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Speaker 1: at us on group en mass and they will boot

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Speaker 1: us out of wherever we are, or they'll haul ass

429
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: and they'll tell anything that's not registered. They'll grab, you know,

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00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: which is something I have a hard time wrapping my

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00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: head around us. The government pays these people to come

432
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: in and take what little is left of somebody who

433
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: has nothing to begin with and just completely destitute, and

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00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: people that aren't living on the street as if they

435
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: have money just burned. The people on the street have

436
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: so very little to begin with, and these childe enforcement

437
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: people are just itching to take anything they have away,

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00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: and then the police roused him to try to put

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00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: them in jail. This virus thing has slowed their role

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00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: quite a bit, so they really can't come out us

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00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: as hard as heavy as a light gami because they

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00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: are restricted from putting us in jail, and their populations

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00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: are way outstanding and growing people, especially like in Los Angeles,

444
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: so many unhoused people at the parks and the cars

445
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: on the streets. It's just like you can't you can't

446
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: keep you can't jail everybody because it's just like people

447
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: are coming unhoused by the day. I bought that black

448
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: truck in front of us and has a camther jail,

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00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: and I rack on it and I was sleeping under

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00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: the cafter shell sharing space with my welder. Okay, so

451
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: that's and then my friend gave you this place and

452
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: I moved into. But I have so dearly missed my woman.

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00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I can imagine we were retired and I had built

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00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: our house around her. The gardens were impeccable, the house

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00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: was outstanding. We had a half inch marble six things

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00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: marble Italian tyle. This is a dual wide mobile home. Okay,

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00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean we had a Magellan refrigerator. The retail I

458
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: met things nine nine hundred dollars. I didn't have a

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00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: problem with that, and all of a sudden I had nothing.

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00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: My stepson's wiped out my shed of seventy five thousand

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00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: dollars for them with working tools. They got rid of

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00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: her car. I'm glad my buddy grabbed my truck, although

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00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: he thrashed her while I was in jail. He had it,

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00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: and I don't understand how somebody's son could do that too.

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00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: But all in all, the introduction of homelessness into your life.

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: I've always worked hard and had everything. I've had my Harley,

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00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: my truck, my car, my house, all the amenities of everything.

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00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: I've always had that, and all of a sudden I'm

469
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: on the street with a broken truck. They my grandson's

470
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: dropped me off at pick apart with the truck that

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00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: didn't run and just left me there. And that was

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00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: my first introduction to what homelessness real homelessness. What was

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00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: your first night? Like, what did you do? Wrapped up

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00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: in some blankets and rolled up on the bed of

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00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: the truck and went to sleep. So when the next

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00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: when you woke up, did you figure out how you

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00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: was going to like go to the bathroom, shower, things

478
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: like that? What was those kind of steps? Like I

479
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: still don't have a clue. I'm still so this has

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00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: no facilities in it whatsoever. So in that regard, I'm

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00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: the same as the guys sleeping out here in a

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00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: chant or under the sleeping bag. You do what you

483
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: gotta do, and you try to make allowances. You try to,

484
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, maintain dignity and honor, and if you try

485
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: you can. Are you you mentioned like the VA Are

486
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: you a veteran? Yes? I am? What did you serve?

487
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: I served in Vietnam? Thank you for your service? And

488
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: are they trying to help you get you your own

489
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: stable place or what they they offers of housing and help?

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00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: But so far everything they've offered has been group of

491
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: dorm or you know, it's been something that I'm sorry,

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00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: I just can't live like that because you're used to

493
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: or is it frightening because of COVID or is that

494
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: you can't be around group independent soul? Okay, And my

495
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: little lady was the only person in my life that

496
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: really mattered to me. And since I've been become homeless,

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00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: you find that there are a very few good people

498
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: out here, the ones that you do find kind a

499
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: hold on it. Yes, absolutely, this fella's a couple of

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00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: mother homes up. He's a friend of mine and it

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00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: has been We've been friends for almost fifty years. Oh really, Wow,

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00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: he's in a motor home. He lost his house. I'm

503
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: sorry to hear that. You know, it's so many stories

504
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: that I can would take forever, but I'm going to

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00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: get as many of the story as I possibly can

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00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: and come back and see how you guys are. They

507
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: know on each other for the last fifty years, back

508
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: and forth, materials and tools and know how and this

509
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: that and the other. We all have our specialties, but

510
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: there's a few others are much more high they trained

511
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: than other ones, and we have the better aspect of it.

