1 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: in Burree, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily ESPN Cleveland. 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigoro. Okay, 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: let's do it live on a Friday edition to clear 5 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: the Brown's Daily merely Bow and the Great GiB A. 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Here's he playing golf, A nice little, nice little day 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: for him as we wrap up the summer. Is he 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: playing golf for Chicago? Well, is in Chicago, but he's 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: in the rain. I mean it's this is an ideal. 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: The circumstances are not ideal. I've heard from him this morning. 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: It's a downpour in Chicago. They're trying to find a 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: window to play. Um, so he you know, I don't know. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: I said, it's funny because it's really picture perfect here 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: today if you would have wanted to spectacular, if you 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: wanted to play here today. Yeah. So what exactly? So 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: he was there? Is it a charity outing or no? 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: No, No No, I think it's I think it's a buddy 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: like a kind of like last last chance to get 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: together type thing. I think he's doing that. Um is 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: the way that it was kind of presented that like 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: he was doing that my oldest went out with my 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: father in law this morning and played nine. Like I thought, boy, 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: that's that's a nice little morning for you. While I'm 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking to doing doing the things that I have 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: to do in the morning, I'm thinking, that's that's a win. 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you've won today. Son. Did he hustle 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: him like he hustled you know, I did? I think no, 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I did not. Did not go swimmingly. It sounded like 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: they had a ball. It was cool to see him 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: doing it, but um uh no, I know he did not. 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: My father law was pretty formidable, so that's it's not 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: too shocking that it would that would not go that way, 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: whereas I am not. Um but I think maybe we 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: struggled a little bit more than we did last last 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Sunday when when he when he beat me down. Um 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: so that that was his Yeah, it's gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: out here, I will say. So, I was occupied this 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: morning as I am with my other occupation, and I'm 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of a segment Gibb and I'm talking 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: about whatever the topic was at the time. It was 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: not was it intended to be, And I literally was 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: stopped in my tracks as Tiger Woods. After he hit 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: his t shot in eighteen, crossed the Swilcum Bridge and 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: then started walking up eighteen. I stopped. I was lost. 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: I was at a loss for words describing it, um, 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: because of all of the things that were kind of 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: happening there and fifty open, uh Jack being an honorary 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: citizen of St Andrews. Maybe Tiger's last open? Did you now? 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: He said post round that it wouldn't be, but he 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: also acknowledged that it would probably be the last time 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: where he could go into it with maybe even in 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: this instance the false hope of competing in it? Um, 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Did you even consider that this would be his last open? 54 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: And tell when? Right? You know what? I just have 55 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: it in my head that the Tiger is going to 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: will himself to play the majors. What that looks like, yeah, 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: I think is to be determined. Um. But I definitely 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: I stopped what I was doing. I was in the car, 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: I had I had the I had serious on and which, 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: by the way, if you're driving around this weekend and 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: you want to play by play all Scottish accents, English 62 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: accents calling the man like it's all anybody across the pond. 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: There's no American that's part of the broadcast, and and 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: it's on serious, so you know, I I was monitoring 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: the Tiger and and you could tell, you know, when 66 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: he was on seven and I think he hits seven 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: over and I was just like, it's gonna be too much. 68 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: This is not this is it. This is gonna be 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the end of it. So I got into the office, 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: I got set up, and I turned it on on 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: the TV and it was just it was pretty awesome 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to watch the final three holes and a little emotional. 73 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's it's a guy that has changed sports, 74 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: not just golf. He has made a mark, and we 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: don't know when or if he will get back to 76 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: the form that even close to the form that he 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: was at when he won the Masters in I mean, 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: he'll never get back to that. I think that was clear. 79 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: I mean when I saw him every It's funny on Monday, 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: when everyone was all excited about him driving eighteen um 81 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: and when I saw I think we talked about it 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: on Monday Show or Tuesday Show that when I saw 83 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: his swing, there's no way, there's just no way that 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: he was going to be able to do it. I mean, 85 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: he's just way too He swings like ice swing like 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: a stiff old man, you know, like he didn't he 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: wasn't limber. He had absolutely no lower body rotation or 88 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: explosion out of that. And so it was just something 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: where you just you just knew that it wasn't gonna 90 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: be the case and the double bow you his first hole, 91 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: and that was kind of that kind of was at 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: the beginning of the end of it. Um. But there 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: I was with you. I I found not only I 94 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: found myself a little emotional watching it, you know, because 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: you think of there's something about that place and z 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: has played it obviously I have not, You've not, but 97 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of a hundred and fifty years 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: of history and he's won there twice. Like Jack him 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: all of it. He told the story afterwards as he 100 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: was walking up eighteen that you know, Rory McElroy kind 101 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: of like tipped his hat to him, and I bet 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: that got him to you know. So it had all 103 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: those things you mentioned the eight years. So here's one 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: caveat to that. When Jack Nicholas played in in two 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: thousand the RNA and said that that he was done, 106 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: the RNA moved the open up to St. Andrew's for 107 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: two thousand five, so they only had it five years out, 108 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: so they could do that again for Tiger to where 109 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: they could have it one more time where he's in 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: his relative prime, like they only have I think the 111 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: next two or three are lined up in terms of 112 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: host cities. They could put it back at St. Andrew's 113 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: in in five years and he could play it again 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: and maybe one more time try to give it a 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: go competitively, but by and large it's probably it there. 116 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: He was not stopping. I didn't know if he would 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: stop or not, but he was not having it. No, no, 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: And a little bit of a part of me was 119 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: crushed when he missed that Birdie putt it's eight. I 120 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: just was like that, like someone said it on the broadcast. 121 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I just wanted to make it and give me a 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: little fist, give me the Tiger fist pump. Yeah. Yeah, 123 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: And when he missed it, I was like, Oh, all 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: the holes that you didn't want to do that on Yeah, 125 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: it was a shorty too, little guy. It was I've 126 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: been there, yeah, I think we all have. Um. It 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 1: just it was pretty yeah, because you don't know what's 128 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: next for him. I mean he's not. I think we 129 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: would all be surprised if he played in another event 130 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, he'll shut it down. He'll see him 131 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: next year at the Masters. That'll be the next time 132 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: you've seen him and hopefully Yeah, they had a graphic 133 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: up about um. Yeah physically, if he's able, I'm guessing 134 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: that would be the next time you see him playing 135 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: like competitively. He um. They had a Hear's roy for Eagle. Well, 136 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I just miss it. He can't. He's gonna get up 137 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: tapping Birdie, but he's not not making up enough ground. 138 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: It feels like everybody wants him to win, and maybe 139 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: the weight of that. He's in the mix. He's five back, 140 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: but it feels like there's so much movement that can 141 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: happen today and and he's not taking probably full enough advantage. 142 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: You know of that. Cam Smith and Cam Young are 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: tearing it up Camp Smith. But unbelievable today, absolutely unbelievable. 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: He's throwing darts. So now I will say this, I 145 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: had no idea. You know, you know that it's an 146 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: old course and it's close together, But I had no 147 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: idea that one and eighteen were basically the same. Yeah, 148 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: watching the Yeah, and watching this, like there are numerous 149 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: holes where people have to wait because someone going the 150 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: other direction has hit into your fairway. Right. Yeah, it's 151 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: hard to wrap our head around because we just have 152 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: golf course is laid out like this over here, you 153 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: know where they do that. We don't have that true 154 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: link style golf course where where you share fairways and 155 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 1: all of those type of things, or t boxes, share 156 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: greens and you know kind of all of the things 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: that come with that. They had a graphic up of 158 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: of Tiger and Jack with like the major count and 159 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Tiger had got to fourteen by age thirty two, so 160 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: when he won at Tory at thirty two, he was 161 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: well ahead of Jack's pace, well ahead of jack space Um, 162 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: and it felt like he would, you know, got he 163 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: could get to twenty majors at that time, twenty two 164 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: majors who knew Um. And then the fact that he 165 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: went from from thirty two to forty three without winning 166 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: one is a pretty remarkable thing. I mean, that's the 167 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: personal stuff, the injuries, all of those things happened during 168 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: that time. Um and Jack won five from thirty eight 169 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: to forty six, So that's the that's the that's the 170 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: or thirty five to forty six. So that's the whole 171 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: in the resume, is that in that eleven year period, 172 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas won five and during an eleven year period, 173 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: Tiger won one. And that was that's the difference, And 174 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: that's how he's you know, Jack is not going to 175 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: be caught and no one's gonna catch Jack. If Tiger 176 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: ain't catching Jack, no one's catching Jack. Yeah, and no 177 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: one anytime soon. Oh my gosh. Well and with this 178 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: live money and all this stuff, like there's just there's 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: no what is your motivation to continue to be great? 180 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Like it feels like Rory is a guy who as 181 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: a kid, you know, identified as like I'm gonna go 182 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: chase greatness. And it even came so quickly for him. 183 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he won four in a two year period. 184 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: He hasn't won one since two thousand and fourteen. And 185 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: if he doesn't win win this year, it's another whole 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: year that goes by without a major for a guy 187 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: that most people from a talent standpoint would say is 188 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: the most talented guy on the tour right, but for 189 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it's gonna be eight years for him between 190 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: majors in his prime. Mind, you It is fascinating to 191 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: see because he had some comments. I know that we're 192 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: pretty controversial earlier in the year, you know, from a 193 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: golf standpoint, but he was like, like, I have a kid, 194 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm enjoying fatherhood and being read, and you know, 195 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: i'd like, I love playing golf. Uh, it has provided 196 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: me a ton of opportunities. But it's almost like he said, 197 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: it's not the end all be off. I don't win, 198 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: but I feel like there's a little something more on 199 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, I think he wants this one pretty 200 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: badly open. I mean, I feel like his role in 201 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: all of this, like he was one of the guys 202 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: photographed with Tiger and Jack and all of that, Like 203 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: he knows the history of the game. I think the 204 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: cap tip to Tiger. I mean, this is one that 205 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: that he would just absolutely love to win and fift 206 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: open all of the he feels the appropriate winner, but 207 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some work to do to be able 208 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: to do it. A nice shot here on the par 209 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: three um as we're he's not on eleven, so he's 210 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: within I don't know, ten ft for Birdie on eleven, 211 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: so he could mean, if you can get to double figures. 212 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think he's got to know it's 213 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: a battle. But yeah, I think he needs to be 214 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: to ten or eleven in order, and he should birdie eighteen. 215 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: That should be a GIMMI the way the conditions are, so, 216 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: I think if he's you know, if he's tend to 217 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: let ten under par, eleven under par a couple of 218 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: shots back of camp Smith, he's got a chance. If 219 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: you're out there wondering is there anything else going on 220 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: in the sports world, the short answers, No, there's not. 221 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing going on in the NFL. Nothing. It's interesting 222 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: like last week, the NFL was on vacation. Um, you 223 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: guys were on vacation. We were on vacation on this show. 224 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: But there was still some stuff news wise around the 225 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: league that would would come out. I mean they would, 226 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: you'd get something. I mean, my god, we traded Baker 227 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: Mayfield last week while the NFL was off. This week, 228 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: there's nothing. There's just nothing there from a league standpoint. 