1 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: We chase the melodies that seem to find us until 2 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: they're finished songs and start to play when senseless acts 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: of tragedy remind us that nothing here is promised, not 4 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: one day. The show is proof that history remembers we 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: live through times when hate and fear seems stronger. We 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: rise and fall, and light from dying embers remembrances that 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: hope and love lasts longer. And love is love is 8 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: love is love is love is love is love is 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Love cannot be killed or swept aside. I sing that 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: that's a symphony. Eliza tells her story. Now fill the 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: world with music, love and pride. Thank you so much 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: for this. 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: So that was may Lynn Manuel Miranda last night at 14 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: the Tony Awards gave that speech after what happened in Orlando, 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: and I just wanted to start the show with that 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: because I feel like we all sort of woke up 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: yesterday to that, to the news and what happened in Orlando. 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: Fifty dead. 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: I got on the plane from Savannah at like seven 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: am or nine am, and there was twenty something dead. 21 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: And I got off in New York and there was 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: nearly fifty And I feel like I didn't really, it 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: didn't really hit me until today. I didn't let it 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: hit me till today. I didn't really read a ton 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: of headlines about it, but it got me down. It 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: was like weighing on me. I was a little I 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: was crankier today. 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: I was snappy. 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: And it's hard to feel like optimistic about anything ever changing. 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: I feel like when. 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: Things like this happened, right, you know, it didn't hit 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: me because I saw it on the news and it 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: was like a like instantly, like my inner guard went 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: up when like when something terrible happens and I don't 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: want it to like drag me to a dark place, 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: so like that shield went up, like no, no, no, no, Tiffany, 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: Like I don't want to go to this dark place, 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: you know, of sadness. 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: But then I read the story about this. 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: Young man who was there and he texts his mom, Mommy, 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: I love you. 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to die today. 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 4: And he goes on to text her me and a 44 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: few people, there's a man here shooting. I've run to 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: the bathroom. We're here in the bathroom. We're scared. He 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: just goes on to say he's coming, he's coming, he's here, 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: he's he's a terror and then that was it, and 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: his mother heard about the incident ran to the club, 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: but she had not received the text, I believe until 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: she had actually gone to the club, and that she 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: went to call him and look down and realized he'd 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 4: been texting her and he didn't make it. The gunman 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: took his life, and it just that was the thing 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: that like knows she could protect my heart and soul against, 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: just feeling this deep sense of like, oh my god, I. 56 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: Can It's like twofold one. 57 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: I can't even imagine the terror he must have felt, 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: you know, of thinking to yourself, this is where I'm 59 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 4: going to die. And I want to tell my mother 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: I love her, and what she must have felt reading 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: these words from her son, knowing how she's probably internalizing 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 4: how she feels like he felt at that moment. 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 5: And it's just. 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: I just don't I don't even know. It's just it's 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: just terrible. There's nothing you can say, but this is 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: just terrible. 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: I think I got so many more texts. I mean, 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: mass shootings in America, I mean, this was the deadliest 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: in history, but they happen a lot, and not just 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: in America but abroad. But I feel like the shootings 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: in Paris and the one yesterday in Orlando yesterday morning, 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: really early. They I got many more texts from my friends, 73 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: a few friends after these shootings and tweets and stuff, 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: because I feel like because they happened to young people 75 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: doing things young people do, going to a concert in Paris, 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: going to a soccer game in Paris, going to the 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: club on a Saturday night in Miami, or not sorry 78 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: or no Orlando, which when I was twenty two, you know, 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: I went out every weekend. It hits you harder because 80 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: you realize that could have been me. I know a 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: lot of young people are bleeding for these kids who died, 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: their families and although they got the killer, you know, 83 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: we've already there's it's hard to feel hopeful that these 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: families will get any source of justice, you know, once 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: the killer. The killer obviously is dead. So it's like, well, 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: what good can come of this possibly stricter gun laws. Well, 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: the fact that a guy who has been investigated by 88 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: the FBI for nearly a whole year, yeah, was able 89 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: to go out and buy an assault rifle. 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 5: And it's salt rifle. 91 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: And honestly, the fact that why why does anyone, why 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: does any lay person need an AsSalt rifle? 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 3: You know, deer or pack in these days. 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: Is exactly like fifty rounds a minute, forty rounds a minute, 95 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: like literally the only purpose of that is to kill someone, 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: and to kill not someone, but to kill someones. You're 97 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: not using an assault rifle to take down these bayar 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: out there, Like the purpose of that is like, okay, 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 4: to kill a large amount of people. 