

757
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: in wrestling history. So much of the talk of Punk

758
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: coming back centers on the feeling, on that feeling where

759
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: his music hits out of nowhere. Living Colors music they

760
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: made him, in my eyes, legendary. This is an amazing

761
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: podcast from Lady Antebellum wanted you to know they still

762
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: about that at Tobellum and not fully changing that abhorrent

763
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: stage name to the renaming of a Grammy category. I

764
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: was tossed back and forth in agreement across the board.

765
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like y'all speak my thoughts and my

766
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: feelings aloud. Thank you, Kim, thank you, thank you, Daddy,

767
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Eve E says. The thing for me is

768
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: when we talk about these subjects that are rage inducing,

769
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: that are exhausting, all the stuff is I still try

770
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: to filter it through funny, and I always love when

771
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: we can, especially good guess they get that, Okay, yeah

772
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: this is serious, so funny, you know, and so we

773
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: could be like, yeah, the progressive there's a bigger issue

774
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: about changing the urban progressive whatever. But also, isn't this

775
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: shit funny, Like you know, we're gonna go to progressive

776
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: outfitters like this shit don't even really make sense. Racism

777
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: just so stupid even he says, loved this episode. I'm

778
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: a big fan of Living Color, and I appreciate them,

779
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: especially as a black girl who loved heavy metal growing up.

780
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: It's lit whenever they come on and Corey has the

781
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: best role in Platoon because the brother had had enough

782
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: so he wounded himself to go home. And I was like,

783
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: that's what's up. Fuck these white people in the fake war.

784
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. All right, last thing for this episode is

785
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: the Poe. What do you prefer for the Grammys? Urban music, progressive,

786
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: R and B or black music?

787
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you know my stance just just just just

788
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: just just just just call him niggas.

789
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: So just kind of black music because that's what it is,

790
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: regardless of what you put on it, that's what you're

791
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: gonna call it.

792
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I think I don't like the progressive.

793
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: I think I prefer black music. Just yeah, call a

794
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: thing a thing, belove it.

795
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: I know they would never do that going around what

796
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: you're trying to call it.

797
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Well, also, just let me be clear. Let me be clear.

798
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 1: I do understand that there are gonna be black people

799
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: that would be pissed if it was called black music.

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00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: So we're not a model. If that's the point. There's

801
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: no name you could call it, because if we know

802
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: what it means black music, there's no name you could

803
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: call it that would not be like controversial. But I

804
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: like the idea of black music, because even then when

805
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: some white person or non black person wins it, it's like,

806
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: well they doing our music.

807
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: Yes, they'll doing black music.

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00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: You know, like you know, but I know that won't

809
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: happen because it's so weird because then they have like

810
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: the Latin Grammys, and that's okay, you know what I mean,

811
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Like it's not like the Urban Grammys, you know, So

812
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: why can't it be the black black with a capital B.

813
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Why not? Anyway, Seventy two percent of people say black music,

814
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: sixteen percent say progressive R and B, and only twelve

815
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: percent like urban music. Kim Knox says, somebody in the

816
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: comments said something like just call it jungle music and

817
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: get on with it, and I died. Grabmy is a

818
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: white institution, the face of the system, systemmatic racism. Fuck

819
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: though it's definitely a white institution. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad,

820
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad for the black people that get

821
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: they shine and they deserve recognition. But I just can't

822
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: even really watch the show because I never feel like

823
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: it's a home for us. It's just not meant for us.

824
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 2: A lot of times, if I'm online, I just watched

825
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: people reaction online in real time, and y'all, y'all don't let.

826
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: Me know who won and who lost and what y'all.

827
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Mad about twenty one twenty three. You should have minded

828
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: your business.

829
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: Come on me and.

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00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: Karen solo episode and of Burger King, I see you've

831
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: changed your name, and a Burger King says this clip

832
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: hasn't gone around. David Bowie is the music who died

833
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: a few years ago, the same time Prince died. I

834
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: remember you and Karen didn't know his music. He was

835
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: married to the model in mind. Anyway, This is the

836
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: interview where he questions the way MTV decided what music

837
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: videos will play. You had Living color on the last episode,

838
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: so I thought this might be interesting. Yeah, I've seen

839
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: this club a few times floating around Twitter and stuff,

840
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: and it's basically him questioning the entire way that MTV

841
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: at the time was even dealing with black music. Let

842
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: me see if I could play it for y'all. But yeah,

843
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I did think it was pretty cool, and I don't

844
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: know that man like that, So I know these there's

845
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: some other ship that happened with him and accused of

846
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: pedophilia and all this stuff. Oh this ship five minutes

847
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: we'll play what we can of it. I can't play it.

848
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: I probably won't be able to play the whole thing because,

849
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: like I said, we got a heart out.

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00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 6: It for you know, it occurred to me having watched

851
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 6: them TV over the last few months. That's a solid

852
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 6: enterprise and it's got a lot going for it. I'm

853
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: just flawed by the fact that there's so many, so

854
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 6: few black artists featured on it.

855
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 5: Why is there? I think that we're trying to move

856
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 5: in that direction.

857
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: We want to play artists that seem to be doing

858
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 4: music that fits into what we want to play for MTV.

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00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: There's the companies thinking in terms of narrow casting.

860
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 5: That's evident.

861
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: It's evident in the fact that the only few black

862
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 6: artists that one does see are on about two thirty

863
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 6: in the morning, on two around six, very fewer feature

864
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 6: predominantly predominantly during the day. No, I'll say that over

865
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks these things have been changing,

866
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 6: but it's a slow process.

867
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: I know. It's funny. I think people have different perceptions.

868
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: When you wind up watching let's say you watch an

869
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: hour or two or even three a day, people somehow

870
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 4: come away with different ideas about what we are doing.

871
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 5: What we don't have any kind of day party.

872
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

873
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: If the ship come on from like two something, may

874
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: like to like, nobody's watching this, Like so he's saying.

875
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: The bulk of the day is Northmber, but majority of

876
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: white people.

877
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: Well at the time, at the time, they really didn't

878
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: play a lot of black artists.

879
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson had to fight to be all right.

880
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson broke the color barrier essentially for music videos

881
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: with black artists. Correct, But this is also a way

882
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: to hide because it's like saying, y'all don't play any

883
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: rap on your on your radio station. It's like, well,

884
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: it depends on when you're listening. It's like, will y'all

885
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: play rap two to six in the morning, But they're like, well,

886
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: we play rap during the day, And they're like, yeah,

887
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: you play a couple of rap songs. And if I

888
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: just happen to get in the car at one oh five,

889
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: get out the car at one o seven, and then

890
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: get back in the car at two thirty three, and

891
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: I just happen to hear only those two raps, I go, wow,

892
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: I heard two rap songs on your station today. Good job.

893
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: But if I really sat there for three hours. You're

894
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: not playing enough rap or black music or whatever. You know,

895
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: I use rap as a in general, but like, you're

896
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: not playing enough black music for me to even be

897
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: like that.

898
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 5: You know.

899
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: So like Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, those are like huge

900
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: artists for black people at the time. It's why, you know,

901
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: one of the worst things that people would say about them,

902
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: and it's so fucked up an affair, and the reccon

903
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: on Whitney Houston has been amazing to see the last

904
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: few years. But there was a long period of time

905
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: where it was like, oh, they made black music for

906
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: white people, like they made white music essentially, and to

907
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: a certain extent, you do have to make whiter music

908
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: to make the crossover for some of the shit. You know,

909
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: they weren't really fucking with artists that was putting black

910
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: first and foremost, so you would have to like cross

911
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: over some level of appeal to whiteness. You know, Lino

912
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Ritchie as Byrne made that joke, you know, like you

913
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: kind of and it's not shade, it's literally just the

914
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: economics of the business. But yeah, David Bowie noticing that

915
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: and then it gas likes with David Bowie immediately with well,

916
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: I mean people come with it. It's crazy how people

917
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: just come up with these different perceptions as if you know.