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00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Because anybody that has problems with your vehicles the houses

513
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: and listens, and that is they come to us right

514
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: off the top. They know we do things and they

515
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: come to us and we generally get things fixed to

516
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: remove it or whatever mechanically that man can make air

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00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: run that maigs sense. Thank you again, mister Hillbilly. I

518
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: thank you for your time and your graciousness of inviting

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00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: me into your home. One of the things I always

520
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: always like to talk about is like the journalists that

521
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: don't understand that we are in your home and we

522
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: act to act like guests, and it's very important that

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00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: we don't take that for granted. And I tried to

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00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: also educate other people like even though we were un housed,

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: we require the same dignity that we would if you

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: had a house or coming to your home. This is

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00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: a CEO Henderson from Weedy and House. I thank you

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00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: all for listening, and may we again meet in the

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00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: light of understanding. This is a CEO Henderson with the

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Speaker 1: Unhoused News our first story. City Council Member Chris Rodriguez

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00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: is asking for more enforcement and criminalization on the unhoused

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00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: community in Oceanside, California, using vouchers as a pretext to

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00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: provide the police a way to cite unhoused people who,

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00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: in his eyes, are uncooperative or service resistant. The unhoused

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00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: person has a choice between taking the voucher or getting

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00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: a citation, or being arrested, rested, and another story. In

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00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: ocean Side, the brushfire reignites blame on the unhoused community.

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00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: As a mayor, Peter White blame the unhoused community. He

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00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: also states that his hands is frustrated that there is

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00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: no single solution and most of the solutions are not

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00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: going to be popular. He pretends that probably criminalization is

542
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: going to be or a major sweep is going to happen.

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00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: If you're in house and you want help, we have

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00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: programs that will help. In activist states, the lack of

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00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: sufficient funding and local mental health resources leaves them in

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00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: a precarious situation. Currently, ocean Side uses three million dollars

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00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: per year on the un housed community. In San Luis,

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00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Abisbo Parks Recreation Director Greg avi Quian says the city

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00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: will enforce a ban on tents in the park their

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00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: uses as a code to justify as well as to

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00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: displace the unhoused community. There has been more aggressive sweeps

552
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: in San Luis. A Bisbo and they are using this

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00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: as a way to displace and find ways to criminalize

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00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: and arrest them as well. Also in Sandul's Abysso, they

555
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: held a visual for the unhoused community to have died.

556
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: One died of COVID nineteen. The others causes of death

557
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: includes cancer, anaphylactic shock, unknown sickness, and getting hit by cars.

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00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: One of the prominent members of the community who was

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00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: a dishwasher that was an unhoused gentleman that didn't have

560
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: enough funds to support himself in housing but still was

561
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: in house and was employed. Gave back to the town

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00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: house community by handing out meals and also as a

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00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: dishwasher for three years. Other people that had passed away

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00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: at on House is Carlina who died of cancer, Mississippi

565
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: who died from a fatal fall, Joe who died of cancer,

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00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Christine from substance overdose, Jessica anaphylactic shock, Mary unholn illness, Bongo,

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00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: unknown illness, John attempting to cross Highway one on one

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00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: at night and Alstier attempted to cross Highway one on

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: one at night in Los Angeles. It's been fifty days

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00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: that they have been offered full reinforced from FEMA. They

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00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: are also refusing to seize hotels. Also in Los Angeles,

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00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: the Airtail Hotel offers Project room Key aka Dethtail is

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00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: closing and throwing residents back on the street. To date,

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00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: there have been at least eleven depths in Project Airtail.

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00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: On Monday is the first launch by Services not Sweeps,

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00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: a pilot program that will allow unhoused people to be

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00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: part of the solution and help clean up the neighborhood

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: that they and the communities they inhabit. This order this

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00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: motion was supported by council members Nathia Rahman and council

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00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: Member Mike Bonni. However, it's is important to note that

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00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: this suggestion in this pilot program is Services not Sweeps.

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00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: Brainschild the Willows, a bridge home in Kenoga Park, is

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00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: known as a bridge to harassment and the placing the

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00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: in house community that are not into the bridge home.