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 5: Because what's really the purpose? 101 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: And if you're not in the army or like a 102 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 4: police officer or whatever, then why do you need that 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: level of firearm? And it's just scary that that you 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 4: said something I think you were talking about earlier and 105 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: you said, how the President said that you could be 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 4: on the no fly list and get a gun. 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 5: Why should that be? 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just was talking about this out of town 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: hall that I happened to. I saw a clip of 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: it about gun control on Facebook, and I've been paying 111 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: really close attention to what Obama's been saying in his 112 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: last year because I feel like he's letting his guard 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: down a little bit. And a guy it was on 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: pbis the guy in the crowd asked about his gun 115 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: control laws and he's like, it's impossible for us to 116 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: invoke change when lobbyists and the NRA are are selling 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: lies to there to a very specific group of Americans, 118 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: to gun owners that were trying to take their guns away, 119 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: and that you know it's going to be martial law 120 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. Well, all they want 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: to do is prevent people like this who've been investigated 122 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: again by the FBI for months and months and months 123 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: from being able to purchase those types of weapons. And 124 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: it seems pretty logical, but you know, people who have 125 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: been sharing this other this headline that sort of comes 126 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: out sadly now with every mass shooting. But if in America, 127 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: over twenty children who died at the hands of an 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: assault rifle weren't enough to bring about gun control changes, 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: then like how can we you know that was over 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: we lost, like when we decided that it was okay 131 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: as a nation, you know, by our inaction for over 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: twenty kids to be gunned down, Like the gun control 133 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: fight was pretty much. 134 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Like lost, you know to a lot of people. 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: And it's it's a pretty dark and twisty way of 136 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: looking at it, but it's like what else, you know, 137 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: what's where's the hope exactly. 138 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: If dying three, four, five, six year olds are not 139 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: enough to say, you know what, something has to be done, 140 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: then then really what else can be said? 141 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: In the triple layer? The fact that it was a 142 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: homophobic man shooting up a gay club, like the tear 143 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: on the you know who had been a suspected isis sympathized, 144 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: sympathizer before. Just all the different layers of hate that 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: were involved in this, it make it makes it tougher 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: to feel like this was preventable. Yeah, you know what 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Like, it's hard to prevent hate and homophobia. 148 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: It's hard to prevent gun violence. But yeah, I'm kind 149 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: of speechless. 150 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: Yeah it is. 151 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So well, I guess we can talk about the 152 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: silver lining of all this is. I mean, people, did 153 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: I feel like there's been an outpouring of like love 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: and support for Orlando. I saw that they put out 155 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: a call for blood donations because there was, you know, 156 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: so much. I mean, there is fifty more victims who 157 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: haven't died, who are injured and need blood, and there 158 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: was I saw pictures of lines in Orlando like that 159 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: looked like they were stretching blocks miles even of people 160 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: lining up to give blood. So if you want to 161 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: do something, or you want to act outside of mailing 162 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: your local representative, letter, email or whatever, you can go 163 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: out and give blood. That's one thing you can do 164 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: for sure, especially you miss golden, golden blood. 165 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: I know, so I have type you said it's type 166 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: O negative manual. How does Mandy? 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: No? 168 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 5: And I don't know what is that blood? What's the 169 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: blood type again? That can give to everyone? 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: Oh negative? 171 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 5: Oh negative? 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I have OH negative, which means that I'm a 173 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: universal donor, but not a universal receiver. 174 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 5: I think I can basically just take OH negative. 175 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: I'm not super for certain, but I know that people 176 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: like me really should. First of all, one, you should 177 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: know your blood type, and if you find out that 178 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: you have a rare blood type that could be useful 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 4: to society, then you should donate. And I know I 180 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: should be talking to myself I am, and also setting 181 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: aside even some blood for yourself if you have a 182 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 4: rare blood type. That way, if anybody thinks anything happens 183 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: to you, you can give your own self blood like. 184 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: A little vampire. Right. 185 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I mean, it's a simple thing to do, 186 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: but it's something that you know. I used to give 187 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: blood in college because they had a blood drive all 188 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: the time, you know what I mean. But when you're 189 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: a grown up, it's like where do you go? You 190 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: can probably find the Red Cross website, find a blood 191 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: donation center in your area. You never know when people 192 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: might need it. So exactly, I might actually sign up 193 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: to do that because I'm feeling kind of helpless about 194 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: what to do. People in Orlando probably won't be using 195 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: my blood, but someone else might. Exactly, maybe I'll give 196 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: a kidney on at it sow down there? 