1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Your tuned about drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: Back on the drive, here into the phone lines, we 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: go to welcome a very special guest. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: If you've been. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: A regular listener of the Steelers Audio Network, if you 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: are a Steelers junkie, you know anything in between, you 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: obviously know the name Arthur Motes. Used to be a 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: host here on this network. Now he's doing stuff in 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: the stadium and Katie Ka on TV, getting that handsome 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: face out there. Still still living the dream one day 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: at a time. And of course he played for Mike 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Tomlin for four years as a member of your Pittsburgh Steelers. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: The great Arthur Motes Motes, what's up, dude, Thanks for 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: taking the time to join us here. Man. 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: First off, it's always good to hear that voice in mind. Man, 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: how the heck are y'all doing me? 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Dude? 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: You dumped them on me. I'm stuck with them every day. 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: Now your toes man. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: But you're good hands regardless, without a doubt. The three 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: of us had some fun in the past doing some 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: combine shows, OTAs and trading camp and all that stuff. 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: Good to have you here with us. Motzi. Thank you 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: again for taking the time, and obviously, you know we 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: want to talk to you about Mike Tomlin and nineteen 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: years in the books. I was still in high school 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: when when Mike Tomlin was hired by the Steelers. I 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: think you might have been either like a senior or 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: you were in college at that time. So let's just 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: kind of you know, thirty thousand foot initial reaction when 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin announced that he was stepping down nineteen years Uh, 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: an incredible tenure, a super Bowl, a bunch of division titles, 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: no losing seasons. What was just kind of your initial 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: reaction when the news broke on Tuesday? 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, for me, I'm surprised, more so just at 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the timing of it. I don't think that it was 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: something to me that was completely off the table, but 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: it was just more so surprising. But when I finally 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: got a chance to like settle with it, it was 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: more so just proud of him. Man. I mean, you know, 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: I love coach Tomas. This is my, like I said, 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: my guy man coaching for four years. I've known this 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: guy for even longer than that, even going back to 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: my collegiate time just with us bothing from the same 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: hometown right in the seven five to seven back in 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: the Virginia. So for me Man to see, you know, 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: you come in as a guy that had never been 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL level, and in your 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: first opportunity, you go nineteen seasons and like everything you 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: just wrote off right, one hundred and ninety three wins, 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: never had to lose in season eight division titles, a 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl championship. I'm like, Man, if any coach that 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: we hire going forward gives us that man, we'll be 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: saying the exact same things about that guy. So when 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I think of that, that's the reason why I'm just 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: so proud of everything that he was able to accomplish, 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: and more importantly, being able to walk away on top 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: of the division. It's like, Man, we know everybody wants 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl, but even if you fell 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: short of that, the fact that you still walking away 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: with ten wins AFC North champ again, it's like, Man, 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: go out on top, goalt the way that you want 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: to go out, even if it's not necessarily storybook. To me, 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: this is the next best day. 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: So so many people and I think it's true, but 67 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: I just wanted to hear it from a former player 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: rave about coach Tomlin's communication skills, the way he talks 69 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: to every player, coach et cetera understands what makes you 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: guys tick? Is that pretty true? 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh? One thousand percent. Yeah, that's the reason also why 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: he's able to connect with us as much as he does, 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: because he personalizes that message. It's very easy to see 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: somebody that is not authentic, and when their level of 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: motivation it starts to be shown as man this is 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: more cookie cutter versus authentic, customized, And just from our 77 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: personal experiences, I can think back to how he would 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: address me and how he would motivate me certain elements. 