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00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: Council Member Bob Bloomingfield is the progenitor of this harassment

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00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: by creating special enforcement zones. To protest this kind of

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00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: conversation or this kind of action, please call Bob Bloomingfield's

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Speaker 1: office at two one three four seven three seven zero

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Speaker 1: zero three, And this is on House News. This is

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00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: Ceo Henderson from Weedian House. I'm here in Oceanside, California

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00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: doing my exploratory interviewing skills as well as investigating how

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00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: we and House are treated here in Oceanside and in

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00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: our studios. Today is a wonderful, kind hearted person by

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00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: the name of Patricia. So let's say welcome her to

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00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: our show and they get her a little story. Hello Patricia, Hello, Oh,

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00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: I messed up your thing. I pobliz right, So how

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00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: long have you been out on the streets? Seven years? Now,

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00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm out on the streets in eight years, so you

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00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: beat me. I almost get there. How did you end

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00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: up on the streets? Well, I lost my job and

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00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: then my mom she moved away and sorry to hear that.

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00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: Then am I getting on the street. Then my identity

603
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: gets stolen, someone steals my wallet. It's got my birth certificate,

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00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: social Security card, and my ID. Oh my goodness. So

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00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: and it's from my own personal experience. I'm from Chicago

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00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: and the COVID nineteen has made it very difficult for

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00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: me to get my birth certificate. The reason why if

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00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: nobody's in the office, I mean, even if you do

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00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: have money, so, but Los Angeles, in order for me

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00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: to get my Social Security card, I got to have

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00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: two forms of legal identification. And the rules in LA

612
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: doesn't apply to the rules of Chicago. They don't care

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00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: what it is that they are going to follow their

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00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: own protocols. So I can't get my Social because of

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00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: that very reason, which also inhibits me from getting the

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00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: housing that I need, because of the rules that are

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00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: already in place. Are you in that facing that same situation? Yes,

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00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: I am, so. How is it? What was I would

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Speaker 1: have to ask this. I always ask this first question,

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00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: What is it like the first time that you was

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00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: on the street? What would what did you fear and

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00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: feel at that time? Oh my gosh, I have to

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00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: take myself back all the mirrors. Oh my gosh. I

624
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: was scared. I was like a I was like a

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00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: lost puppy. How did you? How did you cope with it?

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00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: For me? I walked on that. Yes, that is pretty

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00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: much what I did too, you know. And the next

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00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: night I was so tired. I was trying to find

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Speaker 1: a place to do it, but I heard so many

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00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: horrorful stories and then two and I was trying to

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Speaker 1: face the reality that this can't possibly be happening. So

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00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: the next night, I guess what I did? What was that?

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00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: I got on a bus on the I could walk

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Speaker 1: any work, and like, dude, I'm freaking tired. I gotta

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Speaker 1: find a place to just rest. And then guess what.

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Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people that would on the

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Speaker 1: street live sleeping on a bus, particularly in LA it's

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Speaker 1: a bus that runs all night. What was what? What

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Speaker 1: was that like for here? Well, me, I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: didn't sleep on the bus. It was more the sprinter. Yes,

641
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: So I would I would stay up all night. I

642
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: just walk around, you know, and I would try to

643
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: find a corner somewhere, you know, in the light, because

644
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 1: I say, it's stay in the light. So I would

645
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: over the corner and I would just shiver, you know,

646
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: as long as I could, and I couldn't take no more.

647
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: I would look at the time. Once I hit three o'clock,

648
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: I took my butt right over there to the spinner.

649
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: It was a sprinter. The spinner is kind of like

650
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: a train and it goes from here to Escondido. Oh

651
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: so yeah, there are some people that do that too,

652
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: you know here in Los Angeles where we're based out

653
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: of I started to stay at for I did at

654
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: some time, like Santa Monica and Santa Manka appears like this,

655
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: but people don't tell you like you can freeze your

656
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: butt off because at night it gets fricking cold all

657
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: that wind that rain and not on the wind on

658
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: rain or dot act bring up the rain. So how

659
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: do you survive when it rains out here? You trying

660
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: to seek shelter the way you can a lot of people,

661
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the homeless people will get together and

662
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: if they have money, and they'll all pitch them together

663
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: and get a hotel room. Oh that's smart. Yeah, and

664
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: they'll just shock up in the hotel room, you know,

665
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: until if it beneficial, like you guys get to use

666
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: your shower, get your TV on, and things like that.

667
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: So I think that's an excellent idea too. So how

668
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: long do you usually last until the money runs out?