229 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: There's not news, there's not business. There's not transactions, there's 230 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: not contracts, there's not trade nothing. It's just kind of 231 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: a wait and see. And it does feel like in 232 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: the league give it that. We're at a point now 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: where everyone just everyone's waiting on Watson, No, nobody more 234 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: so than us. But then the next thing is just 235 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: everyone's just trying to get to camp, which isn't you 236 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: know a little more in ten days you start to 237 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: get into that. But that's kind of the next thing, 238 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: and everyone's kind of resigned to that's the next thing 239 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna all pay attention to on the calendar because 240 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: it's silent, and it has been all week. There's been 241 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: nothing all week, and I wonder because we'll start getting 242 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: some guys trickling in next week. I believe the rookies 243 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: have to be back. I think quarterbacks start coming back there. 244 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there were there were players in the building 245 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: this week, so I think we'll start getting a few 246 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: more this week, uh, this coming week. But I still 247 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: wonder if the league is going to be um, you know, 248 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: shut down for another seven days. Yeah, it could be. 249 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean it could be a situation where where next 250 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: week is similar to this. This week was actually quieter 251 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: than last week when the league was actually on vacation. 252 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: But you you go around the league and then nothing 253 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: going on. There's Daniel Sider with the subpoenas stuff where 254 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: he's trying to avoid the subpoenas by staying out of 255 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: the country and not being served, which is just incredible 256 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: that he's gonna stay on a boat, just stay out 257 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: of the country so we can't get served to subpoena. 258 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: That's what's happening. Again, at some point you've got to 259 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: go maybe he shouldn't be an owner. Well, yeah, I 260 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: just think everyone's terrified of the president of that agreed. Yeah, clearly. Um, 261 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: the big difference is if he he's agreed to testify 262 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: vias uh the teleconference, but he will not do the subpoena. 263 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: The difference there in my again not an not an attorney, 264 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: nor did I go to private school, nor did I 265 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: say holiday and express. But the difference apparently being that 266 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: if he does it via teleconference, he doesn't have to 267 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: answer everything, and if he if he answers the subpoena 268 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: and does so in front of Congress, then he does 269 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: theoretically have to answer every question or or risk perjuring himself. 270 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: So that's the difference in the two. With the Daniel 271 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: Snyder thing, So that's kind of it. There's nothing really 272 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: out there from an NFL standpoint. Um, one other thing 273 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: you were watching this morning. I was curious if you 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: saw this at the open. So there's a cutaway. Uh, 275 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: it's a handsome gentleman. He's in black aviator, sunglasses, gold rimmed. 276 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: He's got a there's a type of jacket that's made 277 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: over there called barber like you'll see. Uh, you know, 278 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: James Bond aware this in the rain. So there's that 279 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: type of jacket. He's in one of those, excepts like 280 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: a vest, one of those vest, version of one of those. 281 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: And Gibby, I kid you not. The man had a 282 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: golden eagle on his arm. You didn't see this. The 283 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: dude had a legit golden eagle on his arm like 284 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: he was. I don't he was some sort of falconer 285 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: or falcony, I don't know what the what do you 286 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: call those people? But he was like that, except it 287 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: was an eagle. And I thought I saw it quickly, 288 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: and I thought, well, that's impossible. That can't actually, that 289 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: can't actually be that. I mean, there's just just no 290 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: way that that can actually be an eagle. I mean 291 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: it has to be a hawk or a falcon. So 292 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: I rewounded, and I thought, no, that's I know the difference. 293 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: That's that's an eagle. That's definitely an eagle on his arm. 294 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: And so I did some I thought, first of all, 295 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: I thought, well, is there a more formidable thing that 296 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: you could like just be standing with. Like if you 297 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: and I were attending the Open Championship and we walk 298 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: up to a guy on the ropes and he's standing 299 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: there with an eagle, an actual eagle on his arm. 300 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: It's a bit of an attention getter. It's right up 301 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: there with the guy that was dressed as a in 302 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: a tiger onesie yesterday as tiger Woods. Was the opposite 303 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: end of that, the opposite end of that. Yes, I'd 304 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: be like if you had an actual tiger like on 305 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: a leash, it's ridiculous for an eagle like their apex 306 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: predators like he essentially has a it's a it's the 307 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: wildlife equivalent of a B two bomber over on his arm. 308 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he and he was just in 309 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: the gallery. He was just in the gallery, just hanging 310 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: out with an eagle, And I thought, Chiefs, that's I mean, 311 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: I you can know how I feel about the birds. 312 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: That would terrify me to death. That's no way I 313 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: can handle that very well. Um, I would keep a 314 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: very large distance would be the way that I would 315 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: handle that. Uh, there's about a million questions when it 316 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: becomes unnerved. But you know, these animals are well trained typically, 317 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: so come to find out, the reason that the eagle 318 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: was there was very purposeful. So St. Andrews has the 319 00:15:53,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: eagles on site to keep the seagulls away. They send 320 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: them out. I mean you watched Maverick. Yeah, like f 321 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: eighteen hornets. That's right. We will not have seagulls around here. 322 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: And here's Mr Golden that you gotta answer to if 323 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: you think you're going to Mr Seagull Really Yeah, and 324 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: that's why the eagles just come back. Yeah, they're obviously 325 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: trained to be able to do it. I mean, you 326 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: we you can do that. I think I've talked told 327 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: you just before. There was a real sports story, probably 328 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: a decade ago. By the way, like the budget for 329 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: a real sports story, you know, the only place where 330 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: you can be in like Tibet and the English countryside 331 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: for one fifteen minute piece and it's all paid. I 332 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: don't understand that the budget of that show at all. 333 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: It feels like there doesn't have one, um another Bertie 334 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: f Rory here on tent on eleven. Rather we needed that. 335 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: So in this story they showed how eagles in England 336 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: they use them as hunters, and there was an image 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: of an eagle taking out a deer like it took 338 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: out a full grown d here. So yeah, they're quite 339 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: formidable and apparently you can't train them. You've seen them 340 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: at sporting events where they think. By the way, who's 341 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: asking the eagle if it wants to fly around while 342 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: the anthem is playing? Anyone running it by him? Yeah? No, 343 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: no thing. I don't want to be in the gallery 344 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: standing next to the guy with the eagle when that 345 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: thing spreads the wings and goes, you're not stopping it. 346 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Many Wednesday night in the in the old golf league, UM, 347 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: the group that was two in front of us was like, hey, 348 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: f y, I on the seventh hole there there's a 349 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: mama falcon and I said excuse me, and they're like, 350 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: be careful, Um, you'll hear squawking at you. And I'm like, well, 351 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: how how big bo I'm telling you. This falcon was 352 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: probably twenty yards away and it looked it looked like 353 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: one of the biggest birds I've ever seen, and it 354 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: started squawking at us as we were rolling up on 355 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: on the green on the tea box, and I was like, 356 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: maybe we don't need to take a drive. Like I'm 357 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: one of us had to stand in the back of 358 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: the tea box like basically with a club, just in 359 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: case this thing decided to come at us. They will 360 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: do that, so they there's probably an egg nearby. Eggs 361 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: are nearby, and we're being protective. Yeah, they will come 362 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: at you. He was just coming walking the whole time, 363 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't, Let's hit the drive 364 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: and let's go. Everybody's like, let's take pictures. I said, 365 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: let's not die. Let's not because here's the deal. It 366 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: can fly. You're not going to corral it. There's none 367 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: of that that's happening. This thing was huge. Yeah, well 368 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: so in eagles like four times that size. Yeah, that's 369 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: what you're dealing with. And that's on this guy's arm 370 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: at St. Andrew's. My goodness, that's insane. To keep the 371 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: seagulls away. Here we go, right, I want to see 372 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: that battle go on. I don't think it ends well 373 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: for the seagulls. My guess is your seagull You get 374 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: winto that and you tell the other guys like, listen, fellas, 375 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: this ain't us. We let's go down the road a 376 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: little bit here before we can, uh if we're gonna 377 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: try and land on beaches, so we use them. Do 378 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: they use them just for the open or is it daily? 379 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, it could be all the time. I 380 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: wonder if he ever noticed him get a hand to 381 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: deal with him at any point. I mean they're past, 382 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: seagulls are passed, so I mean I could see how 383 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: they would be like, look, get a couple of these 384 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: guys around and just keep the seagulls away. End well 385 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: for the goal. No, no, absolutely not. All right, we'll 386 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: get you. Keep you updated on the open as things 387 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: goes along. Have a little football fund along the way 388 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: coming up next. You remember this from a year ago? 389 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: I do remember this from a year ago. 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Yeah. 418 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: This is coming from Amy Dash, the the official legal 419 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: insider for Odyssey Sports, CBS Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio. Um, 420 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans have settled claims with thirty Deshaun Watson accusers. Um. 421 00:21:53,440 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 1: There's some quotes here from uh tony buzzby Yeah. Um 422 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: me Dash is saying that this means there could be 423 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: as many as six more suits possibly coming against the 424 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson. UM, I don't know. She says the evidence 425 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: against the Houston Texans was strong enough to likely make 426 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: it to trial. So that Jenny Ventis with this too, 427 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: of the New York Times, she has this, She has 428 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: a story two here in the last couple of minutes. 429 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: So that is, UM, I don't know who knows and 430 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: the according to Vrentis, the settlement does not appear to 431 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: affect the four remaining lawsuits against Watson. Um, so that 432 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: that part is still out there that identifies of the 433 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: additional six women settling with the Texans are unknown. Um. 434 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: And these you know, in some instances, these might not 435 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: be you know, related in terms of people saying, you know, 436 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: coming at the Texans versus people coming at Watson. So 437 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of two different things that are happening there. Again. 438 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know what this has to do with 439 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: Robinson either. I don't know what Robinson. You know, how 440 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: well Robinson would view this, or if she would or 441 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: if she's you know, who knows. Nobody knows anything on 442 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: that man. You just don't have to have a clue 443 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: of of how this thing would be what is going 444 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: to be handled. But that is certainly noteworthy coming out 445 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: of Houston today. UM, all right, give eight time for it. 446 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: We're doing a little higher lower here on a Friday, 447 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, but maybe not necessarily with all the 448 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: bells and whistles. But it is compliments of our friend 449 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Jeff Kerr at CBS sports dot com. It is his 450 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: annual Quarterback Coach Duo rankings. UM. The qualifications for this 451 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: list new head coaches and quarterbacks on new teams do 452 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: not qualify. So Russell Wilson, Nathaniel hack it fall into 453 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: this category. UM, the Pittsburgh situation does not. Even Tom 454 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: Brady and Todd Bowles is not eligible. And we're not 455 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: I would think that we are not, yes, because we 456 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: have a new quarterback, new coach, so we're on eligible 457 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: either because last year wasn't Baker, We were like in 458 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: like seven or eight or something. Baker and Stefanski. I 459 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: think so in today's example of lights, life comes at 460 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: you fast. Yeah, a little bit. Ninth. We were ninth 461 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: a year ago. New qualification for two called the Jimmy G. 462 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan rule. Garoppolo still on the forty Niners roster 463 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: even though the team has moved on. Unofficially they've named 464 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: Trey Lance to starting qb Uh. Let's see. As a result, 465 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Garoppolo and Shanahan won't qualify because Garoppolo would have likely 466 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: been traded by now. Play calling not play calling neither 467 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: helps nor hurts. Longevity isn't everything in championships help, So 468 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: just perspective. Like last year on the list they had Russell, Wilson, 469 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll four. That that is not how that ended up. 470 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: So not only did we not end up nine, because 471 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: we were nine on this list with Baker and coach Stefanski. Uh, 472 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: and number four it was he had Wilson and Pete 473 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Carroll at number four. Yeah, he had Big Ben and 474 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: Tomlin at number eight, Tannehill and Rabel at seven. UM 475 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: he had the Ravens duo, Lamar and Harbaugh at five, 476 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Sean McDermott from Buffalo. Six. UM ten 477 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: was Jimmy g and Shanahan. So, uh, I guess we 478 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: we'll just go down the list. Here at number ten, 479 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: he's got Kyler, Murray and Cliff Kingsbury. I think this 480 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: is very wrong because Cliff Kingsbury is not a good coach. 