1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: To be able to take it to that next level. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: That's what I'm excited about. Bill's quick past doings and gramage. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: With the sack back at the twenty five yard line touchdown, 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: you'll stand rock and roll Trey Locksmith's Coast to coast. 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: There is no off season for your Houston Texans. Game 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: day is every day now. It's Texans All Excess. Hello Texans, 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: and welcome to the program that brings you inside NRG Stadium, 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: which has announced today will be the host stadium for 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: some World Cup action. One of many host cities for 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six World Cup. It was all announced today. 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: Dallas is one of them, Atlanta another, La San Francisco, Seattle, 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: I won't name them. All all over North America, Canada, 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Mexico included as well, but Houston certainly the host for 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: some World Cup activity. And you'll be hearing a whole 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: lot more about that. But welcome to Texans All Access, 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Many camp in the books. We've got the General John 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: McLean on today following his great event last night. General, 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: thank you for having me be a part of that, 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: singing a little song somebody great guests there last night. 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: It was fun. Thank you, we raised a lot of 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: money for being an angel. Dan Pastorin, he's one of 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: the executives and his charities. Everything Dan brings in goes 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: to be an angel for the hearing impaired children. And 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: it was a great night. A lot of people stepped 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: up for the auction items. There were ten people. I 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: thought Gary Kubiak stole the show, As I told Gary, 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: why weren't you that funny when you coached? He was tremendous. 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: You did a great job with the guitar with your 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: little retirement blows. I thought that was very clever. And 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm still overwhelmed by the support and all the and 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: everybody that stepped up with sponsorship, starting with Sarah Frasier 32 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: as Sports Radio six ten and Matt Mac who Mac 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: was supposed to go first, he went last because he 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: got his days wrong, and I like, that's what happens 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: when you bet twenty million dollars on the Astros to 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: win the World Series. And he got to ride a 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: bike from Gallery Furniture to the m BRA. But it 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: was a tremendous night. Thank you for being part of it. John. 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I find it, I don't say hilarious, but it felt 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: like the talking point on Twitter after the event was, 41 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Gary Kubiak is so funny. And I 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: find this interesting because Jeff Van Gundy, I think we 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: found out, has this personality that everybody loves, but when 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: he's coaching, you're so down in the details. But you've 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: known Gary for a long time, did you know he 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: had kind of the comedic shops? And maybe it was 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: just because he was roasting you or toasting you, but 48 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: did you kind of know he had that in him? 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: You've known him for that long? Did you know it 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: was there? No? What did not? I've seen I've talked 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: to Gary a lot, but I've never heard Gary couldbey 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: at ket people rolling in the aisles. That was the 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: biggest surprise everybody had. And he was funny. He came prepared, 54 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: he had some great lines, and I was so happy 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: he did it because he's headed the College World Series 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: where his Aggies are playing the Longhorns, coached by his 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: brother in law, David Bears, so he's got a lot 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: of baseball on his mind and it was great to 59 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: see Gary. But man, he stole a show. Well I 60 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: knew he would, and that's why when I saw the order, 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: I went up right after him, and I thought, oh, 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: that's great. And I knew before he went up John 63 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: and John, I knew that he was gonna be excellent 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: because every time I've done an event with Gary now 65 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Gary press conference, Gary is different. Press conference Gary makes 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick look like Chris Rock, all right, But Gary 67 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: at an event is completely different, totally animated. Did We've 68 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: had him at kickoff luncheons and draft luncheons. We used 69 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: to do that back in the day, And every time 70 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I've done an event, I did a touchdown club thing 71 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: with him once. He was wonderful at those, So I 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be great last night in that 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: setting at the Improv. And that's why I thought, all right, great, 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: i gotta follow Gary Kubia. The Improv is inviting him 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: back to do some stand up at his Convenius's good. John. 76 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: I'll ask you this about my partner to the left. 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: How was the song? How did he do? He did 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: really well. He was trying to sing low and somewhere 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: in there he's trying to mimic me, which of course 80 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: he can't do. But it was very clever that he 81 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: took the time to come up with lines like that, 82 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: and it was so different. My wife Carol leaned over 83 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: and said, can Mark play the guitar? I said, of course, 84 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be making a food out of himself like 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: that if he couldn't. She said, Kenny sing, I said, 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. After it, she said they can't, saying, well, 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: you know it's I kind of talked through it. It's 88 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: a talking through type song with a lot of clunky lyrics, 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: but the rhymes hit as long as the rhymes. Yes 90 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: they did, Yes they did, and it was very ingenious 91 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you making the effort to do that. Well, 92 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: it was fun and general. Let's talk about Mini Camp 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: because it's over now and the Texans head for their break. 94 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: They got a lot accomplished. I mean, I think every 95 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: team feels like that. I was talking with Gary Kubiak 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: last night about this because he's asking me how it's going, 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: and said, well, coach, if you don't think you've gotten 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: better during May and June, I mean, that's it, right, 99 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: you gotta pretty much hang it up at that point. 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: Everybody feels like they got better in May and June. 101 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: At least I hope they would. But the Texans certainly 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: look a whole lot better at this point than they 103 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: have last year. And then I'll say this, they look 104 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: a lot better at this point than they have in 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: many years of their history. Now they have to take 106 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: it from there and build from it and execute it. 