669
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Pretty much? I understand do they have out here because

670
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: we have in Los Angeles like project room key? Do

671
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: they have project room key out here? I'm not for

672
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: sure about project room key? Well, well, because they may

673
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: not have it here in Los Angeles we got the

674
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: high cases of COVID nineteen and one of the issues

675
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: is that they didn't want to use the hospitals where

676
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: it filled up with unhoused people. And so what they

677
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: suggested and what with activists suggested down there is to

678
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: there's a lot of abandons in LA It's a lot

679
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: of abandoned buildings, there are a lot of abandoned hotels.

680
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: They are not at full capacity in lack here, and

681
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: they could put the unhoused in the hotels and they

682
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: can feed them and take care of them until they

683
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: get them to their housing situation straight. But unfortunately Nimbi's

684
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: which is called not in my backyard, they resist that.

685
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: They hate that. They feel like it's free stuff and

686
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: they feel like they shouldn't be allowed the same dignities

687
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: that house people get. Do they have any project room

688
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: key out here like that? Not that, not that I

689
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: know of from my experiences or anything. I'm sure they

690
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: do somewhere. I know Interfaith they do a lot for people.

691
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: And I had to speak to shelter one time, but

692
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: I had to go to San Diego. It is Rachel's

693
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: Women Center. Oh, you know, there's some interesting experiences. A

694
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: lot of people don't like shelters because of one it's

695
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost like prison. And two it's like

696
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: it restricts you. It restricts your movements. Like for example,

697
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: imagine you have been having your own totament. You have

698
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: like a project room key a six o'clock curfew. Who

699
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: the heck wants to go and go to a curfew?

700
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Because they're grown adults and we're not children, So why

701
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: should we have someone dictate like we're in prison and

702
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: we're free. You know, I don't want to volunteer go

703
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: to prison if I don't have to. You know, I

704
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: break a laws, So why in the world would I

705
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: want to be going into a program? And when you

706
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: don't want to go, they say you're service resistant, you know,

707
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: But I'd be saying people that are saying that they

708
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: don't have the balls to do these to run these programs,

709
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: get into these programs themselves to see how it is.

710
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: They are always the cowards that run around sitting around

711
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: pontificating about these kind of these these kind of nebulous

712
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of claims. So what is like, what would be

713
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: the best way if we could help you? Uh? Because

714
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: I since you know, you're a kind hard person and

715
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: I know that this is not the life that you

716
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: want to leave. So what would be what what gives

717
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: you a good track? Well, I was told here that

718
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: last week I think was which I'm I'm just now

719
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: getting around to being able to do so. But I

720
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: was told that if if you are having trouble getting

721
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: your ID or your birth certificate, that if you know

722
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: at least two people who have an ID that can

723
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: verify you know, to say yes, this person is who

724
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: they say you are, then the pretty what they call

725
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: it anyway, a notary public republic. The notary public will

726
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: notarize a paper stating yes, this person had verified that

727
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: they are you know who they say they are, and

728
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: they can take that with ten dollars and go to

729
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: the d m B or the birth records and they

730
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: can get So this is what will help you jump start,

731
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: is the organizations like Interfacement and willing to do that

732
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: for you. Yes, oh that's wonderful. That's I'm so happy

733
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: to hear that, because everyone needs to be in a

734
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: place where because it's about to rain the next few

735
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: days and actually next week as well, so no one

736
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: wants it. I don't want anyone out here suffering like this.

737
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: And I stayed out in the rain in Los Angeles,

738
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: it is very very hard to stay dry and warm

739
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: and a fricking and you know, especially it's like where

740
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: it rained practically two weeks all day and all night,

741
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: it was like, and it's very difficult to sleep because

742
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: once you get a little quick sleep, then it's like

743
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: another and then you've got to make sure your stuff

744
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: ain't wet. Then you got your cold, and then you know,

745
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to smell, but you know, how can

746
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: you keep your stuff close clean? Yeah? Exactly. It was hard, man,

747
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: because they got like California, Los Angeles is very very

748
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: aggressive against people trying to find a nook a cranny.

749
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: They'll call the police on you for looking crazy. So

750
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, so that's that's a real sad reality, have you, guys,

751
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 1: because I've seen police around, and I see them around

752
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: some of the areas out of the house. Are are

753
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: are there any the police bothered you, guys, or talk

754
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: to you or try to tell you you can't stay

755
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: some places. But focus on all a lot of it,

756
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, you end

757
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: up staying. They like their tickets. I ain't nobody want

758
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: accord anymore. Just collect the ticket. Now they got a

759
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Christmas tree that we put the tickets on together. Bub

760
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: So they give you guys tickets, what I mean, how

761
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: do you expect you to pay it? If you you know,

762
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. So it goes on

763
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: the Christmas tree, like and when you sign it, you

764
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: signed tree. So you put it on a Christmas tree

765
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: because that's there's nothing else they can do about it.