481 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: But okay, well, I don't know what two of us 482 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: you can put in. Right. Here's the problem. He's got 483 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: too many qualifiers on this because he doesn't want to 484 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: do anything that he doesn't have data on. So that's 485 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: what makes this very difficult because there's been so much 486 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: change either at quarterback or coach in the league. So 487 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Kyler for sure would be a top ten quarterback. Uh 488 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: it's he'd be a top ten quarterback even among be 489 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: right on the edge of the even if you took 490 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: out the qualifications, you know he would be right on 491 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: the edge of that. So the question becomes how much 492 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: we I think we all know that the quarterback is 493 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: much more important than the coach. But the question is 494 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: how much more important is the quarterback than the coach? 495 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: How much can Kyler Murray make up for Cliff Kingsbury. 496 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: That's really what you're looking at here, because and some 497 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: of the other ones that this way too, Like, I mean, 498 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: he's got very able on this list with Tannehill, but 499 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: like Mike really doesn't have a whole lot to do 500 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: with offense, right, he got he's got Prescott and McCarthy 501 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: at eight, and then he's got Herbert and Staley. Like 502 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: Herbert is well better than this, But the question becomes 503 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Staley from the standpoint of the way that he operates, right, Yeah, 504 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's I guess that's what would you put 505 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Herbert and Staley had a Prescott and McCarthy, I think 506 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: I would simply because Mike McCarthy's bringing that franchise down, 507 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: I would absolutely have them ahead of McCarthy and Prescott. 508 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: I would have Herbert and Stanley probably higher. But again, 509 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: this is why like Nathan loves Z loves these guys. 510 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: He loves the Chargers this year, really likes his team, 511 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: and I understand why you would, but I also think 512 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: you do have to acknowledge that last year they went 513 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: nine and eight. As a duo with all of that firepower, 514 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: they went nine and eight, And that part can't be ignored, 515 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: including the final week of the season, just laying a 516 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: complete and total egg. Yeah, in week seventeen. Um, So, 517 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: Prescott and McCarthy were eight, Tannehill and Rabel seven. That's 518 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: too high. I was gonna say right now, they would 519 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: be number ten for me. Yeah, yeah, they'd be down 520 00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: on this list. Lamar and Harbaugh at six. I think 521 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: Lamar is probably Lamar the Ravens in general, Lamar specifically, 522 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: Like it's probably the biggest question mark team that we 523 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: have right in terms of can they bring It's been 524 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: a minute now since they were sensational. He's still the 525 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: most dangerous weapon in the league. They're one of the 526 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: more competent organizations. But at the same time, it's been 527 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: a minute. Like that's that that part's true too, So 528 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: you kind of need to see it with them, I think, yeah, 529 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: I need to see I mean, are they better than 530 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the Arizona duo. Yes, I'd like to think so, probably, 531 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, but maybe they're maybe their seventh or eight 532 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: and not as high as number six, uh, number five 533 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: Burrow and Zach Taylor. So Initially I thought this has 534 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: to be higher. I mean, they went to the Super Bowl, 535 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, it feels like it has to be higher. 536 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: But then when you see like who's above them, it 537 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: just speaks to how much talent there is at the 538 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: position right now in the league. It's just the league 539 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: is so loaded at quarterback right now, young quarterbacks in 540 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: their prime, that it's hard for me to move them 541 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: ahead of the four guys they have ahead of them. Yeah. 542 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: And I mean Zach Taylor is six thirty two and 543 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: one in three seasons. Sure he deserves credit because he 544 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, they end up going to a super Bowl. 545 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: They were ten and seven and got hot at the 546 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: right time and ended up going to the to the 547 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: Big Dance. But um, I'll be interested to see now 548 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: that there are expectations. Yeah. I think the other thing 549 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: with them is what is it appears everybody I talked 550 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: to you down there that Joe Burrow really trusts, really 551 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: trust sex. So with that being the case, it feels 552 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: like the and and by the way, they don't love 553 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: firing people down there, right, They're not big on that 554 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: you can keep jobs from a time. No. Yeah, so 555 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's got a chance to be there. It's very 556 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: likely that Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow will be you know, 557 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of the white you know, Sias and except better. 558 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: You know that that those guys were in Cincinnati. When 559 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: when those guys were all there, I mean, they're gonna 560 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: be together for a long time. They're they're locked at 561 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: the hip. In fact, of all of these guys on 562 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: this list, to me, there is locked as anybody because 563 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: of what I just mentioned on those guys being together, 564 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: all the rest of these guys are. You know, there's 565 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: an age problem one way or another, whether it's in 566 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay or Kansas City. Uh, there's uncertainty like in Dallas, 567 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how much they're gonna put up 568 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy there. Um, But it's really in terms 569 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: of the best overall situations in the league. And I 570 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: would put us on this list too. It's Alan McDermott, 571 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: it's Taylor Burrow. Um. I need to see a little 572 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: bit more from Brandon Staley, I do before I put 573 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: him in that group. Those are the three that are 574 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: to me have elevated. Yeah. So Alan McDermott from the 575 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: Bills were number four. Aaron Rodgers and met Lafleur were 576 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: number three. Uh, Matt Stafford and Sean McVeigh were number 577 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: two and number one. Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. It's 578 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: interesting on the um the Stafford stuff, it almost went 579 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: like people still like aren't ready to give him like 580 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: the credit that that he deserves, Like they still aren't that. 581 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: I've talked to people around the league in the last 582 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks doing various things, and uh, you still 583 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: almost get that, Well, you know, he's got a proven it, 584 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: like I don't know, he went to Tampa Bay and 585 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: one like he went there and won in the postseason. 586 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Like it seemed to me like you went a Super Bowl, 587 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: then that's it, right, I don't know what what more 588 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: do you have to prove? I agree, I don't know 589 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: if I would have the Rams do all that high. 590 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: But again, maybe I'm just selling Stafford short. Well. I 591 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: mean I know how good McVeigh is. McVeigh has now 592 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: been to two Super Bowls. Yes, yeah, so I mean 593 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: there's something there. So Stafford last year was he was 594 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: it's six it's sixty percent passing, it's forty one touchdown, 595 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: seventeen picks. They really don't didn't have a run game 596 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: all year because Acres went out early, didn't have a 597 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: consistent running game. They ran receivers through that they had Cup, 598 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: but other than that, they it was kind of a 599 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: musical chairs as they brand brought guys in and out 600 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: of there. Whether it would be Beckham Woods went down 601 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: with a big injury. I mean, they had a lot 602 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: of injuries outside a cup. There was a lot of 603 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: uncertainty with that offense, and and he lifted it. He 604 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: lifted it. I tend to agree with you, like I 605 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't have him over Alan and McDermott. But I also 606 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: think that a little bit of respect is probably due, 607 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: and I think what Curse probably doing here is maybe 608 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: going a little too far. But at the same time, 609 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: usually people go they usually undersell Stafford, you know, and 610 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: I think, you know, as good as Aaron Rodgers is, 611 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: neither one of them can win a playoff game one 612 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: at home. No, I mean they had the NFC Championship 613 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: at home two years ago. They lost at home to 614 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: San Francisco this year, and just a gross game. Like 615 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: you fight for home field advantage at some point you 616 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: gotta win that, right, You gotta win those games. That's 617 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: part of the deal, especially when you have home field advantage. 618 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, absolutely, all right. Coming up next, we will 619 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: go to a little deep dive on our offensive line 620 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: as our breakdowns continue getting you set for camp that 621 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: is coming up next us to clean Brown's Daily on 622 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland. If a car trucker 623 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: motorcycle accident conju interry is called the Agrian Lawyers and 624 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: one inter delp CALLEDISLESO precase your view help and helps 625 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: the cloud partner of your Cleveland Browns. As we continue 626 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: our trainee camp positional preview, we focus today on the 627 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: offensive line. Here Z, This group, under the tutelage of 628 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: offensive line coach Bill Callahan, arguably the best offensive line 629 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: coach in our great league's history, and assistant offensive line 630 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: coach Scott Peters, is poised to be a strength of 631 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: the Browns once again. Continuity and depth. Those are the 632 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: two themes. Only one starter from last year is not 633 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: back this year, and you've got guys behind year starters 634 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: who have started games in the NFL. So it's a 635 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: great combination for Bill Callahan, a great combination for Kevin 636 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: Stefancy because as we know, you need a lot of 637 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: bodies at that position. The Browns not only have a 638 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of talent and depth, they have elite talent in 639 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line, where we'll start with Jedderick Wills, the 640 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: Brown's first round pick. In battle through some injuries a 641 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: year ago, but his healthiness had a great start to 642 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: his off season. Next to him is the great Joel Betonio, 643 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: the longest tenured brown signed a big extension, and of 644 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: course he deserves it. Will be with the Browns for 645 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: a long long time. Why because all he does is 646 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: go out there and dominate weekend and week out, year 647 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: in and year out. Last year, first team All Pro 648 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl. Of course he went to 649 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. He's gone there four straight years. He's 650 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: either been second team or first team All Pro four 651 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: straight seasons, and last year was Pro Football focuses number 652 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: one graded guard for the year in heck, when he 653 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: had to kick out the left tackle a couple of games, 654 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: he was a top three graded left tackle in the NFL. 655 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: A very special player. Now in the middle of the 656 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: Browns offensive line, that's where the one changes. Nick Harris, 657 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: the team's fifth around pick a couple of years ago, 658 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: he moves into the starting lineup, and he's gotten a 659 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: lot of work already this off seas but he used 660 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: to get a lot of work in the past seasons 661 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: as well. J C. Treader would not always participate in 662 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: some of the off season program due to injuries with 663 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: his knee, and that guy was as tough as nails, 664 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: believe me, and he will be missed. But Nick Harris 665 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: is ready and we gotta taste of that against the 666 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers last year on Christmas Day. Forty two 667 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: pass blocking snaps in that game, zero pressures allowed by 668 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: Nick Harris. And I can tell you he has been 669 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: here all offseason working on his body, getting stronger, getting 670 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: faster to take on this role. And I think the 671 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: coaches are very excited and so am I for Nick 672 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: Harris to get this opportunity to his right. Wyatt Teller 673 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: another big time guard, another guy under contract with the 674 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: Browns for a long long time, and that is a 675 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: very very good thing. Teller second team All Pro for 676 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: the second straight year. Last year, he made the Pro 677 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: Bowl for the first time in one and he's been 678 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: a hot five guard that Pro Football focus in each 679 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: of the last two seasons. Rounding out the brown starting 680 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. We hope to have Jack Conklin back. I 681 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: can tell you his rehab is going very well here, 682 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: but we have not yet seen him practice with the Browns, 683 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get a chance to see that prior 684 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: to Week number one in Carolina. The Conklin in his 685 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: last full season, he was the All Pro right tackle 686 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, so he is elite. He's 687 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: been an All first team All Pro twice now in 688 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: his young career. It will be great to get him back. 689 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: So that's your starters. Will's Batonio, Harris Teller, and Conklin 690 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: as good as any unit in the NFL. Now let's 691 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: go to the backup, so we'll start outside. Chris Hubbard 692 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: is back with the Cleveland Browns and now he's battled injuries. 