918
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: If you like the whole fucking block, this isn't the truth.

919
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: It's just how you perceive it.

920
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: For anything, let alone, a black artists stay parted out

921
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 4: of what would be quote prime time.

922
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 6: We don't have that because one sees a lot on

923
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 6: the on the there's one black station on television that

924
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 6: I keep picking up. I'm not sure which station it's on,

925
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 6: but there's a There seems to be a lot of

926
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 6: black artists making very good videos that I'm surprised aren't

927
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 6: used on MTV.

928
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: Of course, also we have to try and do what

929
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: we think not only New York and Los Angeles will appreciate,

930
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 4: but also Poughkeepsie or Midwest. Picked some town in the

931
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 4: Midwest that will be scared.

932
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: So once again, now it's about the working class white people.

933
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 1: And I would say this, if you're a working white,

934
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: white class person, I don't you might not be listening

935
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: to show.

936
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: You might be.

937
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. But if I could address that elephant

938
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: in the room for a second, the amount of disrespect

939
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: and coddling there is for that white working class. It's

940
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: as if they are basically saying, you are fucking backwards idiots,

941
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: and they pawn off regression on the working white class.

942
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: They pawn that off when you look at the things

943
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: that politicians won't touch, the things that these corporations won't touch,

944
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: like and and I'm gonna say something that I think

945
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: is more you know, like it's it's the opposite of

946
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: what most people would expect black people to believe. But

947
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: I think the working white class is much more resilient

948
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: and much more progressive than they're giving credit for.

949
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: They don't take action.

950
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Working white class is the white people that I went

951
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: to school with, the white people that lived in my neighborhoods,

952
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: the white people that you know, I worked with because

953
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm working class. So I'm not saying they're all good

954
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: and all this shit. There's plenty of them that are

955
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: plenty fucked up. But there are some good working white

956
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: class people who aren't with this bullshit that even and

957
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: I don't even mean that on some days on whoe

958
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: book reading motherfuckers like like it's some Twitter signifying performer shit. No,

959
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean there are white people who just have a

960
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: heart of empathy white people that really do believe all

961
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: that good stuff in the Bible that's actually about like

962
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: being like Jesus and loving people, and shit, there are

963
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: white people like that.

964
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: I've seen them with my own two Right.

965
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they don't have white privilege, it doesn't

966
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: mean they're not affected by white supremacy, none of this shit,

967
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: but it does mean that they have more capacity for

968
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: either change or they just have a heart that's like,

969
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna let no evil happen in

970
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: my sight, So fuck that shit, Like I don't racism

971
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: is evil to me. And I know I didn't go

972
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: to school to figure that one out. Like I just

973
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: love black my black neighbors, I love, you know. And

974
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: so it's funny because my personal belief is a lot

975
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: of these corporations, the NFL, MTV in this case, politicians

976
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: like whether it be a Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton,

977
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: or obviously the Republican's way more repugnant than than any

978
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: of those three. Right, This thing where they pawn off

979
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: shit to the working white class is abhorrent. Like they'll

980
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: never win the white vote in the Democratic right, They'll

981
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: never win it. But what always gets taken for granted

982
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: and doesn't get talked about enough is they do win

983
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: some it's not it's literally and I'll never saying these

984
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: words again on the show, but it's literally not all

985
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: white people. Like like, we'll say the fifty three percent

986
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: of white women, and that's that as a high way

987
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: high number. It's terrible. I'll never be certain and sure

988
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: if I'm in a room full of random white women

989
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: that I'm like, okay, these people got my back, right,

990
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: But there's also like forty something percent of white women

991
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: that was like, no, I'm not with that bullshit, right

992
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: and so right, yeah, just like this isn't me saying

993
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: like opining them. It's just me saying, like, how disrespectful

994
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: to your sensibilities? You know what I'm saying, How disrespectful

995
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: to them to pawn off because I don't know that

996
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: that working white class is what's holding MTV back, because

997
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: MTV doesn't give a fuck about dispersing Los Angeles and

998
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: New York culture in any other area. But all of

999
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, well, we don't want Idaho getting mad. No,

1000
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: you don't want black artists on your fucking show. And

1001
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: then you flip it into well, it's really white people

1002
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: in Idaho. If I was a white person in Idaho,

1003
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: I'd be in sense, like the fuck are you talking about?

1004
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. Shiit say say

1005
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: you got a problem with it, don't don't put it

1006
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: on me, Like I'm home changing the channel because Michael Jackson.

1007
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't like listening to Michael Jackson. You know who

1008
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: loves black music, white people? You know who black people?

1009
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: You know who else loves black people love black music.

1010
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Everybody that like rhythm and talent and shit. You know,

1011
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: So the pawn that off on some like some motherfucking

1012
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: wyoming or some ship as if that's the problem on

1013
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: your TV.

1014
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes not. I'm funny.

1015
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: Some of the lowest populations in some of these states

1016
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: not fun It's like, okay, the states that have the

1017
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: largest populations, which means, you know, Negroes, all of us

1018
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 2: went to the big cities doing the migration and shit

1019
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: like that. So you not gonna find you would not

1020
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: that we're not there, but you ain't gonna find a

1021
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: large fucking collection of us we in these larger cities.

1022
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: But it's you telling me that the world's not ready

1023
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: to hear that. You know, who else is in the

1024
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: large collection of cities, most of these fucking artists, right,

1025
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: So that doesn't even make sense. The entire complex of

1026
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: MTV at that time was promoting what was hot in

1027
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: New York and LA and the big city. So so

1028
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: when it comes to black people, though, well we got

1029
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: to slow down. Okay, that's not Idaho is not ready

1030
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: for that.

1031
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 4: Here to Death by Prince, which we're playing, or a

1032
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: string of other black faces is interesting.

1033
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: Isn't that interesting?

1034
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 4: You know? We have to we have to play the

1035
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: music that we think an entire country is going to like,

1036
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: and certainly we're a rock and roll station. Now the

1037
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: question would be asked, well, should since we're in New York,

1038
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: should PLJ play.

1039
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 5: You know, the Isley Brothers.

1040
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 4: Well, you and I might say yeah, because we have

1041
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 4: grown up in an era when the Isley Brothers mean

1042
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: something to me, and so do the Spinners, even way

1043
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: after the Isley Brothers. But what does it mean to

1044
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 4: a seventeen year old Well, if you talk on the

1045
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: phones to these guys.

1046
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 5: Like I did when I was in radio, Well, actually

1047
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 5: what it means, I tell you what?

1048
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 6: Maybe the Isley Brothers or Marvin Day means to a

1049
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 6: black seventeen year old, Ah, surely he's part of Americas

1050
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 6: When he.

1051
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: Was question, no question, that's why you're seeing those things.

1052
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 6: So you're not find that it's a frightening particular to

1053
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 6: be in.

1054
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but less so here than radio.

1055
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 6: And is it not well that don't say, well, it's

1056
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 6: not means then is it?

1057
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1058
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: What's funny is David Boyce said, do you not find

1059
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: it's a frightening predicament to be being? And that white

1060
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: man thought he meant him. David boy is still talking

1061
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: about the seventy year old black kid.

1062
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: Right. Disconnect was so quick.

1063
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: He was like, I mean, yeah, I'm scared. What are

1064
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: you scared of? You're the one with the fucking finger

1065
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: on the button? Right, it is frightening enough to think about.

1066
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: He's like, He's like, as a seventy year old black

1067
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: kid knowing that these motherfuckers ain't gonna play the shit

1068
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: that matters to you, isn't that frightening?

1069
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: And you praditioned you potentially losing a lot of audience

1070
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: that would actually get your ratings up, right, David Bugos.

1071
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 7: It's not me them like wait and is it not

1072
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 7: well that don't say, well, it's not means then is

1073
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 7: it not possible that it's it's it should be a

1074
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 7: conviction of the station and of other radio stations to

1075
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 7: be fair, it is it just seemed to be rampant

1076
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 7: through American media?

