WEBVTT - The Happy Girl (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Solve Presents The Happy Girl Part two. Hello, come on in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it last session? It is indeed last mandatory session.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the record is saying that I think your

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<v Speaker 1>therapy should continue. So how's the case going. It's taking

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<v Speaker 1>some turns, that's for sure. What I'm trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out now is what's that on your shirt where you're

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<v Speaker 1>right sleeve? Oh? Nothing, it looked like blood. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>nicked myself shaving earlier. Your knuckles are bloody as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not that big a deal you hit someone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not what you think. Seriously, we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>get into this. This is exactly the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>we have to get into. Now, tell me what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? I guess it all started four days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kira was suicidal and hired someone to kill her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a new one. Maybe she was afraid she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go through it herself. More importantly, who replied to the ad?

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<v Speaker 1>These Craigslist email chains are anonymous? He didn't give her

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<v Speaker 1>any contact infoe Maybe he did, but she deleted it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we only have this much because she left

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<v Speaker 1>it in her drafts folder. We can subpoena Craigslist for

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<v Speaker 1>the full thread and the email addressed on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of this good until then her phone and he

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<v Speaker 1>calls her text from someone we don't know. It started

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<v Speaker 1>about two months ago. Let's see. Uh, she does have

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<v Speaker 1>some phone calls with someone named Garrett. Looks like the

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<v Speaker 1>first call was on January twenty, same day as those

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<v Speaker 1>emails ship that we were supposed to go in from

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<v Speaker 1>the Lust side, the Lust come on, kick It, kick

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<v Speaker 1>it booted ship with come on hey girl during the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry to sneak up on you down here, your

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<v Speaker 1>mom let us in. Who are you guys? Homicide detectives.

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<v Speaker 1>We're investigating the death of Kara Matthews. Who's that? You

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<v Speaker 1>know who she is, don't you? Their numbers all over

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<v Speaker 1>her phone? Oh um Kira, Yeah, yeah, see I do

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<v Speaker 1>internet tech support for prison. Kira had so many problems

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<v Speaker 1>with her connection that I just I ended up giving

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<v Speaker 1>her my direct line. Oh my god, she's dead. She

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<v Speaker 1>had received calls from you too. Is that typical calling customers?

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we get disconnected. The signal was really crappy down here,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll have to call them back. So, just to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, you didn't know her personally, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't didn't know her at all. Okay, well, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for clearing that up, Garrett, and we are very sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to interrupt your game. So he's lying, Oh yeah, Craig,

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<v Speaker 1>lest should get back to us soon to confirmed. Garrett's

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end of those emails. And in the meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>location dot on her phone not just towers, find out

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<v Speaker 1>if her phone joined any WiFi networks the night she

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<v Speaker 1>was killed. Way more accurate on it. And okay, and well,

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<v Speaker 1>in the interest of productive use of time, I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>we asked Tom to come in our new prime. Suspect

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<v Speaker 1>is down in that basement. I can feel it in

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<v Speaker 1>my bones. I share that feeling. I do, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to solve this case based on feelings. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you said he's not a suspect, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>just clear him and be done with it. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>can at least shed some light on any mental health

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<v Speaker 1>issues here might have had. I just had a scene

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<v Speaker 1>over there, Tom, So, is is there any news? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we found something and we should warn you. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's disturbing. What is it? Before Kira died, she placed

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<v Speaker 1>a personal ad online she wanted to hire someone to

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<v Speaker 1>kill her. Why the hell would she do that? Seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a assisted suicide situation. Okay, did Kira

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<v Speaker 1>have a history of depression? I don't think so. But

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't really talk about that kind of stuff. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really our relationship. Yeah, m hmm, Tom, where were

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<v Speaker 1>you on the night of Are you fucking serious? We

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<v Speaker 1>ask everybody this, You really think I could kill my

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<v Speaker 1>own daughter? I've got to cover all my bases, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home the whole night, yes, so nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else can corroborate this. I was by myself the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to interrupt detectives, he said to let you

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<v Speaker 1>know as soon as it came in, Can you excuse

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<v Speaker 1>us time? Thanks? Thanks that the email address of who

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<v Speaker 1>replied to Kira's ad? Yep, Well this is why you

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<v Speaker 1>always go with your gut. Watkins start talking. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>replied to the ad, but I was never going to

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<v Speaker 1>go through with it. You reply to an ad where

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<v Speaker 1>someone says they'll give you a thousand dollars to kill them,

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<v Speaker 1>and your plan was what I wanted to help her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did. I talked her out of it. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you manage that? We started talking and we had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in common. We became friends. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff does an eighteen year old girl have in common

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<v Speaker 1>with a man in his thirties. We we were both gamers,

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<v Speaker 1>both really in a true crime. True crime like podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>podcast documentaries, you name it. Kiro was obsessed with that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's why, why what, Garrett? That's why she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to stage her own death. You guys know all those

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<v Speaker 1>shows about girls who are mysteriously murdered. Well, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Kira wanted. It a Netflix special all about her. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would she want that? When I first started talking to Kira,

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<v Speaker 1>she was really sad, you know, really low self worth.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess she just wanted to be to be remembered.