693 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: He missed All one with an injury. But this is 694 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: a guy who has started forty eight games in his 695 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: NFL career over five positions. He brings valuable veteran knowledge 696 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: and no how not only that he started for the 697 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: Browns guard tackle. He's done it all. And then you've 698 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: got James Hudson, last year's fourth round pick out of Cincinnati, 699 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: thrust into action early. He's got a full off season 700 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: now under his belt, he will be the other swing 701 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: tackle for the Cleveland Browns and Hudson last year played 702 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: pretty well at times. Now I appeared in six games 703 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: that left tackle and right tackle four starts on the season, 704 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: but let's go to Week eighteen. That was his best game. 705 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: He graded ninety that week and didn't allow a single 706 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: pressure for the first time all season. In the interior 707 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. Great depth as well. Ethan post 708 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: was signed by the Browns this offseason. A former second 709 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: round pick of the Seattle Seahawks back in two thousand 710 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: and seventeen, Postic has appeared in fifty seven career games 711 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: with forty starts, mostly at center, but also has started 712 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: some at guard. And then there's Blake Cants, remember him, 713 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: the guy who started a tackle last year for the Browns. 714 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: He started at guard. He's working at center and guard 715 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: right now in this off season, but he appeared in 716 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: fourteen games last year, seven starts at both left tackle 717 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: and right tackle. And then there's Michael Dunn who started 718 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: for the Browns last year as well at left guard 719 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: and also had to fill in, remember for Joel Mattonio 720 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: in the playoff win over the Pittsburgh Selers and did 721 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: a great job against Cam Heyward. So we're already ten deep, 722 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: and it's pretty darn good for the Cleveland Browns. Guys 723 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: who can play on the outside, Guys who can play 724 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: on the inside, veterans, people who have started. Every single 725 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: one of our top five backups have started in the NFL. 726 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: Two of them have started thirty games or more. Rounding 727 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: out the offensive line room. It's gonna be a tough 728 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: competition to make this roster, but here's some of the 729 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: names to pay attention to. You've got Dawson Deaton, the 730 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: brown seventh round pick out of Texas Tech. He was 731 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,959 Speaker 1: a three year start of their two time second team 732 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: All Big twelve. Then there's Drew Forbes, the Browns sixth 733 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: round pick back in two thousand and nineteen. We haven't 734 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: seen him since two thousand nineteen. He opted out for COVID, 735 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: missed all of one with the season, but a big, 736 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: strong guy. Then there's Yelda fro Holt, the fourth round 737 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: pick in the New England Patriots back in two thousand 738 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: and nineteen. Was on the Browns roster and practice squad 739 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: in one has some experience now in our system. And 740 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: he's a guy that the coaches I know like very 741 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: very much. You also have guard David Moore and undrafted 742 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: free agent out of Grambling State. Center brock Hoffman, an 743 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent from Virginia Tech. So that's kind of 744 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: the interior backups on the outside the tackle position. The 745 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: big six eight Alex Taylor, who spent one on the 746 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: Browns practice squad and appeared on the active roster for 747 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: a game but did not get any snaps in that one. 748 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: He's been in the program for a couple of years. 749 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: Is also on the practice squad in twenty twenties. I said. 750 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: He is six eight, played hoops and football at South 751 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: Carolina State, and the Browns trying to turn him into 752 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: a big time tackle. Here he is joined by Elijah Nkansa, 753 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent out of Toledo who's been around 754 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: the league on practice squad since two thousand and eighteen. 755 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: Spent in time with Tennessee, Seattle, Houston, Indie, the Jets, 756 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: and the Browns. He's appeared in one career game. And 757 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: then finally Ben Petrola and undrafted free agent this year 758 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: out of Boston College. So this is a room with 759 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: a lot of names that I think the top five 760 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 1: is as good as any top five in the league. 761 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: The top ten is as good as any top ten 762 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: in the league. So a lot of depth and a 763 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: lot of talent. As we said for Bill Callahan. Yeah, 764 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: there's certainly is a great job that is Zi there 765 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: on the roster breakdowns, Ran Anthony Poisla join us our 766 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: staff writer here, uh to break down this offensive line. 767 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: I agree with Z, but I also think that there are, 768 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, some pretty big question marks here on this 769 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: offensive line, and it it let's start in the middle 770 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: with Nick Harris, who when we saw him last year, 771 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: we all remember the game against Green Bay and remember 772 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: what he's capable of. But at the same time, this 773 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: is now a different thing. J C. Treader had been 774 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: this anchor in the middle of the line that you 775 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: could tell everything else too, and we were so superior 776 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: in the interior with j C, Joel and Wyatt. If 777 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: there is an opportunity for success, you cannot find a 778 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: better opportunity than one Nick has, Anthony. But at the 779 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: same time, he's got to go do it right. Yeah, definitely. 780 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean the middle there, like you said, is certainly 781 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 1: kind of the biggest question that's with this offensive line 782 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: right now. Um, but I think you gotta feel, you 783 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: know a little good about what Nick Harris brings to 784 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: the table, even though his experience is limited, right. I 785 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: mean you just said the one start last year and 786 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: then I think he had one other starters rookie year. Um, 787 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: but it was a good of starters you could have 788 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: asked for last year against Green Bay. As you know 789 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: Z said on the segment, there just no um and 790 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: I think he if I remember right, he got like 791 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: a seventy grade from Pro Football Focus, which is not 792 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: bad for somebody who um was like Nick Harris's uh 793 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: you know, skill level and experience level there. So UM. 794 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that's important with Nick Harris 795 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: as well too, but is that, um, you know, he 796 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: he might not have gotten in game experience, but he 797 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: definitely got uh like a lot of practice reps. And 798 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean like a lot of practice reps because JC 799 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: Tretter wasn't somebody that was taking every practice rep, right. 800 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: I mean you saw him on the injury report every 801 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: single week, not because he necessarily was at risk of 802 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: not playing, but it's just whenever he you know, had 803 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 1: an injury or just throughout the course of the season. 804 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: He knew he had to take care of his body, 805 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: and that meant that Nick Harris was going to be 806 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: the guy that was, you know, taking those first team 807 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: reps and um doing a chunk of the on field 808 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: work during practices. So, um, the practice experience is all 809 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 1: definitely there. And I think now that he's stepping into 810 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: this starting could be starting uh this year. This is 811 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: like the trajectory that the Browns sort of had for 812 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: him when they drafted him fifth on. Right, he wasn't 813 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody that was gonna necessarily be replacing j C. 814 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: Treader in the first year or two that he was there. 815 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: But um, they know eventually that you know, j C 816 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be here now, and he was the guy 817 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: that's supposed to step up. And so I think they've 818 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: had a nice long term plan for him, and you know, 819 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: the coaches believe in him, and um, we'll certainly see 820 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: in training camp and you know, maybe over the course 821 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: of the year just just how ready he is for 822 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: for this kind of opportunity. It's a great point out 823 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: of you and that this is kind of the plan 824 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: for him all along, was to wait and watch and 825 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: also the notion of of how many practice reps he's 826 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: seen over the last couple of years, when just last 827 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: year with j C has been the last couple of 828 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: years where he's you know, there haven't been a lot 829 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: of practices in there. So this is an opportunity that's 830 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: been an opportunity for not only the Harriss but also 831 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: for Bill Callahan to understand exactly what Nick Harris's strengths are. 832 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: And so that is something that he knows exactly what 833 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: he's getting with Nick Harris. We talked to Nick earlier 834 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: this offseason. He's a He's an impossible not to like dude. 835 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: He's just has so much energy, he's so excited for 836 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Um, and I think that that he'll absolutely 837 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: crush it. I really it's just a matter of he 838 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: just gotta go do it. It's not like it would 839 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: be surprised if he was if he wasn't great. I 840 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be very very good right away. And 841 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: I think the idea of that be Tonio and Teller 842 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: or next to him. To me, it's it's it's the 843 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: best possible position to step into. Yeah, definitely look ahead. 844 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I mean, you can't really 845 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: ask to be you know, for somebody liking to Carre 846 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: stepping into this role, you can't ask to be between 847 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: two better offensive linemen necessarily at the guard position, right, 848 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns might have the two, like they 849 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: have two top five guards in the league, and that's 850 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: definitely gonna be able to help him. Um, obviously during 851 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: a play, but even before it, you know, Joel will 852 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: be able to kind of give him any pointers that 853 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: he needs. And Wyatt too, now now that he's been 854 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 1: here for a while and knows the system very well. Um, 855 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: it's really the best best kind of uh, you know 856 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: environment you could be stepping into when you're just starting 857 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: out at center there. Yeah, it certainly is. And and 858 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: so then we we go to the outside, you and 859 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: you talk about tackle. Let's just start with Jack and 860 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: then we'll get to Jed. Let's start with Jack. What 861 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: can you tell us about where he is? What's a 862 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: timetable the injury. It's a big injury. It happened later 863 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: in the year. What do you where where are we 864 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: with with Jack and his availability? Do you think Yeah, 865 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean I think there's a chance that he's ready 866 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: to go at the start of training camp. It wouldn't 867 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: necessarily be surprising if um, they put a heavy limit 868 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: on any kind of reps he takes, or if you 869 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: kind of see him on the side, you know the 870 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: field is sort of in a jersey but maybe on 871 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: the practice bikes or something like that for the first 872 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: few weeks. Um. But he's been here, you know, he's 873 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: been working out, um over the course of the off 874 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: season and trying to you know, get as close to 875 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: as he can for when he's needed here, um at 876 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: the start of camp. So, UM, I think this is 877 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: how you know, most players sort of come back from 878 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: an injury that ends their season once training camp starts 879 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: and there's this long recovery period. Is that even if 880 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: he's kind of you know, feeling good, he's ready to go, 881 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: they're not gonna just throw him in there of the snaps, right, So, UM, 882 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: I think it might be something where maybe it takes 883 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: a few weeks for him to sort of settle back 884 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: into things and I'm sure we'll maybe get some you know, 885 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: a better more clear update from um Stefanski once once 886 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: players and everybody are back in the building here. Um. 887 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean there's definitely. Uh, you know, still 888 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: a good chance that he's ready to go come week one. Um, 889 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: and I think we'll see over the course of training 890 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: camp based on his snapload how ready he is to go. 891 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: But you know, they have good insurance, like he was saying, 892 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, you've got Chris Hubbard and um, James Hudson, 893 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: who are two guys that um, you know stepped in. 894 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: Hubbard over the course the last few years and Hubbard 895 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: last year. UM, I'm sorry Hudson last year. You know, uh, 896 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: once the tackle and you started to kind of pile 897 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: up there. But um, you know, they like the depth 898 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: that they have there. So if if need be, if 899 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: they got to turn to one of those guys, you 900 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: whether it be you know, in training camp or or 901 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: into the season, I think you know, they feel pretty 902 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: good about who they have. The loss of Hubbard was 903 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: a real one. I mean, when he's in it was 904 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: just it it hurts you everywhere because he can do everything. 