1077
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: Is it?

1078
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 6: Should it not be a challenge to try and make

1079
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 6: the media far more integrated in those especially of anything

1080
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 6: in musical terms.

1081
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think it's happening because white music and white

1082
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: musicians are now starting to play more than ever, what

1083
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: more than they have lately, let's say, in the last

1084
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: ten years, what what black artists have been into and.

1085
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: Now mean appropriation? Right, people won't see themselves why artists

1086
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: are now starting to play black music.

1087
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 3: More than ever, Like I don't give au they're not black.

1088
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: Which is also a lie hopefully like they've been ever

1089
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: since Payola and Ship. White white artists been playing black

1090
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: people Elvis, you know, like.

1091
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: Come ons, they're going to start to blur And when

1092
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: we play a band like ABC, yeah, well there's there's

1093
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 4: white and black kids who are enjoying it, and all

1094
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 4: of a sudden, well it's a little bit easier for

1095
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 4: a white kid to understand it. The fact is quite frankly,

1096
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: I could even point towards a letter in the new

1097
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 4: issue of the Record with the magazine The Record, responding

1098
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: to an article by Dave Marsh that this kid just

1099
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 4: ranted about what he didn't want to see on MTV

1100
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: on certain terms. What I'm saying, though, is that there's

1101
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: as you say, there's certainly a lot of black kids

1102
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: and white kids who may want to see black music.

1103
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: There's a ton of them who are It's not like

1104
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 4: it wasn't sixty seven when you say, yeah, I'm not

1105
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: into that, you know, but you are.

1106
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 5: Now it's you're into that. I don't like you.

1107
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: And then why this is the thing. This is mind's

1108
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: at AMC with the mask lately, where they go, we

1109
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be political, so we're not gonna we're

1110
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna tell people you don't have to wear a mask

1111
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: at AMC and basically saying if you want to wear

1112
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: a mask inside of a movie theater that his clothes

1113
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: had air conditioning and can't really practice true social distancing.

1114
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: People are gonna be eating and that shit. If hey,

1115
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: we're just gonna leave it up to you, and people

1116
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: were like, what the fuck are you talking about and

1117
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, I mean we'll sign Okay, you

1118
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: have to wear a mask. Okay, scientifically it's the right

1119
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: thing to do. And it's like, that's what he just did.

1120
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: Where it's like this cop out of where there's racist

1121
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: people out there and we have to cater to them.

1122
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: It's like, you don't have to know you don't the

1123
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: same way you don't have to cater to the black kids.

1124
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: Apparently you've been sacrificing these black kids for years and

1125
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. But then when it comes to

1126
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: the racist people, it's like, well, we have to give

1127
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: their opinion validity.

1128
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: That's scary and can't we can't just turn around and go, well,

1129
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: look this is the right way.

1130
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: He is not amused.

1131
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: This nigga look like he is fade tight right now,

1132
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, looking like the hell you talking to

1133
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: He's like, and now I'm about to play the big

1134
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: joke on this motherfucker.

1135
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 5: I think a little bit at a time. Interesting, Okay,

1136
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 5: thank you very much. That makes sense. Valid point. I

1137
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 5: understand your point of view.

1138
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah he didn't say it was valid. He said he understood.

1139
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the same. That's interesting. They came that far.

1140
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: We've come so far that MTV is actually that's on

1141
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: MTV News's website, I mean YouTube, like they put that out.

1142
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: I'd be almost embarrassed to put that shit out, you

1143
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like this is what we used

1144
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: to stand for.

1145
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 5: Nothing.

1146
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: Anyway, back to this, I remember your Karen didn't know

1147
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: it's jellab Oh okay? Yeah cool, all right, but thank

1148
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: you for the clip. We did play the whole thing,

1149
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: so that's cool. Rich says, I agree with you, Rod

1150
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 1: DC Mayor got asked, Yeah, she thig uh correction. The general,

1151
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: the gentleman James Juanito who was playing who was spraying

1152
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter on his property is actually Filipino, so

1153
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: just make sure he brings some was it Pansit Loupyang

1154
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: Shanghai Filipino spring rolls, and some pork adobo for the cookouts.

1155
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: Oh we love it.

1156
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that too.

1157
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it's James Juanio Okay or whatilo? Okay? Thanks, Dia says, great,

1158
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: Greedy's rid of Karen's long But I covered three topics

1159
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: because the episode is just so good. I'm raising the

1160
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: black girl. I wanted to say that defunding the police

1161
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: some very difficult conversations need to be had in the

1162
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: effort to protect women in those difficult conversations cannot happen

1163
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: online because it gets shouted down or just asking questions

1164
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: views as opposing someone or divisive. And because those conversations

1165
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: cannot happen online, a lot of people are going to

1166
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: get left out of process when policies are made. This

1167
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: is one of those things if you're not in the

1168
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: if you're not in the room, you're on the table.

1169
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1170
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: The other thing I would mention too is a lot

1171
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: of abolition and a lot of defunding still ends up

1172
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: with some level of like community intervention and stuff to

1173
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: which you know you're gonna need to form have some

1174
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: level of In my opinion, obviously, you're gonna have people

1175
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: gonna ask questions until they feel like they have answers,

1176
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: and if they don't have answers and processes that are

1177
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: deliberate and they know they can go through, they're not

1178
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: gonna accept it.

1179
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: And that's something hard for people to understand. You can't

1180
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: uh present something like we have the answer, and then

1181
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 2: people start asking questions and a lot of the ship

1182
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: they ask and you haven't even considered a thought about

1183
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: like you said, I have anything.

1184
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: In part they were like, the funk, i'mnna follow this

1185
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: for y'all. Don't know what y'all doing.

1186
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Right, And I you know, I've listened to quite a

1187
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: few podcasts and read some some with columns and stuff

1188
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: from different people that are working in this area, and

1189
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, I think

1190
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: that they have great goals, They have the hearts in

1191
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: the right place. They believe in this radical empathy and

1192
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: forgiveness and all this shit. I don't know that society,

1193
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: even black people are there. Maybe we will one day,

1194
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: but I just know that if somebody harms someone in

1195
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: my family or something, and the solution is some sort

1196
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: of like we just gonna talk about it, or they

1197
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: can do some sort of I don't know, I don't

1198
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: come to my house and garden or whatever fucking solutions people,

1199
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: because they never really say fully what a solution would

1200
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: look like for something like that, and what justice looks

1201
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 1: like for that, and what makes me feel better? Because

1202
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: they say center the victim, But then what if it's

1203
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: a victim like me? Or I'm like fuck them, you know,

1204
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: because then they go, well, hold up, we don't want to.

1205
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: We can't let the victims just do this because then

1206
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: they'll be too vangel Well, then you're not really centering

1207
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: me in a way that I agree to anyway. Maybe

1208
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, for some I know motherfuckers, they really say

1209
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't forgive. So if they say that and then

1210
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: someone does something criminal to them, how are you centering

1211
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: them by being like, nothing's gonna happen. So those people

1212
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: do want punishment. So I think it's just difficult. It's ichy.

1213
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: You're right, it can't happen online, and I'll keep my

1214
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: ear to the streets. I'm still reading some of these

1215
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: books and stuff, and I and it doesn't mean I

1216
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: think they're scared that they're gonna lose everyone for the well,

1217
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: defund the police and abolish the police. They think they're

1218
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: gonna lose us, and then we're gonna be like fuck

1219
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: that then, cause I don't abolish it, then don't change nothing. No,

1220
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: I agree, the system's broken. Agreed, So that like I'm

1221
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: cool with what like, let's get rid of the shit?

1222
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: Cool?

1223
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but don't then YadA YadA YadA me when it's like, so,

1224
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: what we're gonna think about for this that's important too.

1225
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: Don't just say well, I just think imagination is beautiful.

1226
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: I said for me, and my mind can be changed.