197 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: Son, what else do you need? 198 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: But and I would and try, and I've been trying 199 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: to read. Finally there's you know, it always takes a 200 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: while for the first stories are always about the killer 201 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: and his motive and that kind of stuff. But finally 202 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: we're starting to hear about the victims themselves. And I 203 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: shared a story on the Brown Ambition Facebook page and 204 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: encourage you guys to share links or positive messages or 205 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, whatever you want to get this out. If 206 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: you feel like you need a place to talk about this, 207 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: you know, feel free to use our Facebook page, tweet us, 208 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: email us at Brown Ambition podcast at gmail dot com, 209 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: and share some of the the other sides of this story, 210 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: because you know, I feel like it's it's maybe we're 211 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: all sort of like our guards all up and we're 212 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: all trying to self protect when things like this happen. 213 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: But you know, I already feel better talking about it. 214 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 5: Finally, yeah, I do feel better talking about it. 215 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: Little therapy, little brown ambition therapy, won't we won't charge 216 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: you on the house. 217 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: So originally I wanted to do a brown break, but 218 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: I saw, you know what, we have enough sadness, So 219 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: instead I want to do a brown boost. And my 220 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: brown boost is Great Girlfriends. So Great Girlfriends is a podcast, 221 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: but I really want to do a brown break or 222 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: brown boost for a great girlfriends in general. So the 223 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: podcast the Great Girlfriends. They had a conference this weekend 224 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 4: called what Women Want, and the whole premise of Great 225 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: Girlfriends is just like having amazing relationships with the women 226 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: in your life and being just good and great girlfriends 227 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: to them. And I met some really great girlfriends this 228 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: week and some new ones. I shared a panel with 229 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: a woman named Ebbie and I cannot remember her lasson Antigua. 230 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 4: That's what it was. Ooh, I got it, and b 231 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: and sigwe which are like my memory, like hardly ever 232 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: pop comes through in a clutch. 233 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, look at you memory. 234 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: So Edbie Antigua, she started Latina magazine and she is amazing, 235 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: and she told me that before we met, someone was like, 236 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, when you meet Tiffany, you're gonna love 237 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: her because you guys are like the same. And when 238 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: I met her, it was instant, like her energy was 239 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: just it was like a soulmate, you know, but like 240 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: just as a girlfriend. 241 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 5: And I was just like, oh my gosh. We just 242 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 5: ended up laughing and joking. 243 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: It was at the networking mixer the day before the 244 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: panel and my other friend Mimi g Style and her 245 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: partner Tico. So Mimi is one of I think she's 246 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: got like the top three DYI followings on social media. 247 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: She does like DYI sewing and fashion and she's got 248 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: a huge movement and brand, like over a million people following. 249 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: And so I met Mimi at a conference before, same thing, 250 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: instant like, oh my gosh, this person is someone who 251 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: was fun, nice, genuine and kind, and so all of 252 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: us ended up going out to dinner. My publicist who's 253 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: also my best friend. 254 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 5: She hates when I say that. 255 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, whatever you are, You're her client, I know, right, 256 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 3: I'm like. 257 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: Whatever, me Me Me, Me's friend and partner Tico John 258 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: and Ebbie and we ended up going to this delicious 259 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: uh I think it's Peruvian restaurant in New York called Popo. 260 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 5: Have you heard of it? 261 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 262 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, on the West Side. 263 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: Like oh mg, that's what I say. Whatever I want 264 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 4: to like whatever I think of that name. But you 265 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: would have thought we were like drinking liquor as much 266 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: as we were laughing and talking and sharing. And meanwhile, 267 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: these are like women who are super successful, like like 268 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: Ebbie started Latina Magazine, this very popular, well known magazine 269 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: for Latina women. Here me bg is and her partner 270 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: with this like million people following, and they were just 271 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 4: giving tips and sharing. And here Drina is who she's 272 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 4: represented all of these huge brands, and just the sharing 273 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: at the table was amazing. Not only did we talk 274 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: about relationships and love, and we talked about you know, 275 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: business and gave each other tips and it was just 276 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: such a great, amazing just giving and vironment where we 277 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: were just enjoying each other. And I just want to 278 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: boost that that if you have a great girlfriend, Call 279 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: her today, give her a hug, tell how much you 280 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: love her. Then I'm really really fortunate in that I 281 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: have been surrounded by great girlfriends my whole life. I 282 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 4: was born into a family of five girls, and so 283 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: I was born with great girlfriends. 