905 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: He's such a good dude. If if he can be 906 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 1: healthy throughout this season and just provide that insurance, Uh, frankly, 907 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: either the tackle positions, that's wonderful. Hudson came along late. 908 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: Uh you worried about him early, but he came along late. 909 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: You saw what a full year or Bill Callahan could 910 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: do for Hudson as the season went along. Um. The 911 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: next thing I want to ask you about as Jeddrick Wills, 912 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: because as a rookie, there was times when you said, 913 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: holy cow, like this guy has a chance to be 914 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 1: really really special at left tackle in this league. Last 915 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: year was a little bit more up and down. This 916 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: is this is without question, a big, big time opportunity 917 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: for Jeddrick Wills. And I do think he has a 918 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: lot to prove here. I do, Yeah, he definitely does. 919 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: And I think one thing to remember when you kind 920 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: of look at some of the up and downs last year, 921 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: particularly in the beginning of the season, was you know, 922 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: he was fighting through a couple injuries there. Um. Now, 923 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: that's not to necessarily make an excuse. You know, he's 924 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: on the field. He's got to perform at the level 925 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: he's supposed to perform at. But um, you know this 926 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: was also just that was just his second year, um 927 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: at the left tackle position, and you know, the Browns 928 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of knew when they drafted him and they wanted 929 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: to move him from right to left tackle that it 930 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: was gonna take some time, you know, to do it 931 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: and to be sort of that consistent every down, uh, 932 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, making strong block kind of blocker. UM. And 933 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: so I think now that he's in his third year, 934 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: like you were just saying, this is this is sort 935 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: of like the I don't want to say prove it year. 936 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: It's not that intense, but you know year where where 937 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: he can definitely take that big step up and and 938 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: kind of meet maybe that you know, sort of Pro 939 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 1: Bowl potential that um they saw him when they picked 940 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: them tenth overall in so UM, he's another guy that's 941 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: also been here. You know, he was here throughout the 942 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: entirety of the spring, and UM, you know it's worked 943 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: really closely with Bill Callahan ever since he got here. UM. 944 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: So I think you know, yeah, it wasn't up and 945 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: down year, but sometimes those are necessary for a players 946 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: sort of you know, learn and and taking that next 947 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: step once they're young. I mean he's still just twenty 948 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: three years old. UM, still definitely growing and um, both 949 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: physically and just mentally with the game. So UM, this 950 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: is definitely a really big year for him. UM. But 951 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: I think he's he's taking all the steps necessary to 952 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: kind of show that he is he can be the 953 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: guy that the Browns thought that they were getting when 954 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: they picked him tenth overall, which is a Pro Bowl 955 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: and possibly All Pro player. Yeah, it's not proven. That's 956 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: that's definitely not Yeah, it's it's more what are you getting? 957 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 1: What's the trajectory? Because coming out of the first year Anthony, 958 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: there was a trajectory they felt like, Wow, this guy 959 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: could maybe like an all Pro left tackle. It felt 960 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: like that fell off a little bit, lud sure with 961 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: the inconsistency. You mentioned the injuries. Um, but again it's 962 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: a good point at you just twenty three, just three, 963 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: So there's a long way to go here for him. Yeah, definitely, 964 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: And and it's it was always going to take more 965 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 1: than just two years for him to really settle into 966 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: this thing. I think right like, like he's he's looked 967 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 1: really good at some points, which is great, Um, but 968 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, the transition from going from right to left 969 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: tackle is just one that is so hard and it 970 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: would have been really really impressive if by year two 971 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: he was able to just kind of master that lock 972 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: it down and weekend and week out the you know, uh, 973 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: super strong consistent blocker, and I think, you know, when 974 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: you look at the other guys that are on the 975 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: offensive line, we're so used to seeing Joel Pitonio making 976 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: good blocks, right and obviously Whyatt Teller had a big 977 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: year last year. Jack Conklin has been fantastic. It's like 978 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: they have really good guys on the line. And and 979 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think we something some of us maybe 980 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: like expected Jed to just kind of immediately rise to 981 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: that same level, but like it takes time. It took 982 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: time for all of them to reach that, and it's 983 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: it's it's no different for him. All right, let's go 984 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: to some of the reserves that are in the mix. 985 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: Hands and Done. We know, man, what a luxury to 986 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: have those guys so proven in the middle. Um, it's 987 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: interesting because those guys were all, you know, kind of 988 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: maybe not the right phrasing, has made famous, but made 989 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: known in the COVID year. And then I think it 990 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: Drew Forbes, who we haven't seen in forever, and and 991 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: again that was part of the COVID year. Is the 992 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: reason for that. So those three of guys kind of 993 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: all vying and the I think Hands and Done lock in, 994 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: but Forbes back in the mix is an interesting one. Yeah, definitely. 995 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: I mean the competition is going to be um as 996 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: thick as really any of the other competitions on the roster. 997 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: And I think Forbes is interesting because I think, you know, 998 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: back in two thousand nineteen his rookie year, everybody was 999 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, wow, this guy can be so versatile. 1000 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: He can play guard, he can play tackle, and you know, 1001 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: I think he played only a few games that year, 1002 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: maybe appeared in a few games, um, and then took 1003 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 1: off on on the COVID year, and then last year 1004 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: I think he was injured for part of the year. 1005 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: So um, so it's interesting. It would be interesting to 1006 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: see how he kind of, you know, was able to 1007 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: come back this year and how he fits in that competition. 1008 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: But as you mentioned with Blake Hanson Michael Dunn as well, 1009 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: that it is pretty fascinating to see where their careers 1010 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: are now. Consider our introduction to them was when it 1011 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: was you know, you kind of hitting the emergency button 1012 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: with all the COVID stuff in twenty towards the end 1013 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: of the year, and they were able to step up 1014 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: and play at such a high level right when this 1015 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: team really really needed them too. For the playoffs. So um, 1016 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: you know, they also kind of maybe had some up 1017 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: and down years last year as well, but like they're 1018 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: also two and young players that before last year didn't 1019 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: really have any sort of experience besides those one or 1020 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: two games in twenty So UM, I think that's definitely 1021 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: a reason to believe that they can also take a 1022 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: step up um this year as well, now that they 1023 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: have a full that full year under their belt and 1024 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: they know what it's like when they can kind of 1025 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: be called on on the last you know, almost like 1026 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: a last minute notice. And um, I think if you're 1027 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, Bill Callaghan, I you have to feel good 1028 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: about some of the depth that you have with these 1029 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: positions if if injuries were to come up this year 1030 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: because of those guys, they didn't remind me that a 1031 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: great Baker moment. He was like getting introduced to those 1032 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: guys as they were playing. You know, they're like, wait, 1033 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: now you're who You're who's blocking your who? I mean, 1034 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: I was just a moment that symbolized everything that was 1035 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: crazy about them stepping into you know, that kind of 1036 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: role just with the snap of fingers basically, and then 1037 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: just how crazy that year was. That's that's that's a 1038 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: good snapshot there. Yeah, it certainly is. Um all right 1039 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: in terms of what is some of the things as 1040 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: you start to get us ready for for camp at 1041 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns dot com. What do we expect to see? Yeah, definitely, 1042 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean we'll keep keep rolling out with these position previews. 1043 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: We only just started with them. Um. You know, we're 1044 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: talking about a little bit of the offense this week 1045 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: and to wrap up this week and then um, we'll 1046 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: shift to the defense next week. Um. And then we 1047 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: also have and this is one of the fun things 1048 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: that we kind of have on the docket is um, 1049 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, we're running through ten questions for two that's 1050 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: with me give A and UH and and Z. So um, 1051 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, we've got a couple of like 1052 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: interesting questions coming up, and you know it's always fun 1053 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: sort of writing the responses and seeing uh, you know, 1054 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: Gibbs or Z and I have any disagreements on anything 1055 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: or where where where we're sort of thinking with some 1056 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: of the questions. So um, yeah, that's all on the 1057 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: docket for the next two weeks. And then after that, 1058 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's time you know pedal to the metal man, 1059 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: like you know, all out for training camp and um 1060 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: and then we're just gonna be rolling all the way 1061 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,919 Speaker 1: through the season. So yeah, it's one of those things. 1062 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: We know, the last couple of years when the rosters 1063 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: have been so good, it's like, let's just put everybody 1064 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: in bubble wrap and we'll see in September. Uh, try camp. 1065 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: It's so different around here than it was, and that 1066 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,959 Speaker 1: you know in some of the previous years, like there's 1067 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: so much that's known about this team, you know, other 1068 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: than the length of the Watson suspension. We're all just 1069 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: everything else is known. It's just a matter of let's 1070 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: just get to September healthy. Great, see anybuddy, Thanks for 1071 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: stopping by. Yeah, absolutely, always a pleasure. All right. That's 1072 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: Anthony Poissle joining us. Of course, Brown's staff writer joining 1073 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,280 Speaker 1: us here on Cleveland Brown's Daily Second Hour up next 1074 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: of the program. Among the topics of conversation, a conversation 1075 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: with z and Jacoby Burussett. You have that to look 1076 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: forward to, which is very very nice. You listen to 1077 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Brown's 1078 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: Daily ESPN approaching the what would you call this the 1079 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: magic hour in in Scotland. The sun is still up, 1080 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: but it is it's it is falling, it is falling. 1081 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: There's still some sun. As they played the second round, 1082 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: Rory the only one kind of in the mix. Uh, 1083 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: still out on the course. He's through thirteen, I believe, 1084 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: Gibby and he's three shots back. Is that right? You 1085 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: need a red button? No Gibbe, No Gibbey. Still no Gibbey. Oh, 1086 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: I'll explain it. How about now I got you. Well, 1087 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: there's another button here that I missed that I'd never 1088 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: hit before. I'm like, wait, that works. I'm looking at 1089 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: my levels. It looked like yeah, so yeah, it's it's 1090 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 1: seven oh eight. Uh, way too much time spent under 1091 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: a bush that ultimately got you a free drop. So 1092 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: congratulations Lain hit it into a I mean it's it 1093 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: was brutal. I mean it to be fair, it was brutal, 1094 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: but he hit it in there. Yeah. I'm surprised that 1095 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: there wasn't a penalty. I don't know that there was. 1096 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 1: It looked like I think he was hoping for forgiveness 1097 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: because there was a wire over over the bush that 1098 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: he was in. I saw him take a drop and 1099 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 1: then that was That was kind of the extent of 1100 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 1: it um, so they still have probably a couple hours 1101 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to finish. I mean, Rory's on 1102 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: fourteen now and he's ten under. He's three shots back 1103 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: of camp Smith, cam Young eleven under than Johns Dustin 1104 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: Johnson at nine. If it stayed as it is right now, 1105 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: Mickelroy would play with Johnson tomorrow, which would be a site. 1106 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we talked about yesterday, Like if 1107 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: that were to come to fruition, I mean, the Evil 1108 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: Empire and the Jedies, it really would. It's all it's 1109 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: all there for you, by the way, I did I 1110 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: saw did you see the press conference yesterday from Phil 1111 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: miickel Pson at where where the guy just kept asking 1112 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: him about the Live Tour over and over and over 1113 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: and Phil goes, it's enough, dude, that's enough. Like I've 1114 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: answered you three times, You've asked the same question three times. 1115 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: That's enough. Like I'm kind of with fill on this, 1116 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: Like every time these guys play at one of these 1117 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: do we have, they get to have to get questioned 1118 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: and pressed about why they're on the Live Tour. They're 1119 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: on the Live Tour because it's less golf for more money, 1120 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: and the money is guaranteed. That's why they're on it. 1121 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: If it really bothered them where the money was coming from, 1122 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be on it. It It obviously didn't, and so 1123 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: that's why they are, Like, you can't just keep asking 1124 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: the same question over and over again expecting a different answer. 1125 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: It's the same answer every stop they go to, it's 1126 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,959 Speaker 1: going to be the same answer. And by the way, 1127 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: probably the people asking the questions you would have taken 1128 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: the money to. I mean, I mean, come on, I 1129 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: think that's what we've been saying. I understand that they 1130 00:55:52,760 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: there's there's a morality involved, but I mean it's like 1131 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: it's still out there, man. Yeah, and it's fair to 1132 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 1: me to ask it. Okay, ask it, but it's been 1133 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: asked like every time they go to a new venue. 1134 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: To me, I don't think they have to rehash this 1135 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: thing over and over and over again. Um. To me, 1136 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: that's the part that's getting a little it's becoming a 1137 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: little tiresome, to be honest. Well, no, I would agree 1138 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: with you on that. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, we 1139 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: talked about Rory and those guys on fourteen. There are 1140 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: still a group on nine hasn't made the turn. I 1141 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: was looking at the scorecard to see where everybody was at. Wow, 1142 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: those guys, I don't think we're going to get their 1143 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: stuff in. That would be hard pressed to imagine that, right, 1144 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: that you'd be able to finish at this point. Yeah, 1145 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: I gotta I got a feeling probably not not gonna happen, 1146 00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: which means and I feel like most of the eyes 1147 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: that around eight or nine are not going to make 1148 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: the cut. So it's just salt in the wound. You've 1149 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: gotta come back tomorrow. Yeah, like yeah, I mean when 1150 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: would they even go. I mean these guys today, Tiger 1151 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: was off at four fifty a m. Eastern, so I 1152 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: guess it would be ten ounce ten their time. So 1153 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: that's enough time. But I mean, these rounds are taking 1154 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: five and a half six hours is what it's taken 1155 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: to get around this place. Some of it is because 1156 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: of what you brought up earlier. How you're sharing fairways 1157 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: sometimes greens you're waiting on somebody to put on an 1158 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 1: adjacent green that's going out and you're coming back and 1159 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: you're waiting for them is just wild to me. Yeah, yeah, 1160 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: it is. Um, it's cool though, it's really really cool. 1161 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: It is awesome to see her, to watch it and 1162 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: see it, and it's a beautiful day, which is great. 1163 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: I hope the rest of the weekend is similar to this. 1164 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't need the big adverse weather conditions. Well, I 1165 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: just hope it's If it is big adverse weather, I 1166 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: hope it's big at adverse weather for everybody. What I 1167 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: hate is when it's garbage for two hours and then 1168 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: it's great for two hours, and then the guys who 1169 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: you know or vice versa, and you're not all playing 1170 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: the similar similar like yesterday, Like yesterday, although people scored 1171 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: it both times, both morning and afternoon. People scored the 1172 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: morning had better, but there were a lot of guys 1173 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: still in the mix UH in in the afternoon. A 1174 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: couple of things from the NFL side of things, Um, 1175 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: this one out of Houston. The Houston Texans UH settled 1176 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: claims with Shawn Watson, third with thirty Deshaun Watson's accusers. 1177 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: Um this is this is probably the most likely outcome. 1178 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: Amy Dash was the first to report this. Remember this 1179 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: was separate. This is all separate from the Watson stuff. 1180 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: This is a separate UH, separate litigation that that is 1181 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: happening there. Amy Dash writes the evidence against the Texans 1182 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: was strong enough to likely make it to trial. So 1183 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: that is that is where that stands on that side 1184 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: of thing. Go ahead, buddy, Yeah. A little bit of 1185 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: news out of the a f C North, Uh, something 1186 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: to watch in Cincinnati from Josina Anderson. I'm told Bengal 1187 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: safety Jesse Bates, who was franchised has you know teams 1188 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: have till four o'clock today to sign their franchise players 1189 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: to extended deals. I think there's four guys that still 1190 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: haven't done that. It doesn't look like any of the 1191 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,439 Speaker 1: four gonna happen, especially Jesse Bates, the safety of the Bengals. Uh, 1192 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: it was very very good, has no intentions of reporting 1193 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: to training camp nor playing on the franchise tag. He 1194 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: will not even sign his franchise tag. Two sides currently 1195 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: unable to come to terms on an extension on today's 1196 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: deadline for long term deals for players designed with the tag, 1197 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: and I guess it's it sounds like it's saw a 1198 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: low ball move coming from rap sheet. The team's final 1199 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: offer guaranteed Bates only four million more than what he 1200 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: would get if he eventually signs the franchise tag. Big differences. 1201 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 1: The tag locks Bates in for one year, while the 1202 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: Bengals offered locked him in for another five years. So 1203 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: here's the So we do a thing, you do a thing, 1204 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: thing or not a thing. I'm gonna say not a 1205 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 1: thing yet, not a thing yet July, not a thing yet, 1206 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: two months from the season. We're too far if you 1207 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: if if we get into the middle of August, I 1208 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: would still say not a thing. If he could show 1209 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: up August and be good to go, you know, I mean, 1210 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: I think the way that it seems to be my 1211 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: perception of the way things are right now in Cincinnati 1212 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: is if Joe Burrow wants it, then it is. So 1213 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: he's a little bit like I dream of Jeanie, you know. 1214 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's that what do you want done indoor? 1215 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Practicially done. We'll get a bubble up right now. I 1216 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: mean they held off on a bubble down there for 1217 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: thirty years and they got one this year because Burrow 1218 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: said it's enough. It's enough, and so Burrow wants Bates there. 1219 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 1: My hunches, they'll get it all sorted out. But there's 1220 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: it's not anything that's timely yet. You have plenty of time. 1221 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: I think that's the case. But I definitely think you know, 1222 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: leads into the bigger conversation. I think the Bengals know 1223 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: what's coming, Like they have to pay their quarterback in 1224 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: two years too. Yeah, that's you know, that's one where 1225 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a resetting of that market. And it's 1226 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: just a matter of who does it first. Uh is 1227 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: it going to be Burrow first? Or is it going 1228 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: to be Herbert first? And then whichever one's first, the 1229 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: second one will set the market, right Like whoever those 1230 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: first sets it and then whoever goes second resets it. 1231 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: That's kind of the way I think that thing is 1232 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: gonna go. It will be interesting to see. You know, 1233 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Burrow was having a good rookie year, but he was 1234 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: getting killed because he had no offensive line and he 1235 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: tears the A C L. Then he comes back last 1236 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: year was year two takes him to the super Bowl. 1237 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: Year three should be healthy, have a good offensive line. 1238 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Where's the bar? You know? I mean, this is a guy. 1239 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Let me pull up my notes from earlier and Jeff Kerr. 1240 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he threw thirty four touchdowns and fourteen picks 1241 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: a year ago and he was coming off of an 1242 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: a c O injury. Now what like where you've been 1243 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl already? You know what it's it's 1244 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl or bust. But where where do those numbers 1245 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: have to be for you to be It's I think 1246 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: he's I think the numbers almost give you to me, 1247 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: feel like a given. I think with Borrow, the only 1248 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: thing is like, can he deliver a super Bowl to Cincinnati? 1249 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: You know? Or is it it? You know? Like the 1250 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: to me, it feels like the worst case scenario is 1251 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: is that the career is like Dan Marino. You know, 1252 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 1: that feels like the worst case. If you can stay healthy, 1253 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 1: that feels like the worst case. So then it's just 1254 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 1: a matter of can he be more than that? Can 1255 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: he be you know, somebody like Manning or Breeze who 1256 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: wins a super Bowl in the place that drafted him, 1257 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Like although Breeze obviously wasn't drafted with the Saints, but 1258 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: you get the point. Um, you know, to me, that's 1259 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: the floor is really high on him, and the ceiling 1260 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: is just can you go win a super Bowl? And 1261 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 1: they have They're so young and so dynamic offensively. The 1262 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: only thing that hurts them is the same thing that 1263 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: hurts US. The it's just the n f the f C. 1264 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 1: That's it. Everything else is Yeah. I think those people 1265 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: that are short change in Kansas City, probably because of 1266 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 1: losing Tyreek Hill, won't. Yeah, it's not gonna be me 1267 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 1: short changing them. I think they're loaded for bear um 1268 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: you know geez oh man, I mean you're talking about them, 1269 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 1: the Bills, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders, US Ravens. It's a full day, 1270 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: It's a full day indie. I mean, it's been the 1271 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: theme of the off season. It has the arms race 1272 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: in the a f C. Yeah, yeah, it absolutely is. 1273 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: It is that, and so you just want to get 1274 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: everybody to camp and get everybody in a good spot. 1275 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: We'll do a little college football coming up next on 1276 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: some of the some of the conversation surrounding the Buckeyes. 1277 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 1: We will get to that and then you'll hear from 1278 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette. Was z uh coming up a little bit 1279 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: later on. As you're listening to Cleveland Brown's Daily on 1280 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: a fift ESP and Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily on S 1281 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: and Cleveland, Well, it is approaching football season across the board. 1282 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,439 Speaker 1: High schools reporting in a couple of weeks the same 1283 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: with true uh, at the at the college and pro 1284 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: level as well. And so we have we're starting to 1285 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: get This is college watch list season. It's one of 1286 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: my favorite times of the year where you take a 1287 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: look at some of these things. Gibby, what do we 1288 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: have today on this front? The Buckeyes, by the way, 1289 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: here's some breaking news. Gonna be real, real good, real good. Okay. 1290 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: So then, so now I have questions for you that 1291 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: they're going to be really, really good, which I agree 1292 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: with you. I think anything less than the Final four 1293 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: appearance is going to be very disappointing. Yeah, it's a 1294 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: minimum requirement, I think. Um, I think this is you know, 1295 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: they got big questions on defense, right, I mean, they 1296 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: got a brand new defensive coordinator. They were bullied by Michigan, 1297 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 1: they were bullied by Oregon, UM, but they recruited well 1298 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: as they always do. They have a new coordinator in 1299 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: Jim Knowles, who comes over from Oklahoma State, and he's 1300 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: got to be good right away. But that's part of 1301 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: the gig. But they have so much more talent than 1302 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: anybody that they play. Um, they open with Notre Dame, 1303 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: so that's gonna have a ton of juice to it. 1304 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: But most especially like it's it's around the country. This 1305 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: is the other factor. It's kind of a down year 1306 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: across the country at the quarterback position. Um, the top 1307 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: of it is really good with Stroud and Young, but 1308 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 1: then after that it feels like it's a lot of 1309 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: a guy a year away type things. So it's really 1310 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 1: it's a good quarterback market, but it's but if they're 1311 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily on the best teams, like Georgia doesn't have 1312 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: a guy necessarily, l s U doesn't have a guy necessarily, 1313 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: So Clemson's guys and draft Eli or is draft eligible, 1314 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: but was really bad last year. So I think it's 1315 01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: really ohighest. To me, it's o highest state and it's 1316 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: and we'll see it for the national title. That's the 1317 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: way it seems to me. No, I think we would 1318 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 1: all take that. We would all sign up for that. 1319 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: Uh So the Sporting News out with their uh preseason 1320 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: All American first and second teams. Only two Buckeyes on 1321 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:28,439 Speaker 1: that first team Jackson at receiver and maybe Trevion Yes 1322 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: sir running back. Yeah, three on the second team Stroud, 1323 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Johnson and Ruggles, but no one on defense. Well that's it, though, 1324 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: they were really what I mean, so here's all right, 1325 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: here's how this is the way that it is. So 1326 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: they get they probably get the right to. I mean, 1327 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: it's you're projecting with Trevion Henderson. He was great as 1328 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: a rookie as a freshman, but you need you know, 1329 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: he needs even more of that. It's not a surprise defensively. 1330 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 1: But this is why, this is why Jim Knowles was 1331 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 1: brought in because as on their defensive line are the 1332 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 1: number one and number two ranked defensive ends from two 1333 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: years ago and j T two him a little while 1334 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: um and uh Jack Sawyer who's a who's a Columbus kids, 1335 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: So both those guys are there on the defensive ends. 1336 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: They're going into their sophomore years. It's time for them 1337 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: to really explode. And then Zack Harrison was the number 1338 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 1: one defensive end in the country a couple of years 1339 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: ago and he's back for a senior season. So those 1340 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: guys need to ball out a little bit. They're not 1341 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: good at linebacker. They're not. It could very well be 1342 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: a freshman named c. J. Hicks who may end up 1343 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 1: being the starter there. Um, they do have a kid 1344 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 1: named Denzel Burke at corner, which I'm surprised he didn't 1345 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 1: make some mention on one of these lists because he's 1346 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: really really good. But as I'm looking at the quarterbacks 1347 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,439 Speaker 1: corners on the list, like Eli Rix is the second 1348 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: team corner at Obama, he's a dude. Um, So that's 1349 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, I guess I can kind of understand her 1350 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: that a little bit that they that they left those 1351 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: guys out. But uh so they got shrouded second team 1352 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: and then Paris Johnson his second team. Okay, yeah, I 1353 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: mean it's you gotta remember too, the hundred and thirty schools. 