766
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: Don't hum it. So that's man, that's horrible. Wats to

767
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: waste the time and taxpayers money They could have spend

768
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: all that time trying to give you guys places to stay. So,

769
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: uh have you been facing these as well? Yes? I have. Yeah,

770
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. So, uh, some of that

771
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: I do because I know there's like and I see

772
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: the r v's over there. Do the city? Did your

773
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: neighbors do they get upset when they see you guys around.

774
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm no, not necessarily. They kind of got used to

775
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: it and we just do our own thing. You know,

776
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: we don't bother them. They don't you know, go near

777
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: their vehicles or touching anything or you know, throwing a

778
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: clothes and stuff around, and you know, we just we

779
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of keep our distan you know when and just

780
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: keep our area clean. And she say, okay, well man,

781
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: this is like very interesting because I've been trying to

782
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: compare and contrast how it looks here. And I noticed

783
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: another thing that at least they do that La they

784
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: would not do, is they don't like then house on

785
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: the beach, they've just ran. If you see you guys

786
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: on the beach, they're running out to run you out.

787
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: They're resting people and things like that. So I don't

788
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: see that kind of thing going on here. So it's

789
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: a little bit did the lookout to people know what

790
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: that going on? What's going on going on? All the

791
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: people that would be out here don't need to come

792
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: down here with peple something. Some not all would be

793
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: about the majority proteople out here, knay, they don't want

794
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: they want to come down here by the late tonight

795
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, okay that's smart. So they don't want

796
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: to cause attention to themselves. Okay, okay, yeah, perfect makes

797
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. You know, I was I was

798
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: smart because I too, I knew when I first when

799
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: I was staying in the beach, I would her up

800
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: and leave so they wouldn't be able to be able

801
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: to pinpoint me because you know, you got the neighbors

802
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: that taking pictures and running up on you all that crazy.

803
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: They are just men. They're not like what you think

804
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: they are. Really wow, I was you know, you guys

805
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: are giving me an education here because I know La,

806
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: so I can't say I know it well about ocean side.

807
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you guys giving me the uh

808
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: the four one one on what's going on? What would

809
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: you think would be helpful to you at the ocean side,

810
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: how they could help all of us in this kind

811
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: of predicament. What would they need to do drawing bad things?

812
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: M hmm, Well, I they have a number two one

813
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: one that you could call and three one one to

814
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: call if they see encampments here in Los Angeles. So

815
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: that's how that's how they were dealing with the situation.

816
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: That's right. But there's no there's no numbers for us

817
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: when they bother us. But you know that's another and

818
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: that's that's what city doesn't want to talk about, that

819
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: they align and and support those kind of groups. Right

820
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: anytime when the homeless people have some kind of situation,

821
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: like if it's gonna storm for like four or five days.

822
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: People will request them to call two and one and

823
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: and tell them that you know, you don't have shelter

824
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: or anything like that, and they will pay for your

825
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: room to say it. That's what that will At least

826
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: that's the creative way. But they could do that a

827
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: little more and longer instead of it hassen to rain.

828
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: They could a lot because most people don't want to

829
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: be sitting out here freezing and and and and flooding

830
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: themselves or drowning, dying of hypothermia, and there's there's other

831
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: situations that that could possibly take place where you know,

832
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: you can get food and they have pantries, if you

833
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: have unique clothes or shoes, transportation, any kind of medical

834
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: conditions and stuff. They give you all the information that

835
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: you need throughout that. Oh man, that's wonderful. Again, you've

836
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: juedicated me on what's really going on here. We have

837
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: different activist groups here in Los Angeles like Street Watch,

838
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: uh LA CAN and those kinds of things, because the

839
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: criminalization of on house people were so bad that we

840
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: had to stand up and stop them from just basically

841
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: putting us out in the in the desert, which just

842
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: they're still trying to do you're getting away from society

843
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: and so we can just die. And there's so many

844
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: people with so many issues with the pandemic. They're living

845
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: out like families, like with infant kids and things like

846
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: that in the parks and stuff. It's totally very, very

847
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: very sad. So where does most of the unhouse? Is

848
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: there any park here? That's another thing I noticed. You

849
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: guys don't have a park that I've seen them. There's

850
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: one up at college I think, and from what I hear,

851
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: you're allowed to camp over there. Really, I'll have to

852
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: check that out then. I would definitely would love be

853
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: looking into that, Patricia, And I didn't get your damn

854
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: sir Philip Barry Barry okay, Barry, oh sorry. Thank you

855
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: very much for giving me your insight to it. And

856
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: I am going to be milling about a little bit more.