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<v Speaker 1>So you respond to the ad and instead of going

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<v Speaker 1>through with it, you swoop in like a white Knight

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<v Speaker 1>and save her. Is that your story? I know it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds crazy, but it's the truth. No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you really cared for her, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>more than her boyfriend did. Look, I know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting at, and I already have a girlfriend. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>got the bullshit, huh, page you a thousand dollars gave

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<v Speaker 1>you her boyfriend's gun and you shot her in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the head. And can you excuse us, Garrett?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna cut me off every time I get

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<v Speaker 1>hot in there, I've got news for you. We won't

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<v Speaker 1>get a confession. He wasn't going to confess. Look, let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep this simple. If you think he's our guy, charge him.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, you've got to cut him loose. Like Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think I I think I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>poke holes in a story. First, d A might want

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<v Speaker 1>to put him at the crime scene. Well, what did

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett's mother say? She says she heard him playing video

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<v Speaker 1>games all night. She hasn't saw him yet, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>sure of it. He could have just left her game on,

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<v Speaker 1>slipped out of the house. The money one dollars, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we need. Until then, we'll tell him not to

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<v Speaker 1>leave town. We'll pick him back up when we have

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<v Speaker 1>more facts. It was hell, no, okay, let him go.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm right, we'll be dragging him out of

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<v Speaker 1>his mom's basement in a couple of days. Hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we never got to finish that interview with Tom again

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<v Speaker 1>with this, when we have our prime suspect in our sights,

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<v Speaker 1>tying off all our loose ends will make the case

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<v Speaker 1>against scared even stronger. Tom volunteered that he was a

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<v Speaker 1>ship dad, and he showed remorse for it. I heard

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<v Speaker 1>nothing suspicious. You also said he's an alcoholic. Your point,

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholics are liars. You know. I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>digging into your personal history here, but if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to guess, I'd say you're doing some projecting, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say you have a blind spot for your friend detectives.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a problem out front. Hey, break that, Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>Get off him? Oh what did I do to you?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? Would you do? You killed tiof?

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<v Speaker 1>Take enough? How do you know he was here? My

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<v Speaker 1>buddy Pete lives across the street from him. He says

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<v Speaker 1>he saw you guys hauling this tub of ship out

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<v Speaker 1>of his house. He killed her, right, No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I knew she was cheating on me. I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't think it was with some loser like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a walk, Jason, now, Garrett, get inside. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>someone drive you home. The location data from cures cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone just came in. You're right. Her phone did join

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<v Speaker 1>a WiFi network that night. Well, which one of those

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<v Speaker 1>two do I have to grab neither? Who's that with

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<v Speaker 1>a hard eye emojis on your caller? I d Abby boyfriend? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Um enough, I want to Detective Flaherty is very nosy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not nosy. I'm curious. I like to know things.

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<v Speaker 1>How to play tectonics work? Why is the sky blue?

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<v Speaker 1>And why did you lie to us about seeing Kia

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<v Speaker 1>the night she was murdered? I am I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get in trouble. And why would you get in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble because I I was the one who gave her

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<v Speaker 1>the drugs that night? Okay, Mabby, tell us what really

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<v Speaker 1>happened that night. Let's start with where you got the drugs?

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<v Speaker 1>Just some dealer. I don't know his name? Was it Garrett?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You don't know, or you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who that is? Both? I guess. So Kira comes over,

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<v Speaker 1>you do some molly, then what h We're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a party, but I caught a bad buzz

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<v Speaker 1>and wanted to stay in, so she left on her own.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where she went. The other day, you

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<v Speaker 1>said you wouldn't describe Kira as a happy girl. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you mean by that? It just meant Kira had

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<v Speaker 1>a dark side. We heard she was a true crime addict. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we both were. We used to joke we can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>the name of someone we just met, but can run

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<v Speaker 1>off all of Casey's victims. I never got that. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it with young girls being so into murder these days?