284 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: And just from you, Mandy, to my best. 285 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: Friend Drina, and my other best friend Linda who's helped 286 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: me so much, to just all of my mom my aunts, 287 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: I have just been really fortunate. And I just want 288 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: to boost that that sometimes, you know, you hear that 289 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: women don't get along or whatever stuff did they tell 290 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: you that about women that I don't believe to be 291 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: true that you know, I can honestly debunk that. I 292 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: have one hundred and sixty thousand women that work together 293 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: now through the Budgetista, and I see nothing but great girlfriends. 294 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 5: And so I want to boost. 295 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: That that's beautiful. 296 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, girlfriends can't get along, but you know, I'm going 297 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: to say it's not always the case. But I don't 298 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: think that's a thing. Like I don't think it's like 299 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: you have to be great girlfriends with everybody. But it's 300 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: all about it's about finding those people who are good 301 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: for you. And it's like your group was how many 302 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: people for that at the dinner? Yeah, at the dinner, one, two, three, four, 303 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: five of us see a. 304 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: Small little group. 305 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: This all goes back to, like, you know, I think 306 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: it's it's like picking with purpose the people that you 307 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: surround yourself with, you know what I mean, Yes, agreed, 308 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: and just when they when they accidentally sort of come 309 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: into your life that. 310 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: Way exactly, And just like recognizing energy because you know, 311 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: sometimes people are in a place that it's not about you. 312 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: They're having a hard time for whatever reason, and so. 313 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: That's why there's maybe this like weird tension that it's 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: just coming from whatever it is that they're dealing with. 315 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: And just like I'm actually. 316 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: Gonna like for my win later I'll share a book 317 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: that I think everyone should read. But yeah, I just 318 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: think recognizing energy and really leaning toward the energy that's 319 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: like good and the energy that's kind of off, just 320 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: kind of side stepping it and not making a big 321 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: deal out of it and. 322 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: You get the energy you give exactly. I have a 323 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: really bad one of my negative trades. 324 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't only have a couple, but when 325 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, there's so few, but I really 326 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: I try and work on. This is when you know, 327 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: one bad thing happens, I let it's like a domino 328 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: thing and I'm like, well that thing happened. Oh yeah, 329 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: I know that thing's gonna happen too, and then that 330 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: thing's gonna and like before you know it, like everything 331 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: is the worst and the day is you know over, 332 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: and you like let yourself kind of like sink down 333 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: in that, and then you're cranky when you go to 334 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: the grocery store. And then you're cranky, you know what 335 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, And you're cranky to the person at work, 336 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: and then they hold a grudge against you. It's like 337 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: you just trail this toxic perfume and then then the 338 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: cloud lifts an hour later. But people don't forget that 339 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: you were just you know, bitchy to them, or you 340 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: made them feel bad when you rush past him in 341 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: the hallway and didn't say hi because you're in a 342 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: bad mood. And it's like that Maya Angelou quote which 343 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: says people don't remember what you did, but they never 344 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: forget how you made them feel exactly. And yeah, I'm 345 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: working on that. It's not I'm not great at it. 346 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: Sometimes I still have those bad days but that's like 347 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: the only bad thing I do is so I'm generally 348 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: pretty perfect. Oh that was positive, All right, shall we 349 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: move on? 350 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I believe so. 351 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: Question. 352 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: So we put out a call for questions last week 353 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: and every week, but you guys really answer that call. 354 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: I got really good questions, and I if you may 355 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: not hear a question today, but it doesn't mean you're 356 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: not going to hear her on the next podcast, but 357 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: the one after that. This is a pretty in depth question. 358 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna leave it to this one today. 359 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: It's from a twenty nine year old single mom. God 360 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: bless you, she's a mother. I'll read her whole. I'll 361 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: read most of her letter. She says, I'm a twenty 362 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 2: nine year old single mother to a teenage boy, and 363 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, I decided to go back to college 364 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: as a non traditional student. It was one of the 365 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: toughest things to do, but I finally graduated May twenty 366 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: sixteen with my bachelor's in Business Admin with legal studies. 367 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: She's also African American and a first generation college graduate, 368 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: so she's I've been working as a legal assistant at 369 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: a law firm for eleven months and I just found 370 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: out that my job doesn't pay based on education. They 371 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: pay best based on job titles such as legal assistant 372 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: one or legal assistant two. Assistant one makes thirteen to 373 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: seventeen dollars and two makes upwards of eighteen dollars. I 374 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: feel this is very limiting, and I've been applying for 375 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: other jobs. I have a couple of interviews, but no 376 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: offers of employment. I've learned lots of law firms want 377 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: to hire people with many years of experience, and I. 378 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: Don't have that. So here's her questions. 