1227
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not one of the people with my

1228
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: arms folded to talk about change my mind. I am

1229
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: willing to bend and I am willing to change. But

1230
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: my questions are valid, and I want something that's is foundational,

1231
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: because if something happened, like I said, I don't want

1232
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: your mama and them on some voting committee, voting and

1233
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: shit like that and centering me in.

1234
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, this motherfucker should go to jail. You up,

1235
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: we don't have jail. Well, I don't want them around me,

1236
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: you know.

1237
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: Man, Let's just keep it real, like like like, what

1238
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: are the consequences whatever, repercussions.

1239
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: And the thing is, I understand that you have to

1240
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: change the mind of the people. This is true. Where

1241
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: then you have to do slow progression.

1242
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: You can't just get rid of a system, don't really

1243
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: have anything to replace it, because something will come up

1244
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: in its place, either you're gonna put it there or

1245
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: something else will form on its own to take its place.

1246
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just keep thinking, like what happens if we

1247
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: just bad the police blah, blah blah. And then the

1248
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: fucking white supremacist people that are basically the police that

1249
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: work in the force right now, they just be like no,

1250
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: like okay, cool, now, we don't have badges and rules

1251
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: and ship. But remember there's no police force. There's no

1252
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: thing that can make us not have these guns. There's

1253
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: nothing that can make us not arm ourselves and be

1254
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: a militia.

1255
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 3: We decided.

1256
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: You said community police, and well we police in our

1257
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,479
Speaker 1: community this way, there's white people. We they ain't shit.

1258
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: You can do what you're gonna call the police owners.

1259
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: What you're gonna come, come, come take our guns out

1260
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: of cold dead hands like this is that? You know?

1261
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 3: Soalid?

1262
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: Right, there's things I think of like that, And I

1263
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: don't think that's like a crazy thing because I live

1264
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: in this fucking racist ass country, this white supremacist country,

1265
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: and it's not beyond white people to do that shit,

1266
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: you know. Or they they come to our neighborhood and

1267
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: fuck us up, and then we over here talking about

1268
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: so well, I guess we'll have a community panel to

1269
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: figure out why they bomb the church with the faux

1270
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: black girls, Like yeah, it's not it's just anyway. I

1271
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: don't mean to shit on the idea of the concept

1272
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: in general. I just know that the scenarios that people

1273
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: are gonna want to have answers for. And I don't

1274
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: think those people are just like you know, I love

1275
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: the cops, Blue Lives Matter. Some of these people are

1276
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: just scared because you know they they're gonna need some

1277
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: sort of apparatus or logic to work there.

1278
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: Right, And their fear is valid, and you can't just

1279
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: dismiss their fear to get your point across. And that's

1280
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: now people like me. You make people like me mad

1281
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: when I ask a very very valid question.

1282
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 3: You go, me too, Okay, you too? Now what? Bitch?

1283
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: Now what? Okay, me too? We both here, okay, now what?

1284
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: And I don't ever get an answer to that question.

1285
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: The TUSA massacre. I know that they didn't teach it

1286
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Speaker 1: to many of us in school. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that we wish we learned. But there's also

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Speaker 1: something for being inquisitive. Because I bet that after people

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Speaker 1: watch Watchmen, that is still all they know about the

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Speaker 1: Tulsa massacre. Did it make them inquisitive enough to get

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Speaker 1: a book or at least read the wiki page? You know,

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Speaker 1: the saying youth is what the young. Sometimes history is

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Speaker 1: wasted on the young.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I find myself wanting to learn more about topics just

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Speaker 1: because I have grown and experienced more. In school, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they talked about how you're a pad of monarchy, but

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Speaker 1: now as an adult, I'm more inquisitive about it. I

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Speaker 1: eat that type of history up and about wars and

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: different kings and queens. I mean, yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a chronic problem forever in every generation. But

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Speaker 1: I feel I feel like this kid, these kids have

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01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: more access to stuff that we did at much younger ages.

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Speaker 1: And my personal anecdotal experience is that more people didn't

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Speaker 1: just look up the TUSA massacre and the Wikipedia page

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: and stuff because of Watchmen. More professors taught about it,

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01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: more schools taught about it, more people talked about in

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Speaker 1: their churches into the young kids in their lives. So

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, so I would I would say, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that the young people learned from that. Now you're not

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01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna gatch them all, uh, And it would be best

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: to be taught in school because that's the best way

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: to catch them all. And it was that's why it's omitted,

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: because they don't want to catch them all, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot more people did learn because of

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Speaker 1: that pop culture moment. Lastly, on Dave Chappelle criticism of

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Speaker 1: him not mentioning women are trans victims of Police Battalion's

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01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: comedy Special, I understand the hurt, but I also want

1319
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: to defend his art, not him so much, but his

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01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: art for him, because he got a lot wrong on

1321
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Speaker 1: the stage. For example, in Dallas, five officers are killed,

1322
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: not nine. He got some Chris Dorner facts wrong. Comedy

1323
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: doesn't always get it right, but I guess in comedians,

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01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: I like, I kind of eat the meat and spit

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Speaker 1: out the bones. Yeah, I'm kind of the same way

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Speaker 1: with pretty much all comedians are like, that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It extends to me. For comedians I don't even like,

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Speaker 1: like I like and that's and for the ones I

1329
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: do like, even with them, I'm like, this premise is off,

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Speaker 1: this power dynamic is But I think I just look

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: at comedy as a as an art and not just

1332
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Speaker 1: a thing I'm consuming or kind of like woke people

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Speaker 1: do now where they look at comedy and they take

1334
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: it so serious and literal that there isn't Now that

1335
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Speaker 1: being said, What Day Special was last was not comedy.

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Speaker 1: So if people want to break that down to say factually,

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Speaker 1: it's just inaccurate, it's just about I don't mind that

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Speaker 1: because I don't think he presented it as in a

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Speaker 1: comedic fashion.

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Speaker 2: Yet it looks and it sounds like I haven't seen

1341
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: it before. More people saying it sound like he's just

1342
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 2: talking off the.

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Speaker 1: Top of his head on I don't know. He hadn't

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Speaker 1: performed in one hundred some days. I don't know if

1345
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Speaker 1: he practiced in his house. I don't know all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much he looked up. I don't

1347
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Speaker 1: know how much of it was on the fly. It

1348
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Speaker 1: felt very on the fly, but you never know. He's

1349
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Speaker 1: so good he could be have practice that shit at

1350
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Speaker 1: home and whatever. So anyway, I don't I welcome. I

1351
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't say welcome. That's not true. That's not true in

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Speaker 1: the least. Let me stop that line coming out of

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Speaker 1: my mouth. I understand all criticism that these motherfuckers get you.

1354
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: That big motherfucker's gonna talk about you, and I understand

1355
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: that on the platforms of the people talking about you,

1356
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Speaker 1: that's what the fuck they do too. You know what

1357
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: I like? The game is the game, like Dave Chappelle

1358
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: putting out a special and then like David Dennis Junior

1359
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Speaker 1: wrote along like thing about it and stuff and interrogated

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Speaker 1: and critical of it, and there were people and that's

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Speaker 1: what he does, right, And then I saw people on

1362
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: Twitter harassing him both ways of you didn't go hard

1363
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: enough critically, you were too critical on Dave Chapelle. That's

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01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: what they do. Like, it's all this fucking cycle of

1365
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: just like a thing happens, this person comments, and then

1366
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: this person comments, and this person comments, and they're all

1367
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Speaker 1: serving different audiences. It's all crash kind of. This is

1368
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Speaker 1: my cynical commercialism, is what I believe it is. Felix says,

1369
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: the Little Britain thing comes off as a little disingenuous

1370
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Speaker 1: to me because those dudes are doing the whole damn

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01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: lot with the black face on that show. That shit

1372
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: was really bad. Even then, The fact that the first

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Speaker 1: stuff I saw TV when my African family moved to

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Speaker 1: the UK was a bunch of black face in prime

1375
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Speaker 1: time was the most jarn transition.

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Speaker 4: Bruh.