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, um, just something fascinating about these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>We were even going to start a podcast. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be just like Sara Kanick and Julie Snyder and

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<v Speaker 1>Cereal and all of this talk about death. Did Kira

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<v Speaker 1>ever talk about her own? You're asking if she was suicidal?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but she could get sad sometimes. Look

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<v Speaker 1>her whole life. People have been screwing her over. Hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Watkins, why don't you go grab the pronounce of

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<v Speaker 1>that ad? Kira posted, Uh, sure you're back. You know Abby.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting really sick and tired of people lying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not lying. That's what you said last time. So

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<v Speaker 1>what aren't you telling us this time? Nothing? I'm see see.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I hate. I tell someone not to lie

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<v Speaker 1>and they keep doing it anyway. Now, what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know is why, why who are you protecting? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it Garrett, I told you I don't know who that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Someone else, yourself? Maybe what I didn't kill? Your best

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<v Speaker 1>friend is dead and you're only telling us facts that

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<v Speaker 1>are convenient for you. How do I know that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't kill her? I didn't had What is going on? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>Go on? Get out of here. M h Can I

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<v Speaker 1>get for you? Scotch? Hey? Tom, I thought i'd find

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<v Speaker 1>you here. Yeah, well old comforts? Can you heard? It

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<v Speaker 1>has judgment? No? No, I'd say now is the time

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<v Speaker 1>for old comforts. You can get on the wagon later

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<v Speaker 1>here to Cia. Are you gonna find my daughter's killer

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<v Speaker 1>or not? Mike, No, we're trying. We've had some leads.

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<v Speaker 1>They just they keep turning up to be dead ends.

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<v Speaker 1>She was suicidal. I'm a little girl. Yeah, because of me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. We don't have the full picture yet.

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<v Speaker 1>If I wasn't there for her, then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for her now. I'll find the sun of

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<v Speaker 1>a bitch. Who did this? Come on myself? Hey, watch

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<v Speaker 1>your man? You sprayed it all over me. You watch

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<v Speaker 1>an asshole? What did you say to me? Hey? We're

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<v Speaker 1>fine here. Sorry with my friend, he's a little spilly,

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<v Speaker 1>just he's going through a lot. Yeah, so give me

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<v Speaker 1>some space. Well, hey, well what's going on here? These

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<v Speaker 1>two little bitches were bitches. You're the one complaining that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a little bit of beer spill on your

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<v Speaker 1>dress there, Nancy, Why don't you say that again and

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens to you? Hey, be careful. This guy's

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<v Speaker 1>a cop, is that right? Come on, don't listen to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's drunk, all right? Hey, I really liked that bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have to go and gosh it? Mikey wow?

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to stick up for you, idiot, right, Yeah, thanks, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a good friend. I crashed at Thomson came right here,

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<v Speaker 1>so I I didn't have a chance to change my shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>And were you just sticking up for your friend or

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<v Speaker 1>did you feel like you wanted to punch someone? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of both. I did feel like a release.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think the police board will feel about it?

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to report this. I have to report this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in court mandated anger management therapy because you beat

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<v Speaker 1>up the prime suspect in your last murder trial. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>already confess I didn't stop the defense from getting him off,

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<v Speaker 1>did it? Behavior like this is ex actly when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to flag. But it didn't have anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the case. Not this time, Suzanne. Listen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to be the one who catches Karen's killer. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to finish this technically. I have twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours to report this. Thank you. Two hours. That's it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want you back in here next week. You

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<v Speaker 1>got it? Thanks again? Hey, rough night, I didn't sleep much.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets that way sometimes in a case. Larity, Superintendent,

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<v Speaker 1>the good One girl is here at the front desk,

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<v Speaker 1>said she left her phone in the interrogation room. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>uh right, yeah, thanks, I'll go get it. I'll come with.

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<v Speaker 1>I should apologize for chasing her out like that. Okay, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>phone's still here. It's Mr hart I emoji. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should pick up. See what he knows? Flat, don't. Finally

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<v Speaker 1>you pick up? I must have called you after times.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this? What's this? Tom? Detective Michael Flaherty was

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<v Speaker 1>played by Michael Trayner. Detective Lisa Watkins by the law batter,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Matthews by Jason huber Kia Matthews by Gina Vittori.

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<v Speaker 1>Abby Goodwin by Lexi di Benedetto Gart Craig by Scott Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Jason Kemp by Eric Lopez, Suzanne by Aaron Coker,

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<v Speaker 1>Superintendent Brian Locke by Darren Cooper. This episode of Solve

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<v Speaker 1>was written and directed by Corey Serge. Executive produced by

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Serge, Executive produced by Walt Palmer and Sterling Barnett.

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<v Speaker 1>Casting by Daisy Laura. Audio production and post production by

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<v Speaker 1>Salt Audio production manager Liz LeMay, Recording engineer Zack Jurich,

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<v Speaker 1>Hope Brush, and John Schmidt. Original music and score by

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Turchon, Edited and mixed by Zack Jurich. Assistant editor

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<v Speaker 1>shy han Zu. Sound designed by Eric Rachelson. Script supervisor

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<v Speaker 1>Marilyn Miller