379 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: One, how can I be more successful in securing a 380 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: job that will pay me what I'm worth with my degree? 381 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: And secondly, I was thinking about starting my own side 382 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: hustle as a virtual freelance paralegal so I can contray 383 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: myself out to lawyers for forty to fifty dollars. I'm 384 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: assuming that's per hour, which is nice. So how can 385 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: I go about starting my business with little to no money? 386 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: I want to avoid getting a business loan because I 387 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: have to pay back thirty thousand dollars in student loan 388 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: debt later this year. Sincerely, we'll just call. 389 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: Her p Okay, do you want to tackle the first one, 390 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 4: and I can tackle the starting the business with no 391 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 4: money one? 392 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, how can I be more successful in securing a 393 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: job that will pay me what I'm worth with my degree? Well, 394 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: I think you have to know what you're worth. I 395 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: don't know what the going rate for legal assistance is, 396 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: but there are some great resources out there if you will. 397 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: It seems like you probably have people around you tangentially, 398 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: whether they work on your firm or mentors or peers 399 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: you can reach out to to find out. You know, 400 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: what are you paying? What's normal? Should I be happy 401 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: with thirteen to seventeen an hour or eighteen an hour? 402 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: Or should I be asking for more? And if you 403 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: find that people are making more than that and for 404 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: this same job, then I think you're doing the right 405 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: thing by getting out of there. 406 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: Have you thought about asking for more? That's one thing 407 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: you could do. I don't think you should. 408 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: It's hard when you are starting out entry level and 409 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: you feel like, oh, I'm the new kid and I'm 410 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: a first year, and you know, I'm not really in 411 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: a position to negotiate, but you are sometimes and you 412 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: never know. You never know unless you ask. Agreed, So 413 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: I would say, ask for more, find out what's reasonable, 414 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: find out exactly what you're worth with your degree. Some 415 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: resources as glass store, there's payscale, you know. I like 416 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 2: Georgetown Center for I forget what the acronum stands for, 417 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: but it's Storgetown CEW and it's an entire research arm 418 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 2: they have that they do study after study after study 419 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: on the value of a college degree and the different 420 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: careers and what they pay and the best return on investment. 421 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: And you can probably find they do hundreds of different jobs. 422 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: I'm sure paralegal, legal ass and is on there, and 423 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: they give you an idea of the salary and then 424 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: what you may earn in different states. And that's something 425 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: to think about too. Is like when you're asking people 426 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: for you know, hey, what do you make as a paralegal? 427 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: Make sure they live in an area that has a 428 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: similar cost of living. I know I probably make a 429 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: lot more in New York than I would in Georgia, Like. 430 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 5: A lot more, yeah, for sure. 431 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: And that can have a play a role in it too. 432 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: But I think you're smart to be to be looking 433 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: that's the way you either. I mean, your boss should 434 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: want to pay you what you're worth with your degree, 435 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: but if they're not, and you know that, then there's 436 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: no reason to stick around and you can just hit 437 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: the row jack exactly. 438 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: And two like maybe looking for like a mentor to 439 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: help you, because I, like, one of my best friend 440 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: under her sister is a lawyer, and when she first graduated, 441 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: she wanted me to be her mentor. She's asking all 442 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 4: these questions and I was like, Jenny, honestly, I don't know. 443 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: You need to go find as like a a lawyer 444 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 4: who's someone who's already a lawyer to like to answer 445 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: these because I'm not I can give you some like 446 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 4: life mentoring that kind of thing. 447 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 5: So she did. 448 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: She kind of like reached out, asked her mom and 449 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: found some lawyers who had a little bit more seasoning 450 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: in the game, and they've really been instrumental is that 451 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 4: the word, you know, in helping her move to the 452 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 4: next level. 453 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 5: So I would do that too. 454 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And a mentor sounds like a big, heavy 455 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: like mentor me, but it can just be an email. Hey, 456 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm new at this. 457 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 3: I want to know. 458 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: I want to be sure I'm getting paid fairly. You know, 459 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: can you give me advice? You know, what were you 460 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: making at my level? And people want to answer a 461 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: quick question, especially if you don't know them and you're 462 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: emailing them cold. 463 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: Just a quick question. 464 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: You don't have to tell her your whole life story 465 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: and how you know it's been paragraphs talking, you know, reading, 466 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: you know, talking about what that person's done and how 467 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: you admire them. Just quick, simple question and a thank 468 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: you note at the end. 469 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: Thank you notes. 