1377
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: Britain has its own tradition of black face that's well documented.

1378
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: So I don't buy anyone's excuses who was doing it

1379
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Speaker 1: into two thousands, Every black person I knew at the

1380
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Speaker 1: time always gave the show the side except for the

1381
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 1: homophobic jokes. Every one of every race happily laughter that stuff.

1382
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: Shaking my head. That bo selected show also really did

1383
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: a number on Craig Davis's career. Two Do only just

1384
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: recently came back in a big way. The fact that

1385
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: they were allowed to get away with that is still

1386
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: have careers tells you a lot. I was more of

1387
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: a Catherine Tate fan myself now that lady could do

1388
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: some bloody skits. Bruh, my god, Well, Felix, that sounds

1389
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: like a lot of good stuff from across the pond

1390
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: that me and Karen would not know anything about. But

1391
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: I will say this, it don't matter because they did

1392
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: the bare minimum. They coming to the cookout. Bruh. Okay,

1393
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: that's how it works, you to do a lot. I

1394
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: don't know if you notice, but it ain't exactly exactly

1395
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: a high bar any It's the lowest of low bars. Okay,

1396
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: if you even acknowledge Lady A got in Lady Antebellum,

1397
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: I am from the South and I do know what

1398
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: that means. They in they coming, that's how it works.

1399
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: It sucks, right even he says, here's how we know

1400
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: that being white is a hell of a drug, because

1401
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: we see these races getting out exposed on social media

1402
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: and losing their jobs. But they just can't help themselves.

1403
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: They refuse to mind their business when one is bothering

1404
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: when no one is bothering them. At the end of

1405
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: the day, if they lose their job, they'll be all

1406
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: right because some sympathetic white person will hire them somewhere else. True. True,

1407
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean even if you racism, you black or whatever,

1408
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: you'll be all right. I mean, listen, here's the thing.

1409
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: For the most part, nothing's gonna happen to most people.

1410
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: All these viral moments and shit. You see they get

1411
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: fired from a job. I don't know what people expect.

1412
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: You think they're not gonna exist. You think some other

1413
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: like if they like, some other company's not gonna hire

1414
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 1: them eventually. And this is for every type of igotry

1415
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: and ism and all this shit. These motherfuckers are like,

1416
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: because you got canceled on the internet, it doesn't really

1417
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: mean you're like, you're not going to prison if you

1418
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't commit a crime. You're just gonna be persona non

1419
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: grid until the Internet gets bored. We'll move on to

1420
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: another thing. If your name ever pops up, we'll remember

1421
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: the thing.

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Speaker 5: And that's it.

1423
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: That's the extent of what the Internet can really do

1424
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: to you, you know what I mean? Motherfuckers the Internet

1425
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: don't like and they are doing just fucking fun like

1426
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: so I don't even like people like. It's almost a

1427
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: non starter for me. You know where people are like, yo,

1428
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: what about you know so and so said it's such

1429
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: and such. I'm like, yeah, and they're gonna be in

1430
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: concert in your local town. It don't matter. Yes, sir,

1431
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: can't even cancel the motherfucking criminals. You know you ain't

1432
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna cancel no social faux pod motherfuckers except for Chris

1433
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: at Michelle. That's the only person I've ever seen get

1434
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: canceled for real, for real, for real, And I think

1435
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: that's because her fan bases black women and she went

1436
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: directly against the career.

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: Yes she did.

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01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: Uh do thick thighs matter? Yes or no?

1439
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 3: Yes?

1440
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: Ninety seven percent say yes, but three percent said no.

1441
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't see no. The comments don't

1442
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: say I care about thick thighs. And them dance, shout

1443
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: out the fire, start a cruise as zeke them dance. Yes,

1444
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: Kim Doc says, do men even care about breast any more?

1445
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: Legitimate question? You ever hear about breast anymore? Dewey, Yes, y'all,

1446
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: breast has its own day titty Tuesday. Okay. I don't

1447
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: know where you got that from, but you're not about

1448
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: to put that evil on men. We are into the.

1449
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 3: Tits, briss maddens all breast matters.

1450
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like, pardon the comparison ourist, it's like picking

1451
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: a favorite child. Not really, but you know what I'm saying,

1452
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: Like it's one in one A.

1453
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have watermelon, canalopes, apples, they all matter.

1454
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: It's a photo finish, okay, at the finish line for

1455
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: all these parts, no matter, no matter how big.

1456
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 3: The Jukes.

1457
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: Episode twenty four, No Justice, No Crease, when we had

1458
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: three guys on, that was fun. We got a lot

1459
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: of comments on this one too. I was like, five comments,

1460
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: let's see here. Brooklyn shoe Bay says, my ex husband

1461
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: was a huge football fan, as he played peewee football

1462
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: in high school football. He watched every football movie except

1463
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: the one where the NFL replays striking football players with

1464
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: scabs and star Keanu Reeves The Replacements. I saw that, However,

1465
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: my favorite sports movie is Any Given Sunday, as it

1466
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 1: was the first football movie I saw where I understood

1467
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: the place. I embarrassed the fuck out of my husband

1468
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: in the movie theater, cheering and clapping. Oh God. After

1469
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: a while he whispered, it's just a movie, relaxed.

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01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 3: Lol.

1471
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: My other favorites are Rocky three and Real Still, Robot Boxing,

1472
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: and a family of Real Still your crime. You watch

1473
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 1: Real Still, It's it's that that's almost not really a

1474
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: it's a sports movie, but it's robot boxing.

1475
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 3: But that's what's in that in the movie. Did didn't we?

1476
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 4: Yes?

1477
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: We did? Also like the movie The Boxing Movie with

1478
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: Christian Bale and Marky Mark. I don't think I saw

1479
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: that one. I remember some good picks though, some good

1480
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: picks up in there.

1481
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 6: Uh.

1482
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: And The Replacements was funny, man. I can't remember who

1483
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: played the wide receiver, Movelle Orlando Jones. Well, somebody played

1484
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: that wide receiver. That black man was funny. Classic R

1485
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: and B Lover says, Hello, Rod and Karen. This comment

1486
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: is not an episode specific, just something I keep meaning

1487
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: to share with the Blackouts family. I know that this

1488
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: is the age of the RONA. People are keeping things

1489
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: like hand sanitizing their cars. Please make sure you keep

1490
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: your sanitized with you in a bag and you do

1491
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: not leave in the car excessive He can cause alcohol

1492
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: to evaporate, rendering the disinfected properties useless. Thanks classic R

1493
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: and B lover. Shendon says, if Lee married advised the

1494
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: family to go to a white house, and shame on him.

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: But if he didn't advise them, I understand why he

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: was there. As an attorney, if Trump wanted to meet

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01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 1: with my clients, I cannot just deny to meeting without

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01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: telling my clients. If the family in this case by

1499
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: Rvory's mother wants to go meet with Trump, I would

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01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: advise against it, but it's ultimately the family decision. I would, however,

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01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: go as her attorney to make sure I can protect

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01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: that privilege at interest in the meetings because the meeting

1503
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: is not illegal action that I can stop through the

1504
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: court action or legal standards. Again, I would advise against it,

1505
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: but I as an attorney, if I represent you, I

1506
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: cannot just quit on you because you want to attend

1507
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: a meeting I don't.

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01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 3: Yes, you can.

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: Attorney's quit on that shit all the time. I'm not

1510
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:31,839
Speaker 1: doing We've.

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: Seen articles where we've seen documentaries on it where motherfucker's

1512
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: cut up so bad that attorney was like, I tell

1513
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 2: this nigga to shut the fuck up. He keeps going

1514
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 2: into press and talking, so fuck him.

1515
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: I'm out.

1516
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: You can always withdraw your representation. That being said, sheddon

1517
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: don't think I'm saying that's what he should have did, right,

1518
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: just saying it's always an option. I'm sure if they said,

1519
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: you know what, we want to have a press conference

1520
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: to say, you know, fuck black lives matter, Blue Lives

1521
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: Man to us and I still was a criminal, I'm

1522
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: sure Lee Mahor would be like, I advise against that.

