WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Coordinator Clash - Choose Your Fighter! 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:07.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:16.840 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:17.400 Yes? 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:22.520 Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.439 and so much for that. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.840 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:36.760 with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.000 It is Wednesday, February seventh, twenty twenty four, Season nine, 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.559 episode number one eleven. Welcome to the Laces Edition All 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.720 the Break. We're live from s WVC Borgage Studios at 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.640 the start. Brian's at the super Bowl today, but we 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.920 got the rest of the crew here. We're gonna talk about. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:53.960 Some coordinators today. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.000 It's a lot of stuff moving there, not only with 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.280 the Cowboys, but also in the division. Some Cowboy names, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.240 some players, I mean, some people who have been coordinated 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.720 for the Cowboys now moving to other places. We'll talk 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.600 about how that affects the Cowboys and uh and then 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.240 in a later part of the show, we will get 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.320 into our conversation on Dak Prescott. I've been promising for 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:13.760 two weeks and. 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:14.399 We're going to do that. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.800 So we never got the chance So my guess is 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.880 we're going to get there today. If we don't, then 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.760 we'll push it to next week. That's the beauty of 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.120 this thing is it keeps going week after week, and 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.640 we appreciate you guys being a part of it. We 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.760 may also get some calls in the final segment, so 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.399 if you do, you might want to get queued up. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.360 Number eight eight eight eight five seven two two nine seven. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:32.840 Is that right? 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.800 Eight five five, Chris producer number five eight five five 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:38.640 two nine seven. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:39.120 There we go. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.360 Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.080 I've been saying that on the air a lot lately, 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:44.160 so I got a little confused. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:45.440 Eight eight eight eight. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.440 Five five to two nine seven is the number. You 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.760 can call us and you can get queued up, and 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.280 in the final segment, maybe we'll throw you in in 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.720 the mix and you can ask our panel some questions. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:59.320 Let's start first with defensive coordinator in Dallas, Dan Quinn. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.520 He's off he has been hired by the Washington commanders. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:03.080 First, just kind of. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.960 Give me your general thoughts when you heard that he 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.120 was taking the job, that they offered the job, he 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.200 was taking the job, and he was moving on over. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:10.120 Your first thoughts. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.880 I mean, I think that in looking at it as 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.320 soon as it happened, and I wrote it on a 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.280 piece for the dot com, is that there was going 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.880 to be potentially massive fallout from that because you have 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.880 a lot of relationships on that side of the ball 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.440 between dan Quinn and his assistant coaching staff, Joe Witt 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.720 being one of them, Al Harris being another one of 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.440 those guys. So you then had to wonder, with the 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:35.560 departure of dan Quinn, who else might depart. And you know, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.040 the Cowboys had interest in interviewing Joe Witt. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.280 For the defensive court in the position. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.560 Some of the players like Trevon Diggs had interest in 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.240 the team interviewing Al Harris for the position. I'm told 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.440 they hadn't though defensive line coach Aden Dirdey, who's also 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.000 been getting interest from around the league, most recently the 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.080 Seattle Seahawks for their DC position. So you just had 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.240 to wonder, what was that overhaul going to look like 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.320 in the post dan quinn eraror And now that we 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.040 know Joe Whitt is going to go join him, so 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.160 take him out of the running for this, And now 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.440 it seems more more possible than ever, that this is 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.919 going to be an outside higher, so it likely being 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.680 an outside of higher. Now that defensive coaching staff beneath 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.040 the DC probably looking at a massive, massive shakeup, and 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.400 it provides some sense of concern with me in the 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.520 aspect of you're Mike McCarthy. You're going into what can 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.800 be just described as a proved season and now you're 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.960 going to have this massive overhaul on defensive side of 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.280 the ball. You're not going to have a lot of 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.120 time for your new coordinator to come in, put their 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.120 installs in, get their players in from free agency in 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.080 the draft that they convinced the Cowboys to sign, and 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.040 re sign some of these guys that are in the building, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.360 get your installs done, and then get these guys operating 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.520 at fever pitch as quickly as possible. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.800 Can I challenge you real quick? I don't know that. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.920 I feel like there will be a even if there's. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.400 A massive overhaul of the staff on the defensive side 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.840 of ball, I don't think they're going to come in 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.880 here with the expectation that they're going to change out 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.120 the players. I think there may be one too, maybe 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.280 three positions that that will be different. I think by 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.360 and large, this defense is his defense because they got 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.160 a ton of talent. I don't think this is going 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:12.480 to be a project where they get to come in 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.000 here and say, Okay, I want this guy, want this guy, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:14.840 want this guy, go get. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:15.120 Them for me. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.320 I see what you're saying. And here's where I would 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.720 counter that. Contractually, some of these guys are coming up 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.719 for free agency, for example, and you have rotational guys 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.680 like Nevill Galimore. He's up for a free agency. He 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.440 was an impact rotational guy. But if a new defensive 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.000 courtier comes in, does he view Neville Galamore as Dan 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.240 Quinn view Neville Galamore? 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.360 So just one example there. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.479 So, yeah, when we talk about rotational, is that what 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.720 you're saying, you're talking more rotational guys, not starters necessarily. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.560 Not necessarily, but and I agree with that, right, But 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.400 then you also have to look at the George Lewis. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.560 People like Georgan Lewis, for example, Jordan Lewis is an 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:48.039 impact starter, rotational When Deron Bland and the treva Ir 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.080 Diggs and Gilmore were to be on the field, but 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.000 with one of those guys deleted, he Jordan Lewis became 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:53.719 a starter again. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.640 Well they got they got roster spots at this point 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.920 because he got two cornerbacks that you just mentioned there 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.800 that are free agents, So yeah, you got another one. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.960 Yeah, you would love to believe Gilmore is gonna come back, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.359 but again we don't know. Number one, we don't know 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:06.880 who the DC is going to be, so we don't 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.240 know their view on a guy like Gilmore. So in 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.880 that capacity, you have to wonder how quickly and what 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.400 guys or is that defensive coordinator going to want to 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.919 retain versus say, you know what, I love what Gilmore 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.880 did for you last year, but I have a better idea. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.280 Get this guy in free agency and or get this 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.799 particular player on the draft, and then those new guys 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.680 have to come in jail quickly over the course of 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.160 the OTA's mini camp, training camp, preseason, and you kind 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.000 of have to hit the ground running as a defensive 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.039 coordinator under a head coach who at that moment is 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.600 not under contract beyond next year. So it's all got 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.719 to happen quickly. Mike Zimmer being one of the front 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.080 runner candidates. Now we got news that Rex Ryan has 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.479 been interviewed for the position. Ron Rivera was interviewed on 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.800 Monday for the position. As far as outside candidates, eight 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.800 and Dirty spoke about him. He was interviewed on Monday 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.960 as the only internal candidate. So that's what they're up against. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.440 And I have my leanings and we'll talk about that 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:55.760 in the moment. 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.520 Second, And what were your thoughts when you heard that 0:05:58.600 --> 0:05:59.320 Quaens leaving? 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.960 I mean, not very happy. I think a lot of 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.400 the people that fans that were online and given the 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.480 way that the game ended against Green Bay and the 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:17.200 way that he was coaching the defense, I get a 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.719 lot of people the frustration and how mad they wear 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.200 and all of that, but you can't forget what he 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.080 did for the defense, like he did so much for 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:33.840 this Cowboys defense. Excuse me, I started what about ten 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.719 years ago, and I've never seen this type of diffense, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.720 Like I've never seen the Cowboys defense be what it 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.359 was during dan Quinn's small era and time here with 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.760 the Cowboys. So he's done so much overall, and I 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:54.760 think he's such a player's guy, like the way that 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.400 he which I think is very very valuable when you 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.360 have someone that can relate and be so good with everybody, 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.880 like everyone wants to be on his side, type of coach, 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.000 and initially we just all assumed he was gonna be gone. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.200 Then it was kind of slowing down and you're like, okay, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.360 well maybe that means he's gonna stay all right, and 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.600 then all of a sudden, kidding, going to Washington, out 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.600 of all places, Washington. Good luck to him though, but 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:29.680 it except yeah, no, but and I know we're gonna 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:34.840 get into the coaching, the coaches options and all of that, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.360 but it's just it's a tough change because to me, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.920 right now, I know we want something to happen immediately. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.000 We want to see immediate success, immediate quote unquote because 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.760 it's been what thirty years whatever, But right now when 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.600 you make those changes, what concerns me is, Okay, how 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.160 quickly if you're bringing someone from the outside. And I 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.840 know it happened with Dan Quinn. He was pretty impactful. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.040 I made a quick impact here with the Cowboys, But 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.480 it is that concern. It was like, Okay, how long 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.440 does it take for a new person to kind of 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.160 develop what needs to be developed? For example, Mike McCarthy 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.200 him taking over the play call, and we saw some changes, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.600 but that took what six games or so for things 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.760 to start claking and so again not a full season 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.560 of him being the full play color. So it's just 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.240 that concern of like, Okay, how long is this new 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.960 change gonna take play? Or you know what I mean? 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.800 Well, let me challenge you a little bit on that too. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.040 When you say since the moment he got here, he's 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.360 had a lot of success, It's been more success than 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.600 you saw from any defense that was here in the 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.679 ten years you've been here. That also coincides with a 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.719 player that showed up that's a generational player in Michael Parsons. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.720 How much do you think that that because, by the way, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:54.360 I agree with you. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.800 I actually I tweeted. I tweeted, but I tweeted about. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.880 Mike Nolan and I was like, let's not forget what 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.560 his defense was in one year. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.400 It went from what Mike Nolan did in twenty twenty to. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.760 What he was what Dan was able to do in 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.560 twenty twenty one and beyond, like there was he made 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:14.200 a difference, but he got a transcendent player. And then 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.320 I started to question, Okay, so if it was a 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.960 combination of both, then that's where when I look at 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.440 these candidates, immediately I say I want the guys that 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.160 have done it. So I start looking at guys like Zimmer, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.680 I start looking at guys like Rivera, I start looking 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:30.760 at guys like Rex Ryan. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:31.480 I start looking at. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.240 Guys who have been successful defensive coordinators in the NFL, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.240 And I tell them the first thing I asked them 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:37.440 when I walked them into the room. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.000 Is what's your plan for Michael Parsons. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.760 That's the that's the interview aside from Micah Parsons, which 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:48.520 I completely agree. It happens simultaneously and you cannot take 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.400 that away. But something that dan Quinn was able to 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.000 do that I didn't feel like I saw with previous 0:09:55.080 --> 0:10:02.079 coaches defensive coordinators was his ability to turn players that 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:06.839 are veteran that are not necessarily good bringing through a 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.240 free agency. He was able to take guys like that 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.760 and make them have or be impactful on the field. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.560 And that's something I don't feel like we've seen in 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.719 the past that with him. He and I get it 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:24.520 like it kind of that started falling through because of injuries, though, 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.240 I mean, you cannot blame him. It gets to the 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.240 point where, Okay, you can only do so much with 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.400 the backup, backup, Like there's only so much he can do. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.439 But I think that's another element aside from Michael Parsons, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.959 that he was able to bring those players that are 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.720 not bringing your bank and your cap money and all 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.720 of that and turn them into players that can be 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.079 helpful and impactful. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.560 Yeah, and I think both of you are correct and 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.960 correct that Mike Nolan didn't have Michael Parsons, nor did 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.680 he have Treyvon Diggs. That being said, you have to 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.199 believe that dan Quinn was a part of the conversation 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.160 that helped lead Michael Parsons to Dallas. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.960 That help he made the movie got him exactly my point. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.360 So, and then you add to that the development of 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.640 late Brown picks like Deron Bland into you know, building 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.800 of staff that includes a guy like Al Harris and 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.319 Joe Whitt and bringing that coaching staff in to match 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.640 with personnel player personnel that then leads them to become 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.439 historic talents like darn Bland was able to do. And 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.440 then prior to dan Quinn, one thing that fans were 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.079 really up and arms about was the fact that you 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.440 have some of these impact veterans out there, particularly at 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.640 the safety position, that the Cowboys would not go out 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.199 and get well, guess who came in and got Malie Hooker. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.199 That happened in the dan Quinn era when the focus 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.360 and the emphasis on the value of safety really took 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.720 a step forward under dan Quinn, unlike we've seen in 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:43.760 recent court industry. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:44.680 Right. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.320 So that's the type of culture change that you that 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.560 you lose with dan Quinn, not to say you won't 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.960 gain it in someone that's proven, like a Zimmer or Ryan, 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.400 but until we see it, we haven't seen it, So 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.960 therein lies the concern. So you both are correct, but 0:11:58.160 --> 0:11:59.800 it's it's one of those things where you don't know 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.560 too you know, and we won't know and too we know. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.920 Well, what we've seen is those guys coordinate really good defenses. Yeah, 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.880 we've seen that. And that's where again this is not 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.440 a knock on Joe widd Jr. The fact of the 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.200 matter is, though, because he has not had that role, 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.120 I personally would have been a little hesitant to make 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.280 him my defensive coordinator because. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.760 I'd have been like, I think, I think I'm almost there, 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.120 like and. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:24.400 I don't I don't want to say that the wrong 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:25.720 way because I know fans are kind of like, oh, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.880 here we go again. It's not that I think the 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:29.840 Cowboys are ready for the Super Bowl. We've all kind 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.800 of talked that ad nauseum. I do think they have 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.200 enough talent to be competitive in the NFL, which means, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.600 as I said telling someone yesterday, if you can get 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.560 to the playoffs in the NFL, you got a shot, right. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.760 And so I think from that standpoint, the Cowboys have 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.240 to look at this and say, this is not a rebuild, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.640 this is a can we get the right piece that 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.520 puts us over that long right? 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.360 Yeah? Can we can we get those right pieces? 