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: But they are where they are, and this is what 108 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: we saw. What was your general take? First of all, 109 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: the offseason, Graham is about the metal. You know, nobody hits, 110 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: nobody covers, legitimately, nobody rushes. So you want to see 111 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: things from Davis Mills, like does as soon as he 112 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: drops back, does the ball come out? Is it accurate, 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: is it on target? Does it go to the right spot? 114 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: And Mills, look, I'm not saying he looks like a 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: different quarterback from the end of last season, because he 116 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: was really good over the end of the the last season. 117 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: But everybody's fired up about the step that they believe 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: he's going to take. And then what you really look 119 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: like and it'll take training camp before we know. Is 120 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: Damien Pearis, the fourth round pick who I believe a 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: rush for a thousand yards because of two reasons, emphasis 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: on the running game and the fact they want to 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: make the running game better because it was so bad 124 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: last year, Nico Collins as a wide receiver that stood 125 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: out the most of me. Can't wait to see John 126 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Matchie when he's one hundred percent and he's playing in 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: the slot between Collins and Cooks. And we know we 128 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: knew from the get go Thitis Howard's right tuckle A J. 129 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Ken is the right guard. I think it's only a 130 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: matter of time for Kenyon Green, second number one pick, 131 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: works his way into left guard. People are like handwringing 132 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: over Laramie Thumsil might being at OTA's, and as I, 133 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: as I've said on every show I've been on in 134 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: my forty forty five years covering the NFL, never at 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: the end of the season did I ever hear or 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: see anyone say or right that boy Matt, that Mark 137 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Vandomar had a bad season, he should have been at OTA's. 138 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: The time they get to the season OTAs or a 139 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: distant memory, people think about camp beginning, and that's when, 140 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: even though they don't go full out and blast each other, 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: you can still talk tell more about him and the 142 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: young guys, not just this year's draft, but the five 143 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: returning from last year. All of them flashed from Davis 144 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Mills down to Roy Lopez. You want to see see 145 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: magnificant improvement in them. And I've said it before and 146 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, And it's not just me Like 147 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: Spencer Tillman. I watched two practices with Spencer. I want 148 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: to see his observations. Everybody loves Jalen Petrie, the second 149 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: round pick from Baylor, and I'm only one Carrits. He 150 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: went to Baylor. We didn't get to see Derek Stingley. 151 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: They took it easy. Audie will see him in training 152 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: camp and a lot of guys like I think a 153 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: guy who's going to have the biggest breakout season on 154 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: the defense, and he kind of did last year is 155 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan Grenard if he's healthy, because he's gonna have improvement 156 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: with the players along alongside him. I look for him 157 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: to be a double digit sack guy if he's still 158 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: on the field. Of the linebackers, they got depth, The 159 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: coaches love Garrett Wallow going into his second season, and 160 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't like a linebacker runs a four to four 161 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: four like Christian Harris from Alabama. Yeah, that speed runs 162 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: in the Harris family. Just so you know, John, what 163 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: happened to you? Yeah? Exactly. I think they ostracized me 164 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: from the Harris family for that particular reason. John, you 165 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: mentioned John Grenard. He's a twenty twenty draft pick. Charlie Heck, 166 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: we've seen start probably fourteen fifteen times over the last 167 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: couple of years because of injuries. He stepped in here. 168 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: He's done a solid job. But the guy that was 169 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: drafted first for the Texans was a second rounder in 170 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: that draft, and that's Ross Blacklock. The Texans re signed 171 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: Malie Collins. They drafted Thomas Booker to play a position 172 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: very similar to Ross Blacklocks. How much pressure do you 173 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: think Ross has going into training camp to perform and 174 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: be that guy that Texans thought they were drafting at 175 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: number forty and twenty twenty. Every day that roses with 176 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: the franchise, he is reminded of the We are reminded 177 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: of the DeAndre Hopkins trade because they got Blacklock and 178 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: David Johnson, and David Johnson's gone looking for a job 179 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: and he didn't not do a good job here, and 180 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: Ross has not been a starter. He's part of the rotation. 181 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: And so some guys take a third year before they 182 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: realize their potential and they're what they're supposed to do. 183 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be that guy who comes in and place 184 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: tackle and gets an inside push. But to me, it's 185 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: kind of a maker break season for him because it's 186 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: depth that they have acquired up front. And when you're 187 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: playing a four three and you don't bless light, you've 188 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: got to have people can rush the passer. Now that's 189 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: not Roy Lopez. Roy Lopez is not a big pass rusher, 190 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: but when you bring those guys in for the sub packages, 191 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: they got to be able to contribute to the pass rush. 192 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: And if Blackhawk could get like five sacks, then that 193 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: would be a good season and people would go, Aha, 194 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: you know he's contributing. But you're right on defense there. 