79 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: But then a guy I'm sitting right next to he 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: was gonna motivate them in a completely different way, and 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: so forth and so And when you see a guy 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: that's able to do that but with true authenticity, and 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: he's not just bringing up general stuff, he's speaking directly 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: to you. That's why all of the guys that have 85 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: played for him speak as highly as we do of him, 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: and we all have that personal emotional tie to him 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: as well, because when we say he's the leader of men, 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: that's truly what it is. I mean, you're talking about 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: being in a room full of alpha metals that all 90 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: have kicked a ton of butts in terms of their 91 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: physical play, and then financially, it's like, man, we're also 92 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: guys that have you know, a good amount of financial 93 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: backing as well. So to come in and be able 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: to communicate, to hold these guys accountable, to be able 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: to discipline, to be able to direct them and keep 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: them on the right path, that also is extremely challenging 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: to do. And to think about some of the personalities 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: that have come through that locker room. Some of my 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: tevates guys have to be as well. It's like that 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: just kind of gets swept under the rug because of 101 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: how awesome he was from a coaching standpoint in terms 102 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: of the wins and losses. 103 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: Motes. 104 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: You started your career with the Buffalo Bills, the team 105 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: that drafted you four years there and then signed with 106 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. How big was Mike Tomlin in that 107 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: equation in that decision for you to decide to sign 108 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: in the Black and Gold whenever you had that opportunity 109 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: after your rookie contract expired in Buffalo. 110 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to be completely transparent. He was the reason, 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: the only reason, because there was more money on the 112 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: table in Cleveland and in New England with offers. But 113 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: it literally was Man, it's seventy five to seven number. 114 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Call on my phone and I hear O Coach Thomlins say, Hey, 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: party Town, Peetown. Man, what's up baby. I know you 116 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: used to rush that pass back in college, but hey, 117 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: if you come on down here take this minimum deal, man, 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I'll make it rent for you on the back end. 119 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: And I spent thinking to myself, Nah, I love coach 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Toimlin from before. I've never you know, got a chance 121 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: to have these type of conversations with him. But the 122 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: fact that he remembers me from this and that he 123 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: knows my hometown and this dude is Coach Tomlin. Yes, 124 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: I will take the vet minimal. I'm gonna tell my 125 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: pregnant wife at the talk, Dude, we're gonna take less 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: money and it's not guaranteed. But Coach Tomblin, all right, 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: Coach Tomblin, he's from the hometown. He said. If I 128 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: do what I'm supposed to do, he will take care 129 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: of me on the back end. We're gonna go and 130 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: do this thing. And I just remember the look on 131 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: her face and it's like, are you serious? But her 132 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: trusted me, and ultimately my trusting coach Tomlin was the 133 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: biggest reason why we made that decision to come here. 134 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: And he holds you to his words. You know, I 135 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: did what I was supposed to do on the field, 136 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: but he also did what he was supposed to do 137 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: in terms of creating opportunities and more importantly making sure 138 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: financially when those negotiations came back around the next time. 139 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: He was also gonna make sure that I was you know, 140 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: compensated at a lover. That made me really really happy. 141 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: So when I think of that, that is one of 142 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: my you know, favor decisions that I have ever made 143 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: in my life because of everything that led into it, 144 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: and then just happened to trust a person that I 145 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: hold to such high regard even before I had ever 146 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: met him in person. It was just the reverence of 147 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: them because of who he is and who he was 148 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: even back then. So when I think of that as 149 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: just like, man, excellent decision right there. No, it was 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: some other decisions that weren't so good, but that were 151 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: right there. Yes, love that decision. 152 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: That's so cool. Arthur, how much does it stick with 153 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: you from coach Tomlins just football knowledge, not his leadership 154 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: or the way communicated. I think everybody knows that stuff, 155 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: but just his fundamentals, his scheming, you know, just x's 156 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: and o's and how to attack quarterbacks and just football stuff. 