1523
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: And if they said I'm doing it, he'd be like, yeah,

1524
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: well I'm not part of that. So y'all, y'all do

1525
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: you'll thing, but I'm not representing this. I've had clients

1526
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: that wanted to hold press conferences and I advise against it,

1527
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: but I've said, well, if you're going to do it,

1528
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 1: let me at least read the statement. Just because I

1529
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: read the statement doesn't mean I could down the press conference.

1530
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: And so i'll bad attorney, YO, shouldn't. Absolutely I understand

1531
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: everything you're saying here, and I always forget that. I

1532
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: follow people on Twitter that hate Sean King and hate

1533
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: Lee Merritt, so they always assume the worst of them.

1534
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: So it really could be exactly what you said. The

1535
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: family wanted to meet with Trump, and as a good lawyer,

1536
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 1: he's the one who should take the brunt of that

1537
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: from the public. Let people blame me rather than blame

1538
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: the family. I totally understand that. And maybe it was

1539
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: him that said we're not going to do the optics

1540
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: or whatever. I sometimes this happens to me just the

1541
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: same way happens to anybody else. The story that was

1542
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: fun to me with all this projection was is I

1543
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: of him telling the family go sit in this room

1544
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: with Trump take a photo op. That was the first

1545
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: tweet I saw with some other activists calling him out,

1546
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: being like, so you were gonna use the family for

1547
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: a photo op, and my brain it's like, without me

1548
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: even knowing, it's subconsciously I was like, oh, wait, they

1549
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: were gonna do that, and I don't have any proof

1550
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: that's what was gonna happen in that room, So you know,

1551
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: shame on me. That's all me. Lakeita says, y'all did

1552
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: the damn thing this week with the guests, another fun episode.

1553
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: It was like listening on a phone call with five

1554
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: good friends. I hope they come back. So yeah, love

1555
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 1: those listen. You can also hear me sometimes on their shows.

1556
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: So check out three guys on podcasts. I'll go over

1557
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: there kick it with them on a Saturday if I'm

1558
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: not busy, and most times just really come to listen.

1559
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: But you know, it's always dope to be invited on

1560
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: on the zoom and chat with them. You know, love

1561
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: those guys, Eve. He says. Two great sports movies that

1562
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: weren't mentioned was Major League and the Mighty Ducks. Oh yeah,

1563
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: those are two good ones. I just didn't mention because

1564
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: they were comedy. I don't think we mentioned any comedies really. Sure.

1565
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: Major League had some problematic actors, but it was funny.

1566
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't remember who the do you know, don't remind me.

1567
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: I just remember loving it. It was funny and yeah,

1568
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: and if it's a movie from the nineties, it's probably

1569
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: problematic anyway. By twenty twenty standards right uh. And the

1570
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: main kid from Mighty Dust went on to become an

1571
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: unproblematic favor and married a black queen, Joe de Turner Smith.

1572
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh that is pacy. Is that what y'all call him?

1573
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 1: That is y'all. Y'all's man, Okay, I did I legit?

1574
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: Don't watch. I didn't watch the show that he got

1575
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: famous from, so I don't remember it. But I'm just

1576
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: glad a black woman's being loved loved up on right.

1577
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: The poll is, are you wearing a mask in public?

1578
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 5: Yes?

1579
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 2: No?

1580
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: Or public? I don't leave my house care yes, same.

1581
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: Seventy nine percent of my audience is wearing a mask

1582
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: in public. That's why all these debates about Open up

1583
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: Country is just stupid. Public. I don't leave my house

1584
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: nineteen percent and three so that's I'm counting, y'all, And

1585
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: then three percent is no, which is sad. You know,

1586
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: I don't know how they listening to this show. Uh

1587
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,879
Speaker 1: book with shoe Bay says I got a mask wardrobe,

1588
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: leaper print, red black handmade bandanas. We do too.

1589
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 3: We got a whole thing over there on the wall.

1590
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: Uh it bit Beabe says or ebit BB says, I

1591
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: got a mask on mask on mask. At this point,

1592
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: I wish I could be in a group of people

1593
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 1: that ain't leaving the house. But I gotta go to

1594
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: work despite my lungs already being jacked up. I requested

1595
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: leave from work. It was denied, so I don't leave

1596
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: the house without hand sanitized alcohol wipes and mask. I

1597
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: was recently diagnosed. Plot twist. It wasn't Corona apparently, but

1598
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: if I catched the Rona it won't be pretty. Who well,

1599
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: you're in our thoughts? Yeah, out there all right? We

1600
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: got no voicemails. We did get some emails, so I'll

1601
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: try to get through those. Uh. This is from Prath,

1602
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: who says, dear Karen and Rod. This episode episode Welcome

1603
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: to the Party, Pal twenty one two. This episode with

1604
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: Corey and Vernon was fantastic. They are hilarious and your

1605
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: collective chemistry was a joy to listen to what Corey said, no,

1606
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: don't say it to Vernon. It reminded me of looking

1607
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: at my best friend's face and knowing something problematic was

1608
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: going to leave their mouth. Regarding your sword ratchetness story

1609
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: and the term hounatics, as an Australian, I'll try to

1610
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: break down entomology. The term hoon is a hooligan or

1611
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: reckless idiot, especially a young man who drives recklessly. This

1612
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: combined with the lunatic, gives you hunatic. Having said all that,

1613
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the author made the word up, as

1614
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: even white folk down here don't use that term. Thanks

1615
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: for another great episode. PS. Correction Apparently the hoon TV

1616
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: is an Internet TV show catering to Australian equivalent of

1617
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: NASCAR and motorcycle racing enthusiasts, and their fans are called hunatics.

1618
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: White people. Shit, you learned something new about white people

1619
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: every day, Israel says. Check out this video on YouTube.

1620
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: We're catching up a podcast. I had a baby and

1621
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: wanted to share this little gym. I'm not sure you've

1622
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: ever seen it, but oh yeah, we've seen. I think

1623
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: we even played on the show the teacher that called

1624
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,480
Speaker 1: a student of nigga, and then they did that Boondocks

1625
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: episode with Riley getting called nigga by the teacher. If

1626
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: we had more time, I would play it just for

1627
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: the audience sake, so we could do it again and

1628
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: make jokes. But we really got a heart out it

1629
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: for it, so I can't do it. But yeah, they said, sorry,

1630
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention. I'm on episode nineteen eighty seven,

1631
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: walk like You're free and say, have you ever seen

1632
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: this but this nigga episode of the Boone Dogs. I

1633
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: think it was based on this news story. You are

1634
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: mine at cwg's favorite podcast. We appreciate you, Karen and Roberto,

1635
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, well, appreciate you. And like I said,

1636
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for yeah, it's yes, it's a four

1637
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: minute clip, so I probably don't have time. Let's see

1638
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: what we can do at the end. Let's go to

1639
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: the next one. Alisha says, Rod and Bossy and Karen

1640
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: laughing in the background. Please tell me you heard of this.

1641
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: My cousin put me on to it. I'm actually subscribed, Alisha,

1642
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: not the burger King loving one. Thank you my favor Alisha.

1643
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: Right now it is looking for LaToya as a podcast

1644
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: for me insecure.

1645
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I have an interstudent that subscribe people that have

1646
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 2: said this is hilarious.

1647
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. Rebecca says, good morning rider, Karen, and celebration

1648
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: of Juneteenth, I gave a little something extra to you today.

1649
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

1650
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: Like I said, we will take all the white guilt money.