857
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: I'll come back and again because I got to go

858
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: to San Diego another time, and I'll interview you guys

859
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: hopefully and seek checking on and see how you guys

860
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: are doing. Thank you very much. This is THEO. Thank

861
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: you Berry. This is THEO Henderson from Weedy and House,

862
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: and I hope you all are listening and learning and

863
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: meeting in the light of understanding is our ultimate goal.

864
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: This is the old Henderson from William Howes. We have

865
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: gotten such warm, heartwarming stories as also the educational understanding

866
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: on now what it is like to be displaced out

867
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: here in Oceanside, California, and what I find. It's just

868
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: kind of the similar things what I find in Los

869
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: Angeles and Santa Barbara, San Jose, Santa Cruz. We all

870
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: have that in common. It's really tough out here and

871
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: it's not easy. It's that people make it believe. You know,

872
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: you can't have a famous actor portraying on Howes and

873
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: not knowing. It's really a circle. So I have another

874
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: guest here that he's been gracious enough to invite me

875
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: into circle. And mister Hillbilly has spoke very highly of

876
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: you and so said some some warm things about you.

877
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: So here what I do. I'm going to introduce myself.

878
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: My name is Steve. What's your name? Sir? His suits

879
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: I go by Jesus. Jesus. Thank you for taking the

880
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: time and the kindness to be willing to tell me

881
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: your experiences. So how long have you been out here?

882
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: I've been in this here about three years. How did

883
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: you end up in this area for three years I

884
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: had I had lost my apartment, my job, and me

885
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: and my exit and my kids were out here. Yeah,

886
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: and I had met a gentleman that he's like my

887
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: grandpa now, but he helped me get in RV off

888
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: the streets. Yeah. We were in a tanax right over

889
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: here buying them. Yeah. Well yes, he's definitely said, you know,

890
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: he's an eye on you, and he obviously spoke very

891
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: highly of you, because something you must have a very

892
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: good nature about yourself. So what was it like the

893
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: first night with having being out here with your family?

894
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: You said you had your kids out here as well,

895
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: So what what was that like? Like a failure? I

896
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: felt like I wasn't protecting them right that, Uh, yeah,

897
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: that I failed them, and uh, everybody around me that

898
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: saw us on the streets, instead of giving a helping hand,

899
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: they looked down on they looked down on me. You know.

900
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: It was hard. It was very hard, and yeah, I

901
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: didn't think we're gonna make it that first night, I

902
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep and it was cold. Yeah, all I was

903
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: doing was trying to keep them warm, you know. And

904
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: then thank God for Benos brother, Benos is in an

905
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: organization that would make breakfast and give us food for

906
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, and they helped us out a lot.

907
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: That's that's a life sn that the people to see

908
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: a need and wanted to make the world a better place.

909
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: So how was you able to navigate? Is your family

910
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: still out here? But it sounds sound like that. So

911
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: what what took place that you would because I obviously

912
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: usually from the interviews I have, most of the fathers

913
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: allow their families, the wife and the kids to be

914
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: taken care of first before they do So what's going

915
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: on is that's what's going on. No. I had gotten

916
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: in an RV that was broken down. I got it

917
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: for free and I worked hard on it. I had

918
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: it for seven months and I made it as homely

919
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: as possible. And when I got some money I bought

920
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: I used to really really really fix it and uh

921
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: and renovated. And the night before I renovated it, the

922
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: police came and they uh, they said they were doing

923
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: a routine check and then they called me out, called

924
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: my ex out, and uh, they were running my name

925
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: and her name. I haven't been arrested for anything since

926
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: I was sixteen. I'm thirty two, you know, but they

927
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: took my v and they took my kids. Oh my god,

928
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: that's horrible. I'm so sorry to hear that. And so

929
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: they're into with CPS. Obviously, I'm so CPS never made

930
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: it on scene, just Polis literally Yeah, well he didn't. Yeah,

931
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: he said that he didn't feel comfortable with us having

932
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: our kids. And we hadn't We hadn't been in trouble,

933
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: so we didn't know. We could have said no, but

934
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: he said, you didn't feel comfortable with us having our kids,

935
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: and so he had field evidence come with car seats

936
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: and take all three of our kids. And I didn't

937
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was wrong. This happened on a

938
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: Sunday morning. They told us to go to the police station.