1354 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they got a kid from Introl Michigan here 1355 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: on the second team All American offense, So you know 1356 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 1: that happens too. Is there any concern about this defense? Yeah, sure, yeah, 1357 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 1: because the last time we saw him against great teams, 1358 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 1: they were bullied. They were bullied by Oregon, they were 1359 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: bullied by Michigan, they were bullied by Utah. Now they 1360 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: beat Utah because they had Jackson Smith of Jigbead three 1361 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving in the game, you know, so they 1362 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: were able to beat Utah despite it. Um, No, they were. 1363 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: They were pushed around by Michigan. They were pushed around 1364 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 1: by Oregon and they were pushed around by Utah. And 1365 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: you can't have that. You can't have that, man, not 1366 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 1: if you're gonna win a national title, not if you're 1367 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna beat Bama. You can't get pushed around. Because the 1368 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: two best players probably in college football going into the season, 1369 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Bryce Young won the Heisman, he's a Bama and then 1370 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,799 Speaker 1: Will Anderson is probably the best player in college football 1371 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,680 Speaker 1: the defensive end uh at at Alabama outside linebacker. He's 1372 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,879 Speaker 1: probably the best overall player in college football. And he's Obama. 1373 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: So it's like it's the same teams. Man, It'll it'll 1374 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: be the exact same teams running it back on this thing. 1375 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: So well, we'll see how it goes here. But no, 1376 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: that's it's it's gonna be the usual suspects for sure. 1377 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: As as we get down to it gonna be a 1378 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 1: fun year for the Buck and opening it's Notre Dame 1379 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 1: is pretty pretty good. That's a good going down. The 1380 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: wife and I are going down. I've heard that from 1381 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,719 Speaker 1: a lot. God bless you. I think it's gonna be awesome. Um, 1382 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: it's I'm debating whether to take the boys or not. 1383 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, my buddy Laura Nitis is gonna be coaching 1384 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. I can't even imagine what's going to 1385 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 1: go through his mind with that. They're honoring the O 1386 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 1: two team in that game as well, So there's gonna 1387 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: be a lot of emotion of that. The O two 1388 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 1: National championship games, there's a lot of that O two 1389 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: to another game. You could you could throw too much 1390 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 1: into Week one. Week one can speak for itself. Notre 1391 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 1: Dame speak good point out of you. Notre Dame speaks 1392 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: for itself. Week one speaks for itself. All of those things. 1393 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: You really it's you don't need to do the O 1394 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: two team. Yeah, I think they wanted to. I think 1395 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: they want to the big, big stage for Truss, you know, 1396 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 1: it's what I think they wanted. I think they wanted 1397 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: a big stage for him and so I think plus 1398 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,480 Speaker 1: it will allow him to hug Marcus Freeman and James Laurnitis, 1399 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: you know. So it doesn't help that it gets in 1400 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: their mind a little bit. Hey here's your head coach. 1401 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: He's on the other sideline now, so you know, maybe 1402 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: you get into their heads. Certainly, Marcus has had a 1403 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: little bit leading into that one. Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland, 1404 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: US recycling family owned and operated where they joined them 1405 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 1: as a customer, as an employee become part of the family. 1406 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 1: Is at rumpy dot com to learn more. And now 1407 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 1: here's Z's conversation with Jacoby Brissette from back in April. 1408 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Let's have a listen. So, Jacoby, let's walk through kind 1409 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: of your mindset this offseason. What made this feel like 1410 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 1: the place that you wanted to continue your career. I mean, 1411 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: obviously give you another opportunity to play in the National 1412 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Football League, which is a huge, you know, accomplishment for 1413 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 1: anybody and any state of their career. So that that 1414 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 1: was one of the main things. And Dan, you know, um, 1415 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, just the unknown was was was appealing to me. 1416 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 1: So um, you know, provided me with that opportunity, uh, 1417 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 1: to you know, to possibly get a chance because you 1418 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 1: never know, um you know, you always want to play 1419 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 1: away from starting and and um, you know, and that's 1420 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: what I wanted this all season. And and you've been 1421 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: with the New England Patriots, the Colts, Miami, now here 1422 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 1: with the Browns. Were there any ties I was trying 1423 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: to chat o'sha was probably still with the Patriots when 1424 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: you were there but did you really know many people here? 1425 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Chad, Chad was there when I was 1426 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 1: in New England and then uh, and Andy Anthony Walker 1427 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,720 Speaker 1: was with me. It was with me, But other than that, 1428 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't really think it was many other other connections, uh, 1429 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: that I had on the team. And you and A 1430 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Walker pretty tight if I'm not mistaken, you flew up together. 1431 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: We're Yeah, we're really really good friends. Yeah, he is 1432 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: a fine man and somebody certainly we've enjoyed getting to 1433 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: know over the past year. And then glad that he's 1434 01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 1: back for this year as well. Before we get into 1435 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 1: the A Ball and all of that, I just wanted 1436 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: to talk to you about what did it mean to 1437 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: you to be the Walter Payton Man of the Year 1438 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 1: nominee for the Colts. Uh, you know, it's awesome. Uh, 1439 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely one of the highlights of my career. 1440 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 1: Uh is being acknowledged by my team as as one 1441 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 1: of the guys is the forefront of of our community, 1442 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: obviously with so many other guys that were worthy of 1443 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: that that nomination. Uh, to be in that category and 1444 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,600 Speaker 1: being being too those conversations, conversations when it comes to 1445 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 1: that that PROCEDUREUS awards is always a great accomplishment, something 1446 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 1: that I always cherished, Uh, something that I actually, I mean, 1447 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 1: I just I live by that to always pour into 1448 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 1: the community and and and be there, um you know, 1449 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: as a support support for for you know, in any community, 1450 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: whether it's back home or the city that I'm in, 1451 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: hopefully leave it the um you know, with a lasting impact. 1452 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Um you know when I'm when I'm away from it, 1453 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: uh and uh hopefully have you know those I build 1454 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 1: those relationships with the communities that you know that um 1455 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, whenever I'm back there or whenever where I 1456 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: go home. Uh you know that, and you know that 1457 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 1: I'm never too far to reach from the from from 1458 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: the communities. How would did that get instilled in you? 1459 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: How did that become something that was so central to 1460 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,600 Speaker 1: your father? I think it was something that uh you know, 1461 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 1: I I kind of crave when I was a kid. 1462 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Um you know, and being being from where I'm from, 1463 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Uh you know, the people that gave back to the 1464 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,559 Speaker 1: community that I was in. Um you know, I would say, 1465 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: help you know, mold me and help give me opportunities 1466 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: to to help put me in a position that I 1467 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: am today. To to be able to reciprocate that, and um, 1468 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, I know how important those things were, and 1469 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,560 Speaker 1: I know how important those things are, and especially in 1470 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: the community that I grew up in, is is having 1471 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 1: having um, you know, to resource to be an outlet, 1472 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,759 Speaker 1: to go to the to the kids and to the community, 1473 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 1: to be a source of light. Uh you know. And 1474 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: I know how much of an impact that played on me. 1475 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 1: Uh So that was something that you know, my mom 1476 01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,759 Speaker 1: always instilled in us. And then and honestly, the community 1477 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 1: instilled in us is you know, we always gave the 1478 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 1: people that left always try to, uh you know, come 1479 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 1: back and give back to the community. That's awesome. And 1480 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're aware of Denzel Ward to just send 1481 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 1: a big extension the cornerback that you no longer have 1482 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,680 Speaker 1: to worry about on the field, which is good. He 1483 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about you either. You guys can 1484 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 1: deal that with that. In training campus are Walter Payton 1485 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Man of the Year nominee. And it's a big thing. 1486 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,719 Speaker 1: And and the sense that I've gotten from being around 1487 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, this organization for ten years, Like that's one 1488 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 1: of the few non quote unquote performance awards that carries 1489 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot of weight in a locker room. Definitely, definitely. 1490 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 1: And I think that you know when when UM players, 1491 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 1: when you when you see the amount of players in 1492 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: the locker room that I wouldn't say guys are competing 1493 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 1: for that a war, but the god the amount of 1494 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: guys that actually give back to the two communities and 1495 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 1: and and take pride in to you know, giving back 1496 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,719 Speaker 1: and going into those communities, and and and and spending 1497 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: their time and their their resources with with the with 1498 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 1: the community. UM. You see how reporting those things are 1499 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 1: and whether your nomination or a nominee or the winner, 1500 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't change. I don't think that really 1501 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 1: changes the minds of the guys that you know, they'll 1502 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: do it without the accolade. Absolutely, And you've come to 1503 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: an organization where that is something that is very very 1504 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: important here, right from the top on down, from the 1505 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: haslems on down. So I think you'll fit in very well. 1506 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: That way. You're gonna fit in very well on the field. Also, 1507 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: I was looking at your numbers two years of Starter 1508 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: and Indie thirty one touchdowns, thirteen interceptions. That's a great 1509 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio. Another five yards rushing through eleven, I 1510 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 1: had eleven touchdowns on the ground. What from those kind 1511 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:29,600 Speaker 1: of two seasons where you got that was kind of 1512 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,200 Speaker 1: your most extensive starting duty, what did you kind of 1513 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: learn about yourself as a player and to be able 1514 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,560 Speaker 1: to put up those kind of efficient numbers that the 1515 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 1: coaches love. Right when you're throwing thirty one touchdowns only 1516 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 1: thirteen picks over two seasons, they love that you're taking 1517 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: care of the football. Uh, you know, and it's it's uh, 1518 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 1: you know, just taking advantage of opportunities. Uh. And and 1519 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 1: I always put in a team first, and and those 1520 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,640 Speaker 1: and those things. But always stand ready, you know, in 1521 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: both those situations obviously, Um, I mean every I like 1522 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: to say thrust into those situations, but obviously, um, you know, 1523 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 1: being able to just come in and be prepared and understand, 1524 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: um you know, um who I am as a player, 1525 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 1: who I am as a person, and always being ready 1526 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: and being and being the guy that you know that 1527 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,800 Speaker 1: whenever my numbers called, like the coaches can count me 1528 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: and know that. You know that, Um, you know that 1529 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 1: the organization, the team, the offense, the game is is 1530 01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: It's no different when I'm there than than the guy 1531 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 1: that they originally wanted. But I also hold my myself 1532 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 1: to a standard that you know, I don't look at 1533 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: myself as a quote unquote backup. I I can't stand 1534 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 1: that word personally, but um, you know, I feel like 1535 01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,759 Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback in this league, and when I prisoned whenever, 1536 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 1: whenever the opportunity presents itself where I'm playing, I think 1537 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 1: I am consider the starter. So I just hold that 1538 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: with me and that in my preparation and how I 1539 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 1: carry myself because you never know when those situations occur. 1540 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 1: You know, you certainly do never know when those situations occur. 1541 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,519 Speaker 1: And I would imagine one of the ones that kind 1542 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 1: of just jumped right at to you go back to 1543 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 1: your rookie year, and if I'm not mistaken, I believe 1544 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 1: it was a Thursday night game against the Texans that 1545 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 1: you made your first start, and that one kind of 1546 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, right, and all of a sudden, 1547 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,720 Speaker 1: you're starting, and that was unbelievable. You guys go on 1548 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 1: and you win that one twenty seven to nothing. Yeah. No, 1549 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: I definitely, uh, you know, UH give me got hurt 1550 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 1: in the game before, uh and I finished the game 1551 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,680 Speaker 1: off against the Dolphins. I want to say, and then um, 1552 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: you know started that next week Thursday night, and then 1553 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 1: I end up having to start the next game. So 1554 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 1: this league happened so fast. Uh, you know, and I 1555 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: realized at a young age, which was like, I think 1556 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 1: it was very beneficial to me, Um, because I understood 1557 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 1: that and uh and I carry that with me is 1558 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 1: because you never know, um, when that play is gonna 1559 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 1: happen or when when your time' is gonna be called, 1560 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 1: so you know, always to be ready. Uh and um, 1561 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think that suited me well for my career. 1562 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 1: So I know you're around Tom Brady for a brief 1563 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 1: period time your first year in the league. He's regarded 1564 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: as one of the best you know, core her back 1565 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 1: sneakers in the league. Did he ever divulge any secrets? 1566 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 1: And the reason I asked this because, you know, watching 1567 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 1: the way that you were used at times in Miami, 1568 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: you were kind of almost like a short yardage weapon 1569 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 1: for them in this offense at times, and so was 1570 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: that something that you would did you pick up some 1571 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: tricks of the trade there. You're a big guy six 1572 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 1: to thirty, but you're incredible in these short yarded situations. Uh, 1573 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, you definitely learn uh, you know, it was 1574 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: just pretty cool to learn his life, uh, his techniques 1575 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 1: and in his mind set behind. But it ultimately just 1576 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 1: comes down to, you know, wanting to get the yard 1577 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,280 Speaker 1: and then doing everything you can. Um. I like to 1578 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 1: say that it's all my work. Obviously I'm not the 1579 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 1: one pushing the pile and those guys do that up front. 