1651
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm a regular support of your show and I thought

1652
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: it would be nice if today I gave a little

1653
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: more support. I live in Maine and have been to

1654
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: a lot of Black Lives Matter protests up here. So far,

1655
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: I've only there have been a lot of Black Lives

1656
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: Matters protests up here, but so far I've only been

1657
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: able to attend one. On my drive to the eye

1658
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: doctor this morning, I heard our radio announcer talking about

1659
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: a celebration of June teenth going on in Portland. They said,

1660
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: come out and have a picnic. I created the idea

1661
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: of a bunch of white people having a picnic and

1662
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: out their June Team felt very tone deaf. So I

1663
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: thought of a better way to recognize the June Team

1664
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: was to support black businesses and artists. I wanted to

1665
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: celebrate you and Karen and the many voices you bring

1666
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 1: to your show. I love the content you have and

1667
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: I know how much work goes into it. Thank you.

1668
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: Now you may be thinking white guilt, maybe, but I'm

1669
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: not looking for forgiveness of redemption. It's just, hey, you're awesome,

1670
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: and thanks for being awesome, awesome, and let's celebrate how

1671
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: awesome you are. Yeah, listen, I don't really I think

1672
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: maybe and it might just be my personality. But like

1673
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: a little bit guilt is good man, Like, you know,

1674
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: not saying it should be a whole thing. You don't

1675
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: lay your weight on other people. But and like as

1676
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: long as it's not about seeking like some level of

1677
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: forgiveness of redemption from individual black people and shit, I

1678
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: don't I mean that I'm guilty as a man, like

1679
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: a straight dude walking around in this world. There's a

1680
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: bunch of shit leaning my way that I didn't work

1681
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: for or earned, like you know, being an able body,

1682
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's a bunch of shit. So I'm not

1683
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: saying it's like some performative guilt or has to be

1684
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: this overall overarching theme to your personality, but like a

1685
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: little I think it's maybe guilt is in the best word,

1686
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: but like some recognition that this in balance is there.

1687
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad thing. There was a

1688
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: very interesting podcast I listened yesterday talking about white guilt

1689
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: and how the random gifts of money make black people

1690
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. Yeah it does for a lot of us.

1691
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: As a white person, that made me cringe. But I

1692
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: need to hear how tone death my race is. So

1693
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: when I hear dumb shit like this in my life.

1694
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I can enlighten them on the ignorance. Yeah, I'll tell

1695
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: you what. I prefer the money to the like apologies

1696
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: with no money that come. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1697
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: I prefer, motherfucker give me some money and be like,

1698
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: I am so sorry about I didn't know. Okay, I

1699
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 1: had no idea they were beating you niggas like hotcakes.

1700
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I found out today. I turned on

1701
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: the news and I don't know what I've been my

1702
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: whole life. But did you know?

1703
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 3: Did you know? I mean your ass and I'm just

1704
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 3: not finding this information out.

1705
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: You've just been coming to work like it's no big deal.

1706
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 3: I don't want that.

1707
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want Yeah, so I don't want that,

1708
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't do that, like, uh that's like if

1709
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: you know there's a sexual assault case that would like

1710
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: really big in the public, and I just start hitting

1711
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: up every woman I know, like I'm so sorry they

1712
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: is out here just sexual assault and people like what

1713
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: no like anyway? Uh So, but you know, money in

1714
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: America is the closest people gonna get the Jessice. So

1715
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna catch that check as long as you don't

1716
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: turn around and be like, and now I say nigger.

1717
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: Most of us don't care. Lots of us don't. What

1718
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: if for white people did it, they would give money

1719
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, I can say it. I gave

1720
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,959
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars to Tea with Queenn.

1721
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: And J so I invested in the blacks.

1722
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I put in quite a hefty price to the breakfast

1723
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: club the other day. If I say so, more so,

1724
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: and I can now say nigger, nigga, nigga, nigga comes,

1725
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: it's not racist anymore. So as long as that's not happening,

1726
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: I don't care. The podcast is called reply All. In

1727
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: the episode on referenson, is the least you could do?

1728
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: The girl who gave out her venmo for white people

1729
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 1: to donate to her so she can forgive them for

1730
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: their white transgressions was pretty funny till it wasn't because

1731
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that. But that girl is a

1732
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: total black capitalist and needs to be recognized. Yeah, that

1733
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: is the amount of socialist black capitalists that do shit

1734
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: like that is so funny to me. With this country,

1735
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: we're never gonna be free. There's no right choice. It

1736
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: was like, I'm a black socialist and I hate money anyway,

1737
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: hit my venmo for this free labor I've been doing

1738
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: all over Twitter's like, I don't know, because if you

1739
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: get too much money, now you're a piece of shit.

1740
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: Right Minnesota Freedom Fund trying to get people out of bail.

1741
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: People fucked around and accidentally gave too much money. Now

1742
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: they're a piece of shit. Like, I don't know what's happening.

1743
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel the need to talk call my black

1744
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: friends and ask them how they're doing. I know how

1745
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: they're doing. They're struggling. What I need to do is

1746
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: lend my voice to stay with them and vote yes anyway, love, yeah, anyway,

1747
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: Love you guys, Thank you for so much, for so much,

1748
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: for all you do. I'm gonna shut up now, love Rebecca,

1749
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Thanks Rebecca. And yeah, that tangible shit. Not to steal

1750
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: anything from the hotels, but tangible shit is what I'm on. So,

1751
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, voting, if you're marching, if you're using your

1752
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: social media to be like, hey, black lives matter, that

1753
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: kind of shit I think is more important than you know,

1754
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: some of this other shit. Adam says, Dear Rod and Karen,

1755
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: thank you for this episode with Vernon and Corey. It

1756
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: is always a joy to listen to my favorite band

1757
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: and podcasters on the show. Living Color is a national treasure.

1758
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: It's always entertaining with Corey's on the show, and I

1759
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: know I was going to be it was gonna be

1760
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: a treat. When Vernon came on the show. I had

1761
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: met him years ago when he spoke at a music

1762
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: lecture when he talked about growing up in New York

1763
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: City and when he started playing his music career and

1764
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 1: then he formed living When he foreign Living Color and

1765
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: his solo material after the lecture, there was a great

1766
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: There was a meet and greet and he was cooling

1767
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: down to earth. I just have to say that episode

1768
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: is the best of the year, and keep up the

1769
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: great work. Adam. Thanks Adam, thank you.

1770
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. They both have a lot of knowledge and like

1771
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 3: a lot of history.

1772
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, without feeling prophet story or talking down.

1773
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 3: To your Look, this is what I learned or this

1774
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 3: is what I know, what this is who I know.

1775
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: They've lived life, yes, and they just lead down to

1776
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: earth about relating it to you. I love that, you know,

1777
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: because they could they could have high sighted us and

1778
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: been on some like Nigga, we are living, we are somebody.

1779
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: Oh we got two minutes. Okay, let me add a

1780
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: session just so we can finish. I'm gonna pause real quick,

1781
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: John Wright saying Abolition Wars. Uh, that would be a

1782
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 1: good Transformer spin off. Oh, it would be war for

1783
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 1: Cybertron Abolition Wars. Good morning, Roder. Karen Rod is someone

1784
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: who works on the police reform at the local level.

1785
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for being for the deep dive discussion about

1786
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: defunding the abolition and for the valid questions the points

1787
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: you raise. The whole damn discussion has been so exhausting

1788
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: due to all the reasons you mentioned. It's a perfect

1789
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: illustration how people pick a team and then fight with

1790
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: very little interest and actually listen to the other side

1791
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,480
Speaker 1: of being honest and clear about the limitations and uncertainties

1792
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 1: of their models, while instead exaggerating the supporter that's position

1793
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: and yelling at anyone who doesn't immediately get on board.

1794
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the cold like pushing the medical

1795
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Medicare for All as an end all, be all solution

1796
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 1: to everything health care related. Oh my god, yes, yes, nigga,

1797
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: that is what it reminds me of.

1798
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 3: Shit.

1799
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like you sketched it. Itching my brain that's

1800
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: just this. Hold on, can see yourself. Yeah, oh my god,

1801
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 1: pass the ghetto. All right, alright, I guess I just

1802
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: had to take that. We're almost done, so we'll just

1803
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: do that for now. I don't know what happened. Try

1804
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: open it in a different browser, but in the background,

1805
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: because the case this happens again and we need to

1806
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 1: fix this anyway. But yes, yes, John, fucking yes, that.