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.080 So I don't want to I don't want to take 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.640 a step back by hiring a defensive coordinator that maybe 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.440 doesn't have the experience and then have to go through 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.480 the growing pains with them. I'd rather take somebody I 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.560 can look at their experience, I can see exactly what 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.440 they did as a defensive coordinator, and. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.280 I can bring them in to do that. There's also 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.160 a flip side to that. 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.240 Mike Nolan was a defensive coordinator who was very experienced, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.079 and it'd been very good, good enough to get a 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.000 head coaching job. And that year in twenty twenty, maybe 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.560 it was the year, it was a crazy year. We 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.760 all know that, so maybe that was a part of it, 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.840 but for whatever reason, it didn't translate to success here. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.640 So all those things have to be factored in. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.040 But I do like the idea of maybe looking at 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.240 some of these guys who have been defensive coordinators and 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.280 successful defensive coordinators in the NFL and figuring out which 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.920 one has the best plan for Michael Parson. That to 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.200 me is where this decision needs to. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.000 Be made, and that's going to be very interesting point 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.080 of attack for whatever DC comes in, because, like you said, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.079 are you playing him at off ball more often than not? 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.440 Or are you going to drop him down and make 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.719 him a defensive end more often than not? Because your 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.520 decision there is going to largely impact the ripple effects 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:55.760 that come out of that as far as the rest 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.360 of your defense is concerned. You are getting Trevon Diggs back, 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.160 but you're getting him back from a twenty ACL that's 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.760 going to require some time, which then kind of goes 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.000 to my earlier point about do you keep Jordan Lewis. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.720 I would, doesn't necessarily mean the new DC would, because 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.520 they're going to come in with their own ideas for 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.640 both staff and personnel. For example, if you flip it 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.040 to the Washington commander's side of the equation and how 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.480 that would impact the Cowboys. We talk about relationships. Dan Quinn, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.520 he has a great relationship with Dante Fowler Atlanta, Dallas. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.880 Does Dante Fowler, who's now an understricted free agent and 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.200 barring a deal happening before between now and much, does 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:27.680 he follow dan Quinn? 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.920 Does jay Ron Curse follow dan Quinn? 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:30.720 Darrence Armstrong? 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.560 Does Darrins Armstrong follow dan Quinn? 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.280 Now, I will say it's not entirely unlikely, but a 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.680 little less likely for Dorrance because Durrance has such a 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.080 strong relationship. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:39.760 With the organization itself. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.480 Yeah, but I'll see it. At the same time, money 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.240 is money, and not only that. What we know what 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.360 players is they look for coaches who know how to 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.440 use them the best. And Durrance's Armstrong took a Dorn's 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.120 Armstrong's career took a jump when he was working in 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.360 Dwayne dan Quinn's defense as a part time player, like 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.320 not even as a starter. And so I think from 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.000 that standpoint that has to be factory, and I assume 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:00.920 that will be factored in when he's making a decision. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:02.560 I could see that, and I'll add a little bit 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.480 to that because it just popped in my head as well. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.560 When you look at what Dorin Soarmstrong has gone through 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.320 as far as the number of defensive coordinators that he's 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.080 had in his time with the Cowboys, do you want 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.840 to take on another or do you simply want to 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.240 follow the guy that so to your point one hundred percent, 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.880 so you just wonder how everything shakes up. But dan 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.200 Quinn was a culture changing with the Cowboys. I get it. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.080 Recently biased makes fans pissed off at him and and 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.200 justifiably so be pissed off at everybody who was involved 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:33.320 in that loss against the Packers, including him. You did 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:37.960 not have that, and you Jakson ahead of time. But 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.240 that being said, there was a there was a reason. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:48.280 Just wait, wait you are thirty. Wow, Wait a minute, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.480 they're blaming they're blaming rowdy, but the math is the math. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.080 Wow. Okay, Wow, I'm joking. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:55.240 I'm not. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.880 Okay, okay, you know you're just. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.480 Asking for it, are you right? I'm not asking. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.120 I'll close with this, there is a reason that the 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.920 Cowboys held off and allowed dan Quinn to make his 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.640 decision because they really were hoping that he would return 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.200 for all of the good things that you said, all 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.440 of the good things that you said. So while things 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.880 did not end well, fact is dan Quinn came in 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.640 hit the ground running, and you hope that whomever follows 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.160 him can also hit the ground running, especially because Mike 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.680 McCarthy does not have a contract beyond twenty four. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.480 It all has to happen right now. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.360 All right, let's take our first break, will come back, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.080 and I want to throw out some of these names, 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.680 and I want to get you guys to give us 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.080 your opinions on who you think would be the best 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.840 fit based on the things that you know. Well, then 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.640 when we come back Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.240 Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.960 Cheat of Savannah. 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