1580 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 1: But uh, but yeah, I mean it's cool though. I 1581 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,680 Speaker 1: mean it's by the way, it's a when you know 1582 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 1: it's third and one, fourth and one and you're daring 1583 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get the yard. That's a great weapon to 1584 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 1: have it at a coach's disposal, at a player's disposal, 1585 01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 1: and something. I think it's cool the way that you 1586 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 1: embrace that at times, you know in your career, saying look, 1587 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 1: I can help this team win, even if it's you know, 1588 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: you're ready. You're a starter, absolutely prepared, like a starter. 1589 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 1: You've shown that you can be a starter in this 1590 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,680 Speaker 1: league and play at a high level, but that you 1591 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: can do something that maybe other people just can't do 1592 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 1: what the level you can and it allows you to 1593 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 1: help your football team win. And definitely and and that's 1594 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 1: that's like my mindset any at any point in my 1595 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: career where the situation is, you know, I'm always gonna 1596 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes for the team to win. Uh, 1597 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,600 Speaker 1: but the team before myself obviously in every situation, and 1598 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,599 Speaker 1: and you know, those those opportunities presented those elsewhere where 1599 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,240 Speaker 1: where the team needed me to do that, and uh, 1600 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 1: you know is uh, you know, I definitely didn't take 1601 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 1: it lightly and I'm not trying to do those at 1602 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 1: the best of my abilities. You're a super Bowl champ, 1603 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: You've been around it, you've seen it, you know the 1604 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: way that it needs to be there for one of 1605 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,760 Speaker 1: the great super Bowls really in NFL history, with that 1606 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 1: comeback against the Falcons. When you look at this team 1607 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 1: and you look at some of the talent that's been 1608 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: amassed here, what is, if there is anything, is that 1609 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: the secret and greet the NFL? Everybody is good, right, 1610 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: every team is good, has has good to great players. 1611 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 1: What's kind of that secret ingredient? And I know you're 1612 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: you're chasing that quest to get back there again, but 1613 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 1: it's a nice way to start off the career, by 1614 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: the way, what is kind of that thing that you 1615 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: kind of gleaned from your time and you're in the 1616 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,320 Speaker 1: NFL about what's that little that secret sauce that it 1617 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:24,440 Speaker 1: that extra that allows teams to have that success. Um, 1618 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't consider it a secret. I think 1619 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 1: the thing is to be consistent and be there every 1620 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 1: day and work hard. Uh. And I think that's that's 1621 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: really what it is. Uh. And I think that's what 1622 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,759 Speaker 1: I've learned. Uh. Throughout that year being in New England. 1623 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,639 Speaker 1: It was just like, you know, the thing that that 1624 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: the team did was the same things every day and 1625 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 1: and didn't take those things for for granted. Um. And 1626 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 1: I think every year is totally different, every team is 1627 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 1: totally different. And I think right now we're building those 1628 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 1: those good habits, those those things that we can lean on. 1629 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 1: Our fundamentals are technique are found day of the offense 1630 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 1: of the team or the defense of the special team. 1631 01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,559 Speaker 1: I think that's what we build right now. And you know, 1632 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: I think when when when everybody comes together and we 1633 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: believe and we trust those things and that we all 1634 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 1: know that we're all the same page, I think that's 1635 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 1: what builds, you know, championship teams. I think it's obviously 1636 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: too early to tell, to tell everything because we haven't 1637 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 1: played the game, but um, I think those are the 1638 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 1: things that you lean on, is just like, hey, right now, 1639 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: what is our objective and our goal and being able 1640 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 1: to attack that because we ultimately know that our our 1641 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,600 Speaker 1: our final goal is to be a champion. Initial impressions 1642 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,200 Speaker 1: of Kevin Stefanski. You've had an opportunity be around obviously 1643 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 1: different head coaches Bill Belichick, regarded by many as the 1644 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 1: greatest of all time. What are your kind of initial 1645 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 1: initial impressions of of coach Stefanski. I mean, you can 1646 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 1: obviously tell that he's, uh, you know, he's gonna be 1647 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 1: the same guy every day. You know, he's been the 1648 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: same guy since I've met him, when I came on out, 1649 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,559 Speaker 1: when I came up here and talking to him, and 1650 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,720 Speaker 1: then uh being around the last couple of days in 1651 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 1: the building, he's been the same guy every day. He's 1652 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 1: talking to the players and uh, other coaches and other 1653 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 1: people on the staff. You know, everybody always says he's 1654 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,679 Speaker 1: the same guy every day. Which as a player, that's 1655 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 1: one of the things that you want the most is 1656 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 1: that got to be the same guy whether you're winning 1657 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,920 Speaker 1: or losing, or your up or down, because you know, uh, 1658 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 1: you know that's somebody that's gonna be the consistent um, 1659 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 1: you know, scare of the ship. You know, as the 1660 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 1: head coach. You know that that's uh uh when you 1661 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,439 Speaker 1: know where you stand with the head coach as that 1662 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 1: trickles down and UM you know obviously Um has has 1663 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 1: had very uh, very much success uh in his career 1664 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 1: as a head coach, so UM, you know, I'm excited 1665 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,040 Speaker 1: to be around him and learn from them. What's it 1666 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 1: like for a veteran like yourself to be able to 1667 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 1: come to an organization where you've got you know, your 1668 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 1: head coach was a play caller. Obviously, that's why one 1669 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 1: of the reasons he got the job, but he did 1670 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,680 Speaker 1: in Minnesota was able to come in was the coach 1671 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 1: of the year two years ago. You've got, you know, 1672 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 1: the venerable Bill Callahan, who's been a play caller and 1673 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,720 Speaker 1: head coach in his own right. Chat O'shay was a 1674 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: play caller in Miami. You've got Alex Van Peltan has 1675 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: been a color in Cincinnati and has worked with obviously 1676 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 1: with as a Green Bay coach quarterback coach there with 1677 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,479 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers for a while. To have so many guys 1678 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,639 Speaker 1: and then in your room, Drew Petsing, who has worked 1679 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 1: his way up kind of very much like Kevin sa 1680 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 1: fancy get an opportunity to come into the quarterback room 1681 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,680 Speaker 1: for the first time with you guys, what what's kind 1682 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,599 Speaker 1: of your thoughts on the staff like that that works 1683 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,280 Speaker 1: so well together but has such an a vast background 1684 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 1: of experience actually doing it at the highest level this 1685 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 1: league has to offer. I think that's I think that's 1686 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 1: when you watch film, you just see how how how 1687 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 1: collaborative you can tell how collaborative the group is. You know, everybody, um, 1688 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 1: you know has um you know input into the game 1689 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 1: plans and and you can see the the you know, 1690 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 1: the versatility of the offense and and and being able 1691 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 1: to call different plays at different times. And you know, 1692 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,640 Speaker 1: obviously I had experience with with O'shan and Chad and 1693 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,439 Speaker 1: being on the same same wave length and for him 1694 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,840 Speaker 1: as well. And you know, I remember coming in here 1695 01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 1: talking to him my first week here, and he was 1696 01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 1: just like, you know, we we you know input, we 1697 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 1: like collaborating, collaborating, and you know, having all that experience 1698 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 1: from other players, other coaches, um, you know, calling plays 1699 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 1: and then them trusting the players to give them ideas. 1700 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,720 Speaker 1: UM you know you can understand why you know this 1701 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 1: oftiness has been one of the best officers in the 1702 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 1: league the last couple of years. Is that cool as 1703 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,400 Speaker 1: a player and is that unique? Is that unique to 1704 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 1: have that kind of collaboration and want that much input 1705 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,439 Speaker 1: from players? Definitely, because because you know obviously, uh, in 1706 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,000 Speaker 1: this league, you know a lot of coaches, you know 1707 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 1: are you know, what they know is what they know. Uh, 1708 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 1: and it's hard to to to change and and and 1709 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 1: uh and that's that's that's good and bad at the 1710 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 1: same time, which, um, you know, being able to collaborate 1711 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 1: with not only more more coaches that have that have 1712 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: called plays and been in been the play caller, but 1713 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 1: players who are actually in the game. Um, and having 1714 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, the guy that's called that's doing the plays 1715 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,960 Speaker 1: has some some states. So it's pretty cool, pretty unique. Uh. 1716 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,840 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see how it will be. Uh 1717 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I'm sure to sure to turn 1718 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 1: out well because you know, obviously, Deshan has history playing, 1719 01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: Josh has history playing, and you know myself obviously, so 1720 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,280 Speaker 1: it would be pretty cool. You just mentioned your quarterback 1721 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 1: room and in your press conference Laer today you brought 1722 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 1: something up unprompted that I thought was, to use your words, 1723 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,640 Speaker 1: pretty cool, And you said, it's my first time being 1724 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 1: in an all black quarterback room. It's pretty cool. I'm 1725 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 1: not sure if it's it might be the first in 1726 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 1: league history. I'm not sure about that. We need to 1727 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,559 Speaker 1: get intro this program to figure that out. But it 1728 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 1: is a pretty powerful thing, and I'm not I don't 1729 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 1: know if you guys have discussed it, but the fact 1730 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: that you brought it up unprompted means that made an 1731 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 1: impact on you clearly. What is that? What does that 1732 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 1: feel like? What what do you hope to accomplish with 1733 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, that group? And what is I think a 1734 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 1: historic situation? Yeah, like I said the press, I mean 1735 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,719 Speaker 1: it's very unique. It's very cool. Uh, you know, not 1736 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 1: not too many chances. Uh you get something like that, 1737 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,640 Speaker 1: no where you know where black quarterbacks are just not 1738 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 1: and say just starting, but you know, over the over 1739 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,439 Speaker 1: the last you know, ten twelve years or getting you know, 1740 01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 1: the respect that we can actually do this position. And 1741 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,800 Speaker 1: then now you get a room with you know where 1742 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 1: it's all black, all black guys as quarterbacks. Uh in there, 1743 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Uh you know we haven't you know 1744 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,760 Speaker 1: when in depth about um, you know, the impact that 1745 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,080 Speaker 1: that is of having a group like that, which I'm 1746 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 1: sure we will soon. We just have been you know, 1747 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 1: all over the place for the last couple of days. 1748 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure when we sit down and just start like 1749 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,040 Speaker 1: really talking about you know, things that that will come up. 1750 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,599 Speaker 1: You know, it's very unique. It's like I said, it's 1751 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 1: very cool, um, you know, and the thing that accomplishes, 1752 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, just to to to show you know that, 1753 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, we all are very capable of handling handling 1754 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,360 Speaker 1: this position. We all are smart enough, we all can 1755 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 1: can play at a very high level. Um. And and 1756 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 1: we aren't here by a chance. You know, we all 1757 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 1: we all worked for this position and and you know 1758 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 1: all are are very worthy of being the room. Uh 1759 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 1: and to to hold the way of of an organization. 1760 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'm excited to show that you 1761 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 1: could certainly hear and see why this organization is so 1762 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,960 Speaker 1: confident if it is Jacoby were set to start the 1763 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,040 Speaker 1: year for a certain amount of time, why they are 1764 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: so confident in him. Impressive, impressive, guys, so much more 1765 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,600 Speaker 1: to come. You listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily Ones and 1766 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily, ESPN, Cleveland. Well, we're getting closer now, 1767 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,760 Speaker 1: give a couple of weeks out, middle of July, fact 1768 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 1: July fifteenth. This summer just flying by, um, but before 1769 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:32,719 Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna be here in camp. My friend, 1770 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,360 Speaker 1: one more week of relatively little activity and then it 1771 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 1: will really ramp up towards the end of that last 1772 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: week of July. I hope you have a fantastic weekend. 1773 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,640 Speaker 1: I know you are off on Monday. You're on assignment, 1774 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,920 Speaker 1: I should say on not on assignment Monday. Enjoy, enjoy 1775 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: your trek, enjoy your travels. Yeah, I will, my friend, 1776 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a nice weekend. I think Sunday 1777 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: should maybe a little chance, but it's not gonna be 1778 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,240 Speaker 1: degrees no, no, And quite frankly, we could use the 1779 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 1: rain a little bit, so I would be fine if 1780 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,640 Speaker 1: we get a little bit of it. You have a 1781 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,240 Speaker 1: good weekend as well. My friend will visit with you 1782 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,599 Speaker 1: guys next week. The next level is coming up next. 1783 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, everybody. 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