195 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: To me, I'm thinking real quick of veterans, there's not 196 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: a veteran player with more pressure on him than Ross 197 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: Blackhawk on that defense, John who will be the second 198 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: leading receiver on this team, assuming Brandon Cooks leads the way. 199 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: What are you thinking, well, Nico Collins. Nico Collins out there, 200 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: he's six to four, he looks like he's gained ten 201 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: to fifteen pounds of muscle. He's not going to get 202 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: muscled around as he did with the rookie. The fact 203 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: that he caught thirty passes after opting out of his 204 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: last year at Michigan. Think about how much last year 205 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: in the offseason program helped him. He worked after practice, 206 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: which I love it. Brandon Cooks always does that. A 207 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: lot of the receivers followed his lead and would stay 208 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: out there. So I think it'll be Collins, and I 209 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: think probably over the second half of the season. Once 210 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: John Metchi is a healthy and I think he could 211 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: be healthy for the start of the season, but he's 212 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: going to have to go through a learning experience as 213 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: a slot receiver in the NFL. I think you'll see 214 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: him become even better. And Revind Jordan my goodness, he's 215 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: going into this second year. He's more of a receiver 216 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: than a blocker. Davis Mills is going to have some 217 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: weapons at wide receiver, tied end, and running back. He 218 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: can throw the ball to John. We've talked maybe about 219 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: every single guy on this roster at some point throughout 220 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: this offseason, whether we've done it with you or Mark, 221 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: and I've talked about it on All Access, So it 222 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: may not. They answer to this question maybe a little 223 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: bit more difficult because you're like, well, I've been talking 224 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: about that guy. But is there a guy that you 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: look at and think, you know what, there's not enough 226 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: set about this guy. I think this guy's got an 227 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to make the roster, get some more playing time, 228 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: maybe off the beaten path that you've watched, that you've 229 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: looked at and thought, this guy we need to keep 230 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: our eyes on as we go through training camp. Do 231 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: you have one of those names in mind? I do. 232 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: I marked down guys here that I might want to mention, 233 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: and there are two or three. One of them is 234 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: m J. Stewart, to safety from Cleveland as a free agent. 235 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: I would look up and see him knocking down passes. 236 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: Another one is Jonathan Owens. Jonathan, you know he's pushing 237 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: for a starting job. You know he's ready to take 238 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: that next step. And if he and if he ever 239 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: steps up and becomes a productive player, smone Biles will 240 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: be known as his wife instead of him being known 241 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: as her husband when they get married. They're engaged. I 242 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: think they're getting married this offseason. And another one that 243 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: I paid close attention to here is Grayland Arnold the 244 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: corner and yes he's from Baylor, and I started watching 245 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: him because Spencer Tillman Spencer's watching him. Spencer's marking down 246 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: things course season analysts for Fox, and he looked over 247 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: me the other day and he said that thirty five, man, 248 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: he's knocking down some passes. Man, watch how thirty five 249 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: is covering in the red zone. And I'm thinking she's 250 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: another Baylor guy. I can't talk about him. Everybody's gonna 251 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: think it's because of Baylor. No, it came from an 252 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma guy, Spencer Tillman. There you go, Spencer Tillman from 253 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Oh You giving that Baylor players some love. That is 254 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: very nice. Indeed, well Petrie's gotten love from Lovey Smith, 255 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: and then you look at Garrett Wallow getting love from 256 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Nick Kasserio John the Texans brass. They're not shy about 257 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: talking about individual players, which hasn't happened around here a 258 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: lot now as specifically former coaches would say some things, 259 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: maybe gms as well. But these guys have brought up 260 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: some players unsolicited, and I think it's kind of refreshing 261 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: for the fans to hear their perspective on certain players. 262 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Gets people excited. The Texans, we all know they won 263 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: four games each of the last two years on the 264 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: way up, and you want to know who to sort 265 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: of zero in on as a media member and as 266 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: a fan. I think one of the reasons they do 267 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: that they're sending a message to the player for a 268 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: job well done, for what they've wanted done in the 269 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: off season. And I think there are other players like that. 270 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: You know, we're all big fans of davyer Thomas, and 271 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: I know Lovey Smith likes him a lot, and it's 272 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: his second season. I could see him taking that next step. 273 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: You know, we take for granted the greatest snapper in 274 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: NFL history, John Weeks, because he's been tremendous. I can't 275 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: wait to see Jerry Hughes just because I remember when 276 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: he played running back here and then he went to 277 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: TCU and he became a premier pass rusher from after 278 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: Indian Buffalo. And I'm warning who is going to be 279 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: this year's Camu Grugie to Hill who was with another 280 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: team and didn't do much. But when he gets into 281 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: this system and he's coached by these coaches, including special teams, 282 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry defensive coordinator Lovey Smith making those calls, Who's 283 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna be Camu Gruge Hill. There is somebody on the 284 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: roster who'll step up a veteran from another team and 285 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: we'll go. Aha. That guy is another find by neccesario 286 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: in the personnel department. Well, what's your prediction, John Harris, 287 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: give me a Comu Gruge Hill twenty twenty two. I 288 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: think John McClean just hit on one a little while ago. 289 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: M J. Stewart would fit that profile relatively perfectly. A 290 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: guy that did play in Cleveland, didn't start his entire time, 291 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: probably started played a little bit more than Kamu did 292 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: when he before he got to the Texans. But Kamu 293 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: got here and was the first thing we said, oh 294 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: he'll help on special teams, right, and then he led 295 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: the team in tackles, He led him in TfL's, He 296 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: was all over the place last year. MJ's gonna have 297 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: to he's gonna have to work through that John mentioned 298 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: at the safety position is it's loaded with guys that 299 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: go out there and make plays. So they're gonna have 300 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: to kind of sift through that and find those those 301 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: two particular guys. But I'm curious who who that possibly, 302 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: But I go I would go, m J. Stewart, what 303 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: about the two of y'all? What you say, what about 304 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: Obo a guy looking for an opportunity to rush in 305 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: a four man front after coming off the bench, and 306 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: they need pass rushers in the worst way. And maybe 307 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: he'll get a chance in passing situations. But he's a 308 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: have your veteran. And in the reason I said, oh bos, 309 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: because I don't have to pronounce the rest of his name, 310 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: I just thought, I just realized, who mind was? I mean, 311 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: M J. Stewart. I think he's gotten Wait wait, wait, 312 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: don't steal. Okay, I won't go. I'll go with Rashim 313 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: Green being it not exactly under the radar, but Green 314 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: I could turn into something really special in this defense 315 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: and on offense. I know he was here last year 316 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: and I keep talking about him, But don't sleep on 317 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Philip Dorset. People. That's why I asked you the second 318 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: leading receiver question, because I think Nico could still have 319 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: a good year, and somehow Dorset he erupts along with 320 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and we'll see what the definition of erupted 321 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: is in the context of what the twenty twenty two 322 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: Texans can do. But I think Dorset can really help 323 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: this squad. Let me tell you what about Rashie Green. 324 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: I got a couple of people that have worked with 325 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: the Seahawks for years and they changed their their front 326 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: and so he became expendable six and a half sacks 327 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: last year off the bench. They say he's an end, 328 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: and he played left end in place of John Grenard 329 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: in the off season program. But he can move inside 330 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: to tackle and they say he works. To tell off 331 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. They hated to let him go, 332 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: which you got to make tough decisions. You know, he's 333 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: six to four weighs two seventy nine and that's the 334 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: size of the tackle and a four man front when 335 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: you're rushing the passer, I look for him to boost 336 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: the pass rush. If he had six and a half here, 337 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: he would have been second to John Grenard, Mario Addison 338 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: and Jerry Years would have been right up there too. 339 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: Seeing how Casario and Smith do at defensive end, who 340 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: they keep that's going to be maybe the most competitive 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: positions because there's the sheer numbers, there's so many of them. Yes, 342 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: seventeen defensive lineman. Yeah, Rashing Green was the one that 343 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: popped into my head as John was talking that that's 344 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: definitely a guy, that's definitely a guy to watch and 345 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I think every team, no matter you run three to four, 346 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: in particular for three because it is inside outside, the 347 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: three four kind of all merges together. I think you 348 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: have to have a guy last year with the Marcus 349 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: Walker de Marcus Walker gave his team some good reps 350 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: last year and he was an inside outside sort of guy. 351 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Now Rashima is built way differently, but the same sort 352 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: of concept of this guy can bounce inside. I think 353 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: when you're only gonna have eight guys available on the 354 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: defensive line on game day, you gotta have somebody that 355 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: does go inside outside like that John. Two quarterbacks have 356 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: been in the news. They both were at Mini camp, 357 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: but they're sitting there waiting on big contracts. Who do 358 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: you think gets the big second contract first, Lamar Jackson 359 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: or Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray as an agent, Lamara Jackson doesn't, 360 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: and I think that Lamar Jackson wants the bidding to 361 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: start at two hundred and thirty one Megan guaranteed. You know, 362 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: how do you tell your quarterback who has been an 363 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: MVP and has accomplished more than Deshaun Watson. Yeah, he's 364 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: got two hundred and thirty million guaranteed, But we're not 365 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: giving it to you. You know, every general manager's going 366 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: to say, hey, that's an aullier, he can't go by that, 367 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: and agent's gonna say, yes, you can. So I'm gonna 368 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: say Murray because he has a legitimate agent. And I 369 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: and then Jackson boy, considering how much he was hurt 370 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: last year, say they offered him two hundred million guaranteed. 371 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: How could he turn that down. I don't know what 372 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: they've offered him, but when you're a quarterback and you 373 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: are exposed to injuries in so many different ways, and 374 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: you could get that kind of money guaranteed, and that's 375 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: not going to be the last contract he signs. Jackson's 376 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: like twenty five years old, and so I would I'm 377 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: gonna say Murray because he's not gonna be as expensive 378 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: because he hasn't done anything near what Lamar Jackson asked. 379 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: It's a great point. Murray has no case to say 380 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: he belongs in the same market as Mahomes, Jackson, even Watson. 381 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: You could say, so, yeah, there's that. I think the 382 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty million is fascinating what it does 383 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: to the market. General this week's Baker Mayfield update. I 384 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: don't think there is one, although I guess any rumors 385 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: of a possible Darnold for Baker Mayfield trade are apparently off. 386 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: But what are they ever on? I mean, was that 387 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: ever gonna happen? Anyway, somehow Carolina is going to find 388 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: a way to acquire a quarterback. You would think they 389 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: can't afford to go to the season like this. First 390 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: of all, I think it's absolutely preposterous that David Temper, 391 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the wealthiest owner in the NFL until Walton is officially 392 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: ordained by the Broncos, that he would not want to 393 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: pay Baker Mayfield's contract, that the deal breaker was he 394 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: had to pay too much. Eighteen million for him is 395 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: like tip money for us. And I don't understand is 396 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: that really the reason that's being held up? Have they 397 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: agreed on the compensation Mayfield and his two years healthy? 398 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: He was really good. Last year he was hurt. We 399 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: saw him get hurt blow out that left shoulder and 400 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: didn't play the rest of the year. What I do 401 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: not understand is why Seattle, with Geno Smith running first 402 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: team and Drew Lock second, has not acquired Mayfield going 403 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: into last year of his contract with a big chip 404 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: on his shoulder. General, all the Bears players that practice 405 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: are wearing number forty one today in honor of Brian Piccolo. 