470 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: So let me tackle that second question, which how do 471 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: I start a business with little to no money? Well, 472 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 4: the good news is it seems like you are in 473 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: an information business, right, that's what it seems like. Like 474 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 4: you're not looking for a brick and mortar, Like you're 475 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: not baking cakes, and you're like, I want to start 476 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: a bakery, so I have to you know, go rent 477 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: like commercial ovens and that kind of stuff. So information 478 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 4: businesses are traditionally way less expensive to start. So when 479 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: I started my business, my business really was just teaching 480 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 4: financial education, so I didn't My only overhead really was 481 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: like at the time, I used to like give out 482 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: like handouts, handouts, folders, and my computer that I needed. 483 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: So I'm not completely sure exactly what you do as 484 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: a paralegal, but I'm going to say it's safe to 485 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: assume that you do a lot of work. A lot 486 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: of your work is going to be done via your computer, 487 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: so you might not need I mean, you don't need 488 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: a business loan. It seems like really what I would 489 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 4: do is I would connect with a lawyer who is 490 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: well connected and then offer them your service at a discount. 491 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: So a lot of people don't want to do this. 492 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 4: Oh I know I'm worth this, but here's why. So 493 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: if you connect with someone who's well connected, like someone 494 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: like me. So I'm like a people person, so I 495 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody like that's 496 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: just my personality, right. So so many of my friends 497 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: or so many people who come on to work for 498 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 4: me end up getting a ton of new clients. Why 499 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: Because one, I'm a chatterbox and I'm a connector. So 500 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, Drina, she's so great, she's my publicist. 501 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: And Drina's gotten like so many new clients just because 502 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm a chatterbox and I'm a connector. And so if 503 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: you can work for or find a connected lawyer to 504 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 4: work with and do a really great job and ask 505 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 4: them to help share what you're doing with them with 506 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: people that they know, then that's gonna like, it'll really 507 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: help to grow your business more quickly than you'd be 508 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: able to on your own. So really it's about identifying 509 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: someone one that you like to work with, convincing them 510 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 4: to give you a chance to work with them. And 511 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: one of the best ways to convince people is to 512 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 4: do so at a discount, and then from there, you know, 513 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: hopefully leaning into their connections to help spread the word, 514 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: and that helps significantly. I can't tell you how many 515 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: times that I was like, what, you're working with this 516 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: friend and this friend in that fun now just because 517 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: I might have shared, like, you know that my admin 518 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 4: is amazing, and now she's got ten different phone calls, 519 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 4: you know. So I would start with that, start with 520 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: just the bare bones, because whenever people don't realize when 521 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: you first start a business, the worst thing you can 522 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 4: do is to invest in things where there's no direct 523 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 4: return on investment. Meaning this, like if I was going 524 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: to be a bake, Like if I wanted to bake 525 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: and like have my own bakery, I would start with 526 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 4: just purchasing the items that I could bake into baked hoods. 527 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: Here's why, because if I get my rants and I 528 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: get all these other expensive things. First, I can't I 529 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: can't sell those things in order to make my money 530 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: right back. But if I get eggs and flour and 531 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: sugar and all that kind of stuf, I can create 532 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: a cake, sell it and put that right back. 533 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: Into the business. 534 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: So in the beginning, do not invest in things that 535 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: you can't quickly use to sell back to make more money. 536 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: As you start to grow, you can get all the 537 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 4: fancy things that look like a business. But in the beginning, 538 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 4: you just want to be a business. So remember you 539 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 4: don't want to just look like a business or I'm 540 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 4: got a fancy website, a fancy business card, all these 541 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: things that you can't do anything with, you know. 542 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's what I would suggest. 543 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: Connect with an influencer and only invest in things that 544 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: you can quickly get a return on investment on. 545 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: In the very beginning, I've written about virtual assistance and 546 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: from the because she wants to be a virtual freelance paralegal, 547 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 2: which is basically like a virtual assistance and so so 548 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: many professionals use VAS. Now some you know, I've I 549 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: did a story on Yahoo about how to find how 550 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: to find a virtual assistant online and using sites like Elance. 551 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: There's a couple of other virtual assistant finding sites out there. 552 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that could be one avenue just to get started. 553 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: But you know, again, you want to talk to other 554 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: people who are maybe doing something similar and find out 555 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: what a good rate is, find someone you know who 556 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 2: can you can respectively ask maybe someone who's not You're 557 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: not going to be encroaching on their territory, you know, Yeah, 558 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But I think it's totally doable. 