157 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, so much of that is stuck with me. 158 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I always prided myself well being 159 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: a high football intellect guy. I felt like, man, I 160 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: know so many schemes because of my experiences having to 161 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: plan a fourth, having a planet three four, having different 162 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: coordinators playing in different positions in those and just understanding 163 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: the big puzzle. But then when I come to Pittsburgh 164 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: and I get around Dick Level, I get around Coach 165 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Tomlin and just listening to how Coach Tomlin would talk, 166 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: and it grew more than just the simple X and 167 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: oh of what this call is, and it became more 168 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: of what we are trying to take away and why 169 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: we're trying to take it away. Situational football. Man, if 170 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: it's short yarded situation, if you're in the red zone area, 171 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to get beat to the flat? Why 172 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: because the field condensed it so you're not as concerned 173 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: with the vertical threat, but now the field laterally becomes 174 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: the hotspots. So just things like that, understanding pressure packages, 175 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: understanding the importance of being able to create pressure with 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: four or having the blitz or even simulated pressures, and 177 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: how all of them work together pros and constant each 178 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: That was the thing that I really just appreciated being 179 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: around coach Tomlin and hearing that type of just even 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: doctor level you know x's and those or just higher 181 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: levels scheme thoughts that for me, first I wasn't even 182 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: introduced to all the way, even though I thought I was. 183 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of life France. You think that 184 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: you know all of it, and then you meet somebody 185 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, wow, well than I even know right now, 186 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: And that's coach Tomlin. And that's why, you know, it 187 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: was funny that he gets such a label of being 188 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: a player's coach, because to me, I'm like, this is 189 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: one of the sharpest football minds that I've ever been around. 190 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: That's great insight certainly, and so to kind of bigger 191 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: picture now for you, because by the way, Steeler's former 192 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: linebacker legend Arthur motes with us here for a couple 193 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: more minutes on the drive. 194 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: Just a friend, just a friend of whats and Matt 195 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: just a friend. 196 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: Of the guys, friend, a friend of the show, friend 197 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: of the organization, friend in real life, uh to kind 198 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: of you know, we we've obviously spent some time this week, 199 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: as you can imagine, talking about if you were someone 200 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: interviewing for the Steelers job, what would be the pros, 201 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: what would you really like, what would be the cons 202 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: be your concerns. One of the things that we obviously 203 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: listed right away on the pro's list was just the 204 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: organizational stability that the Steelers have from an ownership standpoint, 205 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: from a patient standpoint, obviously paired with the history and 206 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: the tradition. But we all know Mike Tomlin was there 207 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: for nineteen years, Bill Cower was there for fifteen years, 208 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: a very stable, non knee jerk to use a big 209 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: word there. Organization. Yeah, And obviously you spent time with Buffalo, 210 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: which was a much different Buffalo Bill's organization at that 211 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: time than it is now, certainly, and you kind of 212 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: ended your career with the Arizona Cardinals. Would you agree 213 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: with would you agree with that? Like when Matt and 214 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: I say, for an outside candidate, the stability of the 215 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: Steelers organization is going to be very attractive. You came 216 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: here from the outside, The Steelers were not the team 217 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: that drafted you at first. You had been with two 218 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: other organizations that were not you know, is stable as 219 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers organization? Are Are we right in that? 220 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: And what did you kind of experience in that regard 221 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: in your time in Pittsburgh versus the other places you 222 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: were at. 223 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: No, that's definitely the thing that stands out the most 224 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: when you just think about the Steelers, regardless of coach 225 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: right now, as long as there's been a Roonie in 226 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, in ownership, in control, patience, stability, calm and 227 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: as a player, that was something that was extremely exciting 228 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: to me because, as you said, man, this league there 229 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: is so much turno when you look around every two 230 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: to three years, there are new coaches, new players, everything, 231 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: organizations doing mass overhauls. So that was one of the 232 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: other things that was exciting about coming to Pittsburgh was 233 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the fact that coach Smlin had been here for as 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: long as he had been, that there was the same 235 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: ownership here that had been Because in Buffalo I had 236 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: experienced with two head coaches in four years, two general 237 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: managers of four years and two and a half had 238 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: coaches in four years, three defensive coordators in four years, 239 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,119 Speaker 1: so you could see it wasn't a lot of stability. 240 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: And within two years of me leaving the organization they 241 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: switched ownership. So I was really drawn to the stability. 