406 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Now I happen to love this because I saw Brian's song. 407 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: I was not really aware of what was happening as 408 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: a fan in that era because I was very young. 409 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: But what do you make of this? This sounds like 410 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: a great way to pay tribute to him. Brian Song 411 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: still my favorite sports movie. Nineteen seventy one ABC movie 412 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: The Week with James conn and Billy d Williams. I 413 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: still get terry eyed thinking about it. I think probably 414 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: nobody on that team as a clue he is, but 415 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: they will now. And of course it's one of those. 416 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: It was the first movie who had a famous person 417 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: an athlete die, and because it was so popular and 418 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: it was true, we've had so many of those through 419 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: the subsequent decades. But sometimes, when you guys have time, 420 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: I will tell you a story behind the scenes at 421 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame when I saw the real Gil 422 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: Sayers do something similar. Oh he died fifty two years 423 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: ago today, by the way, Piccolo did played by James Conn. Well, 424 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: you brought up Gale Sayers and that made me think 425 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: I was asked the question this week, John, I want 426 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: to hit you with this, Frank Or going to the 427 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I'm sure you get hit that a lot. 428 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: Obviously you were a Hall of Fame voter. We talked 429 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: about that a lot, and I always like to bounce 430 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: this off of you. Frank Or put up tremendous numbers 431 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: over his career, is gonna end up, you know, more 432 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: than likely top five and nearly every Russian category because 433 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: he's seeming we played forever. I ask a question about 434 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles, who was outstanding, and I think his overall 435 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: yards per rush in the NFL's five point four yards 436 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: per carry, I think that's NFL best. So he had 437 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: a shorter period of dominance like Jill Says did. Then 438 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: you have Frank Gore, who put up a lot of numbers. 439 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: How do you guys as the Hall of Fame committee, 440 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: and how do you as a Hall of Fame voter 441 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of sift through that the fact that Gore put 442 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: up massive numbers, but he did over a long stretch 443 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: of time. Charles not as many numbers, but he was 444 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: predominant for the six seven years that he played. When 445 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: I watched Jamal Charles in high school, ute and with 446 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, always thought he's a great breakaway runner, but 447 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: I never thought there goes a Hall of Famer. Now 448 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: I've changed my mind a lot when I see evidence 449 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: about what they meant to their team, what opponents thought 450 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: about him when he came to game plans and Frank 451 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: gore because of his longevity, And I think longevity can 452 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: be important, just like I don't think he should hold 453 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: it against a player with his short career. Royal Davis 454 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: is the greatest playoff running back in history and took 455 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: us forever to put him in there. And he wasn't 456 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: too shabby when he was healthy with the Broncos two 457 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: guards seasons MVPs and Charles was a tremendous breakaway back. 458 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: But I've got to see more than the average per carry. 459 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: I want to see what he did on third and one? 460 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: Did they go to him? How much? What was his percentage? 461 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: But I will listen to anybody who wants to make 462 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: a case for anyone. Well, you know who had what 463 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: ten more touchdowns than Jamal Charles, Arian Foster. Yeah, that 464 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: was the name I brought up in the argument, was 465 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: Arian Foster. So is Arian Foster's career a Gayl Sayers 466 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: type career. I can't say that Sayers was I mean, 467 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: Foster was great. I'm not taking anything away from Foster. 468 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: Sayers is an outlier in terms of the longevity versus man, 469 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: the explosiveness and massive production over a short period of time. 470 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: So there's that. And Gayl Sayers played in some of 471 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: the worst conditions you could laying in Chicago slop and 472 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: he is making quick cuts and he was. He was unbelievable. 473 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: One of the things one of the things I love 474 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: about the Pro Football of Fame, where I've been twenty 475 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: times or maybe fifty, is going in to the room 476 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: where they have the highlights and you can push the 477 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: button on the players and watch them over and over. 478 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: And I love watching Earl Campbell for power, and I 479 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: love watching Gale Sayers for the breakaway speed, especially in 480 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: the conditions in which he played at regularly feel almost 481 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: every game, John, What's going on with Sports Radio six 482 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: ten more shows? I'm on there with you guys, of 483 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: course every Thursday, and I'm on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Friday's 484 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: got a remote on Friday's Wolfies out Off to forty nine. 485 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: I love meeting people that come out to our remotes. 486 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: I did Tuesdays, we did Cormier's Kitchen when John Lopez, 487 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: Landry Locker, Finky Figg celebrated their one thousand shows. We 488 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: always want people to out and thank you guys for 489 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: having me very much. Mark, thanks again for your contribution 490 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: at dmprov and I'll look forward. I won't see you 491 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: at the OTAs or Mini camp, but I'll look forward 492 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: to talking to you next week. Thanks all right, thanks 493 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: very much. General, really delighted to be out there with 494 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: you last night. Coming up, we're gonna talk about running 495 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: back performances for the Houston Texans over the years and 496 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: what will constitute a good performance this year for some 497 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: of the individuals involved the ground game. It's got to 498 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: get better. We'll talk about it next on Texans Radio. 499 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: More Texans Radio is on the way. 