559 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't see why you couldn't. I definitely I knew. 560 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: I interviewed one blogger who was interviewed. Didn't make my story, 561 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 2: but she uh was a personal finance blogger and wasn't 562 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: making any money and she just you know, started talking 563 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: to other bloggers and realized they needed help managing their sites. 564 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: And she reached out and she was like, she picked one. 565 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: She started working for that person, and it was like 566 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: you said, like, you know, uh, they referred to her to 567 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: the next and to the next, and now she has 568 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: a whole business. And you know, I think that's the 569 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 2: right way to go about it. Word of mouth. That's 570 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: how you're probably gonna do. 571 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 4: Biz exactly because I'm telling you, especially like if you 572 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: have if you service entrepreneurs, like I know you said 573 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: you want to, you know, be a freelance player Leegal. 574 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: But there's so many up and coming entrepreneurs right now 575 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 4: who need assistance. I mean, I cannot tell you how 576 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 4: many of my friends are like, so your admin, right, 577 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: would you share her? Because everyone is looking for the 578 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: same thing. Everyone needs an admin, everyone needs a graphic designer. 579 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: There's so many things that, like, all of my entrepreneur 580 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 4: friends are looking for, and there's hardly anybody in these pools. 581 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 4: So tap into that market too. Kind of keep your 582 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: ear to the street, Like, so, what what is it 583 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: that they're looking for? Could I start off as an 584 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: admin and work my way toward like working for lawyers 585 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: in this way, you know, so be very flexible and good. 586 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: Luck with everything. 587 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: The fact that you went back to school, you got 588 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: your BA, and you got your BA and like a 589 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: useful skill, which is exciting to hear, business admin. You 590 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: can take that places. Yep, thirty thousand dollars in stand 591 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: a loan debt and that's average, so you're not dealing 592 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: with like an extraordinary amount of debt. So it seems 593 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: like you're in a good place. And be patient, like 594 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: we talked about before about you know, we're talking about 595 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: expectations when you're starting out obviously having a teen son, 596 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: you don't, you know, it's hard to be patient when 597 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: you're raising a kid by yourself, let alone a teenager. 598 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: And you know what teenagers want things, all the things. 599 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: They're very expensive. 600 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: But be patient with yourself and be nice to yourself. 601 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: And as you're starting and you know, as you're starting 602 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: your business, make sure everybody. 603 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: Knows you're you're what you're what you're doing. 604 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: Make sure everybody knows you know, peas out there she 605 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: wants to be a legal freelance assistant and they'll remember 606 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: that exactly. And good luck, and thank you so much 607 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: for writing. 608 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. 609 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: And if you guys have questions, you can email Brown 610 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: Ambition but uh Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com 611 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: dot com. 612 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 5: So now it's time for win. 613 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: But instead of a win, I wanted to do a book, 614 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 4: like a book share, and I think it's it'll be 615 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 4: a alignments kind of what we were talking about today, 616 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: just about maintaining positivity. Like there's this great book that 617 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: I read a long time ago, and I suggest that 618 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: everybody have like on their shelf. It's called Don't Sweat 619 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: the Small Stuff, and it is by Don't give Me 620 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: the Line. So this is where my old lady brain 621 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: is like, look, we helped you out earlier today. 622 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: So find the Google. Where's the Google? 623 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I am, don't sweat, just find the Google. 624 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 5: Don't sweat. 625 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: He needs a memory anymore. 626 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 4: I know, right, I'm like, yeah, okay. It is by 627 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: Richard Carlson, PhD. And it's honestly, it's a really quick 628 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: and easy read and I have given it laterally, I 629 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: bought the book. It was on sale at like Barnes 630 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: and Nobles ones for like next to nothing, So I 631 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: bought a bunch of them and gave it to all 632 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: of my friends and every single ones that came back 633 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: to me and was like, thank you so much. I 634 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: needed that because sometimes you get so stressed out and 635 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: so overwhelmed, and it's just it's just such a great, quick, 636 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: easy read to help you remember that, like one you're 637 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: here too, how to be grateful through how not to 638 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: internalize everything as like the world is falling. Chicken little, Remember, 639 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: chicken little, the world is falling. The world is falling. 640 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 641 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: I like having a chicken Little day today. 642 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 5: Yes, oh me too. 643 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: I mean, like yesterday today was pretty chill. But like 644 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 4: some things, you just get so overwhelmed. And then I 645 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: had to be like, well, like what a what am 646 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: I really complaining about? Like, nothing is wrong, you have 647 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: your health, your family is healthy. Superman is about to 648 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: pop the question throwing it out there in. 649 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 5: The universe. 650 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: Attract that ring girl, right. 