939
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: We went over there. We didn't receive a ticket, not

940
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: that we didn't get charged with eything. They just basically

941
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: just took our kids. When we got to the police station.

942
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: They we didn't know the names of the officers, so

943
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: they didn't tell us, couldn't te us our kids where.

944
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: We kempt outside OPD station all Sunday night until Monday

945
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: morning until they could finally tell us where they were.

946
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: That has to be a horrible experience that here comes

947
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: or police rolls up on your Sunday, snatch your kids,

948
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: don't give any identifying the information, no paperwork, and you

949
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: don't know where your kids are. They could have been

950
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: imposter officers. They could have thrown the kids off somewhere,

951
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: and you don't know where they're their their state of buying,

952
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: or the ability. And I could imagine your ex was

953
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: just in a frightful state of as well as you.

954
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it broke her mentally. It turned her a

955
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: year without seeing her kids or in her care. It

956
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: broke her mentally. She ended up, you know, taking a

957
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: bad route to try to code, you know, me and her. No,

958
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: we no longer see each other, and I don't I

959
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: guess I don't have to be traumatic because most of

960
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: my mothers are really connected the kids. If you do that,

961
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, that messes them up. Yeah. We spent every

962
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: day that I had was about the kids, every morning,

963
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: every night. It was all about the kids, you know,

964
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: and being without them. It hurts. It hurts, man. It

965
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: was just it happened so fast, and like I said,

966
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: we went aware, you know, and it's just the depression

967
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: that hit hard. And here we are and people wondering

968
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: why we were talking about defund the police because they

969
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: had no business doing that. It's it's not a crime

970
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: to be poor. And in many of even CPS will say,

971
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, just because you're not elected the kid, you

972
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: just poor, you know, and you're caring for the kid

973
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: to car to care for. You just went and took

974
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: take the kids and then lived no information about your

975
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: own children' that's horrible. Yeah, yeah, no, the police they

976
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: treated me like I was a criminal from the beginning,

977
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: and then five months after when they found out that

978
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: we were going to the course, we were trying to

979
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: get our kids back. We were trying to stay on track,

980
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: and they found out that we were working hard. And

981
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: then they found out that the CPS worker did not

982
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: agree with the way they took our kids. They came

983
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: in and checked up on me. They actually had me

984
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: in handcuffs forty five minutes, saying they didn't know who

985
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: it was because they didn't have an ID. They were

986
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: basically like bullying me. I'm so sorry you went through that.

987
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: That's horrible. It just breaks my heart to hear this. Yeah,

988
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: but I mean I'm getting through it. You know. I

989
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: spend every day trying to help someone else, because there's

990
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: always someone else that's less fortunate. Yes, yeah, but you

991
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: know you don't deserve that. You didn't deserve that. You know,

992
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: and and and mister mister Hillbilly as well as you

993
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: guys don't deserve that. You deserve the same dignity and

994
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: respect just like people. Just because you lost you, I

995
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: don't know. Your love doesn't give you people the right.

996
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: It's a step on you that just really infuriates me

997
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: that the experience is that many of the house that

998
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: I continue to go across the La LA and as

999
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: well as the California, they experienced the same kind of indignity.

1000
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: When are we going to stop this? So what is

1001
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: the best way for us to help you? If we

1002
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: could help you? If there because I've heard that they

1003
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: may be a project room key here, but there's not

1004
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: a project room key here. It's not really well run

1005
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: well or it's like a prison. So what's your insights

1006
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: on this? Well, I mean, all I really needed is

1007
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: just a chance to go job hunting if I can,

1008
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: if I can have a place to show where I

1009
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: can go job hunting. And I've been a hard worker

1010
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: all my life, you know, it's it's very hard for

1011
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: me to find a job. I actually I was born

1012
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: out of the country, so I have to fight jobs

1013
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: that pay under the table or like you know, gardening

1014
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, but if I find

1015
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: it produce. Yes, I'm a very hard worker. I'm a