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Together we're 505 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: helping make Hugh doing a better place to call home. 506 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: Jicksins Radio's back, giving a company timekeep be cool, but 507 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: keeping a company Thursday Evening program, Thanks for the general 508 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: for being on, Mark vandermir John Harris with you and Johnny, 509 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna play one gigantic Who's Better? Sort of a 510 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: version of that based on Texans And this is one 511 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: of the hits we like to play from time to time. 512 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: Texans thousand yard rushers? Oh man? Yes? And can first 513 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: of all, can you name them? Can you name the 514 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: five people who have rushed for one thousand? That's all 515 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: I got. Let me count them here, Okay, so in 516 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: no particular order. Yeah, the hardest one I would think 517 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: is Carlos Hide. I don't think people remember you did 518 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen. It's so recent though, that one's really 519 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: fresh for me. Arian yes, Dominic, Yes, Steve Slayton correct, 520 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: for a lot of people would forget about Steve Sleigh 521 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: Ride Slayton say, um and Ben Tate never had a 522 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: thousand Nope, close ninety two. Um, there's one more year 523 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: you're forgetting. Yeah, there's one. He had one one thousand 524 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: yards season. Here feels like he should have had more. 525 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: Yes in twenty sixteen, he ran for over a g 526 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: note for the Houston Texans. But Foster is the top 527 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: two performances in league history in rushing yards per season. 528 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Number three all time rushing yard performance belongs to Steve Slayton. 529 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Then it's Foster Foster. Then Dominic makes his first appearance 530 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: from two thousand and four eleven hundred and eighty eight yards. 531 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Dominic Williams formerly Dominic Davis, Lamar Miller after that with 532 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: one thousand and seventy three, Carlos Hide one thousand and seventy, 533 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: and then Dominic again one thousand and thirty one. After that, 534 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: Dominic is next with nine seventy six. Had three seasons. 535 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: One of them was close to a thousand and the 536 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: other two over one thousand. I'd just say three one 537 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: thousand yard seasons just to make it easy in my 538 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: memory when I'm summarizing Texans running backs careers, and then 539 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Lamar Tate. After Tate, the next guy up is Ron 540 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: Dane two seven correct seven hundred and seventy three yards. Oh. 541 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: By the way, So I'm talking with Gary Kubiak last night, 542 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: and I'm talking Ota offense, and I talked about what 543 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: I wrote regarding Texans quarterbacks out there right now that 544 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: I had a hunch that this might have been the 545 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: fewest starts combined among the group, and it wasn't even close. 546 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: This is actually one of the most starts combined or 547 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: up there anyway. And it was two thousand and seven 548 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: with Shob and Rosenfell's having two starts apiece. And he 549 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: won't mind me saying this, he said, I said, you 550 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: had three other quarterbacks in camp in May and June, 551 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, it was Liner there. Then I'm like, no, 552 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Liner was two thousand and nine. I said, who are you? 553 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: He said, he goes, You remember all that stuff and beer? 554 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: You remember all that? You know? I think for coaches 555 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: very often it's just so in the moment, yeah, and 556 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: it's so hyper focused, and then you know, certain things 557 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: become a blur. He's coached so much in his life. 558 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: Think about all the running backs quarterbacks that Gary Kubiak 559 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: has dealt with over the coaches care and look, when 560 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: you've coached. It's funny because I remember being a not 561 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: only a younger coach, just a younger person. And I remember, 562 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: especially teaching wise, I really prided myself on knowing every 563 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: single one of my students' names by the time they 564 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: left class that first day. By the way, Liner was 565 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: later than two thousand and nine, but I corrected myself 566 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, And I always prided myself on that. And 567 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: then as I got older, I'm like I would be 568 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: out and about somebody. Hey, coach Haris, so I'm like, hey, 569 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: you dang it it. But you also have to have 570 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: I also feel like, for me just jogging memory on things, 571 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: I have to have some moment where I remember, oh, yeah, 572 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: that guy did this and this particular game and oh 573 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: I remember that game was in two thousand and five. 574 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: I can do that. So I think if you would 575 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: have said, yeah, Gary, you don't remember Matt Lyner getting 576 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: hurt in the Jacksonville game, he probably would have gone, 577 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that was twenty eleven. Yeah exactly. Oh no, 578 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure he could recount everything from twenty eleven that happened. 579 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: It was just that when I was talking about offseason 580 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: practice and things like that. Here's another one. I don't 581 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: know if you've ever heard Sean McVeigh does this and 582 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley plays and situations, you can give him the 583 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: situation of a game, any game, Yeah, second and twelve. 584 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: This particularly, he can tell you what play called. He 585 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: can tell you the result of the play. They'vey's done that. 586 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: They made that a part of the Lincoln Riley radio show. 587 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: At Oklahoma. Teddy Layman would give him a play when 588 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: he was an offensive coordinator at Oklahoma or head coach 589 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: and say, here's the situation twenty eighteen. You're playing Texas 590 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: at the Cotton Bowl. It's third quarter, eight minutes left. 591 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: You got a first and ten on the minus thirty five? 592 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: What did you? And he can he can recall it. 593 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, that's I mean, I can remember 594 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: certain things in certain plays. I can remember, and I 595 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: can remember what I called it a lot. I remember 596 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of those, And then my wife would get 597 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: mad at me, like how did you forget to take 598 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: out the trash? But you can remember all that. You 599 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: just your brain works in different ways. I'm good at 600 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: recalling all right in week four of two thousand and eight, 601 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: this happened. I can't do every week now, probably, but 602 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: I can get real close and I can definitely remember 603 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: the flow of a season and particular games all over 604 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean every Texans game you asked me what happened 605 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: playing the Jags on the road in two thousand and five, 606 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: And I can tell you what happened, you know. I 607 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: don't know if I can name the score, but I 608 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: can tell you the flow, obviously win or lose. I 609 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: can tell you the flow, and maybe a big moment 610 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: or two in the game. Yeah. I mean, that's so 611 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: coaches are unique in that way, like there's some things 612 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: they will just absolutely remember. But I loved hearing that 613 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: Gary was, you know, toward the house down last night. 