242 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: And I do feel like for coaches that is going 243 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: to be a big draw because we know this is 244 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: one of the toughest leagues to win in, and to 245 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: do it on a year in, year out basis, it 246 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: challenges with that. We know quarterback matters, and we know 247 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: that even though this roster has a lot of talent, 248 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: there's still gonna be questions at some very significant positions, 249 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: and for certain coaches, they want to know that will 250 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: I have time to figure that out. I don't want 251 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: to sign up if I'm only going to get two 252 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: years and then you decide to go in a different 253 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: direction and cut my legs out before I can really 254 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: develop anything. So that will be very, very exciting for 255 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: whoever the organization decides on. 256 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: So last thing I got for you, Moochiez. You talked 257 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: about how he treats all the players different he takes 258 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: it personally. He knows all the guys and their personalities, 259 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: what makes him tick. But I would bet the same 260 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: is true for the Steelers' opponents. You know, he's been 261 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: in the league so long. Man, Man, I know that 262 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 3: coordinator if we can do this to them, he'll crack. 263 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: Or that quarterback if we hit him twice early in 264 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: the game. I would think that that reflects to game 265 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: planning against your opponents too. 266 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh, you're absolutely right, and that is the fun part 267 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: as well. For you know me, when I came over, 268 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: I was already four years in the NFL, so I 269 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: was already starting to build up some confidence and just 270 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: understanding of players, coaches, codinators, and to come into Pittsburgh 271 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: and to just hear how coach Tomblin can tell you 272 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: about this guy and the history of this guy and 273 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: this player in the history of this player, and Okay, 274 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: they're from this type of family. So that is why 275 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: this or even his emphasis on wanting players that are 276 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: either coming from families that had other people be professional 277 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: or a father that played professionally, why because of just 278 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: their understanding of the game, they're understanding of how to 279 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: take care of their body or the business stuff, And 280 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: that's the little nuance that when you're listening to him, 281 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: it's like, how did you get there? But when you 282 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: think of how long he's been in this process, that's 283 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: a big part of it. One of the things that 284 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: also stood out in that you can attest to this. 285 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: We all go to the combines and one of the 286 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: things that we've heard from coach Toman is he'll interview 287 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: players that he knows they don't draft right there, but 288 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: he's doing it because he wants to build a profile 289 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: on him. He'll go to their pro days because he 290 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: wants to see them move in person, even though he knows, 291 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm not drafting this guy this year. I probably won't 292 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: get a chance to touch him for the next four years, 293 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: but I'm going to see him and I want to 294 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: just see what that looks like. It just got an 295 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: idea for it, and so absolutely so those are some 296 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: of the things that he does to just stay ahead 297 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: of it. And that's also part of when we hear him, 298 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, when I talk about just how he stays 299 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: innovative and just different ways to stay current. Even though 300 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: you've been at one spot for so long, how do 301 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: you stay up to date? Those are some of the 302 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: things so absolutely man, and like I said, as a player, 303 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: as a competitor, all of that is exciting. All of 304 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: that is is intriguing because you you want to coach 305 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: that once it just as bad or more than you do. 306 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: You want a coach is going to know more than 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: you do. You don't want to ever go to your 308 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: coach and say, hey, coach, what about this and he's like, oh, 309 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: hold on, I don't know that. That's a bad feeling. Well, coach, Tomman, 310 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I could tell you first that I've never heard of 311 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: say hey, I don't know, let me come back to 312 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: you with that, like he always has the answer. And 313 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: that's a very very secure Philly full of player's perspectives. 314 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: Great stuff with the nine nine year NFL VET Arthur Modes. Dude, 315 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: thank you for taking the time. Great hearing your voice 316 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: and catching up with you. We'll do this again soon 317 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: and tell the family we said hello. 318 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Man, you already don't love both of y'all. Be I 319 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: hope both y'all keep killing it. Man, appreciate the opportunity 320 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: as well. 321 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: Man, thank you for the time. Motesy, thank you very much. 322 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: There he goes. Stealers legend Steelers alumni, former linebacker nine 323 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: years in the league, former host on this station. Yeah, 324 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: now you can see the KDKA TV. He's at the stadium. 325 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: He's doing a million different things, as always, the great 326 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: Arthur Motes. That was a lot of fun, fine