1016
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: jack of all trades. I know, guardneing, roofing, framing, electrical. Yeah,

1017
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: I understand, because you know, I know that in certain

1018
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: places like I do in Oxnart, they had a lot

1019
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: of workers that are undocumented that are working in the

1020
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: produce farms and things like that, and they have that

1021
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: same fear. They're hard workers. They put literally put food

1022
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: on everybody's tape of whether you're a Republican, nimb Democrat

1023
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: or proclaiming to be progressive. They are putting the work

1024
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: or putting in the work that so we can be

1025
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of their hard work. And the

1026
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: least we could do is offer the kindness of citizenship

1027
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: or them to make sure that they are secure just

1028
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: as we are. So is there anything else you would

1029
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: like to leave with the audience. Yeah, I just want

1030
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: people to know that they should humble themselves just because

1031
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: we're out here and we have we're less fortunate that

1032
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: we're not. They're not better than us because they can

1033
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: end up here just as fast as anybody else can. Absolutely,

1034
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: this is Steo Henderson from William House. You hear your

1035
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: many voices out here saying the same thing. So despite

1036
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: all of the nimbi's conversations or the hit pieces like

1037
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: Streets of Shame, here is the words from unhouse people

1038
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: with lived experience and have been saying the sayings from

1039
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: beginning of my episode. Let us meet in a light

1040
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: of understanding, and hopefully we can make the world a

1041
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: better place. Thank you very much for your story. Thank you,

1042
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: thank you. I know that we will show this world

1043
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: were we can gain on your host and your dream.

1044
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: You gotta get up, get him and get it to

1045
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: be through this stuff, concludes I episodeed Oceanside, California. By now,

1046
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: I hope that you've stayed with us and learned about

1047
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: the anguish and the difficulties and the pain that my

1048
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: unhoused friends have suffered through Their story should be told

1049
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: and be uplifted, and people should be moved and galvanized

1050
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: to do something about it. When I ended this episode

1051
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: in the Ocean Side, I returned back when I first

1052
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: started where the waterfall was. I couldn't help but see

1053
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: the same notices, and I can see the comparison of

1054
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 1: the same way that was done for the unhouse before

1055
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: I was ejected out of the park in Chinatown, where

1056
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: the signs littered the area. There's no difference in that.

1057
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: The one thing in common that I've noticed in all

1058
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: the other areas is they definitely vilify beyond house. They

1059
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: rely on the apathy and lethargy of house people. They

1060
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: rely on this tested tropes about unhoused people in the

1061
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: most negative of fashion. They rely on icography to demonize

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Speaker 1: unhoused people so you can not see them as human beings.

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Speaker 1: They rely on poor people poor people to vilify and

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Speaker 1: say that I broke out of this cycle of poverty,

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Speaker 1: why can't you? They use every tool in the book.

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Speaker 1: And the distressing thing is not always the rich that

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Speaker 1: haves these kinds of ideologies. It's the poor that will

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Speaker 1: be setting and working at grocery stores that will be

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Speaker 1: shutting down because they won't want to pay them hero pay,

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Speaker 1: but ready to break their neck and stomp, curb, stump

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Speaker 1: an unhouse person if they're stealing a loaf of bread

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Speaker 1: or trying to survive and have food. They will sit

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Speaker 1: in and have a joke and demean the unhoused person

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Speaker 1: if they're having mental health issues or they are suffering

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Speaker 1: some substance usage. These are also the antagonists in the

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Speaker 1: game of learning how to demonize unhouse people. Once you

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Speaker 1: have poor people looking at other poor people to demonize

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Speaker 1: the rich person can take money from both people's pockets.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, we have too much of a sad reality

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Speaker 1: when you see in these city council meetings where parents

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Speaker 1: or families are coming to demonize unhouse people as saying

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Speaker 1: the safety of their children is paramount. Considering the unhoused

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Speaker 1: families with children, they're not considered paramount. And so you

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Speaker 1: heard some of the stories are very gut riching and

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Speaker 1: hard and sad. And I hope that we move toward

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Speaker 1: action as once we meet in the light of understanding.

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Speaker 1: But I hope we move and make this a distant

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Speaker 1: memory thirty years from now. This is THEO Henderson from

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Speaker 1: weedia a house. I thank you all for listening, and

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Speaker 1: it is my hope we meet in the light of

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Speaker 1: understanding and do something about it. One thing, so today