614 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: That's that's that's really cool. And again I wasn't surprised 615 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: at all. I anticipated that, so I felt and I 616 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: just surprised with mcclean's answer. I was surprised with mcclean's answer. 617 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: I was surprised with Sean Pendergast not knowing. But I 618 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: don't know if those guys Sean and Seth, well, Seth 619 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: had him in meetings right, And I don't know if 620 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, cutting it up in the meetings. 621 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: But but I anybody who's seen him speak at an 622 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: event before should have known that he was going to 623 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: be that good. Yeah, you know, I And so I 624 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: was not surprised at all anyway, and made answer your question. Okay, 625 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: question you said, of those thousand yard rushers, Slayton is 626 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: the one you forget because he only did it for 627 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: for a year, I think, and Carlos was recent, so 628 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: I think people more people remember it was the best 629 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: non aryan back. That sounds bad the way I phrased 630 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: a non arian foster back. I won't say dominant because 631 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see make up close. 632 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: I was a massive fan of Slayton in that year. 633 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: We actually did radio with him that year. In two 634 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, we did radio with him that year 635 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: and he I'll never forget. It was after the Browns game. 636 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: Browns game was late in the year. No wonder why 637 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: you guys never went to a Kubiak speaking event because 638 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: you were on the air. We were on the air. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 639 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: And so Johnny Grant would bring back the sound and 640 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: we would do kind of an audio jukebox where I 641 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: got that idea because he would bring back the sound, 642 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: he would play it, and then we would we would 643 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: opine on what he was saying in those spots. Well, 644 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: Steve would come by and we did it. It was 645 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: a rotation of three, and so he came by I 646 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: think it was after the Browns game, and he walked 647 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: in and he looked like absolute hades. He just like, 648 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: whoa are you okay? He's like, I haven't gotten out 649 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: of bed all day. It was just the pounding of 650 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: that season and going through all that. So when he 651 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: got hurt the next year, I was not totally surprised 652 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: because he had been so beat up the year before, 653 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: so he's trying to bulk up and all that. But man, 654 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: I felt so bad for him that he had, you know, 655 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: had that such great year and oh the Money Night game, 656 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: Oh that Money Night game against um uh Jacksonville. He 657 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: was so good that night. He was just so good 658 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: down the stretch and you're like, this is the speed 659 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: element this team really really needs. This team needs this 660 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: explosive speed. And ironically the guy ends up being the 661 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: best back of you know, the organization's history was the 662 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: guy that was probably four six four six. Guy Aaron 663 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: was never overly fast, but had every football attribute you wanted. 664 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: Football speed Johnny, he played four six right. He was 665 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: at it when he broke through. His cutting ability, just 666 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: the vision, the ability to see the hole and make 667 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: the most of it. It was incredible twenty ten and 668 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: he was banged up a little bit through this year, 669 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: but ten through twenty fourteen. And that's the thing with 670 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: running backs. I think the romanticism in the city of 671 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: Houston Earl Campbell. We all ear Earl's our guy. But 672 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: how many years was Earl dominant in the city. In 673 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: the city of Houston starting in seventy eight and going 674 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: through what eighty two? Five years? Oh yeah, it's not 675 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: a long period of time. And that's the hard thing 676 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: and the difficult thing with running backs is it's just 677 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: a blip. You look up and it's over, it's done. 678 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: And the Cowboys might be going through that with Zeke 679 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: right now. It feels like Zeke just got there and 680 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: he might be on the he might be on whole 681 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen. Right now, it's four seasons in Houston 682 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: that Earl was truly Earl. Well, make that five, right, 683 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: because he dipped in eighty two. I guess he got 684 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's that's the nine game season. He played 685 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: every game. That was the strike season, so he played 686 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: every game that season. I know Earl was dominant. Four 687 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: let's see four plus two. More so six seasons of 688 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: Earl be an Earl. Now a couple of those seasons 689 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: he dipped below four yards per carry in eighty one 690 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: and then in eighty two. So all right, whatever. So 691 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: I mean if you think about you think about four 692 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: just outstanding seasons. Yeah, twenty eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. 693 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, who was drafted in twenty eighteen. I mean, 694 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: we don't have anybody anymore. But you know, that's how 695 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: long Justin Reid was here. And it feels like Justin 696 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: came in and was out. It was in a blink. 697 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: Well that was Earl. But we have this romantic idea 698 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: about Earl. So it's also what you accomplished. True, those 699 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: games in the postseason take on a greater magnitude and 700 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: just just a build up between a divisional win and 701 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: into the AFC Championship game, all the emotions involved that 702 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: lasts so long in your memory, I believe, especially for 703 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: those guys. They were a tremendous team. And you know 704 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: last night I was a yeah, obviously yea Evin me 705 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: and Joe Green was there. Pastorini had a great line. 706 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: Somebody heckled from the audience. It wasn't a bad one, 707 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: but it was a little remark and Pastorini said, hey, 708 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: me and Joe Green's over there and now he's my friend, 709 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: and he talked about me, Joe Green breaking his ribs. 710 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: It was awesome. I mean, I was listening whose that 711 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: listening is at the end of the show yesterday and Clint, 712 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: I think Clint was at the show and shows back 713 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: at studio and so Clint just kind of talking about 714 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: who was out there, and he goes, yeah, I mean 715 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: Joe Green just walked in and I was, oh, no, 716 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: I had Sills, Oh my god, Wade Phillips, all the 717 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: guys I just mentioned, Elvin, doctor Doom, they were all there. 