1807
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 3: Is because they put these premises out there and didn't

1808
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 3: want to augue you down.

1809
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: Because then the solution has to fit everything. And when

1810
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 1: people go, I have some questions about this, and you know,

1811
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: it's like in Medicare for All, people go, well, I

1812
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: actually have really good insurance. Why would I want to

1813
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: give that up? And then it's like, oh, you piece

1814
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: of ship. Oh it's like, well, wait, isn't the whole thing.

1815
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: You won't get insurance, like you won't like I like,

1816
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: explain to me what exactly this means for me I

1817
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: should have. I can't have questions about like I need this,

1818
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,560
Speaker 1: this the my insurance pays for a certain type of

1819
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: care for my disabled daughter. And if I don't fucking

1820
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 1: have this, our quality your life is gonna be actually

1821
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: not improved. From this, and there's no way to work

1822
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: that into the bill where I can keep that blah

1823
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: blah blah. It's that type of shit, and you're like, oh,

1824
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: this is just about picking size to make matters worse.

1825
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: Activists have achieved almost rock star celebrity status in the

1826
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: world organizing Yes, so everyone picks their phase and assists

1827
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: that everything they say must be true. So you end

1828
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: up with people who agree on ninety percent of the

1829
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: terrain attacking each other based on the team people they chose. Like, yes,

1830
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm definitely moving towards abolition in general, but given the

1831
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: history of white people are perpetrating violence against marginalized group,

1832
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: have a tough time imagining the world with no police.

1833
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I just don't trust my fellow white people enough for

1834
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: k Kumbaya dream me neither. Anyways, thanks for letting me vent. Ps.

1835
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: Vernon Corey are almost as great on the podcast, Stay

1836
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: on stage with a hilarious episode Chair stay safe, John,

1837
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 1: Thanks John, Thank you.

1838
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah cause I know, I know we have to wrap up,

1839
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 2: but like, my biggest thing is the KKK ain't died.

1840
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: I hope people don't understand that there are awesome white

1841
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 2: people going oh no police and they will fucking come

1842
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: out in numbers, and you and your community community organizers,

1843
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 2: are you gonna be able to protect me? If not

1844
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: not to any funny from my perspective, what the fuck

1845
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 2: are we talking about?

1846
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's very valid, and

1847
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't believe and this could just be Look, I'm

1848
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: a black man. I understand my imagination and stuff is

1849
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,560
Speaker 1: limited by that those experiences, and so maybe you know,

1850
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: on some level, I am gonna always be not as

1851
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 1: pushing and seeing beyond the boundaries in the way that

1852
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: would make people feel like like I was the most radical,

1853
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: coolest guy in the world. I may never get there,

1854
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: but I can't see it for some of this shit

1855
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, I don't. I don't. I can't

1856
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: even envision a world where white people leave us the

1857
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: fuck alone, right, and we need some type of force

1858
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: against that. These the guns are already in our society

1859
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: and they got them, you know what I mean. So

1860
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: you know I can't. I can't imagine the world where

1861
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: no where there's no rapist. I can't imagine the world

1862
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: where's no pedophiles. I can't imagine the world where we

1863
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: just talked to them and they figure it out and go,

1864
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop molesting kids or whatever the fuck because

1865
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: y'all said I'm responsible to the community. I can't even

1866
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: imagine the world where just just the investment in all

1867
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: these social services means there is zero crime or zero

1868
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: people that abuse people and stuff. So it's just hard

1869
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: for me to imagine. You know. I will keep reading,

1870
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: I'll keep educating myself, and I'm gonna try to lean

1871
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: towards the empathy and the stuff that I already have

1872
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: in me. But it's a limit to all this shit.

1873
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not infinitely forgiving. I'm not infinitely empathetic.

1874
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: There's you know, I don't be feeling nothing when I

1875
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: see r Kel in prison. I don't feel nothing when

1876
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: I see Dylan Ruth go if he gets the it

1877
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: don't bother me at all. Like I sleep good at night.

1878
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: It's not like there's no part of me that feels like,

1879
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: like complicated about that kind of shit. So maybe I'm

1880
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: just not as woke or as liberal as some of

1881
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers. But some of this shit is like what

1882
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: needs to happen in my opinion, So I don't know.

1883
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: Monica writes, saying Hi, Rod and Karen, I hope you

1884
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: get this email on time for the feedback show. I

1885
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: developed a terrible habit of saving show to the end

1886
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: of the week. Then on Friday, I'm scrambling to listen

1887
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: to everything and standing up late to comment on the

1888
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 1: website and lead feedback. Well, this time, I'm really up

1889
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: against the clock. You was trying to turn in the

1890
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: exam at the end of the like class started this

1891
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 1: episode with the Gentleman from Living Color. Was so so excellent,

1892
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: better than I could have hoped for, and I was

1893
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: really anticipating it. It was too cool to hear those

1894
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: legendary these legendary musicians totally geek out over the segments

1895
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: and be so enthusiastic about sharing their thoughts of y'all. Yeah,

1896
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, they were so excited. Corey didn't even get

1897
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: in on us for our terrible singing. He let us

1898
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 1: slide one day. There they do, this is horrible, y'all,

1899
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: should just let me sing this ship And.

1900
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what we mean, want to

1901
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: happen to I told him we are terrible singles. I

1902
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 3: was like, you ain't got to lie. He was trying

1903
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 3: to be nice about it. I'm like, you ain't got

1904
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 3: to lie. We know we're not professional singles.

1905
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: So many funny moments. I already knew Corey's level enthusiasm

1906
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 1: from the previous show, so listening to Vernon be just

1907
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: as loud and joyful was a treat. The episode touched

1908
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: on all the worst things going on in the world,

1909
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: and yet there was an intense feeling of joy and community. Excellent.

1910
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: Ain't we lucky we got him? I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan of Vernon read on Twitter, Yes, running Vernon

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Speaker 1: be going in on Twitter Twitter, very thoughtful, love all

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Speaker 1: the thoughts on music and more. Also much appreciated his

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Speaker 1: pandemic postcard project. He let me see my city again

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Speaker 1: while I've been holed up in the apartment for three months.

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Speaker 1: I suggest people check out his Instagram. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm his Instagram friend. I gotta check the see

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Speaker 1: am I have to go check To me for waiting

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Speaker 1: too long to comment, but now cramming. But believe me,

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Speaker 1: the other episodes we have been fantastic to me. To lastly,

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Speaker 1: ride You were totally hilarious on Silent Trailers, The Keith

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Speaker 1: and the Girl Game Show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It was fun to see that, and Karen, you were

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Speaker 1: so adorable and funny on Drunk Black History last night.

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Speaker 1: It was such a joy to see you both there,

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Speaker 1: as well as comedians I love like Ray Schleiwah, Gordon

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Speaker 1: Brandon and Chris Also so nice to see the Blackoutiss

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Speaker 1: family there. Hi, Nick, ju High Brooklyn Shoe Babe, Hi Tanya, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I saw all all the crew was up in there.

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Speaker 3: Deep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one day I'll go to a live show and

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Speaker 1: be less shy in person than I am online. Love

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Speaker 1: to the whole The blackoutis Universe. Why Monica aka Manti cast,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, and just yeah, that's all the feedback.

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Speaker 1: We barely made it in Boom, so we got a roll,

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Speaker 1: we got another. We're gonna be guest on a podcast,

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Speaker 1: so thank you so much everyone for listening. Tomorrow's Father's

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Speaker 1: Day so that my dad will be on the show

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Speaker 1: with us remotely, so that we're looking forward to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then if everything goes well this week, I believe

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday we should have Jamel Hill on the show again.

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to that. So thank you guys for listening,

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Speaker 1: and you know we'll be back soon. Until that, peace

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Speaker 1: and I love you,