651 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 4: And so when you remember those things, you're like, well, 652 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 4: what am I really focused on? And truthfully, like I've 653 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: given away, given it away so much, I think that 654 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna go get it for my kindle. 655 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: But I like the physical book version myself, and it's 656 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: just a good read. It's one of those like read 657 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: it once a year or every other year whenever you 658 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: just need a boost pick me up. So that's my 659 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: my suggested read for this week. Don't Sweat the Small 660 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 4: Stuff by Richard Carlson. 661 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I could use that ad all right, 662 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: So my win is gonna be real quick. But the 663 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: Tonys were last night, and I was really proud of 664 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: the show for you know, taking the moment at the 665 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: beginning to talk about Orlando and all that. But I 666 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: just wanted to say, this was like the blackest year 667 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: on Broadway, Like, can we talk about Hamilton like a 668 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: completely brown cast? 669 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: We had shuffle along, we have color Purple. 670 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: And I know a lot of our listeners probably don't 671 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: all live in New York, but just know it was 672 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: the blackest year on Broadway and four of the main 673 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: acting categories all went to black actors. 674 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: And that is a huge judge. 675 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: Deal, including including Cynthia Arrivio, who I talked about last 676 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: week like a little fangirl for her performance as Sealy 677 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: and the color Purple on Broadway. Oh and she won 678 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: and she was glorious and the dress and all that. 679 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it was. It's it's a major So I 680 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: hope it continues. I hope. 681 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: I feel like Hamilton broke down so many barriers this year, 682 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: not just Hamilton, but you know, other plays too, and 683 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: a lot of actors working really hard who've only ever 684 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: had a chance to be in. 685 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: Like The Lion King, you know. 686 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just nice to see that talent is 687 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: being recognized. 688 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 4: Oh that's nice. I like, have we turned it around? 689 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 4: Like you know, we're ending on a nice, positive, cheery note. 690 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: We try to I don't worry. Life's still worth living. Yes, 691 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: I've heard it here for. 692 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 5: But go hug somebody. Love somebody up today, including yourself. 693 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: I love myself. 694 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 5: I love myself. 695 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: Look in the mirror and you say, have you ever 696 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: done that? On a like last kind of side note, 697 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: have you ever done mirror work? Have you heard of 698 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: that before? 699 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: Like the affirmations? 700 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you look in the mirror and you tell 701 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: yourself whatever it is. Like I used to have a 702 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: mirror right by the door, and before I left every 703 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: morning for like almost six months, I wouldn't to practice 704 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 4: and see what this mirror work was all about. I 705 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 4: would tell myself like, you're amazing, You're awesome, You're beautiful, 706 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: more than enough every time I left it, every time 707 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 4: I came into the house, just to kind of like 708 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: fortify myself for the world. 709 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: And I loved it. I had to get back to 710 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 5: that mirror work. 711 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never done like that habitually, but I like, 712 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: I always know that we're really hard on ourselves as women, 713 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 2: as humans, and it's nice to one of my friends. 714 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: She and I were getting back into running when I 715 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: was training for my half marathon, and I got into 716 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: the habit of saying every time I felt like I 717 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna make it, I was like, I love you legs. 718 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: I love you legs. 719 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: Oh, thank my legs, Thank you legs. I love that 720 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: sounded so childish, but like, my legs have always been 721 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: an issue for me. I talked about my weight before. 722 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: In my whole life, I would never wear shorts or 723 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: skirts or things like that, like I, you know, would constantly, 724 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: like every picture, I'd be like an a knee length something. 725 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: And it's because I always felt that my legs weren't great. 726 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm almost thirty now and I've done 727 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: one hundred mile, I've done several hundred mile bike tours, 728 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: I've done a try athlon, it's done a half marathon, 729 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: and honestly, I'm not happy with my legs still, but like, 730 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: every once in a while, I'm like, these legs have. 731 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: Done you pretty good. Yeah, legs have taken you places. 732 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: They are strong. 733 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: They do not look like Carly Klaus or Naomi Campbell, 734 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 2: but they're your legs. And you know, it's just nice 735 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: to thank your legs every once in a while, or 736 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: whatever part of you don't like, you know, you know, 737 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: I love that they're still working. I still got them. 738 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that. I love you, Legs, I love you. 739 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: Likes thank you. 740 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: They are not saying I love you back right now 741 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: with this crosspit class, but me alrighty. 742 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 4: On that note, don't forget to tweet us at the 743 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 4: BA podcast and bind us on Facebook at Brown Ambition, 744 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: And we. 745 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 5: Love you, We love you, Legs, we love you Legs. 746 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 5: I love you, Oh, Madie, I love you too,