718 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: Vernon Perry was there. Uh, I those guys, It's understandable, 719 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: they're they're Houston Oilers. Yeah, but me and Joe, I 720 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: mean just a Steeler no, and it's that's pretty much great. 721 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: Larry Derker was there also. I'm gonna miss people all right. 722 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: Next top, we'll go around the league maybe a little 723 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: bit more this kind of conversation. Because this is fond 724 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. Stay tuned for more on 725 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and the NFL on Texans All Access. 726 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: As of March twenty twenty two. Hunday has won more 727 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: total IIHS Top Safety Awards than any other brand over 728 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: the past eight years with optional front crash prevention and 729 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: specific headlights. 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Final segments short one because we've been 739 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: rambling all day here on Texans Radio. Mark vanderber John 740 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: Harris with you talking about the McClain event last night, 741 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: talking about Texans running backs we never related to this year, 742 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's really up for grabs here, Johnny. 743 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: You could have a Marlon mack emerge and regain his form. 744 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: You could have who knows, maybe Royce Freeman erupts somehow. 745 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: He looked really good as a rookie. Yeah, obviously everyone's 746 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: talking about Damian Pierce. Jed Anderson could be really interesting. 747 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: You know, you never know Daria Gunbuale. I don't look 748 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: at him as a thousand yard potential rusher, but you'd 749 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: never know. He's a special team's demon and he's gonna 750 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: help you out in the ground attack. And a lot 751 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: of it has to do with the big guys up front. 752 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: If they're opening holes, then a lot of guys can 753 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: run through them and get some yards. And what's the 754 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: one thing that you always say when we start talking 755 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: about positional analysis, injuries. Sometimes injuries solve the problem. Yeah, 756 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: and you don't want that to be the case, but 757 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: that's the reality, especially at that particular position, when you 758 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: start banging each other with the pads, come training camp, 759 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: then you get into preseason games. I just feel better 760 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: about the depth there. There have been years where okay, 761 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: the top two guys we know are are fine. Who 762 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: they actually gonna be number three? Who's gonna be number four? 763 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: There are a couple of guys vying for it. But 764 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I look at those years and think, Okay, 765 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: well I feel great because we got one and two. 766 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: But man, what's something What if something happens to one 767 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: of those guys. I look at this group and go 768 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: one through six. I don't even know how he would 769 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: rank them right now if I was forced to do that. 770 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: I feel like they've all got something a little different 771 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: they bring to the party. And I can't remember his 772 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: nick or love you. You You said this when asked about 773 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: that running back group, that every single day during the 774 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,959 Speaker 1: off season, there has been one of those guys making 775 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: a play. Like every every one of those guys has 776 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: made a play and made them kind of you know, 777 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: stand out your staff throughout this offseason, and that's exactly 778 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: what you want. And that's been good. My boy, dp's 779 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 1: got hang on the football though. Oh well, look those 780 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: guys are all going after it and this is the 781 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: time of year you want to learn that. Learn those 782 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: hard lessons right now. Now learn it now, get to camp, 783 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: get in the pads, and play clean. And that's what 784 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: you want to see here that okay OTAs or OTA's 785 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: for a reason. You know, you're getting timing down, You're 786 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: getting to know how to operate in this league. I'll 787 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: give you a position that I'm pretty encouraged with the 788 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: depth of poorly phrased sentence, but that's what it is. 789 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: It's not ocean deep. But I like the backup quarterback. 790 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: I like Kyle Allen. Yeah, I think Kyle Allen as 791 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: a guy who you might need in a spot or 792 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: two or maybe longer. Let's hope not. But Kyle Allen 793 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: has been ripping some throws and you know, he's out 794 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: there with the twos for the most part. So you're 795 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: looking at a player is not getting to work a 796 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: lot with Brandon Cooks and Nico and Brevin Jordan and 797 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 1: people like that. I know they mix up a little 798 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: bit the levels and you know, we got into it 799 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: with Lovey about the depth chart and everything. I like 800 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: that they have him. I think it's a solid player 801 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: to have at that position for that role. Kyle Allen 802 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 1: has all the physical traits you're looking for. I mean, 803 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: there was never an issue with that as he was 804 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: in college at A and M University Houston. I hate 805 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: the fact that he went to A and AM to 806 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: start with, because he got stuck in at Kyler Murray 807 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Murray drama with Kevin Sumlin and all that, and 808 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: so Alan decides to transfer the University of Houston he's 809 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: got the he's got the traits, he's got the arm strength, 810 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: he's won. How about how about this? Did you know 811 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen actually has more wins as a starting quarterback 812 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: at Energy Stadium than Davis Mills. Wait, because Mills doesn't 813 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: have too many bills has the Chargers. Yeah, and then 814 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: and Kyle Allen has the Texas in twenty nineteen. Yeah. 815 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: And other win was at Jacksonville as an Aggie in 816 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. They beat Arizona State. Yes, technicality, I guess 817 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: Stanford never played here. All right, that's gonna do it 818 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: for the show tonight. We've got another big one for 819 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: you tomorrow as we close out the week. Go to 820 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: the app, the Texans App for all the videos, articles, information, 821 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: ticket information on your Houston Texans. 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